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Speaker 2: Iron Eagle was on the call at the Garden last
Speaker 2: night with Steph Curry and the Warriors, who have another
Speaker 2: game in New York. They play Brooklyn tomorrow night, then
Speaker 2: they go home for a seven game homestand I mean
Speaker 2: they start to put together a great run here and
Speaker 2: with Jimmy Butler. Now granted you're looking at teams saying
Speaker 2: when are you peaking? If you're Golden State, you'll peak
Speaker 2: whenever you can peak, because at the All Star break
Speaker 2: or around Christmas, we're like, what's going to happen with
Speaker 2: this team? Same with the Lakers. The Lakers are playing great.
Speaker 2: They roughed up inferior Pelican team. Although Zion played really
Speaker 2: well last night. He's played really well in the last month,
Speaker 2: but small sample size, but still, if you're the Pelicans,
Speaker 2: and you're looking at Zion Whims and I don't see
Speaker 2: him as a career Pelican. I don't know if his
Speaker 2: next contract would be in New Orleans. It doesn't feel
Speaker 2: that way, but I wonder where that franchise is headed.
Speaker 2: But with the Lakers, they could be headed to the
Speaker 2: NBA Finals, and you know, I wish they would have
Speaker 2: a bigger guy. I wish they had a big man.
Speaker 2: I mean, the thunder are going to be formidable. It's
Speaker 2: a very deep team. You're going to have a couple
Speaker 2: of those matchups where you go that team is a
Speaker 2: whole lot better. Because we tend to focus shows like this,
Speaker 2: the networks they focus on they're top heavy on a
Speaker 2: couple of teams. Therefore, that's why when you saw Minnesota,
Speaker 2: you know, like man, Minnesota is a good team going
Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals. Yes, But sometimes, like the Celtics,
Speaker 2: we sort of forgot about the Celtics because it's been
Speaker 2: a lot of love for the Cleveland Cavaliers. Now, do
Speaker 2: you believe in Cleveland when there's a seven game series,
Speaker 2: when you have to win a game on the road,
Speaker 2: Because that's what it's going to come down to. Boston's
Speaker 2: already proven this. Boston to me, should be the favorites
Speaker 2: to go back in either conference, but they're not. But
Speaker 2: I look at Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City's going to have
Speaker 2: one of those moments where SGA has to act.
Speaker 3: Like the MVP.
Speaker 2: Or somebody else has to. Because you can look back
Speaker 2: when Denver won the title, Joker was great, but Jamal
Speaker 2: Murray had one of those coming out parties where people
Speaker 2: forgot how good he could be. And they had they
Speaker 2: had depth, they had a really good bench. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's formulaic in my opinion, it's really rare when you go, boy,
Speaker 2: they won and they didn't check these boxes there. You
Speaker 2: got to play defense, You got to have a guy
Speaker 2: that you can go to when the game is on
Speaker 2: the lone and he doesn't melt. You got to win
Speaker 2: a game that maybe you're not supposed to win. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of different things, a lot of different
Speaker 2: factors that go into this. But I think the Lakers
Speaker 2: have the elements to be able to go back and
Speaker 2: win a championship. I truly feel that. But it comes
Speaker 2: down to Lebron and Luca. Luca and Lebron. Now everybody
Speaker 2: else has to figure out their roles because they didn't
Speaker 2: have this before. Luca and Lebron ball dominant. Now what's
Speaker 2: it mean for the other players? And while you probably
Speaker 2: are saying, well, I got to do a stand around
Speaker 2: and wait for them to throw you the ball, No,
Speaker 2: it's not as easy as that. Like you'll you'll have
Speaker 2: a role, and your role might be different than it was.
Speaker 2: And I think JJ Reddick's done a really good job
Speaker 2: with that and I think defining roles.
Speaker 3: So it's not open to interpretation.
Speaker 2: But those two, Like if I say, give me the
Speaker 2: best duo in the NBA right now, Jalen Brown, Jason
Speaker 2: Tatum certainly should come to mind. Joker, Jamal Murray, Jimmy Butler,
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, Like, where does Lebron and Luca rank of
Speaker 2: the best duos in the NBA? And I would put
Speaker 2: them as the best duo in the NBA because their
Speaker 2: battle Lebron is battle tested. There's nothing that is going
Speaker 2: to come up where he's going to go. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen that before. And he might be, you know, an
Speaker 2: influential figure when Luca. When Luca ends his career, he
Speaker 2: may look back and say, thank god, I got.
Speaker 3: Traded to the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Because I was around Lebron for X number of years,
Speaker 2: I got to see a professional and it's not to
Speaker 2: say And there was this smear campaign with Luca because
Speaker 2: you know the MAVs. Then there was a story that
Speaker 2: came out that hey, you know what, we also wanted
Speaker 2: to know if Minnesota wanted to swap Anthony Edwards for
Speaker 2: Luca Donchets, which I still go back to. If they
Speaker 2: called me and they all for Luca, I go, why
Speaker 2: are you offering him?
Speaker 3: Why? Why? And maybe there's more to the story.
Speaker 2: There probably is more to the story, but that'd be
Speaker 2: the first thing I'd say, Wait, is this a trick question?
