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Speaker 2: It's a good year to have few questions, which is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And what you like about the pit situation in

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Speaker 1: at this point. Honestly, they've recruited well enough and they've

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Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at with Pitt. I feel good

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Speaker 2: I have one definitive final question about Pitt. Yeah, in

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it's in Kalamazoo in Waldo. You never know what's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, Hornet's nest.

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Speaker 1: We'll see, all right, Where do you want me to

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Speaker 1: No, I Miami's my pick to win the Coastal. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But the hire of crystal Ball, in my view, was

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Speaker 1: It was unorthodox as hell how they got him, and

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Speaker 1: What is Mario's specialty?

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Speaker 1: And I think that is exactly what Miami needs here. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: a week before a home game against Pitt like it's

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Speaker 1: it's sort of backloaded in many respects, But I do

432
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about where the Keynes are at. I

433
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: like them more than I expected, and they're might pick

434
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Speaker 1: to win the Coastal.

435
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 2: All right, here's my counterpoint. Yeah, And my counterpoint is,

436
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty smart to invest in Miami and

437
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: the medium and long term. This coaching staff recognized that

438
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: they didn't have the talent to be crazy successful upfront

439
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: on defense and hit the portal hard there, which worries me. Right,

440
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: if that is a place where you mentioned Kevin Steele

441
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: as being a quality higher, I agree, But what Kevin

442
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: Steele has had at previous stops, most recently that the

443
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: highest profile stop he had at Auburn were NFL defensive

444
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: linemen and linebackers all over the place. I think from

445
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: a talent perspective, Miami's probably strongest in the back end

446
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: on that defense and on offense. You talk about Mario

447
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: Christo Ball's record in terms of recruiting and developing offensive

448
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: lineman Alex Meerbal, those guys, he inherited a really really

449
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: good set when he took that job at Oregon, inherited

450
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 2: a great quarterback or what we thought was going to

451
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: be a great quarterback in Justin Herbert and questions about

452
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Speaker 2: who he's throwing to. He didn't work out all that well.

453
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 2: Josh gaddis better than Marcus Arroyo, who was his first

454
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: pick there. The Josh Gaddis thing is interesting to me

455
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: because he wins the Broils Award last year at Michigan, right,

456
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: and I think part of his job was wrangling that

457
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: sort of guerrilla ball mentality with Jim Harbaugh, and he's

458
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 2: trying to do the same with Mario Christobal, who I

459
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: think like resting control, wrestling control away from his offensive

460
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: coordinators at Oregon to play that brand. And so what

461
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: is that cooks in the kitchen element or chemistry look

462
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: like between Gaddis and Crystaball. I think it's going to

463
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: start out really well, But if things go awry and

464
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 2: Crystaball wants more of his own fingerprints on this offense,

465
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a great thing for TVD. They

466
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 2: don't have the offensive line to me, to play that

467
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: kind of bruising mentality like they were able to with

468
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: that kind of bruising mentality that they were able to

469
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 2: do at Oregon for long stretches That's the problem to

470
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: me is I think there's a sound strategy in marrying

471
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: some of Josh Gaddis's concepts and the spread looks and

472
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: RPO and the gorilla ball instincts of Crystal Ball. I

473
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: don't think they have the personnel to do it in

474
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: year one. I think TVD absolutely has the talent to

475
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Speaker 2: do it. I just I'm worried about the architecture and

476
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: the motivations behind this offense in year one with the

477
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: available talent, So I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll be pretty good.

478
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: I think the defense is going to take a minute.

479
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: I just I think there are a lot of big

480
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: personalities behind the scenes, and I think there are going

481
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: to be really fun highs and some frustrating it.

482
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Speaker 1: It was unorthodox to get us to this point. It

483
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: was unorthodized, not follow We didn't know who who was

484
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: making the higher Remember when we talked about this, We're like,

485
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: who is interviewing with? Nobody knew it was. It was

486
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: an entirely just strange situation that brought Crystal Ball back

487
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: to Miami. So I think it's fair to point that out.

488
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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the coastal like it's either them

489
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Speaker 1: or Pitt. It's not any of these other teams that

490
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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk through. It's not. It's just not.

491
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: There's no chance. So I'm going Miami. If I'm putting,

492
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm banking on any of the horses

493
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: in this race, it's Miami to win the Coastal. Yeah.

494
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: I really need to see a dramatic improvement from this

495
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: offensive line, which you know, that's you know, it's the

496
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: storyline for so many of these teams that they've been

497
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: waiting so long for offensive line improvement and just to

498
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: be solid. Yeah, and I still think Miami's probably a

499
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Speaker 2: year away.

500
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see it. I could see it, But

501
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: you do since that momentum, right, I mean, the momentum

502
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: is tanked totally, and I think that's a good place

503
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: to be if you're starting over. So where do you

504
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: want to go next?

505
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Speaker 2: I'll go to the other team that is at least

506
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: a little bit spicy to me in North Carolina, that

507
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: has been in the mix with some of these teams,

508
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: that has replacement to be done, has had its own

509
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: offensive line and defensive issues these past couple of years,

510
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: has a high profile head coach. North Carolina is interesting

511
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: to me just because of the roster is still at

512
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: a more talented spot than most in this common.

513
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Speaker 1: You ever meet someone and you like them just generally,

514
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: like a person hanging out, but they're a lot, just

515
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, Yeah, just a lot.

516
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: Oh waits, there's always something, Yeah, there's always something.

517
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: You can only take them in doses. I feel like

518
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: that about North Carolina this year. Okay, I really do.

519
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: North Carolina underachieved last season, and I remember a year

520
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: ago we were doing these previews thinking that North Carolina

521
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: could take a quantum leap forward. The issue for me

522
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: was that they lost a lot, right, they lost a

523
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: lot to the NFL, and it was really all on

524
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: Sam Howe, and we felt good about what they had.

525
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: We didn't expect this, though. We didn't expect six and seven,

526
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: three and five in conference, fifth in the Coastal a

527
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: year ago. That was a huge miss on behalf of

528
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Speaker 1: Mac Brown. And so Mac Brown did the evaluation, and

529
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: as Bill Connolly put it, he resorted to his old tricks,

530
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: which was the defense wasn't working, or it wasn't working

531
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: on one side of the ball, so let's hire an

532
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: old friend. Yeah, and he brings back gene Chiwick. We'll

533
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: see if that works. It worked fine the first time around.

534
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: Gene Chiswick coming back to try and retool this defense

535
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: is if he can achieve that, it would be good

536
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: because Carolina was pretty bad on that side of the ball.

537
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: Carolina was also dreadful in the trenches last year. Just

538
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: broadly speaking, Sam Howe was sacked on twelve percent of

539
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: his dropbacks. The line gave up more sacks than any

540
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: Power Five team. So Mac Brown swapped that a line coach.

541
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: Swapped that a line coach. As it stands, only two

542
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: guys are back from that line. Maybe that's a good thing.

543
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Defensively though, that was really where Carolina

544
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: was really bad. And some of the numbers that jump

545
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: out are mind blowing. Nine of the eleven Power five

546
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: teams on carolina schedule last year scored thirty or more points,

547
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: which is I mean, think about that for a second.

548
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. You can't win like that. Talk about putting

549
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: pressure on Sam Howe, like, come on, he's only one guy.

550
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: What can he do? So he made the change. He's

551
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: going back to gene Chiswick. Gene Chiswick was there a

552
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, did a good job. He toughened

553
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: him up. I would expect this year's version of defense

554
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: is going to be much more on the front foot

555
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: than what we saw with Jay Bateman, who did not

556
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: have the aggressive attacking mentality of one gene Chiswick correct.

557
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see if that's a attacking sideburn

558
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: cutting yes, as that as well. And by the way,

559
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: this is all secondary to the fact that Sam Howe's gone.

560
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: He's gone, And much like we discussed with Pitt, you

561
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: lose a guy like that, you can't help but take

562
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: a step back. This is a guy in Sam Howe

563
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: who basically rewrote the quarterback record books at North Carolina.

564
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: So regardless of who it is, Jacolby, Chriswell or Drake May,

565
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: those are the two names to know a quarterback. They're

566
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: going to have Josh Downs out wide, who's a very

567
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: good receiver. He's an NFL caliber receiver. They'll have somebody

568
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: to throw to. But it's not Sam Howell. It's not

569
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: Sam how There's gonna be a step back at quarterback.

