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Speaker 1: and Out Podcast? How about the goat Thomas Brady game winner,

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Speaker 1: Christmas right around the corner. So let's finish twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: or I guess now it's twenty twenty two. Let's finish strong, baby. Okay,

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Speaker 1: watching that Monday night game, you know, in my job,

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Speaker 1: to develop the take on Thursday night and Monday night football.

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Speaker 1: Throughout the game, you're like, what angle am I going

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Speaker 1: to say? What's going on? Obviously tonight Tom Brady like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the Saints. No one cares about

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Speaker 1: a four and eight team that does not even own

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Speaker 1: their own draft pick. You know, it's the big winner

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Speaker 1: to night, the Philadelphia Eagles. They own the Saints first

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Speaker 1: Brady and you're watching the game. He looks miserable and

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Speaker 1: I'm texting people, just like I'm sure a lot of

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Speaker 1: are the Niners gonna go after him this offseason? Could

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Speaker 1: he go back to New England. I'm watching this guy

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Speaker 1: and I understand those conversations. I'm watching this guy screaming

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Speaker 1: entire career. He's literally doing it every series, and there

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Speaker 1: don't know if Tom shot, but he doesn't quite look

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Speaker 1: like Tom Brady. He's getting pressured, he's hitting the ground.

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Speaker 1: He didn't wants no part of contact. Don't blame him.

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Speaker 1: He's forty five, like I wouldn't want to get it either.

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Speaker 1: His passes, let's face it aren't quite as crisp, not

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Speaker 1: skip some other balls. You're like, we've all been watching

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady now for a couple of decades. This doesn't

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Speaker 1: quite look for Tom Brady. And then he realized most

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Speaker 1: greats don't just go out winning the Super Bowl playing

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Speaker 1: shell of himself. We saw Roethlisberger last year shell of himself.

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Speaker 1: Marino at the end of his career, shell of himself.

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Speaker 1: Remember that far season. That was a debacle. Most guys

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Speaker 1: go out not on a high note. They're struggle. That's

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Speaker 1: part of being a great player. When it ends, it's

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Speaker 1: usually ugly. In the history of sports, that's always what happens.

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Speaker 1: Somehow with pliability avocado avocado ice cream. This dude is

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Speaker 1: circumvented at all. It's been crazy fun to watch. It's

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Speaker 1: this offseason that might make some sense him, go screw it.

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Speaker 1: And then the last five minutes happen and you go,

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Speaker 1: holy shit, you know what? Duke can still play leads

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Speaker 1: the game winning drive. I think it was either Joe Bucker.

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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman said at the end of the game, that's

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Speaker 1: the latest, and he's had a million of him. He's

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Speaker 1: ever thrown a game winning touchdown, and he was just

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Speaker 1: He forces Dennis Allen to call a time out, and

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Speaker 1: Tom's locked and loaded. Once that happened, I went, He's

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Speaker 1: he would tap out and he'd go somewhere else, not

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Speaker 1: there with Tampa Bay. It's moments like that, the smile

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Speaker 1: beat John Harbon, the Ravens to go. Yeah, I bet

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Speaker 1: the fact that he'll come back. Now he's not coming

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Speaker 1: back to Tampa, and let's acknowledge something. Tom Brady bear

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Speaker 1: some responsibility for this season, like Tom Brady the majority

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Speaker 1: of his career, and he's admitted to this. I think

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Speaker 1: he even told Howard Stern when he first did his

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Speaker 1: had no power. And historically, unlike the NBA or even baseball,

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Speaker 1: have no juice as a football player, even if you're

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Speaker 1: Tom freaking Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. Those guys are

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Speaker 1: not telling Brandon Bean and Brett Veach who to sign. Now.

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Speaker 1: They may say something, but they don't actually have the juice.

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Speaker 1: And once he got to Tampa, he had full autonomy

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Speaker 1: like he got Bruce Arians fire, which I get. Like,

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Speaker 1: Now he's forty five years old, he's playing with some

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Speaker 1: And he signed up for this, and he didn't just

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Speaker 1: So this season, which feels destined nine and eight win

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Speaker 1: school with or college with. You're like, you know, I was.

424
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 1: I never really vibed with that dude. I just I

425
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: didn't trust him. I thought he was kind of, you know, shady,

426
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: something sleazy about him. I'd be the last guy I'd

427
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Speaker 1: ever do business with. And then he's just always in trouble,

428
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: or he's always struggling, or he's always bouncing job the job,

429
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: or just he's always off. We all know that guy.

430
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: And then you also know that guy's like, god damn,

431
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: this guy started drinking when he was twelve. Guy was

432
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: selling weed when he was fifteen, which, ironically now used

433
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: to when I was a kid, if you wanted to

434
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: buy some weed, you had to go behind the McDonald's

435
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 1: at about ten o'clock at night in the dark, in

436
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: hand cash. Now it's like they just delivered to your house.

437
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: You give him a credit card. Times have changed, so

438
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: I just trust me. I'm using that as a nineteen

439
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: ninety eight reference. And now that guy's like, oh yeah,

440
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: he's the CEO of a bank. You know he pulls

441
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: I've heard close seven figures. Remember at the nicest country club,

442
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: actually the president of the country club, married with multiple kids,

443
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: very happy life, doing well. It's like, damn, that's pretty impressive. See,

444
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: you never know us guys. I can speak for guys. Obviously,

445
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: women are much maturer than us for the most part,

446
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: at a younger age, they're locked and loaded. They're just

447
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: they're at a higher level. There's no disputing that. For

448
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to the early and mid twenties, not arguable.

449
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: But some guys are really mature. Some guys are very

450
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Speaker 1: focused at like eighteen years old, they know exactly what

451
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna do, locked and loaded. Most of us are not,

452
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: and a lot of us, and I can speak, I

453
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: think the majority of humans mature a lot in their twenties,

454
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 1: and a lot of guys that become impressive that quote unquote,

455
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: like remember when that guy used to coshell, Well, by

456
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: the time he's thirty, he's not doing that. He might

457
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Speaker 1: be married, might be in a serious relationship, might have

458
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: a real job. Whatever. No different with players on the

459
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: Honey Badger got kicked off the team, remember with LSU

460
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: and everyone's like kind of sky can't put down the weed,

461
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: complete clown then he became a team captain of three

462
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: different teams, all one, every single one of them. Became

463
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: the heartbeat of those teams. I remember talking to my

464
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: guys with the Chiefs last year. They let him go

465
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: because his play was diminishing. They loved the human being.

