1 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong, Jetty Armstrong and Getty, and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: I'm taking a national federal holiday off. It's Armstrong in Getty. 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, and you have a unique special opportunity. 6 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: That's the little we'd done there anyway. 7 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: To enjoy a carefully curated selection of Armstrong and Getty 8 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 4: v plays. 9 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: Enjoy. 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 4: So I thought this was actually semi charming at first. 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 4: It doesn't seem so, but hang with it. Ordering having 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: somebody write a memoir for you, of. 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: You, unless you've done something really interesting her storic in 14 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: your life, does there need to be a memoir? 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 4: I like this headline you met Grandma at a keg party. 16 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: The rich order one hundred thousand dollars memoirs for family only. 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 4: Grab her headline. Kind of click baity subheads kind of 18 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: amusing too. Some just want their heirs to know they 19 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 4: worked hard for their money, while others are more forthcoming. 20 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: By one and only acid trip blah blah blah. But 21 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: they profile this gal who's ninety two. Rudy is her name, 22 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 4: with an eye. She paid twelve thousand dollars, so I 23 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 4: don't know where the headline with one hundred grand came from. 24 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: There. 25 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 4: I don't think they mentioned anybody paid anywhere near that. 26 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 4: But she paid twelve thousand dollars for one hundred and 27 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: eighty five page book about her family and her life 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 4: history and her family history from life book Memoirs. The book, 29 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: entitled From Menzingen to Lake Chellen, starts off with her 30 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: German immigrant grandparents living in a saw dugout on a 31 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: Nebraska farm. At the end of the nineteenth century, five 32 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: of the couple's fourteen children died, including two in a 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: lightning strike. 34 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: Ms Paul and. 35 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: Her late husband Jim were the majority owners of a 36 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: Washington State fruit business that packed two million boxes of 37 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 4: apples and cherries a year, which is now very big 38 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: and successful. But she says, quote, I wanted my kids 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: to realize, is realize the sacrifices made by the family 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: which led to our current lifestyle. I think that could 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: be so lost. And again, it's funny the clickbaity headlines 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 4: like trying to make you resent the rich, but a 43 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: couple of the stories they go through are utterly charming, 44 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 4: and I'm reminded Jack of your stories about your dad, 45 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: who didn't have indoor plumbing till what college when he 46 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 4: left home. 47 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: When he graduated high school, they still didn't have electricity 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: or plumbing. 49 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: Right late thirties or nineteen forty. 50 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: Issues born in thirty seven, he graduated high school in 51 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: fifty five. 52 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, you grew up in San Francisco. 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: It's hard to imagine in nineteen fifty five in Iowa 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: they didn't have electricity, because in San Francisco they had 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: electricity in like eighteen eighty. 56 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: But I think like your kids are, if grandkids ever 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 4: come along them, hearing that is really good and interesting 59 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 4: and helps them understand history and how what is now 60 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: hasn't always been. 61 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: And yeah, no, I agree, because then. 62 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: You realize what is now won't necessarily always be, so 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: you can change it if you like. 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: I agree with that for two generations, as somebody was 65 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: talking about this the other day, and I agreed that 66 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, you really only can wrap your head 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: around or have much interest in, like your parents you're 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: interested in and your grandparents, who you've probably met. You 69 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: go back one more generation to people you've never even met, 70 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: and maybe there aren't even pictures of it. It drops 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: off pretty quickly, which is your interest in them? 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: I think, Oh, I disagree. I disagree. 73 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're not into the whole genealogy thing, 74 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: I get that. But if I knew more about my 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: great grandparents and their lives and their struggles, I think 76 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: that's fascinating. 77 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 2: Problem is because I went I did. 78 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: I got shortly really into the ancestry dot com thing, 79 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: and I paid the huge price to be on it 80 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: for a while and filled in all the stuff and everything. 81 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: But then I quickly realized you don't have to go back. 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: Very many generations before you're like looking at one of 83 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: sixteen and then one of thirty two, and it's such 84 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: a minor part of your history. That's where I lose interest. Well, 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: especially because there's generally very little that's recorded or to 86 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: be said. But if it was something more memoirsh if 87 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 3: my great great grandfather, even my great grandfather had written 88 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: a memoir, uh, I would find that absolutely fascinating. 89 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: But I see your point. 