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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Official Colts Podcast, presented by Win las Vegas. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 4: JJ Stankowitz, LERA Overton, A couple of things. I just

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Speaker 4: want to hear Jeffrey Gorman. I am Jeffrey Gorman. I

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Speaker 4: want to get off my chest. Is like that environment

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Speaker 4: that we saw Saturday at Lucas Oil Stadium and the

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Speaker 4: steaks that were on the line from that, It's.

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Speaker 1: Been a minute. It's been a minute that.

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Speaker 4: The stakes have been that high for him and to

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Speaker 4: go down thirteen to nothing and rattle off thirty straight

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Speaker 4: you guys, I have to commend you. And I've heard

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Speaker 4: this from other people too. I'm not blowing smoke. Great

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Speaker 4: job by you as a stadium announcer. I talked about

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Speaker 4: it on the pregame because Steeler Nation, Steeler Nation and

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Speaker 4: they travel so well. Great job by you getting this

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Speaker 4: also listened to the game with one earphone in here. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you were busy and had a great call. I loved

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Speaker 4: You were excited to be there and it showed in

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Speaker 4: what you guys were doing. That's all I want to

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Speaker 4: say is commitment. Both of you needed that. That was

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Speaker 4: a great win for the fans, great win for the organization.

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Speaker 4: And I want to get to a couple of guys JJ.

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Speaker 4: I'll start with you, the Tyler Goodsons of the world

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Speaker 4: Tray sermons DJ Montgomery like stepping up Colts. Fans are

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Speaker 4: going wait, wait, wait, who is that and doing it

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Speaker 4: when we need it with the you know we talking

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Speaker 3: I mean to have those games just any time in

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Speaker 3: incredible achievement for each of those guys. But to have

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Speaker 3: I mean, Trey Sermon is no stranger to it. He's

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Speaker 3: But for Tyler Goodson to come up and literally not

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Speaker 3: And this is a guy, too, Lara, who had literally

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Speaker 4: And to see what they're doing right now with two

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Speaker 6: Something's supposed to be stress free for me, it was.

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Speaker 3: If you would have told me in mid August that

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Speaker 3: that could be a Saturday, right, Yeah. The NFL is

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Speaker 1: I like that on against the Steelers. The whole bit.

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Speaker 4: That for you, I'm saying, for your game for your workday.

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Speaker 6: It is straight sorcery. That's Scott Hansen. It is. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: There by week you play a Thursday game or whatever.

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Speaker 5: So I've watched Red Zone before, but to have that

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Speaker 4: As you start going to care can stand the Jackson's

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Speaker 4: Don't know what's gonna happen with with Trevor Lawrence with

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Speaker 4: Plus you've got that thing going so, hey, what the

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Speaker 4: Colts did with with sacks this year? Uh, let's touch

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Speaker 6: Ties the franchise record in the Indianapolis era.

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Speaker 5: The conqueror because of everything that he's overcome, back to

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Speaker 6: He also leads the whole defensive line in prayer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean buck is that guy? Say well, but

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Speaker 3: Speed comes bam forced fumble. But don't, hey, don't have

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Speaker 1: Watt. That went pretty well, right.

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Speaker 3: I know everyone watched the Quentin Nelson highlight where he's

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Speaker 3: you watch that play, look at Durogletree. He locks up TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt on that play. So you know it's not always

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Speaker 1: That's a win win.

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Speaker 4: Who do you like Pro Bowl wise defensive side?

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Speaker 5: Oh, Sire Franklin leads the league in tackles and missed

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was at that's one ahead of Foyer

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Speaker 4: Olua Khan right now. I've said it, and I've said

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Speaker 3: Give me Quintin Nelson, like another guy. You just like

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Speaker 3: only one of eight guards to allow one or fewer

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Speaker 5: But you see, Ryan Kelly was on the TA Show today.

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Speaker 6: I was almost late for work because I was like

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Speaker 3: He should also probably be in that Pro Bowl discussion.

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Speaker 3: But for me, Q is like give me if you're

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Speaker 6: For exactly the second in the league in targets.

