Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: And welcome back to another episode of No Sealer's Podcast
Speaker 2: with your host.
Speaker 3: Now fuck that with your low glasses, Malone.
Speaker 1: Pet dog, what's the deal.
Speaker 4: You tell me?
Speaker 1: I've been setting up.
Speaker 2: My most monumental press run ever, like I finally understood how.
Speaker 1: To use Twitter, Cool, Instagram.
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm waiting all the mics right there. That's funny.
Speaker 2: You know what Mike you're speaking into Okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 4: He's holding a press conference, we're doing a podcast.
Speaker 2: You looks like he's about to go fight. Lennox Lewis
Speaker 2: had a crazy thought on Way Conflict tweeted. He was
Speaker 2: saying how Twitter was like a place where people would
Speaker 2: unfollow you.
Speaker 1: If they don't agree with you, Okay, And.
Speaker 2: Then I saw somebody today saying to me, oh, well,
Speaker 2: blasts you know he lost he losing uh the respect
Speaker 2: he got from the Kendrick followers or something. And I
Speaker 2: thought to myself, like, I don't think it hit people
Speaker 2: yet that I'm not fucking playing.
Speaker 1: See, I think.
Speaker 2: Everybody be on Twitter playing, or everybody on Twitter trying
Speaker 2: to convince you or something, or everybody on Twitter trying
Speaker 2: to sell you something.
Speaker 1: Where would you be losing Kendrick followers. What you do
Speaker 1: after the battle battle Drake and Kendrick battle, you would
Speaker 1: have lost Kendrick fans.
Speaker 2: Well, people felt a lot of people I think started
Speaker 2: following me. I don't know, because I don't really stare
Speaker 2: in my Twitter. I can't see what you were saying
Speaker 2: that would make them think you lost you know, Kendrick fans.
Speaker 1: So Drake fans makes sense. Well, so what they feel
Speaker 1: is so I think.
Speaker 3: I think there's a moral standing.
Speaker 2: Okay that maybe people that support dot has like a
Speaker 2: moral standing. They feel like they're a bit morally righteous
Speaker 2: compared to other people. It's kind of a running joke
Speaker 2: that you will see online about like you know, the
Speaker 2: homie fan base, but where they feel like that they're
Speaker 2: morally superior. Honestly, they're morally inferior to me. So it's like,
Speaker 2: let's say, take for R Kelly, for example, I'll be
Speaker 2: screaming about R Kelly getting fair treatment. They'll go into
Speaker 2: an emotional space of talking about who he slept with
Speaker 2: or so so forth a song I don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck what he did morally, I wanted him to be
Speaker 2: treated correctly based off the spirit of the laws that he's.
Speaker 3: Being charged with. Okay, so I'm not saying free R.
Speaker 1: Kelly. I'm saying R.
Speaker 3: Kelly doesn't deserve thirty five years in prison.
Speaker 1: They're trying to look morally superiors, like I don't care
Speaker 1: what happened to him.
Speaker 3: He married a Leah. I don't care what happened to him.
Speaker 2: I saw the TV show and I'm like, well, I
Speaker 2: don't care about him for real, but he's a brother
Speaker 2: and I truly want him to have fair treatment in America.
Speaker 2: That's the most morally upstanding thing you could do as
Speaker 2: a black man in America.
Speaker 1: So you think that's Kendrick's fans is now morally.
Speaker 2: Well, I think they're challenging me morally or different people
Speaker 2: and they don't realize what my morals stand. I think
Speaker 2: in their mind they can't because they're so busy trying
Speaker 2: to again market to Twitter or to followings, that they're
Speaker 2: not being real black people or real humans.
Speaker 5: This is exactly exactly where we left off on the
Speaker 5: previous show, like the teaser.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. No, we got off the last time.
Speaker 5: ILL said people seeing like, you know, some pedophile gets
Speaker 5: stabbed one hundred times of prisoners. They're like, yeah, you
Speaker 5: should be stabbed, you should be killed. It should be
Speaker 5: little on a fire like you know, all the stuff,
Speaker 5: and people just one up each other to try to
Speaker 5: posture moral superiority as saying, if you don't think that
Speaker 5: this person deserves all the worst as much as I do,
Speaker 5: then you must agree with them, and you're a piece
Speaker 5: of ship person. And that's where we left off, and
Speaker 5: this is where we picked up today. So if you
Speaker 5: listen to them straight through, it's like a commercial break,
Speaker 5: it's nothing ranks.
Speaker 2: So and then there's been this thing with Diddy, so
Speaker 2: will this is no Sillings podcast. Okay, not streamed the podcast,
Speaker 2: This ain't the lunch shower. My brother Pete Dog and
Speaker 2: the house Glasses Loch got my big brother Cang up
Speaker 2: in his spang. So I was talking about Diddy. So
Speaker 2: the whole thing with kid cutting, we talked about it
Speaker 2: on the stream, but just to get Pete up to date,
Speaker 2: I had a conversation where I was telling Justin Hunt
Speaker 2: and a couple other brothers, some really dope brothers in
Speaker 2: the hip hop's face. Curtis King, Wayne O, big fan
Speaker 2: of Wayno a brother that does a TV show this network.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the show with the brat he has.
Speaker 2: I think people pretty much watching that show got to
Speaker 2: figure out how to get on there.
Speaker 3: But he's a brother on that show. I can't remember
Speaker 3: his name.
Speaker 2: It was a couple of dope brothers, and I was
Speaker 2: explaining to them that a lot of things that were
Speaker 2: considering hip hop, they're not quite hip hop.
Speaker 1: Like Cuddy.
Speaker 2: Uzzy Travis, I don't think they're making hip hop. I
Speaker 2: think they're making modern rock music, right like the original
Speaker 2: people who made rock music. I'm listening to the energy
Speaker 2: and I can separate. I can hear there's something different.
Speaker 2: And it's not because their music sounds different. The energy
Speaker 2: is different.
Speaker 5: These aren't hip hop records. These are commercial rap tunes.
Speaker 5: M like my Man, my Man, switch up tips a
Speaker 5: little bit there. So I was telling them, like, so,
Speaker 5: I wouldn't expect them.
Speaker 2: To abide by the same cultural ideas because I think
Speaker 2: their music is rock music. Travis calls his music raise music.
Speaker 2: Uzzi calls himself a rock star, and I think it's obvious.
Speaker 2: But people have been arguing with me. I ask this
Speaker 2: question now, because they do that kind of music, could
Speaker 2: they have still been raised up hip hop? But you
Speaker 2: don't get raised up hip hop, right, you get raised
Speaker 2: up in street, urban ideas or culture. Okay, but that's
Speaker 2: the same ideas that birth rock music to some degree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So it's really the same.
Speaker 3: Idea that to some degree birth jazz.
Speaker 1: So street urban culture birth all these different musics.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily because I don't think the street or the
Speaker 2: urban part had necessarily been established it.
Speaker 1: I mean some places.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think blues blues is more of
Speaker 3: a rural thing.
Speaker 1: Well, blues is because they had to move from one
Speaker 1: area together in the sadness of.