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 4: If it's like an inch deep and there's some guy 91 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: named Jebediah Getty who lived from eighteen seven, I need 92 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 4: a nineteen oh seven. 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, and they're. 94 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: One sixty fourth or one hundred and twenty eighth of your. 95 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: Lineage, right right, It can be interesting the whole I 96 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 4: have an ancestor who dot dot dot. We've discussed this before. 97 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: I don't mean to squash people's innocent fun I really don't, 98 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 4: but it's not that significant. Like the whole pathetic and 99 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 4: I mean pathetic celebrity who finds out that fourteen generations 100 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: ago or whatever it is one of their ancestors' own 101 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: slaves and they're just devastated by it. You have a 102 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: soft effing head, Get over it. You had heroes, you 103 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: had villains, you had people who. 104 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: Worked hard, never got very far. 105 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: But their loved ones loved them and everything in between. 106 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: And so does everybody else. 107 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: Now, if you were, like you're direct descendant of Abraham Lincoln, 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 4: all right, I'll raise a glass to you. 109 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. 110 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: Or the Mayflower families, I know they have a shin 111 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: dig every year. If you're a direct descendant of the Mayflower. 112 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, great, but I'm sorry to me. That's that's 113 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: the little pathetic. 114 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: But you'd be one I don't even want to be, 115 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: but it would have to be one like at this point, 116 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 3: eight thousandth of your lineage. 117 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: What does that mean. 118 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 3: I don't know. It means nothing. I'll tell you what 119 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: it means. It means absolutely nothing. 120 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But be finds out. 121 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: Having everybody doing some sort of well, there will be 122 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: a memoir for everybody starting like twenty years ago going forward. 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: That's the norm McDonald routine of like, you know, everybody 124 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: had one picture of their great grandpa. He's standing there 125 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: looking like a farmer. It's the only picture you've ever 126 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: seen of your great grandpa. Well, in the future, you'll say, hey, 127 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: do you want to see fifty thousand pictures of my 128 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: great grandfather, because you'll have everything that ever happened in 129 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 3: their entire lives that was on Instagram or Facebook or 130 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 3: whatever it was. So you kind of will have a 131 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: memoir of everybody starting in like two thousand and ten 132 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: and going forward, whether they wrote one or not. 133 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: Katie, I think you've heard this that I found out. 134 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: I've known for a long time that on my dad's 135 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: mom's side of the family they're directly descended from Lincoln, 136 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: Secretary of War who helps save the Union. And it 137 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: turns out on my mom's side of the family, her 138 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: mom's side of the family. They're all from South Carolina 139 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: and we're movers and shakers in the secession movement. So 140 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: which color do I wear in the Civil War? Reenact? 141 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: What part of my identity should I really rest on? 142 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 4: Which side? See that's the point, y'all had a murderer, 143 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 4: and you had a copple arrested murderers. You had a hero, 144 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: you had a villain, and everything in between. Just be 145 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: you, you be you, and then pay ten thousand dollars and 146 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: have your memoir written because in a couple of generations 147 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: it might be my interesting. 148 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: When things go south for you and the media comes 149 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: to me, I will mention that you are a descended 150 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: of slaveholders. 151 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: So it makes sense, you know, right, Yeah, figures sounds liberal. 152 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: The liberal media would print that without comments, absolutely easily, 153 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: absolutely like you're making some sort of really important point. 154 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 5: So the people writing these memoirs, I'm assuming they obviously 155 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 5: sit down and talk to the people, get their hours 156 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 5: and hours of interviews, hours and hours. So can you 157 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 5: take that part of it out, insert all of that 158 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 5: information into chat GPT and get this done for nothing? 159 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: Probably? What an interesting question because I would think you 160 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: give it the prom. 161 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 4: Chat GPT, take all of that stuff and write a 162 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 4: memoir for me that's. 163 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: Exactly two hundred and fifteen pages long or whatever. 164 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, mine, I would have to have Mike, the lawyer 165 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: from Chicago who was one of my best friends from 166 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: middle school on and has a dozen unbelievable stories. 