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Speaker 1: I love the concept of this is the second act

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Speaker 1: first act, I had a long fucking life.

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Speaker 2: I did a lot of it. She did a lot, yeah,

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Speaker 1: All through school, yeah, all through my twenties, like finding myself,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Off the Cop, my personal anti anxiety antidote.

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Speaker 3: This episode is special because I'm coming to on Location.

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Speaker 3: Nineties con is happening in Hartford, Connecticut this weekend, and

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Speaker 3: I traveled here.

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Speaker 4: With one purpose in mind to interview this guest.

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Speaker 3: Now, I grew up with this person, not literally, of course,

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Speaker 3: person if you were between the ages of eleven and

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Speaker 3: twenty five in the nineties. And I remember watching the

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Speaker 4: I was young. I was probably too young.

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Speaker 2: I think I was like eleven, bad parenting.

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Speaker 3: Woh yes, no, But I hit it from my parents. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I hit it because this show was not appropriate for

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Speaker 3: with the rest of the nation, and that show gave.

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Speaker 4: Us so much. For ten seasons.

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Speaker 3: It covered sex, date, rape, racism, drugs, eating disorders, you

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Speaker 3: name the teen affliction, and this show did it and

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Speaker 3: as cool as these kids were. Well, now one of

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Speaker 4: Brian Austin Green, Welcome to Off the Cup.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 4: It's so excited.

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Speaker 1: Like when you I said this before, when you reached

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Speaker 2: I was like, yet, absolutely because you had so you.

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Speaker 1: I have so much respect for you and what you do,

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Speaker 1: because it's so brave what you do. Like you you

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Speaker 1: put your opinion out there knowing that there's going to

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Speaker 1: for it, absolutely, and you do it anyway, and it's

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Speaker 1: that's amazing. I do not do that. I sit at

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Speaker 4: I try just a wash in nineties nostalgia.

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Speaker 1: So this is it's they play all nineties music. It's

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Speaker 1: Do you like doing these I love honest, So I so,

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Speaker 1: Some of these other conventions you do that are very

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Speaker 1: Andy Serkis will be there and the kids from like

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Speaker 3: Do you have any personal space rules when you're at

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Speaker 1: They spent all this time going through and they're like,

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to get into it. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: you talk about that a lot, and yeah, you're more

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Speaker 2: I am more than that.

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Speaker 4: You're more than that. Well, you're a full person. That's

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Speaker 2: So I yes, so I am.

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Speaker 1: It's funny now when I sit with people, I want

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Speaker 3: I was writing about like culture, and then nine to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so crazy, and it was it used.

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Speaker 4: To be fun covering politics when it was normal.

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Speaker 1: Well, but it's got to be fun covering on the

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Speaker 3: It's always fun covering something novel and different. And as

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Speaker 4: But it's exhausting. It's exhausting covering politics for sure, Day Today.

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Speaker 4: You're heading into season three of Oldish.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's another podcast you host with Sharna Burgess and

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Speaker 3: Randy Spelling.

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Speaker 2: Any Spelling Toy's younger brother.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, getting older is a journey, isn't it. Why do

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Speaker 1: Because well, what else am I going to talk about?

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about like the younger stuff

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't relate to that anymore.

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Speaker 1: And it honestly started because Randy's been a professional life coach, yeah,

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Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't it was pretty rudimentary, but it

447
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: was at the time it was amazing.

448
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 2: So we had all this stuff and I was like,

449
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 2: are you rich, Like how ya? How do you have

450
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: all this stuff?

451
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: And he told me he was like, oh, I do

452
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: commercials and my parents gave me a percentage of it.

453
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: I was like I want to do that. That's amazing.

454
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 2: I'll absolutely take that time.

455
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 4: Amazing.

456
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: So I told my parents and they were like, if

457
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: in six months, you still want to do it, because

458
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: they knew they were smart enough to realize how much

459
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 1: it was going to take for them. Yeah, too, You're

460
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to drive me to auditions. We're gonna have

461
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: to do headshots, they're gonna have to you know, acting classes,

462
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: all the stuff, and it was going to take up

463
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: It was a it's a full time job, preparent and

464
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: six months later, I still wanted to do it, not

465
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: realizing how much was going to go into it, And

466
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: I went and met with my friend's agent and they

467
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: signed me for commercials and theatrical work.

468
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 2: I booked nothing for the first year.

469
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 4: For the first year nothing.

470
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: I had no idea what I was doing.

471
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: I didn't understand the concept of, oh, these people are

472
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: going to pay me, so I have to do what

473
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: it is they want me to do.

474
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: I was just young. Yeah, I was like, this.

475
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: Is amazing, Like sign in and go in the room

476
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: and like, hey, everybody, how you guys doing. And they'd asked,

477
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, ask for certain things, and I was like, oh,

478
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: I'll do them. But it's all about this, right, It's

479
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: all about like just me being this like funny kid.

480
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 1: And then I booked my first commercial and it was

481
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: it was a bank commercial and it never aired, but

482
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: something clicked for me when I booked it. And then

483
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: I went and I shot it of like, oh, I'm

484
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: here to do a job.

485
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 4: It's a job.

