WEBVTT - The Progressive Way Failed (11/02)

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM 640. You're listening to the John Kobelt Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>want to see video. Let's talk with Robert Gutierrez, president

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<v Speaker 1>of the California Taxpayers Association. Prop 42, we recommended a yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So does Gutierrez and the California Taxpayers Association. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is about keeping the grubby hands of the California government

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<v Speaker 1>out of your retirement savings. You see what they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do to billionaires. Eventually, they're going to spread that

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<v Speaker 1>philosophy to everybody. And that billionaire tax scheme is just

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<v Speaker 1>to set a precedent. Let's get Robert on. How are you, Robert? Hi, John.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. Talk about the dangers of Prop 42 because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, most people really don't have the time

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<v Speaker 1>to pay attention to what's going on here and what

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<v Speaker 1>the real forces are out there. And Prop 42 is

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<v Speaker 1>to provide them protection, correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. This is a simple measure. California Taxes Association supports

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<v Speaker 2>Prop 42 because it protects Californians' hard-earned savings, retirement funds,

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<v Speaker 2>and Californians already pay income tax on the money that

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<v Speaker 2>they earn, and we don't think you should have to

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<v Speaker 2>pay twice.

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<v Speaker 1>So this would be things like your 401k accounts and

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<v Speaker 1>your IRAs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. 401Ks, retirement, pensions. If you're a public employee, small

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<v Speaker 2>businesses are protected. So it's really about all the savings

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<v Speaker 2>and personal property that everyone spends a lifetime saving up for.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, the Constitution allows for the politicians to

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<v Speaker 1>go after all those accounts if they want?

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing in the Constitution to stop the legislature or

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<v Speaker 2>special interests from coming to taxpayers and saying, hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>want to go after 401ks or life savings or other

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<v Speaker 2>personal property like furniture or whatever else is in your house.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing to stop the legislature from doing it, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've tried five times in the past over the last

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<v Speaker 2>half decade or so.

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<v Speaker 1>How have they tried? I mean, is this something they've

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<v Speaker 1>tried with a– With propositions? Because I would think they

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<v Speaker 1>can pass whatever they want in the legislature.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>They've introduced legislation, but saner minds have prevailed, and they

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<v Speaker 2>did not go forward with that. So we think regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of what happens this election cycle, we know the legislature

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<v Speaker 2>is going to come back. They're going to look at

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<v Speaker 2>creative new ways to tax people. And 401ks, pensions, life savings,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all vulnerable and at risk for the legislature to

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<v Speaker 2>come and potentially tax.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because they don't fear getting voted out of office,

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<v Speaker 1>their arrogance increases every year. And every year they do

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<v Speaker 1>have dozens of new tax ideas. So eventually this will

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<v Speaker 1>go through. Even if they hold back their impulse this year,

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<v Speaker 1>next year, there's always a greater chance it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. And I think, you know, anybody in California knows

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<v Speaker 2>the state's already way too expensive. I think what we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing with Prop 42 is we're saying, look, taxpayers need stable,

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<v Speaker 2>predictable rules so you can plan and you can save

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<v Speaker 2>with some sort of certainty.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So this will protect 401k plans, IRAs, pensions,

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<v Speaker 1>personal savings account, no new taxes from the state. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a constitutional amendment that prohibits it, right?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a constitutional prohibition on taxes on your assets. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of unions that would be affected,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have their pension benefits protected by this proposition. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of broad support. Caltech supports Prop 42.

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<v Speaker 2>We also got the professional firefighters, peace officers, California Small

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<v Speaker 2>Business Association, veterans. So it's a very broad group of

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<v Speaker 2>folks that are supporting this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this came out of realizing what Prop 40

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<v Speaker 1>is about because while it starts by confiscating the billionaire's money,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually they'll be expanding that to– well, they can expand

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<v Speaker 1>it to everybody in the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>This money has already been taxed. It's already been taxed

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<v Speaker 1>before it was put in these accounts, and they want

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<v Speaker 1>to tax it a second time, and that's just– that's unconscionable.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yes on 42 gives you constitutional protection against the

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<v Speaker 1>legislature and the governor coming in and taking the money,

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<v Speaker 1>taxing the money in your 401k, IRA and pensions and

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<v Speaker 1>other retirement and savings accounts. Robert Gutierrez, thank you very

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 1>President of the California Taxpayers Association. A lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>to fear. They they they can pass. And what they'll

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<v Speaker 1>do is they'll do it, you know, during the dead season,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the summertime when you're not paying attention late on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday night. It never gets any media coverage. And

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<v Speaker 1>you'll just find out in the next tax year. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got some kind of crazy tax now in your 401k.

