WEBVTT - Brian Austin Green's second Act

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<v Speaker 1>I love the concept of this is the second act

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. Yeah, because if I look at the

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<v Speaker 1>first act, I had a long fucking life.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a lot of it. She did a lot, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>from like.

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<v Speaker 1>All through school, yeah, all through my twenties, like finding myself,

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<v Speaker 1>making mistakes, doing shit. So now I get to start

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<v Speaker 1>this second act from who I am now forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Off the Cop, my personal anti anxiety antidote.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode is special because I'm coming to on Location.

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<v Speaker 3>Nineties con is happening in Hartford, Connecticut this weekend, and

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<v Speaker 3>I traveled here.

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<v Speaker 4>With one purpose in mind to interview this guest.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I grew up with this person, not literally, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>but in the way we all grew up with this

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<v Speaker 3>person if you were between the ages of eleven and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five in the nineties. And I remember watching the

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<v Speaker 3>first episode of nine h two and zero vividly. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like I had just discovered a drug.

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<v Speaker 4>I was young. I was probably too young.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was like eleven, bad parenting.

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<v Speaker 3>Woh yes, no, But I hit it from my parents. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I hit it because this show was not appropriate for

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<v Speaker 3>an eleven year old. But I was so hooked along

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<v Speaker 3>with the rest of the nation, and that show gave.

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<v Speaker 4>Us so much. For ten seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>It covered sex, date, rape, racism, drugs, eating disorders, you

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<v Speaker 3>name the teen affliction, and this show did it and

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<v Speaker 3>then some. I think for a lot of us there

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<v Speaker 3>was something we could attach to somewhere in this show,

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<v Speaker 3>something that reflected our life, even though we were never

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<v Speaker 3>as cool as these kids were. Well, now one of

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<v Speaker 3>the cool kids is here on my podcast, which is

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<v Speaker 3>so wild.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian Austin Green, Welcome to Off the Cup.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you I said this before, when you reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to me, Yeah, I was flabbergasted.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yet, absolutely because you had so you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have so much respect for you and what you do,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so brave what you do. Like you you

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<v Speaker 1>put your opinion out there knowing that there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a massive swath of this country that hate you

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<v Speaker 1>for it, absolutely, and you do it anyway, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. I do not do that. I sit at

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<v Speaker 1>these conventions autographs and you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I try just a wash in nineties nostalgia.

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<v Speaker 2>At this one. Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is it's they play all nineties music. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all people from like say by the Bell, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>all the shows and the things that were going on

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<v Speaker 1>at that time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like doing these I love honest, So I so,

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<v Speaker 1>I love so. I love doing these nineties cons They're

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<v Speaker 1>really fun because it is it's my decade.

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<v Speaker 2>They're my people.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these other conventions you do that are very

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<v Speaker 1>h They cover all genres.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've got horror people.

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<v Speaker 1>There, they have fans of anime there, they have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Serkis will be there and the kids from like

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<v Speaker 1>Lord of the Rings. So then you kind of I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get lost back in the corner, except for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the parents that can show up after work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And so I spend most of the day

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of watching people go by and like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to offer them goodies and shit from my table, hoping

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<v Speaker 1>they'll come right right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean it sounds really fun.

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<v Speaker 3>What does it feel like to have people care so

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<v Speaker 3>much about a character that you like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's insane. They care a lot, it's insane. Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it because I felt the same way about

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<v Speaker 1>shows that meant the world. Like I so for me

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<v Speaker 1>meeting my heroes, Like my heroes are who are they? Skaters?

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in nor Hollywood. Yeah, yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up skating. So like the first time I met

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Hawk, I was like, I don't care about anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the craziest moment in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>So you get that that fantasm.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so I understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I always try and keep that in mind when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm meeting people, so I'm like authentically in it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand necessarily their fan Like I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the same connection to Nino two one zero that other

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<v Speaker 1>people do, but I have a connection to life and

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<v Speaker 1>things from when I was a kid, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>so much in common that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I try and approach it that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have any personal space rules when you're at

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<v Speaker 3>these like or are you just like hugs, kisses, signs whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>I so not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm no signing bras, but I otherwise I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>space rules, Okay, Like I really, I really try, and

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<v Speaker 1>because the lines get long and people are waiting hours

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<v Speaker 1>for these things, and I can't give them a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of time because I need to try and get through

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<v Speaker 1>the line of people that are there, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make it something special for people that are there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hug him, you know, like really make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that I lock eyes with him when we're talking, and oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your name.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Brian, Nice to meet you. What are

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<v Speaker 2>we doing? You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I really try and make it as in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Short period of time, the best experience it can be.

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<v Speaker 4>That's great. Yeah, have your kids seen ny.

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<v Speaker 1>So they haven't seen nine O two one, Oh, but

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<v Speaker 1>they've seen like pictures and things I have. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a couple fans of the show that are like mega fans.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure more than a couple, but okay, but I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there they are a couple that are like they

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<v Speaker 1>run all of it. There's this one guy, Darren Martin,

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<v Speaker 1>who lives he's up north in Canada, and he's known

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<v Speaker 1>as the nine O two one bro Keeper of the

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<v Speaker 1>Code because he's literally got like he remembers everything that

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<v Speaker 1>was ever done on the show. He started watching the

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<v Speaker 1>show he was going through dialysis, so he had four

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<v Speaker 1>hours to kill every time he was doing it. So

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<v Speaker 1>he started watching the show and it became something that

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<v Speaker 1>just he's so incredibly passionate about. So we have these

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<v Speaker 1>people that really kind of they keep us in tune

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<v Speaker 1>of what is really happening out there and what people

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<v Speaker 1>like and love about it and what they're responding to.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's put together these binders of press clippings of

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<v Speaker 1>like magazine things and stuff that we did all through

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<v Speaker 1>the show and even before. And he was kind enough

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<v Speaker 1>to send me one of these binders because he made

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<v Speaker 1>a copy of it for himself. So he was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>your kids are going to love this, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of work that you're doing, but thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And sure enough, my kids love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>They spent all this time going through and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, look at you when you were ten

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<v Speaker 1>and twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>And doing this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like me break dancing and you know, doing all

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<v Speaker 1>the stupid teen magazine shit that was happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're going to get into it. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more that I want to get to. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you talk about that a lot, and yeah, you're more

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<v Speaker 3>than that.

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<v Speaker 2>I am more than that.

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<v Speaker 4>You're more than that. Well, you're a full person. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what we try to do on Off the Cock.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so can I asker you because I so, I

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<v Speaker 1>do podcasts and I have a show also which I

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<v Speaker 1>invited you on.