Speaker 2: That, and rural though, you know, I mean it's more rural,
Speaker 2: it's not urban. It's not dinsally populated. But it was
Speaker 2: going for the country to the city, and that was
Speaker 2: the blues because they was leaving the country and being
Speaker 2: forced to the city.
Speaker 1: Sure, that's where the blues started. I mean with that too.
Speaker 2: So I'm saying I think the experience of this country
Speaker 2: generates all music. But I noticed when I would hear
Speaker 2: Travis's songs, even stuff with rappers or other hip hop acts,
Speaker 2: I would notice it was always a different energy. It
Speaker 2: was an enjoyable energy. This Nigga makes fantastic records. But
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is different. Then I saw his concerts,
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this is different. And I was able
Speaker 2: to identify, based off of my studies and my creativity
Speaker 2: in my mind to say like, oh, this is modern
Speaker 2: rock music. It's a modern take on the same energy.
Speaker 1: That created rock music. Okay, so.
Speaker 2: Obviously everybody gets mad. Oh glasses, you know, fucked all
Speaker 2: of my studies everything. I just get cut he Street.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's from Shaker Heights in Cleveland, because
Speaker 2: I think if we say street then it still goes
Speaker 2: under due, you know, rat and stuff like that. But
Speaker 2: if he's not even street, but that's different. But Rat
Speaker 2: don't got nothing to do. Rat existed before streets. Rat
Speaker 2: Yeah with cowboys. Yeah, Rat existed in Europe. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm said. So it's like, that's not the point.
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever got into calling Kid Cutty
Speaker 2: a rat or not.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: What I realized was when I put again the point
Speaker 2: was I was saying. The joke was after people fought
Speaker 2: me back. Let's see if Kid Cutt he keeps it
Speaker 2: hip hop tomorrow in court. Remember that people got mad
Speaker 2: on Twitter talk shit that ended up being it's really viralty.
Speaker 2: It's like twenty plus million impressions, right, which I'm we're
Speaker 2: trying to figure how to get three million for the video,
Speaker 2: and we got twenty million on a simple ass joke.
Speaker 3: I don't know what keeping it hip hop mean.
Speaker 2: Because that's really just I think hip hop is the
Speaker 2: street urban culture expression. The artistic expression of street urban
Speaker 2: culture's not really bound. It's the expression of street urban
Speaker 2: culture in this particular style of form. So I let
Speaker 2: people just go off, and I'm like, people kept saying
Speaker 2: he was a civilian.
Speaker 1: I noticed that, and it was a weird.
Speaker 2: Like racial undertone where it was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: he not a street nigga, Like almost as if they
Speaker 2: thought street niggas created the idea of snitching or like
Speaker 2: that's something to do with games or streets. And it
Speaker 2: hit me last night and this morning. Kid Cutty is
Speaker 2: a dope fiend, right How how I mean is that
Speaker 2: what people say is just through That's kind of his brand, Okay,
Speaker 2: the stoner that does cocaine and peels and sad and
Speaker 2: he grew up in Shaker Heights in Cleveland, Okay, which
Speaker 2: is hard to not huh, he's.
Speaker 5: Kind of in the same world in that regard as
Speaker 5: the other dude from uh Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Right, Whiz, Yeah, yeah, Whiz is a little bit closer
Speaker 2: to just standard urban culture, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Cutty Leans a little bit further away, but it's close enough.
Speaker 2: You know, both of them have an impression when it
Speaker 2: comes to Black people in America, like they're not their
Speaker 2: music whatever it is, it's not far away from black
Speaker 2: Black people still enjoy kid cutting and whiskyly sure, sure,
Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm talking about regular black people from
Speaker 2: like where I'm from, because even black people are like anybody,
Speaker 2: but they're not like I know some people in the
Speaker 2: hood that still play Kid Cutty or whiskey. They not
Speaker 2: like they're not that far apart, you know what I mean. Again,
Speaker 2: they have a way with rock music, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. Where again it's like I would have Magie
Speaker 2: Street people was playing a little Richard at one time,
Speaker 2: Chuck Berry. So I'm like, he's a drug addict, Like
Speaker 2: he's not a civilian. Like if you procure illegal drugs
Speaker 2: and you abuse those substances, you are not a civilian.
Speaker 4: No, it's juicy j right, So I'm like Joe hit
Speaker 4: me to them.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, this guy.
Speaker 2: And then people like, well, you could be a drug
Speaker 2: addict and you could buy cocaine and be you'll be
Speaker 2: a drug addict and still be a civilian.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you can't. Oh, yes you can.
Speaker 2: You know, I said, so can a dealer be a civilian?
Speaker 2: Well that's different. I'm like, well, how is it different?
Speaker 5: I want to know if any of those people have
Speaker 5: ever bought drugs from somebody outside of a house party
Speaker 5: with their friends in their life ever.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: So people just hitting me and I'm like, and it's
Speaker 2: even some people I respect, my homeboy black trade. Gee,
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you're not a civilian if you are
Speaker 2: if you abuse a legal substance because you're buying, you
Speaker 2: you're committing a crime to purchase, right and then you're
Speaker 2: committing a crime by doing it. That means you would
Speaker 2: be a part of the same cycle as the dealer.
Speaker 2: So the expectations of of of underworld behavior criminal codes
Speaker 2: still falls on you, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, breaking the law regardless.
Speaker 5: You gonna get strung out and do some more illegal
Speaker 5: ship because you're.
Speaker 1: Strung that should push you.
Speaker 2: That's like a fence and a flocker, a person who
Speaker 2: buys and and you know who launders stolen goods for
Speaker 2: money and the person who burglarizes house. A flocker and
Speaker 2: a fence, same criminal cycle. A prostitute and a john
Speaker 2: the same criminal cycle. A fiend and a dealer, same criminals.
Speaker 5: You know that this is again the USA has such
Speaker 5: a bizarre crossroads between who's the victim and who's the
Speaker 5: evil doer. The drug dealer is the evil doer. The
Speaker 5: drug consumer is the victim. But you go three blocks
Speaker 5: down to the track and the prostitute, who is the
Speaker 5: salesperson in this is the victim and the buyers now
Speaker 5: the fucking evil doer d we can't get it straight.
Speaker 4: Him then is also the evil doer.
Speaker 1: That's true, he's the dealer again.
Speaker 2: And so watching all these comments come to my Twitter,
Speaker 2: and a lot of times I use my Twitter like
Speaker 2: a media press line, like I've really been able to
Speaker 2: figure out a lot of branding, creating really deep conversations,
Speaker 2: never trolling, but really ideals. And I know they're gonna
Speaker 2: take those tweets and those will be the things. When
Speaker 2: it's when I dropped the single on June tenth that
Speaker 2: people are going to talk about.
Speaker 1: So now I have my part.
Speaker 2: I'll have my publicist, Mighty send them out to people
Speaker 2: as different talking points.
Speaker 1: If you can use these, these.
Speaker 2: Will create conversations that will galvanize your audience.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, that's how deep I am. Now I'm aware.