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<v Speaker 1>And and good luck when you start withdrawing money. They're

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<v Speaker 1>about confiscation. and do not believe any of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>they give for the confiscation. It is about taking the

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<v Speaker 1>money and enriching their massive bureaucracy, their friends, their relatives,

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<v Speaker 1>the nonprofits, the agencies. That's the only purpose for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you think high-speed rail, you think the homeless industry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all you need to know. All you got to

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<v Speaker 1>think is homeless, high-speed rail. That's the template. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>template for all of this.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to John Kobelt on demand from KFI AM 640.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you last week. Oh, the driving tax with

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<v Speaker 1>Javier Becerra. Javier Becerra has a driving tax, a mileage tax.

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<v Speaker 1>Every mile you drive, that might be 10 cents. which

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<v Speaker 1>means it'll cost you a thousand dollars a year. And

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<v Speaker 1>it'll cost your spouse a thousand dollars a year. If

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<v Speaker 1>you drive 10,000 miles and maybe it'll be 8 cents,

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<v Speaker 1>6 cents, maybe you'll drive 12,000, 15,000. You get the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>It all averages out. Steve Hilton's done the calculations to

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<v Speaker 1>10,000 to a thousand dollars a person. You got a

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<v Speaker 1>teenage driver. I could be another thousand dollars in the family. And,

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<v Speaker 1>So overwhelmingly, Becerra, even though he hasn't campaigned, the polls

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<v Speaker 1>say he's got a lead, big lead. Maybe he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Who the hell knows? But I tried not to use

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<v Speaker 1>this phrase, and I think I just succeeded maybe except

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<v Speaker 1>for once or twice over the last 12 years. But

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<v Speaker 1>this really is Trump derangement syndrome. Because overwhelmingly, people are

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<v Speaker 1>saying they're voting for Becerra to send a message against Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently the message you're sending Trump is, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to tax ourselves $ 2, 000 a family just to show you. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, Trump doesn't care if Becerra wins or not.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't. And he doesn't care if you make an

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<v Speaker 1>extra $ 2, 000. if you get taxed another $ 2, 000 or not.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it just gives him more material to use.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does affect you. But Sarah has made it clear,

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<v Speaker 1>it's $ 2, 000 a family, $ 1, 000 for every husband, wife, and spouse.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're getting from him, just for starters. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's how they do it. Josh Cohn in the California

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<v Speaker 1>Post says, a six-month California pilot program offers a glimpse

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<v Speaker 1>of how the state could track your every move. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be GPS-equipped tracking devices. Do you want a GPS

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<v Speaker 1>device on your car that reports back to the government

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<v Speaker 1>where you go and how much you drove to get there?

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<v Speaker 1>It could be You have to send photos of your odometer.

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<v Speaker 1>They tested four different ways. 800 people volunteered. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stand the people here in California who volunteer for these programs,

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<v Speaker 1>these pilot programs. All 800 should be deported. They should

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<v Speaker 1>be deported to that El Salvadoran prison and have their

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<v Speaker 1>heads shaved and their bodies forcibly covered in tattoos. You

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<v Speaker 1>participate with these wacky programs? This is on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the gas tax. What the hell kind of message are

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<v Speaker 1>you sending Trump to tax yourself $ 2, 000 and have a

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<v Speaker 1>GPS device installed in your vehicle? You could allow your

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<v Speaker 1>car's built-in technology to transmit the mileage data. You could

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<v Speaker 1>use a device without the GPS. These were the four

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<v Speaker 1>different ideas they tested. A third of the participants chose

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<v Speaker 1>GPS devices. A third of them chose to send the

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<v Speaker 1>government all the information about where they travel and how

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<v Speaker 1>far they travel. Why would you do that? These are

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<v Speaker 1>the same people who don't want a flock camera in

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<v Speaker 1>their neighborhoods because then the criminals would be tracked down easier.