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<v Speaker 2>So I yes, so I am.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny now when I sit with people, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask like questions also and I want to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I so you started. You watched the show when

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<v Speaker 1>it was on before in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How how big of a show was it for you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And then how did you get into journalism? Like how

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<v Speaker 1>did that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, it was a it was a big show

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<v Speaker 3>for me. Okay, it was a very big show. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I kind of dropped off when y'all went to college. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but for the years that you were in high school,

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<v Speaker 3>it was I was you were like five years ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of me, so you know, to me, I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>at my future, which was way better than what my

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<v Speaker 3>future turned out to be in high school. Okay, in

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<v Speaker 3>an all girls Cathol high school, it was nothing like Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>no to but no, I mean I was super into

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<v Speaker 3>that show. It was a groundbreaking show to have this

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<v Speaker 3>like soapy teen drama. And then I think I got

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<v Speaker 3>real into my so called life, which was just one

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<v Speaker 3>season like tragically, and then you know, i'd get I

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<v Speaker 3>got into like friends and some of the older folks,

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<v Speaker 3>but no, no, no, it was a big, big deal, big

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<v Speaker 3>deal this show. And I got into journalism because I've

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<v Speaker 3>always been a writer. I like asking questions, That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I like to do. So I worked at the college newspaper.

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<v Speaker 2>And then how did that lead to political journalism?

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<v Speaker 1>Though? For you, because that is that was not such

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<v Speaker 1>a leap, that was a huge sleep. That's a choice

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<v Speaker 1>to make in life, like I am going to fight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, it's it's not what I what I

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<v Speaker 4>thought I was going to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I was writing about like culture, and then nine to

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<v Speaker 3>eleven happened, and I lived in New York City, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I became then and patriotic, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>tried to enlist, and my parents were like to their

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<v Speaker 3>only child, they were like, no, please find some other

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<v Speaker 3>more productive way to channel your patriotism. So I ended

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<v Speaker 3>up writing about politics. Okay, that really snowballed and took

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<v Speaker 3>over the main you know, my career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's so crazy, and it was it used.

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<v Speaker 4>To be fun covering politics when it was normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but it's got to be fun covering on the

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<v Speaker 1>level the fucking craziness of what is going on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always fun covering something novel and different. And as

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<v Speaker 3>journalists we have a front row to history. That's an

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<v Speaker 3>honor and a responsibility.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's exhausting. It's exhausting covering politics for sure, Day Today.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, back to you, to you you are, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>You're heading into season three of Oldish.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's another podcast you host with Sharna Burgess and

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<v Speaker 3>Randy Spelling.

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<v Speaker 2>Any Spelling Toy's younger brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, getting older is a journey, isn't it. Why do

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<v Speaker 3>you want to do a podcast to talk about life

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<v Speaker 3>at in your stage of life?

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<v Speaker 1>Because well, what else am I going to talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to talk about like the younger stuff

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<v Speaker 1>because that's not I don't really I have five kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't relate to that anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And it honestly started because Randy's been a professional life coach, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for seventeen plus years. Like he lives in Portland, he's married,

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<v Speaker 1>has two kids. He lives very like off the grid

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<v Speaker 1>that way, like they're not they're not really watching TV,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not using devices.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw him posting all the time on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>And I used to do love lines in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio on camera, and I used to have

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun doing that. And I love the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you had Adam Carolla who was out of his

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<v Speaker 1>fucking mind, and then you had doctor True who had

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<v Speaker 1>real information. Yes, And I was like, God, that's such

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<v Speaker 1>a great blend. And I wish because the country is

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<v Speaker 1>so right or left, but it's just it couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>more separated than it is right now. I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be so great to have something that doesn't cross

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<v Speaker 1>into that at all, that just like isn't formative. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that that's fun for people to listen to. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the nostalgia from us being up, from myself being on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and now you know I have I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>it with Sharna, who's the love of my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So it it started as this, like, oh, it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a really fun thing, and then the more we did it,

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<v Speaker 1>we changed the catchphrase of our show this year from

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<v Speaker 1>age old problems meet New age solutions, and now we

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<v Speaker 1>changed it to the more you know, the less you care.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like and it was like, yeah it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. Yeah, great, that's great, And so we just we.

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<v Speaker 1>Really have like we bring in guests and we really

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<v Speaker 1>go hard in the paint people, like we really let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into some talk like okay, we'll kind of cover

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<v Speaker 1>the simple stuff that people want to hear, but then

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<v Speaker 1>let's really and we make them discussions like they're not

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<v Speaker 1>sit down interviews where we have just a bunch of quests,

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<v Speaker 1>like we have questions that kind of give us a direction,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it's like, oh no, all four of us

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<v Speaker 1>or three of us, or whoever is in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>we have this discussion where it's like we hear stories

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<v Speaker 1>and we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that reminds me of the time when.

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<v Speaker 4>I was doing and it can just go wherever it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of goes wherever it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it becomes something where people that are listening

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<v Speaker 1>or watching, they feel like they're a part of a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a fly on a wall in something compared to

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<v Speaker 1>just to sit down. Because people do sit down interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>All the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes they do, Yes, they do all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And you answer this, you end up answering the same

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<v Speaker 1>question all the time, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's so nice to get into conversations where it's

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<v Speaker 2>like totally. It's oh, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Share our passion for things, right, share these these situations

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<v Speaker 1>that are really so similar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we've lived You and I have lived completely different lives,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're so similar because we are now in a

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<v Speaker 1>public space and we're navigating that and it's a changing

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<v Speaker 1>world constantly, constantly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it's nice to have.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice to have that experience where you can talk

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<v Speaker 3>as people. Right, you're not a actor, I'm not a journalist, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just be people. And I try to do that

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<v Speaker 3>here too, on Off the Cup, because the whole guiding

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<v Speaker 3>principle of Off the Cup is to create a space

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<v Speaker 3>where mental health can naturally come up.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not the focus.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't sit down and say, so, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 3>your mental health, right, Sure, it's having a normal comversation

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<v Speaker 3>the way you would with someone, and you'll cover maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a challenge or a dark time or a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>rough patch, and maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>You talk how you got out of that, and talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that and normalizing a conversation about mental health, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it so does, and it takes the stigma away from it,

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<v Speaker 3>it ends the silence. So I feel a greater purpose

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<v Speaker 3>for sure in this podcast too, and that was important

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<v Speaker 3>to me. I didn't want to sit down and just

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<v Speaker 3>do a political interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you do that all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So I love what you're doing at Oldish.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great, and I think there's such an interest in

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this stage of life that we're in, like

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's parenthood or fucking perimenopause, don't even get me started,

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, the stage in our career that we

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<v Speaker 3>are that we are in, right, we're not in our

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<v Speaker 3>twenties hungry, but we're not retiring.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think there's some responsibilities I have, like kids,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have a whole my life is completely different

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<v Speaker 1>than it was to and I'm a whole different person,

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<v Speaker 1>different person. Yes, I'm looking at my future in a

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<v Speaker 1>new way. I'm looking at the life that I live

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<v Speaker 1>in a new way.