Speaker 2: So to make a long story short, I just looked
Speaker 2: at and I noticed this weird racial undertone where I
Speaker 2: think they think this ship is started by black people
Speaker 2: in America, that what started all of these kind of
Speaker 2: concepts of of of of morality. When it comes to crime,
Speaker 2: I think they think it's some kind of exclusive things
Speaker 2: they like glasses, Well, it's it's stockbrokers who buy cocaine.
Speaker 2: It's I'm like, it's stockbrokers say cocaine. Are they they
Speaker 2: they're not civilians. I'm like, Oh, you don't see how
Speaker 2: ridiculously racist that sounds.
Speaker 5: Like people love to do two things, like several things.
Speaker 5: But they're really good for creating these like white caricature
Speaker 5: archetype figures. They're great at that, and then they're great
Speaker 5: at claiming steak to what's the thing when you invent something,
Speaker 5: to patents of anything. But like by black people. That's
Speaker 5: negative that pre existed them. I should They'll just steak
Speaker 5: a patent license down like they thought. Omerta was like
Speaker 5: some big girl from three blocks over.
Speaker 2: And I had a question, right, So the dude was
Speaker 2: I don't thinking to myself like, y'all don't hear how
Speaker 2: ridiculously racist this sounds. And race is not in the
Speaker 2: oppression sense, but in the you see somebody else that's
Speaker 2: just inferior or someone that superior the simple definition. I'm like,
Speaker 2: so it's John Gotty, a street nigga.
Speaker 1: I mean no, I used to wear suits. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the court.
Speaker 5: That's the other funny thing we talked about last time too.
Speaker 5: When you see the Surveilus videos, they're in Adidas jumpsuits.
Speaker 4: Like run DMC. They only wear suits the fucking court.
Speaker 2: They don't get that's where run DMC got it from.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy part.
Speaker 2: I'll be like, because this has been my point, Pete,
Speaker 2: I've been saying for years now. I'm not taking nothing
Speaker 2: from black people. Don't get me wrong. Yes, black people
Speaker 2: in the Bronx were the centerpiece of hip hop, but
Speaker 2: hip hop hisself is not black. It's streaked urban, right,
Speaker 2: So that's why you can have some people from Latin
Speaker 2: American countries, some white folks at the center. That's the
Speaker 2: reason why some of these people name themselves after white
Speaker 2: people that were lures in street urban culture.
Speaker 3: Like you know you hear.
Speaker 4: So who you k who the first young JEZU was?
Speaker 4: Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at that thought. Wow, really, if.
Speaker 5: Jez had Meach, Frank had Columbum, Gambito, whoever, whichever one
Speaker 5: of those people he was fucking with.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: This is nothing new, But for some reason in America
Speaker 2: it looks Pete.
Speaker 1: I get it. Bro.
Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine being a white man in America and
Speaker 2: you having to hear niggas complain about racism.
Speaker 1: Would it be almost like fuck?
Speaker 2: So, y'all really don't have no idea white folks be
Speaker 2: on this ship.
Speaker 4: Well, who are the people making the common so they
Speaker 4: black or white people?
Speaker 1: They get black? Oh, it'd be shit. I mean, at
Speaker 1: least their profile picture be black. But I'm talking conversation.
Speaker 2: But but I'm gonna tell you why is different. And
Speaker 2: this is another thing that bothers me. Now, this is
Speaker 2: a little different than racist. It's worse than racism when
Speaker 2: black people feel like they inherently understand what's going on
Speaker 2: with street, urban culture or any level of criminality, when
Speaker 2: they don't know nothing, but because they listen to some
Speaker 2: rap songs and have Google.
Speaker 1: Like, people send me googles of a civilian. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what you mean the definition? Yes, And I'm like, you
Speaker 1: can't google.
Speaker 2: Like you can google street urban terms or terms that
Speaker 2: were birthed in in the underworld, but it might.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily be as accurate as you would imagine.
Speaker 2: So they was like a civilian, and I hear a
Speaker 2: lot of people running around this narrative. Civilians are not people.
Speaker 2: That's not gang bangers. That's not true. Anybody participating in
Speaker 2: the cycle of consistently is.
Speaker 1: Not a civilian.
Speaker 3: Now, look, it's like the car we're not talking about you.
Speaker 5: If if you're a mercenary in the military, you're not
Speaker 5: a civilian. You aren't enlisted, yes, but you're not a civilian.
Speaker 2: And if you're and if you're a fucking doctor and
Speaker 2: then armitage in the army, you're not a civilian.
Speaker 1: Military people. I thought brann't civilian.
Speaker 2: No more so, I think they're confusing gangs with under me. No, no,
Speaker 2: are you supposed.
Speaker 5: To not kill the medical people in the field. That's
Speaker 5: why they always mark themselves, and you're supposed to like.
Speaker 1: Not sure, but they're not civilians. That's just a code
Speaker 1: of behavior. Sure, they are very much a part.
Speaker 2: Of They're not finna go help if if the United
Speaker 2: States is fighting the French, they're not gonna go help
Speaker 2: the Frenchmen.
Speaker 1: All got to help their own peoples. They in the middle.
Speaker 1: Like so, but a dude, like you know, and it's
Speaker 1: so many smart asses.
Speaker 2: I hate that there's no real documents because I don't
Speaker 2: think people would argue with a doctor about.
Speaker 1: Fucking ankle surgery.
Speaker 2: But it's like somebody said, Glasses, well what about jaywalking?
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a traffic infraction.
Speaker 1: It's not a crime. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you don't know what you're saying, Cuz like,
Speaker 1: why do y'all?
Speaker 2: And I'm telling Jayu and Manny today I'm talking to them.
Speaker 2: It's like everybody I know just wants to fucking argue
Speaker 2: with me. We're seeing some ship one plus when he
Speaker 2: go to I don't know, glasses, you know you can
Speaker 2: get seven oro, Why are you wasting my time.
Speaker 1: You know me, Mike that you know a hard rule
Speaker 1: is for me. Now.
Speaker 4: As soon as I hear a sudden start with what about.
Speaker 1: I'm done? Well, what about? That's it?
Speaker 4: I am focused on something else. You're just they're talking
Speaker 4: to yourself at that point?
Speaker 1: What about?
Speaker 4: And I'm out?
Speaker 2: They almost robbed me up my joy this week. This
Speaker 2: has been a hard week for me. All this week.
Speaker 2: I realized why Puff never really fucked with me, all
Speaker 2: the way he said, I down party like him. I
Speaker 2: know what he means now. I didn't quite know what
Speaker 2: he meant. I get why a lot of people didn't.
Speaker 1: Really. They have to be motivated by your lifestyle. It
Speaker 1: ain't just about you're a good person. I'm to help you.
Speaker 2: It was like, no, we have some kind of connection,
Speaker 2: even my own friends. I confront the problem with puns
Speaker 2: like I remember y'all was on that Molley shit. Is
Speaker 2: that why y'all stop trying to help me and hang
Speaker 2: out with me?
Speaker 1: Oh? I swear to God because we're friends like that.