466
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: He went to the Texans for one year team captain.

467
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: I mean, remember when he was on the Cardinals, Bruce Areas,

468
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: those guys swore by him. I think Larry Fitzgerald called

469
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: that guy the heartbeat of the squad. So it's like,

470
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: you never know, and that's a hard part about scouting.

471
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: And clearly Baker Mayfield like there's just a red flag,

472
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: it's just off. But his main problem is not any

473
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: good at football. He's not a good athlete. His arm

474
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: doesn't look as good as it used to. He's not

475
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: very accurate, and he turns them all over all the time.

476
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: Like Jimmy Garoppolo has some knocks, right, He's injured all

477
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: the time. That's the thing with injuries. Sometimes you get

478
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: a guy, you know, this guy toward two acls in

479
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: college and he never gets hurt again. Some guys are

480
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: completely durable, then all of a sudden they're twenty five

481
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: they start getting hurt all the time. Like the one

482
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: thing with Jimmy Garoppolo is I'm pretty sure I don't

483
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: know much about his collegiate injury history, but I'm pretty

484
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: sure he was a pretty durable player the moment he

485
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: started playing in the NFL. When Tom Brady got suspended

486
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: second game of that season, he got injured. Jacoby Brissette

487
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: played the next two games. The second year that he

488
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: became the full time starter for the forty nine ers,

489
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: he tore his ACL in the third game. In twenty twenty.

490
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: He hurt his ankle in twenty twenty one, he had

491
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: a thumb and a shoulder. This year, you know they're

492
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: saying it's a broken foot. I think information will come

493
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: out that it's even worse than that. It's a name

494
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: that you'll go, damn, he gets injured all the time.

495
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: I no read. I don't know why, Like why is

496
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: he more brittle like Patrick Mahomes, who's not the biggest

497
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: guy in the world. I see get Ben over all

498
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff hoss back up and it's a hard part.

499
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: Is That's definitely one thing I do not miss about

500
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Speaker 1: being on the sideline as a scout in the game

501
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: at boxes. Just like a guy goes down laying there,

502
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: You're like, that sucks. He may never get up and

503
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: you don't know. The thing with character, though, you can control.

504
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: And I think a big reason why the Chiefs have

505
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: been so successful. Why I think the Niners are having success.

506
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are built this way. I think

507
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles a lot of high character guys. I'm todd

508
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: just talking like football character, very competitive, good people. The

509
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: majority of the NFL are good people that other people like. Now,

510
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: obviously every individual might not be friends with everybody, but

511
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: for the most part, people go, I like being around

512
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: that guy. His teammates like being around that guy, the

513
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: coaches like being around that guy. And for whatever reason,

514
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield just doesn't have some of that. And then

515
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: you get to a guy Lamar Jackson, who now is

516
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Speaker 1: injured as of recording this. I think he said it's

517
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: week to week er day to day, like John Harbob

518
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: kind of being weird. We'll get to John Hardball here

519
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: in a little bit. Lamar Jackson, who actually had a

520
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 1: lot of questions about him as a player, and rightfully

521
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: so inaccurate. Would it translate the character stuff people love

522
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: the guy come to the NFL. He's only doubled down

523
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: on that. Everyone that's around Lamar Jackson swears by him, teammates, coaches,

524
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: people in the organization, people outside the organization. He's one

525
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: of the most popular players in the league. He's everything

526
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: you want to build a league around. Entertaining player, good guy,

527
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: does all the right things. But I said this offseason,

528
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: I thought he made a mistake, you know, like part

529
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Speaker 1: of as a player. And I can't imagine being in

530
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: your early to mid twenties and having the ability to

531
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: negotiate all these contracts with several zeros on the end,

532
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Speaker 1: whether you're making five million as a player or negotiating

533
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: for forty million dollars a year. That that is very difficult.

534
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: That's hard to do. The older you get and the

535
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: older you get, naturally, hopefully, if things are going well,

536
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 1: you keep negotiating contracts in your business, revenue keeps growing

537
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: and you get experience on how to deal with that.

538
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: I can speak from my experience. Started making once upon

539
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: a time twenty thousand dollars and I remember thinking like,

540
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: should I ask for more? What should I do? I mean,

541
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get out of bed for doing that. For

542
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: like a month now, But like you just learn earn

543
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: how to deal with different sums of money. One point

544
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: in time, one hundred dollars means a lot to you.

545
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: Then by the time you're fifty, hopefully a million dollars

546
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you know, it's just it all depends on

547
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: what you're doing. But you get experience on how to

548
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: deal with that. You do not have the experience as

549
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: a twenty three, twenty five, twenty seven year old football

550
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: player on just like how to negotiate for yourself. So

551
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: when you negotiate these contracts, it helps to have someone

552
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: that knows what they're doing, whether that be a lawyer,

553
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: whether that be an agent. However, like I'm in a

554
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: business where I guess a lot of people have a

555
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: I don't have an agent. Like if I had a question,

556
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: there are a couple of people that deal with contracts.

557
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: I would go to a lawyer a contract negotiator, but

558
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't need an agent, Like I don't give a fuck.

559
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not gonna pay that guy his point.

560
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: So I understand players not wanting an agent. I completely

561
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: get that, but you better have like a high end lawyer,

562
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: even if you're playing a fat flat fee that's cheaper.

563
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: To give you some advice like, hey man, this is

564
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: probably a pretty good deal. You should take it. You

565
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: know this is this is you're being up stated at

566
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: a pretty high level. And I get when emotions get

567
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: involved with contracts. Last year, you see Deshaun Watson that

568
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: ran after every massage therapist and the state of Texas

569
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: get two hundred and thirty million dollars. He saw Kyler Murray,

570
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: who people can't stand. His own building doesn't like him.

571
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: Somehow they gave him one hundred and seventy million dollars guaranteed.

572
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: You're sitting there with Lamar, You're like, I've won an MVP.

573
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: I've had more success than these guys. I'm a good guy.

