1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Because again, if they want him that badly, this would 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: be done. 3 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: Steve Cohen has shown the propensity when he once a guy, 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: he goes and gets him. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 3: After Monday. What a weekend, What a freaking weekend? Where's fun? 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 3: I was with my friends in person, including the two 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: that you're looking at right now or listening to if 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 3: you catch it later, Kratz and Pierzinski AJ did you 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: have a blast? And how cool was it to stream 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: that whole event for the first time It's been done 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 3: one hundred times. The BBWA Awards dinner, we had all 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: the big guests, so you do a nice little job 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: hustling to grab some of them. But your overall thoughts 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: and grades for the weekend. 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: Oh, the weekend overall was an a plus, not only 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: for the awards dinner, but getting to see friends old 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: and new. Guys. I played with guys, I played against 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: guys I worked with like David Cohene, who I don't 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: get to see very often anymore. And I'll be honest, 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: as a player, I had no idea that that was 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: a thing. I just thought there was like an awards 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: thing where they just hand you your cy young and 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: the hand you your MVP and the hand your manager. 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: I had no idea it was a whole dinner and 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: a whole experience like it was. So it was awesome 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: to be there in person. And you know what, I 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: got to have a great weekend. I went to some 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: of the best restaurants and New York. I got into 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: one of the hardest ones in the world last night. 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: It's called Corner Store and had dinner there last night. 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: So thanks for thanks to Ken, and thanks to Mark 32 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: for paying for my weekend. 33 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, we took the boys out to dinner on Friday, obviously, 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: or the group out to dinner on Friday, obviously, not 36 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: Kratz because he was local. So we saw you Saturday. 37 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: But just want to shout out the writers, the players, 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: and we're going to show you know, a mix of 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: some of the conversations that we had from over the weekend. 40 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: You can of course catch all of that on our 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: socials YouTube, et cetera, but we'll show you like a 42 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: little recap video and then we are going to run 43 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: in full the pauls Ian's conversation later on in the show, 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: and we'll run the Barry Bonds conversation tomorrow, so you 45 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: can catch a lot of that and you can get 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: it if you know where to find it early, but 47 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: we're also going to run it for the TV crowd. 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: When was the last time Barry talked to anybody about anything? 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: It's a great question. Years, right, years since I've seen 50 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: him sit down with anyone. And I'm talking years and years. 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: Have you seen any sit down interviews at all with 52 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: Barry Bonds, you know? And we had him for what 53 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: ten minutes? I don't think, so I don't think we've 54 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: had any and he was awesome. 55 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: I saw him in Rickwood, right him and I think, Griffy, 56 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: maybe we're together. And it was real quick though on Fox, 57 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: and they did the Rickwood game luster because Willie had 58 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: just passed, and so they had Barry there and did 59 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: a whole thing. But that's the first time and we 60 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: were super lucky. So thank you Berry if you see this, 61 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: because I know you watch our clips, because you showed 62 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: me on your phone you had my clips and he 63 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: told me he said that I was telling the truth. 64 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: So thank you about some of those stories. But I 65 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: haven't seen him do a sit down anything, and it's 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: been years and years, and I think one of the 67 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: reasons he did is obviously I played with him, but 68 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: he also knows he can trust us on the show 69 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: because we're not going to put him in a situation 70 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: that puts him in a bad spot. And he was 71 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: very open about a lot of stuff. And if you 72 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: haven't seen the video, you watch it tomorrow. And if 73 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: you ever want to know anything about hitting, I mean, 74 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: in ten minutes he gave like his five biggest keys 75 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: to hitting. It was pretty incredible. 76 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awesome. And then there was news too 77 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: over the weekend. We hit some of that during the 78 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: award show. But let's rerack it right now, because we've 79 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: got a trade. Let's charge. 80 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: Let's charge about. 