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Speaker 5: Right now, going into what are week sixteen, sixteen, right, yep.

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Speaker 3: I need to see if he can. I mean, there's

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are saying, and listen, I am

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Speaker 4: As far as you know that you've got that side,

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be?

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be Kevin Stefanski would be in there too

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Speaker 3: of hurt their offense. Nico Collins's missed some time, like absolutely,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and and Demiko Ryan's like all respect to

437
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Speaker 3: him because he's got those Ude's playing so hard and

438
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Speaker 3: you can see kind of like how the Colts. Shane's

439
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Speaker 3: impact on this team has been like, he doesn't flinch

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Speaker 3: at anything. Okay, who's up? How are we going to

441
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Speaker 3: get Tyler Goodson to you know, average six yards of Carrie.

442
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Speaker 3: Let's go do it for Damiko Ryans. You can see

443
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Speaker 3: a team that had been just so downtrodden over the

444
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Speaker 3: last two years is now just playing their butts off

445
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Speaker 3: and that comes from him and like that game Week eight.

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Speaker 1: Team that could be so much fun. Way, this is

447
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Speaker 1: how it is.

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Speaker 4: This is playoff football, and it's already started before we're

449
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Speaker 4: even at the playoffs. Colts fans always dive in. The

450
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Speaker 4: latest information is available at Colts dot com, at Larra Olverton,

451
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Speaker 4: at JJ Stankowitz. We're gonna throw off here a little

452
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Speaker 4: bit and we're gonna go to JJU had a chance

453
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Speaker 4: to sit down with Brad Spielberger from PFF talking twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three Colts but also the future of this fan

455
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Speaker 4: franchise under Shane Stikeen and what it could look like

456
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four and beyond.

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Speaker 1: So let's throw it that real quick and we'll come

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Speaker 1: back and say hi.

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Speaker 3: Or by all right, joining me here on the official

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Speaker 3: Colts podcast from Pro Football Focus. Salary Cap analyst and

461
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Speaker 3: a good friend of mine, Brad Spielberger. Brad, thanks for

462
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Speaker 3: hopping on with me here.

463
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Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you for grabbing me.

464
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Speaker 3: So I wanted to bring you on just to talk

465
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Speaker 3: a little bit about the long term position the Colts

466
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Speaker 3: are in, where you know, we're kind of sowing the

467
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Speaker 3: weeds here in Indianapolis of being in a playoff run

468
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Speaker 3: contending for the AFC South, but you kind of have

469
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Speaker 3: the bigger picture of view that I think is really

470
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Speaker 3: interesting because I was listening to The Athletic Football Show

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Speaker 3: with Robert Mays and Date Tights to do a great job,

472
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Speaker 3: and they were both just talking about how like, if

473
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Speaker 3: you're a Colts fan, you should be so optimistic about

474
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Speaker 3: the direction this team is heading. So I wanted to

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Speaker 3: ask you, just kind of to start off, just what

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Speaker 3: do you think of the twenty twenty three Colts, the

477
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Speaker 3: position they're in right now, the success they're having under

478
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Speaker 3: Shane stike in and some of the things that Chris

479
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Speaker 3: Ballard has done constructing this roster to be eight and

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Speaker 3: six right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that jumping off point for me

483
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Speaker 2: is there was a lot of evidence that Shane Steiken

484
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Speaker 2: knew how to cater On offense, the talent he had

485
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Speaker 2: if him with a rookie Justin Herbert, you go to Philadelphia,

486
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Speaker 2: a different talent. He still a very good player in

487
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, but utilize his skills set very very differently,

488
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Speaker 2: and both offenses obviously were great. So comes to Innnapolis.

489
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Speaker 2: You get all excited for how is he going to

490
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Speaker 2: use you know, Anthony Richardson a lot of zone read

491
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Speaker 2: and different concepts using his legs maybe more alike a

492
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Speaker 2: jail and Hurts early on in his career.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, gets hurt.