167 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: About me that I have no memory of. Wow until 168 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: he tells them. 169 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: Then I'm like, oh wow, I can picture that scene, 170 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: but unrecalled, no memory. I'd never think of him again 171 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: as long as I live. I love people like that. 172 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: I remember so little of my youth. It's it's kind 173 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: of tragic and might have to do with concussions. I 174 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: don't know, but I would need him, and I would 175 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: need a panel of people, because if you just interview me, 176 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: it's like, you know, I, for whatever reason, I read 177 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 4: musician autobiographies and stuff because I'm music freak, and some 178 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: of them telling long detailed stories about the nineteen seventy 179 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: one tour when we blah blah blah. I'm like, how 180 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: the hell do you remember that stuff? But it's a gift. 181 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: I guess. I envy people like that. I am. 182 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: I recently had somebody tell me a story that I 183 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: didn't know anything about with me in it because of drinking. 184 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: But it was just like and I had no idea 185 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: and they didn't even know I was drunk at the time, 186 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: but so and to find out, I was like, God, 187 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: I wonder how many stories I have either forgotten from 188 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: childhood or forgotten from adulthood and drinking of like just 189 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 3: my own life, my own life story. I could watch 190 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: a movie of things like and be all news to me, 191 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: things that have happened in my life. 192 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: Well, right, yeah, you want to hear something crazy I 193 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 4: have on two different occasions probably saved somebody's life. And 194 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 4: the one I had practically no memory of alcohol was 195 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: involved in that one. And the other one the guy 196 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 4: I hadn't seen him in the years, and he greeted 197 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: with me with, oh my god, it's the guy who 198 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: saved my life. 199 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: Joe, how are you? 200 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: And I'm like, ah, eh what, And I totally i'd 201 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: forgotten about it. I remember that incident pretty clearly now 202 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: that he reminded me. But yeah, I just my. 203 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: Brain just doesn't work. 204 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: I would have thought jumping in front of that charging bull, 205 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: you would have remember that. 206 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, well he only took out one of 207 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: my testicles with his horns. So I just, I guess 208 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 4: I just think about the other rights left. Yeah, yeah, 209 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 4: I would was the guy, Oh, go ahead, go ahead. 210 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: How would you respond? 211 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 5: I would have responded, I'm sorry, I've saved a lot 212 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 5: of lives, can you, professor? 213 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: Kind of thing, kind of thing, fighting lives. 214 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: So one guy was going over a high railing and 215 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: I just grabbed him with both hands and hauled him 216 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: back because he was hammered. God knows, it would have 217 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: been very bad damage. He might not have died. He 218 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 4: might have just, you know, severe concussion or something. 219 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: You see the other guy, pardon me, you saved a 220 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: concussion at minimum. 221 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: And the other guy was had viral meningitis, and nobody 222 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: knew what to do. They're like, I just let him sleep, 223 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 4: and I said, he's not asleep, he's unconscious. 224 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: We're calling nine to one one right now. 225 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: And I called him and they came, and he would 226 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: have died within what they said six hours or something. 227 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: Aw geez. Anyway, but I didn't remember. 228 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: That's why I have such clarity in an emergency, because 229 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: I'm unencumbered by like any other thoughts. 230 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 6: Just a quick reminder that if you do any of 231 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 6: the ancestrys stuff. Give him a saliva sample, not a 232 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 6: stool sample, right right, it screws up the results. 233 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 4: Yes, that's right, Michael, Before you go, Before we go, 234 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: what is the title of your memoir that you have 235 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 4: ghost written? Now, because I've put this demand upon you, 236 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: I will go first. 237 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: I know what reminded me. I'll give you time to think. 238 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: This is something I say all the time, and I'm 239 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: not proud of it. Shooting for a bee. That's my 240 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: entire life. Shooting for bit jack armstrung. Not excellence, just 241 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 3: you know, slightly above average. That's all I ever really 242 00:12:59,120 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: hoped for. 243 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: Mine would be focus, try to focus the Joe getting story. 244 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: Michael or Katie. Who's up next? 245 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 5: I think Mike, Michael looks like he's he's I'm still thinking, 246 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: but oh, you're. 247 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: Still thinking it. 248 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 5: Mine would be something along the lines of like more 249 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 5: coffee or something I'd like because I'm always tired or. 250 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 2: IV of caffeine. 251 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: That sucks being always tired. My son's like that too, 252 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 3: just always exhausted for some reason. 253 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can relate. 254 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: As the great Eric Clapton said, Jack, you hit me 255 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: with this quote many years ago, speaking of things I 256 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 4: do and don't remember. There's never been a moment of 257 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: my life I haven't wanted to lie down or felt 258 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: like lying down. 259 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: That's my memoir. 