574
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: I deserve a ton more money than I'm being offered.

575
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: And I understand being in that vacuum. Someone has to

576
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: be sitting next to you and be like, bro, take

577
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: the one seventy five right now. This is life changing money.

578
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: You're not talking the difference between seven million dollars and

579
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: nine million dollars. You're talking one hundred and fifty one

580
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty hundred and seventy million dollars. The other

581
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: thing is you play a style that's very, very risky,

582
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: right like pocket quarterback. The NFL is risky to begin with.

583
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: Whether you're a wide receiver, whether you're a safety, whether

584
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: you're an offensive linement. You can get hurt on any

585
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: given play at any given moment. Right durable players break legs.

586
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: Non durable players have free things where people fall into them.

587
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: From Trent Williams to Michael Parsons to you name it,

588
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: any player on any given snap can have their season ended.

589
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: Anyone that's been watching football long enough has seen it all,

590
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: from Jerry Rice to Tom Brady that we've seen the

591
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: best players in the history league, Steve Young, Michael Irvin

592
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: carried off in stretchers. Now the game's a little different now,

593
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: But you get my point, Lamar the moment and I

594
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: understand fighting for what you're worth because deep down, even

595
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: when you have a contract negotiator or an agent, the

596
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: only person that cares about you to the deepest being

597
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: is yourself because ultimately that agent or that lawyer is

598
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: just getting some points off your deal. Like you truly

599
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: care about your worth, which I respect, But when you

600
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: did not sign the deal that they offered, which again

601
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: is your prerogative. You gave them all the leverage when

602
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: you decided to play, because your leverage would have been like, listen,

603
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm not playing a snap given the style in which

604
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: we play, the style in which our offense is predicated

605
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: off until we come to an agreement, and that would

606
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: have put them against the wall. You actually bailed them

607
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: out when you're like, you know what, we'll figure this

608
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: out after the season. That's a no brainer. Of course,

609
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: the Ravens are basically going to do yeah, yeah, year

610
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: by year, let's do it. And now he's injured. Now

611
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: it might not be a serious injury, but it shows

612
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: the risk of the style in which he plays. His

613
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: leverage was when Levian Bell did it. I thought it

614
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: was moronic and it turned out to be the dumbest

615
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: thing he's ever done. Not take that second franchise tag.

616
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: It costs him fifteen million dollars. The following year he

617
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: gets twenty seven million dollars. Be asked, really, you have

618
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: to subtract the money that he missed, so and then

619
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: he was never the same taken off the year it

620
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: was a debacle. The Ravens were never gonna let him

621
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: sit out the year. Hell I don't think they would

622
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: have let him miss a game. They would up the

623
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: offer by fifteen twenty percent surely, and he would be

624
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: under contract and they wouldn't be worried. He wouldn't be

625
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: worried and be in this position. And now the Ravens

626
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: are just like sums off with that team and sums

627
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: off with their offense. Sums off just that they're not

628
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: even though they're eight and four. There's a difference eight

629
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: and four, right Like you watch the Bengals, that's an

630
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: eight and four that's headed toward twelve or thirteen wins.

631
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: You watch the Ravens, You're like, I could see them

632
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: when now their schedules relatively easy. But it wouldn't shock

633
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: me if they go two and three to end the

634
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: season and all of a sudden they're ten and seven

635
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: and hopefully to get in as the last wild card.

636
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: And I think it started with the way that everything

637
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: was handled. I don't blame the Ravens for playing like that.

638
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: I do blame Lamar for it. Just this was too risky.

639
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm all, I live my life based on risk, but

640
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: there's a level of risk, like if you're sitting at

641
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: the poker table and you've shown up to the blackjack

642
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: table and you brought a thousand dollars and you turn

643
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: that thousand dollars into twenty five hundred. So all of

644
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: a sudden, you look down and you have thirty five

645
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: hundred dollars worth of chips. If you want to start

646
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: placing five six hundred dollars bets a thousand dollars a hand,

647
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: I'd be like, what ever, man, It's like you've trippled

648
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: your money. If you've turned that thousand dollars into seventy

649
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars over the course of a night. And

650
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: anyone that's been to Vegas has seen crazy things happen

651
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: like that, there comes to a point where it's like, yeah, man,

652
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: might be time to step away, like you fifty x

653
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: this bad boy. And that's basically what Lamar did. He

654
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: went from the thirty second pick to a franchise quarterback

655
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: when franchise quarterbacks get one hundred and sixty one hundred

656
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: and seventy million dollars guaranteed guaranteed, and he decided to

657
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: like play it out. And I just even if he's okay,

658
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: which I'm hoping he is, I don't see the risk.

659
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: First to reward there, because I don't think he's gonna

660
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: get that much more money. People keep going like, what

661
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: if he's he's never hit free agency's they're not gonna

662
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: let him walk. That would be the dump. If anything,

663
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: they would franchise tag and trade him. But if someone

664
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: did that, they would get several first round picks back.

665
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: So he's not just like gonna hit the open market.

666
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: That's not the way it works. I just think this

667
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: was very, very avoidable. I wanted to do a little

668
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: something because well, you know, financial times are a little harder,

669
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: but historically, right, bonus season is right now, So at

670
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: your jobs, if you've done well towards the end of

671
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: the fiscal year, you get a big bonus, right, or

672
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: just some sort of bonus if you have done well

673
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: in your job. And we're also seeing I just saw

674
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: on my phone the Wall Street Journal a little app

675
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: came on and said Pepsi co Who I recommend Pepsi.

676
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: Pepsi by my jet, I think that's the name of it.

677
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: Netflix Special is pretty entertaining. I've watched a couple episodes.

678
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Fascinating watch. Even though it's like I'm starting to be

679
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: more pro pepsi as this thing goes. This guy's a

680
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: pretty dead set on getting this jet for basically nothing.

681
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: But that's we can have that conversation at a different time,

682
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: even though you kind of start out rooting for him

683
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: and then it starts getting a little weird. But I

684
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: recommend pretty good little documentary. I love Cindy Crawford growing up,

685
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: by the way, Chez. I mean she was she was

686
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady of models, that's for sure. But a lot

687
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: of guys are getting laid off right now, and I

688
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: don't root for anyone to lose their job, even though

689
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: I've said this over and over and lost my job

690
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Best thing that ever happened to me.