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<v Speaker 4>I've learned so much. Yeah, it's it's a very.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really interesting. It's it's a really cool age.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love that we're sort of talking about the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that is happening to us at this age and

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<v Speaker 3>there's an audience for that because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>are trying to navigate all the same shit we are,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's I think it's amazing too when people can

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<v Speaker 1>do it in an authentic way. Yes, well you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be authentic, like it in a very like we

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<v Speaker 1>get very fucking raw and real on that show. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that and and not just with the guests, like

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<v Speaker 1>for me to go, I so relate to that and

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<v Speaker 1>here's why, and to dig into it on my own

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<v Speaker 1>ship because I I really learned four or five years

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<v Speaker 1>ago that for me to be relatable and for people

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<v Speaker 1>to relate to me, I have to show the human side.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to get everything you have to get to give. Yeah, totally,

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<v Speaker 2>like you cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot have a guard up and be like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to give this, but I'm not gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to don't fucking do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Don'n't do it. Just don't do it. There's no point.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no point at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Sit in your living room, watch episodes of Seinfeld when

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<v Speaker 1>they come on. You know what I'm saying, I do

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then and then like spend the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>spend the mornings with your kids before they go to school.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, you're totally right.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no point if you're not going to be real

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<v Speaker 3>and raw and honest.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I want to know what you were like as

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<v Speaker 4>a kid. What kind of kid were you?

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<v Speaker 1>I was extremely hyper, okay, I was extremely small.

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<v Speaker 4>Small in stature.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like I was like five four for years

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<v Speaker 2>when we did the first season of the show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so tiny.

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<v Speaker 4>When did you shoot up?

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<v Speaker 2>I was between seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Shoot up in size, not drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you so?

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<v Speaker 1>I it was between like seventeen and eighteen, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a really late bloomer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And we did the first season of the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>Iron Zering, one of the guys who's on the show

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<v Speaker 1>with me, used to pick me up by my neck

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like this little and I'd hold his

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<v Speaker 1>arms picked me up and it was like this joke thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And season two we came back to work and I

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<v Speaker 1>was six.

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<v Speaker 4>Feet Oh my god, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And you were you were younger than most of yours.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the youngest on the cast.

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<v Speaker 4>You were the youngest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yep. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Were your friends your castmates? Were they protective? Were they

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<v Speaker 3>bad influences?

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<v Speaker 2>They were?

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<v Speaker 1>They were both tell me so they were. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>They were. We had a really.

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<v Speaker 1>Unique, amazing cast there because we were all going through

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<v Speaker 1>something that nobody but us understood. There was like new

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<v Speaker 1>kids on the block were massive. Our show was massive,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like we took over for them, which

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<v Speaker 1>was so surreal. It was the whole for me, being

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<v Speaker 1>my age, the whole thing all tenure was was so surreal,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I wish now I could travel the places that

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<v Speaker 1>I did then because I would appreciate those things now right.

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<v Speaker 2>Compared to then.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Oh, everybody at seventeen is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing all this shit go to Japan to side right,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't this what everyone does in life?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, I I love my twenties.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you get to go to high school? I.

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<v Speaker 2>For the most part, I went to high school.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it like you had a normal high school experienced?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we it wasn't until my senior year that

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<v Speaker 1>we started doing that on two and no.

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<v Speaker 4>So acting the most in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I was mostly in high school. I did a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of set school when I was working on things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know it wasn't None of it was as

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<v Speaker 1>steady as nine or two one oh.

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<v Speaker 2>None of it was a ten year run.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd do I would do days here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd get my work from school, and I'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to do three hours a day set school, which does

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<v Speaker 1>not breed intelligence. No, not for the most part. There

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<v Speaker 1>are certain people like Danica mckellary who came out.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's a math coetian.

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<v Speaker 1>My mind is a fucking you know, neuro and scientist

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<v Speaker 1>and shit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's me people. Then there was me that

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<v Speaker 2>was like, wait, places on the map.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know continents, but I don't know what's the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between the continent and the country.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand. So so yeah, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't breed smart Okay, but uh yeah, I started

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<v Speaker 1>acting when I was nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, then was it was it? Your parents no

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do it?

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<v Speaker 1>So my dad is a drummer, my mom is a housewife.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to school all performing arts schools for

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<v Speaker 1>music when I was a kid because I played the drums,

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<v Speaker 1>which there's yeah, I'm said right there right off the

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<v Speaker 1>off set. And I was going to a school on

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<v Speaker 1>the USC campus. It was an elementary school, and student

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.760
<v Speaker 1>directors from USC would come and pick kids for their

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<v Speaker 1>like graduate.

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<v Speaker 2>Films for the project.

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<v Speaker 1>So I ended up doing like three of those, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was super fun because it's you spend a weekend

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, and it was like, God, I normally all

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<v Speaker 1>I do every day is the sun comes up, I

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<v Speaker 1>leave the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I skate until the sun's coming down, and my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Whistles and then it's like, oh shit, I better get

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<v Speaker 1>it now, or he's you know, or it's I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about it. So all of a sudden, it

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<v Speaker 1>was something new to do on weekends and I really

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.399
<v Speaker 1>had fun doing it. And a kid that I rode

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<v Speaker 1>the bus to school with was an actor. He had

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<v Speaker 1>an agent, he was doing commercials. He was making money.

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<v Speaker 1>He had like all the crazy like pong games and

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<v Speaker 1>all the like really bad graphic gay you know, handheld

0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:11.200
<v Speaker 1>games like great, you know, your car racing but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like blocks coming down and so you're just moving the

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<v Speaker 1>car from left to right and there were like three slots.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it wasn't it was pretty rudimentary, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was at the time it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had all this stuff and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you rich, Like how ya? How do you have

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>And he told me he was like, oh, I do

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<v Speaker 1>commercials and my parents gave me a percentage of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like I want to do that. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll absolutely take that time.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I told my parents and they were like, if

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<v Speaker 1>in six months, you still want to do it, because

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<v Speaker 1>they knew they were smart enough to realize how much

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.880
<v Speaker 1>it was going to take for them. Yeah, too, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to drive me to auditions. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to do headshots, they're gonna have to you know, acting classes,

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff, and it was going to take up

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<v Speaker 1>It was a it's a full time job, preparent and

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<v Speaker 1>six months later, I still wanted to do it, not

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 1>realizing how much was going to go into it, And

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<v Speaker 1>I went and met with my friend's agent and they

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<v Speaker 1>signed me for commercials and theatrical work.

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<v Speaker 2>I booked nothing for the first year.

