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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danny L. Moody recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know these days, you know, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where to begin. You know, Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>decided to beckon Paul Manifort back to his campaign. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if that name sounds familiar, it's because that man is

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<v Speaker 1>a convicted felon who Donald Trump pardoned when he was president,

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<v Speaker 1>who had a bunch of ties to the Russians, who

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<v Speaker 1>did a number of illegal dealings, and is a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>liar and a criminal and a grifter. And Donald Trump's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you I need you back, right. Peter Navarro just reported

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<v Speaker 1>to jail for you know, being held in contempt of Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's going to serve four months. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>prison is not a deterrent for these people, is what

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<v Speaker 1>I realize. You know, you would think federal prison would

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<v Speaker 1>be the place that you don't want to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you look at like an Alan Weiselberg, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the former CFO of Trump Organization who worked under Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and his father. You know, he's now been back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth to Rikers, seventy year old man, this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be a deterrent for him to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>be under the thumb of Donald Trump. And so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if there was ever a case study on how broken

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<v Speaker 1>our justice system is, our legal system is, it is

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<v Speaker 1>the Trumps, right. It is the ability to evade, evade, dobade, delay, delay, delay,

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<v Speaker 1>and just wear out the public because you have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly the resources to be able to just muck up

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<v Speaker 1>our judicial system and no one will stand up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and just say no. Right. And of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this week we've learned Donald Trump is, you know, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>not as rich as he says that he is, because

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<v Speaker 1>he went to thirty different underwriters for his four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty million dollar bond in order to appeal you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the decision in the Tiss James case against him about

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<v Speaker 1>fraud and inflation of value, and he can't find anybody

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<v Speaker 1>to underwrite it, right, And apparently this multi billionaire doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have liquid assets enough and half a billion dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pony up to continue his appeal. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just, you know, you look at all of this

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just disgusting, and it's so exhausting to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to follow all of the delays, all of the bullshit,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the lies, like it's just exhausting. And meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about the tens of thousands of innocent black

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<v Speaker 1>and brown people who don't have the resources for appeals,

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<v Speaker 1>who are serving out jail sentences that are egregious, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for minimal bullshit, right like drugs. You know, Meanwhile, Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has harmed three hundred and thirty million plus people

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<v Speaker 1>and he's still walking around free. You know, it's enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make you want to throw your fucking hands above

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<v Speaker 1>your head and just say fuck it, like I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't care. You know, every day it's another assault by

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party to roll back fifty years of advancement

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<v Speaker 1>in progress so that white men like Donald Trump can

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<v Speaker 1>continue to you know, have their knee on the neck

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<v Speaker 1>of the little guy and say that they're tall. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just tired, you know. And their strategy is working. Their

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<v Speaker 1>flood the zone, throw every fucking thing at the wall

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<v Speaker 1>is working in a system where you have a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of radical right wing judges that are doing the bidding

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that put them there in the first

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<v Speaker 1>fucking place. And it's just nauseating, and it's like, when

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<v Speaker 1>will the people ever have a say? When will the

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<v Speaker 1>people actually win? You know, I don't know. I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that maybe it is just for Hollywood, that

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really exist, not in any sustainable, long term way,

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<v Speaker 1>right that you know, you could be lulled into complacency

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<v Speaker 1>about this country with two elections, you know, back to

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<v Speaker 1>back of a brilliant black man, and then be back

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<v Speaker 1>in the drudges of shit, you know, all over again,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where you don't even remember that that

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<v Speaker 1>win even happened. I just, you know, to today's conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with our friend doctor Jonathan Metzil. We talk about this exhaustion.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about you know, I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>move forward, you know, how to continue to pull ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>up when you just feel so horribly weighed down. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it's an important conversation to continue to have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I'll just offer to some of you

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm reading books right now like Burnout, the Secret

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<v Speaker 1>to Unlocking the stress cycle. I'm reading books like Laziness

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<v Speaker 1>does not Exist. I'm reading books like Broken Open, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading books like The Four Pivots, like I'm reading like

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<v Speaker 1>six seven different books right now as a way to

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<v Speaker 1>find some type of guidance on how to best deal

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<v Speaker 1>with this time of you know, continued bullshit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>just like we've never been here before, so how can

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<v Speaker 1>we use different tools to deal with the moment that

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<v Speaker 1>we currently find ourselves in. And I'm doing all of

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking research to try and figure it out. And I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I say to anyone that is an avid reader,