Speaker 3: Like why do you want to get rid of this guy?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: That would raise eyebrows, But you know, the Lakers probably thought,
Speaker 2: if it's about conditioning, we got a guy who can
Speaker 2: and not babysit. But certainly Mentor and I think you're
Speaker 2: seeing that, like Luca injured his calf on Christmas Day,
Speaker 2: there was no real rush to get him back, or
Speaker 2: didn't feel like there was a real rush. Now, I
Speaker 2: don't know if anybody's brought up his calf, is that
Speaker 2: you know, does he have to sit down? Does minutes
Speaker 2: restriction because of his calf. And then you look at
Speaker 2: the MAVs now so Kyrie's out. I think they're going
Speaker 2: to shut down Anthony Davis. There's no reason to play him,
Speaker 2: play for a draft pick. But you know, you start
Speaker 2: to look at some of these teams that got better
Speaker 2: at the trade deadline, and Golden State is a different
Speaker 2: team because Jimmy Butler can compliment Draymond Green from the
Speaker 2: perspective of I can do all the little things. Steph
Speaker 2: can be Steph. I can I take care of the ball.
Speaker 2: You know, Golden State used to be top heavy with turnovers.
Speaker 2: You know, Jimmy Butler takes care of the ball. He
Speaker 2: goes to the free throw line, he plays really good defense.
Speaker 2: So you combine that, now you got to now it's
Speaker 2: a different team, a different feel to them.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: See, sometimes you're so good that nobody's really threatening you,
Speaker 2: and then you get into that first tough series and
Speaker 2: that's when you can be surprised. I hope SGA because
Speaker 2: he's going to win the MVP. He shouldn't, but he's
Speaker 2: going to. I hope he has a great playoff run
Speaker 2: because we always do this. Yeah, never should have won
Speaker 2: the MVP. Yeah, ask Lamar Jackson. No, he was great
Speaker 2: during SGA has been incredible during the regular season. But
Speaker 2: Joker's numbers are better than when he won the MVPs.
Speaker 2: It's scary. Here's a pass first guy who's averaging twenty
Speaker 2: nine again. If he stopped passing, nobody average. And I
Speaker 2: know there are a lot of guys averaging twenty nine,
Speaker 2: thirty thirty one. You know it's guys are scoring points,
Speaker 2: but guys aren't putting up assist numbers like he is.
Speaker 2: He's averaging a triple double. Now I know that we're
Speaker 2: numb to it. Not a big deal anymore, but it
Speaker 2: should be because of the assist numbers. You have a
Speaker 2: seven foot guy who's averaging what eleven assists again, twelve rebounds,
Speaker 2: twenty nine points. He shoots great from three point right now,
Speaker 2: his numbers are better. He shoots forty four percent from
Speaker 2: three point range. It's the best he's ever shot. But
Speaker 2: I think there is voter fatigue. I think it's real.
Speaker 2: And this is where the get off my lawn guy
Speaker 2: comes out because he doesn't want somebody to get more
Speaker 2: MVPs than Well, he's not better than Larry Bird. He
Speaker 2: can't have more MVPs than Larry. He can, Yeah, he can.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not Joker's fault. Bird got hurt in fact.
Speaker 3: On this date.
Speaker 2: I think back in the eighties, didn't he have a
Speaker 2: fusion surgery for his back, Yes, Martin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was the big thing with Joke
Speaker 4: is not winning his third straight MVP. Lebron James and
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan neither of them won through straight MVPs, and
Speaker 4: they're thinking to themselves, those two didn't win through straight MVPs.
Speaker 4: There's no way this kind he can win through straight MVPs.
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety three, Larry Bird undergo back fusion surgery on
Speaker 2: this day and he just couldn't stay healthy and the
Speaker 2: way he played, couldn't stay healthy. But if you said
Speaker 2: at age thirty you could have Larry or Lebron at
Speaker 2: age thirty, I would have taken Larry over Lebron. Now,
Speaker 2: over the length of the career, certainly you're taking Lebron.
Speaker 2: But it's how great were you when you were great?
Speaker 2: That's always fun when you look at a window and
Speaker 2: you go, yeah, well you know it was you know,
Speaker 2: you always had magic with Larry and vice versa. But
Speaker 2: there were times when they had those windows. You know
Speaker 2: what magic did is rookie year. I mean it was spectacular.
Speaker 2: You go from a national championship to an NBA championship.
Speaker 2: They'd never seen anything like that. But that's the fun
Speaker 2: part of it, where you're seeing these players and I
Speaker 2: hold on for dear life with Durant Lebron in steadf.
Speaker 2: Now there's a new wave coming. But this opportunity, as
Speaker 2: I said during the Olympics, when I watched them on
Speaker 2: the floor, you had all this young talent on the
Speaker 2: bench and I was I'm not going to say it
Speaker 2: was emotional, but it was really rewarding for me to
Speaker 2: watch them as great as they are in that moment.
Speaker 2: Those were the guys Steve Kerr wanted on the floor
Speaker 2: with the ball and what a what a tribute a
Speaker 2: testament to them when you have all this young talent
Speaker 2: and it's not about who's got the talent, it's those
Speaker 2: guys know what they're doing when they need to do it.