486
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm a kid, but they're paying me to

487
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: do something specific.

488
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 4: It's adults.

489
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: Adults are paying you, right, adults, they do not give

490
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: a shit. Yeah, like I would rather be skating right right,

491
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: you know, right right.

492
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: And then from that point on, I booked literally everything

493
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 1: that I went in.

494
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: Wow.

495
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did probably seventy five commercials as a kid.

496
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: I did.

497
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: I started doing a show called Knots Landing when I

498
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: was about ten and a half, right, and then music

499
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: just kind of had to I had to start compartmentalizing everything.

500
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: And it was like, okay, music, even though I've been

501
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: studying it my whole life, this is taking up all

502
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: of my time.

503
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 4: Do you have any regrets?

504
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: No about that. I have no regrets. Yeah, I don't. Now.

505
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: When I was younger, I did, of course, because it

506
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh but my you know, I'm missing such

507
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: a big part of my passion and all that. Now

508
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: looking back on it, I'm a big I'm a big

509
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: believer in the fact that I have learned way more

510
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: from my failures than I have for my successes. My successes.

511
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: It's what's the old saying, if it ain't broke, don't

512
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: fix it.

513
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 4: Right.

514
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: So if it works, you just fucking keep doing it,

515
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: keep going right, just keep going. It's the things that

516
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: didn't work, yes, where I've had to sit down and go, Okay,

517
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: why didn't that work?

518
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: What do I have to do differently next time?

519
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 4: Self examination?

520
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: Self examination?

521
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a bitch, It can be a real bit.

522
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: It's a bitch.

523
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: But the end it's I always say, the road less

524
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: traveled is called that for a reason. It's less traveled

525
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: because it's a it's hard fucking road to go on.

526
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: But the end of that road is so much more

527
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: rewarding totally than the average road, and we'll just skate along.

528
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 3: It's so true, and sometimes so like I had a

529
00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 3: mental breakdown, total nervous breakdown at forty at forty and

530
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 3: I it coincided with a lot of things, but and

531
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: I suffered from anxiety, but.

532
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 4: My twenties and thirties.

533
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: My career was on an upward trajectory the entire time.

534
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 3: Right there were and I hustled, I was there were

535
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: no lows. I worked my ass off and I kept

536
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: moving up, up, up up.

537
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: Then I plateau and not in the way that like,

538
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 4: you know, not in the way.

539
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: That like, well, I've made it to the top of

540
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: the mountain, I'm just gonna sit here.

541
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: No, like like no, there's more yeah, yeah, and I'm

542
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: not getting there correct. It's like it's like having a

543
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: gym membership and you're like, no matter what I fucking knew,

544
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: I can't lose.

545
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 3: No changes pounds exactly what it is. And it really,

546
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: it really messed with my head because I had no

547
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: tools to adapt or because I had been up, up, up,

548
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 3: up right and not self examining and not checking with

549
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: my mental health and just living anxiously not knowing.

550
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: You were succeeding. Why would sing? Why would you check?

551
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: You had nothing to check in with exactly right, like

552
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: and broke fucking why fix it?

553
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: Missed?

554
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: Yes?

555
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And in the beginning when I started like therapy,

556
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: and I really was angry that this happened to me.

557
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: And then I'm having to do this.

558
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: I'm having to self examine and I'm having to and

559
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: now that I'm like.

560
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: Five years in, I have such a different attitude about it.

561
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: I was not a whole person before I started looking

562
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: at myself and asking myself, Am I.

563
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: Doing these things for the right reasons?

564
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: Right?

565
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 4: Am I enjoying these things?

566
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: What about the rest of me outside of work? Does

567
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: is the is there a person there? And like, finding

568
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 3: an identity outside of my work was hard.

569
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: Cats and catalysts come in crazy packages and it's like

570
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: and they hit you fucking hard something.

571
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: So I had a neurological breakdown.

572
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, tell me about because I've read about, But tell

573
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 4: me about what did you know this first?

574
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: So, so, the first thing that I was noticing in

575
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: my thirties was ulsterrative colitis. Came out of nowhere, like

576
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: thirty five years old, really bad. And I went to

577
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: a doctor, a GI doctor who was amazing. He's like

578
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: top of his field. He's at Cedars in Los Angeles,

579
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: and he did the camera with all the stuff and

580
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: he was like, Oh, you've got the sores of someone

581
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: that's had colitis for like seven years. Oh my god.

582
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I've had it for like seven days,

583
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: so it doesn't make any sense.

584
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: Do you know why he couldn't figure it out. It's like,

585
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense.

586
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: So we started looking at my diet and things, and

587
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'll stop with the dairy, like

588
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: I'll do the you know, I'll stop the things that

589
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: I think might have triggered it. But I would have it.

590
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: Most people that have colitis they get it like monthly,

591
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: Like these flare ups are constant. I was getting them

592
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: like once a year.

593
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: It's very odd.

594
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 4: It was very strange.

595
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: So then all of a sudd I was doing anger

596
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: management with Charlie Sheen, who is the nicest guy.

597
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: In the world by the way, let me just throw

598
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: that throw that in.