81 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: Cubs got themselves a little closer. Cratzy Ryan Presley from 82 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: Houston over to Chicago. He waves the no trade and 83 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: Chandler Rome has been all over this story. Crush City 84 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: Territories got episodes up. They're going to do a combo 85 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: episode with North Side Territories if you want to learn 86 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: a lot more about how this impacts the Cubs, how 87 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: it impacts Houston. Kratz Presley's bona fide clutch. Obviously maybe 88 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: not the same exact stuff as it was from a 89 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: few years ago, but this is the part that stands 90 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: out that we're looking at on the screen right now. 91 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: Gave up a low level prospect the Cubs did, and 92 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: then pick up their closer plus five and a half 93 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: million dollars to cover some of the fourteen. So they 94 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: just got themselves an eight and a half million dollar 95 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: closer that I guess. You know, you could put that 96 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: price on the marketplace, and I would have been surprised 97 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: if Ryan Presley was a free agent and got just 98 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: one season in eight and a half milt. But that's 99 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: what the market says. I mean, clearly, if a team 100 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 3: called them and said, i'll give you know, I'll pick 101 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: up twelve out of fourteen, the Astros would have entertained 102 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: the conversation. I'm surprised that the value is there for Presley, 103 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: and I think he's going to have a monster year 104 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: for the Cubs. 105 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: I mean, yes, the stuff isn't there, but the results 106 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: are still there and you can never Obviously, the Cubs 107 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: with this move, with the Tucker move, I think they 108 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: want to make the playoffs, whether we think they'd did 109 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 4: enough or not. Solidifying the closer role, let alone at 110 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: eight and a half million dollars, Like Mom, Bridou must 111 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: be a stud because to me, if I'm another team, 112 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: I'm sitting there going we need a closer, want a closer, 113 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: whatever our situation is, how did we not get an 114 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: opportunity at this like this seems this seems like a 115 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: really sweet deal for the Cubs, and good job by 116 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: Presley was still wanting to be a closer, being okay, 117 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: leaving his home, leaving where he spends essentially all the 118 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 4: time except for spring training. 119 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: My biggest thing is is this free money for them 120 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: bigle get Alex Pregman. Why do they need to trade 121 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: Ryan Presley. I didn't feel like this was a necessity 122 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: unless they went up there offered Alex Pregman and try 123 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: to get him to come back. That's the only thing 124 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: I can see this for. Presley's been a valuable guy. 125 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: I know he wasn't happy once they got hater, but 126 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: he still done a nice job for him going to 127 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: the Cubs. He's gonna slide right into the ninth inning 128 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: in his free agent year again. So and he got 129 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 2: a little money to you know, work the tax stuff out. 130 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: And he got another no trade. So he just because 131 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: he got traded, he still gets the no trade in Chicago. 132 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: So this was a win win for Ryan Presley and 133 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: if the astros, if it helps him get Alex Pregman, 134 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: this was a good trade for the astros. 135 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 5: As an athlete, I care about what I put in 136 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 5: my body, especially when it comes to protein. But can 137 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 5: we also get some protein. 138 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: That tastes good? 139 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: Come on, it's twenty twenty five, Todd. 140 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: That's why this podcast is sponsored by or Gain. 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Chandler Rome referred to what you're talking 159 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: about this morning as the astro is shopping him the 160 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: entire offseason. So he was like, it's not as if 161 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: they're at the one yard line. They've got this deal 162 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: with Bregman. They just have to trade away Presley and 163 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: free up some extra money for twenty twenty five. But 164 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: I am with you that still could happen, right, It 165 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: was still help right. This has been a. 166 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Free agent all off season and they've been trying to 167 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: trade Ryan Presley all off season. Alex bregmant, Yeah, I mean, 168 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: of course he calls his perturn. But every this is 169 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: called negotiations, right as re engagement calls the potential return along. Yeah, 170 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: you know what that's called negotiations through the media. Yeah, 171 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: it's crack. I mean, come on, let's be honest here. 172 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: It puts a hole in the bullpen, but if the 173 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: hole is filled by Alex Pregnant, it'll work. I just 174 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: don't know why they would trade Brian Presley when they 175 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: had a bray you Presley Hater seventy nine. Now they 176 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: got to find somebody to fill that role. Who will 177 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 2: be I don't know, maybe they'll go on sign somebody 178 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: if they don't sign Alex Bringer, but it's getting to 179 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: be kind of slim pickens. 180 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I mean, in my Minecrats, I think the 181 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: Astros feel like they're still in good shape with their bullpen. 182 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: Whether that's accurate or not. I mean, this was set 183 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: in stone for them. If someone's going to take X 184 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: amount of money and Ryan Presley's going to say, okay, 185 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: then we're going to do this. So here's what we're 186 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: looking at. And obviously the two at the top stand out. 187 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: A ton Josh Hater is one of the best closers 188 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: in baseball. Brian and Brew has been one of the 189 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: best relievers in the sport for the last few seasons. 