494
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Speaker 2: Now we're going to a Gardner Minshew who yes he

495
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Speaker 2: knows from Philly, but totally different player. They lead the

496
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Speaker 2: NFL at rpo rate. They're up there and play action rate.

497
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Speaker 2: It's just a it's a simplified offense, but still a

498
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Speaker 2: lot of nuance to it, clean execution, and I think

499
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Speaker 2: you just see the attention to detail. The Steelers game

500
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Speaker 2: was a perfect example. You get a bunch of injuries,

501
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Speaker 2: your number one receiver who's having a career year, You

502
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Speaker 2: lose Zach Moss, so you're down to your you know,

503
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Speaker 2: third and depth running backs, and you start off to

504
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Speaker 2: the second half with a great Pinn and poll for

505
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Speaker 2: twenty yards on the right sideline, Like it's just everything

506
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Speaker 2: is so clean, all these young tight ends getting worked

507
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Speaker 2: into the fold kind of rambling. Now you can tell

508
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Speaker 2: how excited I am about this team. And Shane Stikeen,

509
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Speaker 2: So I think.

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Speaker 7: He's been excellent.

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Speaker 2: I would be as optimistic optimistic as I could possibly be.

512
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Speaker 2: He's a Coach of the Year candidate in my eyes.

513
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Speaker 2: And then Ballard I think's having like kind of a

514
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Speaker 2: you know, a bounce back where it's not even just

515
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Speaker 2: a good draft class. And you know, Samson Ebucam. I

516
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Speaker 2: know they don't dip into free agency often. It's good

517
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Speaker 2: that when you do dip in you get a phenomenal

518
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Speaker 2: hit like an Ebicam. But also you know, you see that.

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Speaker 7: There was talent there.

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Speaker 2: Last year, a lot of guys just didn't play after

521
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Speaker 2: their ability. Maybe they weren't being put in positions to succeed.

522
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Speaker 2: Obviously the coach that left also didn't make it through

523
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Speaker 2: the year in Carolina. So yeah, I think everyone's flying high.

524
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Speaker 2: The offensive line's playing better. But yeah, it all comes

525
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Speaker 2: back to me. You now know you have a head

526
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Speaker 2: coach on the offensive side of the football who I

527
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Speaker 2: think can can adapt to the talent he has, which

528
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Speaker 2: is which is the best thing you can say about

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Speaker 2: a coach.

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Speaker 3: You hit on a couple of things there and I

531
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Speaker 3: think are really interesting talking about Shane specifically and how

532
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Speaker 3: it's kind of this it's simple, but it's not. It's

533
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Speaker 3: running the same five or six plays, but you're dressing

534
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Speaker 3: him up differently. That's something like when you think about

535
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Speaker 3: other offensive minded coaches where so often now that they're

536
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Speaker 3: coming from the Shanahan tree right where you can look

537
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Speaker 3: at that offense so you can see that's exactly what

538
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Speaker 3: that's going to look like as it kind of proliferates

539
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Speaker 3: throughout the league, obviously with some tweaks, But Shane doesn't

540
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Speaker 3: come from the Shanahan Tree. Comes kind of from like

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Speaker 3: the Norv Turner tree, where he's also worked with a

542
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Speaker 3: number of different people throughout his career. What has made

543
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Speaker 3: Shane the right fit just as an offensive mind with

544
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Speaker 3: the collection of players that he has here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: I think here's a perfect example is we do fall

546
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Speaker 2: in love the trees, and obviously you know the Shanahan

547
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Speaker 2: tree is all the rage right now and the outside

548
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Speaker 2: zone that sets up play action. You attack the middle

549
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Speaker 2: of the field, the YadA YadA YadA, Sean McVay and

550
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Speaker 2: for the Rams this season is running a completely different

551
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Speaker 2: offense than he's ever run. They are running a gap

552
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Speaker 2: heavy rushing scheme. They're in shotgun way more often than

553
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Speaker 2: under center. You know, They're just doing different things and

554
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Speaker 2: utilizing different players, you know, because obviously Matthew Stafford is

555
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Speaker 2: not Jared Goff. So like, that's the thing for me, is, yeah,