599
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: And I woke up one morning I was supposed to

600
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: be at work and I had really bad vertigo. So

601
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: for the first time, my first time ever in my life.

602
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: So I text the producer and I said, hey, I'm like,

603
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: I'm feeling terrible, Like, I'll text you later on the

604
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: day if it feels better, and we'll figure it out

605
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: later on the day. I was like, nope, it's like

606
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, so let me just text you tomorrow,

607
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: and he was like, no problem, we'll get the day done.

608
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: It'll be fine, Thank God. Like the schedule and the

609
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: way that show worked, it was fantastic.

610
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: They were great.

611
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: Next morning, Nope, still had it and twenty four hours

612
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: a day like it wasn't it was.

613
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

614
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: The only time I didn't was when my head was

615
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: on the pillow and I was laying God, as soon

616
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: as I sat up, it would spin like ferociously. I'd

617
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: get incredibly nauseous. Sure, I threw up probably fifteen times

618
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: a day. I mean that's that's.

619
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: Oh my God for you.

620
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: No.

621
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: No, but like so.

622
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: It was horrible. And for three months I had him,

623
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: No three months.

624
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: In that time, that three month time where you felt horrible. Yeah,

625
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: did you get depressed for sure?

626
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Terrified? Yeah, Because there was no diagnosis.

627
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: It was like I don't know, yeah, you know, I

628
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: didn't know, like, oh my god, did I eat something weird?

629
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: Like what why is this happening?

630
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: And I was seeing a guy at Kech Institute at

631
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: that point that was like a specialist in vertigo and

632
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: all of that treatment, and he was like he did

633
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: all the positions, all the stuff, nothing helped, And he

634
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what is going on with you.

635
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: All of a sudden one day that stopped out of nowhere.

636
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: So I go back to and your management. They had

637
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: kind of they the way the show, oh shot was.

638
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: They shot it like it was a live audience show,

639
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. It was all just sort of can

640
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: laughter and whatever. And we would do two episodes a week.

641
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: We would do one Monday Tuesday, first half a Wednesday,

642
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: then the second half a Wednesday. Thursday Friday was the

643
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: second one. So they saved up all my stuff. So

644
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: I got to set and it was like, oh, we

645
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: have three weeks of just you know, tons of your stuff.

646
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 4: Hammered it out.

647
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, hammered it out. Everything was great. So we finished

648
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: the show. We had a series series finale.

649
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: End of that year.

650
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: I start noticing little weird things, like, so, I'm an

651
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: avid driver. I loved I loved driving, and I was

652
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: like oversteering and hitting curves and weird things.

653
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: I was like, what else is scarying on? Scary? Then

654
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 2: I start noticing that I'm slurring words here and there. Oh,

655
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: and how old are you? I was in my forties, and.

656
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on, and I was

657
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: working out with this guy, Harley Pasternak at the time,

658
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: this amazing trainer. It brings a lot of people, and

659
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: so I said to him. I was like, dude, I

660
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, man, but like I've been

661
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: noticing I'm slurring words here and there. And he was like, oh, no,

662
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: I haven't noticed anything. You seem fine.

663
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: So we kept working out.

664
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 1: We finished the workout, and at the end of it,

665
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: he goes, so, I've heard you slur a couple.

666
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: Words, and right away alarm bells go off.

667
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, what's going on. So

668
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: I go to a neurologist at CEDARS.

669
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: He was like, I don't know what's going on.

670
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: I think you might have like a virus or something.

671
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: You probably picked it up a couple months.

672
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: It should be okay.

673
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: It's a virus that you know, kind of attacked maybe

674
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: the frontal cortex, so it's you know, so it affects

675
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: those things or my ALM will know which part of

676
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: the brain was was effective. I'm sure she's hearing this

677
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: and she he's like, that's stupid wrong. Jesus Christ fucking

678
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: set school.

679
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: Here we go. It's exactly what you were talking about.

680
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: So so I was like, okay, so that was at

681
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: least something positive, where I was like, okay, it sucks

682
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: right now, but there's an deal with this, there's an

683
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: end to it, like it's you know, it's all right.

684
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: And it just progressively got worse and worse. I was

685
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: slurring more, my speech started to go, my equilibrium started

686
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: to go, my ability to like straighten limbs and like

687
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: it all started just rapidly declining.

688
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: So does your kids notice?

689
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: So I only had Noah was born, and then body

690
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: was young, was really young, so it was he was

691
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: way too young to notice at that time. But my

692
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: twenty three, my now twenty three year old, he noticed

693
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: for sure.

694
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: So then I.

695
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Started it started just rapidly going, and it got to

696
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: the point where I couldn't walk, I couldn't talk, I

697
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: couldn't read, I couldn't write. I was in physical therapy,

698
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: speech therapy, everything at cedar Cy and I three days

699
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: a week and I had to rehabit like I had

700
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: a stroke, even though I didn't have a stroke.

701
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: And it took four and a half years.

702
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 4: Did they ever tell you what happened?

703
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: No diagnosis.