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<v Speaker 4>For the first year nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand the concept of, oh, these people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to pay me, so I have to do what

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<v Speaker 1>it is they want me to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just young. Yeah, I was like, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is amazing, Like sign in and go in the room

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<v Speaker 1>and like, hey, everybody, how you guys doing. And they'd asked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ask for certain things, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do them. But it's all about this, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>all about like just me being this like funny kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I booked my first commercial and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bank commercial and it never aired, but

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<v Speaker 1>something clicked for me when I booked it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I went and I shot it of like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here to do a job.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I'm a kid, but they're paying me to

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<v Speaker 1>do something specific.

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<v Speaker 4>It's adults.

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<v Speaker 2>Adults are paying you, right, adults, they do not give

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<v Speaker 2>a shit. Yeah, like I would rather be skating right right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then from that point on, I booked literally everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I went in.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did probably seventy five commercials as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I started doing a show called Knots Landing when I

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<v Speaker 1>was about ten and a half, right, and then music

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of had to I had to start compartmentalizing everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like, okay, music, even though I've been

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<v Speaker 1>studying it my whole life, this is taking up all

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<v Speaker 1>of my time.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have any regrets?

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<v Speaker 2>No about that. I have no regrets. Yeah, I don't. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was younger, I did, of course, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh but my you know, I'm missing such

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a big part of my passion and all that. Now

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<v Speaker 1>looking back on it, I'm a big I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>believer in the fact that I have learned way more

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<v Speaker 1>from my failures than I have for my successes. My successes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what's the old saying, if it ain't broke, don't

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<v Speaker 1>fix it.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it works, you just fucking keep doing it,

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>keep going right, just keep going. It's the things that

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't work, yes, where I've had to sit down and go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't that work?

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<v Speaker 2>What do I have to do differently next time?

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<v Speaker 4>Self examination?

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Self examination?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's a bitch, It can be a real bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>But the end it's I always say, the road less

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>traveled is called that for a reason. It's less traveled

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a it's hard fucking road to go on.

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<v Speaker 1>But the end of that road is so much more

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<v Speaker 1>rewarding totally than the average road, and we'll just skate along.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so true, and sometimes so like I had a

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<v Speaker 3>mental breakdown, total nervous breakdown at forty at forty and

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<v Speaker 3>I it coincided with a lot of things, but and

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 3>I suffered from anxiety, but.

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<v Speaker 4>My twenties and thirties.

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<v Speaker 3>My career was on an upward trajectory the entire time.

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<v Speaker 3>Right there were and I hustled, I was there were

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<v Speaker 3>no lows. I worked my ass off and I kept

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<v Speaker 3>moving up, up, up up.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I plateau and not in the way that like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not in the way.

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<v Speaker 3>That like, well, I've made it to the top of

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<v Speaker 3>the mountain, I'm just gonna sit here.

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<v Speaker 1>No, like like no, there's more yeah, yeah, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not getting there correct. It's like it's like having a

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<v Speaker 1>gym membership and you're like, no matter what I fucking knew,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't lose.

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<v Speaker 3>No changes pounds exactly what it is. And it really,

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 3>it really messed with my head because I had no

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 3>tools to adapt or because I had been up, up, up,

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<v Speaker 3>up right and not self examining and not checking with

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<v Speaker 3>my mental health and just living anxiously not knowing.

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 2>You were succeeding. Why would sing? Why would you check?

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>You had nothing to check in with exactly right, like

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<v Speaker 1>and broke fucking why fix it?

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<v Speaker 2>Missed?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And in the beginning when I started like therapy,

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 3>and I really was angry that this happened to me.

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 4>And then I'm having to do this.

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm having to self examine and I'm having to and

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>now that I'm like.

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Five years in, I have such a different attitude about it.

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 3>I was not a whole person before I started looking

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 3>at myself and asking myself, Am I.

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 4>Doing these things for the right reasons?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Am I enjoying these things?

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<v Speaker 3>What about the rest of me outside of work? Does

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 3>is the is there a person there? And like, finding

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 3>an identity outside of my work was hard.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Cats and catalysts come in crazy packages and it's like

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and they hit you fucking hard something.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had a neurological breakdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, tell me about because I've read about, But tell

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 4>me about what did you know this first?

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<v Speaker 1>So, so, the first thing that I was noticing in

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 1>my thirties was ulsterrative colitis. Came out of nowhere, like

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>thirty five years old, really bad. And I went to

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>a doctor, a GI doctor who was amazing. He's like

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>top of his field. He's at Cedars in Los Angeles,

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>and he did the camera with all the stuff and

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>he was like, Oh, you've got the sores of someone

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>that's had colitis for like seven years. Oh my god.

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, I've had it for like seven days,

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't make any sense.

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Do you know why he couldn't figure it out. It's like,

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make any sense.

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 1>So we started looking at my diet and things, and

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I'll stop with the dairy, like

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 1>I'll do the you know, I'll stop the things that

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I think might have triggered it. But I would have it.

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Most people that have colitis they get it like monthly,

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Like these flare ups are constant. I was getting them

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>like once a year.

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>It's very odd.

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 4>It was very strange.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 1>So then all of a sudd I was doing anger

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>management with Charlie Sheen, who is the nicest guy.

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 2>In the world by the way, let me just throw

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 2>that throw that in.

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>And I woke up one morning I was supposed to

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>be at work and I had really bad vertigo. So

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>for the first time, my first time ever in my life.

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>So I text the producer and I said, hey, I'm like,

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling terrible, Like, I'll text you later on the

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>day if it feels better, and we'll figure it out

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 1>later on the day. I was like, nope, it's like

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, so let me just text you tomorrow,

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, no problem, we'll get the day done.

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>It'll be fine, Thank God. Like the schedule and the

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>way that show worked, it was fantastic.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>They were great.

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Next morning, Nope, still had it and twenty four hours

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a day like it wasn't it was.

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>The only time I didn't was when my head was

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>on the pillow and I was laying God, as soon

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>as I sat up, it would spin like ferociously. I'd

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>get incredibly nauseous. Sure, I threw up probably fifteen times

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>a day. I mean that's that's.

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my God for you.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 4>No, but like so.

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>It was horrible. And for three months I had him,

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 2>No three months.

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 4>In that time, that three month time where you felt horrible. Yeah,

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 4>did you get depressed for sure?

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Terrified? Yeah, Because there was no diagnosis.

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>It was like I don't know, yeah, you know, I

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't know, like, oh my god, did I eat something weird?

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Like what why is this happening?

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And I was seeing a guy at Kech Institute at

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that point that was like a specialist in vertigo and

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>all of that treatment, and he was like he did

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>all the positions, all the stuff, nothing helped, And he

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know what is going on with you.

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden one day that stopped out of nowhere.

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>So I go back to and your management. They had

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of they the way the show, oh shot was.

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>They shot it like it was a live audience show,

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't. It was all just sort of can

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>laughter and whatever. And we would do two episodes a week.