556
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Speaker 2: you want to have a foundation, you want to something

557
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Speaker 2: you come back to and your core principles. But really,

558
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Speaker 2: I do think it and it sounds oversimplified, but it's

559
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Speaker 2: not an easy thing to do. Is really to be

560
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Speaker 2: to learning every offseason, stealing at this from other people

561
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Speaker 2: and just kind of incorporating concepts, you know, time and

562
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Speaker 2: time again. Because yeah, I don't remember a ton of

563
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Speaker 2: RPO in LA. I'm sure there was a good bit

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Speaker 2: in Philly. And obviously, now, like I said, they're leading

565
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Speaker 2: the NFL this year in Indy. Would that have been

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Speaker 2: the case with Ranthey Richardson, Maybe to a degree, but

567
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Speaker 2: you know, I think it would bit more tied to

568
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Speaker 2: QB run than it would be like actually handling the

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Speaker 2: football off.

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Speaker 7: So like that. That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I think he just he adapts so well to these

572
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Speaker 2: surrounding circumstances, not just not just quarterback too. How is

573
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Speaker 2: your offensive line constructed? You know, are you have to

574
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Speaker 2: to move guys around because of injuries things of that nature.

575
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Speaker 2: That twenty twenty one Chargers Z line was not good.

576
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Speaker 2: They're pretty good now. Then you go to the Eagles

577
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Speaker 2: and the best offensive line in football. So anyway, I'm

578
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Speaker 2: rambling again, but yeah, it's just I really think it

579
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Speaker 2: comes back to just being flexible. And that's what I

580
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Speaker 2: see when I watch Chanstiken.

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Speaker 3: When the Colts this offseason went about constructing this roster,

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Speaker 3: they didn't make any changes on the offensive line in

583
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Speaker 3: terms of personnel as the same five that ended last season.

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Speaker 3: They brought in Tony Sperrano Junior to be their offensive

585
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Speaker 3: line coach. To me, that's been a home run higher,

586
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Speaker 3: kind of an under the radar maybe not getting a

587
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Speaker 3: you know, nationally, and you know, the Colts nationally haven't

588
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Speaker 3: been as discussed as you would expect for a team

589
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Speaker 3: coming off a four to twelve and one season, But

590
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Speaker 3: that's been kind of a home run higher to get

591
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Speaker 3: those guys back to where they've been in years past.

592
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Speaker 3: Just how much impact can one like right assistant coaching

593
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Speaker 3: hire have when you're looking at roster construction and you know,

594
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Speaker 3: context matters so much like you get the right old

595
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Speaker 3: line coach and there and all of a sudden, this

596
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Speaker 3: group's playing like a top ten fifteen unit in the NFL. Again,

597
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Speaker 3: just how much does that matter?

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Speaker 2: It's huge because you also, you know, you have specific

599
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Speaker 2: examples to where Bernard Ryman, I think is take a

600
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Speaker 2: massive leap. I don't think it was badlast year, but

601
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Speaker 2: just limiting the negatives, learning the nuance of football, more

602
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Speaker 2: comfortable on an island now. In particular pass sets, He's

603
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Speaker 2: not reaching and you know, grabbing too early. He's patient,

604
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Speaker 2: he has good use of his hands, gets into defender's

605
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Speaker 2: chests and like things that a guy that was newer

606
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Speaker 2: to football probably wasn't going to be good at right

607
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Speaker 2: out of the gate. But it also goes to ball

608
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Speaker 2: or trusting. You know, the guy likes drafting athletes. Go

609
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Speaker 2: look at the you know, Spark scores or Ris scores

610
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Speaker 2: of his draft classes. Probably starts with the nine when

611
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Speaker 2: it's a Chris Ballard pick. But you know you need

612
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Speaker 2: development of those athletes, It doesn't get you all the

613
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Speaker 2: way there. So Soperano comes in, not only him too,

614
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Speaker 2: Will Fries at right guard. I think his evolution this

615
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Speaker 2: season has been really, really impressive. I mentioned the pinpoll

616
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Speaker 2: and the moving the guards.

