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Speaker 1: And well Timan Lake Haig is live. It is Thursday night, December.

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Speaker 2: First, theo Ore Laura twenty twenty two. Obviously we are

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Speaker 2: not High A Top downtown Nashville, Tennessee, but Brother High

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Speaker 1: Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 2: The College Football Hall of Fame nice enough to open

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Speaker 2: their doors to us, and then they just left. So

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Speaker 2: the place is ours and we're happy to be with you. Hey,

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Speaker 2: expanding anything apparently makes it better. That's the entire theme

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Speaker 2: of tonight's show. Why not it's here college football playoff expansion,

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Speaker 2: so we will dive into that, and I'm not necessarily

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Speaker 2: going to fight it. There's nothing to fight anymore. I

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Speaker 2: am going to march on as only we can. But

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Speaker 2: I am going to give you some thoughts, and I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna one last time before we really put this issue

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Speaker 2: or topic to bed.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to explain to you not how I.

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Speaker 2: Feel, but why I feel the way I feel, and

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Speaker 2: why some of us feel or felt past tense the

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Speaker 2: way we felt. We got conference championship Saturday, and I

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Speaker 2: do not want to overshadow that.

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Speaker 1: We got a couple more games to predict. Tonight.

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Speaker 2: Also the latest on the transfer portal. It is evolving

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Speaker 2: as we speak. There have been names that have gone

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Speaker 2: into the transfer portal even since we walked in the

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Speaker 2: building a little while ago. And we're opening the mailbag

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Speaker 2: as we tend to do on the road, especially on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: So we got a really, really jam packed show tonight.

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Speaker 2: We're happy to be here in Atlanta. They're watching us

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Speaker 2: just down the road in College Park, Georgia. They're watching

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Speaker 2: us in Huntington Beach, California, Morristown, Tennessee, Spartanburg, South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: They're all tuned in.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let me pay per pop for you because I

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Speaker 2: put out the idea the other day that you gave

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Speaker 2: to me. We hit one hundred and fifty k on

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Speaker 2: the subscriber list. We're actually at like one fifty three now,

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Speaker 2: So thank you. Now in return, we're giving you what

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Speaker 2: you want. A lot of you asked for a collaboration.

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, let's do the collaboration. Who do you

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Speaker 2: want us to collaborate with? And then you flooded us

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Speaker 2: with names. There are like three or four names that

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Speaker 2: have been the most popular submissions. So I'm not quite

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Speaker 2: ready to put it to a Twitter poll, but I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: continue to give me the ideas. Someone said Jeff Tedford,

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Speaker 2: who I think is the current head coach at Presno State.

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Speaker 2: He's not one of the front runners, but I appreciate

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Speaker 2: your submission. Keep them coming. It's not like run a deadline.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get this done sometime in December. Fingers crossed. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's dive in. Take a deep breath. I don't have

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Speaker 2: the chowie with me, so I don't have any mysterious

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Speaker 1: A lot of you think I'm really mad, don't you.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you DMed me, a lot of you

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Speaker 2: texted me, and you know better because if you have

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Speaker 2: my number, I thought you were my friend and you said, boy,

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Speaker 2: I bet you're mad today. Why would I be mad

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Speaker 2: by the way I would be mad? Allegedly because the

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Speaker 2: college football playoff is expanding very quickly. Actually, the Rose

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Speaker 2: Bowl finally capitulated, and the twenty twenty four season is

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Speaker 2: going to be the first time we go to not

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Speaker 2: a six, not an eight, but a twelve team playoff field.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of you thought that this would upset

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Speaker 2: me because you know my feelings on playoff expansion, and

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Speaker 2: I've made it clear many times, and I'm not here

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Speaker 2: to rehash it. I'm not here to change anyone's mind.

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Speaker 2: All that's irrelevant now because we know the future. I

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Speaker 2: was talking to Barrettsileia earlier today. He has kind of

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Speaker 2: now that this is it moving forward, we got to

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Speaker 2: make the best of it. You know, you still want

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Speaker 2: what's best for the sport. I do, I always have.

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Speaker 2: But I did want to just make a couple of

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Speaker 2: But here's the first thing I want to ask, maybe

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Speaker 2: rhetorical because I've talked to you a lot about this already,

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Speaker 2: I think we had it better back before we had

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Speaker 1: And I've asked that.

