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Speaker 4: wrestling coming up this weekend, and as always that starts tonight.
Speaker 4: Much like the Wu Tang Clan, Brian Alvarez is for
Speaker 4: the children, and he's with his kids right now, trying
Speaker 4: to relax a little bit before he has his busy
Speaker 4: weekend fire up, as he's going to Collision on Saturday
Speaker 4: night and then once again on Sunday heading to the
Speaker 4: Climate Pledge Arena to watch ae W Russell Dream. I
Speaker 4: keep wanting to call it Russell Quest, and I can't
Speaker 4: do that. That's a completely different event. Wressell Dream, the
Speaker 4: tribute to Antonio and Noochi, and will definitely be getting
Speaker 4: into that. I'm not sure when Brian is going to
Speaker 4: be back for subscribers, if he's going to do two
Speaker 4: shows after NXT and then after Russell Dream on Sunday,
Speaker 4: But just keep your eyes peeled over to Wrestling Observer
Speaker 4: dot com and we'll let you know when he's going
Speaker 4: to be back. If nothing else, he will be back
Speaker 4: with me on Monday and then we can wrap up
Speaker 4: what is going to be a incredibly busy weekend. SmackDown
Speaker 4: is tonight, as it always is Friday Nights Live on Fox.
Speaker 4: LA Night is reportedly ready to return. Will he be
Speaker 4: the man to assist John Cena in his battle against
Speaker 4: the Bloodline. Surely we will see commercials I would assume
Speaker 4: for Saturday Nights NXT no Mercy event, and I'll give
Speaker 4: you my predictions for that show. With it being Friday,
Speaker 4: it's also CMLL day in their weekly show. I love
Speaker 4: that show in Arena Mexico and it's actually a Night
Speaker 4: of Champions showcase with all title matches taking place. Triple
Speaker 4: A is running this weekend with their heroes in Mortalite's
Speaker 4: show and start them the five Star Grand Prix, which
Speaker 4: seems to have gone on for months because it has
Speaker 4: is finally coming to an end. We'll get into as
Speaker 4: much as we can, and we'll start when we get
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Speaker 4: Got to get in some plugs here too. While boss
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Speaker 2: Maybe you could also, Mike, you could also check me
Speaker 2: out at Filthy Tom Lawler on the X as well.
Speaker 4: We could, we could. You're here. I didn't expect you
Speaker 4: to show up. I didn't expect you to pop in
Speaker 4: the door here.
Speaker 2: You presented me with an olive branch and invitation. Did
Speaker 2: you join? I asked for you to send me a
Speaker 2: video link, which I never received in.
Speaker 4: Charge of the video links here.
Speaker 2: Well, no, but I mean it does add a certain
Speaker 2: flavor to my day when I get to look at
Speaker 2: your beautiful face.
Speaker 4: Well, and everybody wants to see your beautiful face as
Speaker 4: well too, So I am sure Producer John is on
Speaker 4: that right now, and we'll be sending you out a
Speaker 4: link or maybe a link to me that I can
Speaker 4: forward to you so we can see Filthy Tom Lawler
Speaker 4: here on this show and filthy you know, I don't
Speaker 4: know if you are aware of Headlock Comics or not,
Speaker 4: but I have to get this plug out of the
Speaker 4: way before I move on, because Michael Kingston is going
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Speaker 4: and they have done a lot of great work he's
Speaker 4: been on in the past. So go to Headline Comic
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Speaker 4: to check that out. But now that that's out of
Speaker 4: the way, what are you doing here right now? Should
Speaker 4: you not be in Seattle knocking down doors and maybe
Speaker 4: knocking over Adam Cole in a wheelchair?
Speaker 2: I should be. I should have already defeated Adam Cole,
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, Mike, now that you bring it up, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: I would like to take a little bit of credit
Speaker 2: for Adam Cole being in that wheelchair, because if you
Speaker 2: remember back to three or four months ago when I
Speaker 2: showed up on rampage and attacked the old porcelain pansy
Speaker 2: Adam Cole, I attacked his leg and look what happened.
Speaker 2: He did a routine jump off a stage and came
Speaker 2: up limp, came up. His leg is now flaccid, all
Speaker 2: because of me sustained damage months ago. Finally caught up
Speaker 2: to him.
Speaker 4: You know, I am surprised that MJF. And I know
Speaker 4: now that he's got one friend, he's kind of screwed
Speaker 4: up right now. But I mean he's the one that
Speaker 4: jumped on the horn and called you to help lead
Speaker 4: that attack on Adam Cole and to do some damage
Speaker 4: before those two faced off. But I mean, where's the
Speaker 4: call to help defeat the Righteous on Sunday? Has MJF
Speaker 4: lost your number? Do you have heat with MJF.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the situation is. I believe it's
Speaker 2: all part of a bigger plan on mjf's part. I
Speaker 2: don't know that I fit into that larger plan. However,
Speaker 2: there may not be any happenings with me, but there
Speaker 2: are gonna be ton this weekend, even if I'm not
Speaker 2: in Seattle at the wrestle dream.