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<v Speaker 1>that is, you know, listening to other shows and whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>please do hit me up, send me a DM you know,

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<v Speaker 1>comment on Patreon and the comment section under you know

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<v Speaker 1>these episodes, like do tell me what it is you

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<v Speaker 1>know that you are doing and using as a resource,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that we can all use it. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next, my conversation with our friend doctor Jonathan Metzel. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that whenever we have the opportunity to sit

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<v Speaker 1>down with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, I

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<v Speaker 1>am always always thrilled Jonathan. I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have not been feeling my best. I have

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<v Speaker 1>not been sleeping well. I have felt very physically and

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally exhausted, and like I was saying before we started

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<v Speaker 1>recording for the first time. No, it's this is the

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<v Speaker 1>second time I took magnesium to go to sleep, and

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<v Speaker 1>it works like no sleep hangover like other you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sleep aids or anything like that. But this is a

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<v Speaker 1>sign of my fraying nerves.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I feel like we're gonna I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to assume anything. I just I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>state for the fact that like you and I are

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<v Speaker 2>effectively the same person and two bodies and so and

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<v Speaker 2>which we know is true. And and I think part

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<v Speaker 2>of that thing is like it's there's just this is

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<v Speaker 2>like geopolitical anxiety. Like Durkheim, the sociologist, used to call

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<v Speaker 2>this anomi like oh sense of despair that basically the

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<v Speaker 2>world is spending away from you that you have no

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<v Speaker 2>control or something like that. So there's a whole sociological

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<v Speaker 2>literature which is basically about people like we're in right now,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of the fascism for play stage of

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<v Speaker 2>the world, which is it's not so much that like

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<v Speaker 2>bad stuff per se totally is one hundred percent happening

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<v Speaker 2>right now, but you can see everybody like it's like

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<v Speaker 2>that feeling of being the only person who sees the

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<v Speaker 2>monster in a scary movie all the time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that's kind of what it feels like for

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<v Speaker 2>people who like are worried about the direction. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>there's this sense of like people you know telling you that, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to vote, or the candidates are the same,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, they really like, I mean credit to

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<v Speaker 2>the RFK Junior campaign, they're doing a great social media game,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're like, oh, yeah, you know, maybe vaccines are

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<v Speaker 2>really you know, I probably got cavities in junior high

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<v Speaker 2>because of my vaccines or something like that. People are

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<v Speaker 2>just not reasonable right now, and so there's this sense

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of where is this all going That to

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<v Speaker 2>me is just incredibly physiologically personally unsettling, Like you can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of relax for a minute, but you can't relax

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that like we were talking about before.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember last week we talked about like go go back

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<v Speaker 2>to yourself before the pandemic, where you know, all the bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff, right, the questions that you asked me right right,

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<v Speaker 1>right right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so in a way like now we're we're in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of it, Like there's something really unsettling about change,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's also you know, I'm sure there's like noise

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<v Speaker 2>around our apartments and all these other reasons for insomnia.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now it's just kind of like this sense

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<v Speaker 2>of I feel like it's like if you had to

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<v Speaker 2>do an algebraic calculation of what it feels like right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Like here's the line and it's one over the Obama

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<v Speaker 2>Hope poster. Remember, like the Hope poster where we were

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<v Speaker 2>all on the same team. Yes, yes, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>people used to say, like the invisible hand of Obama,

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<v Speaker 2>like we're all like being taken care of, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>all we were out strategizing those guys. So hope wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just like hope about like the future. It was hope

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<v Speaker 2>about like being on a team that was really on

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<v Speaker 2>the ball in terms of like you know, they they

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<v Speaker 2>were out thinking everybody. And now, like even the people

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<v Speaker 2>who were telling us before Biden was going to win,

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<v Speaker 2>like Mark what's his name, the trial lawyer who does

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<v Speaker 2>the cases. I watched him on MSNBC the other day

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<v Speaker 2>and he was the guy before who was like, we

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<v Speaker 2>got this, Biden is not going to lose. Everybody, calm down,

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<v Speaker 2>and he looked like he was doing a hostage video

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody. So people, I think are just people are

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<v Speaker 2>just nervous right now, and the question is like how

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<v Speaker 2>do we how do we get back to a place

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<v Speaker 2>like of solidity or it's really a place of strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right You're talking and I'm you know, and I'm listening

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<v Speaker 1>to you, and I'm thinking about really, Jonathan, like all