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Speaker 2: Anytime I'm in a debate eat about playoff expansion, anytime

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Speaker 2: and I say, I think I can articulate your point

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Speaker 2: And I have found not so surprisingly that not many

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Speaker 2: of you can. Some of you can, then you just

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Speaker 1: But I get a lot of you, I mean, especially

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Speaker 2: Said, well, you just must not love college football. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I must not love college that's probably that's probably you

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Speaker 2: indictments that I get hurled my way is, well, you

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Speaker 2: just must not want more football. How can more of

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Speaker 2: it to currency? How can printing more money be a

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Speaker 2: then you understand just endlessly printing more of it doesn't

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Speaker 1: That's the way I've always looked at it.

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Speaker 2: We can differ in our opinion, and then I have

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Speaker 2: people who really truly just don't think people like me

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Speaker 2: understand how expansion of the playoff will give us more

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Speaker 2: meaningful games. Obviously, the logic there, and we're about to

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Speaker 2: Michigan meant a lot last week. But now we can

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Speaker 2: I don't understand that, and I do. I understand totally

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Speaker 2: and I've just really never been able to do it.

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Speaker 2: Able to convince enough I guess that what you're trading

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Speaker 2: That really was the crux of our disagreement. Do you

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Speaker 2: But I got tossed a few other things today and

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Speaker 2: I noticed it from like five or six different people,

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Speaker 2: So apparently it was this major talking point going around

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Speaker 1: I've heard all that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's old hat, but like five different times today

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Speaker 2: I had people ask me, why do you think this

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Speaker 2: college football. That's a different line of questioning. That's why

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Speaker 2: the way they present that. They're exactly right in the

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Speaker 2: way they articulated it. The NCAA Tournament is the foundation

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Speaker 2: for college basketball. College basketball is a post season sport,

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Speaker 2: and there is a massive dichotomy between what college football

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Speaker 2: has been different about college football is post to every

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Speaker 2: need to hammer that into oblivion and make it look

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Speaker 2: like everything else.

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Speaker 1: And you got your way. I'll admit that you got

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Speaker 2: I don't ever want to see college football become a

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Speaker 2: about things that are irrelevant at this point. Boy, did

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Speaker 2: you notice the outpouring of support from all the college

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Speaker 2: football players today at the announcement of college football playoff expansion? No,

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Speaker 2: They should be happy. Truthfully, I should be happy because

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Speaker 2: with them. All of us should be happy. But I

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Speaker 2: You know what I spent today doing. I spent today

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Speaker 2: talking to players off the record, because here's what I know.

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Speaker 2: Two truths right now, in the world of college football.

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Speaker 2: A ton of players hate this, and hardly any of

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Speaker 2: them will admit it to you publicly, because that's a

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Speaker 2: That's akin to them admitting they're not all in. Whether

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Speaker 2: I'm in a house with Todd Gurley earlier today doing

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Speaker 2: something for a client of ours, Verbo, and this news

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Speaker 2: breaks and Todd Gurley sitting there, tenth overall draft pick

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Speaker 2: just happened. He said what happened? And I explained the

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Speaker 2: format to him. What do you think? He said?

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Speaker 1: You think?

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Speaker 2: He said, boor I wish that was around.

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Speaker 1: When I was a player.

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Speaker 2: Boy, that's gonna make college football more exciting. No, this

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Speaker 2: is a former player that looked me dead in the

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Speaker 2: that if I were college football player. And let me

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Speaker 2: tell you why you love college football. I love college football.

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Speaker 2: We don't play it. You don't really put your body

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Speaker 2: to go. These dudes play so you can sit there

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Speaker 2: So I am going to lay the points. I'll show

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Speaker 2: the rest of you. If Kansas State wins comfortably here.

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Speaker 2: But bottom line is TCU has earned the right, at

436
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: least in my mind, they've earned the right. And I

437
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Speaker 2: think I'm gonna say something and we're gonna move on.

438
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 2: Because I don't really say this very often because I

439
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: don't traffic in this sort of thing, But I think

440
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 2: this is true. If this were, let's say, a Florida

441
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 2: state logo instead of a Hornfrog logo, If this were

442
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Speaker 2: a Michigan logo and everything else was the same, If

443
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Speaker 2: this was a Texas logo, if this was an Oklahoma logo,

444
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Speaker 2: do you honestly think we would be talking about the

445
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 2: different scenarios with which that team could be left out? No,

446
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 2: that'd actually be probably ranked ahead of either Georgia or

447
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 2: Michigan right now. So I've never done it on air,

448
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 2: but there it is. There's the horn Frog sign. Next up,

449
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 2: we got a jet over private jet now just regional jet.

450
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Speaker 2: We gotta hop over to Charlotte, and we got to

451
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Speaker 2: talk about the ACC Championship game. Someone asked me earlier there,

452
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 2: you're gonna watch the ACC Championship gip. Yes, yes, I'm

453
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Speaker 2: gonna watch the ACC Championship game. Is it going to

454
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: be something that I instantly order a copy of and

455
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Speaker 2: distribute to fifty of my closest friends.