Speaker 4: Is that where you'd like to start, sir, because there
Speaker 4: are plenty of places we could I mean, we could
Speaker 4: talk about only Night coming back. I mean that's pretty
Speaker 4: big with the COVID and all that. Maybe he's there
Speaker 4: to save John Cena to Night from the bloodline.
Speaker 2: That has been rumored. It sounds like they would be
Speaker 2: moving in that direction using AJ styles as sort of
Speaker 2: a placeholder last week, and you could always go back
Speaker 2: towards that direction if something with La Knight doesn't work out.
Speaker 2: Although you know, I'm no doctor, but I would imagine
Speaker 2: that he won't be getting COVID again this season, so
Speaker 2: you would think that he'd be free and clear for
Speaker 2: the upcoming fast Lane pay per view or fast Lane
Speaker 2: Premium live event.
Speaker 4: Yes, as there are premium live events, especially if they're
Speaker 4: coming from Saudi Arabia, which is another thing that you
Speaker 4: know again when it comes to this stuff coming up.
Speaker 4: Dave wrote about it in The Observer this week, which
Speaker 4: is up for subscribers on Wrestling Observer dot com, but
Speaker 4: he writes, quote Night, who was very hot right now
Speaker 4: when it comes to all facets of business and reactions,
Speaker 4: appears to be groomed for a Roman Reigns title shot
Speaker 4: in the not too distant future. Rains has no obvious
Speaker 4: contender at this point and will be defending on the
Speaker 4: November fourth show in Saudi Arabia. So obviously La Knight's
Speaker 4: COVID was terrible and terrible timing with him not being
Speaker 4: able to be there on last week's edition of SmackDown,
Speaker 4: but obviously they had more time to try to get
Speaker 4: him back in the mix. He's now cleared, he's here,
Speaker 4: but at a time where Roman Reigns really did not
Speaker 4: have any other contender out there, him getting hot at
Speaker 4: really right now we're in the last couple of months.
Speaker 4: I mean, this could not have been a better collision
Speaker 4: of worlds for him, because does it get any better
Speaker 4: than that, the shot against Roman Reigns and being next
Speaker 4: to John Cena.
Speaker 2: Not really to go from doing car commercials, being an extra,
Speaker 2: sitting in the crowd at times, and then being in
Speaker 2: the Impact Zone during the dying days of the Impact
Speaker 2: Zone to now being positioned in the spot that he's
Speaker 2: in on SmackDown must be a dream come true. And
Speaker 2: I think that perhaps you know to not to use
Speaker 2: a cliche too much, but perhaps there was a shining
Speaker 2: light or you know, perhaps the COVID the situation doesn't
Speaker 2: end up being a bad thing in retrospect because they've
Speaker 2: been trying to get over. La Knight is kind of
Speaker 2: the working guy, the working man's wrestler. He's put in
Speaker 2: all this time throughout the years. And another guy who's
Speaker 2: like that is Aj Styles, right, who's without La Knight
Speaker 2: having covid aj styles wouldn't have been put in the
Speaker 2: position to be beat up and ravaged and destroyed last week,
Speaker 2: and now you'll essentially have La Knight coming to you know,
Speaker 2: even up the score on his behalf in a way,
Speaker 2: whether it's displayed like that or not. So I think
Speaker 2: that that's gonna pay off. Saudi Arabia, the probable future
Speaker 2: owners of Bellator in some way are certainly getting all
Speaker 2: these big events, aren't they. La Night and Roman Reigns.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's one of the hottest acts of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, if not the hottest act of twenty three,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, taking on the hottest act that they've
Speaker 2: had over the past five years. I don't even know,
Speaker 2: you know, I guess you could make a case for sammy'
Speaker 2: z ain in the lead up to him losing to
Speaker 2: Roman Reigns last year was just on another level. But
Speaker 2: La Knight's gotta be as close as anybody's gonna be
Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 4: You think the lever let us know what the initials
Speaker 4: LA stand for. I think it's like Lucius R. Buckle Knight.
Speaker 4: You think they'll actually have something there for La Night there?
Speaker 2: I have no clue. I don't even have.
Speaker 4: Well, look, you know, we're getting about a minute and
Speaker 4: a half away here from going to break, but we
Speaker 4: can kind of fit in with what else is going
Speaker 4: on with WWE right now, with the exception of NXD
Speaker 4: No Mercy. We'll get into that a little more detail
Speaker 4: coming up later on. But the rest of SmackDown Ray
Speaker 4: Mysterio defending the United States title against Santos Escobar. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to hope for the best in this, Tom, but
Speaker 4: you know, Bobby Lashley's gonna be on the Grayson Waller effect.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's gonna be talking about the street profits.
Speaker 4: I mean to me, I would actually like to see
Speaker 4: them run in and beat up both Mysterio and Escobar.
Speaker 4: Not because I don't want a crappy finish or anything
Speaker 4: like that, but just because I want Mysterio and Escobar
Speaker 4: to stay together.