260 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, mine would be meteorocity, like a warm bath. 261 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: There you go, it's pretty good. That's nice, good imagery. 262 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show. Yeah, Arjack, your show, podcasts, 263 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: and our hot links. The Armstrong and Getty Show. 264 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: Popular weight loss drug with GOVI is now available as 265 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: a daily pill. Drug maker Novo Nordisk says the starter 266 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: dose costs one hundred and forty nine bucks a month. Yeah, 267 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: so one hundred and fifty a month, which you know, 268 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: if you're super overweight, you might want to, you know, 269 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: cancel Netflix or whatever else and scrounge up one hundred 270 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: and fifty a month and spend that on ho hos 271 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: every month. And if you have yeah, think about that. 272 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: And if you have insurance, it's like twenty five dollars 273 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: for most people. So it has now become everyone can 274 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: get it now. I don't know if the doctor lets 275 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: you get a prescription. I don't know what the rules 276 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: are in that you have to still have to be 277 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: like a certain amount of overweight before they'll even let 278 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: you get a prescription. 279 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 4: Oh boy, do Yeah, I don't know the status that 280 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: do you have to be diabetic, pre diabetic, just have 281 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 4: any I mean, for instance, my doctor could argue, yeah, 282 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: when his weight goes up, his blood pressure goes up, 283 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,239 Speaker 4: and that's serious condition sleep. 284 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: Apnea, which has all kinds of horrible things that it 285 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: does to you. A great, great point. 286 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think a lot, a lot, a lot 287 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: of people are going to be on these drugs. 288 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: And I've been saying that since they were invented. 289 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: Well, and if I was an insurance executive, seriously, I'd say, 290 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: anybody who freaking wants it, give it to them. Yeah, 291 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: it's going to eliminate all sorts of expensive things we 292 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: have to pay for. 293 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: Hell, come to their houses and deliver it. 294 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: As you a person who has gained and lost a 295 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: lot of weight, K, do you have an opinion on this? 296 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 5: Well, I was just there was an ad just released 297 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 5: by with GOVI that they're using it for sleep apne. 298 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: Well, love that it's going to be lots and lots 299 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 3: of people. So will it have any effect on the 300 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: thousand pounds sisters? I wasn't watching this show, but it's 301 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: on TLC, and apparently it had a just a bang 302 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: up season last year that everybody loved. 303 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: Season two debuts. Here's the promo. Have you names God yet? What? 304 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: Okay, you gotta stop it for their second I'm sorry 305 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: that some of the show needs to be mush mouth 306 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: sisters and their mush mouth friends. 307 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: So we'll start this over again. 308 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: But one of the problems seems to be I've been 309 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: led to believe that this show is in English. 310 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: Are they too fat to talk? Or what is going 311 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: on here? Okay, let's let's try it again. Have you 312 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: names gob fighting yet? 313 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: What? 314 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: It feels like we're dripping a bar? Excuse to be 315 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: my best friend? We just assumed it caming be the 316 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: maide board. 317 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: Dammy called Amy a dead beat mom. 318 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: I can't handle her toxic ask no more? 319 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: Do we really need to kind of get it mooved over? 320 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: Families are supposed to pull together. 321 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna sit here and have you seen me 322 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 7: this blooney when I don't like belooney? 323 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: So that's so, that is what TLC is really good at. 324 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: Their kids. They're dwarves, they're overweight, they're you know, they're 325 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: child pageant stars. 326 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 2: But they're really all a holes. 327 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: So it could be dwarves who are a holes, fat 328 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: people are a holes, pageant people who. 329 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: Are a holes in a short A holes. Wow, that 330 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 4: sounds like horrifyingly entertaining. I don't think it's any good 331 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: for your character to watch them. I don't think it 332 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: is either. 333 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: I want to watch it, but I'm sure that it 334 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: makes me a worse person to tune in. 335 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show. Yeah, or Jack your show 336 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: podcasts and our hot links. 337 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show. Uh so uh. 338 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: Jack and I have both on and off the air 339 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: through the last several months, talked about the idea of 340 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: the various AI platforms as deliverers of like counseling or perspective. 341 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: Call it thing. 342 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 3: I'm fine with calling it therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, using 343 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: AI chatbot as therapist. 344 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mentioned. 