704
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: So then I find a natural doctor in the valley

705
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: who he does kinesiology, the study of like, you know

706
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: what you're allergic to based on muscle movement and everything,

707
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: and he's testing me and he tells me, He's like,

708
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: you're one of the most toxic people I've ever had

709
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: in my office, heavy metals, all sorts of things. So

710
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: it turns out I had tons of internal inflammation from

711
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: diet my whole life, but because it was internal, I

712
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: had no idea that it was there. I'd always been

713
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: physically active, I had always done stuff. And then the

714
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: other biggest part of it was emotional m M.

715
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, so I need to your body

716
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: was telling you something.

717
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: I need to fucking hit therapy. Yep, hard I like,

718
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: and I know, I know what my things are like.

719
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: I know growing up in my household, my parents did

720
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: the best they knew how to do, obviously, but we

721
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: didn't have healthy debate around the dinner table, but we

722
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: you know, they weren't open, like, hey, what are your

723
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: thoughts on that? Oh my god, that's amazing and supportive

724
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: because they didn't under to them. They learned these lessons

725
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: in life, and then that's the fucking way that you do.

726
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: It to teach your kids. You do it this way.

727
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: That other way. That's the fun, that's the dumb one.

728
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: This is the way that is the most productive. This

729
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: is what.

730
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: So then it built this part of me where if

731
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: anybody disagreed with me, I could feel my blood boil

732
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: and my heart racing, and I had major anxiety because

733
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm not I know

734
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: what my opinion is, but I'm not used to saying

735
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: my opinion without it being shut down right away. So

736
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: it became like I've got to throw this fucking grenade

737
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: in the room of what my opinion is, and then

738
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: I've got to get out, and it doesn't matter what

739
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: is left. But that leaves you in this perpetual state

740
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: of like fighter flight totally. I was in that all

741
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: the time. Most people are in it when your body

742
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: needs it. I was in it probably ninety five percent.

743
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: Of the time. Me too. I understand it breaks down

744
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: your body.

745
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: It's exhausting, it's exhausting, but it then you remove the

746
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: capability of your body to fight other things, right because

747
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: it's so busy fighting itself totally the time.

748
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: Yep.

749
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: So my doctor said this could kill you because being

750
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: in a state of fighter flight with the adrenaline coursing

751
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: through you at all time.

752
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: That's not normal. That's not natural, that is not healthy.

753
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: That's how you have a heart attack.

754
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: That's how I mean.

755
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's real.

756
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: It is absolutely real.

757
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: It's real, but it's it comes from such a programmed,

758
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: simple place that you don't even necessarily realize exists at

759
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: the time.

760
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 4: It's so obvious that you cannot see it now.

761
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: I remember when they told me about it. I was like,

762
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: what are you talking about. I'm happy all the time,

763
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: and I was. I was always like, really easy going

764
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: with people, and I was always a people pleaser. But

765
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: it was costing me so much to be that way

766
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: because I wasn't being that way in a healthy way.

767
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I still am that way naturally, but not at the

768
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: expense of my own health and my own emotional and

769
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: mental well being.

770
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

771
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: So I had to learn that, and I found a

772
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: great therapist that gave me these tools that allowed me

773
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: to in a healthy way listen, like truly listen to

774
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: people and not feel intimidated or judged for difference of opinion.

775
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: But instead I learned to love it.

776
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

777
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: I love having political conversations with people that do that.

778
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: I do not see.

779
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: Eye to eye with and going listen, I don't understand

780
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: your views at all at all, but I so desperately

781
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: want to please explain.

782
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: Them to me.

783
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: And as soon as you do that, then everybody else

784
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: their walls come down and they they're not afraid of

785
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: being judged, and then they get into these conversations and

786
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: then you get into your views and all of a

787
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: sudden they're open to listening. And most of the time

788
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: you finish those conversations with people going, I fucking love you.

789
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: This is such a great conversation.

790
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm so happy we had this, and it completely changes

791
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: their views of things. Yeah, and I've had I've had

792
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: those on social media, which I like, I had to

793
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: learn how to navigate that because now I'm turning fifty

794
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: two this year, so it's like, I that is German

795
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: to me, Like I social media is crazy. So I

796
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: had you know, I would have my twenty three year

797
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: old is gay, and I would have people that would

798
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: say something, you know, something stupid and kind of in

799
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: passing of like, oh, that's so gay, why would you

800
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: do that?

801
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: And I was like, WHOA hold on a second.

802
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: We would have these conversations and I had this one

803
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: woman who was telling me then that her child is

804
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: autistic and she's constantly having to protect him from people outside.

805
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, so then how do you

806
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: think this is for? Like would you ever speak this

807
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: way and affect your son? And as soon as I

808
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: put it in those terms, she was like, no, never.

809
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: And I said, that's I have a gay child. Like

810
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: that is not that. That is not a word that

811
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: is in my vocabulary anymore, and it shouldn't be in

812
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: yours anymore. We now live in twenty twenty two or

813
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: whatever year it was when we were talking about it,

814
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: and I said, that is not this is a new time,

815
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: and like you need to think responsible or need to

816
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: think bigger than you do not. Yeah, and you have

817
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: you have a reason to you should understand it.

818
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: Yes, you have a connection to this.

819
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, total you like you would die for your child.

820
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: Guess what?

821
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: There are a million fucking children and people dealing with

822
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: their own shit that is just as important as that.