456
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Speaker 1: Probably not, but let's talk about it.

457
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Speaker 2: North Carolina Clemson Saturday eight Eastern on ABC. Clemson currently

458
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: a seven and a half point favorite. Clemson has played

459
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Speaker 2: for their seventh ACC title in the past eight years,

460
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 2: and of course last year's the exception. They didn't even

461
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Speaker 2: play for the title, and North Carolina's nine and three.

462
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Speaker 2: So let me ask you if we were to we

463
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Speaker 2: we meet, we rewind to July, and I just give

464
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Speaker 2: you the following statements. Clemson's gonna play for the ACC Championship.

465
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Speaker 2: They're gonna at least win double digit games. North Carolina

466
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Speaker 2: is gonna play for the ACC Championship.

467
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Speaker 1: What would you have thought?

468
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Speaker 2: You think Clemson probably got back to normal, although you

469
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be completely sold on it because you probably don't

470
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Speaker 2: respect the ACC stream schedule. But at the very least,

471
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Speaker 2: if I told you North Carolina's playing for the ACC Championship.

472
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Speaker 2: We did a segment on them in the in the

473
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Speaker 2: August timeframe, and I said, hey, I think we were

474
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Speaker 2: a year or too early on them. I think they

475
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Speaker 2: may be better this year than they were last year

476
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: turned out that was the case. You would have thought

477
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: if I Crystal baled it and I told you, hey,

478
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 2: North Carolina is going to Charlotte, you would have thought.

479
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: It's been a magnificent season. It's been a magic carpet

480
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: ride for them. Everyone must be ecstatic. And yet they

481
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: lost last week, both of them did, and the energy

482
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: around the program is kind of all right, yes, we're

483
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Speaker 2: going to We're going to Charlotte.

484
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Speaker 1: Okay, But in this college.

485
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Speaker 2: Football playoff world and whence we live, it's being called

486
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Speaker 2: a meaningless game. Don't tell the players that. Don't tell

487
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: me that, because it's not that. But that's what the

488
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 2: streets are saying about the ACC championship game, thirty one

489
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Speaker 2: to thirty. Last week, Clemson goes down, thirty to twenty seven.

490
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: North Carolina goes down. So here's what I want to know.

491
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Speaker 2: Let's just start with the Tigers. Let's start with the

492
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: formerly defending champions of this conference. Is there a.

493
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Speaker 1: Killer instinct game?

494
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: They haven't had it for the wire to wire duration

495
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: of the season, but do they have it in them?

496
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Do they have that Clemson game,

497
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 2: the one where you turn it on and you go Okay,

498
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: that's Clemson. Now it's twenty seven to three. Like when

499
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: they played NC State earlier this year. I thought that

500
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: was when they looked the most like that team, and

501
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: it wasn't a fifty two to ten massacre. But North

502
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: Carolina State never had a shot in that game. It

503
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: was a true Boa constrictor special and I hadn't seen

504
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 2: much of that Clemson. I certainly didn't see him last week.

505
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 2: I didn't see him against Notre Dame. Well, this is

506
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Speaker 2: the next biggest game they get to play, and so

507
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: do you see that. The other thing if you do

508
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: see that Clemson as it relates to North Carolina, is

509
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Speaker 2: that Clemson has a crow bar in their hand, and yeah,

510
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: they can beat you with it, or really, what they

511
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: can do to your offense is just toss it in

512
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: the spokes and your bicycle comes to a grinding halt

513
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: and you fly over the handlebars. Your face looks like

514
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Speaker 2: street pizza the end. You just get shut down. North

515
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 2: Carolina had that happen to him. North Carolina couldn't run

516
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: the ball, timing and rhythm disrupted.

517
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Speaker 1: They just drop eight.

518
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: On you all afternoon, all evening, all night, and you

519
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: can't throw the ball to save your life. So Drake

520
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: May is the most important player in this game quarterback

521
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: there for North Carolina.

522
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: He needs to have his JJ McCarthy game.

523
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: He needs to do to Clemson what JJ did to

524
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Speaker 2: Ohio State last week.

525
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Speaker 1: It doesn't have.

526
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Speaker 2: To be fifteen or twenty throws. It needs to be

527
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: a few explosives, and you need to draw Clemson in

528
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Speaker 2: in order to complete those explosives. But what can't happen

529
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: here is they can't get shut down on the ground.