345 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: People and routinely when I bring that up to people, 346 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: they're like, what you gotta be kidding. And I feel 347 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: like I can speak with some authority because I guarantee 348 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: you I've spent six figures on therapy for me, my kids, 349 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: my family over the years, and most of it crap. 350 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: And I get answers out of these chatbots where I think, wow, 351 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: that is really insightful regularly. Yeah, I've got to admit 352 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: I was. 353 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 4: Skeptical or just unsure how that could be until I 354 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 4: started doing it myself. So over the break, I type 355 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 4: this into chat GPT. I jack agree with you that 356 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 4: Claude is an excellent, excellent giver of advice and therapy. 357 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: And it is remarkably straightforward and both kind but not 358 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: like confirming your your bull crap. 359 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: No, it does not, because that's funny. 360 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 3: My uh, I've got a relative I won't say who, 361 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: because I know how so many people are. I've got 362 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: a relative who actually is in the world of therapy 363 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 3: and said, now, the problem with the chatbots is they're 364 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: just going to tell you what you want to hear 365 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: all the time. And I said, that is the exact 366 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: opposite of my experience. First of all, the paid therapists 367 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: tell you that's the other person that's wrong all the time, 368 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: because I want you to keep coming back. And Claude 369 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 3: specifically has told me like whoa, whoa, whoa, dude, you 370 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: are way off base. Yeah. 371 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so so I was. I had free time over 372 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 4: the break, and I have since I was fourteen years old, 373 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 4: often filled my free time with music stuff, whether writing, recording, 374 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 4: playing in a band or whatever, writing lyrics, and. 375 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: I'd get just time for self pleasurement as a fourteen 376 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: year old. Oh I I worked it in. 377 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 4: Anyway, Well, you know, where there's a will, there's a way, 378 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: and there's a will anyway, we I'll. 379 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: Bundle myself in for around bedtime. 380 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: Last a couple of last couple of years, at least, 381 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: I've had this feeling of what's the point, why bother? 382 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: But I've just even having that feeling made me unhappy. 383 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: But I've been completely unmotivated. So I thought, all right, 384 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 4: this is silly, So I typed into chat GPT. In 385 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: this case, I'm having trouble getting motivated to write and 386 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 4: record music. What are the benefits, whether psychological or neurological, 387 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: to doing that? And I had a pretty strong feeling 388 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 4: that the neurological stuff would be compelling. I was thing 389 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 4: shocked at how good the psychological stuff was. 390 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 3: So you were hoping you'd find out that like trying 391 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 3: to make music would be good enough for your brain 392 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 3: that it would motivate you to do it. Stay off 393 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 3: dementia or whatever. 394 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: Right exactly, just keep my brain functioning as well as 395 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: you know it can. And again I saw that coming, 396 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: but not psychological stuff. So here, I'm going to read 397 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: you some of this and we'll keep going until you 398 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: get bored with it. That lack of motivation is very 399 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 4: common among musicians, especially people who care about quality. 400 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: Well, if you've ever listened to me, you know I don't. 401 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: But there are real, well studied benefits to writing and 402 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 4: recording music that go beyond it feels nice, and understanding 403 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 4: them sometimes helps unblock the inertia. Low are the main 404 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 4: psychological and neurological benefits, framed in a practical way rather 405 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: than abstract theory. So let's start with psychological benefits Number one. 406 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: Emotional regulation and processing. Writing music activates the same mechanisms 407 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 4: as expressive writing, but often more powerfully. It gives your 408 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 4: brain a structured outlet for emotions that don't resolve well 409 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: through conversation. Melody and harmony let you process ambiguous or 410 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: mixed emotions through things language alone struggles with this often 411 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 4: reduces background and background anxiety and rumination on the song itself. 412 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: Isn't quote unquote happy. Why this matters? 413 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 4: Unexpressed emotion consumes cognitive resources. 414 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: Music externalizes it gets it out you. That is pretty interesting. 415 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: So a lot of people who do music, it isn't 416 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: it might be completely necessary to them not going nuts. 417 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: Yes exactly, and not homicidal rage in my case. But 418 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 4: and without getting too autobiographical, I what were some of 419 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 4: those words? 420 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: Ambiguous or mixed emotions. 421 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 4: Middle aged, empty nest, successful, career, other interests. I am 422 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 4: a whirling ball of mixed emotions and ambiguity. Trust me, 423 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: you know what am I doing? Why am I doing this? 424 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: How am I spending my time? How long am I 425 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: going to live? Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. 426 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, and then two and this one hit me. 427 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 4: Identity reinforcement for musicians create music reinforces who you are 428 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 4: and not just what you do. When you stop creating, 429 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: your brain often experience is a low grade identity friction. 