570
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: So it's just you see what I'm saying, It's just

571
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: a lot, It's a lot you gotta fix the defense,

572
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: you gotta fix the offensive line, you gotta fix the quarterback.

573
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, man, I'm you're not gonna

574
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: see a well oiled machine out there. I can tell

575
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: you that this thing's gonna take some time. Recruiting has

576
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: been good. Recruiting has been very strong, and I'm hopeful

577
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: that after a bumpy first month, we're gonna start seeing

578
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: some guys get cycled in here and we're gonna see

579
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: increasing returns the rest of the way. Maybe they knock

580
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: off pit when they play on Halloween weekend. That'd be

581
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: a nice touch. But it's just the sense that I

582
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: get here is that there are far too many impediments.

583
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: There's that word again, far too many impediments for Carolina

584
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: to take a big step forward. Now, could they go

585
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: seven to five, yes, absolutely, Could they go wait in four, yeah,

586
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: I could see it. But in terms of Carolina taking

587
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: a jump becoming that team Capital T, Capital T in

588
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: the ACC Coastal, No, No, they're at least a year away.

589
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: Well, whoever starts at quarterback be behind what you believe

590
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: to be a better line. If it can't get worse

591
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: than it was last year.

592
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to envision it getting much worse.

593
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: So this is one of those instances where you say, well,

594
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: there's only two guys back on the line. Great, like

595
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: let's yeah, let's hit reboot. Let's start this thing over

596
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: and see where we go. There's a new line coach,

597
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: as I said, maybe that will pay some dividends. But

598
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: it's just it's gonna take a while to to kind

599
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: of reach its final state here. And so that's why

600
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: I say bumpy first month. Maybe we see increasing returns

601
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. I still like the

602
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: talent level at Carolina, but you know, there's just a lot, man,

603
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot.

604
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: So if Jeane Chiswick is indeed one of the best

605
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: substitute teachers in the history of this school district, that

606
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: sure he's not going to he's not going to be

607
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: highme Escalante if you understand that reference. I don't know

608
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: how I remember that name and pulled that out of

609
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: my ass. That he's not going to be this inspired

610
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: and incredible teacher, but he's going to know like, Okay,

611
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna put in a homeward bound VHS and we're

612
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: going to keep order in the classroom homeward bound.

613
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

614
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. These are weird polls. I understand.

615
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: I could have just said stand and deliver and kept

616
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: it consistent, but I decided not to. So if he's

617
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: a good enough substitute teacher, that this defense goes from

618
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: being abysmal at times too not great, but oh competent. Okay,

619
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: they have their act together. They're sixtieth or seventieth nationally.

620
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: Not a strength, not a weakness. And whoever it is

621
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: at quarterback, and whoever it is playing on this offensive

622
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: line are good enough? Is the schedule at the point

623
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: where they're better just because the foundation is a little

624
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: bit stronger.

625
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about the schedule.

626
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: Okay, who's scary?

627
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: Even playing app State on the road week two, I agree,

628
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: is not a great place to be. This is a

629
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: schedule that in addition to an app State game, which

630
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: they should win, but it's at State. They're clearly competent.

631
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: They're one of the better teams in the group of

632
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: five level. Got Notre Dame on here, got a road

633
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: game against Miami on here. Actually that's the weekend that

634
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: we do our live show in New York, So come

635
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: out now. I guess we'll talk a little bit about it.

636
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: They've got pit on here, They've got a road game

637
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: against Wake Forest, right home tilt against NC State. These

638
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: are good teams on the schedule, just counting among you know,

639
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: four or five games on here, these all could be

640
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: very easy losses for this team. So I'm not thrilled

641
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: about the way this sets up for him. Even Virginia

642
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: Tech Virginia Tech. We'll talk about Virginia Tech. I don't

643
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: know if it feels like they may not have enough

644
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: guys to feel the team. But even with that, Virginia

645
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: Tech's got a good linebacking corps and a good secondary

646
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: and dog Brett Prye knows how to work with that. Yeah,

647
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: in a sandwich spot between Notre Dame and a road

648
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: game against Miami, just just a lot, man, Just a

649
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: lot that needs to happen in order for this team

650
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: to take what feels like a big step forward. So

651
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: I feel like seven maybe eight wins.

652
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't hate that. I'm just gonna tell you my counterpoint,

653
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: and I don't think you're wrong. And in the app

654
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: State game, it's not like it's a sandwich spot. It's

655
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: between Florida and m and Georgia State.

656
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: They should be fine, right, they should be fine.

657
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: So you have a Notre Dame team in transition, right,

658
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: and that's at home. So the home road splits are

659
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: actually pretty great for North Carolina here. Forget about the

660
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: teams themselves for a moment, but having NC State pit

661
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: Notre Dame all at home. The Miami road game is tough,

662
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: but the sandwiches whatever. Virginia Tech Duke Duke on the road,

663
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: but the road spots in the ACC wake who we

664
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: just anticipate a shootout. That's just where we are. Virginia

665
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: probably anticipating another shootout. Duke Duke defense and offense and

666
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: special teams and everything. Like I think, in terms of

667
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 2: a team undergoing some transition looking to get a little

668
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: bit more competent on defense and just get an above

669
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: average performance from whoever wins that quarterback job, I think

670
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: it's fine. I think the home road splits are pretty good.

671
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: I don't think they're winning ten games, but I think

672
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: if one of those quarterbacks is good, which I think,

673
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: they both come in with some amount of recruiting hype. Yes,

674
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: especially Drake May, little brother of Luke May.

675
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: I don't know.

676
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: It's asking a lot for a defense and offensive line

677
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: to improve dramatically in a year. But I don't know.

678
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: There's a lot of up people in the ACC, as

679
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: I mentioned at the top, A lot of up and

680
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: down there there is.

681
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: I just it's too much for me. It's too much

682
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: for me. Seven and five. Seven and five's my play?

683
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: All right? I might take eight and four? How about that?

684
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: All right? Where are we going next?

685
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. You seem to always get a little

686
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: extra tingly for Brent Prye, So I guess Virginia Tech.

687
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Brent Prye, my boy comes down from Penn State. I

688
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: love the hire. How could I not? Brent Priye is

689
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: pure masculinity, Dan, from the beard to the hair to

690
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: the pants that are apparently a little too tight.

691
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: So he's your leading man in the ACC if we're

692
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: doing this as a movie previous.

693
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the rugged outsider, very rugged, very outside. There

694
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: is a mountain man quality to Brent Prye that if

695
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: you've ever driven the I eighty one corridor at Western Virginia,

696
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: it'll play there.

697
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

698
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: The real issue is the roster and also the schedule,

699
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: and what are those things? Dan? If not a social construct?

700
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: Really like, what is this world other than that? Other

701
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: than that? If I'm a Tech fan, this year is

702
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: about the drive for six. Pretend you're Illinois. Put on

703
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: your Illinois hat, if only for a fleeting moment. This

704
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: is a drive for six. Here. If you are a

705
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech fan, if you make a bowl game, wow, wow,

706
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: that'd be amazing. Hopefully you find some young guys that

707
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: you can build around, that you that you can pop

708
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: into the starting rotation and moving forward those of the folks,

709
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: then that become the pillars for your team. That's the goal.

710
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is twofold. First off,

711
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech loss and I'm going to read this now

712
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: so I don't miss anything. Virginia Tech loss their quarterback,

713
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: lead running back, top two receivers or tight end in

714
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: three NFL linemen that's on offense, as just on offense,

715
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: has a lot to replace. And then secondly, this is

716
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: something I said back in May. I've been reading a

717
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: lot about guys moving position, changing positions, and of course

718
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: whenever you read these previews, whether it's the athletic or

719
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: really anywhere, everybody puts a very positive, sunshiny spin on that.

720
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: We felt that maybe his skill set would be better

721
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: used over here. Sure, right, it's the genius at work

722
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: seeing something that nobody else did. There are at least

723
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: eight situations that I counted, probably more where somebody on

724
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: this Virginia Tech team change positions.

725
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's a lot of guys, Dan, It's a

726
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: lot of dudes playing the wrong part of the field. Yeah,

727
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: there's not like a searching for Bobby Fisher prodigy out

728
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: there who's assessing and seeing something that Justin Fluente didn't. Now,

729
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 2: this is a direct result of Justin Fluente not recruiting. Yeah,

730
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: they're doing this.