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Speaker 7: Look. Is he Quentin Nelson.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of people are Quentin Nelson, but he's

619
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Speaker 2: comfortable in space, and I think from the first month

620
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Speaker 2: to now you've seen him with cleaner footwork crossing.

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Speaker 7: The Wana scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: I think he does it again, does an overset and

623
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Speaker 2: just kind of gets right into the chest of defenders,

624
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Speaker 2: knows where to be, not panicky, just confidence. And I

625
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Speaker 2: think that confidence is evident in all these young players

626
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: and the veterans. Ryan Kelly playing great again, Quentin Nelson

627
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Speaker 2: bouncing back. Thanks Barano has been an excellent hire, no question.

628
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Speaker 3: So we think about building blocks for this team going forward.

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Speaker 3: You have the coach in Shane Stiken, you believe you

630
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Speaker 3: have the quarterback. Wead Chris Ballard on our podcast a

631
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago and he said, you know, we

632
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Speaker 3: think we saw enough from Anthony to know how to

633
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Speaker 3: build around him going forward. Where else do the does

634
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Speaker 3: this Colts team have building blocks to kind of lead

635
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Speaker 3: to the optimism that you know, you and so many

636
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: other folks are talking about for this team going forward.

637
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Speaker 2: So I do think the offensive line a couple of

638
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Speaker 2: guys already, but Braden Smith and Quentin Nelson you know,

639
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: obviously got to get healthy, but should be here for

640
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: a couple more years. Ryan Kelly now probably maybe you

641
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 2: keep him in the fold. So that's a great unit

642
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: to have up front. Foreign Anthony Richardson. You know, look,

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Speaker 2: I thinkman Michael Pittman obviously needs to get extended or

644
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: do something there contractually, but I think he has taken

645
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: that step forward and shown you he can be, you know,

646
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Speaker 2: the number one option offense, a high volume guy, always

647
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: been a high target player, but more splash plays this year,

648
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Speaker 2: I think, creating better separation, crisper route running from him.

649
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Speaker 2: I think he's been excellent. So the offense, I think

650
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Speaker 2: you still could though probably add some more you know,

651
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: pass catching options. I mentioned the tight ends. I love

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Speaker 2: their stable. I maybe the deepest stable of tight ends

653
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Speaker 2: in the NFL at this point. Ogle Tree has been great,

654
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Speaker 2: Callan Grantson has been a good player for them for

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Speaker 2: a while now. So yeah, I think those are the

656
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Speaker 2: building blocks there. Defense is interesting. A lot of free

657
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Speaker 2: agents there as well, Kenny Moore on the slot, Grover

658
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Speaker 2: Stewart now back from his suspension, obviously a massive piece

659
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Speaker 2: of that run defense. Both those guys need to get paid.

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Speaker 2: Julian Blackman's been interesting. He's been playing way down in

661
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: the box a bunch this year compared to a deep

662
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Speaker 2: third free safety, and I think it's been a really

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Speaker 2: good adjustment for him. Obviously coming off maybe the best

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Speaker 2: game of his career or season, you know, with the

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00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: interceptions past game. So the defense probably needs a little

666
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: more help right DeForrest Buckner is a foundational piece, but

667
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: getting up there in age, quity pay and d oh

668
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: dangbo good young players. But I think that side of

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Speaker 2: the ball is going to be interesting. I think maybe

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Speaker 2: you spend some early capital there and try to add

671
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: in some like force multiplier, elite talent at premium positions.

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Speaker 2: A lot of good players. I mean, we need to

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Speaker 2: get some great players on that side.

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Speaker 1: Of the ball.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me about the resources the Colts have next year.

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Speaker 3: What's that looking like?

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Speaker 7: It's looking great.