823
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: You need to treat it as such, Like you need.

824
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: To have a better blanket view of the fucking world

825
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: around you. You need to open your eyes a little

826
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: bit and instead of being in your little bubble and

827
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: thinking like that's the world. It's like, No, the world

828
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: is this massive place. You need to live within that

829
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: space instead of this one.

830
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: So how did all of this impact the way you parent?

831
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: You know, coming from the way you believe you were parented,

832
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: right you EXPERI as a kid?

833
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, going through what.

834
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: You went through, did it change how you look at

835
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: parenting and how.

836
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: You're sure it did?

837
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: It's raising good moral people has always been high on

838
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: the list for me, but it really put me in

839
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: a place of I want to teach my kids these

840
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: tools that I've learned, like I really want to. I

841
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: want to prop them up and tell them and show

842
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: them how special they are for their beliefs and their things,

843
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: And I don't want them to feel like what I

844
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: know is the best at I say I'm sorry to

845
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: them whenever I do anything, because I don't want them

846
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: to put me on a pedestal or think that I'm

847
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: some superhuman right that they live underneath and they'll never

848
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: be able to live up to me. It's like, I

849
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: want them to know we're on an even playing field.

850
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: I've been doing this longer, so I've learned lot more

851
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: along the way. But I absolutely want you all to

852
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: learn as well, like, I don't want to keep somebody

853
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: from traveling on their path and having their life experience

854
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: the way they do. And I think that we rob

855
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: people of that when we try and fix everything right.

856
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: And it's not my job to fix everything. It's not

857
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: my job to be their their best friend, because they're

858
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: gonna have a shit ton of friends and best friends

859
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: throughout their life, but they're only gonna have one father, yeah,

860
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: and one mother.

861
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: So it's like, that's that's my job.

862
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: I like, And sometimes I'm going to say things that

863
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear, and I'm gonna have opinions

864
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: that you're not gonna agree with, Like that's but like

865
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: if we do it in a healthy way, and I

866
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: and I do it in a loving way and I'm

867
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: always supportive, then that's I'm gonna do it way better

868
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: than the fucking world you're gonna walk out out to

869
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: once you're you know, you move out of the house.

870
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we talk about this a lot on off

871
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: the cup, modeling your protection of your mental health to

872
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 3: your kids, showing them how to be imperfect. Mom doesn't

873
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: have all the answers, yeah, Mom. Mom sometimes has struggles

874
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: and she asks for help importantly, you will have struggles.

875
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: You can ask for help, you can talk openly.

876
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: Mom is not perfect. It's so important.

877
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: It's so important.

878
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 4: We feel this pressure when we first become parents.

879
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: How many kids do you have?

880
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: Just the one?

881
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: Just the one?

882
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 4: You have five?

883
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: I know, right, I have just the one. But you know,

884
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: I was a hyper ambitious person. I wanted to raise

885
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: not a perfect child, but you know, I put all

886
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: myself into it.

887
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: Sure, and my child's also on the spectrum.

888
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: And I had this anxiety and I had this nervous

889
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: breakdown and I felt like I was letting him down

890
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: when I felt like I had just become imperfect. Suddenly

891
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: was always imperfect, but in my mind, I had just

892
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: become imperfect when I had this bringown. So it was

893
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: really important when my therapist told me, like, this is

894
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: so much better for your son to see in age

895
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 3: appropriate ways, to see you being imperfect, yes, and not

896
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: having it all figured out. That will resonate so much

897
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: more and build him in such a way, give him

898
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: so much many more tools then if you just saw impervious.

899
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: Mom, I have days, you know, you have days that

900
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: are just overwhelming, and it's like God, like I just

901
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: have no patience today, Like I know, I'm snap, I'm snapping,

902
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing all those things. But I think if you

903
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: then approach at the end of that day and you go,

904
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: I had such a terrible day.

905
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: It had nothing to do with you, right anything, And

906
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

907
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry if I snapped at you, and I was,

908
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: But I'm going to have more of these days just

909
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: like you are, So we're going to get through these together.

910
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: And then one of the things, one of the other

911
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: things I learned having five kids is they're all boys, right,

912
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: all boys. I've raised them all the same and they

913
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: could not be more different. So you realize that they

914
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: are the people that they are when they come out.

915
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: Like there's always that hope as a parent of like,

916
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know, I hope he loves music

917
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: the same way that I do. I hope that, but

918
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: that's not if they do. They do on their own.

919
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: It's not something you can push. I genuinely feel like

920
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: my job as a parent is to make them morally

921
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: good people.

922
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: So I don't care what it is you do.

923
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't care if you are a drummer or you know,

924
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: you're a studio technician. Just be a good fucking person

925
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: while you're doing it simple because you're going to be

926
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: an adult in the world. And I you know, and

927
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: my legacy is not the stuff that I've done, the

928
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: things that are on your paper, the questions, your ass.

929
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: My legacy is going to be the person that I

930
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: was to them, the grandfather that I was. That's the stuff.

931
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 1: The friend that I was to people. That's what people

932
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: are going to remember. Yeah, oh, and that's.

933
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Super important to me.

934
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: You're so wise.