530
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Speaker 2: And right now, you look at North Carolina's metrics, they're

531
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Speaker 2: probably average at best. They're probably floating in the mid

532
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 2: sixties or so in terms of rushing statistics, depending on

533
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Speaker 2: which stack category you want to break down. You can't

534
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Speaker 2: have that because if you play to that standard and

535
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 2: nothing more, Clemson will shut you down. And as I said,

536
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: they'll drop eight and they'll do exactly to you what

537
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Speaker 2: they did to North Carolina State, and it will be

538
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: virtually impossible for you to find the end zone. You

539
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 2: have got to hit explosives. You gotta do it, and

540
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: that has to come from being able to run the ball.

541
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Speaker 2: What worries me is if you're looking at North Carolina schedule,

542
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: right now, and I'm trying to sell myself on this upset.

543
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: I want teams peaking. I want teams playing their best

544
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 2: ball this time of year. I don't want them having

545
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: lost to Georgia Tech and NC State to close the

546
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: season and then O, well, consolation prize, you still get

547
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: to go to Charlotte. That's why the fan base is

548
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: kind of lukewarm towards this game. Now.

549
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: Having said that, if you want me to sell you,

550
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: and you want.

551
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: Me to use a recent historical data point, might I

552
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: remind you the Florida Gators sucked water through a garden hose,

553
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: or South Carolina did against Florida, they could not get

554
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Speaker 2: in the end zone.

555
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: Thirty eight to six was the final, and then.

556
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 2: They proceeded to dispose of two top ten teams the

557
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: next two weeks in Tennessee and Clemson.

558
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: So this season has shown us anything can happen.

559
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: There's a reason those are exceptions to the rule, though

560
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: it's very hard for that to happen. I will say this, though,

561
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: mac Brown, when you've put him in the underdog role

562
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: this year, he is three and oh against the spread.

563
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 2: More importantly, he's three and oh straight up and motivation

564
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: is certainly not an issue here.

565
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: But Clemson.

566
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: Look, here's where I start to make the pick. They're

567
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: favored by seven and a half. Our model has Clemson

568
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: all the way up at minus ten. To be fair,

569
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: it is I think overvalued Clemson to a degree this year.

570
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 2: But I also worry that if that organization, if that

571
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 2: program has sort of recalibrated their goals and they know

572
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: we can't go to the playoff, we can't win a title.

573
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: What we can do then is use all that energy

574
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: and just unload it in this game. I think you'll

575
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: get the best of Clemson. I certainly think they'll be

576
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: motivated coming off of what they did and didn't do

577
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: last week. I thought they'd cover last week and they lost.

578
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: I'll go right back to the well. I think they're

579
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: gonna win, and I'm gonna lay the seven and a half.

580
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna cover. This is certainly not a

581
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: best bet. This is not anything that I will be

582
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: putting my own shekels on. But if I have to

583
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Speaker 2: make a pick, and the rules of the show that

584
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: I do, I am going to go with them. All right,

585
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: let's dive into the mailbag. I appreciate you guys, being

586
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: tuned in. If you're tuned in live, several thousand of

587
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: you are, by the way, please just hit that thumbs

588
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: up button. Four h nine is a poverty number. We

589
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: should have way more than four hundred and nine likes.

590
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: If not me, do it for big game. Dame please.

591
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: Standing over there with his hands on his hips looks distraught.

592
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: So I had a question earlier today from one of

593
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: our esteemed viewers, and it's a really good one, and

594
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 2: I think it's been the theme of the year, and

595
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: it was about being one play away. How many teams,

596
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: if we're looking at the college football playoff rankings right now,

597
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: are one play away.

598
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: Jack was the one who sent it to us.

599
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: He said, what teams do you think We're just a

600
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: couple of plays away from having a very different season

601
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: from Oxford Mississippi. Hey, I got four of them that

602
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: just come to the top of my mind immediately. What

603
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: if I went back to the beginning of the year

604
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: and I changed let's say the last play of that

605
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: LSU Florida State game.

606
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it ended up being a close game.

607
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: Let's just say LSU, even with all of their flaws,

608
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: that evening they're in New Orleans, let's say they win

609
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: that game. I don't know that anything else would have

610
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: changed the rest of the year. I do know if

611
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: I kept everything about the rest of the year the same. Boy,

612
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: they go into college station last week knowing, not only

613
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: do we potentially have a playoff spot on the line,

614
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: we had a prime playoff spot on the line, and

615
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: it's not a conference game I'm changing. So presumably they

616
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: still win the conference, or they still win the division,

617
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: they go to the conference title game. I just would

618
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: love to see. Now, here's the backlash. Here's what could

619
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: have happened had they won that game. They could have

620
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: gotten too full of themselves. They could have been upset

621
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks later. I don't know how it

622
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: would have played out, but I'd be very interested to

623
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: see now because that did play out Florida State's way.