731
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Because they have to, not because they want to, and.

732
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: That's a problem poor development.

733
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: Brent Price is doing this because he has to. He

734
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: has to fill out a depth chart, he has to

735
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: fill out a roster, He has to fill out a

736
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: starting rotation on both sides here. So he doesn't want

737
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: to do this, he has to do this. That's not

738
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: a good thing. That doesn't bode well for the talent

739
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: level on this roster. And again it's a result of

740
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Fuente and and the recruiting operation. And I like Justin Fluente,

741
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: we had him on the show, but he didn't do

742
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: a good enough job on that side.

743
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is the too Deep is open

744
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: for business. It is open for business. You and I

745
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 2: we have four years of eligibility left. Maybe we'll take

746
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: a trip down to Blacksburg.

747
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh So that's where the program's at right now.

748
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: And so you can imagine how that bodes for win

749
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: loss records and expectations and things of that. ILK six wins,

750
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: you get to six wins, that would be the coaching

751
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: job of the year in the ACC maybe in the country.

752
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: For Brent Prye longer term. I love Brent Prye. He's

753
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: a solid recruiter. He knows the area. He knows how

754
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: to recruit virgin He did it at Penn State. He's

755
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: loaded up the staff frankly, with other guys who know

756
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: how to do the same thing. It just may take

757
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: a couple of years to bring him back to fully

758
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: reboot the program. I hope they give him the time

759
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: that he needs to fully do that because I think

760
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: he's a good coach. And I'll come back to what

761
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: I said before, he does have a little bit of

762
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: wiggle room. Maybe not in the pants, but certainly when

763
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: it comes to the back seven of this defense because

764
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: he's got a good linebacking corp and he's got a

765
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: secondary that I think he can lean on. It's what

766
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: he knows best, and he's got some talent to work with.

767
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: Dak's holyfield all and Tisdale's solid linebackers. You could do

768
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: a lot worse than Shamari Connor and the seer people's

769
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: in the secondary. Like, I think he will lean on

770
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: those guys. He will find ways to put them in

771
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: playmaking spots and use that defense as a lever to

772
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: take some pressure off the offense. But I don't know

773
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: what the offense is going to look like.

774
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 2: So justin Flente's quarterbacks were junior college transfer, Oregon transfer,

775
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: Texas Tech transfer before front day, and Michael Brewer Ryan

776
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: Willis was in there at some point I think before like,

777
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: is there somebody that can be Hendon Hooker esque who

778
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: was actually recruited by Virginia Tech to play quarterback? Or

779
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: is a promising transfer.

780
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: It's more transferred. Yeah, it's Grant Wells who comes over

781
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: from Marshall. It's Jason Brown who comes up from South Carolina.

782
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: It's one of those two guys, neither of whom I'm

783
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: all that thrilled to Bill. But are are serviceable? Right,

784
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: It's not a South Carolina situation from last year where

785
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: they're starting a GA these are these are serviceable guys

786
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: who I think will be okay. But you know, it's

787
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: just gonna take a while. It's gonna be a defensive,

788
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: ugly offensive brand of football this year. If I'm wrong,

789
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: that would be delightful. But six wins, I'm telling you

790
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: six wins. You get the six wins. That's like coaching

791
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: job of the year in the ACC.

792
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: Is their schedule? Six win a ball? Okay, that's all

793
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: I need to know, right, because somebody needs to win

794
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: four games, somebody, Like the math indicates that not everybody

795
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: can go bowling in a conference.

796
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's you could do worse. There is

797
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: a stretch in the middle of the season that frightens

798
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: me because a stretch. So they start out the year

799
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: ODU against a fellow Penn stater and Ricky Ronnie.

800
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: They don't always be the monarch.

801
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: I you know, ODU Boston College Wafford in West Virginia

802
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: is the first mark of the season. Whatever after that,

803
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: once you get into October, this is where it worries me.

804
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: In October, it's at North Carolina, it's at pitt it's

805
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: home against Miami, it's a bye week, and then you're

806
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: on the road at NC State. That could be oh

807
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: in four. Honestly sure that that could be owned four.

808
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: They close out the year Georgia Tech Duke. Nice to

809
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: have them back to back at Liberty and then Commonwealth Cup.

810
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: At Charlie Brewer. Speaking of Brewer, Charlie brewerash the oldest

811
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: Brewer twenty seven years young, good lord.

812
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: So it's look, if they were in a better place

813
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: on offense and just from an overall talent standpoint, I

814
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: would feel much better about the schedule because, as you said,

815
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of turnover here on this side, a

816
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: lot of churn in the ACC and it's not like

817
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: this is our murderer's row by any stretch. But with

818
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: so many questions, it's I don't know. Again, it's a

819
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: lot too many impediments.

820
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, this feels like a four or five win team.

821
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: Six wins would be miraculous.

822
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: Where are we going next, Let's stay in the state.

823
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Brendan Armstrong and the Who's Yeah.

824
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, another team with the new coach Tony Elliott comes

825
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: up from Clemson. They were six and six a year ago,

826
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: they were fourth in the Coastal and they had to

827
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: make a coaching change because Broncomanden Hall stepped away pretty

828
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: late in the game. It was a big deal. We

829
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: talked a lot about who could be interested in that role.

830
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: There were a bunch of names that were bandied about,

831
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: but Tony Elliott eventually gets the gig. Virginia is actually

832
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: in a very similar place of Virginia Tech this year,

833
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: and it's a massive rebuild, especially along the lines, especially

834
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: along the offensive line, especially on their defense. They basically

835
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: need to start the year four and one if they

836
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: want to have any shot of getting to a bull

837
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: because the schedule is extremely backloaded, and we could talk

838
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: about it, but it's very, very backloaded. The advantage that

839
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: Virginia has is that they've got a solid quarterback. If

840
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: we're comparing them to Virginia Tech, Virginia Tech doesn't got

841
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: Brendan Armstrong, and Brendan Armstrong actually has good wide receivers

842
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: to throw to. His top three are back from a

843
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: year ago, and Keyton Thompson and Billy Kemp, Dontavian Wicks,

844
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: they're all back, so that's a good place to be

845
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint. Tony Elliott's an offensive guy, so

846
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: they'll find ways to score. I'm curious to see how

847
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: Elliott schemes around the very obvious and glaring deficiency of

848
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: offensive line. Though this was a very past happy system

849
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: a year ago, I think he'll probably tone that down

850
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: a bit. We're not going to see an air raidy

851
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: style team like we saw last year. He will pull

852
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: that back and bring it more in check. But the

853
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: backfield is starting over this season. It's just tough to

854
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: get a feel for what the offense is going to

855
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: look like. Given the personnel, especially in the trenches up front,

856
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: and with the names they have coming back or the

857
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: guys are going to lean on at the running back spot,

858
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect there.

859
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: Counterpoint to your worries, Virginia games are going to be

860
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: some of the most fun to well, oh, they'll be

861
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: fun as hell. They'll be fun as hell. They were

862
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: arguably America's half team. You're the number eight sp plus offense,

863
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: number one hundred defense, and so if there's at least

864
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: a suitable amount of protection, not a lot of protection

865
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 2: for Brendan Armstrong. They lost one of their big offensive

866
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: linemen to Michigan. I believe right to transfer on the

867
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: inside if he was the center of guard I forget.

868
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: But Virginia Tech is not worth watching unless you're a

869
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: hockey fan, and maybe they're even less worth watching if

870
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: you're a hockey fan. Virginia is worth watching because Brennan

871
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: Armstrong is one of the most exciting players, Kethon Thompson

872
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: one of the most versatile, exciting receivers in the country.

873
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: So it's a movie that doesn't necessarily have a clear plot,

874
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: but there are explosions, there are good looking humans on

875
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: the screen, and so the Virginia Show is almost appointment television,

876
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: even if the results aren't always there to hang with

877
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: the passing attack.

878
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's a crazy character study this Virginia team, right,

879
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got names that are interesting, and the

880
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 1: big impediment outside of the offensive line is obviously the defense.