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<v Speaker 1>They tried different charging methods. One was about three cents

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<v Speaker 1>a mile. Again, this is just a test. And half

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<v Speaker 1>of them got individualized rates based on their fuel efficiency.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh!

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<v Speaker 1>So this is to force people to buy the car

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<v Speaker 1>that Javier Becerra approves of. Oh, look at that. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay as much in a mileage tax if you

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<v Speaker 1>drive a car that we approve of. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>who authorized, who wrote the bill? Scott Weiner. That communist

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<v Speaker 1>weirdo up in San Francisco. That guy. The guy dresses

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<v Speaker 1>in leather chaps and then posts the photos online. You

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<v Speaker 1>ever see that? I have. Once you see that, you

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<v Speaker 1>can never get it out of your head. Sometimes at

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<v Speaker 1>2 in the morning, if I can't sleep, I suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>scream because I think of Scott Weiner and his chaps. Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It terrifies me. California is that bill allowed California to

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<v Speaker 1>test ways of collecting road charges. based on actual mileage. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I heard that stupid little dud, Becerra, mumbling

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<v Speaker 1>to a reporter, same canned line, well, you know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to fix the roads and bridges, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>need money for that. They have a budget of $ 9

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<v Speaker 1>billion a year, and our roads are either the worst

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<v Speaker 1>or the next to worst roads in the nation.

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<v Speaker 5>But don't those reporters say, but The gas tax was

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<v Speaker 5>to help fix the road.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is this? No, reporters don't do that. The

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<v Speaker 1>reporters are all on board on the progressive train. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. Now, reporters in other cities do that. In

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<v Speaker 1>New York City, they would do that. Not here. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Hilton says he's going to veto a mileage tax.

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<v Speaker 1>He called it gouging. Of course it's gouging. So, again,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the message you're sending? If you chose Hilton, you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't get that $ 2, 000 tax. You choose Becerra, you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a $ 2, 000 tax, but you're sending Trump a message. And

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is sitting there, it's like, well, these people are

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<v Speaker 1>dumb as bricks. They sent me a message that they're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to tax themselves $ 2, 000 to send me a message?

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, if this all comes to be, You

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<v Speaker 1>cannot possibly get stupider than the majority voting population here

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<v Speaker 1>in California. It's got to be the stupidest group of

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<v Speaker 1>humans I have ever encountered in my life. I have

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<v Speaker 1>never seen anything like this. I'm going to send Trump

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<v Speaker 1>a message. Here, here's $ 2, 000. You tell him I'm paying

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<v Speaker 1>the state $ 2, 000 extra. Hey, how's that for a message?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we come back. We're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>LAPD Detective Jamie McBride, Board of Directors, Los Angeles Police

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<v Speaker 1>Protective League. They are supporting Karen Bass' warning about Nithya Raman.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I'm joining their team now because Rahman's

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<v Speaker 1>crew was using my name in their political propaganda in

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<v Speaker 1>text messages to try to manipulate people not to vote

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<v Speaker 1>in the mayor's race based on something I said. And, well,

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<v Speaker 1>screw the Rahman campaign. And they finally pushed me over

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<v Speaker 1>the edge. And now we're going to talk with... Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>McBride of the Police Protective League here in LA.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie McBride. He's on the board of directors of the

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles Police Protective League. That's the police union. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're very much against Nithya Raman becoming the mayor and

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<v Speaker 1>being in charge of things here. They've thrown their support

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<v Speaker 1>with Karen Bass. Let's get Jamie McBride on. Jamie, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, both candidates are an impossible sell to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. So how do you make the case for

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Bass here to people who really look at her

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<v Speaker 1>last four years as being a colossal failure?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure. Let's go back to the beginning. The Protective League,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the police union that I'm one of the

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<v Speaker 3>directors on, we spent a lot of money for Rick Caruso,

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<v Speaker 3>and obviously we lost. Within two weeks, Karen Bass reached

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<v Speaker 3>out to us and wanted to have a meeting with us.

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<v Speaker 3>She told us in this meeting, she says, we have

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<v Speaker 3>the same goal, and that's to keep the community safe.