Speaker 2: And if I can ain't coming to you and give
Speaker 2: you my honest opinion, nigga, we not friends and I
Speaker 2: would know that right now.
Speaker 1: Nigga, that way, we ain't friends. So they said, what
Speaker 1: was the answer.
Speaker 2: No, you talk to us like we were smokers. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's not what I said. That's your fucking conscious. I'm
Speaker 2: not treating you like you not shit. I'm asking you
Speaker 2: a fucking question that meant something to me. Nigga, did
Speaker 2: y'all stop fucking with me and we stop hanging because
Speaker 2: I don't fucking do drugs. Man, I'm not even gonna
Speaker 2: answer that. Yes, you motherfuckers did. So that was something
Speaker 2: else then I was talking. It was a it was
Speaker 2: a fake ass rat battle happening. And I'm trying to
Speaker 2: keep the West together because I understand how hip hop,
Speaker 2: especially the origin New York of hip hop, uses media
Speaker 2: to build their own narratives for their own support. And
Speaker 2: now I started to galvanize people on the West and Hey,
Speaker 2: call the people, Hey make sure y'all know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Don't let these people use you. People got mad and
Speaker 2: start talking shit, and I'm like, ain't this a bitch?
Speaker 1: Then, faby mster Fab is my nigga, like my brother?
Speaker 1: That's really it's somebody I think like this nigga, my brother.
Speaker 2: Like it was a situations while I was ready to
Speaker 2: kill over faby here in La. And when the battle
Speaker 2: was happening, why Dad and them starts saying we to
Speaker 2: West Coach, were from Oakland and all the barrier niggas
Speaker 2: start doing this whole shit, and I'm like, what the fuck.
Speaker 1: Are y'all doing? Nigga that says the West nigga or
Speaker 1: the other people.
Speaker 2: We don't give a fuck with other people think nigga
Speaker 2: is us nigga forty short hammer nigga. Everybody mean the
Speaker 2: same thing. Mess all over mean the same thing to
Speaker 2: us as they mean every nobody else here. Nigga don't
Speaker 2: know West y'all letting these out of town that y'all
Speaker 2: trying to be cool.
Speaker 1: These motherfuckers don't give a fuck about none of us.
Speaker 1: So they're trying to divide California and the West Coast. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's so fabious.
Speaker 2: In Gwapdad comments when Guapda said that bullshit man I
Speaker 2: call Fabyan.
Speaker 1: Cuts his ass out.
Speaker 2: Why would you say that you're not dumb? That make
Speaker 2: me look for sticking up for you a fucking with
Speaker 2: you all these years. I'm thinking we the West Coast
Speaker 2: and all the time you just on some punk shit
Speaker 2: I'm ready to knock a nigga down for forty niggas.
Speaker 2: Short y'all trying to tell me this how y'all feel
Speaker 2: about us?
Speaker 1: And Short be down in LA all the time. Guap
Speaker 1: be down here. You guys feel that way, niggah.
Speaker 2: So if somebody unp would never say no shit, Short
Speaker 2: would never say no shit like that because he no.
Speaker 1: But it's the younger niggas who.
Speaker 2: Feel like, oh, well, everybody recognize that lay don't recognize us,
Speaker 2: so we need to separate, No, nigga, that's when we
Speaker 2: need to bond together more. Whatever we got, nigga, we
Speaker 2: just sharing. So when they say West Coast, they think
Speaker 2: everybody thinks LA. Only when they say West Coast, that's
Speaker 2: their thought. And I'm not mad at that. Hollywood is
Speaker 2: in our backyard. It's in the it's in the lost
Speaker 2: Southern California's backyard.
Speaker 1: So the only reason they know that is because we
Speaker 1: have movies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I never felt like they ever really claimed that,
Speaker 5: though I can't remember, like, you know, like even if
Speaker 5: you were to go back to like the quote unquote
Speaker 5: like East Coast, West Coast, bad Boy death throw things
Speaker 5: very LA centric. You know, they've always kind of least
Speaker 5: like when I lived up there, it seemed like they're
Speaker 5: no offense to the Bay Area people.
Speaker 4: Like I. I like the bay It's you know, it's
Speaker 4: a cool spot. I like the way they do things.
Speaker 4: But they.
Speaker 5: When I'm in LA, we're deaf, dumb, and blind to
Speaker 5: what's going on up there.
Speaker 1: Most of the time.
Speaker 5: They kind of have a little bit of a little
Speaker 5: brother chip on their shoulder, and I feel like, rather
Speaker 5: than be the little brother data, we're just gonna change
Speaker 5: our last name.
Speaker 1: I agree with that people, but they're not the little brother.
Speaker 1: The Bay Area is the big brother.
Speaker 4: It's the older brother, but it's the smaller older brother.
Speaker 1: It's Fredo that the people.
Speaker 2: Because black culture, the street urban culture that we're synonymous for,
Speaker 2: started in the baby.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's true, but they're Fredo in your mind.
Speaker 2: The first funk ships, it's sliding.
Speaker 1: Family's done, Like what the fuck are you talking? Like?
Speaker 1: You should be happy? Little brother is shining, So that's like, okay,
Speaker 1: see him. Yeah, Short Short is the father.
Speaker 3: Of how we started to find hip hop music for ourselves.
Speaker 1: And he represented West Coast. Yeah. I ain't never really
Speaker 1: seen him not represent West Coast like we all do
Speaker 1: I'm from Watch, but nigga's the West.
Speaker 2: Watch into Los Angeles, the city, not the county for
Speaker 2: niggas watched, this is our neighborhood.
Speaker 1: But that's what I said about in the West Coast.
Speaker 2: Look at all the way from Washington, all the way down,
Speaker 2: look like they live on the West Coast. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm from the West coast, West coast, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They say West. Everybody West Portland's West. You know, Vancouver,
Speaker 2: Canada is the West.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But again, but it made me think, like, man, mam,
Speaker 2: there was a moment over the last twenty four hours
Speaker 2: that I was thinking to myself, You're right, Was I
Speaker 2: finna keep ramping the West Coast? Should I keep fucking
Speaker 2: with niggas? Should I keep standing up for nigga? Should
Speaker 2: I keep trying to give them game?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 3: And I was thinking myself, like, man, I'm done.
Speaker 1: Fuck that. I'm finna cuss all these niggas ass out
Speaker 1: over and over again. Fuck that, nigga. You the West
Speaker 1: nigg that's it.
Speaker 5: You almost sound like the the Union trying to reign
Speaker 5: in the Confederacy. No, you're not going to not be
Speaker 5: part of this gut damn.
Speaker 1: I'm linking on these punk.
Speaker 2: Yeah niggas trying to spiral off.
Speaker 1: Nigga, Nigga, I was should have to sell Selski. I'm
Speaker 1: getting Celsie coming. I'm like, y'all better stop letting these.
Speaker 2: I go for Lincoln over the g homies. Oh the
Speaker 2: jobes for the babe. Nigga, y'all the West, Nigga, ain't
Speaker 2: no getting out of the car. Nigga, ain't no getting
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody letting you out. Nigga's the West. We're fucking
Speaker 2: nobody else, say, nigga, y'all music raised all of us
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 1: Nigga, Nigga, it's the West. Niggain't no getting out. Nigga.