881
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: Sure kind of starting over on defense, it's the Nick

882
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: Jackson show. He's back. He led the acc and tackles

883
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: last year. Winebacker. You get used to the name. There

884
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: are new transfers up front, but pretty much entire overhaul

885
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: alongside Nick Jackson. There's a lack of star power. There

886
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: are a bunch of guys basically on this team who

887
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: got time because of injuries a year ago. They're pretty

888
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: nicked up. So they've got a new defensive coordinator, John Radzinsky.

889
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: He was previously at air Force, and what I I

890
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: think you like about him, if you're a Who's fan,

891
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: is that he did a lot with less. Air Force

892
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: is not out there getting five star guys, a lot

893
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: of two star, one star guys, and he got a

894
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: lot out of that defense. It was a top forty team,

895
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: top forty defense excuse me.

896
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: Ye go.

897
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: So to get that kind of production out of a

898
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: defensive unit that doesn't have top flight talent, that's encouraging.

899
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: That's very encouraging. I think in the short term, like

900
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: we'll see what he can get out of this bunch,

901
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: but I'm not optimistic longer term. Again, I feel good

902
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: about the hire. I have no reason not to. One

903
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: of the things that you read over and over again

904
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: if you study recruiting is that that area, in particular Virginia,

905
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Maryland, they're producing better talent than ever before.

906
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: And so if you're Tony Elliott, if you're Brent Prae,

907
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: even if you're Mac Brown, like, that's a good place

908
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: to be if you can build those pipelines and start

909
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: to at least establish a plan and make it feel

910
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: like there is some momentum. We'll see, we'll see what

911
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: they can do in twenty twenty two.

912
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: I always get a little bit worried about defensive coordinators

913
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: from service academies running the triple having the results that

914
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: they do because the other side of the field controls

915
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 2: so much of the game that the defense is always

916
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: so well rested, like there is such a nice I mean,

917
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: there's own disadvantages as well, but we saw that with

918
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: Jay Bateman coming from Army to North Carolina and it

919
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: not working out. So hope it works out for this

920
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 2: dude coming over from Air Force to Virginia. They need,

921
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: they needed to try anything at this point, and obviously

922
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: with the new coaching staff it was going to be

923
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: a new defensive coordinator. But yeah, they need, they need

924
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: to throw everything at the wall. So yeah, hope it

925
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: works out for the Who's, but yeah, they'll be worth watching.

926
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: We got two more teams in the Coastal and then

927
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, where do you want me to go. Who

928
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: do we have left?

929
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: We have Duke and we have Georgia Tech.

930
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 2: I guess let's just fast forward to Okay. Now, let's

931
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: let's talk Georgia Tech. Okay, because they're not going to

932
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: win a lot of games, no, But what I want

933
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: you to zero in on eventually is which one of

934
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: the teams on their schedule are they just going to

935
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: inexplicably look like a bowl team against and beat by

936
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: two touchdowns. That's all because it'll happen.

937
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: Well, it could have happened last year. It could have

938
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: This is a team last year part of the frustration

939
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: for Georgia Tech fans. So it's gonna be year four

940
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: under Jeff Collins. In the first three seasons they won

941
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: three games apiece. In that sense, he'd been remarkably consistent.

942
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: Last year was frustrating, though, because there were four games

943
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: that were one score losses. There were other opportunities. I'm

944
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: thinking of the Virginia Tech game where they beat themselves

945
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: with penalties. And Jeff Collins is in a situation now

946
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: where he's he's still kind of rebuilding after the Paul

947
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: Johnson era, but it's getting laid early. You got to

948
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: see some results here, otherwise they're going to be looking

949
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: for a different coach. It doesn't turn around in some

950
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: meaningful way this year, pretty good likelihood that Georgia Tech

951
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: is now looking for a new coach twenty twenty three.

952
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: So the problem that Tech had last year was that

953
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: they were still in the throes of this rebuild and

954
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: the schedule was brutal. The problem is that the schedule

955
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: is brutal again. The problem is that their best player

956
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: transferre Jamior Gibbs, transferred over to Alabama. The problem is

957
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: that they've got Clemson in Georgia to book nd. The

958
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: damn season's brutal a here, So you need to grade

959
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: him on a bit of a scale here, a bit

960
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: of a curve, because there is no wiggle room here,

961
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: no wiggle room in between. Listen to this in between

962
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: Clemson and Georgia, Ole, Miss at UCF at Florida State

963
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: at Virginia Tech, Miami at North Carolina. It's brutal I here,

964
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what are we doing here? What

965
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Yeah?

966
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: With less star power on offense.

967
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: With less star power. So like I would hate for

968
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech fans. I know there are a lo a lot

969
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: of Georgia Tech people who listen to the show and

970
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: are rooting for something to break, And maybe they're not optimistic,

971
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: but I'm not rooting breaking a good way to be

972
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: breaking a good wy Yeah, breaking a good Yeah. I'm

973
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: not openly rooting against Georgia Tech. But I'm gonna say

974
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: that a fourth consecutive three win season would kind of

975
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: be remarkable in its own right. Yeah, I'm not rooting

976
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: for anyone to get fired, but I could see it.

977
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I could see another three and nine. I could see

978
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: another three and nine, and I think Jeff Collins can too.

979
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: That's why he's basically throwing everything against the wall here

980
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: this season. He's throwing it all against the wall. Six

981
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: new assistants, a number of transfers. Bill Connolly, our friend

982
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: from ESPN, said it best. He said that Hail Mary's

983
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: like this rarely work, but a huge line change like this,

984
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: when you're trying to rebuild chemistry on the fly, it

985
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: works often enough to keep things interesting.

986
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 2: So give me that team that's going to fall victim

987
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: that will completely demoralize a fan base because they lost

988
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: to Georgia Tech, they lost the Ramblin Wreck.

989
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: It could be Miami. I mean, it could be Miami.

990
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: Recent odds suggest that that's probably the pick.

991
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be Miami. They get Miami a week

992
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: before Miami goes to Clemson. Okay, and clearly, if Miami

993
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: plays as well as I'm predicting they will, m hm,

994
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: this will be a game they have circled. So there

995
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: are a lot a lot of questions about this team, though,

996
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: I mean that probably is implied given the fact that

997
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: I said they might go three to nine again. But

998
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: there is an X factor here with Georgia Tech that

999
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: I think, despite the fact there's not a lot of

1000
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: reason for optimism, there is a lot of reason for

1001
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: interest because of the turnover. Right, They've got all these

1002
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: new assistants, They've got new transfers coming in Chiplong. Chiplong

1003
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: is running the offense now. I am familiar with his

1004
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: work from his time at Notre Dame and he did

1005
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: a good job there. He did a good job there.

1006
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: On the same level, though it is a personnel thing, right,

1007
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: it seems like Jeff Simms is probably the quarterback, like

1008
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: he's got the inside track. If you're a Tech fan,

1009
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: I guess it's good to have that experience. In the

1010
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: huddle and clearly he's got playmaking ability, but he was

1011
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: a liability, turned the ball over too much, made some

1012
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: bad decisions. He's going to be behind a line with

1013
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: four new starters, and two of them are transfers who

1014
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: had some time and you know they come from I

1015
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: think Bama and Clemson. Like that's okay, but there's not

1016
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: a lot to hang your hat on there. It's just

1017
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: too much uncertainty. They also bring over Tyson Pumachan from Clemson,

1018
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: who could contend for the quarterback job. I hope he does.

1019
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: I'd love to see what he can do. He wants

1020
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: playing time, so offensively, lose your best player. You've got

1021
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: Jeff Simms back. Is that a good thing? I would

1022
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: like to see him pushed a little bit from their

1023
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: transfer from Clemson, just to see what he can do defensively.

1024
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: Defensively last season looked like it would be a chance

1025
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: for them to take a step forward, and the exact

1026
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: opposite happened. And that's what scares me the most here.

1027
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm confident that Jeff Simms or whoever at quarterback in

1028
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: a chiplong system will find a way to make things interesting.

1029
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: The secondary is completely new They lose their best sack

1030
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: guy from a year ago, they lose their best tackler

1031
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 1: from a year ago. There is so very much turnover

1032
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: on that defensive side of the ball. They did work

1033
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: the portal pretty hard to their credit, but I feel

1034
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: like the hail Mary on defense, the impediments if we're

1035
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: staying consistent on defense far outweigh anything on the offensive

1036
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: side of the ball. I can't get past another nine

1037
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: three to nine season. It feels like a three and

1038
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: nine season to me when I look at this team.