Speaker 2: And Steph you can look like Steph has had great
Speaker 2: moments in his career, Like where does the Olympics fit
Speaker 2: in with great moments in his career? Because that is
Speaker 2: global We talk about the NBA being global. That was
Speaker 2: truly global. It's live worldwide, and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you're learning curse words in French. You know, like, wow,
Speaker 2: they're mad at him.
Speaker 3: He was so great, so great.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Pulling that last five minute stretch by Curry and the Olympics,
Speaker 6: it was dizzying you're watching in it. It felt like
Speaker 6: that's not what human beings do. He's the only human
Speaker 6: who could have done that.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, and he had he had one shot where
Speaker 2: you go, I don't know how he got that shot off.
Speaker 2: I have no idea but to be able to see that,
Speaker 2: and you know, you miss him. I mean I miss
Speaker 2: seeing Bird play. I miss seeing Magic play certainly. My
Speaker 2: you know all these great players because you take it
Speaker 2: for granted and then all of a sudden, it's gone,
Speaker 2: It's done.
Speaker 3: Yeah man, Yeah, Marvin.
Speaker 4: Is nineteen eighty six, Larry Bird one of the greatest
Speaker 4: players you've ever seen, like just that one year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like in real time, did you guys know what you
Speaker 4: guys were witnessing with Magic and Bird? Like in real time?
Speaker 4: I know there wasn't all these sports shows and debate
Speaker 4: shows and stuff like that, but did you guys know
Speaker 4: in eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven, like these guys
Speaker 4: are two of the greatest that have ever done it.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because it felt like there was really a
Speaker 2: there were two great players, transcendent players, and then there
Speaker 2: were really good players underneath Bird and Magic. But what
Speaker 2: Larry did back to back to back and I'm curious,
Speaker 2: Bill Simmons documentary on the Celtics looking back on that,
Speaker 2: I mean, Larry's the baddest guy on the planet. He
Speaker 2: was and brought up interesting debates between races where you know,
Speaker 2: Magic's better, No, Larry's better. Spike Lee has this in
Speaker 2: one of his movies, might have been Crooklyn or one
Speaker 2: of those where they're arguing over you know, Larry Bird
Speaker 2: or Magic Johnson. You did have those discussions, and they
Speaker 2: would have that now on first take or any of
Speaker 2: these other shows, like who's better Magic Larry Now? And
Speaker 2: it was depending on the week or the month or
Speaker 2: the year, you could say, no, it's Magic, No, it's Larry.
Speaker 2: But Larry had a run there that you'd be hard
Speaker 2: pressed to find somebody who was better than him over
Speaker 2: a three year period. Statistically, it might you could find people,
Speaker 2: but that's where you saw great great players, and the
Speaker 2: Celtics were a running team back then. You wouldn't think
Speaker 2: that McHale and Parrish and Bird, even DJ Dan Danny
Speaker 2: Ainge's probably the best athlete in the starting five.
Speaker 3: But they ran. They had fast breaks, Larry out on
Speaker 3: the break. You're like, I thought, that's magic. That's what
Speaker 3: they did, yes, bawling.
Speaker 6: When they were rookies, Larry Bird won Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 6: Magic finished second. Nobody else in the league got to vote.
Speaker 6: Larry got sixty three votes, Magic got three. Not one
Speaker 6: other player got a Rookie of the Year vote. Another
Speaker 6: thing for Larry Bird, starting with age twenty four to
Speaker 6: thirty two, he either finished first, second, or third in
Speaker 6: the MVP voting.
Speaker 2: But I don't remember voter fatigue. Now, I wasn't a
Speaker 2: voter back then, but I did go. I did see
Speaker 2: all three of Larry's championships, and I got to go
Speaker 2: to the guard. I was there when Magic hit the skyhook.
Speaker 2: You know he was going to win another one. But
Speaker 2: I I just remember at that time that was some great,
Speaker 2: great basketball, and they were loaded.
Speaker 3: Both of those teams.
Speaker 2: You know, you look at the Laker team and coming
Speaker 2: off the bench, you know, that that wasn't a negative.
Speaker 2: Bob McAdoo was one of my favorite players. You know,
Speaker 2: you just it was fun, fun basketball, But they both moved.
Speaker 2: It wasn't you know, sort of half court offense, even
Speaker 2: though they could play that as well.
Speaker 3: All right, taking a trip down memory lane.
Speaker 2: We're living in the let's go I know, I know,
Speaker 2: a long winded way of saying, appreciate Lebron and Steph
Speaker 2: and Katie Katie. Last night and the Suns came back
Speaker 2: to beat the Clippers. I think they were down what
Speaker 2: fifteen or nineteen going in the final quarter. You know,
Speaker 2: three of the greatest players scores of all time right
Speaker 2: in front of us.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Mark, three generational players in the same generation.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they are all doing it differently, all do
Speaker 2: it differently.
Speaker 3: All right, take a break.