691
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: Typically like, if they don't want you there, you don't

692
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: want to be there, let's go. I want to do

693
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: a little exercise where I'm gonna pick a player or

694
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: a coach and basically say, there's this guy deserve a bonus,

695
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: so he deserve to get laid off, and I'm gonna

696
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: start with you could argue this guy deserves the biggest

697
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: bonus in the league based on what we thought and

698
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: based on what he's produced, and he literally just threw

699
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: a game winning touchdown yesterday. Now it was against the Rams,

700
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: but I would say Gino Smith based on the perception

701
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: of Gino Smith, based on the perception of that team.

702
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: He's twenty two and six this year, and it's one

703
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: thing like you can box score, scout whatever. Watch the

704
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: guy play. He is. He throws a beautiful ball. He's

705
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: very in control. Speaking of that quarterback stuff earlier, you

706
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: watch Gino talk, you watch him conduct himself like he's

707
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: a very very impressive guy. And hearing players over the

708
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: years talk about him, he's very well liked. And his

709
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: physical attributes, like he throws a beautiful ball, he's got

710
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: a strong arm, and you get those two wide receivers

711
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: DK and Tyler Lockett kicking ass. Kenneth Walker got hurt yesterday,

712
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: but Gino Smith has been If you talked about a

713
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: guy that just deserves a massive bonus, if this was

714
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: corporate America, it'd be Gino Smith. And if you talk

715
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: about a guy that deserves getting laid off, I mean,

716
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: this guy is officially an embarrassment. Brandon Staley. They're now

717
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: six and six the Raiders. Josh McDaniel runs the flee flicker,

718
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: which any kid that plays video games young It's one

719
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: of the coolest plays going right. Josh McDaniels runs it

720
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: every single week like it's like one of their go

721
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: to plays once a week, and yesterday they hit it

722
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: like the car to DeVante flee flicker is as easy

723
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: of a flee flicker as you're ever gonna see. DeVante's

724
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: in man coverage. He's like six seven yards ahead of

725
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: the corner, walks into the end zone, then he high

726
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: fives everybody. Brandon Staley is a defensive coach, yet his

727
00:35:54,239 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: defense blows, absolutely blows. And then again, it's sure feels

728
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: like the Chargers are trending to miss the playoffs. Now

729
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: it's they still have a chance. They still you know,

730
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: they play Miami this week, Sunday Night Football, Big game.

731
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: I just I've been beating this drum from the beginning.

732
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: I never saw it. I thought he had fraudulent characteristics,

733
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: the way he talked. I thought he was too much

734
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: of a politician. And then I just watched his teams.

735
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: He's a defensive coordinator calling defensive plays, and his defense

736
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: is stink. The only reason the Chargers, they were what

737
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: nine and eight last year, they're six and six this year,

738
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: So they're basically a five hundred team and a year

739
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: and a half sin he's been ahead of coach even

740
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: compete is the quarterback and he has nothing to do

741
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert, absolutely nothing. So to me, if we

742
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: were at Facebook or met as they call it, bad

743
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: to Staey be my first call into the HR. And

744
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: speaking of and I've been hard on this team, but

745
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: if you watched the highlights yesterday from DeVante Adams when

746
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: he did the Chargers, DeVante Adams makes a ton of

747
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: money and he got traded for a first round pick.

748
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: He's been one of the best wide receivers in the

749
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: league for the last four or five years. But it's easy,

750
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: Like I unders, I've been impressed with Tyreek Hill, but

751
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: his team's been winning. It's been fun, and he's been

752
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: kicking ass and he's clearly their best player. But they're

753
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: winning every week until last week, but they're they're eight

754
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: in four like they're having a fantastic season, and Tyree's

755
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: getting a ton of credit. It's easy to be into

756
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: it when things are going well. The Raiders have been.

757
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: They were two and seven. If you're two and seven

758
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL, your season feels beyond over. Yeah, DeVante

759
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: Adams every single week plays like he's still on the

760
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: Packers and they're playing for Super Bowl. They're playing for

761
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: the number one seed. And yesterday at four and seven

762
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: against the Chargers, he approached that like they were seven

763
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: and four and that division game is the difference of

764
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: making the playoffs and not. He ends the games like

765
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: eight catches, one hundred and seventy seven yards and multiple touchdowns. Statistically,

766
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams like to me, DeVante Adams and Tyreek Hill

767
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: are locke all pros, like from an eye test standpoint,

768
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: from atiscal standpoint, kicking the shit out of every dB

769
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: they play, and DeVante Adams makes a ton of money,

770
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: the same with Tyreek that those guys have been worth

771
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: everything in more bonus territory for me for sure, Layoff

772
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: speaking of the Lamar Jackson situation, like something's off of

773
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens and I just you know, I wouldn't wish

774
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: upon my worst enemy to watch that ten to nine

775
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: win against the against the Broncos. Like we all agree,

776
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett is getting fired like it's over. He's a

777
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: dead man walking. Their pick is going to Seattle, which

778
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: right now is scheduled to be the fourth pick in

779
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: the draft, and everyone just openly talks he's one and done.

780
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: It's over. He'll never be a head coach again. But

781
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: like John Harbop, I picked them to go like thirteen

782
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: or fourteen wins. I thought they were going to be

783
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: a powerhouse team. And even before Lamar got banged up,

784
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: you watch him, you go, what is missing here? Well?

785
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: Why why are you struggling to win games on a

786
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: weekly basis? You just lost to the Jacks, who the

787
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Lions beat the living crap out of How does this happen?

788
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: What is wrong your team? And I still think the

789
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: Ravens are going to make the playoffs. They should, their

790
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: schedule plays out that way. They play the Steelers this week,

791
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: who are actually trending in a pretty positive direction. But

792
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: I just wonder, like, is something off? Are we missing something? Now?