935
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: I'm not wise like this is.

936
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm standing on the back and the shoulders of many people.

937
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 2: This is just all stuff that I've learned along the way.

938
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

939
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: I have so much in here, but I don't care

940
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: because this is the This is the good stuff. This

941
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: is the good stuff. And this sort of dovetails. I

942
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: know people want to ask you about your relationships a lot.

943
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: I'm less interested in that to be to be honest, okay,

944
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: you know it's a little gossipy, but but I do

945
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: want to know.

946
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 4: And this kind of goes back to something we're talking about.

947
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 3: I want to know at your age, when you look back,

948
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: how you think about your love life. Do you look

949
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 3: back with regrets, do you look back with that was

950
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: that was all learning. Do you look back like, man,

951
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: I could have been better here, or how do you

952
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: look back?

953
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: For sure, I looking back on your life, you can

954
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: always look back and think I could have done that better.

955
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: Hindsight is twenty twenty.

956
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look back on all this stuff and I

957
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: called that was just the dumbest What was I thinking?

958
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 2: You know? What was I doing?

959
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: But no, I wouldn't change any of it because all

960
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: of it has led me to what I have now

961
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: and who I am now. And I absolutely love myself,

962
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: not in like a narcissistant, yeah, sick way, but I

963
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: couldn't be I couldn't feel more comfortable in my skin.

964
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't be in a better relationship. My fiance is

965
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: just amazing. She's such an amazing step mom to the kids.

966
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: She's such an amazing mother. So it took these stumbles

967
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: and dumb things to do that. Yeah, yeah, it's you know,

968
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: you don't it's it's rare unless you have a perfect

969
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: family where it's like your mom and dad are still

970
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: married and things are great, and you've got this example

971
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: in front of you of like, oh, this is the

972
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: healthy way that it's supposed to happen, right, then you

973
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: move usually into a healthy thing to start.

974
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: My parents are still together. They have an amazing relationship now,

975
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: but they were learning and growing as I was younger,

976
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: and so they made mistakes and I saw those mistakes,

977
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: and so then it made me kind of go out

978
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: into the world and go I want the opposite of that.

979
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, okay, well that's the opposite is you know,

980
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: that's a tough jungle that you're choosing to be in.

981
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

982
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I like that.

983
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: I always I'm always curious about how people look back

984
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: at the totality of something, the totality of their career,

985
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: the totality of the relationships they are interpersonal relationships.

986
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: I just think it's it's such an insight.

987
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: We have this really cool thing too.

988
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: Like, like I said before, I'm turning fifty two this year,

989
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: and for me, I like some people go through midlife

990
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: crisis and.

991
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: All of that. Yeah, I so don't like.

992
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: I I love the concept of this is the second

993
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: act of my life because if I look at the

994
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: first act, I had a long fucking life.

995
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: I did a lot of it, did a lot. Yeah,

996
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 2: from like.

997
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: Being an infant all through school all through my twenties,

998
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: like finding myself, making mistakes, doing shit. So now I

999
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: get to start this second act from who I am

1000
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: now forward.

1001
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: But how did you get to a place where you

1002
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: could embrace that? Because that's a scary place for a

1003
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: lot of people to be.

1004
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: Which is what leads to the life of what choice do?

1005
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: I ask?

1006
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 4: Sure?

1007
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: But you're looking at it so intentionally and saying my

1008
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 3: intention is to embrace this.

1009
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 4: And be excited about it.

1010
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: Led me to this. It's so great that life has

1011
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: led me to this, Like I took.

1012
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: It took four and a half years for me to

1013
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: confidently walk and talk again.

1014
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: So if I can live through.

1015
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: That, yeah, all the rest of the ship right, it's

1016
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: all they're tiny little things.

1017
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: They're simple on a scale of one to ten, one

1018
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: being never, ten being daily. How often do you think

1019
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: about your mortality?

1020
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: I one, you don't. I don't.

1021
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: What's that like? Sounds amazing? I'm jealous? What is that like?

1022
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: It's you don't have any control over it?

1023
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: Yes, I've I've really realized in life that the only

1024
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: thing I have control over is who I choose to be.

1025
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: Today while living life. Right, life does this?

1026
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna do this for the rest of your life.

1027
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: Who do you want to be during all of it?

1028
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: Do you want to be somebody that like rises when

1029
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: it's during the fucking highs and then hits the really

1030
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: low lows when it's Or do you want to be

1031
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: someone that is, like, I'm going to in a healthy

1032
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: way deal with this if something is really hard or

1033
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm really sad about it. It's fine to be sad, yeah,

1034
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: for sure, but that doesn't mean sad to the point

1035
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: of cutting everybody else out and not listening, like not

1036
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: you know, being conscious in what in the choices that

1037
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: you're making every day and being the best person you can.

1038
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: It's just a choice.

1039
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: Like, it's not you're not either bred better than someone

1040
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: or worse than someone.

1041
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: It's all just a choice.

1042
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: You're either going to choose every single day to wake

1043
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: up and go okay and every situation.

1044
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 2: Who do I want to be in this moment?