Speaker 2: You, Mike, are certainly not a street profit. However, you
Speaker 2: just may be a street profit because based on what
Speaker 2: they did last week with Bobby Lashley telling Dawkins and
Speaker 2: Ford to go sit in catering or to pick it up,
Speaker 2: give them back the suits, get out of his face.
Speaker 2: They need to make a statement, and what better statement
Speaker 2: to make than beating up both of the men that
Speaker 2: seemingly have or are going for the title that Bobby Lashley.
Speaker 4: Has his eyes set on, and also Charlotte Blair. The
Speaker 4: only other thing they have announced that Charlotte is going
Speaker 4: to be facing Hofkins Bailey their first singles match since
Speaker 4: May of twenty twenty. They have not feuded since the
Speaker 4: end of twenty and nineteen, so if they get those
Speaker 4: two together, it's been a while since we've seen them
Speaker 4: actually in action, even though they're so joined at the
Speaker 4: hip by being, you know, two of the four horse
Speaker 4: women at least in WWE terms of being horsewomen. Filthy
Speaker 4: Tom and I will be back back on the show
Speaker 4: Wrestling Observer Live. Mike Sepfervivi and Felthy Tom Lawler here
Speaker 4: with you, getting you ready for a busy weekend in
Speaker 4: the world of professional wrestling. Half naked men and women
Speaker 4: getting busy on a canvas met It's going to happen,
Speaker 4: and it begins tonight Friday Night. We talked a little
Speaker 4: bit about SmackDown already, Rampage has already been taped. We
Speaker 4: won't give you any spoilers for that show. In fact,
Speaker 4: we won't even preview that show, to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: you can find out all the information you need to
Speaker 4: know about that over at Wrestling Observer dot com. Before
Speaker 4: we get anything else, though, Tom, I gotta ask you,
Speaker 4: do you believe kfabe is dead?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: You know what, You're right about that, And as long
Speaker 4: as there is a Merriam Webster Dictionary, kfabe will never
Speaker 4: be dead. It is one of the words, one of
Speaker 4: the six hundred and ninety words that has been added
Speaker 4: to the Official Mayor Webster Dictionary. How does that make
Speaker 4: you feel as a proprietor and an architect of k fabe.
Speaker 2: Congratulations to all the favors out there. They are Uriah Hogan.
Speaker 2: One of the biggest ones are Brian Alvarez.
Speaker 4: Yes, if we're talking about non Uriah favors, Brian Alvarez
Speaker 4: definitely at the top of that list, and obviously he's
Speaker 4: going to be at the shows coming up here in Seattle.
Speaker 4: The first big event, though not talking about Collision, The
Speaker 4: first big event of the weekend takes place on Saturday,
Speaker 4: and that is NXT No Mercy from the Mechanics Bank
Speaker 4: Arena in Bakersfield, California. Technically the first premium live event
Speaker 4: under the TKO banner. And regardless of what you think
Speaker 4: about the show week after week and and some of
Speaker 4: the wacky things that take place on NXT, they really
Speaker 4: have given us, I think a hell of a show,
Speaker 4: at least on paper, this has the opportunity. Again. It's
Speaker 4: not gonna I don't think beat Russell dream, but there
Speaker 4: are some sneaky great matches on this show. Have you
Speaker 4: thought at all about this card and what you think
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking right now about Ilia dragon Off hitting one
Speaker 2: of those patented Dan Henderson's style h bombs onto the
Speaker 2: dome of Carmelo, and I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm hoping.
Speaker 2: I'm praying as a big fan. I'm a fan of
Speaker 2: Mellow too, but I'm hoping that Ilia doesn't miss with
Speaker 2: that big punch.
Speaker 4: I don't think he will. I think it's his time.
Speaker 4: I think this is the perfect time for Ilia dragging
Speaker 4: Off to win that title. And it's not just because
Speaker 4: of Trick Williams and him possibly winning the North American
Speaker 4: title and continuing on something with Carmelo. It's more about
Speaker 4: Ilia Dragonoff. Carmelo's already had that belt, He's already had
Speaker 4: all the belts you can have in NXD. I don't
Speaker 4: know if he's had the tag belts or not, but
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying here with Dragonoff, I think
Speaker 4: this is the perfect opportunity to go ahead and pass
Speaker 4: that torch because who knows how long Carmelo Hayes is
Speaker 4: going to be down there, you know. I could see
Speaker 4: it being only until around the Royal Rumble, you know,
Speaker 4: and we could see Carmelo Hayes come up. I don't know,
Speaker 4: and he's still got a lot of business down there
Speaker 4: with his friendship with Trick and whatever's going to happen there.
Speaker 4: But I think for no other reason, Dragonoff, if you
Speaker 4: could say you've earned a title in professional wrestling, which
Speaker 4: is always penciled in by somebody else, I mean, Dragonoff
Speaker 4: really has kind of deserved it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been around for years and years and years.
Speaker 2: I believe he actually was done at one point, right.