624
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about the Knowles yet, but

625
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes, I'm going to talk about them.

626
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: It directly impacts Mike Norvell in company. How about Alabama?

627
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: This is basically the theme of this entire question is Alabama.

628
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: How do you change one team's fortunes? Will change one player,

629
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: change two plays and since Jack gave me the ability

630
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: to change two. Clearly, Let's go back to Knoxville, third

631
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: Saturday in October. We're standing there and we're watching a

632
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: field goal go in. But before, what do we have

633
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: to watch? We had to watch an Alabama field goal

634
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: not go in. Now, look, you're talking to a guy

635
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: here who has no trouble making kicks, but Alabama makescu

636
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: If you don't know what I'm talking about, you just

637
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: need to check the socials at lad kick Josh. We

638
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: had some fun behind us before the show. Alabama misses

639
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: a field goal. If they make the field goal, Tennessee's

640
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: got twenty some odd seconds left. They're probably not driving

641
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: the field. I say probably because I saw what they

642
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: were able to do. Anyway, Obama's an undefeated team at

643
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: that point. They've got room for a loss. They're probably

644
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: in the playoff. But even if I keep that the

645
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: same and I just have LSU not convert that two

646
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: point conversion against Bama, Bama's still in the playoff, or

647
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: Bama's in Atlanta. That's what they are. They're in Atlanta.

648
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: Now Here would be a fun conversation what happens if

649
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: we got a one loss Bama and They're about to

650
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: play Georgia, and if Georgia wins, that makes them a

651
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: two loss Bama. How we handling them? Is it different

652
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: because they played.

653
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: In a conference championship game?

654
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Is it different because their second loss came to the

655
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: number one team in the country. Is it different?

656
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

657
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: I think there would be a lot of hypocrisy out there,

658
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: safe to say, people arguing for Obama, and it would

659
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: probably come from the same camp of folks who would

660
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: probably be arguing against TCU if they lose Saturday. Now,

661
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: I want to get back to Florida State. I look

662
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: at when they lost to Clemson. Don't even change that game,

663
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: but I look at the next week Clemson loss, and

664
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: then it was the week before. Actually, so the week

665
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: before Florida State played Clemson, they played in North Carolina

666
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: State and down in the.

667
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: Twenty I think twenty two to twenty one.

668
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: Yard line area Travis throws a pit and s ballgame,

669
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: nineteen to seventeen. North Carolina State wins, and at the time,

670
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: you didn't think anything of it. It was their second

671
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: consecutive loss. They still got a long way to go,

672
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: So you're thinking to yourself, Florida State maybe they'll.

673
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: Still make a bowl game.

674
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 2: No, they after the Clemson game didn't lose again, one,

675
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: two three, They ran off five in a row. So

676
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: if I shave one loss off there again, I understand

677
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: you can't change one thing in life and keep everything

678
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: that followed it the same. But just for argument's sake,

679
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: how different does that look? Cause that's shaving away a

680
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: conference loss too. Could it have impacted the way they

681
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: played against Clemson next week? I don't know, but I

682
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: do know that it would have made that ACC at

683
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: least a division over there of that ACC playoff race

684
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: and conference race a whole lot more fun. The last

685
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: one that I wanted to touch on is Texas Texas.

686
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: They lost thirty seven to thirty four to Texas Tech,

687
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: and that was with Hudson Card who is now the

688
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: transfer portal at quarterback, and that was after Quinnyewers had

689
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: gone down, and so they lost.

690
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: To Texas Tech.

691
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: But they led thirty one to seventeen, and that's a

692
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: game I thought was over and Texas Tech did everything

693
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: necessary to hang around in nothing more until it was

694
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: time to go win, and in overtime they went and

695
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: won it. If I changed Texas's schedule here. You look,

696
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: they had to lost to Bama by one point, not

697
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: a big deal. If they beat Texas Tech and we

698
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: keep everything else the same, they get in the back

699
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: half of that season, and look, even if they lose

700
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: to Oklahoma State, even if they lose to TCU, even

701
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: if I kept everything else the same, that changes the

702
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: entire complexion of the Big Twelve championship picture. Even as

703
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: it was, guys, Texas was still alive last week, Texas

704
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: was still in it. They needed help. Obviously, they didn't

705
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: control their own destiny. So LSU Bama FSU Texas. Truthfully,

706
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: I could I could go on and on and on

707
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: for another twenty or so minutes about this segment, but

708
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: I'm really hungry, so I'm not.

709
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: Gonna do that.