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<v Speaker 1>of the different versions of ourselves that we've gone through

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty sixteen, right, Like there have been and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that one of the reasons why we are so

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<v Speaker 1>exhausted is because we have lived like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe five different lives since twenty sixteen. Right, Like, there

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<v Speaker 1>was the life that you were living as Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was running against Hillary Clinton, and you still had that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feeling of the Obama impossibility. We can make

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<v Speaker 1>this happen, you know, momentum, There's no way we elect

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<v Speaker 1>this guy following you know, the first black president that

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<v Speaker 1>the world loved, Like that just doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that happens, then there's like this state of shock.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're living in like your shell shocked self, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what is this reality that I'm in. I can't trust

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<v Speaker 1>this country that I once trusted to be in this

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<v Speaker 1>line of progression that it's been for my entire life, right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>things have always gotten better. Maybe they've backslid in some areas,

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<v Speaker 1>but by virtue of the perspective that I have as

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, you know, middle class in America with more

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<v Speaker 1>than enough, and so I'm recognizing the place that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>coming from. Things have always gotten better in my universe

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<v Speaker 1>and world. And then they backslide. Then we go into

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<v Speaker 1>a pandemic. Everything is just fucked up. Then we've lived,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, within the pandemic time at least three

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<v Speaker 1>different lives in that time, and then we're in the

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<v Speaker 1>now place. And then now is I can't trust anything

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<v Speaker 1>around me at any moment. Another pandemic could erupt at

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<v Speaker 1>any moment, like another war can be announced at any moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just this sense of consistently waiting not just

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<v Speaker 1>for the other shoe to drop, but like the bomb

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<v Speaker 1>that you're waiting for figuratively and literally to drop here.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other part of it, I think is like

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<v Speaker 2>the institutional story, which is like even when twenty sixteen happened,

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<v Speaker 2>at least we had like the institutions still in place.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it feels like that there's just been such

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<v Speaker 2>a sustained war on like the infrastructure. That part of

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<v Speaker 2>that anxiety is like there's just there's no fail safe

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<v Speaker 2>in a way right now is I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to process like why we feel this way, And

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<v Speaker 2>part of this thing is that it's like there's no

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<v Speaker 2>fail safe to how this is feeling right because the

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<v Speaker 2>institutions that you thought, like even when Trump was doing

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<v Speaker 2>all this crazy shit the first time, it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, oh, the CDC is going to stand up

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<v Speaker 2>to him and that whatever, and you know now they're

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<v Speaker 2>coming in with like a really strategic, coherent plan that

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<v Speaker 2>every everything is going to be politicized if this happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's just the checks and balances don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I want to I would take checks or balances

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need. I just give me one even right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't feel like there's that. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know here's I mean. So let me just say,

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<v Speaker 2>like I understand every time you send a TikTok out

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<v Speaker 2>into the wilderness, I feel it also like you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand I reach anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Know I So I want you to know like I'm here,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've got a lighter and I'm holding it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like swaying and stuff like that. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I hear you first, let me say, but but

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the question is like what can we do

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<v Speaker 2>that is not howling, which is what we're doing now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're howling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know, like, and so is there something that could

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<v Speaker 2>happen between now and whenever? They could like change the narrative,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, is there some political thing that could happen?

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<v Speaker 2>For example, is there some going on the offense? Is

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<v Speaker 2>there something that Democrats could do? I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>about this a lot, like I do feel like part

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<v Speaker 2>of the this is just kind of the part of

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<v Speaker 2>the buying we're in right now, is that we just

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<v Speaker 2>have like if you watch like liberal television, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety percent of it is about Trump, right, It's about

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<v Speaker 2>bad stuff Trump did. And it's because like we have

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<v Speaker 2>a defensive game, but we don't really have an offensive game,

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<v Speaker 2>like like, oh, here's some cool things Biden did, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what are Biden's picks for the NCAA tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>Or but it doesn't The thing is like none of

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<v Speaker 1>like because I am not on the conservative like sphere, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't get any of the news that they get.