Speaker 2: I believe you had like a short retirement or something
Speaker 2: might have gone back, do some researchers. I don't sound
Speaker 2: like a total idiot.
Speaker 4: I think you're right though, because I think didn't he
Speaker 4: have a break after the matches that he had with
Speaker 4: Walter or was it right before that or right after that?
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about well before then, well before East
Speaker 2: and back in like wXw or wherever he would have been. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think now's the time. I think you pull the
Speaker 2: trigger with him. He's put on great performances in every
Speaker 2: single match I have seen him in, whether it's with Walter,
Speaker 2: whether it's with Trick Williams, whether it's with a non
Speaker 2: functioning blubber of mass. I'm positive that you're dragging off.
Speaker 2: Could have a good match with them. So I think
Speaker 2: you put the belt on him here. And you mentioned
Speaker 2: Carmelo Hayes. Sure, he's got plenty of unfinished business that
Speaker 2: you go back to with Trick Williams. I would love
Speaker 2: to see this be one of the rare times where
Speaker 2: there's not a big breakup, they don't get into a
Speaker 2: big fight. Carmelo moves up to the main roster. Remember
Speaker 2: a few months ago he showed up and he was
Speaker 2: talking to Bobby Lashly. Maybe the Street profits bring him
Speaker 2: in as the catalyst to putting them over the edge,
Speaker 2: and then Trick Williams can kind of assume the role
Speaker 2: that Carmelo has had on NXT and you and you
Speaker 2: push that back to the future.
Speaker 4: I'd love to see it, and I it's in this
Speaker 4: The North American title match is really interesting because obviously
Speaker 4: Dragon Lee is going to be the special referee. Dominic
Speaker 4: Mysterio has been a fantastic heat magnet as part of
Speaker 4: Judgment Day. He's been wonderful in that role. He's been
Speaker 4: wonderful in the role of playing off Rhea Ripley you
Speaker 4: you know him with the title makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's again, it's just extra heat that this guy, even
Speaker 4: though he won a really good match in the fans mind,
Speaker 4: from a KFA point of view, this guy doesn't deserve
Speaker 4: that title. He's not worthy of that title. He keeps
Speaker 4: getting saved for that title. But with Trick Williams, I mean,
Speaker 4: you don't have to pull a trigger now or anything
Speaker 4: like that, but he has looked fantastic And if you
Speaker 4: are gonna have Dragon Off, if Dragonoff is going to
Speaker 4: defeat Carmelo Hayes, do you go ahead and pull this
Speaker 4: trigger now or do you continue to use Dominick and
Speaker 4: use the Judgment Day as a wedge issue for Trick
Speaker 4: Williams that affects him and Carmelo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you keep this belt on, dominic He's
Speaker 2: been doing a great job, and the proof is in
Speaker 2: the ratings. I mean how often. I mean, sure there's
Speaker 2: a ple coming up. But I've noticed more talk recently
Speaker 2: about NXT that I remember hearing in the past year
Speaker 2: or so on a consistent basis. Whether it's been the
Speaker 2: work of Ilia Dragonoff, whether it's been the storyline and
Speaker 2: it's very simple storyline between Trick and Carmelo, whether it's
Speaker 2: been the use of Becky Lynch, Baron Corbin getting cheered,
Speaker 2: you know, vociferously a few months back. There has been
Speaker 2: more noteworthy stuff going on on NXT, as evidenced by
Speaker 2: the fact that we're sitting here on a Friday afternoon
Speaker 2: when there's an aw pay per view coming up. There's
Speaker 2: SmackDown tonight. There's probably a litany of other things I'm
Speaker 2: forgetting that are happening this weekend. You know, we're spending
Speaker 2: a lot of time here talking about an NXC show.
Speaker 4: Well, it's probably gonna be a pretty good show. Again,
Speaker 4: Dominican Trick isn't going to be any sort of you know,
Speaker 4: technical masterpiece, but it doesn't have to be, you know,
Speaker 4: it just has to be good Carmelo Hazing and Ilio
Speaker 4: is gonna be great. Becky Lynch and Tiffany Stratton. I
Speaker 4: have high hopes for here, and it's an extreme rules
Speaker 4: match for the women's title. I would say Tiffany Stratton
Speaker 4: wins that title back. I could be crazy here, but
Speaker 4: I'm going with Tiffany Stratton. What do you think.
Speaker 2: When they originally booked this feud? I would have thought
Speaker 2: she'd win it back here. But did they announce a
Speaker 2: defense against Tiagan Knox or something on Raw? Isn't that
Speaker 2: what's happening? Well?
Speaker 4: Tiagan Knox defeated Natalia, right, is that where she's facing Natalia?
Speaker 4: Or did she defeat inn Italian? She defeated Natalia? Correct, Yeah,
Speaker 4: she did with the shiniest weather Wizard.
Speaker 2: So no, if you checked your messages, maybe you know
Speaker 2: I said I didn't watch anything yet. Well it's me
Speaker 2: to come on the show. I said I didn't watch
Speaker 2: anything this week. I'm in.
Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't matter. Look, Tigan Knox got the You
Speaker 4: have to tell me what happened. So did Teagan Knox
Speaker 4: got the victory over Natalia? So she's gotten NXT title shot.
Speaker 4: She's got that. She doesn't necessarily have it against Becky Lynch.
Speaker 4: I mean, it could be Tiffany Stratton if you wanted
Speaker 4: to give her a little showcase on Raw next week.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 2: It's a pick them in mind.
Speaker 4: Wanting to pick them there. I'm going with no amdor
Speaker 4: over Butch, that's for sure. And I don't want to
Speaker 4: say that this is gonna be the best match of
Speaker 4: the show because the time limit is what limits it, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: whereas Carmelo and Elia won't have that. And obviously Becky
Speaker 4: and Tiffany have the extreme rules gimmick that they should.
Speaker 4: They can go around, but for the time it takes place,
Speaker 4: this ought to be awesome between these two.
Speaker 2: And I don't look at the stipulation, and I guess
Speaker 2: really you're not looking at the stipulation as a downside,
Speaker 2: but rather the time limit. But I look at that
Speaker 2: as a benefit, you know, Mike, I watch awesome, great
Speaker 2: professional wrestling on TV. I watch awesome, great professional wrestling
Speaker 2: live when I'm at independent shows on the weekend. I
Speaker 2: know what awesome one on one matches look like. These
Speaker 2: heritage rules that's a little different, you know, And I'm
Speaker 2: all four different.
Speaker 4: Have you ever wrestled round style.
Speaker 2: I have done one British rounds rules match against Travis
Speaker 2: Huckabee at a Paradigm Pro show, but I don't believe
Speaker 2: that that's even the same rules that these have, right.
Speaker 4: No, these are again, these are modified, but I guess
Speaker 4: really in that vein of those. But I'll go no
Speaker 4: MDR to me. Holding onto that title is the only
Speaker 4: thing that really makes sense there, unless the brawling brutes
Speaker 4: are going to be hanging out in NXT, which not
Speaker 4: the worst thing in the world. If if anybody other
Speaker 4: than Shamus were to hang out back in NXT for
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 2: Mike, my younger years were spent doing rounds matches three
Speaker 2: five minute rounds every day, five minute rounds, ad nauseum
Speaker 2: for eighteen years of my life or something.
Speaker 4: Well, did you ever have a see you know what?
Speaker 4: You never worked for Jeff Osborne and Hook and Shoots.
Speaker 4: There's no way you could have had a fatal four
Speaker 4: way tag team MMA match. Not that they're gonna have
Speaker 4: one at the NXT show, but boy, that would have
Speaker 4: been amazing. It would have been amazing.
Speaker 2: They didn't fight for Zest either.
Speaker 4: That's a deep pull right there. We're gonna pull it
Speaker 4: together here during the break and be back with more
Speaker 4: predictions on what's taking place this weekend on Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 4: Back on the show, Mike sippervib Filthy, Tom Lawler here
Speaker 4: with you Wrestling Observer Live, the whole format with out
Speaker 4: the window here been prattling about. Got a bunch of
Speaker 4: stuff to still get into, not at the least of
Speaker 4: which is the rest of this No Mercy Card Again
Speaker 4: tag team title where we left off fatal four way.
Speaker 4: Look with all these teams in the match. I hated
Speaker 4: the skits that took place on this week's NXT. Their corny,
Speaker 4: their goof and everything, but it was just they were
Speaker 4: It was too long, it was too much, and I'd
Speaker 4: rather just see the Creed Brothers against Tony D'Angelo and Stacks.
Speaker 4: But I'm going with Stacks and Tony di'angelo here to
Speaker 4: retain the titles because why take them off of them
Speaker 4: right now? Both he didn't care about this, He doesn't
Speaker 4: care about this. He's looking things up right now, he's.
Speaker 2: Watching something, but well there's really not much.
Speaker 4: Hey, Look, Kalanie Jordan against Blair Davin pointers Port is
Speaker 4: going to be taking place too. They did add that
Speaker 4: to the pre show. But Barry Corbin and bron Breaker
Speaker 4: is really the only other match on the show, and
Speaker 4: the hope is, of course Slaberknocker. We want to see violence,
Speaker 4: we want to see as much ridiculous stuff to happen.
Speaker 4: We've seen them bash through walls, We've seen them, you know,
Speaker 4: slam each other on top of cars and beat each
Speaker 4: other to pieces. Here I am assuming I'll go out
Speaker 4: on a lemon. Say, Baron Corbyn gets the victory here
Speaker 4: over bron Breaker, but that's only because we see some
Speaker 4: revenge come from the young Beverly boy there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is his name? Von Kaiser Von von Wagner.
Speaker 2: Von Kaiser is the guy from Mike Tyson's Punch Out fu.
Speaker 4: Oh man, you got you got a choice on that one.
Speaker 4: You're going with Big Baron? Are you going with non?