190 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: And then there are a lot of names that have 191 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: some potential but don't necessarily scary it here. I mean, 192 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: I think Ord had a nice year last year, right, 193 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: Taylor Scott was really good for them last year. So 194 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: I think they figure that they're going to be able 195 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: to piece this together because some organizations are really good 196 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: at building bullpens. And some organizations generally don't do a 197 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: good job. Houston's been pretty solid in that department for 198 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: a while, which is part of why they've been so 199 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: good over the past decade plus. It's probably the most 200 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: underrated part of what they put together. Everyone knows the core, 201 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: you know, everyone knows some of the big name starters. 202 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: But if you have an absolute crap bullpen for years, 203 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: it's not working. And up until Hater just now, it's 204 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: not like they were spending like crazy to put this 205 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: bullpen together. They took care of the guys they were 206 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: supposed to take care of. Ryan Presley is one of them, 207 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: and they also made a mistake with Rafael Montero, who 208 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: has not worked out for them since that big season 209 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: when they won the World Series in twenty twenty two. 210 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: But I think they're not concerned based on past success 211 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: that they've had with their arms. 212 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: That's that's a big thing. What do the Astros do, 213 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 4: if you sum it up, besides winning, They don't strike 214 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: out when they're hitting, and they strike everybody out when 215 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: they're pitching. So if they felt like they could get 216 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: rid of Presley, because it's really only coming down to 217 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: eight and a half million dollars. That's not even close 218 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: to what you know. You'd think you would need to 219 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 4: get another big piece, like a Bregmann piece. So if 220 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: they knew, they could get rid of Presley and put 221 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 4: somebody else in there, you know, maybe Ort. Maybe Ort 222 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: has another great year, so that's a huge pickup. Maybe 223 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 4: Montero makes the team and he figures something out. They 224 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: figure out how to minimize strikeouts when they're hitting and 225 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: to maximize strikeouts when they're pitching, so they feel like 226 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: they can cover it. I guess because they have a closer. 227 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: They have a bona fide closer in Josh Hater who's 228 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 4: willing to throw two innings too, So it's kind of 229 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: a new piece for him in there. 230 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: All right, So then let's get to the next layer. 231 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: Let's push photo. 232 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: But I disagree with that. I disagree with that, because 233 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 2: those guys are improving, we should the list. I mean, 234 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: those guys aren't proving guys like like Ryan, like Presley was, 235 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: like Ryan Presley was, So I mean, I bring you 236 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: and Hater and and the rest of Fort Whitley was 237 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: a big prospect never really panned out, got hurt. The 238 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: rest of these guys aren't really proven guys or it's 239 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: been around a little bit. Montero is you know, but 240 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: didn't they defa him last year or didn't they. 241 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Do something to him? Right? 242 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, you know, it would look nice 243 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 2: there may Tow would look nice coming back there Isn't he. 244 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: Still a free agent? 245 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: I think he's still out there. I mean, he did 246 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: really well for them, he'd be a nice fit for them. 247 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: I just I just don't think this. I mean, I 248 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: think this opens a money five and a half million, 249 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: I get that, but I mean that's five and a 250 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: half million more they can offer Alex Pregman, maybe on 251 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: a short term deal. 252 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: Maybe Bragmant comes back for one year. 253 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. But I just don't know why Houston 254 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: would do this unless Ryan Presley was that unhappy. 255 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: I think I think they know what they have. I 256 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: think they know what they have in those unproven pieces. 257 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: I don't I don't see Ryan Presley being that upset. 258 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: But hey, you know what, or we're obviously just just 259 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: conjecture because we don't know what he's feeling. But to me, 260 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: they have to know what they have. It's similar to 261 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: a team that's claiming a lot of guys Like if 262 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: they bring these guys in, they feel like the opportunity 263 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: for them to have success in a pen iss soon 264 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: better than what they had in Presley. But you just can't. 265 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: I hate to see the Astros make it to the 266 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: playoffs and be like, yeah, let's go like, we got 267 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: a bray you, we got Hater, we got press Uh, okay, 268 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 4: we got a bray you and we got Hater. Like 269 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: that was formidable. Three guys that covers four innings for 270 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: you in the playoffs for a long time. 271 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: I think, you know, Presley picked it up as the 272 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: season went on, but even a spot I mentioned like 273 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: it was tough for him to lose that role, and 274 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 3: technically he didn't do anything to lose that role. They 275 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: just ended up buying a nice shiny gem off the 276 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 3: free agent market. All right, two more parts here real quick. 