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<v Speaker 1>I am in somehow, you know, I am in progressive

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<v Speaker 1>news funnels, and I am in whatever is considered like mainstream.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality is is that no one cares about the

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<v Speaker 1>things that Biden is doing. Well, they don't care mainstream media,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not even about the narrative that's coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of the White House. Because I think, I honestly will

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<v Speaker 1>say that I think that they are trying right, like

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<v Speaker 1>it comes across my social media, but mainstream media doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and and they're you know there, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream media is like hanging on the lip of the

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<v Speaker 2>black hole as every thing gets sucked into the void

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I mean we know this because we know

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<v Speaker 2>the people. But so it's it's it's hard because but

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<v Speaker 2>the other issue, let's just be honest, is Biden is

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<v Speaker 2>not like Newsworthy in the way that you know Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump speaks in provocative, moronic social media clips or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and so you know, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what we have, right but Biden and Biden is running

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<v Speaker 2>the country. So it's pretty exhausting too, but it is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it is this is what we got. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is what we got so we got to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But I love that David Sedaris quote that

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<v Speaker 2>you posted the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, family, I'm like, who did I even see?

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<v Speaker 1>I stole it from a friend of mine who had

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<v Speaker 1>posted it, and I was just like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is amazing. I want to be so

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<v Speaker 1>folks know what we're uh, what we're talking about. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me pull it up because it was so poignant. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's folks, here's the quote by David Sadaris says, quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of being on a plane. The flight attendant

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<v Speaker 1>comes down the aisle with her food cart and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>parks it beside my seat. Can I interest you in

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<v Speaker 1>the chicken? She asks? Or would you prefer the platter

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<v Speaker 1>of shit with bits of broken glass in it? To

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<v Speaker 1>be undecided in this election is to pause for a

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<v Speaker 1>moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so I mean, it's so perfect because this is what

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<v Speaker 1>Americans are doing right now. It's like Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>telling you everything. There is nothing that is a secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Project twenty twenty five is right on the Heritage Foundation's website.

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<v Speaker 1>They are telling you that they're coming for social entitlements,

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<v Speaker 1>they're telling you that they are coming for a national

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<v Speaker 1>abortion band for IVF. They're telling you that they are

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<v Speaker 1>getting rid of anything that has to do with Dee

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<v Speaker 1>and I. They are telling you like every single thing

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<v Speaker 1>that they are doing. They are rolling out in cases

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<v Speaker 1>and in peatrie dishes like Texas and Florida, Alabama and

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<v Speaker 1>what have you. And America is like, hmm, whoa you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Biden stutters, yeah, well, but I mean, here's my problem

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<v Speaker 2>with the way, not you and I formulated, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>being formulated more broadly. The scariest part of this is

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<v Speaker 2>that people want Trump. Like I interview a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like it's not like, oh there, some people

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<v Speaker 2>are sleepwalking. The people we know are sleepwalking. But other

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<v Speaker 2>people really want Trump. Like what Trump is saying is

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<v Speaker 2>what they want. They want They want that world, which

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<v Speaker 2>is to me a world. And I don't think people

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<v Speaker 2>realize quite how depressing it is, you know, hunting down

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<v Speaker 2>your enemies and not having freedom and looking over your shoulder.

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<v Speaker 2>And will you be able to get your driver's license renewed?

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<v Speaker 2>Will you able to get through airport security? Can you travel?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you work? You know? What ideological tests are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to take to prove yourself. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get spied on by your neighbors. Like, we know

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<v Speaker 2>how this works because it's happened to many other countries,

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<v Speaker 2>not ours. It's not very fun and it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>great way to live, but a lot of people want

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<v Speaker 2>that life. They want like dad in control and punishing

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<v Speaker 2>their enemies and all that kind of stuff. Those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think, more power to you if that's the

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<v Speaker 2>world you want. But the thing the scarier part for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the audience you're talking to are like

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<v Speaker 2>our friends who are like zoned out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if everybody just votes for Biden, who've from last time,

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<v Speaker 2>We're fine, We're there, you know, we're fine. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>really the people who are like being distracted and don't

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<v Speaker 2>see the David Sadaris binarya in.