710
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, there are a lot of teams this year,

711
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: because I don't think that there's been separation. Like at

712
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, I talked to you when

713
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: I was showing you the JPE pole, I showed you

714
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: the gap odds making wise, I showed you how wide

715
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: the numeric gap was between one and two and then

716
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: the rest of the field. It still a gap, obviously,

717
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: but it really really shrunk and I just don't think

718
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: that we've had an elite team.

719
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: We do not have a team.

720
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: This year with the kind of data profile of twenty

721
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: nineteen LSU or twenty twenty Alabama.

722
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: We don't have that.

723
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: I would favor those teams by ten points over everyone

724
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: in the field this year, and that includes Georgia. Georgia's

725
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: a very good defensive team. Georgia last year was a

726
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: really good defensive team. And you saw what Bama did

727
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: to him across the street when they had their offensive weapons.

728
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: And that team the year before was better than this

729
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: Bama team last year.

730
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Anyway, I say all.

731
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: That to say, you can't change plays. That's why we

732
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: play the games on the field and not on paper.

733
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: Next question, This one's going to be fun because we

734
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 2: are going to have some strong opinions on this one.

735
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: The comments section to hit us up. He said, if

736
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: Ohio State somehow gets in, does their freeze point have

737
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: them enough to then win a national championship? Now, the

738
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: freeze point that is trademarked nomenclature for Lake Cake. It

739
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: essentially means are you good enough? Do you meet the

740
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: minimum baseline requirements that it takes for a team to

741
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: be able to win a title. Absolutely, Ohio State meets it.

742
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: And I think it would shock some of you to

743
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: know that if those two teams you watched in Columbus

744
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: last week, Michigan and Ohio State, you know, if they

745
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: played right here on this little neutral field we're on,

746
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: you know who'd be favored.

747
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: It didn't Michigan.

748
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: Now would be very small spread, but it didn't Michigan.

749
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: And it reminds me speaking of the SEC Championship game

750
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: last year. Reminds me when we saw Bama Georgia and

751
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: you saw Bama run them out of the building. You

752
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: saw the same two teams play a month later. Who

753
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: was favored? It was Georgia favored again, and a lot

754
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: of people said, how can this be? Well, how'd that

755
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: game turn out? And so I'm not saying Ohio State

756
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: would beat Michigan in the rematch. I'm not saying they would,

757
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: and I'm saying, yeah, I think it'd be a very

758
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: competitive game. I think it would be at the very

759
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: least of tight point spread. Now the game would be

760
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 2: what the game is. So the short answer is yes,

761
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: here would be my question. This is not far away

762
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: from happening. We only need USC to lose in order

763
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: for this to happen theoretically, what would the mentality of

764
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 2: Ohio State be. I was listening to our buddy Zax

765
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: Smith talk about this the other day. I mean, he

766
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: coached there, knows a bunch of players there, still knows

767
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: guys on that staff, and I think even he was

768
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: struggling to understand if they do get in the playoff, like,

769
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: what are we getting from them? Where are they checked out?

770
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: Are they able to check back in? CJ. Stroud? You know,

771
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 2: what kind of performance do you get from him? Which

772
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: Ohio State do we get? Because right now, you know

773
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: the team that would be slightly favored against Michigan, the

774
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: team that would be favored or at least expected to

775
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: fight Michigan, it's an all in Ohio State team. Would

776
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: we get that? I don't know how did that loss

777
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: impact them? Pretty confidently for past Ohio State teams that

778
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: if you offered them, if you dangled that piece of

779
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: red meat on the end of a fishing line, Hey,

780
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: you just lost to Michigan, but we're going to give

781
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: you another shot at it, you wouldn't even get the

782
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: sentence out of your mouth before forty seven of them

783
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: just jumped up and took it from you. Is this

784
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: team like that? Does this team have that kind of

785
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: instinct about it? I don't know, and I think a

786
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: lot of our viewers in Buckeye Lander kind of feeling

787
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: the same way. I don't know. I don't really know

788
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: if we have that.

789
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: And you know what history has shown us.

790
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: If you're still asking that question about your team by December,

791
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: they don't have it. So if they still get in,

792
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: they get a chance to prove you wrong. Obviously, But

793
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: here's the flip side of that. There's always a flip side,

794
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: Memo said, And the flip side is what if they

795
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: get in and get beat by thirty against Michigan? What

796
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: if they got another shot? You talk about going from

797
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: being humbled to being castrated as a program, you get

798
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: in again and then they do it to you. It's

799
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: like basically when he saw a Utah and Oregon play

800
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: last year and Utah just drug him like thirty eight

801
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: to ten. But then three weeks later, voila. Oregon got

802
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: a chance at redemption. They're gonna play Utah in the

803
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: PAC twelve Championship game. Splattered and it was every bit

804
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: as bad and every bit as physical a mismatch as

805
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: it was the first time. That's Oregon, Utah. If that

806
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: happened in the Ohio State Michigan rivalry, you're talking about

807
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: folks going into a mental and psychological shell minimum until July.