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<v Speaker 3>How can we work together? That was the first step

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<v Speaker 3>on having a pretty good relationship with her. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>she asked for funding for 170 officers, and Nithya Raman

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<v Speaker 3>voted it down. And mind you, we're already down 1,500 officers.

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<v Speaker 3>She was only asking for funding for 170. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you look at Nithya Raman. She already said she's a DSA,

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<v Speaker 3>a Democratic Socialist of America. If you go on their website,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not hiding anything. They want to abolish the police

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<v Speaker 3>and prisons. So what happens if your daughter goes out,

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<v Speaker 3>gets raped, and they catch the person? Where does that

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<v Speaker 3>person go if there's no prison? You know, they also

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<v Speaker 3>want to seize privately owned businesses and homes. They want

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<v Speaker 3>to have homeless encampments near schools, parks, daycare centers. And

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<v Speaker 3>they also want to legalize drug injection sites throughout the city.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is just some of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>she supports, that being Nithya Raman. And Nithya Raman already

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<v Speaker 3>says she wants to co-govern with the DSA. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>what they stand for. It's right on their website. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a conservative. And on my days off for the

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<v Speaker 3>last four weeks, I've been knocking on doors throughout the city,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to educate people on what Nithya Raman stands for

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<v Speaker 3>and the DSA and what it's going to do to

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<v Speaker 3>the city. And then I also asked them to vote

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<v Speaker 3>for Bass. Now, some of those people are saying that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I'm going to stay out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is if you stay out of it, you

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<v Speaker 3>might as well count that as a vote for Nithya Raman.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I feel that strongly about it. I think

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<v Speaker 3>if Nithya Raman, I know Nithya Raman becomes the mayor,

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<v Speaker 3>stand by. And right now, Mayor Bass, District Attorney Hockman,

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<v Speaker 3>and Chief McDonald are doing a great job. Last year

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<v Speaker 3>in 2025, we were at an all-time low since 1966.

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<v Speaker 3>We had 230 homicides. And why is that? Because they

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<v Speaker 3>work great together. They all believe in public safety. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what they're about. They're about going out there trying

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<v Speaker 3>to prevent crimes from occurring and reducing the crime. If

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<v Speaker 3>Nithya Raman comes in play, you're going to see that

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<v Speaker 3>homicides go back to 1,000 a year, like we had

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<v Speaker 3>my first start in my career in the 1990s. And

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<v Speaker 3>in the 1990s, it was over 1,000 a year in

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles. So there's a lot of things at risk here.

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<v Speaker 3>And this election here can damage decades. That's how long

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<v Speaker 3>it can be to recover the damage she can do

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<v Speaker 3>to the city.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were going door to door, how much did

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<v Speaker 1>people seem to know and understand about Nithya Raman and

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<v Speaker 1>the DSA? Did they know that she would be against

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<v Speaker 1>the existence of police, the existence of jails and prisons? No.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing was, they were just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 3>they know the whole bass thing. They thought, well, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to vote for bass. And they didn't really know

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<v Speaker 3>much about Nithya Rama until we educated them. And I

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<v Speaker 3>can tell you, after we talked to them and passed

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<v Speaker 3>out our pamphlets, they said they would vote for bass.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's important that we go out there and

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<v Speaker 3>continue to educate people all the way up until things

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<v Speaker 3>close tomorrow night, because we need to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>to defeat Nithya Rama, if you want to have safety

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<v Speaker 3>in Los Angeles, you have to vote for Karen Bass.

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<v Speaker 1>When you, have you talked to any DSA people to

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<v Speaker 1>try to, understand what they think would happen if we

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<v Speaker 1>did all the things that they're proposing, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of police and jails and prisons and bail and

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<v Speaker 1>all that? What do they think is going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>to the city?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's funny you mention that. I myself talked

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<v Speaker 3>to a few, and I've also seen some interviews where

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<v Speaker 3>those questions were asked to DSA people, and they have

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<v Speaker 3>no answer. They look dumbfounded when you're asking those questions. Like, okay,

0:19:20.850 --> 0:19:24.970
<v Speaker 3>exactly that question. If you have somebody that rapes your daughter,

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<v Speaker 3>who's going to go out and arrest them? And if

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<v Speaker 3>they are caught, where are they going to go? If

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<v Speaker 3>there's no prison? And they had no response. They had

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<v Speaker 3>no response? That's how clueless these people are.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that sounds like they're in a cult.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right. Now, go.