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<v Speaker 1>A way, if you're not seeing the David Sadaris scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not seeing that picture, then you're just not

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention. And if you're not paying attention, then I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what else to do, right, And that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of why I posted the video that I did this

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<v Speaker 1>week of me just like exasperated because if you're at

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<v Speaker 1>a place, and here's the thing, Like I get where

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<v Speaker 1>people are as it pertains to Israel and Gaza. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I am in that same place. But if, for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever fucking reason, you think that things are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get better for people in Gaza, for the Palestinians as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole, if Donald Trump becomes president, then you really

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the fuck you were talking about. Right

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<v Speaker 1>then you really have no idea for an issue that

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<v Speaker 1>you may have woken up to six months ago. You

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<v Speaker 1>really have no idea like that you are holding not

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<v Speaker 1>only your life, but their lives in your hand with

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<v Speaker 1>this singular vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I follow the Israeli media very closely,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have a lot of collaborators in Israel and

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, relatives and stuff like that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can just tell you the Israeli right wants Trump to

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<v Speaker 2>win so that they can wipe everybody out. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Israeli right are Trump supporters. And so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you in so so many ways. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we need I guess, answer my own question,

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<v Speaker 2>because we just have five minutes left. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>need we need like a common cause, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think democracy might be abstract. I don't know, we

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<v Speaker 2>need some kind of we need some way to remind

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves we're all on the same team. Like, I just

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<v Speaker 2>think losing democracy is very abstract for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know to parts of the issue is

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<v Speaker 2>like how can we how can we concretize being on

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<v Speaker 2>the same team in a way? I mean, I personally

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<v Speaker 2>have thoughts about how I plan to go about this,

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<v Speaker 2>which maybe we can talk about next week. I personally

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the anti DEI stuff has actually gone way

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<v Speaker 2>too far. It's actually, yeah, it's getting to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where like you're either on one side of it or

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the other. But it's getting to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where it just is really really egregious what they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Like I'm you know, let's talk next week

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<v Speaker 2>about this what they're trying to do. There's a bill

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<v Speaker 2>today to outlaw like not just DEI and met education,

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<v Speaker 2>but like the ability of medical centers to treat low

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<v Speaker 2>income people. Basically, Like it's getting to the point of insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think we need, like we need some

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<v Speaker 2>concrete common causes that remind everybody why we're on this

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<v Speaker 2>side of this side something something like that. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, that's that's that's my thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, again, everyone in this country doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>vote who is eligible to vote. A majority of people

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<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, politics has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. It is not for a lack of trying

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<v Speaker 1>and articulation imagination that there are people who just don't

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<v Speaker 1>care and are never going to care. Right. There are

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<v Speaker 1>people that are interviewed that think that the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>overturned Roe v. Wade because of Joe Biden, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>they have absolutely no idea how government works and have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea who installed the last three justices. When Hillary

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton was very clearly articulating that the Supreme Court hangs

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<v Speaker 1>in the balance with the twenty sixteen election, everyone shrugged

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<v Speaker 1>and said, oh, I can't hear you because you're a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and you shriek. Right. So it's like, I'm at the

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<v Speaker 1>point where I do believe that forty percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>country wants an authoritarian. I do believe that forty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the country thinks that somehow they will be better

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<v Speaker 1>off even though over the four years of Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>nothing in their life changed. They just had somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>hated the same people as they did, and to all

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<v Speaker 1>of the research and work that you've done, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they want. They don't actually want their life to change.

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<v Speaker 2>But also like, he is promising people power, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>just that's my frustration now.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only people that get power with an authoritarian

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<v Speaker 1>is the authoritarian.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, I know that I'm saying he's promising

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<v Speaker 2>them power in ways that they that they resonate with.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but again, our job now is to make

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<v Speaker 2>that concrete for people, like, here's exactly what it'll mean

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<v Speaker 2>for your life, Like, it can't be. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>losing democracy is really abstract.

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<v Speaker 1>That's see. This is the only place that you and

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<v Speaker 1>I differ, which is that I don't think that losing

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<v Speaker 1>democracy is that abstract. Right, in twenty twenty one, half

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<v Speaker 1>the population in this country had bodily autonomy. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>do not. How fucking more concrete do you need it

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<v Speaker 1>to get it?

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<v Speaker 2>I just think we need to keep making it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you basically you need to scare the shit out

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<v Speaker 2>of people about what's coming. I'm terrified you and I

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<v Speaker 2>are taking you take magnesium. Yeah, I'm gonna try magnesium tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, it works. Yeah, Oh, my friend Jonathan as always

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you making the time for Woke a f And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you'll start dolling up prescriptions. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have every episode the.

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<v Speaker 2>Helpful beside the state looking over my shoulder for every

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<v Speaker 2>case and locking up me probably in all my patients.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be great for business.

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<v Speaker 1>So other than that, great for business. See you next week,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Take everybody, keep living the dream.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it for me today. Dear friends on wok

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<v Speaker 1>f as always power to the people and to all

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<v Speaker 1>the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fun