808
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: I would not see or hear from some of you

809
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: until fall camp open next year. So yeah, it's great

810
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: for you to get another shot.

811
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: Careful what you wish for.

812
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: I guess I think some of you feel that way. Actually,

813
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: let's keep it moving here. Out of conference schedule, We've

814
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: got a couple more here. I got one about Dion

815
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: coming up and as of airtime tonight, we're live. But

816
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he's taken a job anywhere. How about

817
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: this out of conference schedule question, because this is one

818
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 2: that I made sure to go in the show because

819
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: of the news that came out today. So the news

820
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: about college footballlayoff expansion comes out today, and Ethan asked,

821
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: with that twelve team playoff on the horizon, will more

822
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: teams search for tougher non conference opponents with more breathing

823
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: space or do you think we'll continue to see a

824
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 2: thin slate of Power five matchups for the future. From

825
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: Palm Desert California hashtag Big ten Country. I see what

826
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: you did there, buddy. Yeah, I think this will happen.

827
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: So I've always been clear with you guys how I

828
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: feel about the playoff. But I've also told you, despite

829
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: me not liking it, I understand that there are certain

830
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: positives to college football playoff expansion. It's not all bad,

831
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: and part of the good that we can take from this,

832
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 2: even if you feel the way I do, is yeah,

833
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: teams are gonna be fearless to schedule up now that

834
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: you know you can lose a quarter of your games,

835
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: why not schedule up? And so that will give us

836
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: better regular season matchups, and that is a very good thing.

837
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 2: I don't know that those regular season matchups then mean

838
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: nearly as much as they used to because they have

839
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: a giant safety net built under them, but at the

840
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: very least we'll get the games.

841
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: Now here's what I would suggest.

842
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't argue it. I would say, now that you

843
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: have given the entire sport and the understanding that there

844
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: are so many more spots at the postseason table to

845
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: go around, there should be no excuse for the SEC

846
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: playing FCS competition. Should be no excuse for it there

847
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: should be no excuse for anyone refusing to schedule up,

848
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: or let me rephrase it. If you do, it's your right,

849
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: but you've got to see them get punished.

850
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: Especially in this new playoff era.

851
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: You've got to put a special emphasis if you're the

852
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: playoff committee, on disproportionately punishing folks who don't schedule up

853
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 2: because there's no reason not to anymore. And I almost

854
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: wonder whereas this has been handled at the university level

855
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: to this point, For the last like five million years,

856
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: college football schedules have been handled in house. I almost

857
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: wonder if the conferences don't get together and say, hey,

858
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: since we've already got this much money on the line,

859
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: and since we've already got this big fat playoff at

860
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: the end of the year, and there's no reason to

861
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: be scheduling scared anymore, let's take it out of their hands. Okay,

862
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: Let's not only if I'm the Big ten. Let's not

863
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: only have me setting your conference schedule. Let me also

864
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: take it upon myself for you Michigan State to go

865
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: call Auburn. Let me take it upon myself for you

866
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: Michigan to go call Texas. You know, let me make

867
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Speaker 2: sure that we're fulfilling our end of the bargain. Heus,

868
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: ma'am the other part of this. And I know that

869
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: you've been told this group of people doesn't matter anymore.

870
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: There's this group of people we call them fans, and

871
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: I still think they kind of matter. And what you

872
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: ask them to do is you ask them to pay

873
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: a lot of money to attend your games. Georgia's schedule,

874
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: since they're right down the road, is atrocious. Next year.

875
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: It's not all their fault. They had an out of

876
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: conference opponent that the conference slammed the door on. I

877
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: think it was Oklahoma. I think Greg Snaki said no,

878
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: you're not playing that anymore. So they had to go

879
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: schedule a roast beef tech in lieu of that. But

880
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: you're paying season ticket prices for an inferior product, and

881
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: so in the future, man, you got to at least

882
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: get the bang for your butt, cause they're asking you

883
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: if your team goes to the playoff, they're asking you theoretically,

884
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 2: pay for season tickets, check and all that goes along

885
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: with that, Pay for conference championship tickets, check, pay for

886
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 2: a what would it be a quarter final matchup, then

887
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: pay for a semi final matchup then pay for national championship?

888
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: You just how much money did you just spend? Like

889
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: this is not even realistic. I understand it. We will

890
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: have fully corporatized the crowd structure when it comes to

891
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: this playoff. So I'm not even gonna beat that Pinotta.