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<v Speaker 1>Ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're right. It's a cult. But it doesn't take much.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at Seattle. They have a socialist mayor there. And

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<v Speaker 3>look what's going on in Seattle. You have closed business

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<v Speaker 3>You have drugs everywhere. You have homelessness everywhere. Then you

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<v Speaker 3>look at New York. They're following suit right now. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what's going to happen here, especially with the DSA

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<v Speaker 3>behind them. The DSA is a whole other monster, not

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<v Speaker 3>just a socialist, a democratic socialist. And those are even worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, they believe in seizing everything. They want

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<v Speaker 3>to control you. And that's what's scary. But, again, you know,

0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:13.980
<v Speaker 3>we're trying to educate people as fast as we can.

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<v Speaker 3>And the people we reach out to and we actually

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<v Speaker 3>talk to them, they actually said they're going to vote.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what's important.

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<v Speaker 1>Has Raman or anyone from her team come to speak

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<v Speaker 1>with you?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no. We've actually made attempts to call her office.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't got a return call. Really? Yeah. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear that a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>She just doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She and her office just doesn't respond to lots of

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<v Speaker 1>people and lots of issues and complaints that people have.

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<v Speaker 1>They just shut down.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and she talks about right now how she

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<v Speaker 3>reduced homelessness in her area, but then she disapproved. She

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the council members that approved to have

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<v Speaker 3>homeless go back to the parks and camp out there

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<v Speaker 3>at the parks. You know, this this is about and

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<v Speaker 3>they talk about quality of life for the homeless. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>what about the children that live in Los Angeles? What

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<v Speaker 3>about their quality of life? Is this is this their

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<v Speaker 3>new normal? They walk around, they see homeless encampments everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, my office is near is on a street

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<v Speaker 3>near the 110 freeway. Just the other day, I'm driving

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<v Speaker 3>to work. I see a lady pushing a special needs

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<v Speaker 3>kid in a wheelchair. She had to go off into

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<v Speaker 3>the street. There's no way to get around this homeless

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<v Speaker 3>encampment on the sidewalk just to get around and then

0:21:26.410 --> 0:21:30.010
<v Speaker 3>go back onto the sidewalk. Right. And again, and this

0:21:30.070 --> 0:21:31.570
<v Speaker 3>is what they want near the schools. We have them

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<v Speaker 3>right by our right by our school, right up by

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<v Speaker 3>our office. There's homeless scammers right there. That's why we're

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<v Speaker 3>telling people go to go to Rahman facts dot com

0:21:39.380 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 3>and look what look what Nikki Rahman is about. Go

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<v Speaker 3>to Rahman facts dot com. You'll see that you'll see

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<v Speaker 3>everything about her. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>LAPD Detective Jamie McBride on the board of directors of

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<v Speaker 1>the L.A. Police Protective League. That's the police union. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for coming on.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate your support. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>There he is. We will discuss all this further coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the candidate who's not going to raise... You raise

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<v Speaker 1>$ 2, 000 in taxes just because you drive? That mileage tax,

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<v Speaker 1>that driving tax idea, that's Javier Becerra's that he announced

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to impose. $ 2, 000 per family, per husband and wife. $ 2, 000.

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<v Speaker 1>Becerra said he would veto any proposal like that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. You want to send a message to Trump?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Donald, I'm taxing myself $ 2, 000 to send you a message.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Trump will reimburse you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Stupid asses. Another topic I'm completely sick of. This whole

0:23:11.170 --> 0:23:15.210
<v Speaker 1>defund the police, replace police with social workers. Good Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's got to dig a grave for this and bury

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<v Speaker 1>it once and for all. The answer is no. And

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<v Speaker 1>we played this clip last week. And I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>play it again because this is Nithya Raman with a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast host named Graham Stephan on the Iced Coffee Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to her nonsense.