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>We would do one Monday Tuesday, first half a Wednesday,

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>then the second half a Wednesday. Thursday Friday was the

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>second one. So they saved up all my stuff. So

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I got to set and it was like, oh, we

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>have three weeks of just you know, tons of your stuff.

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Hammered it out.

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hammered it out. Everything was great. So we finished

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the show. We had a series series finale.

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 2>End of that year.

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<v Speaker 1>I start noticing little weird things, like, so, I'm an

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>avid driver. I loved I loved driving, and I was

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>like oversteering and hitting curves and weird things.

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what else is scarying on? Scary? Then

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I start noticing that I'm slurring words here and there. Oh,

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 2>and how old are you? I was in my forties, and.

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what was going on, and I was

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>working out with this guy, Harley Pasternak at the time,

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>this amazing trainer. It brings a lot of people, and

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>so I said to him. I was like, dude, I

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going on, man, but like I've been

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>noticing I'm slurring words here and there. And he was like, oh, no,

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I haven't noticed anything. You seem fine.

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>So we kept working out.

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:21.479
<v Speaker 1>We finished the workout, and at the end of it,

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>he goes, so, I've heard you slur a couple.

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Words, and right away alarm bells go off.

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, what's going on. So

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I go to a neurologist at CEDARS.

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>He was like, I don't know what's going on.

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I think you might have like a virus or something.

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>You probably picked it up a couple months.

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 2>It should be okay.

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a virus that you know, kind of attacked maybe

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the frontal cortex, so it's you know, so it affects

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>those things or my ALM will know which part of

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the brain was was effective. I'm sure she's hearing this

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>and she he's like, that's stupid wrong. Jesus Christ fucking

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>set school.

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Here we go. It's exactly what you were talking about.

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>So so I was like, okay, so that was at

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>least something positive, where I was like, okay, it sucks

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>right now, but there's an deal with this, there's an

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>end to it, like it's you know, it's all right.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>And it just progressively got worse and worse. I was

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>slurring more, my speech started to go, my equilibrium started

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to go, my ability to like straighten limbs and like

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>it all started just rapidly declining.

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 4>So does your kids notice?

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>So I only had Noah was born, and then body

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>was young, was really young, so it was he was

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.479
<v Speaker 1>way too young to notice at that time. But my

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, my now twenty three year old, he noticed

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 2>So then I.

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Started it started just rapidly going, and it got to

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the point where I couldn't walk, I couldn't talk, I

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>couldn't read, I couldn't write. I was in physical therapy,

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>speech therapy, everything at cedar Cy and I three days

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a week and I had to rehabit like I had

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>a stroke, even though I didn't have a stroke.

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>And it took four and a half years.

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 4>Did they ever tell you what happened?

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 2>No diagnosis.

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>So then I find a natural doctor in the valley

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>who he does kinesiology, the study of like, you know

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>what you're allergic to based on muscle movement and everything,

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and he's testing me and he tells me, He's like,

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you're one of the most toxic people I've ever had

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>in my office, heavy metals, all sorts of things. So

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>it turns out I had tons of internal inflammation from

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>diet my whole life, but because it was internal, I

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 1>had no idea that it was there. I'd always been

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>physically active, I had always done stuff. And then the

0:33:56.280 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>other biggest part of it was emotional m M.

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 4>I was like, okay, so I need to your body

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 4>was telling you something.

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I need to fucking hit therapy. Yep, hard I like,

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>and I know, I know what my things are like.

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I know growing up in my household, my parents did

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>the best they knew how to do, obviously, but we

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't have healthy debate around the dinner table, but we

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, they weren't open, like, hey, what are your

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that? Oh my god, that's amazing and supportive

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't under to them. They learned these lessons

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>in life, and then that's the fucking way that you do.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>It to teach your kids. You do it this way.

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>That other way. That's the fun, that's the dumb one.

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 2>This is the way that is the most productive. This

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 2>is what.

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>So then it built this part of me where if

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>anybody disagreed with me, I could feel my blood boil

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and my heart racing, and I had major anxiety because

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, I'm not I know

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>what my opinion is, but I'm not used to saying

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 1>my opinion without it being shut down right away. So

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it became like I've got to throw this fucking grenade

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>in the room of what my opinion is, and then

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I've got to get out, and it doesn't matter what

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>is left. But that leaves you in this perpetual state

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.439
<v Speaker 1>of like fighter flight totally. I was in that all

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the time. Most people are in it when your body

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>needs it. I was in it probably ninety five percent.

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Of the time. Me too. I understand it breaks down

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 2>your body.

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>It's exhausting, it's exhausting, but it then you remove the

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>capability of your body to fight other things, right because

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 1>it's so busy fighting itself totally the time.

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 3>So my doctor said this could kill you because being

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 3>in a state of fighter flight with the adrenaline coursing

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 3>through you at all time.

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 4>That's not normal. That's not natural, that is not healthy.

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 4>That's how you have a heart attack.

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 2>That's how I mean.

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's real.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 2>It is absolutely real.

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:05.280
<v Speaker 1>It's real, but it's it comes from such a programmed,

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 1>simple place that you don't even necessarily realize exists at

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 4>It's so obvious that you cannot see it now.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember when they told me about it. I was like,

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:17.879
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about. I'm happy all the time,

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was. I was always like, really easy going

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>with people, and I was always a people pleaser. But

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it was costing me so much to be that way

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't being that way in a healthy way.

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I still am that way naturally, but not at the

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>expense of my own health and my own emotional and

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>mental well being.

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>So I had to learn that, and I found a

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>great therapist that gave me these tools that allowed me

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>to in a healthy way listen, like truly listen to

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>people and not feel intimidated or judged for difference of opinion.

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>But instead I learned to love it.

0:36:59.120 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I love having political conversations with people that do that.

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I do not see.

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Eye to eye with and going listen, I don't understand

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>your views at all at all, but I so desperately

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>want to please explain.

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Them to me.

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>And as soon as you do that, then everybody else

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>their walls come down and they they're not afraid of

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>being judged, and then they get into these conversations and

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>then you get into your views and all of a

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 1>sudden they're open to listening. And most of the time

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you finish those conversations with people going, I fucking love you.

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 2>This is such a great conversation.

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy we had this, and it completely changes

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>their views of things. Yeah, and I've had I've had

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>those on social media, which I like, I had to

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.720
<v Speaker 1>learn how to navigate that because now I'm turning fifty

0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>two this year, so it's like, I that is German

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>to me, Like I social media is crazy. So I

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>had you know, I would have my twenty three year

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 1>old is gay, and I would have people that would

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>say something, you know, something stupid and kind of in

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>passing of like, oh, that's so gay, why would you

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>do that?

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, WHOA hold on a second.

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>We would have these conversations and I had this one

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>woman who was telling me then that her child is

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:22.240
<v Speaker 1>autistic and she's constantly having to protect him from people outside.