1045
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: Do I want to be somebody that like is goes

1046
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: flies off the fucking hook rightly? Or do I want

1047
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: to sit back and take a breath and go okay,

1048
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: Like my nature is to react this way, but that

1049
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: is not the best choice right now, and I do

1050
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: I do it all the time, you know when when

1051
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: people say that your first instinct when someone says something

1052
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: shitty about you is you want to defend yourself. Yes,

1053
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: you want to like say whatever you need to say

1054
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: to clear your name. But is that the best thing

1055
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: to do at times? And if it's not on social media?

1056
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: If not, then don't fucking do it?

1057
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, right right?

1058
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: Because people forget about this this shit that other people say,

1059
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: you leave it alone.

1060
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: It goes away in a day.

1061
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: You know, the world now they they they forget in

1062
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: thirty fucking minutes because a new story is out that

1063
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: takes total, huge precedence over somebody saying you were nasty

1064
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: at something, yeah, you know, or or you cheated them

1065
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: out of ten dollars on a thing like fucking cares?

1066
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, who cares?

1067
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: I mean, that's good advice for everyone. But yeah, but

1068
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 4: that's not easy. It's not easy.

1069
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: Monks live on the top of a fucking hill because

1070
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: they literally can't have people around them.

1071
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: They're like, I need to live all by myself.

1072
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: The only way I can do that, Yeah, and.

1073
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: Scrub floors and do whatever I have to do to

1074
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: like stay focused. So it's not easy, but everybody is like, oh,

1075
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: monks are like these magical people that you know are

1076
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: able to live on It's.

1077
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: Like, no, no, they're not.

1078
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: They just make the choice to do that, to fucking

1079
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: live that way. It's not like in their DNA right right,

1080
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: They're not you know, more special that.

1081
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: They're just making higher level choices. Yeah, that's all.

1082
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 4: So what do you think happens when we die? I

1083
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 4: have no idea and that's okay.

1084
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: It's it has to be like what choice do I have?

1085
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 2: I have no idea and I'm going to die. Yes,

1086
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: it's going to happen.

1087
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: It's absolutely gonna but it's happened before because so I

1088
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: believe in rebirth. I belie leave in okay, you know,

1089
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: living multiple lives and having different experiences and your spirit

1090
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: and your soul kind of learning and growing as it

1091
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: goes until it gets to a lifetime where it's like, okay,

1092
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: I've like I'm done here now I'm going to go

1093
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: when I die, I'm going to go do who fucking knows.

1094
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: That's the premise of Have you seen a movie called

1095
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: Defending Your Life? No, Albert Brooks and Meryl Street. Really

1096
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 3: this is the prime. It's a comedy, but this is

1097
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 3: the premise that that you keep getting sent back to

1098
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: Earth to learn and it's a new life and you've

1099
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: learned that, and then when you're finally done, then you

1100
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 3: move on. And I think that's a concept that is

1101
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: both very comforting, right, but it also kind of makes sense,

1102
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: like it would make.

1103
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: Sense why you meet You meet old souls all the

1104
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: time exactly, and then don't you also meet people that

1105
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: are obviously young literally just cannot fucking get into another

1106
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: They can't like you, you spend two hours talking to

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Speaker 1: him about something and they're like, so I really just

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00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: need to like borrow fifteen hundred bucks, you know, because

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00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, none of that's soaked in at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: Those are the people that it's like, okay, you know,

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00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: the next time, like it's you know, when they fucking

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Speaker 1: call it quits and things go wrong, it's like you'll

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00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: be back in like, you know, thirty days.

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Speaker 4: That's so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: And then you've got the old souls where you go, oh,

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00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: you've been here before, you've been you've been doing this.

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00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Our Sean and I are our baby who's a couple

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Speaker 1: months away from three, which is cool. It's crazy how

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00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: fast it happens. Yeah. He at the point when he

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00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: was born, I was holding him and he was looking

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Speaker 1: around the room like I've been here before.

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Speaker 2: Stop it.

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Speaker 1: You're not not like crying, not like oh my god,

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00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: where am I What's going on? He just had that

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Speaker 1: thing of like.

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Speaker 2: I'm here again.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: He had that look in his eye. And he he

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00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: is incredibly He wants.

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Speaker 1: To do everything on his own. He hates being a baby.

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00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: You can tell, Oh my god, he hates it. Everything

1134
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: is like I can do it, I want to do it.

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00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: And you know, it's like stepstools and climb on the

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00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: things and pour the stuff and do like it's he

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00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: wants to do all of.

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00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: It because he hates it.

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00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: When you do it for him, you can tell he's

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00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in being in being a baby and dependent.

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00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he hates it.

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00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 4: That's fascinating.

1143
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: I wish that I didn't have to keep changing his

1144
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 1: diaper and wiping his ass Like I wish he had more,

1145
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, sival.

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00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish. I wish he was like, oh, let

1147
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: me fix this.

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00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: Also, like body training doesn't seem that hard in the

1149
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. Sit on a fucking fake toilet

1150
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: and figure this ship out because I'm tired of wiping

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00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: your ass.

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00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: But you know, all the rest of it. He wants

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00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 2: to do all of it.

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00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 4: Oh that's great.

1155
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to end with the Lightning Round and these.