277 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: I want to get to the Cubs bullpen because I 278 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: feel much better now about the Cubs bullpen. They have 279 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 3: some good arms there. Porter Hodge's a beast, and he 280 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: looked down the stretch. I just I don't want him closing. 281 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: You know. Nate Pearson's always had talent and been one 282 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: of the top prospect arms for a while, but couldn't 283 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: stay on the field and then you know, had difficulty 284 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: with his command in the bigs. But he's got good stuff. 285 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 3: There's some other names that we've known there for a while. Merriweather, 286 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: Caleb Theelbar's been hanging around the league for a while 287 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: and bounced back down the stretch last year and was 288 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: picked up by the Cubs. Kegan Thompson been in that 289 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: system for a while. So I just feel much better 290 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: now with Presley at the top of this list, AJ 291 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: and feel like what was a weakness for the Cubs 292 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: could at least be more mid level, right, a good 293 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: enough bullpen for them to compete again. 294 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is because of the division they're in. For me, 295 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: That's why Presley's a nice end at the at the end. 296 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: Pearson has been a guy that the Blue Jay's hyped 297 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: up forever and ever Thel Barr had a down year 298 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: last year for the Twins. I just I don't know. 299 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: I think I would love to see another established guy 300 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: come in there for the Cubs, and Pressey's a nice touch, 301 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: but I'd love to see one more or veteran guy 302 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: come in and solidify the seventh, the sixth, seventh or 303 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: eighth inning for them because bullpens I keep saying this, 304 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: but they're one of the most volatile units in baseball. 305 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: One year you could have the greatest bullpen of all time, 306 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: and the next year for the same guys with the 307 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: same stuff and the same roles, and they don't do 308 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: it as well, and you just can't ever figure it out. 309 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: Tyson Millers, Tyson Miller's got some nice numbers, but it's 310 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: not a lot of punch outs. But what are the 311 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: Cubs do well? They field the ball, So you know what, 312 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: if you're gonna build that bullpen, maybe it doesn't look 313 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: like doesn't look like the just absolute punch out city. 314 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: But to me, there's too much. Ah, you know, we're 315 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 4: really leaning on this guy. I haven't bounced back Nate 316 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: Pearson to like like his career has been exactly what 317 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 4: AJ said, like pumped up from the Blue Jays. Maybe 318 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: he has success with his you know, flatter fastball in 319 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: the bullpen that guys were seeing when he was starting. 320 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 4: Julie Merriweather's coming off of injury, he had one year 321 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: where he was dominant. He could be your eighth inning. 322 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 4: There's just a lot of could bees should be How 323 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: is Craig Council going to do it, No idea, but 324 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: he was a master at it with in Milwaukee, and 325 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 4: he's got to be able to have somebody at the end, 326 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 4: which he didn't have the last few years. Alas I, 327 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: Al whatever his name is, Lazole, thank you was he 328 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: was down there and they just they ran him to 329 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 4: death for a while and it was just like, you 330 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: can't keep doing that. And now they have a solid 331 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: veteran piece. He just need to keep getting more pieces 332 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: in there. Like AJ said, I'd like to see maybe 333 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 4: one more. We just said with phil Aton, he knows 334 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: what he's doing down there. 335 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Al'sai by the way, signed a minor league deal 336 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: with the Mets, two year contract and he's coming back 337 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: from Tommy Johnson. He was money though a couple of 338 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: years ago for them and then kind of fell apart. 339 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: All right, last layer here. Do we think that the 340 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: Houston Ashers are going to now reunite with Alex Bregman. 341 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: We talked a lot about this over the weekend. Ken 342 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: Rosenthal kind of hinted that he's feeling it. I listened 343 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: to him again talk about it on Fair Territory. But 344 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: how the positioning will get a little weird, and Ken 345 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: kind of made a case for Bregman to join them 346 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: and potentially look at playing him at second base instead 347 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: of at third, keeping parties at third base. We'll see 348 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: one other layer before you comment here. Aj Alex Spear 349 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: from Weei, who covers the Red Sox, said that the 350 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: Socks are still talking to Bregman's camp, but they only 351 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,119 Speaker 3: want a short term agreement aka no longer than four years. 