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, okay, so then how do you

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>think this is for? Like would you ever speak this

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>way and affect your son? And as soon as I

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>put it in those terms, she was like, no, never.

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>And I said, that's I have a gay child. Like

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that is not that. That is not a word that

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 1>is in my vocabulary anymore, and it shouldn't be in

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:48.799
<v Speaker 1>yours anymore. We now live in twenty twenty two or

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>whatever year it was when we were talking about it,

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and I said, that is not this is a new time,

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and like you need to think responsible or need to

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>think bigger than you do not. Yeah, and you have

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you have a reason to you should understand it.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 4>Yes, you have a connection to this.

0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, total you like you would die for your child.

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Guess what?

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>There are a million fucking children and people dealing with

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>their own shit that is just as important as that.

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 2>You need to treat it as such, Like you need.

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>To have a better blanket view of the fucking world

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>around you. You need to open your eyes a little

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>bit and instead of being in your little bubble and

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 1>thinking like that's the world. It's like, No, the world

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 1>is this massive place. You need to live within that

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:49.320
<v Speaker 1>space instead of this one.

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 3>So how did all of this impact the way you parent?

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, coming from the way you believe you were parented,

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 3>right you EXPERI as a kid?

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, going through what.

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 3>You went through, did it change how you look at

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 3>parenting and how.

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 2>You're sure it did?

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>It's raising good moral people has always been high on

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>the list for me, but it really put me in

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:19.919
<v Speaker 1>a place of I want to teach my kids these

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>tools that I've learned, like I really want to. I

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>want to prop them up and tell them and show

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 1>them how special they are for their beliefs and their things,

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 1>And I don't want them to feel like what I

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 1>know is the best at I say I'm sorry to

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>them whenever I do anything, because I don't want them

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 1>to put me on a pedestal or think that I'm

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>some superhuman right that they live underneath and they'll never

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>be able to live up to me. It's like, I

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:56.280
<v Speaker 1>want them to know we're on an even playing field.

0:40:56.560 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this longer, so I've learned lot more

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 1>along the way. But I absolutely want you all to

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 1>learn as well, like, I don't want to keep somebody

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 1>from traveling on their path and having their life experience

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the way they do. And I think that we rob

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>people of that when we try and fix everything right.

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>And it's not my job to fix everything. It's not

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>my job to be their their best friend, because they're

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a shit ton of friends and best friends

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>throughout their life, but they're only gonna have one father, yeah,

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and one mother.

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, that's that's my job.

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I like, And sometimes I'm going to say things that

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to hear, and I'm gonna have opinions

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>that you're not gonna agree with, Like that's but like

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>if we do it in a healthy way, and I

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>and I do it in a loving way and I'm

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 1>always supportive, then that's I'm gonna do it way better

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>than the fucking world you're gonna walk out out to

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.319
<v Speaker 1>once you're you know, you move out of the house.

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And we talk about this a lot on off

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 3>the cup, modeling your protection of your mental health to

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 3>your kids, showing them how to be imperfect. Mom doesn't

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 3>have all the answers, yeah, Mom. Mom sometimes has struggles

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 3>and she asks for help importantly, you will have struggles.

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 3>You can ask for help, you can talk openly.

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Mom is not perfect. It's so important.

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 2>It's so important.

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.720
<v Speaker 4>We feel this pressure when we first become parents.

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 2>How many kids do you have?

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 4>Just the one?

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 2>Just the one?

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 4>You have five?

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 3>I know, right, I have just the one. But you know,

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 3>I was a hyper ambitious person. I wanted to raise

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 3>not a perfect child, but you know, I put all

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 3>myself into it.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 4>Sure, and my child's also on the spectrum.

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 3>And I had this anxiety and I had this nervous

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 3>breakdown and I felt like I was letting him down

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 3>when I felt like I had just become imperfect. Suddenly

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 3>was always imperfect, but in my mind, I had just

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 3>become imperfect when I had this bringown. So it was

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 3>really important when my therapist told me, like, this is

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 3>so much better for your son to see in age

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 3>appropriate ways, to see you being imperfect, yes, and not

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 3>having it all figured out. That will resonate so much

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 3>more and build him in such a way, give him

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 3>so much many more tools then if you just saw impervious.

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Mom, I have days, you know, you have days that

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>are just overwhelming, and it's like God, like I just

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>have no patience today, Like I know, I'm snap, I'm snapping,

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing all those things. But I think if you

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 1>then approach at the end of that day and you go,

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I had such a terrible day.

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 2>It had nothing to do with you, right anything, And

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry if I snapped at you, and I was,

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to have more of these days just

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 1>like you are, So we're going to get through these together.

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>And then one of the things, one of the other

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:06.439
<v Speaker 1>things I learned having five kids is they're all boys, right,

0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>all boys. I've raised them all the same and they

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>could not be more different. So you realize that they

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.839
<v Speaker 1>are the people that they are when they come out.

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Like there's always that hope as a parent of like,

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you know, I hope he loves music

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>the same way that I do. I hope that, but

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that's not if they do. They do on their own.

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not something you can push. I genuinely feel like

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 1>my job as a parent is to make them morally

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>good people.

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 2>So I don't care what it is you do.

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if you are a drummer or you know,

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you're a studio technician. Just be a good fucking person

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>while you're doing it simple because you're going to be

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>an adult in the world. And I you know, and

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 1>my legacy is not the stuff that I've done, the

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.439
<v Speaker 1>things that are on your paper, the questions, your ass.

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>My legacy is going to be the person that I

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>was to them, the grandfather that I was. That's the stuff.

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:10.959
<v Speaker 1>The friend that I was to people. That's what people

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.240
<v Speaker 1>are going to remember. Yeah, oh, and that's.

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Super important to me.

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 4>You're so wise.

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm not wise like this is.

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm standing on the back and the shoulders of many people.

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.479
<v Speaker 2>This is just all stuff that I've learned along the way.

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I have so much in here, but I don't care

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 3>because this is the This is the good stuff. This

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 3>is the good stuff. And this sort of dovetails. I

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 3>know people want to ask you about your relationships a lot.

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm less interested in that to be to be honest, okay,

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 3>you know it's a little gossipy, but but I do

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 3>want to know.

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 4>And this kind of goes back to something we're talking about.

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.800
<v Speaker 3>I want to know at your age, when you look back,

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 3>how you think about your love life. Do you look

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 3>back with regrets, do you look back with that was

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 3>that was all learning. Do you look back like, man,

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 3>I could have been better here, or how do you

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 3>look back?

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>For sure, I looking back on your life, you can

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 1>always look back and think I could have done that better.

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Hindsight is twenty twenty.

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I look back on all this stuff and I

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>called that was just the dumbest What was I thinking?

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:22.280
<v Speaker 2>You know? What was I doing?