Speaker 2: We together, even if y'all don't want to fight right now, Nigga,
Speaker 2: we together because if somebody chipping off of y'all, Nigga,
Speaker 2: we're going. But you said it's the Bay Area, saying
Speaker 2: ain't not from the West. It's not nobody else familiar
Speaker 2: saying that it's not because no, but but again, because
Speaker 2: the Bay Area is to me, the father of blackness
Speaker 2: on the West coast as far as California goes.
Speaker 1: But it has a direct, more direct connection to.
Speaker 2: The east coast in La. No to the south, southeast
Speaker 2: to me, south and east. Just like every about to
Speaker 2: say Florida in the south, but it's on the east
Speaker 2: coast to me. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, saying
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, definitely that. But it's like I've always saw that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it just hit me,
Speaker 2: like these niggas like talking to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like.
Speaker 5: Basically almost to the year I remember what five ten
Speaker 5: year difference. A bunch of people basically from Alabama seemed
Speaker 5: to go to the Bay and everybody from Louisiana seemed.
Speaker 1: To go to La. Yeah.
Speaker 5: For everybody I talk to, where's your grandma or from?
Speaker 5: That's kind of in a nutshell, seems to.
Speaker 3: Me how because my family is from Alabama.
Speaker 1: You're the odd man out. Yep.
Speaker 2: You got all my people, other people, all my other
Speaker 2: family members from Louisiana.
Speaker 1: But so my point I'm saying is is like I
Speaker 1: almost let them change me up. This is when you
Speaker 1: double down. It was God testing me. Where's my seatbelt?
Speaker 1: At Pete? That was God testing me.
Speaker 4: Man, You're from the Watts Coast.
Speaker 5: Now that's it, dirty square blocks hot on niggas.
Speaker 2: I need that vest Now, Pete, can you give me
Speaker 2: that Teflone vests hot? Triple down man, the ride about
Speaker 2: to get a ride for real?
Speaker 1: Triple down on these boys. I gotta look out the
Speaker 1: door when I walk out.
Speaker 2: Now, film me tripled down on these boys, man, because
Speaker 2: what this shit would fall apart if I'm not here.
Speaker 2: The niggas feel like he ain't got nothing to lose, Peete, No, No,
Speaker 2: The problem is I got everything to lose by by
Speaker 2: what's stepping away or by letting it happen without me,
Speaker 2: because they don't know what they're doing. They don't know
Speaker 2: the story when when the United States of America try
Speaker 2: to separate, they don't understand what it is.
Speaker 3: To preserve the nation of hip hop.
Speaker 1: They don't know.
Speaker 2: They didn't study why Lincoln was fighting the war. Most
Speaker 2: of these people thought Lincoln was fighting the world with slavery.
Speaker 1: That was a byproduct. They think I'm fighting this war
Speaker 1: over my homeboy, dot. I don't need my mother fucking
Speaker 1: help fighting no motherfucking war. Nigga, Nigga, we trained in
Speaker 1: the same fields. So it's not the representation of hip
Speaker 1: hop right now. So that's the thing.
Speaker 3: No one person can it only could be a culture thing.
Speaker 1: But people are trying to make it look like it's
Speaker 1: one thing. No, they don't know. Okay, they just don't know.
Speaker 2: Everybody thinks the West would step up, but they don't
Speaker 2: understand quite how to do it. Like even in this
Speaker 2: last battle that just happened, it's kind of royal rumble
Speaker 2: for a lack of better terms. It was like people
Speaker 2: thought that they can rap, and that's how you compete
Speaker 2: with New York. No, you don't win a battle by
Speaker 2: out rapping somebody. You win a battle by out west
Speaker 2: coasting somebody. So if you want to win a battle,
Speaker 2: you don't win a battle by being the most lyrical rapper.
Speaker 2: You win a battle by being the most cultural phenom.
Speaker 1: That's the only way to beat the West Coast.
Speaker 3: No, that's how you win a hip hop battle.
Speaker 1: Period.
Speaker 2: When you listen to a mc shan the Bridge and
Speaker 2: you listen to the Bridges over kr r rest one
Speaker 2: wasn't kicking the hypest, dopest lyrics.
Speaker 1: He could wrap his ass off.
Speaker 2: Then that nigga was just such a nasty BX nigga.
Speaker 2: That shit was fire that beat, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like that nigga wasn't emcy and it's ada man that
Speaker 2: nigga was down there using melody through the whole song.
Speaker 2: But guess what that's real BX shit when Tupac Drop
Speaker 2: hit him up. That shit ain't just about no lyrics, nigga.
Speaker 2: That's passion that nigga put. He galvanized the West and
Speaker 2: was just trunk of that w Nigga is how we
Speaker 2: do it over here. These niggas be trying to out
Speaker 2: rap niggas the wires that's gonna come out. Your moth
Speaker 2: is gonna come out. You ain't gotta worry about that.
Speaker 2: If your intellecting, you've been in the books, your pin
Speaker 2: gonna bleed, feel me, But you got to bring the culture.
Speaker 2: Like when Dot told that nigga and Euphoria, he's Terrors Thornton. No,
Speaker 2: he's Terres Crawford. No, he said he's Terce Thornton. I'm
Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford. I'm whooping feet. Niggas didn't even know what
Speaker 2: he was talking about, but it sounded so fucking crapy.
Speaker 2: I knew what he meant. Pete, know what he meant.
Speaker 2: This is how we talked. I whooped that nigga feet.
Speaker 2: That's how you do this thing. Called hip hop.
Speaker 1: You bring in the flavor.
Speaker 3: You can't make Mexican tacos like Mexican people.
Speaker 2: What these niggas tried to do in the battle. They
Speaker 2: tried to make Mexican tacos like Mexican people. You not
Speaker 2: Mexican playboy fry that shell sprown that meet up?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're kind of mad at.
Speaker 2: I'm mad because I'm trying to pass on the wisdom
Speaker 2: and the information from the Ice Cubes, the Snoop Doggs,
Speaker 2: the Doctor Dre's, the Nipsey Hustle, and all of my constituents,
Speaker 2: or not just my peers, but the niggas who I
Speaker 2: took the information from from Eric and he's e and everybody,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to disseminate it across all of us.
Speaker 5: That was one of those things like that example, like
Speaker 5: the the strategic authenticity of identity. Like ya, I'm a
Speaker 5: college football nerd. So probably fifteen years ago now when
Speaker 5: Oregon had Chip Kelly there and danthy Thomas, when Crenshaw
Speaker 5: was up there.
Speaker 4: And they were like.
Speaker 5: Hyper speed, like they're snapping the ball in two seconds.
Speaker 1: R PO. All this shit.
Speaker 4: This is just like a circus, you know, they're just
Speaker 4: they're gonna go We're gonna go score seventy.
Speaker 5: Everybody else was like like laying Kippens at USC.
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna up our tempo.
Speaker 5: We're gonna up Everyone want to up their tempo to
Speaker 5: try to do what Oregon was doing.