1039
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: Got The most acc thing that could possibly happen would

1040
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: be Georgia Tech coming out and beating Clemson because Clemson's

1041
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: offense with a new coordinator with DJU still struggling in

1042
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 2: a big spot. That's what in Mercedes Benz. It's in Atlanta,

1043
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: but it's not at Bobby Dodd right, It's it's the

1044
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 2: neutral site location. They struggled with them last year. Clemson

1045
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: did with Georgia Tech, and Georgia Tech is still going

1046
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: three to nine and having one of those three bio

1047
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: win against Clemson to open the season. I believe they

1048
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 2: have Florida State in a look ahead spot as well, though,

1049
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 2: was right right before Miami. Oh, correct, it's a look

1050
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: ahead spot for the Knowles and I think it's after

1051
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: a bye week for Florida State. But that's the last

1052
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: game that Florida State will have played before Georgia Tech

1053
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: will have been Clemson. So Georgia Tech is a sandwich

1054
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: in that spot. So situationally, you know, Clemson slow start,

1055
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: Florida State in that spot, Miami in a look ahead spot.

1056
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: There is something there. There's a baby Georgia.

1057
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: Tech there, baby Texas Tech going on.

1058
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: Baby. Yeah, the tech schools have that in common. Yeah,

1059
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be a very, to say, the absolute

1060
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: least tricky year for Georgia Tech. But they're gonna bite somebody.

1061
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 2: They're gonna come up and bite somebody. It's just gonna happen.

1062
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: They will, they will, and again they were close last year.

1063
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: That was part of the frustration. Been a much better

1064
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: season last year. There were just too many inconsistencies and

1065
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: they beat themselves too often. That is the one thing, right,

1066
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: And we talk about this often when we're looking at

1067
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: schools that may have a coaching vacancy at some point

1068
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Speaker 1: in the near future, you feel a lot better about

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Speaker 1: that coach's long term prospects. If he is coaching a

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Speaker 1: team that you can see on Saturday as well coached,

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Speaker 1: they're not doing the dumb disciplinary things that come back

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Speaker 1: to bite them. Georgia Tech didn't do that. Georgia Tech

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00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: right still doing the penalties and found themselves in one

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Speaker 1: score games where they couldn't get over the top and

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Speaker 1: went three to nine. That that no matter how much

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Speaker 1: Jeff Collins loves Atlanta, and we know he does, just

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Speaker 1: you need to see the fundamentals to feel really good

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Speaker 1: about where things are headed. Talk to me about the Duchies,

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Speaker 1: change of scenery. Another new coach here in the coastal

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Speaker 1: Mike Elmo yup comes up from a and m I

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Speaker 1: think it'll ultimately be a good thing for Duke. The

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00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: program was in a stale state of being under David Cutcliffe.

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Speaker 1: For all the good stuff David Cutcliffe did, it was

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00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: it had gone stale. Let's be real, it was a

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00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: stale program. Mike Elko takes over. It's a gig. Frankly,

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00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: that surprised a lot of folks that he would take

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Speaker 1: this because it's a huge rebuild effort. And I'd go

1088
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: so far as to say that people over at techsags

1089
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: dot com felt betrayed if you read those message betrayed.

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Speaker 1: Why would he do this? Duke, Come on, we're building

1091
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Speaker 1: something here, maybe we'll win an SEC. He took the gig.

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Speaker 1: So the upside is that he's been an excellent defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator for a while. Now he's taking over the worst

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Speaker 1: defense in the ACC. So at a minimum, they get

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00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: a really good defensive coordinator who I think will be

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Speaker 1: hands on and maybe he can help improve that side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. This is a defense that gave up

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Speaker 1: an average and I had to double check this to

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Speaker 1: make sure it was right, an average of fifty one

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Speaker 1: points per game in their final six games last year.

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Speaker 1: An average fifty one points.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 1: No, that puts him just outside the top one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty seven scoring defenses in college football from last year.

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Speaker 1: I see. It is a good thing that they've got

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00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: a good defensive coordinator coming in and you know he's

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00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: going to run the show. They're going to take their lumps.

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Speaker 1: He will make the defense better though in the long run,

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00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: So you could say it's much more of an attacking,

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00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: aggressive system.

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Speaker 2: Dan, Yeah, as Jim Knowles succeeded with Durham.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. So the other bright spot here is

1113
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: that Mike Elko has coached in this part of the

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Speaker 1: country before when he was a coordinator at Wake. He

1115
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Speaker 1: knows the area. Again, on the heels of what I

1116
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: said previously, recruiting in this specific geography has definitely improved.

1117
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: There is more talent coming out of this region. Mike

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00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: Elko being there before, knowing what he's up against. I

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Speaker 1: think that helps for Duke.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're all all these guys taking jobs like

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Speaker 2: this academic place not a lot of history of high

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Speaker 2: level success. You know, Duke did play, I believe in

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Speaker 2: an ACC championship game. Yeah, yeah, didn't fare well, but

1124
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Speaker 2: played in I mean, speaking of Texas, A and M

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Speaker 2: I think it was was that Johnny Manziel's final collegian

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Speaker 2: game the bowl game against Duke, or I know he

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00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: played in a bowl game against Due. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if that was his final game. But you win six games,

1129
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: you're a god, and so you're all just you're all

1130
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: these guys, Clarkley, Mike Elko, Jeff Collins to maybe a

1131
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: lesser extent with Georgia Tech, but it's still, you know,

1132
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: a pretty rigorous academic institution. That they're trying to be

1133
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: Pat Fitzgerald. They're trying to mount a good enough defense

1134
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: to give a lot of trouble to everybody, and a

1135
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: competent enough offense to be average ish, that they win

1136
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: games and that their act is together when the opportunity

1137
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: truck spills things off of the flatbed, that Duke has

1138
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: its act together enough to win games. And so it's

1139
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: it's a talent thing first and foremost, it's filling out

1140
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: the roster. It's filling out the too deep. It's getting

1141
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: people to play hard, and then it's losing close and

1142
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: then it's winning close. And so we're in phase one

1143
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: of that from Mike Elcho and Duke. And if you

1144
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: are one of these programs, I'd much rather have that

1145
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: defensive minded guy who can get the most out of

1146
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: you know, guys that he's able to pick up in

1147
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: the area, which Mike Elco has that experience doing as

1148
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: you mentioned. So I think it's a sound long term plan.

1149
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Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, and especially since this was just such

1150
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 1: a glaring weakness defensively, they're horrible. Yeah, they will be better.

1151
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: That Mike Elko will make them better. I'm not saying

1152
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Speaker 1: he's going to make them a top fifty defense, top

1153
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: seventy five defense, but it'll make them better. They're not

1154
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: going to be one hundred and twenty eighth again right

1155
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: and scoring defense like they were a year ago. So

1156
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, those are all reasons to feel good about

1157
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: this team. It's still a bad team though it really

1158
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: it's a bad team. Nobody's back. It's a full rebuild

1159
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: for Elko. There are some bright spots in the trenches

1160
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Speaker 1: which he can work around. Jalen Calhoun is a solid

1161
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver. We'll find out if it's Riley Leonard or

1162
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Speaker 1: Jordan Moore at quarterback. Kevin John's air new offensive coordinators

1163
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Speaker 1: picking between those guys. Both are sophomores, so we'll see.

1164
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a work in progress. Don't don't

1165
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: expect too much from the dookies. But I do like

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Speaker 1: Mike Elko, as I liked all these coaches. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's my blind spot. I like all the coaching

1168
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Speaker 1: hires all the time, but I'm trying to stay positive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting dynamic. I have no idea if it means anything,

1170
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: but coach k is gone, which like the football team

1171
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: could sort of like do its own thing. It wasn't

1172
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: where the university's bread was buttered. But now they make

1173
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Speaker 2: the coaching change on the basketball side of things, and

1174
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a ton, you know, a lot more

1175
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Speaker 2: attention to basketball at Duke than there is to football always,

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Speaker 2: but you know, there's it's sort of a big transitionary

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Speaker 2: time for Duke athletics, and I wonder if that's going

1178
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: to mean more attention to football, more expectations for football

1179
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Speaker 2: if Duke basketball is only so so in the short term.

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Speaker 2: Under John Shire hires a new basketball coach, He's from here,

1181
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Speaker 2: He's from where I'm from. Yeah, so it's interesting. It's

1182
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Speaker 2: an interesting time there, and I think it was a good.