1156
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 4: Are fun and fast and okay, let's do it easy. Okay,

1157
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 4: let's go. What is your love language?

1158
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: My love language is acts of service.

1159
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 4: Okay, yep, this is a quiz. What was the fictional name?

1160
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: So fast we've moved on from the Lightning Round. Okay,

1161
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: this is the Lightning round.

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00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 4: Inside the Lightning Round.

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00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: What was the fictional name of the record producer for

1164
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: Icon Records who wanted to produce David's album?

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00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Zach No fantastic surge? Right? Was it

1166
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: really so close to surge? Tankian?

1167
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 4: Oh?

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00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: There you go there, just to move it down.

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00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 4: Do you still talk to Douglas Emerson?

1170
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: I do, yeah, for people you don't know.

1171
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: He played Scott's friend. He was sort of nerdy. You

1172
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 4: kind of moved on.

1173
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: From him and shot himself accentally memorable.

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00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so Doug. Doug joined the Navy after the show.

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00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: He served for years and he he lives at home

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00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: with his wife and his kids.

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00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: And he's a fantastic human being.

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00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 4: I love that. What was your least favorite episode?

1179
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, all of them? Stop. I So I

1180
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: was so that's okay.

1181
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've talked about it a million times. I was

1182
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: so fucking insecure, and I was. I did the show

1183
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: from seventeen to twenty seven, so it was like the

1184
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: most formidable years of my life. And I hated the

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00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: fact that so many people were watching it. So I

1186
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: was just like, I didn't want to look at anybody

1187
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: in the eye because you.

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00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 4: Were in a microscope.

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00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I.

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00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: Was going through the hardest fucking time of your life

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00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: with you know, one hundred and ninety countries watching our show. Yeah,

1193
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: and like sleeping on our pillowcases and shadow.

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00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: I don't want anything to do with any of this.

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00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. What's your favorite movie?

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00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 2: Jaws?

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00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

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00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 4: My husband, who's here?

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00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: You met him?

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00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 4: That's his too?

1201
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: Is it really? Yeah? Yeah?

1202
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 4: Okay. What was your best vacation?

1203
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: Uh, I've been to Australia a few times now, and

1204
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: I think that is spot. I that's my spot, and

1205
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: uh Kona is my spot? Oh yeah, the Fort Jwalai

1206
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:32,959
Speaker 1: and ConA, Oh my God.

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00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: I go there with the kids and it's like, I

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00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: do you.

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00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 4: Like a vista?

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00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: I do? Yeah.

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00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 4: What's your favorite restaurant?

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00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: My favorite restaurant is it's a sushi place, awesin Abo.

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00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: It's on Ventura Bolivar, Okay and Laurel Canyon. It's in

1215
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: this tiny little strip mall and it's the best Japanese food.

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00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 4: Sushi is like I mean, not always.

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00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: But Ventura Boulevard, yeah, crazy enough has some of the

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00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: best sushi in the country.

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00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: So say that, I don't know why. Austin Abo, Okay,

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00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: that's where I'm going.

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00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: It'll it'll literally be one of the best meals you've

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00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: ever eaten. I've sent people there that are like foodies

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00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh my god, that place. They go

1224
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: there all the time.

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00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: Now restaurants are my thing, So okay, I'm gonna go.

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00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: H The last question is the most important to me

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00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: spiritually and culturally.

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00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 4: When is it iced coffee season?

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00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: For me? It's never ice coffee season.

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00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Ever, I like when it's boiling hot outside,

1231
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: I'll still get a hot like chilate that person.

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00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: That guy, Yeah, I mean that that's fine.

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00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: Right, but it's right totally.

1234
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: No, because I'm from Massachusetts. Dunk and Donuts. It's a

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00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 3: part of who I am.

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00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: It's like very in Massachusetts. Aren't you doing hot coffee

1237
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 2: a lot of the time?

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00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 3: Never, it's always iced, it's always ice in freezing temperature.

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01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,479
Speaker 3: Big is wrong with you? Yeah, yeah, it's it's real.

1240
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 3: It's a part of my like where it is with you.

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01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but that's okay, that's okay. We

1242
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: can still be friends.

1243
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:12,959
Speaker 2: We can't still be friends.

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01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 4: I really loved this. Thank you so much.

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01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having I can talk to

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01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: you all night, for reaching out. What you will.

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01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: You're going to come on my show the next time

1248
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: you're in and then we're going to do more of this.

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01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: I would love that.

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01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 4: This was a very soul enriching conversation. It made me

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01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 4: feel good. Thank you, Thanks Brian.

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01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 4: Next week on Off the Cup, Donnie Deutsch.

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Speaker 5: I remember getting in college the first day and meeting

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01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 5: all these kids that you know, had their own BMW's,

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01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 5: and I just remember I couldn't wait to play cards

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01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 5: with them and take their money, you know, and because

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01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 5: they didn't have but the one thing they didn't have,

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01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 5: they didn't have both the street smarts, and they didn't

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 5: have the same hunger I had.

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Speaker 3: For Off the Cup, I am your host Se Cup.

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Speaker 3: Editing and sound design by Derek Clements.

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Speaker 4: Our executive producers are me Se Cup.

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