Speaker 3: And but that's what Oregon does.
Speaker 5: You aren't gonna just show up and decide to do
Speaker 5: that one week and beat them at their own game.
Speaker 5: The only person that beat them was Jim Harbott Stanford,
Speaker 5: who goes, oh, you're gonna do that. I'm gonna put
Speaker 5: nine offensive linemen on the field, we're gonna hold the
Speaker 5: ball for an hour.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go nowhere, and you're gonna lose.
Speaker 5: And he was the only one that could beat them
Speaker 5: because he did his shit his way, as he does it,
Speaker 5: as he's best at it.
Speaker 2: And social media has created more of a copycat like
Speaker 2: we already was on copy cat existence as humans. I
Speaker 2: watched the NBA, everybody copying like I told him, I
Speaker 2: made so much money off Coach on Coach Will because
Speaker 2: he thought the Celtius was gonna win because he's looking
Speaker 2: at the ratings. I'm like, bro, they're not the fucking warriors.
Speaker 2: Step is an all time great offensive phenom and.
Speaker 1: A great shooter. They don't have that. I don't care
Speaker 1: what their ratings is.
Speaker 2: And it's so hard because people just looking at instant
Speaker 2: success and gratification and shit and thinking.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is real and I get it. So
Speaker 1: I know my position is to preserve.
Speaker 2: Hip hop. That's what I'm on. So I'm passing information.
Speaker 2: But it's like people trying to tell me and ain't
Speaker 2: did none of the homework. Like I'm arguing with the
Speaker 2: motherfucker about what's this a bion who I'm arguing with
Speaker 2: a boy many am i Homie Jayu for about twenty
Speaker 2: minutes and I started to get mad.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm not off inna hang up.
Speaker 1: So all victims are civilians to them, First of all,
Speaker 1: gangsters can be victims. Well that's what I'm saying, but
Speaker 1: first off saying to them, it's all victims civilians to him,
Speaker 1: it's first off, look.
Speaker 4: They would perceive it as a gangster cannot be a victim.
Speaker 4: A gangster can only lose a contest, so to speak.
Speaker 2: Victims is giving absolving people of their responsibility when you
Speaker 2: say they are victim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what I.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm on the gangster. I can go outside if
Speaker 2: somebody can hit me, what they care. I didn't deserve it.
Speaker 2: I don't even know this motherfucker.
Speaker 5: But then you're the victim of a hit and run.
Speaker 5: You're not like a lifestyle victim. You're a pedastrian victim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying that's the same thing, and could cut situation.
Speaker 1: He's not a victim.
Speaker 2: You fucked this nigga old lady after he introduced you
Speaker 2: to her. Oh I thought they broke up. No, you
Speaker 2: fucking didn't. And even if you did, he introduced you
Speaker 2: to her to do some music. Raggedy piece of ship
Speaker 2: your male code, so you can't he girl, No, he
Speaker 2: fucked Cassie after did he introduced him?
Speaker 5: But isn't that what Diddy's thing is? Doesn't everybody fuck
Speaker 5: Cassie after he didn't pay?
Speaker 2: You didn't get paid for this. He wasn't there to
Speaker 2: watch it, or he didn't want you to do it.
Speaker 4: Nobody there wasn't an exhibitionist voyeurs.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know you can sexually saw the prostitute. So
Speaker 2: even somebody like Diddy that's a swinger can be cheated
Speaker 2: on swingers can cheat. Yeah, so, and and I don't
Speaker 2: give to I'm just saying, you're not a victim if
Speaker 2: he burns your fucking car.
Speaker 1: So you can't be a victim when you tho the first.
Speaker 2: Punch and the man said come home, come, that's the
Speaker 2: first buff And.
Speaker 1: I think was wrong.
Speaker 2: People think I'm defending people think i'm I don't need
Speaker 2: to defend it. He hired a bunch of rich ass lawyers.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is I want fair treatment for him,
Speaker 2: and I still expect. I don't care if it's the
Speaker 2: scum of the fucking earth. Treat brothers fair. I never
Speaker 2: had to say, treat a white man fair. They don't
Speaker 2: get fair treatment. Treat a brother fair.
Speaker 1: You know what the government showing puff how rich he not?
Speaker 1: You ain't that rich. You get out of jail, nigga
Speaker 1: fifty million and the house that's worth fifty like now
Speaker 1: you can sit there. That ain't enough money. He ain't
Speaker 1: kill nobody, can't get out, not a soul. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: that's nuts.
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers get out on murder charges, killing people all the time.
Speaker 1: You can't get out with fuck a hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: Fucking a voucher. Shit, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: So man, I just realize it, and I just realize
Speaker 2: on this podcast.
Speaker 1: I am not letting up. I'm going to triple down.
Speaker 1: You think they're going after all the rich black people
Speaker 1: now getting their money back. No, niggas keep thinking money
Speaker 1: make them white. Oh, so they go after all the
Speaker 1: ones that think money make them white.
Speaker 2: Man, Because you can't just do anything. If you start
Speaker 2: playing with some money, money gonna show you how much money.
Speaker 1: You don't got. Don't get me wrong, Puff is.
Speaker 2: Obviously it looks like he did. I mean shit, for sure,
Speaker 2: he's guilty. He's guilty of assualt or abuse for sure.
Speaker 2: He's probably guilty of buying drugs for sure. He looked
Speaker 2: like he's buying some pussy for sure. It looks like that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying Puff shouldn't be fighting charges. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, come on, man, he's not John Gott. You
Speaker 2: don't try to make can tell I get it how
Speaker 2: we can spend the letter to the law and oh god,
Speaker 2: he's not that. Just come on, man, this man should
Speaker 2: be fighting probably eight to fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Why the fuck is he fighting life? Life? This is
Speaker 1: his first offense. Life the first offense. He shouldn't be
Speaker 1: fighting all him to be charged his first offense.
Speaker 2: Even I think that's cool. Whatever whatever the government pulled out,
Speaker 2: come on life. Puff ain't a life candidate, no nothing.
Speaker 2: If that's emarentially doesn't fuck with you. I'm going to
Speaker 2: realize so many people he.
Speaker 1: Was like you defending that pedalpon like pedop. They don't
Speaker 1: have no idea of the case. They call them, they
Speaker 1: called swe They was talking about Art Kelly to you, and.
Speaker 5: They was talking about Puff because they had to deal
Speaker 5: with all us Bieber Bieber rumors.
Speaker 2: Oh justin bieber stuff, a bunch of crazy stuff should
Speaker 2: Again it's not exactly in charge with it. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's not necessarily Again, I don't know nothing about that,
Speaker 2: but it's just crazy how people feel so compelled. But
Speaker 2: it goes back to that same thing. I'm saying, we're.
Speaker 1: In the biggest copycat part of life that we've ever
Speaker 1: been in because of social media. And then there's still one.
Speaker 3: Nigga like, yeah, no, I'm not going.
Speaker 1: I'm not going. And it's funny people, I'm telling.