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Speaker 2: So I mentioned they don't really dip their toes in

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Speaker 2: the free agency waters all that often and you know,

680
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Speaker 2: sometimes you want to, and we mentioned Ebcam has been

681
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: a great signing, but they have a ton of resources

682
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Speaker 2: at their disposal. Obviously, the draft pick is not going

683
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: to be quite as early as maybe many expected. But

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Speaker 2: top five in projected cap space as of right now

685
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: in the NFL about seventy three million dollars using a

686
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Speaker 2: two hundred and forty forty two million dollar projection, that

687
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Speaker 2: is what it sounds like, based on some conversations between

688
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: the league and the teams, is where it's going to

689
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Speaker 2: end up. So, I mean, yeah, top five in cap space.

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Speaker 2: You do have a lot of players in your contract,

691
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Speaker 2: but that is going to be interesting. Obviously, you know Pittman,

692
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Speaker 2: more Stewart Blackman. I might even be forgetting some guys too.

693
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Speaker 2: They do have a lot of pending free agents, but

694
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Speaker 2: also you know, the resources to retain the guy they

695
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Speaker 2: want and maybe add some more talent as well.

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Speaker 3: What about the rest of the AFC South, Like, where

697
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Speaker 3: do you see this division going? With all four teams

698
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Speaker 3: potentially having young quarterbacks on rookie contracts.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty remarkable. Yeah, it could go from a division

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Speaker 2: you know, at times is viewed as one of the

701
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Speaker 2: poor in the NFL to maybe.

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Speaker 7: The best division of football.

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Speaker 2: If these guys pan out like it, it looks like

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Speaker 2: they can so resources wise, the Titans probably should have

705
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Speaker 2: torn this whole thing down before twenty twenty three. They

706
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Speaker 2: obviously choose not to, And I get it, Mike Vrabel

707
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: can get more out of town than most coaches. But

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Speaker 2: you kind of, you know, prolong the inevitable rebuild there

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Speaker 2: by year. Do you keep DeAndre Hopkins for another season?

710
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Speaker 2: Do you keep spending on some players that probably you

711
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Speaker 2: know you're not going to contend So they're the furthest

712
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Speaker 2: away right now, I would say, just because they kind

713
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Speaker 2: of have to go through a roster. Redo Houston's books

714
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Speaker 2: are pretty clean.

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Speaker 7: You know. Nick Cassaria always signs these one.

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Speaker 2: Of year free agent deals, keeps optionality at his disposal.

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Speaker 2: You know, had the first round pick from Cleveland into

718
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Speaker 2: so they give up their own, but they do have

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Speaker 2: a first round pick still this year. And then Jacksonville's

720
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Speaker 2: interesting too, not a lot of pending free agents, but

721
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Speaker 2: they have spent you know, a lot of their money.

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Speaker 2: Now do they Reritann to Calvin Ridley at receiver? You know,

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Speaker 2: what do they do there to add more weapons? More

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman for Trevor Lawrence. But they're not in a

725
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: bad spot. But yeah, India is probably in the healthiest

726
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Speaker 2: of all four of those. It's all about those quarterbacks developing.

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Speaker 3: For a team that you know, no one really expected

728
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Speaker 3: to contend nationally and that doesn't matter within the walls

729
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: of this building. But to be playing these meaningful games

730
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Speaker 3: in December, to get a relatively young roster, this experience,

731
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Speaker 3: whether you make the playoffs or not. Can that be

732
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Speaker 3: a springboard too for the colts of you know, hey, okay,

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Speaker 3: now Josh Downs knows what it looks like, Now Juju

734
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Speaker 3: Brent knows what it looks like. Now Drew Ogletree knows

735
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Speaker 3: what it looks like for those guys next year to

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Speaker 3: take the next step in their careers and also build

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Speaker 3: a team that could be contending again for the AFC

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Speaker 3: South in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Huge for both, you know, the mentality reasons and like

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Speaker 2: you said, seeing what it looks like understanding playoff football,

741
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Speaker 2: but then also the football component of all right, the

742
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: opponents get tougher that the film study and the matchups

743
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Speaker 2: are way more dissected, so maybe.

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Speaker 7: You see some look nere have seen before. Or you're

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Speaker 7: Josh Downs. You're getting more.