352 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, if Chandler Rome, who has told us that 353 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: the sixth year one fifty six mili is still out there, 354 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: is correct, why the hell would he take a four 355 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: year deal from Boston unless they're planning on giving him 356 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: four years two hundred. So I think chances are lining 357 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: up that he's either going to Houston or Detroit. But 358 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: if Detroit hasn't gotten him since then, I think Houston's 359 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: in play and he might go back there for you know, 360 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: maybe it's six one sixty something so that they could 361 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: say all this time wasting from the six peint fifty 362 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: six was worth it. And there's a couple deferrals that 363 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: basically make it the same price as what they offered 364 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: two months ago. 365 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I love that. For them to do that, 366 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: I think it would be great. I think Alex Brigman 367 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: is the guy that came up with the Astros, drafted 368 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: by the Astros, has been with the Astros his entire career, 369 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: has been through the good times and the bad times. 370 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: Whatever those bad times are. Whatever the people want to say. 371 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 2: You know, whatever they did in seventeen in those years, 372 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: they did it, okay, But he's been through it all. 373 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: He's won, He's been a proven veteran winner for him, 374 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: and I think he should stay an Astro for his 375 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: entire career. Now that's the softy in me. But at 376 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 2: the same time, if the Detroit Tigers and someone he 377 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: knows about, aj Hinch come to them and say, hey, 378 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna blow you out of the water, he's gonna leave. 379 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: So do I think the door's open. I think it's 380 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: more open than it was a couple days ago once 381 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: Presley got traded. Do I think he's gonna end up 382 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: back there? We all know how Scott Boris works, so 383 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: we'll see. I think Bragman once ultimately probably wants to 384 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: go back there, but he also wants to get fair 385 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: market value. 386 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: That's where it's going to be interesting. 387 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: I think they get them. I think they get them. 388 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: I don't think it is a perfect fit with the 389 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 4: defensive alignment. But I'm afraid unless somebody like like the 390 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: Jays were to jump in. You know, we don't know 391 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: about that. We haven't heard about them. I just don't 392 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 4: feel like we just heard about Boston. I don't feel 393 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: like the Tigers really want to go that long either. 394 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: Old Hobby Baya is hangover. I just I think it's 395 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 4: gonna end up being the Astros. It could be that 396 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 4: six years. It also could be like a six year 397 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: with a opt out after the first year, so he 398 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 4: can say, you know what, I think I deserve more. 399 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: I think the market would give me more. We'll see 400 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: what happens. 401 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: Ready for this, Bregman signs with Houston. Astros trade parades 402 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 3: to a team that needs a third baseman because there's 403 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 3: still a few of them, maybe even back to Detroit 404 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: or Boston. They get an outfielder because they need an outfielder, 405 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 3: so book it. Okay, that's the next week. 406 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: No, but no, no, they don't need an outfielder. If 407 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: Josel two they slides out to the outfield. 408 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: I know, but I want to stack. I want Bragman 409 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: at third. 410 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: You want Paris Bat in that lineup? I want parides 411 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: Bat eighty one times in minime or not it's called minime, 412 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: whatever it's called now. 413 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: Dyking yeah, dyk in park Yeah. But anyway, I could 414 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: see it happening because also they would want to clear 415 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: some money and Parade just getting paid a decent rate 416 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: YouTube fan. We're hanging out with you in the chat 417 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 3: today as usual, Brandon threw this out there and I 418 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I might as well bring 419 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: it up now. He goes, Michael King on the block 420 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 3: two for the padres. I don't know if you guys 421 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: caught this yet, but we'll ask Ken when he's on 422 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: in the next day or two. In Ken's notes column 423 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: this morning in The Athletic, he said that starting pitching 424 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: trades could be holding up the market a bit for 425 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 3: a number of mid tier starters that are still available 426 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: on the market. There's like a pretty good list of 427 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: names still available, so he mentioned the trade candidates as Castillo, 428 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: Dylan Ces and Michael King. 429 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: Oh, by Michael King, Michael King doesn't make sense, su 430 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: Steel servant. Why Michael King? Is there something we're missing here? 431 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 3: With old Michael, he's I think this is his free 432 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 3: agent year or no, and it's making this and that 433 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: he's gonna go to ARB and it's gonna be seven 434 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 3: or eight million bucks. But to me, this is kind 435 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 3: of starting to tell the picture of what's going on 436 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: with the Padres. Okay, there was a report that they're 437 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 3: not going to significantly cut payroll and be outside of 438 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: the top ten, but their projected payroll right now is 439 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: thirty million dollars over the eleventh place team on payroll 440 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: in the Diamondback, So obviously they can still do some 441 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 3: pretty significant cutting and they would be in the top 442 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: ten in payroll. So to me, it's meaning that they're 443 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 3: not going to add much and if anything, they might 444 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 3: subtract one of those names from the starting rotation. That's 445 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: a problem. 