793
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't think John Harbaugh will get fired, but it's

794
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. That's that One's really

795
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: weird and just the biggest WTF game A lot of

796
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: people wanted to give to a major flowers, give him

797
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: a big bonus, give him the potential MVP. Statistically, he

798
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: had a solid season and they the last several weeks

799
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: had beat up on some terrible teams, right the Texans,

800
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: the Browns. I watched them against the forty nine Ers,

801
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: who statistically are the best defense in the league. And

802
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: he got worked and he was awful. He was all

803
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: over the map. He was struggling to hit water if

804
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: he was in the boat in the middle of the ocean. Now,

805
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: he did hit a couple of plays late, but for

806
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: the most part two eighteen to thirty three, he was

807
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: way worse than those numbers. He was atrocious. And I

808
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: do think something to keep an eye on this week.

809
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: They're playing a bad defense in the Chargers. He still

810
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: plays the Bills, still plays the Patriots, who are a

811
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: good defense, still plays the Jets. There's a lot of

812
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: pressure now on this team right there, right on the

813
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: cuss of making the playoffs. I said the other day,

814
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember the Dolphins making the playoffs since Tony Sprauno.

815
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: They made it in twenty sixteen. Adam Gays, sorry forgot.

816
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: That was the game against the Steelers. I actually remember

817
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: now because they put money on them. They did not cover.

818
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: They got destroyed in that game. Jarvis Landry's on that team.

819
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: I think they had a was JGI on that team

820
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: they had, They had some players, but it did not

821
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: go well for me as a gambler. But two like

822
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: I would be a little nervous as we get in

823
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: the nut cutting time of the season and you start

824
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: playing in these outdoor games San Francisco, they play in

825
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: Santa Clara. I mean as cold as against there is

826
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: like fifty five degrees, And it definitely was not fifty

827
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: five degrees. That was not Buffalo, that was not Kansas City,

828
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: that was not New England in December. That that was

829
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: borderline Miami in December. So if you're not going to

830
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: excel in that game from an accuracy standpoint, I don't

831
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 1: feel great about you moving forward. Do you know showed

832
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: up Tyreek, showed up, Jalen Phillips, showed up that Bradley

833
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: Chupp was good in that game. Their defense was actually

834
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: pretty good in that game. Toa was atrocious. I haven't

835
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: looked throughout the league. I'm sure the Texans quarterback play

836
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: was the worst yesterday that they had to be right

837
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: up there as the worst quarterback play in the league.

838
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: And to admitted it, and he was limping after the game,

839
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: he was getting peppered. But you're gonna get hit like

840
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: moving forward, it's cold, your offensive lines banged up, you're

841
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: missing your tackles. Austin Jackson's that on injured reserve you

842
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: just had to sign. I think Eric Fisher today like

843
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: you got some problems and I don't know, man, I

844
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't say I wouldn't pick Miami to miss the playoffs,

845
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: but if you tell me Miami misses the playoffs, I

846
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: do think it's believable at this point. Okay, it's that

847
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: time of the week again, Little Middlecoff mail bag at

848
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms? Very

849
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: easy to do. Again, it's just my name at John Middlecoff,

850
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: fire in those dms. Get your question answered here on

851
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: the show. Okay, let's start with Paul. I was never

852
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: as high on Russell Wilson as Colin from early on,

853
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: but I'd agree that based on Russell's time in Seattle,

854
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: he probably earned himself a spot in Kenton. However, if

855
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: he continues to be historically bad for the rest of

856
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: his contract in Denver, do you think there's a chance

857
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: he could play his way out of the Hall of Fame?

858
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: Is there any precedent for that? Anyone who's established Hall

859
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: of Fame credentials but then bombed and taking themselves out

860
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: of likely election. I'm not talking about on the field performance,

861
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: not Barry Bonds or Pete Rose type guys from Flagstaff, Arizona. Paul,

862
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you on Instagram. I'd have to think

863
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: that'd be probably a good question for Belichick. What I

864
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: think is rare is he's young, right, so a lot

865
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: of times, like it was ugly for Roethlisberger at the end,

866
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: but like, no one's really going to remember that, right,

867
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: it was that that last year for Peyton Manning, even

868
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: though they ironically won the Super Bowl. He was terrible,

869
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: But who cares? Like it just ended after that year?

870
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: Like what if Russell plays five years and looks like

871
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: this now in a couple of years, even regardless of

872
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: what they're paying him, they would cut him or they

873
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: would bench him. But like, that's not good. He's not

874
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna go away. He's not thirty eight years old like

875
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: in theory thirty three, thirty four, thirty five, thirty six.

876
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: He's got some years. So a lot of times with players,

877
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: once they fall off a cliff, they go away. I

878
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: just don't think Russell's gonna go away. And if it

879
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: stays bad, which feels crazy, like he's really just gonna

880
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: suck this bad. I don't know what you'd say, like, yeah,

881
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: I'll just get it back. Like who's gonna coach them

882
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: next year? He's to be a one and done coach.

883
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: Who's going to accept that job? Sean Payton's not some

884
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: young coach like a eber fluce or like a you know,

885
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, because you just you don't turn down NFL jobs.

886
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: But what if they can't fix him? What if he

887
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: just what if he's not fixed a bowl? I'd be nervous.

888
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: So yes, I would say play him, stut out of

889
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I just think what you do recently,

890
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: when you do it for a long time, is what

891
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: you remember. Like Odale has been weird now for a while,

892
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: and what do we think we think he's got a

893
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: weird right, It's like part of you know, when you

894
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: kick ass, even Tom Brady, like if it's just over

895
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: after this year, Like who cares if tom Brady was

896
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: bad for like five or six years. Yeah, William May's

897
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: played for the Mets for one season, right, so if

898
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: he does this for four or five years. I don't

899
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: think it's out of the realm possibility. Ghost Stangs, your

900
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: content brother, big fan, keep crushing. I appreciate it. I

901
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: think he means the cal Poly Mustangs be the home

902
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: of John Madden. No big deal. Just donated about thirty

903
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: million keeping our program rolling the coach at cal Poly

904
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: Bo Baldwin was the head coach. Just quit to go

905
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: be the offensive coordinator is the Arizona State. It's crazy

906
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: how much more money you can make as a coordinator

907
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: now in Power five immediately pays a million dollars. I

908
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: would guess cal Poly was paying them four hundred grand,

909
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: five hundred grand. You double your money, and it's cheaper

910
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: to live here in Scottsdale or Tempe than it is

911
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: in San Louis Bispe. So can we fire Brandon Staley

912
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: of the Chargers? Now? Let me know, I listen. I'm