Speaker 2: You that when you can be a stockbroker and and
Speaker 2: and do cocaine, you're still a. So that means that
Speaker 2: person could tell the police on that.
Speaker 1: No he can't. Not on this dealer, he can't tell
Speaker 1: the police on nobody. Somebody mugged you for your cocaine.
Speaker 1: You can tell the police. Oh these crazy motherfuckers that
Speaker 1: tell the police and they get robbed for drugs. I
Speaker 1: think you see them stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're on drugs.
Speaker 6: They think they civilians. Still look, they still think they
Speaker 6: civilians could call the police. Holy soa they not? You
Speaker 6: got what taking your cocaine? Robbed you and gave you
Speaker 6: this fake dope? Oh look at this. Take this, take
Speaker 6: you in with.
Speaker 1: Description and you're going in for fake dope? What that
Speaker 1: cocaine look like? Yeah?
Speaker 2: That shit be real people crazy like that though. I
Speaker 2: understand what you're saying, but yeah, you gotta double down
Speaker 2: on what you believe in and.
Speaker 1: What you're passionate about.
Speaker 2: And if this is what you're passionate about, this shit
Speaker 2: we go all the way to the top with this.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't got it.
Speaker 1: God has done something in our lives. I've been able
Speaker 1: to preserve long enough to still have.
Speaker 2: Cultural cachet in social relevance. It is not to trade
Speaker 2: it in Now, what're you gonna trade it in for money?
Speaker 1: Whatever? People trade in for shit all the time. But
Speaker 1: we all about you.
Speaker 2: If you don't double down on hip hop, what was
Speaker 2: you go trade the other side on?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: What was you gonna do? No, no, you're gonna stop
Speaker 1: talking about hip hop? What was you gonna stop? You
Speaker 1: know what? What was you gonna do? I could party
Speaker 1: like all the rest of these niggas.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the I don't think If you nah,
Speaker 2: I agree, don't don't.
Speaker 1: Don't even try to put that in people's mind.
Speaker 2: I think that every journey is unique. Yeah, So I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to put that in people mind. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying you can there's ways to get somewhere faster.
Speaker 1: But I tell you what, like, if.
Speaker 2: I didn't take the time to learn this, I'd have
Speaker 2: been done because it's no way possible.
Speaker 3: People was going to fuck with me at that way because.
Speaker 2: Like like like like party like part. So you don't
Speaker 2: get and like you said about your friends, maybe they
Speaker 2: stop hanging out with me because they was doing mally
Speaker 2: and I wasn't.
Speaker 1: You know, I understand that cost. Remember that builds bonds.
Speaker 2: Sitting there drinking with niggas and yeah, partying and doing
Speaker 2: the shit, and that builds bonds.
Speaker 1: Our bonds are built in sober, mean.
Speaker 2: Right, we build bond sober like me and pun bond
Speaker 2: come from. I noticed he was a brother just like me,
Speaker 2: no younger, but he was caught up in the streets,
Speaker 2: and I can see what was gonna happen to him,
Speaker 2: the same thing that was happening to me, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And and I realized I can help
Speaker 2: change his life. I can put him in something that
Speaker 2: I could tell he was gonna be good.
Speaker 1: Like Head is different.
Speaker 2: Hair was like somebody I could see that was really
Speaker 2: technically savvy. He was a thinker. I mean, he always
Speaker 2: call himself a nerd. I don't think he is a nerd.
Speaker 2: I always say I think Head ain't necessarily even the
Speaker 2: smartest motherfucker. He's not the most witty comeback motherfucker. Head
Speaker 2: is really intelligent. And Head is unbelievably like technically sad.
Speaker 2: Like he's a geek, you know what I mean, He's
Speaker 2: a geek. That motherfucker could figure out some dumb ass
Speaker 2: fucking electronics so fast. But that's been my complaint. Like
Speaker 2: I just had to really deal with that.
Speaker 1: All week of people challenging your like Satan experience.
Speaker 2: Satan giving me the last bit of pushback in my life.
Speaker 1: And you felt like it was pushback, yeah, because it
Speaker 1: was coming through people that mattered to me. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that's the key thing. Okay okay.
Speaker 2: I saw Gina put some stuff online that was a
Speaker 2: back chand that I was telling Sally and my hand
Speaker 2: retweeted it, and I got offended. I'm like, why would
Speaker 2: you double down if you know I said this? To
Speaker 2: realize he didn't know that she was talking to me.
Speaker 1: And Tea thought me, like, you know, I ain't numb
Speaker 1: but love in my heart.
Speaker 2: We did something that was talking about you, retweeted those
Speaker 2: talk about you, and then like I'm listening like the
Speaker 2: puff shit all this ship for They're my partners. They
Speaker 2: making jokes because I'm confiding in them about how I
Speaker 2: felt in these vulnerable moments, and everybody pushes the internet
Speaker 2: challenging me on this particular thing, knowing this is my
Speaker 2: motherfucking specialty. Nigg We're not talking about making no piece
Speaker 2: of nigga. We ain't talking about making no forgetting nigga.
Speaker 2: This is what I do nigga. I'm a thug nigga.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking this stuff ship this whole time, created.
Speaker 2: Jack questioning my homies right now, you feel me like
Speaker 2: questioning niggas right now, getting baby games to getting the history.
Speaker 1: Right now, like come on, man. So it's like this
Speaker 1: was Satan giving me the greatest.
Speaker 2: Pushback I've had in a very long time. Been a
Speaker 2: very long time.
Speaker 1: So you think this is what's gonna build you another
Speaker 1: solid foundation from this point on. I already we've already
Speaker 1: built the foundation.
Speaker 2: Like I got Peepe right here to help them with
Speaker 2: the economic parts. I got you right here to help
Speaker 2: with the emotions and make sure I keep my mind together.
Speaker 1: I got the right people, my homie don dub different people.
Speaker 2: I got the right people. That's I'm building it, feel me.
Speaker 2: So it really came down. It was like a tough week.
Speaker 2: I could feel my spirit being torn at Peep all week.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Pete, don't know you cuss me out? Huh
Speaker 1: you didn't know?
Speaker 2: You caught me up, punk ass, Pete, because I said,
Speaker 2: were my shrimp?
Speaker 5: Is that Tacomba is not part of the West Coast?
Speaker 1: No, I told him. I just told you, I'll get
Speaker 1: you some shit. He told me. No, Hey, Pete, he
Speaker 1: had a rough week. Pete. I was testing the waters
Speaker 1: and the water was on.
Speaker 2: So I believe we've been going to some toy ship
Speaker 2: this week because he's been on edge, you know.
Speaker 1: But you feel better now. You've got to figure it
Speaker 1: out a little bit that this is where you know.
Speaker 2: I don't feel better, I know better. Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: think I am, I know I am.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So you got some clarity, not even clarity,
Speaker 1: but what's the word. What's the word I'll be looking for?
Speaker 1: Come on, Pete, this is where you jump in.
Speaker 5: I was preoccupied with the idea that this is perhaps
Speaker 5: ten years of Twitter trollery all coming right back at you.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. That's not what other people think.