430 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm not living aligned with myself. 431 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 4: Creating even privately restores internal coherence and self trust. This 432 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: is especially important later in life or during periods of transition, 433 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 4: when identity can feel diffuse. 434 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, go back to that phrase. Low level identity friction. Uh, 435 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: low grade identity friction. I'm not living aligned with who 436 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 3: I am. That's really interesting. Yeah, that could factor into 437 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 3: all kinds of different things. You start, you stop doing 438 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: the things that are you right, and you have that 439 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: low grade identity friction like I'm not being me anymore. 440 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 3: That that that you know, you'll I don't want to 441 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: do the whole what it's going to be like to 442 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: be a parent thing with Katie, but I know that 443 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: happened with me being a parent because you don't have 444 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: time for the stuff that are you at all. 445 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: At some point it kind of really gets to you. 446 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 4: And then when the kids fly, trust me when I say, 447 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 4: you're like, oh wow, everything I've been about for decades 448 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: now is not gone, but it's changed in a fundamental way. 449 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: So uh wait a minute now, I'm sure I remember. 450 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: You know what I used to do and why it 451 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: gave me meaning? Anyway, Um oh, I was I gonna say, 452 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. Flow and intrinsic reward music creation is 453 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 4: one of the strongest triggers of flow state whatever that is. 454 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 4: They don't really define it, define it, but I'm sure 455 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 4: I could look it up. Flow reduces cortisol, which is 456 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: a stress hormone which I have been feeling a great 457 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 4: deal lately, increases dopamine during the process, not just at 458 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: the end, and improves mood for hours afterward. Important recording 459 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: increases the likelihood of flow because it adds focus and 460 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 4: commitment in mastery and agency finishing. Even a rough track 461 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 4: provides a sense of control. I can still make things 462 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 4: evidence of competence, which is, you know, now, protection against 463 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: learned helplessness. 464 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: This is a subtle but powerful. 465 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: This is subtle but powerful, especially if other parts of 466 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: life feel constrained or repetitive, and then they get into 467 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 4: the neurological stuff, which is just freaking undeniable. 468 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 469 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: I'm listening to this thinking about my son who has 470 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: gotten into music and has a lot of emotional stuff 471 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: I've talked about a lot over the yere. Yeah, that 472 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: be reasons for me to encourage him to continue to 473 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: do the music thing. 474 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just going to throw a handful of terms 475 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 4: at you for the neurological benefits. Neuroplasticity maintenance, auditory context, 476 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: mortar cortex pre funnel planning regions, emotional limbic systems, cognitive 477 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 4: flexibility supports executive function. 478 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: You brought that up earlier. 479 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 4: Is associated with slower age related cognitive decline, dopamine serotonin balance, 480 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 4: memory integration. It helps your brain link emotional memory, narrative memory, 481 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 4: sensory memory, improves recall an emotional resilience, your experiences feel 482 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 4: more organized internally. And then, and this is one of 483 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 4: the wild aspects. 484 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: It says, do you. 485 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: Want me to give you a couple of like totally 486 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 4: low risk ways to ease back into it and so 487 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: it's easier for you and you don't feel that, oh, 488 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 4: it's going to be a lot. 489 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 2: Of work thing. And it gave me a bunch of 490 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: like exercises to do. Yeah, and then yeah, I'm a 491 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: big It was on Claude that that did that. This 492 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: was chat ept that Claude is terrific too. Yeah. 493 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, And at the beginning of that it mentioned something 494 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 3: about similar to writing, and I was thinking about. 495 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: Musicians and writers who do that. They must have just. 496 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: Accidentally or just from doing it a little bit figured 497 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: out this makes me feel better, so I'm going to 498 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 3: keep doing it. 499 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, just intuitively knew that. Yeah, Yeah, it's funny. 500 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 4: I've long been an activist against the trend that every hobby, 501 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: every passion, every interest needs to become a side hustle 502 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 4: that you sell on Etsy. It's funny because I've always 503 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 4: I've always gotten that that no, if it causes you. 504 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 4: The world does not need more birdhouses is the example 505 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: example I always use. There are plenty of cheap Chinese 506 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 4: birdhouses if you want a bird house. So why would 507 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 4: any old guy in his garage build a damn birdhouse. 508 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 4: It's because it gives him joy, and because it's good. 509 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: For your brain. 