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>But no, I wouldn't change any of it because all

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.879
<v Speaker 1>of it has led me to what I have now

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and who I am now. And I absolutely love myself,

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 1>not in like a narcissistant, yeah, sick way, but I

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 1>couldn't be I couldn't feel more comfortable in my skin.

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't be in a better relationship. My fiance is

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 1>just amazing. She's such an amazing step mom to the kids.

0:46:55.760 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>She's such an amazing mother. So it took these stumbles

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and dumb things to do that. Yeah, yeah, it's you know,

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't it's it's rare unless you have a perfect

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 1>family where it's like your mom and dad are still

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 1>married and things are great, and you've got this example

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>in front of you of like, oh, this is the

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>healthy way that it's supposed to happen, right, then you

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>move usually into a healthy thing to start.

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 2>My parents are still together. They have an amazing relationship now,

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 2>but they were learning and growing as I was younger,

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and so they made mistakes and I saw those mistakes,

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 2>and so then it made me kind of go out

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.560
<v Speaker 2>into the world and go I want the opposite of that.

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, okay, well that's the opposite is you know,

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a tough jungle that you're choosing to be in.

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and.

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, well I like that.

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 3>I always I'm always curious about how people look back

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 3>at the totality of something, the totality of their career,

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 3>the totality of the relationships they are interpersonal relationships.

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 4>I just think it's it's such an insight.

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 2>We have this really cool thing too.

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Like, like I said before, I'm turning fifty two this year,

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and for me, I like some people go through midlife

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 1>crisis and.

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 2>All of that. Yeah, I so don't like.

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I I love the concept of this is the second

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 1>act of my life because if I look at the

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>first act, I had a long fucking life.

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 2>I did a lot of it, did a lot. Yeah,

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:31.399
<v Speaker 2>from like.

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Being an infant all through school all through my twenties,

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>like finding myself, making mistakes, doing shit. So now I

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 1>get to start this second act from who I am

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 1>now forward.

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 3>But how did you get to a place where you

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 3>could embrace that? Because that's a scary place for a

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 3>lot of people to be.

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Which is what leads to the life of what choice do?

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 2>I ask?

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:53.120
<v Speaker 4>Sure?

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 3>But you're looking at it so intentionally and saying my

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:57.919
<v Speaker 3>intention is to embrace this.

0:48:58.360 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 4>And be excited about it.

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Led me to this. It's so great that life has

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 2>led me to this, Like I took.

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 1>It took four and a half years for me to

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>confidently walk and talk again.

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 2>So if I can live through.

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>That, yeah, all the rest of the ship right, it's

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 1>all they're tiny little things.

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 3>They're simple on a scale of one to ten, one

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 3>being never, ten being daily. How often do you think

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 3>about your mortality?

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 2>I one, you don't. I don't.

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 4>What's that like? Sounds amazing? I'm jealous? What is that like?

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 2>It's you don't have any control over it?

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've I've really realized in life that the only

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>thing I have control over is who I choose to be.

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Today while living life. Right, life does this?

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's gonna do this for the rest of your life.

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Who do you want to be during all of it?

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be somebody that like rises when

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>it's during the fucking highs and then hits the really

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:08.480
<v Speaker 1>low lows when it's Or do you want to be

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 1>someone that is, like, I'm going to in a healthy

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:16.239
<v Speaker 1>way deal with this if something is really hard or

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm really sad about it. It's fine to be sad, yeah,

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 1>for sure, but that doesn't mean sad to the point

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of cutting everybody else out and not listening, like not

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:28.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, being conscious in what in the choices that

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you're making every day and being the best person you can.

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 2>It's just a choice.

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Like, it's not you're not either bred better than someone

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>or worse than someone.

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 2>It's all just a choice.

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:43.839
<v Speaker 1>You're either going to choose every single day to wake

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 1>up and go okay and every situation.

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Who do I want to be in this moment?

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Do I want to be somebody that like is goes

0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:57.439
<v Speaker 1>flies off the fucking hook rightly? Or do I want

0:50:57.440 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to sit back and take a breath and go okay,

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Like my nature is to react this way, but that

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>is not the best choice right now, and I do

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I do it all the time, you know when when

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>people say that your first instinct when someone says something

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>shitty about you is you want to defend yourself. Yes,

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to like say whatever you need to say

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 1>to clear your name. But is that the best thing

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to do at times? And if it's not on social media?

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:29.319
<v Speaker 1>If not, then don't fucking do it?

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right right?

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Because people forget about this this shit that other people say,

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you leave it alone.

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 2>It goes away in a day.

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, the world now they they they forget in

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>thirty fucking minutes because a new story is out that

0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 1>takes total, huge precedence over somebody saying you were nasty

0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:53.400
<v Speaker 1>at something, yeah, you know, or or you cheated them

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 1>out of ten dollars on a thing like fucking cares?

0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who cares?

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:01.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's good advice for everyone. But yeah, but

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 4>that's not easy. It's not easy.

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Monks live on the top of a fucking hill because

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>they literally can't have people around them.

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:10.440
<v Speaker 2>They're like, I need to live all by myself.

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 4>The only way I can do that, Yeah, and.

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Scrub floors and do whatever I have to do to

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 1>like stay focused. So it's not easy, but everybody is like, oh,

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 1>monks are like these magical people that you know are

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>able to live on It's.

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Like, no, no, they're not.

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 1>They just make the choice to do that, to fucking

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:31.839
<v Speaker 1>live that way. It's not like in their DNA right right,

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>They're not you know, more special that.

0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 2>They're just making higher level choices. Yeah, that's all.

0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.320
<v Speaker 4>So what do you think happens when we die? I

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 4>have no idea and that's okay.

0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:47.960
<v Speaker 2>It's it has to be like what choice do I have?

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:52.280
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea and I'm going to die. Yes,

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 2>it's going to happen.

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely gonna but it's happened before because so I

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.839
<v Speaker 1>believe in rebirth. I belie leave in okay, you know,

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 1>living multiple lives and having different experiences and your spirit

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and your soul kind of learning and growing as it

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:13.760
<v Speaker 1>goes until it gets to a lifetime where it's like, okay,

0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I've like I'm done here now I'm going to go

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 1>when I die, I'm going to go do who fucking knows.

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 3>That's the premise of Have you seen a movie called

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 3>Defending Your Life? No, Albert Brooks and Meryl Street. Really

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:27.279
<v Speaker 3>this is the prime. It's a comedy, but this is

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 3>the premise that that you keep getting sent back to

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Earth to learn and it's a new life and you've

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 3>learned that, and then when you're finally done, then you

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 3>move on. And I think that's a concept that is

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:44.080
<v Speaker 3>both very comforting, right, but it also kind of makes sense,

0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:45.080
<v Speaker 3>like it would make.