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Speaker 1: Hire final team is Notre Dame.

1184
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Speaker 2: I think we're good. I think we're actually out of

1185
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: time ties looking at this, we're running real short. So

1186
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: give me it like two sentences.

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Speaker 1: I didn't pick a movie for Notre Dame. I picked

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01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: a character type, okay, because Notre Dame is kind of

1189
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: their own thing, at least they want to be for now.

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Speaker 1: The theme for Notre Dame is that Notre Dame is

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01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: suddenly a lot more likable, and it's caught me a

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01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: little bit off guard. I did not necessarily expect it

1193
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: to last this long. Okay, it has. It's lasted many

1194
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Speaker 1: months after Brian Kelly left, and just from the stuff

1195
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Speaker 1: I've read and the people I've heard discussed Notre Dame,

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01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: there's definitely a different vibe with how people are treating

1197
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Speaker 1: the Irish this year. It doesn't mean everybody loves them,

1198
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Speaker 1: It just means that most people don't hate him quite

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Speaker 1: as much. Okay. Notre Dame in this story is the

1200
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: redeemed villain. When you go out line, you go out online,

1201
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: you can find a thousand different examples of redeemed villains.

1202
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: But Notre Dame is Darth Vader. They still have some

1203
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Speaker 1: good in him, Dan, Okay, they're Darth Vader. They're t

1204
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: eight hundred from Terminator two, who was reprogrammed for more

1205
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: noble purpose, okay. Or there's snapeybe, there's several snape from

1206
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: Harry Potter, who was an unlikable character for a decade

1207
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Speaker 1: until suddenly he's like, oh shit, he's good. Now, what

1208
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: are we doing? Yeah, that's that's Notre Dame's role. That's

1209
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: where Notre Dame is at right now. Because of circumstances

1210
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly left to take the LSU gig. They hired

1211
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Speaker 1: from within. There was a little bit of a Varsity

1212
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Speaker 1: Blues feel at the end of last year when Marcus

1213
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: Freeman was taken over in the Fiesta Bowl and did

1214
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Speaker 1: a great coaching job for at least one half. Yeah,

1215
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: but they're they're they're kind of the redeemed villain in

1216
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Speaker 1: this story.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you didn't go to a whipped cream bikini

1218
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: by the way, with the Varsity Blues.

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Speaker 1: Ro Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. It's

1220
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Speaker 1: still Notre Dame after all. It's not getting crazy. Eleven

1221
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: and two last year lost that Fiesta Bowl. But I

1222
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: think a lot of momentum, a lot of steam on

1223
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame right now new coach Marcus Freeman. There are

1224
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Speaker 1: two ways to look at Notre Dame in twenty twenty two,

1225
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: and both of them start with Marcus Freeman. On one hand,

1226
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Speaker 1: you've got undeniable momentum, especially in the recruiting game. Notre

1227
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Speaker 1: Dame at time of recording here in late July has

1228
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Speaker 1: the number one overall recruiting class. They finished second. Back

1229
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, they finished third, and twenty

1230
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Speaker 1: thirteen about five years later. But number one, if it holds,

1231
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: that's a huge deal. And you can ignore that it's

1232
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: a direct result of Marcus Freeman ascending to the top

1233
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Speaker 1: dog in that program and applying that elbow grease to

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Speaker 1: the recruiting game. It's what he said when he took

1235
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Speaker 1: the job, and it's why a lot of people, I

1236
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Speaker 1: think wanted him to be the name outside of what

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Speaker 1: he can do as a coach on the field, what

1238
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Speaker 1: he can do, how he can elevate that program in

1239
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: the recruiting game. It's a big deal. So number one

1240
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: right now in the recruiting world is huge and definitely

1241
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: has a lot of steam on the IRIS program. That

1242
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: the question of whether or not he can build the

1243
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: talent pool, whether he can recruit, that seems to have

1244
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: been answered. He can clearly recruit.

1245
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:09,919
Speaker 2: Sure.

1246
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: The second and more obvious question is can he coach

1247
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: first halves? So far, just a hell of a first

1248
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: half coach, a brilliant first half coach in that Fiesta Bowl. Yeah,

1249
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 1: the best answer I can give you is, I hope.

1250
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: So we've seen him coach defense, We've we've certainly read

1251
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: a lot about other people who have coached with him

1252
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: against him. Everybody seems to think he can coach, and

1253
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: he was fast tracked to be a pretty prominent FBS

1254
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: Power five coach. That was very much in the cards

1255
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: for him from the moment he started coaching, specifically at

1256
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

1257
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: How much older are you than Notre Dame's head football coach.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that. I don't want

1259
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: to talk about I'm not here to talk about the past.

1260
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: We're here to talk about the future.

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: We're talking about the present, sir.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, Like, if he can string a

1263
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: few more of those first halves from the Fiesta Bowl together,

1264
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: then we're cooking with gas. But otherwise, I don't know

1265
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: how to answer that question. It's very speculative that we

1266
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: like a lot of what Marcus Freeman brings to the table,

1267
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: to the equation, but we just we don't have a

1268
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: whole lot to go on. So here's what I know

1269
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: about Notre Dame. I know that Notre Dame has plenty

1270
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: of questions on the offensive side of the football, and

1271
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: I feel good about the fact that Tommy Reese is

1272
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: getting more control over that side. He's been with these guys.

1273
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: He knows the system, presumably an unfettered Tommy Reese gives

1274
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: us a little bit of a different dimension on offense. Okay,

1275
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what that looks like like. I think

1276
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Tyler Buckner's team. Drew Pine was awful

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Speaker 1: in spring. Tyler Buckner TB twelve as I like to

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01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: call him here on the show, It's gonna be his show.

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01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: And he's much more of a threat than Jack Cone.

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01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: I was screaming from the mountaintops last year. Even though

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01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: Jack Cone had a good year, Tyler Buckner gives him more.

1282
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: He's a dual threat kid. We saw him predominantly as

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01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: like a running quarterback last year when they brought him in.

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01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: They can do dual threat stuff with him that I

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01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: think will be encouraging and exciting and will offer a

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01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: new look for that notre dame offense.

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Speaker 2: Can I can I stop you right there?

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01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: Is he good?

1289
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 2: Though?

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01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: That's the thing. He's athletic ability, you were you liked

1292
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 2: him better than Cone because of athletic But can he

1293
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: complete passes downfield?

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01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: This is so this is a problem that we have

1295
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: with previews. Yeah, and no preview is immune to this

1296
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: because just the very nature of previewing teams and previewing

1297
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: a season, Yeah, it forces you into this mold where

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01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: you're looking at what you think a player can do

1299
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: and being optimistic about the fact that he can do it.

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01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: When the live bullet starts to fly, right, I don't know.

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, in the limited action that

1302
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: we saw of Tyler Buckner, he definitely showed flashes, but

1303
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: we didn't see him on this level like we I

1304
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: was hoping we would see more of Buckner last year

1305
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: and we didn't know.

1306
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: Is there buzz on the Notre Dame intellectual Dark Web

1307
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: from users who are supposedly connected to people who've been

1308
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 2: at practice? Is like Spanish American war Vet fifty five

1309
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: reporting that everybody's saying Tyler Buckner, guys, he was good,

1310
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: he was good in the spring Dan he was really

1311
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 2: I don't care about I'm saying, like, is is there

1312
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: actual electricity from people who are are connected or perceived

1313
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: to be connected, like I want you talking Dye Nation

1314
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: people like, is there like that understanding that like this

1315
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: is the next big thing, or is everybody like well,

1316
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: maybe the sense that I get is somewhere between next

1317
01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 2: big thing, and well maybe okay, okay, so yeah, we're

1318
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: not getting like Jimmy class and level hype here. Yeah,

1319
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: but we're also not getting Drew Pine hype. But usually

1320
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: usually when that guy is that guy, you're like, yeah, no,

1321
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: no brainer, And if that's not happening, they gotta win

1322
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: out in other ways. I was picking up way more

1323
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 2: electricity last year, okay, but you know, I don't know,

1324
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: We'll see.

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01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm optimistic. I like the skill set. I

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 1: think he'll be good. I like that it's Tommy Reese

1327
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: gloves off, let's go. But I don't know. I The

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01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: other question that I have about the offense is it's

1329
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: sort of related to Buckner, but it's all kind of

1330
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: one thing, right, Like running back. Running back's a problem

1331
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. Kyra Williams went pro Cebo Flemister transferred.