913
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: not trying to toot my own horn. I've been wrong before,

914
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: but we gotta give. I'm gonna take a little bit

915
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: of a victory lap. I said it early on. I

916
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: said something was off, and I can judge. I can't

917
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: judge success or failure off of Prescott conce like everyone's

918
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: press conferences are different, right, Belichick says nothing, Pete Carroll smiles,

919
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: Kyle and Sean mcvayh are candid. Like every guy, Sean

920
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: Payton can own the room. Your press conference is not

921
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: determined whether you're gonna win a Super Bowl or make

922
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I've lived in California long enough to

923
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: sniff out a phony, and I just watching that and

924
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: it was like, what is up with this dude? And

925
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: I remember texting someone that had worked with him, going, yeah,

926
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan and that I don't think

927
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: he doesn't know football, but being the head coach, but yeah,

928
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: he had a lot of success for one season as

929
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator when Sean McVeigh was in charge. Right,

930
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: he just got to just deal with the defense, deal

931
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: with the scheme. He didn't have to worry about cutting

932
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: a guy or demoting a guy like that's Sean's choice.

933
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: He just coached thirty five, not even twenty eight guys

934
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: and did a pretty good job. They also had Aaron

935
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: Donald and Jalen Ramsey and their primes. He's a terrible

936
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: head coach and his defense is atrocious, and he's just

937
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: so fake. Maybe sometimes I think fake people are they

938
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: actually just that's who they actually are, and they're just

939
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: pretending to be something they're not. Excuse me, not pretending,

940
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: that's just they're actually just this phony or do they

941
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: say that and then when the cameras go off and

942
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: they're behind the scenes. When I think of a phony,

943
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: I think the moment the cameras go off, the moment

944
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: the lights go off and they're talking to their wife,

945
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: they're talking to their best friend. They talk completely different,

946
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: Like I talk the same everywhere I go. Most people

947
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: I know are pretty consistent. Those are type people that

948
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: I like. Those are type people that resonate with me.

949
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: When I think you're just saying one thing and doing another,

950
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: I despise those people. Regarding Fresno State, don't you think

951
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: Tedford would be a great fit for dj Unglela dj

952
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: is apparently in the transfer portal, and it seems like

953
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: Tedford would be able to maximize his potential considering what

954
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: he's done with quarterbacks in the past, including Aaron Rodd

955
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: and most recently Jake Hanner. Well, yeah, I mean I

956
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: think Jeff Tedford would take Djungle in a heartbeat. I

957
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing dj going from Clemson to

958
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: Frozen State. Mario Christa Ball came up second at Oregon

959
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: recruiting him. Clearly Oregon has issues now he's played him.

960
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: You know, DJ is not what he we thought he

961
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: would be. But does that make some sense at Miami?

962
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: I think think about DJ, who had a better starting

963
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: career than Spencer Rattler. Spencer Rattler got an SEC job.

964
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: Now you could say that Beemer was with him at Oklahoma,

965
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: took him to up South Carolina. You know, could Virginia

966
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: take him, could Oklahoma take him? I just think that

967
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if he goes to a Nonpower five team.

968
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: I'd honestly be shocked if he doesn't go to like

969
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: a top probably you know, thirty school. And when I

970
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: say that, I mean like some of the better SEC

971
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: school some of the better Big twelve schools. He's also

972
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: going to get paid. I mean that's part of this

973
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: transfer portal. Everyone enters the transfer portal, they're basically just

974
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: seeing who will pay them. And I had a buddy

975
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: who's a GM of a college team, and basically every

976
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: time a starter enters the transfer portal, their recruiting service,

977
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, like their team rights the guy up, so

978
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: you evaluate the guy like you would as a scout

979
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And uh, you know all these quarterbacks

980
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: going like not everyone's gonna have a seat at the table.

981
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: There are only so many. There are only so many

982
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: guys that can spe a starting quarterback. Love the show.

983
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: Discovered you through Colin and have been listening for a

984
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: few months. I think it's a little disrespectful to call

985
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: Austin Austin Eckler just a scat back. He leads the

986
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: league in touchdowns over the past two years and is

987
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: a top ten back. I think that's fair if I

988
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: did call him a scatback. I'm a Austin Ekeler fan.

989
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: When I say, like, let's let's talk about the top

990
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: four or five running backs, right Nick, U say, Kwan Barkley,

991
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: what Josh Jacobs is doing? Like, these guys are true

992
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: between the tackles, you can ride the guy. To me,

993
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler, he's a great receiving back. He's fantastic. I

994
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: would say just screen backs, he would be you know

995
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: who would love him? Andy Reid. Now he's a really

996
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: good he's a winning player. Is he a true Are

997
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: you making the playoffs? Riding him. I don't know, you know,

998
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: I hear he scores a lot of touchdowns, but Justin

999
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: Herbert throws him the ball out? How many of those touchdowns?

1000
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm speaking out of turn here, but might as

1001
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: well bring up his stats. How many of those are

1002
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns? Is it all rushing touchdowns? Because and he's

1003
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: a fantastic story, right, undrafted free agent he went to

1004
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: Western Colorado like I'm a fan, Like I'm not some hater.

1005
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: So Austin Eckler has twenty eight receiving touchdowns? Has he

1006
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: had eight nineteen, two and twenty, So that's ten. He

1007
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: has twenty four touchdowns the last four years in the

1008
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: past game and in the run he has he has

1009
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: more career receiving touchdowns than he does rushing touchdowns. So

1010
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna take I told you so

1011
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: on that one, but I think it's fair. And the

1012
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: last how many, you know, sixty catches last year, seventy

1013
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: catches this, uh, twenty one, He's gonna get over seventy

1014
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: catches this year. So he's gonna have in the last

1015
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: two seasons one hundred and sixty catches. He's never run

1016
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: for over a thousand yards. So I no, I feel

1017
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: pretty good about where I stand. The eye test matches

1018
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: the statistics again, really good player, but is he a

1019
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: true every down back. I don't know if that's what

1020
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: he's most equipped to do. Sorry for the long question.

1021
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: Feel free to chop it up for the pot if

1022
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: you want. The Pats Bills Thursday night made it very

1023
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: odd vis what everyone including you, was saying before the season,

1024
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: Patrician judge to run the offense is a colossal mistake.