Speaker 2: Iron Eagle was on the call with Steph Curry at
Speaker 2: the Garden and we'll talk to him about that experience
Speaker 2: last night. More phone calls as well. We'll take a
Speaker 2: break back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Speaker 2: I still have been seeing the led Zeppelin movie. It's
Speaker 2: in movie theaters now. Now I should see it like
Speaker 2: an Imax theater to be able to see that. One
Speaker 2: of my favorite bands, probably my favorite band growing up.
Speaker 2: Steph Curry last night leading the Golden State Warriors to
Speaker 2: another win. They play Brooklyn tomorrow night, then a seven
Speaker 2: game homestand after that. Here is Steph on the magic
Speaker 2: of playing at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 5: This massive square garden. It speaks for itself.
Speaker 8: This is a place that brings it just naturally has great, unique,
Speaker 8: authentic basketball energy, and like the fans are unreal, like
Speaker 8: the Who's who a celebrity rolling on that, but just
Speaker 8: everybody's anticipating great basketball. And from my first game here
Speaker 8: in college to now, I guess always delivered. So H
Speaker 8: and for us on the Western Conference, we'll only get
Speaker 8: one chance here and I'm trying to take to make
Speaker 8: the most of it.
Speaker 2: And they did. Iron Eagle was on the call t
Speaker 2: NT Nicks Warriors. What is it about the garden and
Speaker 2: why is it different?
Speaker 9: There is a palpable buzz before the game even starts,
Speaker 9: and it's nothing that's being pumped through the speakers. It's
Speaker 9: not artificial in any way. It's real. There is something
Speaker 9: special and unique about it. Even during the lean years,
Speaker 9: you would go into the garden and maybe just the
Speaker 9: way the arena in captures the sound, it just bounces
Speaker 9: in a certain manner, so as the game was about
Speaker 9: to get going, you could feel it. You could feel
Speaker 9: that that energy. It's tangible and I know what Steph
Speaker 9: is saying. It is special for him, and he makes
Speaker 9: it even more special when he's there because it creates
Speaker 9: an added layer of electricity.
Speaker 3: How do you know when you've done a good job
Speaker 3: doing a game?
Speaker 9: I know, I know if I've covered the storylines. I
Speaker 9: know if I've met the moment. I know if I've
Speaker 9: hit the right beats. I think it's based on just
Speaker 9: doing so many games. There's a way to view it.
Speaker 9: For me, the amount of games that I do helps
Speaker 9: me because it keeps me in that mindset.
Speaker 5: It keeps me locked in.
Speaker 9: I don't ever drop off because I'm not off for
Speaker 9: three weeks and then I got to get back into it.
Speaker 9: I'm doing sometimes five games in a week, and there's
Speaker 9: a certain standard that comes with that. You want to
Speaker 9: do your best. It doesn't matter if it's a Wednesday
Speaker 9: night for a local Nets Washington game, or a Thursday
Speaker 9: night for a Big Lakers Boston game, or a Sunday
Speaker 9: in the NFL, or a Thursday night on the radio,
Speaker 9: it doesn't matter. You just get to a point where
Speaker 9: you can gauge it in the moment if you're doing
Speaker 9: your job correctly and you're hitting all the high notes.
Speaker 2: I still find it interesting that when a player or
Speaker 2: team plays New York, they're playing the Garden. They're not
Speaker 2: playing the Knicks. Yeah, they're playing the Garden. I don't
Speaker 2: know if we do that at any other venue or
Speaker 2: any other sport. Can you think of anything where you
Speaker 2: go now it used to be the Garden, Boston Garden, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, then it became like the Fleet Center and
Speaker 2: TD Bank and so kind of lost a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know, playing the Crypt, maybe the Forum. Yeah, great
Speaker 2: Western form. But I don't know if there's any like Fenway.
Speaker 2: You don't say, oh, you're playing Fenway, you're playing the
Speaker 2: Red Sox. Even Yankee Stadium is not the original Yankee Stadium,
Speaker 2: even though the Garden's not the original Garden. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you're playing the Garden as opposed to it it's like
Speaker 2: you're a musical group.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're on tour and then we play the Garden.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Billy Joel is no longer doing it once a month,
Speaker 9: But you're right, Billy Joel is playing the Garden and
Speaker 9: the Warriors were playing the Garden. I don't know if
Speaker 9: it's an extension of Broadway in some way that you're
Speaker 9: in New York and it's this historic venue. You're right
Speaker 9: about the ever changing names. That is a part of
Speaker 9: it that chips away at the mystique a bit. I
Speaker 9: remember I did a game years ago NFL on CBS
Speaker 9: game in Oakland, and at that point it was a
Speaker 9: revolving of names. And literally, I'm not exaggerating. Dan fifteen
Speaker 9: minutes before kickoff, someone I'm not sure if they were
Speaker 9: affiliated with the Raiders or the state. They walk in,
Speaker 9: they hand me a sheet of paper and they say, hey,
Speaker 9: just to let you know we're going by this now.
Speaker 9: Fifteen minutes before the game, I go theod dot co
Speaker 9: what is this? And that takes away from from the
Speaker 9: sense of place and the sense of history.
Speaker 5: You're right, even with the Boston Garden.