Speaker 2: I think you called it. I think it's I think
Speaker 2: it's time for von Kaiser to enact his revenge.
Speaker 4: It's time for us to move to Collision as well
Speaker 4: to and to Wrestle Dream, which is coming up Saturday. Look,
Speaker 4: there's not much to be said about Collision because they
Speaker 4: have not added a whole lot. It's Andrade Ledlo against
Speaker 4: Juice Robinson right now, which of course plays into last
Speaker 4: week with with Jay Andrade, and the only other match
Speaker 4: that's scheduled right now is best Friends against the Kingdom,
Speaker 4: So one would assume the Kingdom should get the victory
Speaker 4: there considering they're in one of the main events storylines
Speaker 4: as we go into Wrestle Dream and go into next
Speaker 4: week with aw and as I mentioned, Climate Pledge Arena
Speaker 4: in Seattle, same place they're going to be hosting Collision
Speaker 4: on Saturday. They'll be there on Sunday for the pay
Speaker 4: per view. Is Brian Danielson and Zach Saber Junior. The
Speaker 4: main event of this show, is it MJF and the Righteous?
Speaker 4: Because there may be something more storyline wise that comes
Speaker 4: out of it. What do you do in this case?
Speaker 4: Because to me, with it being a tribute to Anochie
Speaker 4: and with all a lot of the attention, even though
Speaker 4: I'm sure there are some mainstream fans that are not
Speaker 4: hardcore wrestling fans that are rolling their eyes at why
Speaker 4: everybody else is so excited about Brian Danielson and Zach Saber.
Speaker 4: To me, that is the the perfect way to end
Speaker 4: that show, at least on paper.
Speaker 2: I think that that will be the main event. Since
Speaker 2: this show was announced. It was the first match announced,
Speaker 2: and it is a match that as people have been
Speaker 2: looking forward to, quite frankly for years now. These two
Speaker 2: have faced off competed against each other in the past,
Speaker 2: but that was a different time, and Zach Saber Junior
Speaker 2: has quite frankly gotten himself to the point where he
Speaker 2: is one of, if not the best wrestlers in the world,
Speaker 2: right up alongside Brian Danielson or Yeah, I always forget,
Speaker 2: I always screw it up. They did that to us,
Speaker 2: That to us, Brian Danielson, Yeah, and I think that
Speaker 2: is the best way to end this show. When you
Speaker 2: look at the card, I don't think you put MJF
Speaker 2: and the Righteous as the main event, regardless of what
Speaker 2: storyline you have coming out of that. A lot of
Speaker 2: people were really down. I saw online about the Righteous winning,
Speaker 2: and if you watch the Righteous win the four way
Speaker 2: tag match wherever it was a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: I mean, they get over when they wrestle in front
Speaker 2: of the crowd, but it seems as if they're kind
Speaker 2: of a placeholder here for what I would think would
Speaker 2: be MJF winning and then eventually losing these belts to
Speaker 2: the Kingdom. But you know, I could be wrong.
Speaker 4: I would usually I'm splitting on who I want to
Speaker 4: take in this match, because you know, Brian Danielson probably
Speaker 4: has a match coming up against Okada in January. I
Speaker 4: would be very surprised He's certainly going to have a
Speaker 4: match coming up against someone if he chooses to go
Speaker 4: to the Tokyo Dome. But man, like you mentioned, Zach
Speaker 4: Saberginior has had a hell of a year. He has
Speaker 4: been hot, he got tmd K over, he's been he's
Speaker 4: been fantastic, And I there's part of me that says,
Speaker 4: and look, I think if it was left up to
Speaker 4: Brian Danielson, he would say not Zack saber Junior is
Speaker 4: going over. But it's an interesting thing here because he
Speaker 4: is one of AEW's biggest stars. And for as much
Speaker 4: as we love Zack saber Junior, Zack saber Junior is
Speaker 4: not a big AEW star, And unlike a Osprey or
Speaker 4: unlike an Ossie Open who has already come over that
Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be in the tea, leaves that he's
Speaker 4: going to be an aw guy quote unquote anytime soon.
Speaker 4: So what do you do?
Speaker 2: In this situation, I I think Zach Saber Junior wins.
Speaker 2: The reason I think that is because he has a
Speaker 2: match also coming up with will Osprey a few weeks
Speaker 2: afterwards at Royal Quest two three leaf something like that,
Speaker 2: three uh, and he has been positioned as one of
Speaker 2: the strongest competit in New Japan and really in Ring
Speaker 2: of Honor and ae W when he's competed there this year.
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, I think the wind helps
Speaker 2: him a lot more than it does Daniel Brian. I
Speaker 2: agree with it, Daniel, Brian Danielson, I agree.
Speaker 4: With you, and I again, the only thing that would
Speaker 4: would lean me against that is because again Brian Danielsen,
Speaker 4: this is an AW show, not a New Japan show,
Speaker 4: and Brian Danielsen is there again, is one of the
Speaker 4: biggest stars there. Hangman out in Paige and Swee.