1025
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: It's actually impressive they won as many games being so

1026
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: a Nie mcgon offense. Well, I mean, like last year.

1027
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: They're built on running the football and definitely playing defense

1028
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: and special teams. So and they have the greatest coach

1029
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: of all time. You know, they're six and six. I

1030
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: just think Bill's floor is so high. But I hear

1031
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Let me finish this question. Now, they're

1032
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: wasting time on a first round rookie quarterback deal and

1033
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: potentially ruining his development. If you plug Mac Jones and

1034
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers offense, you could probably win a

1035
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: playoff game. But we aren't going to know for sure

1036
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: because he's having to take intentional grounding penalties at his

1037
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: own one yard line to avoid taking a safety. If

1038
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: you were Robert Kraft, you read Bill the Riot Act,

1039
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: what the hell do you do? You know? I don't know.

1040
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: It's a tough one. Like, is Robert Kraft's really telling

1041
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick what to do football wise? I just I

1042
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: doubt it at this point in time. Now. The other

1043
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: thing is like, like Roberts getting old? How many more

1044
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: Sea Roberts has already won six Super Bowls? You know,

1045
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: Roberts Roberts football life the last two decades has been

1046
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. Now there is some buzz about Tom Brady returning.

1047
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: Listen to Bill Simmons podcast last week they talked about it.

1048
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: It was kind of on the internet streets. Not inconceivable.

1049
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm recording this before the Monday night game. But regardless,

1050
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: like Tampa was a one and done playoff team, assuming

1051
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: they make the playoffs, I could see that Tom Tom

1052
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: going home. I have a question for the mail bag

1053
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Speaker 1: about Kingsbury. A few us back, he was on Flying

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00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: Coach with Shrager and McVeigh. On the podcast, Kingsbury said

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00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: that before a game against the Rams, he was scrambling

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00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: to find a ticket for a model friend of his

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00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: he was taking to the game. This for me is

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00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: instantly was a red flag. But it's something that is

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00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: absolutely normal for a coach to do. But it's something

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00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: like this absolutely normal for a coach to do. Well. Yeah,

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00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: I think a lot of coaches might on game day

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00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: be scrambling for a cousin, you know, maybe their dad

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00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: decides to come to a game, a college roommate, a

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00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 1: high school friend. I don't think it's abnormal to try

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00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: to find a ticket through either the other team or

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Speaker 1: your own team for someone in your life. I would

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Speaker 1: say that is not abnormal. What makes it abnormal for

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury is the women he's bringing to the game, for

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00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: the most part, are better looking than anyone else in

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Speaker 1: the league at coach beside, like McVeigh, part of it,

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00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: he's single, he's good looking. I'm not saying the coaches,

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00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: like players don't have you know, good looking wives or

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00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: girlfriends on the side, but I think it's more polarizing.

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00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: I stumbled upon Kingsbury's girlfriend on Instagram. She's pretty good

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00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: looking and she does some model Instagram influencing. It's clearly

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00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: his house, and my first reaction was like, is this

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00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: a good look? And It's like, why, because I'm judging

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00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: him because he's got some twenty eight year old bombshell

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00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: that he's dating. Like most coaches in the NFL, if

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00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: they could probably would love to take this girl out,

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00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: they just couldn't. The single ones couldn't get a date

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Speaker 1: with this girl. So is it that abnormal? She's an

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00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: Instagram influencer. That's the industry, you know. Would it be

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00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 1: that much different if she was a real estate agent,

1085
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: Like she's just taking Instagram influencing picks in tight clothing

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00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: at his house. Ideally, if you were an owner or

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00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: you were a GM, would you like your coach to

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00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: just be stable and married. But if Cliff Kingsberry was married,

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00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: he'd have some smoke show wife and she might be

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00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: an Instagram influencer. So I think we judge him a

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00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: little more harshly because the girls he's with don't look

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00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: like other girls that coaches are dating. Even though I

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00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: met at Ogeron at the Super Bowl party and he

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00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: was dating a smoke show so it doesn't bother me

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00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: at all. I judged Cliff Kingsberry because I don't think

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00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: he's a super buttoned up coach, and I think his

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00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: offense is pretty soft, and I think he believed in

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00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, which I don't know how he did. Do

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Speaker 1: you think the forty nine Ers were target Baker or

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Speaker 1: any other free agent quarterback with the loss of Jimmy

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00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: g Or they'll stick it out with Party. I would

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Speaker 1: expect them to stick it out with Party. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they will claim Baker Mayfield. I only

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00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: come in the mail bag when the Raiders win, but

1105
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: thoughts on them getting back to five hundred heading into

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00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers game and setting up a massive game against

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00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: your Niners. Are the Boys alive or just dead? Beating

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00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: up on shitty teams? Like I said earlier, DeVante is

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00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: playing as well as any player in the league. I

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00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: thought Derek was really good against the Chargers. Josh Jacobs

1111
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: has been phenomenal. They feel like they got some mojo. Now.

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Speaker 1: They play Thursday night game against the Rams. All of

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00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're six and seven. Then you get a

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: long week for the Patriots. It's not inconceivable. You get

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Speaker 1: to seven and seven, then I think you play the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, maybe you don't. You play someone else after

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00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots, then you get the Niners. I think you

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00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: could get to seven and seven. If you get to

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00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: seven and seven after being two and seven, that's impressive.

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Speaker 1: You definitely have high end talent, star running back, star

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00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver, really good quarterback, star pass rusher. So I

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Speaker 1: would be bullish. Gotta beat the Rams, Gotta beat the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Interesting take on coach Prime to see you. I wonder

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Speaker 1: how much having his son play quarterback there affected his

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Speaker 1: decision to come as a SEU grad. I'm excited. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think I've never watched Jackson State play.

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00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: I said it the other night, just like no one has.

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Speaker 1: You haven't, I haven't, none of us have. So how

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Speaker 1: good he is as an endgame coach, or how good

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00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: his son is as a player, I have no clue.