892
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: It's already on the ground over here, breathing its last breath.

893
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, boy, you give me a lot

894
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: better regular season games, and I think they will. I

895
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: think that will happen. All right, last question here tonight,

896
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: and then we got a roll you guys being tuned in.

897
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: We've got a good crowd. Tonight, Garrett hit us up.

898
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: He says, if Prime leaves Jackson State, is he quitting

899
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: before the goals are met?

900
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: We're talking about Dion Sanders here.

901
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: Garrett said he promised to bring more exposure to HBCUs

902
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: after flipping Travis Hunter. But I just saw those Florida

903
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: FSU game viewer numbers. Does the spotlight dim over historically

904
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: black colleges? Again, if Dion Sanders leaves, nothing's official here.

905
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: It looks for all the world like Dion Sanders is

906
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: probably going to be on the move. I would expect

907
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: that to happen at some point this weekend. If it

908
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: does happen, Colorado's thought to be the betting favorite. I

909
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: have no inside information on that, so let's just say

910
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: for argument sake, he does. Man. I think he's absolutely

911
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: fulfilled his promise tenfold. Actually, I would simply ask you, Garrett,

912
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: maybe it was a short sample size, but how much

913
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 2: have you taught Jackson State football this year? And once

914
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: you answer that question, including this very segment on this show,

915
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: which we otherwise wouldn't have done, ask yourself how much

916
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: have you talked about him in the past. I remember

917
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: so vividly we were down in Fort Lauderdale for our

918
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: National Signing Day show, the early Signing Day, that's the

919
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 2: one where A and M went crazy, and it got

920
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: to be about one o'clock.

921
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: We have been on the air since nine am.

922
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: It got to be about one o'clock in the afternoon,

923
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: and that's when he pulled Travis Hunter. That's when Dion

924
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 2: shocked the world literally and pulled Travis Hunter.

925
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: It got to be one pm.

926
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: A and M is in route to locking up the

927
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: highest rated recruiting class in twenty four to seven sports history,

928
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: and by one PM we had talked more Jackson State

929
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: than we had Texas, A and M. And I said

930
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: that to someone in the break room when we were

931
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: taking a little break, and they said, Wow, it was

932
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: like it hadn't dawned on anyone. And that was the

933
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: moment in time I knew that guy had changed the

934
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Speaker 2: game for HBCUs, and not only that, he had changed

935
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: the game for how they get talked about and how

936
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Speaker 2: we cover him. So I would say he's already fulfilled

937
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: on that promise. And I would also argue this, it's

938
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: because Dion Sanders walks out the door doesn't mean he

939
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: didn't open the door for five, ten, fifteen more folks

940
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: like him to come in and make similar impacts.

941
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: I really believe, and.

942
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: I've had this validated.

943
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: I've had people tell me.

944
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: I really believe there are people who are ready to

945
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: get in the coaching game now.

946
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: That five years ago weren't entertaining the thought.

947
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: But the thing about it is a leader stepped up,

948
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: Deon Sanders stepped up and he said, hey, I think

949
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: I can do this, and he did it, and now

950
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 2: apparently he's going to go do it at a higher level.

951
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 2: If the rumors are true, who steps in, Who steps

952
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: in that otherwise wouldn't have stepped in. How many doors

953
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: did Deon Sanders open for folks? And I'm not just

954
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: talking about at the HBCU level. What he's about to

955
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: go do, mark my words, is going to open the

956
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: door for some what you would call at the time

957
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: unconventional candidates, unconventional hires to get a shot. That's the

958
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: promise that he's fulfilling. So it's a lot bigger, respectfully

959
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: than just what can he do for Jackson State. It's

960
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: what he's doing for people, and it's what he's doing

961
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: for the sport of football overall. That's the way it

962
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: should be. That's the way I think he wants it,

963
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: and that's the way it has been. All Right, we

964
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: got to get out of here. I appreciate you guys, sincerely.

965
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: We're in Atlanta.

966
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: Obviously, we'll be across the street at the SEC Championship

967
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: game Saturday. Remember, remember there's a lot going on right now.

968
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: You gotta be following on the socials at late kick

969
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: Josh Bonus coverage. You get to see me kick a

970
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: field goal from earlier. But real talk, coaching changes are happening,

971
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: transfer portals happening at late kick Josh. That's where you

972
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: can find me. Appreciate you guys so much. We'll be

973
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: back in Nashville Sunday night. Enjoy the games this weekend.

974
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: They do mean something.

975
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Speaker 1: Enjoy them.

976
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Speaker 2: Take care, We'll see you Sunday Gables