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Sense why you meet You meet old souls all the

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 1>time exactly, and then don't you also meet people that

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:55.760
<v Speaker 1>are obviously young literally just cannot fucking get into another

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 1>They can't like you, you spend two hours talking to

0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 1>him about something and they're like, so I really just

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 1>need to like borrow fifteen hundred bucks, you know, because

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, wow, none of that's soaked in at all.

0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Those are the people that it's like, okay, you know,

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the next time, like it's you know, when they fucking

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 1>call it quits and things go wrong, it's like you'll

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 1>be back in like, you know, thirty days.

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 4>That's so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got the old souls where you go, oh,

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you've been here before, you've been you've been doing this.

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:27.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Our Sean and I are our baby who's a couple

0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:33.920
<v Speaker 1>months away from three, which is cool. It's crazy how

0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:38.759
<v Speaker 1>fast it happens. Yeah. He at the point when he

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:42.320
<v Speaker 1>was born, I was holding him and he was looking

0:54:42.400 --> 0:54:45.240
<v Speaker 1>around the room like I've been here before.

0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Stop it.

0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:50.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not not like crying, not like oh my god,

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:52.400
<v Speaker 1>where am I What's going on? He just had that

0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 1>thing of like.

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm here again.

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:54.839
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:57.799
<v Speaker 2>He had that look in his eye. And he he

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 2>is incredibly He wants.

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 1>To do everything on his own. He hates being a baby.

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:07.640
<v Speaker 1>You can tell, Oh my god, he hates it. Everything

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:09.920
<v Speaker 1>is like I can do it, I want to do it.

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's like stepstools and climb on the

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 1>things and pour the stuff and do like it's he

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 1>wants to do all of.

0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 2>It because he hates it.

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:20.720
<v Speaker 1>When you do it for him, you can tell he's

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable in being in being a baby and dependent.

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he hates it.

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 4>That's fascinating.

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I wish that I didn't have to keep changing his

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:34.280
<v Speaker 1>diaper and wiping his ass Like I wish he had more,

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, sival.

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wish. I wish he was like, oh, let

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 2>me fix this.

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Also, like body training doesn't seem that hard in the

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:46.880
<v Speaker 1>grand scheme of things. Sit on a fucking fake toilet

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and figure this ship out because I'm tired of wiping

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:49.760
<v Speaker 1>your ass.

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:53.160
<v Speaker 2>But you know, all the rest of it. He wants

0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:53.799
<v Speaker 2>to do all of it.

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:55.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's great.

0:55:55.360 --> 0:56:08.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to end with the Lightning Round and these.

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.000
<v Speaker 4>Are fun and fast and okay, let's do it easy. Okay,

0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 4>let's go. What is your love language?

0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 2>My love language is acts of service.

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:27.080
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yep, this is a quiz. What was the fictional name?

0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 2>So fast we've moved on from the Lightning Round. Okay,

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 2>this is the Lightning round.

0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 4>Inside the Lightning Round.

0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:36.000
<v Speaker 3>What was the fictional name of the record producer for

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Icon Records who wanted to produce David's album?

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Zach No fantastic surge? Right? Was it

0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 2>really so close to surge? Tankian?

0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:51.759
<v Speaker 2>There you go there, just to move it down.

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 4>Do you still talk to Douglas Emerson?

0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I do, yeah, for people you don't know.

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.520
<v Speaker 4>He played Scott's friend. He was sort of nerdy. You

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:00.440
<v Speaker 4>kind of moved on.

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<v Speaker 2>From him and shot himself accentally memorable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so Doug. Doug joined the Navy after the show.

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<v Speaker 1>He served for years and he he lives at home

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<v Speaker 1>with his wife and his kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's a fantastic human being.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that. What was your least favorite episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, all of them? Stop. I So I

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<v Speaker 2>was so that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've talked about it a million times. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so fucking insecure, and I was. I did the show

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<v Speaker 1>from seventeen to twenty seven, so it was like the

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<v Speaker 1>most formidable years of my life. And I hated the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that so many people were watching it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, I didn't want to look at anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the eye because you.

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<v Speaker 4>Were in a microscope.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was going through the hardest fucking time of your life

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, one hundred and ninety countries watching our show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and like sleeping on our pillowcases and shadow.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want anything to do with any of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay. What's your favorite movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Jaws?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 4>My husband, who's here?

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<v Speaker 2>You met him?

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<v Speaker 4>That's his too?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it really? Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. What was your best vacation?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I've been to Australia a few times now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is spot. I that's my spot, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh Kona is my spot? Oh yeah, the Fort Jwalai

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<v Speaker 1>and ConA, Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I go there with the kids and it's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>do you.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a vista?

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<v Speaker 2>I do? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your favorite restaurant?

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite restaurant is it's a sushi place, awesin Abo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on Ventura Bolivar, Okay and Laurel Canyon. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>this tiny little strip mall and it's the best Japanese food.

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<v Speaker 4>Sushi is like I mean, not always.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ventura Boulevard, yeah, crazy enough has some of the

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<v Speaker 1>best sushi in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>So say that, I don't know why. Austin Abo, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll it'll literally be one of the best meals you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever eaten. I've sent people there that are like foodies

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh my god, that place. They go

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<v Speaker 1>there all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Now restaurants are my thing, So okay, I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 3>H The last question is the most important to me

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<v Speaker 3>spiritually and culturally.

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<v Speaker 4>When is it iced coffee season?

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<v Speaker 2>For me? It's never ice coffee season.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, Ever, I like when it's boiling hot outside,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll still get a hot like chilate that person.

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<v Speaker 4>That guy, Yeah, I mean that that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but it's right totally.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because I'm from Massachusetts. Dunk and Donuts. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>part of who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like very in Massachusetts. Aren't you doing hot coffee

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the time?

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<v Speaker 3>Never, it's always iced, it's always ice in freezing temperature.

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<v Speaker 3>Big is wrong with you? Yeah, yeah, it's it's real.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a part of my like where it is with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, but that's okay, that's okay. We

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<v Speaker 3>can still be friends.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't still be friends.

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<v Speaker 4>I really loved this. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having I can talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you all night, for reaching out. What you will.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to come on my show the next time

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<v Speaker 1>you're in and then we're going to do more of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that.

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<v Speaker 4>This was a very soul enriching conversation. It made me

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<v Speaker 4>feel good. Thank you, Thanks Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Next week on Off the Cup, Donnie Deutsch.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember getting in college the first day and meeting

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<v Speaker 5>all these kids that you know, had their own BMW's,

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<v Speaker 5>and I just remember I couldn't wait to play cards

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<v Speaker 5>with them and take their money, you know, and because

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<v Speaker 5>they didn't have but the one thing they didn't have,

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<v Speaker 5>they didn't have both the street smarts, and they didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have the same hunger I had.

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