Speaker 9: Once they went down that road, the Boston Garden became
Speaker 9: a thing of the past, and now you've got to
Speaker 9: rack your brain and say, what.
Speaker 5: Is it now? Is it TD Garden?
Speaker 9: It's still Madison Square Garden, named after by the way,
Speaker 9: James Madison, the former president. That was the connection. I
Speaker 9: was going to use that over the weekend in regards
Speaker 9: to the Saint John's Seed Hall game and make the
Speaker 9: point that Bill Raftery was actually classmates with James and
Speaker 9: that he knew him quite well.
Speaker 5: But we never got there.
Speaker 2: Who is more unexplainable? Steph Curry's successor Lebron's Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, he was the number seven pick in the draft.
Speaker 2: There were major questions as to whether or not his
Speaker 2: style and approach would translate.
Speaker 5: To the NBA.
Speaker 9: Would he get his shot off, Like, think about that
Speaker 9: for a moment. If we go back and check the
Speaker 9: scouting reports, it would say great three point shooter, creative
Speaker 9: offensive player. But will the NBA be too physical for him?
Speaker 9: Is he big enough to handle the wear and tear
Speaker 9: of the NBA. Those were questions coming out of Davidson.
Speaker 9: That was the other part of it. He was coming
Speaker 9: out of Davidson. He was not coming out of Duke.
Speaker 9: His brother had gone from Liberty to Duke. So you
Speaker 9: saw him on a bigger stage and thought, Okay, he
Speaker 9: can do it, it'll translate.
Speaker 5: And obviously he's had a nice career.
Speaker 9: Steph has had an all time career, and I think
Speaker 9: at this stage the rejuvenation that we're seeing with Jimmy
Speaker 9: Butler now on the team, Dan, I'm sensing that there's
Speaker 9: even a greater appreciation for Steph than ever before. Because
Speaker 9: as you see these incredible athletes hit the NBA, these
Speaker 9: physical specimens, these adonises, Steph, it just feels like he
Speaker 9: could be anybody. And he's obviously a terrific athlete and
Speaker 9: he's in great shape, but he would blend in if
Speaker 9: he didn't know who he was, and that's part of
Speaker 9: the charm of it.
Speaker 5: This guy is.
Speaker 9: Doing it in a manner that I don't know if
Speaker 9: we're gonna see it again the way he does it.
Speaker 9: And just again Dan my experience, they're playing in Brooklyn,
Speaker 9: so I'm going to see this for the second time
Speaker 9: this week. I just happened to walk out onto the
Speaker 9: court of my broadcast location as he was going through
Speaker 9: his warm up, and the groundswell of people that want
Speaker 9: to watch him warm up, warm up.
Speaker 5: That to me says.
Speaker 9: Everything you need to know that there is a special
Speaker 9: quality and people realize that this is just something a
Speaker 9: little different. This is just not a normal NBA player.
Speaker 2: He's an Eagle. He was on the call last night
Speaker 2: TNT Warriors Knicks. He's got the Warriors' nets tomorrow night,
Speaker 2: and then Michigan, Michigan State coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 5: That is right? Thank you.
Speaker 9: I didn't know where I was going until you mentioned it,
Speaker 9: so I'd better book that flight.
Speaker 2: Is there a backup plan in case you can't show
Speaker 2: up at a game.
Speaker 5: It's a hologram. We've worked that out.
Speaker 9: They have a soundboard of all my calls and then
Speaker 9: they just project me onto the screen. We're actually trying
Speaker 9: to do that with RAF at this point. We don't
Speaker 9: even need him to be at the games. We just
Speaker 9: have onions on a loop, to the order on a loop,
Speaker 9: and then you're good.
Speaker 5: You're good to go for the tournament.
Speaker 2: Bill Raftery is and people will find him entertaining on
Speaker 2: a game. He's a million times more entertaining when he's
Speaker 2: not doing a game. And that's saying a lot. But
Speaker 2: the first time I met Raf. I was in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: Craig Sager's bar, Jocks and Jill, that's right, And I
Speaker 2: just got through. I was working at CNN and I
Speaker 2: went over to Seger's bar. I come in and Raf
Speaker 2: has the corner of the bar. As you walk in
Speaker 2: the corner of the bar, there had to be twenty
Speaker 2: five beers, and he had ordered twenty five beers. Yes,
Speaker 2: and it was just if you came up to talk
Speaker 2: to him, just grab a beer. That's first time I
Speaker 2: met him, and I mean, he is a delight.
Speaker 5: Can I interject one thing to him?
Speaker 9: Because it just spurred a memory of mine. We were
Speaker 9: in Seattle for a net game and we ended up
Speaker 9: going to dinner, large group, and then the group got
Speaker 9: a little smaller. We went out to a bar afterwards,
Speaker 9: and we got to the bar, and literally ten minutes
Speaker 9: into our stay at the bar, they call out last call,
Speaker 9: and I see, like Bill's whole demeanor change in that moment,
Speaker 9: and he just leaves the group and he goes to
Speaker 9: the bar and he obviously gets in an order for
Speaker 9: last call, and normally last call what ends up happening.