510 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 4: And as a guy who used to like play shows 511 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 4: and make records and stuff like that, I think what's 512 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: the point. 513 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: The point is just do it. There doesn't need. 514 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 4: To be a point. The point is the doing it. 515 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 4: Do things in short, well, if they make you happy, yeah, 516 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: do them, don't worry about the rest of it. You're 517 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: gonna be dead soon, too, dark, I don't know you're 518 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 4: going to be dead soon. Oh we never, just not 519 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: soon soon, I hope. But you know, be careful at 520 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: your local Swedish ski resort. 521 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I think this is uplifting or not. We didn't 522 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: talk about on the air. Senator Ben Sass, who we 523 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: love announcing over the last couple of weeks he got 524 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: diagnosed with the late stage pancreatic cancer, the one that 525 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 3: kills you within weeks, and he's probably not gonna live 526 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: past February. 527 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: I would guess. 528 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: Based on the weasly things are, maybe not even through January. 529 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 3: But he mentioned it is a goodbye tweet, alerting the 530 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: world that he's got this. God dang it, what a 531 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: drag forgot. He's got a degree from Harvard Yale and 532 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 3: that Saint John's College. I'm always talking about the Great 533 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: Books College in Santa Fe. He's an unbelievable brain. But anyway, 534 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: he announced that and he said, I found out I'm 535 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: going to die, but he said, here's something we're all 536 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: going to die. I already had a death sentence, so 537 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: do you. And I thought that's an interesting way to 538 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: look at it. Yeah, you do have a death sentence, 539 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: all of us. It shouldn't come as a surprise to 540 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: you at some point in life. 541 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 542 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 4: I was reading a different thinker saying the same thing 543 00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: over the weekend. 544 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: Ud lean enough and make that as a motivation to 545 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: do things as opposed to sit around think what's the point. 546 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, not to get too metaphysical, but the idea that 547 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 4: a spirit and an intelligence like Ben Sass goes away 548 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: just vanishes. 549 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: Is it's too painful. Yeah. 550 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Elon's gonna figure that out. How you can 551 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: download them into a computer chip. 552 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 4: Or something, download your soul. Hey, honey, where that word's 553 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 4: the word? I put that chip with my soul on it. 554 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 4: I thought it was in the top drawer. Oh no, 555 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: we cleaned out the top drawer. We threw it in 556 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 4: the garbage. 557 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and. 558 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getdy Show. 559 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: I was looking at my pictures from my notes. One 560 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: of them is of a turkey in a pan, which 561 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: reminds me Henrymi. He was thirteen at the time. He 562 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: was fourteen because it was Christmas, made Christmas dinner. It 563 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: was just him and me, very cool, and he looked 564 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 3: up on chat GTP what he wanted, and we went 565 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: through the grocery store and he bought all this stuff. 566 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: I let him do it on his own and wrung 567 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 3: it up and brought it home and he made a 568 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: turkey and sweet potatoes and corn bread, like baked a turkey. 569 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 3: However many hours that takes. It took him a whole 570 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: day working in there. 571 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 572 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 4: I'll always kind of enjoyed the esteem of the crowd. 573 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: When I unleash the bird and slice it up and 574 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 4: it's nice and tender. 575 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: Now children can do it. No good for him, that's terrific. 576 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: It was cool. It was cool that he did that. 577 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 4: And do you attribute at least part of that to 578 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 4: his boy scout experience? 579 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: Probably? 580 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: Uh, probably actually some of it. I also, if I 581 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: want to make it ultimately sad, do I want to 582 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: turn this ultimately sad? I think he knows I don't 583 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: don't cook, and he was hoping to have some sort 584 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: of Christmas dinner and not if I'm going to have one, 585 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to provide it myself. 586 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: No, that's you know what. 587 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 4: That's a really great and beautiful way to deal with 588 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 4: a very very difficult circumstance. 589 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will make it happen. Yeah, what a fine lad. 590 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: And he did, and he gave him something to do. 591 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: This one is definitely a downer. I'll save it for 592 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: the show tomorrow. 593 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll end with this, Oh man, grace, something to 594 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 3: look forward to, folks. I'll just give you the teas 595 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: and I'll give the whole thing the Jewish Center in 596 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: my tiny little town, which I have been too many 597 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: many times for other reasons, not Jewish reasons, but they 598 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: have other sorts of meetings and everything like that. Can 599 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 3: no longer have those meetings. They have a great, big, 600 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 3: giant fence they just built around it. That oh, because 601 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: it's they don't feel like it's a safe campus anymore. Jeez, 602 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: that is not a good change in my life. 603 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: Wow, that is a talent, isn't that something? 