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<v Speaker 5>There's thousands of calls that are coming in, calls for

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<v Speaker 5>service that are for things that you don't need armed

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<v Speaker 5>officers to go out for, like the issue that you

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<v Speaker 5>had with a person who was on your sidewalk, who

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<v Speaker 5>was clearly homeless. who is maybe not someone you feel

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<v Speaker 5>comfortable talking to, LAPD would come out to that situation

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<v Speaker 5>and not be able to do anything, right? If there's

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<v Speaker 5>not a crime happening there, if they're not a threat

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<v Speaker 5>to themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there is a crime. They're doing drugs.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, if they're just sitting on your sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they're doing drugs.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's a different situation, right? What I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 5>is someone sitting on your sidewalk talking to talking to

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<v Speaker 5>themselves potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, no, no, no. I mean, that's not what I'm taught.

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<v Speaker 1>Anytime the police have been called, it's because they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>drugs in public.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>But what I'm talking about is there's a whole set

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<v Speaker 5>of calls that are coming in for situations where people

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<v Speaker 5>feel uncomfortable talking to an individual, but they clearly need some.

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<v Speaker 1>Assistance, right?

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<v Speaker 5>That is where you have this unarmed... mental health responders.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you actually build that out, you can take

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<v Speaker 5>thousands of call load off of LAPD, thousands of calls

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<v Speaker 5>off of LAPD's plate, leave armed officers able to respond

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<v Speaker 5>to the calls that you need armed officers to respond to.

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<v Speaker 5>And you'll have actually trained responders for these other calls.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Shut her up. I can't, I can't, I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't take this. Um, we, we just had, um,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie McBride from the police protective league on, and then, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>There is another– let me get the name of– the

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<v Speaker 1>vice president is Chris Wecker of the Police Protective League,

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<v Speaker 1>and he told Fox News– We support unarmed responses to

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<v Speaker 1>some calls. Public drug use is not one of those calls.

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<v Speaker 1>These are some of the most dangerous and unpredictable calls

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<v Speaker 1>to which officers must respond. Listen to this. Because what

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.940
<v Speaker 1>they really want is the destruction of our society here.

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<v Speaker 1>None of this makes any sense, and we should stop

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<v Speaker 1>debating this. You have to start rejecting all these candidates,

0:25:37.730 --> 0:25:42.020
<v Speaker 1>all these DSA people, because they're insane. We can't imagine

0:25:42.170 --> 0:25:47.020
<v Speaker 1>a methamphetamine or cocaine user paying any attention to a clinician.

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<v Speaker 1>And we believe the responding clinician would actually escalate the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>putting them in harm's way and necessitating an armed response.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a homeless person doing drugs. You get a

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<v Speaker 1>police officer to arrest them. If you have a homeless

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<v Speaker 1>person talking to themselves, you get a police officer to

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<v Speaker 1>force them into treatment. That's what the policy should be.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no other policy that's going to work.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's sitting in front of my house on the

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<v Speaker 1>curb talking to himself, that's bad. If he's doing drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>that's worse. In either case, he doesn't get to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You make him, you force him into treatment. Loitering is

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<v Speaker 1>the misdemeanor.

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<v Speaker 3>Loitering.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you start with. That's the hook. And we

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<v Speaker 1>have to have no tolerance for this anymore. Stop debating it.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop indulging these people. Don't waste your time. Get them

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<v Speaker 1>out of office. We've given them 10 years and billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars. Their way failed. It always will fail. It

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<v Speaker 1>always will. And enough is enough already. my mental health,

0:27:06.890 --> 0:27:13.990
<v Speaker 1>the well-being of my family being held hostage by these lunatic, progressive, DNA,

0:27:14.150 --> 0:27:19.060
<v Speaker 1>communist whack jobs. Enough of these people. They're a minority

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<v Speaker 1>of a minority. And somehow they got into power by

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<v Speaker 1>intimidating people in government or bribing them or God knows what.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just enough. We're not going to debate the

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<v Speaker 1>usefulness of police anymore. We're going to hire more police.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get to live in the streets, period. And

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<v Speaker 1>if Bass wins, she's got to do this. If this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's... Shoveling the rhetoric out right now. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>not forget the last four years. Just because ramen looks

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<v Speaker 1>like this communist cancer. All right. We got Steve Hilton

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<v Speaker 1>coming up after 520. And, oh, we got Javier Becerra

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<v Speaker 1>stuff next. And we'll play some clips of him. Debra

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