Speaker 5: They still let you hang around a little bit. They
Speaker 5: did not they kick us out of this bar. We
Speaker 5: spill out into the street.
Speaker 9: It's not even that laid out, and Bill's a bit
Speaker 9: upset about it, and I understand they cut off his evening.
Speaker 9: So he's wearing a long trench coat. And we get
Speaker 9: outside now and our director who passed away, great guy,
Speaker 9: Dave Hagen. He shows us that he snuck one beer
Speaker 9: out to the street and all laugh, Oh, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: Rap opens his trench coat.
Speaker 9: He has eight years, but he has snuck out two
Speaker 9: in eg side pocket, two on the interior in his pants.
Speaker 5: This guy is at another level.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering. I brought this up when I interviewed Sonny vccaro.
Speaker 2: I said, I hope that he would get into Basketball
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame contributions to the game. And they're certain
Speaker 2: like Dick VII tow contributions and Bill Raftery, yes, you know,
Speaker 2: because he was a former college coach. He's in, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but to have but Sonny Vaccaro is not Yeah. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if we look at the shoe business
Speaker 2: and the CD under belly of this and that's like
Speaker 2: he had contributions to the game. He signed Michael Jordan,
Speaker 2: he signed Kobe almost signed Lebron and you got these
Speaker 2: coaches who got paid. I mean, he changed college basketball.
Speaker 2: You may say, maybe not for the better, but where
Speaker 2: do you stand on contributions to the game and you
Speaker 2: know people getting inducted.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he should be in. He should be in. He
Speaker 5: played a large role in the development of the game.
Speaker 9: And you're right, there were some things happening that nobody
Speaker 9: was completely aware of and it changed the sport. But
Speaker 9: it was inevitable. If it wasn't him, it was going
Speaker 9: to be somebody else. I do think the fact that
Speaker 9: he had a big personality was a big part of
Speaker 9: what made college basketball what it was, and I don't
Speaker 9: know if that's lost now a little bit. Just like
Speaker 9: everything in life, as it goes to a different level financially,
Speaker 9: business wise, commerce, you lose a little bit of what
Speaker 9: made it so special. But the personalities made college basketball,
Speaker 9: coaching personalities, behind the scenes, broadcasting personality larger than live
Speaker 9: Dick Vitale We'll obviously played a big role Raff as
Speaker 9: you mentioned, and I think it is a little bit
Speaker 9: of a lost art now when it comes to sports
Speaker 9: because it's much more corporate and we're not going to
Speaker 9: have that kind of Viscer rule reaction like we used
Speaker 9: to have to people that had the impact that that
Speaker 9: Sonny had. He he belongs in there, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: Your thoughts on Rick Patino still make it. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: He's He's on the short list of greatest basketball coaches
Speaker 2: of all time. I mean really, you know the Celtics,
Speaker 2: he couldn't control the roster, didn't get Tim Duncan, but
Speaker 2: every place like we plugged him in at Iona and
Speaker 2: we thought, oh, that's a cute loy story.
Speaker 5: And he wins any way, Dan, he wins. This is
Speaker 5: who he is.
Speaker 9: And as the rules have changed, look, he's adapted to them.
Speaker 9: He recognized way back when you may have to do
Speaker 9: things in your way in a certain manner and maybe
Speaker 9: a bended when the situation calls for it. I think
Speaker 9: that Rick was so far ahead of his time in
Speaker 9: the eighties that eventually others picked up on it and
Speaker 9: figured it out. But the thing about Rick that still
Speaker 9: strikes me to this day is he always adjusts. He's
Speaker 9: just a great coach. He's an incredible motivator, He's a
Speaker 9: tremendous tactician. His x's and o's are through the roof
Speaker 9: He's smart. He gets it. He understands the media side
Speaker 9: of it. He gets all of it, and you could
Speaker 9: find great coaches that get some of it. He understands
Speaker 9: every aspect of this job and the fact that he's
Speaker 9: done it so quickly. At Saint John's, I was at
Speaker 9: the garden this past weekend. It was sold out. Dan,
Speaker 9: it is a happening again. You have to go back
Speaker 9: really to my youth in the eighties when it felt
Speaker 9: like this around New York. They've had good teams, they've
Speaker 9: had competitive teams, they haven't had this, they haven't had
Speaker 9: this kind of buzz and this kind of chain reaction
Speaker 9: in the city. And it's Rick that's done it.
Speaker 2: Safe travels to Brooklyn tomorrow for the ban, Thank you
Speaker 2: for the nets, tilt Tree with Golden State, and then
Speaker 2: and then just to let you know, on Sunday, you
Speaker 2: have to do Michigan and Michigan State. Hold on, let
Speaker 2: me Michigan, Michigan State, Michigan that is in east Land, Lansing.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: And they they got a player, you know, Jason Richardson's son, Jase.
Speaker 2: He might be a top five pick in the in
Speaker 2: the draft.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I had them earlier this season at the Garden against Rutgers,
Speaker 9: he was coming off the bench. He is not coming
Speaker 9: off the bench.
Speaker 2: How do you explain Rutgers will have two of the
Speaker 2: top four players drafted and may not make the tournament.