1332
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: Logan Diggs is hurt. What else are we going to

1333
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: do now at this running back position? What are our

1334
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: options here? Ja Darien Price another guy who people were

1335
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: excited about a freshman, and he got hurt, popped in

1336
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: Achilles in the spring.

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01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: It's star power for Notre Dame.

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 1: Yes, so they've got they've got three healthy backs. Chris Tyree,

1339
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: who we know. I like Chris Tyree.

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: Is he every down?

1341
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, we haven't seen him in that role. Yeah,

1342
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: Audrey Guestime, there's a name for you. There's sophomore, bigger guy,

1343
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, more of a North South guy. He might

1344
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: step in. He might be able to give them a

1345
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: little bit more Logan Digsie style of running. But you know,

1346
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: and Jabrand Payne. But someone needs to step up, is

1347
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: the point. And likewise, somebody needs to step up out

1348
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: wide too, you know, to the point of wild speculation

1349
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: and focusing in on what a guy could do if

1350
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: given the opportunity, as opposed to what they have done.

1351
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: If I have to read another preview talking about Braiden Lindsay,

1352
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: this could be the year for Braden Lendsay. Brain Lindsay

1353
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: needs to stay on the damn field. Okay, he's got skills,

1354
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: otherwise he wouldn't be it Notre Dame, otherwise he wouldn't

1355
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: have been, you know, an Oregon guy, right like hm,

1356
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: he needs to stay on the damn field, and then

1357
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: we can write the preview for Braiden Lendsay. Of course,

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01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: everybody's better when they're healthy. But I you know, whether

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01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: it's Braid Lenzie or Avery Davis, like one of those

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01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: two guys I think needs to step up and be

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01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 1: kind of the leader of this unit. Lorenzo Styles is young,

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 1: he looked really good in the Fiesta Bowl. I think

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: he's probably their top target out wide. Okay, but I

1364
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: would like to see some veteran leadership from either a

1365
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 1: Lensi or an Avery Davis. Avery Davis if he can stay healthy.

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01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: Another guy I think is somebody who gives them some

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01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: stability out wide. But otherwise you're talking like Dion Colsey,

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01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: Jaden tom Is, Tobias Merryweather recruit dude. Yeah, yeah, he's

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01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: a big dude, like I just I don't know who

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01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: who those guys are, like Lorenzo Styles. Let's put this way,

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01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: Michael maher is getting the targets, all right, Michael Mahyer,

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01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: the big tight end, he's gonna be a first round pick. You.

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01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: He's getting their targets. So offense to me is an

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01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: open question. Looking around elsewhere, I feel good about the defense.

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01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I think makes me feel

1376
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: a lot more optimistic about where this Notre Dame team heads.

1377
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two. I feel good about their defensive line,

1378
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:27,560
Speaker 1: their linebacker at least fifty percent, confident in their secondary

1379
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: with Cam Hart at cornerback, with Brandon Joseph the transfer

1380
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 1: from Northwestern being on the back end of that defense.

1381
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: I feel really good about what they've got up front

1382
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, and I also

1383
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: feel really good about what they've got upfront along the

1384
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. You have four guys back,

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01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: and they bring back Harry high Stand, who built kind

1386
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: of that pipeline in taking Notre Dame offensive linemen into

1387
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. So there's a lot to like here. I

1388
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: think they'll be fine. I don't know what the offense

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01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 1: looks like. That's where really where the main point of

1390
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: contention is for me. The schedule. There's a lot of

1391
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: meat on the bone here. Dan like, Yeah, if Notre

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01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: Dame finds a way to go eleven and one against this,

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01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 1: they're probably a playoff team, or at least in the

1394
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: playoff conversation. Because they're at Ohio State to open the year,

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01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: they're home against Clemson the first week of November, They're

1396
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: at USC to close out the year. And I do

1397
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: think USC will be pretty good bye. Then in between

1398
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: they are just a bunch of games that are interesting.

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01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: What are their most losable? Non USC Ohio State Clemson game.

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01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: The neutral cider against BYU and Vegas is interesting to me.

1401
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: That scares the hell out of me. Okay, that game

1402
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: scares the hell out of me. There is a game

1403
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: against Boston College the week before USC, which seems like

1404
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: a like an obvious getaway game that could be a

1405
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,799
Speaker 1: total look ahead spot for Notre Dame. Filled your Kovic,

1406
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, one last crack at Notre Dame.

1407
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 2: I wouldn't worry about Boston College. That's a conversation for

1408
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: another day.

1409
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a scar tissue game for me. Yeah,

1410
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: it's spaced out pretty well, but it just again, it

1411
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: seems like a lot. It seems like a lot here.

1412
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: So let's put it this way. The floor is pretty high.

1413
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: The floor is eight and four. I don't think they

1414
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: fall below that. Nine to three, ten and two to

1415
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: me represents huge success for Freeman.

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01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't get the sense that, like

1417
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: I guess maybe other than Michael Mayer and I don't

1418
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: know how much time I want to spend on Notre

1419
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 2: Dame because I think they're going to be good. I

1420
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,879
Speaker 2: just the star power thing worries me that on defense,

1421
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: they're not anchored by Kyle Hamilton, They're not anchored by

1422
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 2: Jalen Smith. They're not anchored by you know, a crazy

1423
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 2: edge rusher or something like that like they have in

1424
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 2: the past.

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01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: Listen, they're good.

1426
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're totally good.

1427
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: They're very good along the defensive line. I don't want

1428
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: to under sell what they've got coming back because it's

1429
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 1: Isaiah Showski who's going to be a first round pick. Yeah,

1430
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: and will rush the passer just an Adam Eola. He's

1431
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: solid in that defensive front seven. Like, they will be

1432
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 1: fine defensively, they have enough star power there to be

1433
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: a good defensive unit. Offensively is where I'm worried.

1434
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 2: Sure, Marcus Freeman as a head coach, if he is

1435
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: exactly as good as Brian Kelly and not, we might

1436
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: out recruit him whatever. But if he's as good as

1437
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly, they'll win ten eleven games every year. Now,

1438
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly was an awesome head coach, very good. Like

1439
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 2: he was full on awesome for Notre Dame. I mean

1440
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: you might not like him, you might not like his personality,

1441
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: but the results, especially without star power at quarterback or

1442
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: receiver most years, speak for themselves. That they were sort

1443
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: of squarely in that playoff conversation at least when they

1444
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: weren't going four and eight. So they're a really good

1445
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: program under Brian Kelly. A great program under Brian Kelly.

1446
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman has to be that good to have that conversation,

1447
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: and that's a very difficult bar. And so the expectations,

1448
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,839
Speaker 2: it's Notre Dame, they should be outsized. You also neglected

1449
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: to mention a very key name that everybody is about,

1450
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 2: al Golden Baby running.

1451
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: Running the defense. Yeah.

1452
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, I think the talent level will be

1453
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 2: that they have a five star quarterback coming in what

1454
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: next year, in Lloyd Carr's grandson. But yeah, I just

1455
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 2: think it's a tricky combination in dealing with offensive questions

1456
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 2: with a new quarterback and a new head coach. And

1457
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 2: sure whatever, Tommy Reese is unencumbered whatever that actually means.

1458
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm high on Notre Dame. I'm not

1459
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: crazy high.

1460
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: Give the points Week one against Ohio State, Okay, give

1461
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: the points. I don't know what the lines at now.

1462
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: I should have been more prepared, but by the time

1463
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,719
Speaker 1: most people listen to this, the line will probably change. Anyway.

1464
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,520
Speaker 1: Give the points they're by at least fourteen.

1465
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 2: Maybe they're a team that they get blown out in

1466
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 2: Week one and then they're a really good team. To

1467
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: wager width that they're going to be under the hopes

1468
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: after getting blown out.

1469
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: I hope so. Because the defense is in place to

1470
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: be good. They've got that defensive bedrock that I think

1471
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: will be good and solid. But the offense till that

1472
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: figures out what it's gonna be. You know, I can't

1473
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: put a number on.

1474
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 2: That so early on under construction offensively, just trying to

1475
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: build it brick by brick. The first time I've played

1476
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 2: this sound during previous season. Okay, that's it.