Speaker 2: But you know, also Anok, Mike Anoki was always known
Speaker 2: for putting over people, right, so maybe this is the
Speaker 2: Maybe this is Daniel Brian, he I couldn't even keep
Speaker 2: a straight face.
Speaker 4: Yeah say no, noted noted put her over is there?
Speaker 4: Hangman out of Paige. I have a feeling he is
Speaker 4: going to be putting over Swerved Strickland and his hometown
Speaker 4: of Seattle, that is for sure. I think Swerve has
Speaker 4: been hot. I'd like to see him get the victory here.
Speaker 4: I'd like to see Ricky Starks get the victory over Wheeler.
Speaker 4: You toa too, But when it comes to Page and
Speaker 4: Swerve right now, what do you do to me? I
Speaker 4: think it's a no brainer that Swarve gets the win.
Speaker 4: And I almost feel a little bit bad for the
Speaker 4: hangman here because he almost always has the crowd on
Speaker 4: his side. But I don't know if it would Swerve
Speaker 4: around in his hometown. I wonder how that's gonna be.
Speaker 2: I think Swerve, I'm hoping he gets a statement a
Speaker 2: definitive win here over hangman Page. I think I would
Speaker 2: do wonders for him. He's been on the verge multiple times.
Speaker 2: He had a great performance against ton of Hashi. I
Speaker 2: remember over the summer right and that was like arguably
Speaker 2: one of ton of Hashi's worst days, right, like right
Speaker 2: off the airplane, look like he could barely get up there.
Speaker 2: I didn't ye because he slipped on the top rope. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Swerve before then looked like a superstar. He's put
Speaker 2: on God. I used to see him at MLW shows
Speaker 2: five six years ago something like that. And the amount
Speaker 2: of size he's put on and like quality mass too,
Speaker 2: is noticeable and makes him an even bigger star when
Speaker 2: you see him in person. So I'm very high. I
Speaker 2: buy the stock that swerves selling, I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 4: You know, there's all this and again this is and
Speaker 4: we won't talk about it, but there's all this hullaballoo.
Speaker 4: Allow would you bring in Matt Riddle? You know that's
Speaker 4: always the name at the top of the list, and
Speaker 4: people talking about Dolve Zigler other people. But it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, Andrade l Edeloh, Yes, Rush is having an
Speaker 4: issue I would assume right now with visas. I don't
Speaker 4: know what it is, but like Rush, Buddy, Matthews, Swerve, Strickland,
Speaker 4: Ricky Starks, like, you need to worry about those guys
Speaker 4: before you bring anybody else send to muddy the waters,
Speaker 4: because you have these horses that are already under contract
Speaker 4: with you. But you have them. You know, you haven't
Speaker 4: saddled him up yet. You haven't been able to really
Speaker 4: get a hold of him and broken him and figure
Speaker 4: out what you want to do with these guys yet.
Speaker 4: And I hope these guys continue to get the opportunity
Speaker 4: in page and Swarve Strickland is just to me, that's
Speaker 4: a great That's something that is definitely only ae W's.
Speaker 4: They're the ones who put that out. They're the ones
Speaker 4: who have created this feud, and I have a feeling
Speaker 4: it won't be done yet. So I hope Swarve does
Speaker 4: get the victory here. And I hope Ricky Starks gets
Speaker 4: the victory over Wheeler. You to too. I don't see
Speaker 4: any other reason for him not to get that victory,
Speaker 4: considering he's coming off this stuff with Brian Danielson. But
Speaker 4: Kenny Omega, Chris Jericho, Kodo Abushi against the don Kallus
Speaker 4: family Takeshna, Sammy Gavara and will Ospray. Man. I want
Speaker 4: to go heavy heels here, but man, I don't know
Speaker 4: don Kallus family. Hard to go against them here, At
Speaker 4: least for me, it's hard to go against the mirror.
Speaker 2: You've got to think there will be some sort of
Speaker 2: miscommunication on the part of Omega Jericho, Aboushi Jericho where
Speaker 2: even if it doesn't lead to them fighting necessarily in fighting,
Speaker 2: you know, it could lead to plenty of opportunities for
Speaker 2: the Heels to take advantage, and I think that the
Speaker 2: Callus Family winning, you know, really solidifies them as another
Speaker 2: top heel act. And with like the BCC moving back
Speaker 2: seemingly to the face side, I think that, I mean,
Speaker 2: what's happening with the Bullet Club Gold here, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like you would think if it's MJF
Speaker 2: and we're trying to be led by somebody to believe
Speaker 2: that it's MJF or maybe Adam Cole attacking Jay White,
Speaker 2: but that seemingly positions Bullet Club Gold kind of his
Speaker 2: baby faces too, which I wouldn't necessarily say is a
Speaker 2: bad thing, because with how wacky and over the top
Speaker 2: they've been recently, I think they're gonna have a hard
Speaker 2: time being really you know, rallied against as hardcore heels
Speaker 2: by this fan base.