Speaker 9: Yeah, chemistry means so much. You play basketball growing up,
Speaker 9: it was important to you. I'm sure there were years
Speaker 9: where you thought, oh, man, we have great individual talent
Speaker 9: and then it didn't fit. Unfortunately, it just doesn't fit
Speaker 9: or it doesn't translate into wins. But you're gonna hear
Speaker 9: about those two guys, Harper and Bailey for a long
Speaker 9: time because they're going to play in the NBA for
Speaker 9: a long time.
Speaker 5: But they're going to look back at.
Speaker 9: The fact that they didn't take advantage of the opportunity
Speaker 9: in college and there's nothing they can do about it.
Speaker 2: Like Ben Simmons didn't make the tournament at L make
Speaker 2: the tournament yep.
Speaker 9: At LSU, I actually had a game of his his
Speaker 9: freshman year.
Speaker 5: I was wowed by his skill set. Their team just
Speaker 5: wasn't that good.
Speaker 2: Tell tom Izzo, I said, alot, I will, Yeah, I will,
Speaker 2: He's great. Tell him I sett alone done. I will
Speaker 2: say it. Tell him it's you know, getting about that
Speaker 2: time that maybe steps down and lets somebody else. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say that, No, don't don't, don't say Hey,
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick.
Speaker 5: Says hello, and maybe it's time to step aside.
Speaker 3: He would appreciate it, he's got to say probably.
Speaker 2: Of course I'm going to deny it when he says,
Speaker 2: you can produce, all right, thanks, all right, that's Iron
Speaker 2: Eagle or Ian Eigel.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: He did the next game last night, and you go
Speaker 2: from the garden to Berkley's in Brooklyn, It's going to
Speaker 2: be a whole different vibe there for that game tomorrow night. Uh,
Speaker 2: Matthew and la Hey, matt what do you have for
Speaker 2: me today?
Speaker 11: DP? Longtime, first time you were talking about Steph and
Speaker 11: his Olympic performance, which I think topped his NBA championships.
Speaker 11: He saved a country. A recommendation for you. Court of
Speaker 11: Gold on Netflix. It is amazing all the superstars that
Speaker 11: are in there. You got Patum patom ripping his France team,
Speaker 11: Jokich going at his team really really well done. I
Speaker 11: agree with you the emotional aspect of Kerr leaving all
Speaker 11: of our quote unquote avengers out there are superstars. The
Speaker 11: shot over France, the three point barrage by staff against Serbia.
Speaker 11: It was really really amazing and the documentary is welcome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marvin talked about it like you got true passion
Speaker 2: out of players and it you can't help. But you know, gosh,
Speaker 2: I wish they had that passion with their day job,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's trying to do it every single night.
Speaker 2: You're playing for your country. And you see that Joker
Speaker 2: winning a bronze felt more important than winning an NBA
Speaker 2: title to him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, poon Er, Uh, Marvin, Yes, because Joker didn't grow
Speaker 3: up in Denver.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it means a lot more to him to
Speaker 4: play with his countryman, guys he's probably played with since
Speaker 4: he was fourteen to fifteen years old.
Speaker 2: Well, take a break, glass, Garlf for phone calls, What
Speaker 2: we learn, what's in store tomorrow, this day in sports history.
Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
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Speaker 2: One of our favorites, Jim Jackson, orm NBA player now
Speaker 2: an analyst. He'll join us coming up tomorrow. Last call
Speaker 2: for phone calls. What we learn Once in store tomorrow.
Speaker 2: All of that forthcoming. I mentioned this earlier, it is
Speaker 2: worthy of mentioning it again. DraftKings the betting lines on
Speaker 2: which team will have the number one overall pick in
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. Two days ago it was Tennessee Tennessee
Speaker 2: by a good margin over the Giants. Now two days later,
Speaker 2: the Titans and Giants both have the same odds to
Speaker 2: have the number one overall pick. New York's moving up?
Speaker 2: Are they moving up to take cam Ward? Certainly feels
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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. James in Virginia. Hi, James, how are you, buddy?
Speaker 10: No body, let's go boys. Shout out to Budha, San
Speaker 10: Francisco man, thanks for taking my call. Brother. Happy Wednesday,
Speaker 10: DP damn it. You know the best thing I like
Speaker 10: about the Devot Traders. It shows Washington fans that they
Speaker 10: are going all the way for twenty twenty five. I
Speaker 10: hope to see Devon Adams and Miles there down the road.
Speaker 10: We'll see how it goes. But I love the conversation today, guys.
Speaker 10: I'll tell you what for me. The best Baseball movie
Speaker 10: All Time is nostalgic, stam lot all day every day,
Speaker 10: sit down and watch them whatever. And one last thing,
Speaker 10: crazy man. I went into a movie theater with a girl.
Speaker 10: She said, you want to go see this new Jamie
Speaker 10: Foxx movie. I'm like, yeah, I love Jamie. Push and
Speaker 10: Lena to say. We were the minorities in the group
Speaker 10: and it was Jane Go and in the first couple
Speaker 10: of minutes you find out real fast with that movie's
Speaker 10: about great movie. But Botley caught off guard.