604 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: All the years I've lived in that town for dang 605 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 3: York century and it's just been like an open campus 606 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 3: and you could go over there and whatever. 607 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: They were going to do there. 608 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: Now it's got great, big, giant, I mean really big, 609 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: really solid fence all the way around it that they 610 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: decided they need. 611 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 4: This is nineteen thirty four Germany, and this means like 612 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: a lot of the world. 613 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, now, let's not crack down on anti Semitism. We 614 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: might make somebody mad. 615 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: Oh, we do have something funny coming up that's good 616 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: to end with. Yes, I'll throw this in here. Giorgio Maloney, 617 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: who have the Prime Minister of Italy who we've quoted 618 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: a couple of different times for her big speech she 619 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: gave on Christmas Eve. I think anyway, one thing she said, 620 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: Georgio be a dude Georgia. 621 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 4: Ok yeah, okay, all right. I was gonna say, is 622 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 4: it a transgender thing or what? Because you know, oh, 623 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 4: she's she's cute too. 624 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: I like her. She's tough, she's cute. 625 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: Anyway, she said, this past year has been tough for 626 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: all of us, but don't worry because next year will 627 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 3: be even worse, even more. 628 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, good stuff, she got a man. Maybe I'll 629 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: put in an application anyway. 630 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: Our favorite Trump impersonator who posts stuff online took a 631 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: look at the capture of Nicholas Maduro and here's how 632 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: it went. 633 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 7: My fellow Americans, it is my great honor to announce 634 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 7: the capture of Venezuelan dictator Nicholas Maduro, a very nasty 635 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 7: person with a very stupid mustache. Is very stupid, and 636 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 7: he broke what's called the Trump doctrine. F around and 637 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 7: find out, and he left around for too long. And 638 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 7: now we found out. Hour beautiful men and women of 639 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 7: our military entered his home through a hole that was 640 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 7: created after we attached Chris Christy to a wrecking ball. 641 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 7: We blew a big, beautiful hole in the house. And 642 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 7: they said to me, sir, we found them, sir, he's 643 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 7: sleeping like a baby in Hello Kitty Pajamas. Believe it 644 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 7: or not, he was in Hello Kitty Pajama, suck his 645 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 7: thumb in the fetal position. They said to me, sir, 646 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 7: what do you want us to do? 647 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: Sir? 648 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 7: I said, get him out, and they got him out. 649 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 7: But when we convict Maduro, we're gonna shave off that horrible, 650 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 7: stupid mustache. And we're looking at where to send them. 651 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 7: We're looking at Seacat. It's a beautiful place in El Salvado, 652 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 7: a very tough place, and if he goes there, maybe 653 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 7: the Democrats could have a margarito with him. You know, 654 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 7: they like to do that, so maybe they can do that, 655 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 7: or we may send them to Somalia. I call it 656 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 7: a sugar honey iced tea holl you know what I'm 657 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 7: talking about. 658 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: Somalia. It's a very nasty place. 659 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 7: But the days of Maduro sending drugs and gang members 660 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 7: into our country are over. And let this serve as 661 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 7: a message to the rest of the world. If you're 662 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 7: a dictator who threatens the United States, including the Ayatollah 663 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 7: of Iran and his many wives or goats or whatever 664 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 7: the hell is doing in that cave. We're gonna come 665 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 7: for you to do not break the Trump doctrine for 666 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 7: at and find out. If you abide by it, you're 667 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 7: not gonna have a problem. But if you break the 668 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 7: Trump doctrine, you're gonna have a lot of problems. Thank 669 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 7: you for your attention to this matter. 670 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 3: You know what's interesting about that, I'm sure we are 671 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: all thinking about it that that's only like one percent 672 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 3: off what he might have said. Yeah, yeah, I mean 673 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: the comedian Shane Gillis does a thing about Trump's speech 674 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: that he gave after we killed bag Daddy, and Trump 675 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 3: basically sounded like that he died like a dog, laying 676 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: there in his bed like a coward with his stupid beard. 677 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost exactly this sort of how do 678 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 3: you parody it? Exactly? 679 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: Sugar honey iced tea hole. 680 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 4: Spelled jack, I get it, okay, tumbled. 681 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: Remember, like the Prime Minister Vitaly said, if you thought 682 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 3: last year was bad, next year's gonna be worse. 683 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 2: Thanks for that, sweetheart. 684 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show, More Joe podcasts and our 685 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: hot links and