Speaker 2: They really think I'd be joking, They really kid cutting
Speaker 2: is not as at people think you're a big troll.
Speaker 2: That's because they're not thinking or even giving context to
Speaker 2: something that's a run on idea that I'm saying. Or
Speaker 2: maybe because you always have a comment to what people say,
Speaker 2: like you never not have words for something. I don't know.
Speaker 2: They think they may think that because you you will
Speaker 2: respond to everybody only if you're talking about what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about it. If you talk to me about Trump, I
Speaker 2: don't got nothing to say. Really, straight up.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fucking saying. They start talking
Speaker 1: about tears and ship, I'm like, I don't know that's
Speaker 1: you come in, Pete. I was come about to ask
Speaker 1: you a question earlier. Too. Reminded me of my one
Speaker 1: of my favorite movies, Negotiating, Yeah, where you come in, Pete?
Speaker 1: Where you come in? That Roman?
Speaker 5: That's uh, that was what the Samuel when he's locked
Speaker 5: himself in the Yeah.
Speaker 1: But no, I see what you're saying, though. I understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Because it is getting a real heated moment in the
Speaker 2: soul called street urban culture versus hip hop.
Speaker 1: And that's what it seems like now, not versus, but
Speaker 1: it seems like it is. It seems like it is
Speaker 1: now versus mainstream America.
Speaker 2: You know, mainstream now think they're either street or hip hop.
Speaker 2: Mainstream believes that, And that's what I'm saying. It's the
Speaker 2: main stream to tell them then, tell them they're not
Speaker 2: hip hop, they're not street, they're mainstream. You're not street,
Speaker 2: your mainstream. I keep telling them that. But maybe we
Speaker 2: should stop using the worst civilian because that's confusing people.
Speaker 2: The worst civilians being misused in all aspects.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the issue.
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean Yes, there's not a word that you
Speaker 5: could find that they wouldn't misuse.
Speaker 4: In this context.
Speaker 1: Say that again, Pete.
Speaker 5: There's not a word you could find that they wouldn't
Speaker 5: misused in this context because it's rooted in an identity crisis.
Speaker 1: Yes, so go back to mainstream.
Speaker 4: Like you said, they don't want but they don't want
Speaker 4: to be mainstream. They want to be part of They
Speaker 4: want to be part of the group.
Speaker 1: Like you said, force her back to mainstream. You can't.
Speaker 1: That's why you have to constantly you're doubling down. You're
Speaker 1: trickling down. You can't. That's not before stand back nowhere.
Speaker 3: It's just going to take us back to the original
Speaker 3: days of hip.
Speaker 1: Hop and they'll be come back to mainstream.
Speaker 2: They may not say it, but they're gonna be mainstream.
Speaker 1: They won't say hip hop and street, They for sure
Speaker 1: gonna say that. I don't want to do that. Now.
Speaker 1: When you get done. Now, when you get.
Speaker 6: Done doubling down, applications and ship have to turn in background.
Speaker 4: Those are type people.
Speaker 5: They won't go mainstream until the cops show up, you know,
Speaker 5: then they're gonna tell on your ends.
Speaker 2: Now it's nazi why Trump is doing what's that thank
Speaker 2: you ding about undocumented birth.
Speaker 1: Rights and ship Now that's starting to make sense.
Speaker 4: Man, that's about fucking eighty years too late. They made.
Speaker 1: Commercial.
Speaker 2: There was a maybe and she was like, Trump is
Speaker 2: making sure our borders the same. So if you're here illegally,
Speaker 2: you should leave now, maybe will let you back. But
Speaker 2: if you don't, we're gonna catch you. We're gonna we're
Speaker 2: gonna find you, wanna catch you, get rid of you,
Speaker 2: and you'll never be able to come back.
Speaker 1: And that's a commercial they're doing the OKI though, Hu,
Speaker 1: the little white lady talking the little school teachers, the
Speaker 1: little school teacher talking to you. She said, now if
Speaker 1: you may, you may be able to come back. That's funny.
Speaker 1: I wonder how many families saw that commercial. A lot,
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 4: If they mother, there was several thousand, like they they
Speaker 4: docked like.
Speaker 1: Some number.
Speaker 4: It was in the thousands. That wasn't in the like millions.
Speaker 1: People that left them on their own.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people who like self deported so they could refile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. People did. They left, People
Speaker 1: actually left.
Speaker 2: But if you mean they did that and they be
Speaker 2: able to come back and they came back, you don't.
Speaker 1: We won't find you. We will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like this Trump funny bro like, I
Speaker 2: don't know enough about politics.
Speaker 1: That's why I argue about pot I only know about
Speaker 1: humans and funny shit.
Speaker 2: Because politicians about emotion. It shouldn't be but Lee, it's
Speaker 2: about making somebody feel good, and somebody's gonna feel bad
Speaker 2: at that expense. Yeah, that's politics, and I don't play
Speaker 2: politics good. I'm not great at making people feel good
Speaker 2: and other people like man, I'm just gonna put on
Speaker 2: for this particular culture that I am the best, that
Speaker 2: IM gonna be the voice of this culture. Then I'm
Speaker 2: gonna keep it moving.
Speaker 1: He doesn't make the culture happy with you.
Speaker 2: Sometimes cultures jay Z always gonna be happy with me
Speaker 2: ninety of the time, ninety nine percent of the time,
Speaker 2: because no man should be happy with one hundred percent
Speaker 2: of the time.
Speaker 3: Nless you sucking dick.
Speaker 1: Well that took the conversations.
Speaker 2: No, I keep thinking it's true because if you feel yourself,
Speaker 2: you think to yourself. Man, Glass don't never made me
Speaker 2: look like a sucker. That's the best I can give you.
Speaker 2: The best I can give.
Speaker 1: You call me a punk ast So that ship already
Speaker 1: did that. That's not to say you're a pump. That
Speaker 1: was an action. That was an adjective to describe action.
Speaker 1: I just I just lacked self work right now, I
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck talking about Yeah, I just I
Speaker 1: lacked self work because I just don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: It was a It was a I told King man,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you something. I wanted him to try.
Speaker 2: So that's a big part of the story because I
Speaker 2: was kind of looking to go get him. He's like, man, man,
Speaker 2: you had something of you that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Man, I'm gonna get you something now. Man,
Speaker 1: if you got something, pee it was my fault.
Speaker 2: P I started the whole bullshit because I eve dropped
Speaker 2: on a fucking conversation that.
Speaker 1: There was a conversation was hading. I eve dropped, like,
Speaker 1: damn nigga, I can't get nothing nigg eat.
Speaker 2: And that's how it started because I eave dropped. So
Speaker 2: I took the punk ass ass. That's what I get
Speaker 2: for eavesdropping.
Speaker 1: This is why you can't talk what. I can't be
Speaker 1: the victim.
Speaker 2: Because I'm throwing out my heart and telling the truth
Speaker 2: and taking accountability and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's how I become the victim. Taking accountability. Oh don't work.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, victim is not taking accountability.
Speaker 1: Well, Peter, I'll go back to being a punk ass.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.