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00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: We're about to find out. Like you play Washington, you

1132
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: play Oregon, you play Utah, you play usc Like these

1133
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: are real top twenty teams with NFL guys everywhere. Is

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00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: Dean Sanders gonna make it? When I say make it,

1135
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: like win nine games one day at Colorado, I got

1136
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: no clue. I would probably bet against it because of

1137
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: the uphill battle, but also the transfer portal. Maybe I

1138
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: would be ignorant and naive. He might just have so

1139
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: much talent it might not matter. But here's what I know.

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00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fascinated to watch. And here's the thing

1141
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: about Boulder. It's basically like a colder version of Berkeley.

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00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: It's a very hippie PC town. You know what Dean

1143
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: Sanders Isn't that? Dean Sanders is gonna make a lot

1144
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: of people uncomfortable, and I'm here for that. I can't

1145
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: wait to watch him have just kind of people on

1146
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: the edge of their fucking seats. And Deon Sanders is

1147
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: gonna bring an edge there. He's gonna make everyone uncomfortable.

1148
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: The way he does things. He doesn't give a shit

1149
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: about offending everyone, whether it be players, people around town.

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00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I am this is gonna be one

1151
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: of the more fascinating hires of my life. But I

1152
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: can't like pretend to tell you I think he's He's

1153
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: not a coordinator. You know, he's a motivation guy and

1154
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: a recruiter. Well that can work. To me, his coordinators

1155
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: are gonna matter. He hired a defensive coordinator from Alabama

1156
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: whose offensive coordinator is gonna matter? And how good his

1157
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: son is. I can't I'm about to find out they

1158
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: open up with Nebraska, and then I think they play

1159
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: like Minnesota. Obviously they play a tough and the patrielve

1160
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: is pretty good this year. Hell like Washington State's pretty good.

1161
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: You know, Arizona, you know, was making strides. Arizona State

1162
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 1: should be much better with the real coaching staff. Okay,

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00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: last question, Hey, dude, Kansas City fan in semi rough

1164
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: state of mind, Kansas City Casey can beat Cincinnati, right,

1165
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: They've had an opportunity to win all three games and

1166
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: continue to make crucial mistakes. Is Cincinnati just our kryptonite

1167
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: or they actually doing something to cause our mistakes? Well,

1168
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: I think the Travis Kelsey play is somewhat freakish, Right,

1169
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: anytime a fumble like that happens when you're trying to

1170
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: push a pile like, I give you somewhat of the

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00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: benefit of the the doubt. Now you're not gonna be You

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00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: haven't really covered Jamar Chase. The good thing is no

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00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: one really does you just you know, I would say

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00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: you would take your chances. You're gonna have to outscore them,

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00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: that's one thing, right, I mean, you lost the game

1176
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: twenty seven twenty four. I think the Chiefs go into

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00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 1: most games think they had to thirty points. Good thirty points,

1178
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: you win the game. They had their opportunities, they didn't

1179
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. Now I think Cincinnati could. I

1180
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: say the same thing. I looked over one time at

1181
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: the TV and all of a sudden, the ball bounces

1182
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: off Boyd's face mask. You could do what have walked

1183
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: right in the end zone. Joe Burrow's like, oh my, howdy,

1184
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: what are we doing? So I just think Cincinnati's good.

1185
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: I said this on Saturday Sunday night. I don't know

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01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: if Burrow's quite Mahomes, but the gap there is not

1187
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: very big. He is him Alan Mahomes. And when he

1188
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: play those guys, like when Alway plays Marino or Montana

1189
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: or Brady plays Manning, you know it's like anything can happen.

1190
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: Rogers like the other like the other guy is good enough.

1191
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: If he has his best game, you might lose. Great

1192
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: offense historically beats good defense with an all time great

1193
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: quarterback if his team's really good. And one thing Joe

1194
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: Burrow has is like really good wide receivers. And we've

1195
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: seen him at LSU and now in the pros, like

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01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 1: when he's on his team is tough to beat. Why

1197
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: because he is gonna be right there with Mahomes. You

1198
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: would say every game Mahomes is in his prime now

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01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: the last several years, even the best player on the field,

1200
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: there's only been a small handful of guys and Aaron

1201
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: Rodgers who the one year they missed because Rogers was

1202
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: missing because of the bid, Josh Allen and probably Borrow.

1203
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: That could just be like I can be every bit

1204
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 1: of your equal and when that's the case, like that,

1205
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: that is just what Cincinnati has. The other thing is

1206
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: they're cold weather team too. They play in a cold

1207
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: weather division. One of your big advantages, Like it's loud,

1208
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: it's cold, well, they play at Pittsburgh, they play at Baltimore,

1209
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: like they you know, Cleveland has been good. Like these

1210
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: guys have been used to just go into some tough

1211
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: environments so they can come into Kansas City and not

1212
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: be blown away. And they have like Ohio people love

1213
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,479
Speaker 1: football and their home field advantage like that plays loud,

1214
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: it's old, it's shitty, old stadium, but like people in

1215
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: Ohio love football, and I just think that you watch

1216
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: it's a tough place to play, and their team is good,

1217
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: they're well coached not necessarily Zach Taylor, but it doesn't

1218
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: necessarily matter because their offense is so good. Defensively, they're

1219
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: just physical team. I still like you in a playoff game.

1220
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: But I think here's the one thing we have to

1221
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: come to a realization with Kansas City. There are two

1222
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: teams that I think they're players have to acknowledge. Right

1223
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: they play the Ravens, they play whoever they're gonna go,

1224
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat this team, and that's their mindset. When

1225
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: they play the Bills and they play Cincinnati, getting ready

1226
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: that week for a playoff game, they have to acknowledge,

1227
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: if we don't play good football, we will lose, we

1228
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: will lose the game. And I think that's healthy, that's good,

1229
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, And I think now they have that there

1230
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: is no excuse a playoff game, like if you play

1231
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: your best and get beat like sometimes the other teams

1232
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: is better, but there's no like laying an egg or

1233
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: not being ready. Not that Andy's team, for the most part,

1234
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: are always ready, but like his team now knows, we

1235
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: gotta fucking lock in against these guys because if we don't,

1236
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: they will beat us. They beat us three times in

1237
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: a row and all the games looked a little different.

1238
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: That game yesterday was. I really really enjoyed it. Appreciate

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01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: everyone listening. Share it with your friends, subscribe to the podcast,

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01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,520
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