Speaker 4: They're like be acclaimed. They they are so entertaining and
Speaker 4: so good in their roles, and let's be honest, Juice
Speaker 4: Robinson and Jay White are great, you know, compared to
Speaker 4: the Guns who have a lot less experience, but they
Speaker 4: are just complete walking cartoon characters. You know, you do
Speaker 4: have the ability to kind of waver them back and forth,
Speaker 4: you know to face heels like the House of Black
Speaker 4: or to Face you know a team of baby faces
Speaker 4: as well too. But I would love to see that
Speaker 4: exchange between the Bullet Club and the don Kallis family
Speaker 4: if they decide to go in that direction. I mean,
Speaker 4: that is there's a lot of good. There's a lot
Speaker 4: to like about that. MJF and the Righteous. Do you
Speaker 4: think it's a case where MJF. To me again, the
Speaker 4: Righteous are in a funny spot here, because if you're
Speaker 4: gonna do anything with them, you still need to make
Speaker 4: them look strong, even if they're gonna slip on a
Speaker 4: banana peal or somebody's going to interfere and give MJF
Speaker 4: the victory here.
Speaker 2: Does Roderck Strong show up and get involved. That's that's
Speaker 2: the obvious thing, right, like a either cost he's got
Speaker 2: to cost Righteous the match to try to save the
Speaker 2: titles for his friend Adam or something along those lines.
Speaker 2: I would think. But yeah, I've got it. I think
Speaker 2: MJF retains. I think that the team with him and
Speaker 2: Cole is too hot still, even with Cole's injury to
Speaker 2: split up. There's so many great things you could do
Speaker 2: if Cole's around on television or able to do some
Speaker 2: backstage segments with him and MJF buddying up. I think
Speaker 2: that this is actually a perfect opportunity to extend their
Speaker 2: relationship a little bit longer.
Speaker 4: All right, FTR against Aussie Open. I'm taking FTR even
Speaker 4: though it's another big loss for Aussie Open. What do
Speaker 4: you think?
Speaker 2: I agree?
Speaker 4: Chris Statland or Julie Hart? Chris Statlander? What do you got?
Speaker 2: I agree?
Speaker 4: Kristin Cage, Darby Allen. Who you got?
Speaker 2: Christian Retains.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying too. We'll get into Eddie Kingston
Speaker 4: and Katsiori Shabata when we get back wrestlum Serverlive.
Speaker 3: I'm again, that's why you were listening to Wrestling Observer
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Speaker 4: Back on the show, Mike Sipper, bv Filthy, Tom Lawler
Speaker 4: here with you. We've wrapped up a Friday. It just
Speaker 4: flew by. Where did he go? Where did he go? Tom?
Speaker 2: Hopefully not into the ether. I'm hoping somebody press record
Speaker 2: on the machine onlike on Monday when Brian and I
Speaker 2: were doing our show.
Speaker 4: That's a this is all on producer. Wait, he had
Speaker 4: a problem on your show as well too. He forgot
Speaker 4: to record a whole segment with Dom this week. I
Speaker 4: swear to God.
Speaker 2: About thirty minutes twenty or thirty minutes in on Monday,
Speaker 2: he goes, i'd ever hit record? Is this a dude?
Speaker 2: What is going on here?
Speaker 4: Man is absolutely cooked? And you know who else would
Speaker 4: be cook the trip if he had any guts to
Speaker 4: get into the ring with you. And I'm not here
Speaker 4: to because I don't want to Timberland in my iran.
Speaker 4: But Eddie Kingston Katsuyori Shabata for only Eddie's ROH World
Speaker 4: and NJPW Strong titles. You once held that title. Have
Speaker 4: you ever faced Eddie king Have you? When is the
Speaker 4: last time you faced Eddie Kingston? If ever, is he
Speaker 4: scared of you?
Speaker 2: I am the first and longest reigning New Japan Strong
Speaker 2: open weight champion of all time. I have faced Eddie
Speaker 2: Kingston twice. I am two and zero against him. I
Speaker 2: would have gone face to face with him more times
Speaker 2: in the past. He called me out to do a
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu class with him, and I showed up and
Speaker 2: he was nowhere to be seen. So I've got a
Speaker 2: bone to pick with this gentleman. But we'll see if
Speaker 2: he makes it past Katsirora Shabata because the last time
Speaker 2: there was an Anoch tribute show was Anoki bombay A
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two where the headlining match, the headlining fight
Speaker 2: was Katsira Shabata against me Filthy Tom Lawler, and unfortunately,
Speaker 2: Katsira Shabata walked away the victor in exactly twelve minutes
Speaker 2: thirty seconds each kne san.
Speaker 4: He outside a handful of trunks. He did he won't
Speaker 4: admit that.
Speaker 2: I submitted.
Speaker 4: Hey, everybody out there, thank you for joining me. I
Speaker 4: really want to thank Filthy Tom Lalla for jumping on
Speaker 4: and enjoining me. I hope Lance should get better soon. Carl,
Speaker 4: thank god you're alive and we shall talk to you
Speaker 4: all again after a while.
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