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Speaker 2: Attention than you have all year long because people say, oh,

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00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: we can't leave this rookie alone, like this guy can

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00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: make plays. So I think all of the ur Juji

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Speaker 2: Brant's kind of get picked on a little bit potentially,

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Speaker 2: even though I think he's been one of the better

751
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: outside corners one healthy you know, in Indy.

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Speaker 7: So I think it's massive.

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Speaker 2: I really really do, both for the kind of intangible

754
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Speaker 2: reasons but also legitimate football reasons of just playoff football

755
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: on radular season. Football are a different sport in a

756
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Speaker 2: lot of ways.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, Brad, I got to say, being a

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Speaker 3: Bears fan for three hours on Sunday was an excruciating experience.

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Speaker 3: So hats off to you for going through that. Every

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Speaker 3: waking hour of your life watching that Browns game. Rooting

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Speaker 3: for the Bears was a little tough experience for us

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Speaker 3: here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: We would have helped out a lot of AFP teams.

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Speaker 2: There's like ten teams in that cluster, and yeah, we

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Speaker 2: would have a lot of a lot of NC teams.

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Speaker 2: Would have would have been like, thank you, Chicago, But

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Speaker 2: you know what it's like, all right.

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Speaker 3: Well, Brad Spielberger from Pro Football Focus, thanks for joining

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Speaker 3: us here on the Official Colts podcast.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch up with you here soon.

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Speaker 7: Sounds great. Thank you.

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00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: You and Bradley good friends. Yeah, we know each other

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Speaker 3: a little bit from Chicago, Okay. I wanted to bring

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Speaker 3: him on though, because the like, we're all we're so

775
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: in it with the Colts right now, Like we're in

776
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: the playoff race, we're in the AFC South Race, we're

777
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Speaker 3: day to day, week to week here bringing someone on

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Speaker 3: to be, you know, to kind of explain what this

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Speaker 3: all means in the context of everything else, like what's

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Speaker 3: the direction of this franchise? And it is optimistic, it is.

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Speaker 3: It was so good to hear from Brad and the

782
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Speaker 3: whatever happens the rest of this season, this team's arrow

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00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: is pointing firmly up In twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: Four and B one one comment I heard about Shane

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Speaker 5: Steichen best play caller in the building since Peyton manning.

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Speaker 4: Well said, did you did you get anything you dig

787
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Speaker 4: anything up or see anything interesting sidelines on Saturday?

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Speaker 6: I feel like you're hunting for something I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I was sort of a little bit I'm following. I

790
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 4: was reading a little bit on the script if we

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Speaker 4: got anything from the sidelines that maybe you had a

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Speaker 4: little nugget on.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 5: Uh, I don't wait, I feel like is there this

796
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 5: is a pointed question?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was very open ended when I threw it on

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Speaker 3: the rundown of like because when I went back here

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Speaker 3: and I watched.

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Speaker 1: I'm not worry about that.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 6: Noticed on the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: So like the example Lara that I was that was

805
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Speaker 3: in my head when I wrote this down, which I

806
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 3: brought up earlier, was the like Drew Ogletree just locking

807
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Speaker 3: up t J Watt on the goods and running play

808
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Speaker 3: where he game thirty one yards and what makes some

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00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: more spontaneous, Yeah it is. I think it's better. But

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Speaker 3: like that that was like something that was like I

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Speaker 3: noticed that when I was rewatching the game, like, oh man,

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00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 3: that was a great block by Drew, Like let's give

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Speaker 3: him some love here. But I always think you you

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Speaker 3: bring great notes from the sideline of this or that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I think it was probably for me was watching after

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Speaker 5: DJ Montgomery's touchdown, like the eruption on the sideline and

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Speaker 5: like one of like Jonathan Taylor running over to like

819
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Speaker 5: Tyler Goodson, Trey Sermon DJ and like just like hyping

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Speaker 5: those guys up like crazy. You know. I thought that

821
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Speaker 5: was like something that was just really cool to watch

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Speaker 5: him get so like fired up for those guys. See

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Speaker 5: you know what they were able to do and what

824
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Speaker 5: they were able to bring. Oh, okay, here it is.