Speaker 5: She was the minority in the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's what your folks, Yeah, if you if they
Speaker 2: heard you speaking, James, you know, if the theater's dark,
Speaker 2: then they're not gonna be able to see you. And
Speaker 2: they'd be like, all right, lights come on and they're like,
Speaker 2: whoa you hear Oh hell.
Speaker 3: No, that's right, brother, I hear you. Oh hell now?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 3: Brent in des Moin, Hey, Brent.
Speaker 11: Good morning, sir, five nine one sixty five.
Speaker 12: Okay, I've kind of been waiting for the right morning
Speaker 12: to ask you to rank three shows in order, number one,
Speaker 12: of course being the best. I do think I know
Speaker 12: how you'll answer it, but I'm curious to hear your answer.
Speaker 12: So the three shows, in no particular order are The Wire, Ozark,
Speaker 12: and Breaking Bad.
Speaker 2: Okay, you want to tell me your guests on my
Speaker 2: top three, sure I will.
Speaker 12: I don't have to, But if you want to just
Speaker 12: tell me yours, that's fine too.
Speaker 11: But I'll tell you my guest if you'd like.
Speaker 12: Okay, So I think you're going Breaking Bad Ozark in
Speaker 12: a wire.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me see. I think it's really close.
Speaker 2: I would say Breaking Bad, then I would do the Wire,
Speaker 2: and then I would do Ozark. There's no wrong order
Speaker 2: on this. But like Breaking Bad, was a chemistry teacher
Speaker 2: who had cancer and all of a sudden became this
Speaker 2: drug lord. You imagine pitching that, okay, And they always
Speaker 2: talk about an elevator pitch that you should be able
Speaker 2: to make your pitch while the elevator is. You're talking
Speaker 2: to somebody on an elevator, so you're, you know, starting
Speaker 2: on the first floor and you're going up to the
Speaker 2: ninth floor. I got I got nine floors to get
Speaker 2: my pitch. So just like what I did, Uh, chemistry teacher,
Speaker 2: he's got cancer and he wants to make money for
Speaker 2: his family. When he dies, he becomes a drug lord.
Speaker 2: That's it. We're not even at the fourth floor yet,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they pull it off
Speaker 2: the wire felt like that was it was voyeuristic. The
Speaker 2: first season, You're you're like closed circuit cameras watching a neighborhood,
Speaker 2: watching everything that was going on. Ozark was just you know,
Speaker 2: And a lot of these shows, and certainly this was
Speaker 2: with Breaking Bad. What can they get into that the
Speaker 2: writers have to write a script to get them out
Speaker 2: of it? Felt like every episode, you go, He's never
Speaker 2: going to get out of this, And the same with
Speaker 2: Jason Bateman and Ozark. Marty Byrd's How's he going to
Speaker 2: get out of this? And I always found that fascinating that, yes,
Speaker 2: the actors have to pull this off, but the writers
Speaker 2: and what they did awesome.
Speaker 3: This Dane Sports History Paul.
Speaker 6: Nineteen sixty four, the NFL purchased Blair Motion Pictures, which
Speaker 6: was renamed NFL Films was owned by Ed Sable and
Speaker 6: his family. Wow nineteen ninety four, Michael Adams of the
Speaker 6: Washington Bullets at the time became the third player in
Speaker 6: NBA history to hit nine hundred career three point field goals.
Speaker 6: Right now, there's over two hundred players in their career
Speaker 6: who've hit over nine hundred career threes.
Speaker 2: Michael Adams one of the ugliest shots in NBA history.
Speaker 2: But hey, you knew how to play? Was he Boston College?
Speaker 2: Michael Adams?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: There's some of those guys that you watch and you go,
Speaker 2: I don't know how they did it, but they did it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's truly it's like batting stances, your shot or how
Speaker 2: you pitch. They're just uniqueness there and I always had
Speaker 2: great appreciation for that. On this date, in nineteen seventy three,
Speaker 2: the Yankee pitchers Mike Kekech and Fritz Peterson announced that
Speaker 2: they were trading wives. They also traded children, and they
Speaker 2: traded the family dogs.
Speaker 3: True story.
Speaker 2: We had Matt Damon on the show a while ago,
Speaker 2: and I did ask him because I think there was
Speaker 2: a time when Matt Damon and Ben Affleck were looking
Speaker 2: at purchasing the rights or developing that moving because okay,
Speaker 2: once again two players trading lives, trading children, trading dogs.
Speaker 2: I think one of the couples stayed together for quite
Speaker 2: some time.
Speaker 6: Yes, Paulieu Aflic and Damon bought the rights to it
Speaker 6: in twenty fifteen. Nothing has come of it yet.
Speaker 2: Who brings that up? But about swapping, yes, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's why we need.
Speaker 3: A movie now.
Speaker 6: Those mortgage rates are really hitting them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. I think you could just do
Speaker 2: a family vacation. I don't think I need to take
Speaker 2: your wife and your kids and your dog. Now, how
Speaker 2: about we take a test drive here? Todd, what did
Speaker 2: I learn today?
Speaker 3: When he's not pitching, Justin Erlo plays a lot of
Speaker 3: chess with his new Giants teammates.
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