1477
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 1: Give me a quick run through of your American teams.

1478
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,919
Speaker 2: I've got a number of American teams, high profile American

1479
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 2: teams to talk about, because it's probably going to be

1480
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: one of the more wide open conferences. Despite it, you know,

1481
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: whether it's G five, whether it's a Power five program,

1482
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 2: that's is gonna be pretty wide open. Cincinnati loses a lot, Yeah,

1483
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,759
Speaker 2: they're still gonna be good. They've got a quarterback battle

1484
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 2: they lose a lot on offense. You know Jerome Ford

1485
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: was the home run hitter des Ritter. Obviously you had

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01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: a crush on Forever. Losing the corners that they do,

1487
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: losing the edge rushing that they do, they're gonna take

1488
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: a step back, but they've recruited well enough. They're gonna

1489
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 2: be a good team. The home road splits are at Arkansas,

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01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: at Tulsa, at UCF, at SMU. I still see this

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01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: program because they're well coached enough, even though what they

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01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 2: lose Mike de Board to La or sorry with not

1493
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: Mike to Board, Mike Denbrock Denbrock there it is. Yeah,

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 2: they lose our offensive coordinator, but look, they lose pieces,

1495
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: but they've recruited well enough. I think they're an eight

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01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 2: nine win program. It's even losing what they've lost. So

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01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 2: I saw Week one at Arkansas Week one kind of

1498
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: with nothing to lose, though Arkansas has got all this

1499
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,480
Speaker 2: hype there at home, I don't know. I think Cincinnati's

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01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 2: gonna play loose. They already made the playoff. Houston is

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01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 2: interesting to me. Houston is an interesting team, returning what

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01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: they do on both sides of the ball. Their number

1503
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 2: one receiver Clayton Town at quarterback. What they return on

1504
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 2: defense a full on kind of excellent, quietly excellent defense

1505
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 2: that rushed the quarterback really really well last year. Houston

1506
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 2: and Nathaniel Dell's that receiver. They hit the portal hard.

1507
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 2: So they fill out the two d pretty impressively with

1508
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 2: power five level talent. If they can figure out cornerback,

1509
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's a conference fraught with incredible

1510
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: passing attacks, but if they can figure out corner they

1511
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 2: do start with the road runners of UTSA and Texas Tech,

1512
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: your Red Raiders on the road, but they squarely fall

1513
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 2: into the like you love getting seduced early. I'd be like, look,

1514
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't. They might go twelve and zero, Like this

1515
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 2: is if there is a candidate to go undefeated. This

1516
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: schedule is not a killer schedule by any stretch. They're

1517
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 2: at SMU November fifth, But because of what they return

1518
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, because of what I

1519
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: believe their coaching acumen to be, which is pretty strong.

1520
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: Double digit wins almost feels like minimum.

1521
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: And they won twelve games last year.

1522
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, I think they're gonna win a ton of games.

1523
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 2: And I think the potential to go undefeated, especially when

1524
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: they get utsa down their offensive Cordora, when they get

1525
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 2: Texas Tech starting over again. From the coaching staff, I

1526
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 2: think Houston's in an awesome spot to win a ton

1527
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 2: of games again. So something to keep your eye on.

1528
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

1529
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: Like Houston, I do. I like them a lot.

1530
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 2: Memphis feels like a six or seven win team. The

1531
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: defense doesn't look incredible. You know, they lose star power

1532
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 2: wide receiver. They lost a bunch of close, you know,

1533
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 2: one score type games last year. They just they got

1534
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 2: to get off the field on defense. It's an interesting team.

1535
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: You know, they return a decent amount on offense. They

1536
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: got to get off the field on defense. They were

1537
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty fifth last year in plays per

1538
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: game on defense. But it's it's a nice baseline that

1539
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 2: they handled sort of explosive plays well. They return enough.

1540
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: It's a meady middle as I like to talk about

1541
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: Tye on this schedule for Memphis, and that's Houston at

1542
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: ECU at Tulane, a bye before they go to Orlando

1543
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 2: for UCF and then Tulsa and they open with Mississippi

1544
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: State in Stark, Vegas. So it's a tough schedule, but

1545
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can improve to competency on defense.

1546
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: They're interesting to me. Who's going to try to run

1547
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: the hell out of the ball hole. Naylor's is thirty

1548
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 2: seven years old and still the quarterback for the Pirates.

1549
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: Defense is interesting. It's sort of a bend but don't

1550
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 2: break situation. They have their own medy middle and that

1551
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 2: includes at BYU after UCF, So I don't know. I

1552
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: think you see is going to make a bowl game again.

1553
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 2: You know, Mike Houston I think is a pretty good coach.

1554
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: But that's a tough schedule. USF is really interesting to me.

1555
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: I still think they're a little bit away. But they

1556
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 2: add Gary Behannon at quarterback from from Baylor. They hit

1557
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 2: the portal hard, which I think they should. It's a

1558
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,919
Speaker 2: tough schedule though it's a it's just a tough schedule.

1559
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: There's I mean, there's decent star power on offense, Jarre Maghum,

1560
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 2: Xavier I would say worthy, but Xavier we Weaver, excuse me.

1561
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: So there's interesting pieces and like in sort of the

1562
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 2: way we talk about Arizona, which I guess there was

1563
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 2: that connection with Jordan mcleoud. They are ascending in a

1564
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 2: in an interesting competent way, but in terms of depth

1565
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 2: of talent, there's still a lot to be desired. Three

1566
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 2: to four wins, just a tough schedule at Florida, at Louisville,

1567
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: at Cincinnati, at Euston, Like the road splits are just

1568
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: kind of impossible. I'm not high on Navy. The defense

1569
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 2: might be decent up front, but offensively, I still think

1570
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 2: even with the win over Army, I still think there's

1571
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 2: just a ways away, and that the star power isn't

1572
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 2: there with the triple, just not enough to love all around.

1573
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 2: Maybe a four to five win program.

1574
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: Will there offense be any bit of this year?

1575
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: Maybe I just think they're sort of capped. Interesting.

1576
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: I just don't love the talent on offense because you know,

1577
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:39,959
Speaker 1: for so long, Navy's big impediment keep it consistent. Yeah, defense,

1578
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: defense wasn't good last year. Their offense per the SP

1579
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: plus one hundred and fifteenth, which was a really big

1580
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: black eye.

1581
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the margin for like, if the offense is not operating,

1582
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: if they're not efficiently picking up first downs and servicing

1583
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: their own defense by keeping them rested, and they're off

1584
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 2: the field quickly, I mean it's a cliche like you

1585
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 2: can't get down ten, you can't get down seventeen as

1586
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: an option offense that you know, you don't have that outpitch,

1587
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: you don't have that second or third option, like, well,

1588
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: they're hitting the fast ball, it's throwing the curve. They've

1589
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 2: got the one thing, and if that one thing isn't

1590
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: working out, it get gets pretty poor pretty quickly. So

1591
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: I think they'll improve. I think they'll you know, I

1592
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: think Kennya Modololo is a good coach, and they were

1593
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: pretty young on offense last year, so I think there

1594
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 2: is going to be some scheduled improvement. But that's just

1595
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: it's tough. If they're getting to a bowl game, they're

1596
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: winning a bunch of close ones. That's me is how

1597
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: they're doing it. So that's my side of the American.

1598
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 2: I'm high on Houston. I have Houston as the team

1599
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: on this side of these because you know, the American

1600
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 2: and the way that it's structured is changing. But I

1601
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: think Cincinnati's going to be fascinating because there's so much

1602
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 2: continuity and the talent level is so high that you know,

1603
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 2: whether it's the I think it's Eastern Michigan transfer who

1604
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: comes in Ben Bryant, or if it's Evan Prater, the

1605
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: sort of the homegrown kid at quarterback who you like.

1606
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 2: He's a big, tall kid. I think the baseline is

1607
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 2: so strong at Cincinnati that they're just gonna win a

1608
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,879
Speaker 2: ton of games step step back without two NFL corners,

1609
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 2: but they'll be really good. So there's my side, all.

1610
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: Right, Well, uh, that does it for the ACC coastal

1611
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:22,320
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Speaker 2: So you a a Colin Firth guy? Do you celebrate

1616
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Speaker 2: his CMDB page?

1617
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Speaker 1: Colin Firth guy? Probably a stretch to say I'm a

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1619
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