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Speaker 5: Here is something that just had to talk my way

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Speaker 5: through it. I think my my favorite observation. And I'm

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Speaker 5: yelling in Matt Taylor's ear as it's happening. God bless Matt,

828
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Speaker 5: because he's got like he's hearing ten different people.

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Speaker 6: And I am not a quiet voice.

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Speaker 5: So you know, if I'm losing my mind about something,

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Speaker 5: usually I'm trying to like emphatically, you know, direct his

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Speaker 5: attention to something.

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Speaker 6: So when EJ Speed.

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Speaker 5: Got the forced fumble, but they they did not initially

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Speaker 5: call it a force fumble, I think they ruled him

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Speaker 5: down by contact.

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Speaker 6: Right, EJ is doing this and I'm like Matt. EJ's

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Speaker 6: taling Shane to challenge it.

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Speaker 5: He's challenged talent Shane to challenge and you can see

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Speaker 5: like Shane's trying to like talk to guys upstairs, you know,

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Speaker 5: trying to figure out whether he should pull the flag

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Speaker 5: this or that, I mean, and EJ is just like

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Speaker 5: with conviction, and.

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Speaker 6: I heard him talk about this after that. That's the

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Speaker 6: first time.

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Speaker 5: He's been in this situation with Shane where he's tried

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Speaker 5: to insist in the challenge. So he's kind of working

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Speaker 5: through this, like I kind of got a convinced coach

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Speaker 5: or I feel pretty strongly.

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Speaker 6: About this, but like, is Shane to be receptive?

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00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 5: So there's this holy feeling out process and then seeing Shane,

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's the other thing too, is like when

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00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 5: you have a player who is that convicted on the sidelines,

854
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 5: he's telling you, like, you're gonna be receptive, right, So

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00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 5: watching like the Chaine of Command unfold, challenge it successful

856
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 5: and then all of that. So it was really fun

857
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Speaker 5: because they're obviously Matt and Rick are trying to watch

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Speaker 5: the film to break it down, they're not necessarily looking

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Speaker 5: at how demonstrative EJ's being down there. So that was

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Speaker 5: one thing that's really fun is how much credit EJ

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Speaker 5: should get, not just for the play itself, but to

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00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 5: be sure he's relaying.

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Speaker 3: So the flip side to that you being down on

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Speaker 3: the sidelines. Me being up in the PA booth, is

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Speaker 3: I hear all the production chatter that we have And

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Speaker 3: credit goes to our tape people and Shelby Simpson, our

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Speaker 3: game day producer, for immediately getting the right angle that

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Speaker 3: replay up on the video board. Everybody in the stadium,

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Speaker 3: whether you're on the field or in the stands, knew

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Speaker 3: that was a fumble immediately.

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Speaker 1: Great job, really good.

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Speaker 4: Job on the game day crew is amazing at Lucas

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Speaker 4: Soil Stadium and big games await.

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Speaker 1: How about New Year's Eve game?

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's what we're talking about, going down to Atlanta,

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Speaker 4: which is coming up in a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Days, and it's going to be tough.

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Speaker 4: That's a team that's also looking to sneak into the

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Speaker 4: playoffs somehow, some way. But you're followed up by the

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Speaker 4: Raiders after that, and you're followed up by the Texans.

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Speaker 4: So big football waits for the Indianapolis Colts and for

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Speaker 4: the fan base. Got to keep it going when we

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Speaker 4: do have a home game. Because that crowd against the

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Speaker 4: Steelers made a slight difference, I'm sorry, it definitely helped

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Speaker 4: out the home team. So for JJ stank, if it's

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Speaker 4: for Lara Olverton, I am Jeffrey Gorman, will do this

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Speaker 4: week in and week out because the push.

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Speaker 1: Is coming for the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: By the way, happy holidays to both of you guys,

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Speaker 4: and have fun with your families and make a snowman

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Speaker 4: if you get a little snow on Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Which it doesn't look like that's gonna happen here.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: Maybe for our listeners in Iceland, Ho ho ho