446 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 4: You think they've you think they've looked into like getting 447 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: rid of somebody else's contract, like one of those big contracts, 448 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 4: and there's just no traction out there because you can't 449 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: just keep you can't keep all these guys on the roster. 450 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: They're making that huge amount of money and keep cut cutting. 451 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: To me, what I think are bargains they're cutting, not 452 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: that they're cutting them. Sorry, if they get rid of Cease, 453 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: he's a bargain for I think he's twelve or thirteen 454 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: million for this year. If they get rid of Michael Kings, 455 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: they straight them, must they get rid of them? Eight 456 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 4: something to dude was seventh in Cy Young voting like 457 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: he had legitimate top ten Cy Young votes here, and 458 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 4: you would be getting rid of them like that. I 459 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 4: feel like that's weird, unless maybe hopefully they would be 460 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 4: throwing one of those higher contract guys in and then 461 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 4: maybe it makes a little more sense. But man, it 462 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 4: just it's just weird to me. Yeah, that's what he said. 463 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: That's what he said. 464 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 465 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: That's what he said. They had amazing day this past 466 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 3: week and that's the fan fest for the Mets. Apparently 467 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: they hadn't done it in years, I think maybe five years, 468 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: and it sounded like it was a great event, So 469 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: they should do it. All teams should do their fan 470 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 3: fests as often as possible. Please. But Steve Cohen did 471 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: something that most owners would never do. He addressed a 472 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 3: current free agency situation. As Mets fans were chanting, we 473 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: want Pete, we want Pete, Steve Cohen was like, hold up, 474 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 3: hold up, and we have what he said here. It is. 475 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 5: All right. 476 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 6: We've put you know, we've made a significant offer to 477 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 6: Pete and and you know what David says, correct, he's 478 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 6: entitled to go out and explore his market, and that's 479 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 6: what he's doing. Personally, this has been an exhausting conversation 480 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 6: and negotiation. I mean, so noo was tough. This is worse, okay, 481 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 6: and and a lot of it is. You know, we've 482 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 6: made a significant I don't like the structures that are 483 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 6: being presented back to us. I think it's highly asymmetric 484 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 6: against us, and and I feel strongly about it. And 485 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 6: so you know, I will never say no. You know, 486 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 6: there's always the possibility. But the reality is, you know, 487 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 6: we're moving forward, and you know, we continue to bring 488 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 6: in players. As we continue to bring in players, the 489 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 6: reality is, you know, it becomes harder to fit Pete 490 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 6: into ah, you know what is a very expensive you know, 491 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 6: uh group of players that we already have and. 492 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: And very interesting, very interesting. 493 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: You know what he just said, We don't really want 494 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: Pete that bad because if he wanted Pete that beat, 495 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: he'd go out and do with so you do with 496 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: Sodo and go get them U. I don't know, it 497 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: was interesting. Why is it exhausting, Steve? You know, Cohen, 498 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: Steve go, why why is it exhausting to you? You 499 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: because Boris is trying to negotiate with you hard. I 500 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: mean he negotiated hard with Soto, but you wanted Sodo, 501 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: so you said, okay. 502 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Now you're you're like, uh, you know, Pete, we like 503 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: you and the fans love you. You've done a lot 504 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: of good things here. But he already said it he 505 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: didn't really fit with the roster we have. 506 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: Now. 507 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: This sounded like David Stearns in for the first time, 508 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: and Steve Cohen's here saying, you know, we don't need 509 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: to spend all the money in the world. If he 510 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: wants to cover here on a lesser deal, we'll take 511 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: him back. But if he doesn't get what he wants, 512 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: we're also okay with our roster letting him walk away. 513 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 4: I just think it's exactly what you said. He doesn't 514 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: want to I don't really want Pete that bad. Pete 515 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 4: wants to be there. Maybe Pete doesn't have have all 516 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 4: of the looks that he's saying they have, or maybe 517 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: he's like I don't really want to go to Toronto 518 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: or another mister team that's asking him or offering him something. 519 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 4: But to me, is Coen gonna get in trouble for this? 520 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: Because I know a GM can't talk about free agents? 521 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: Our owner's allowed to do this. Is he gonna get 522 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: in trouble because you can't? 523 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 3: No, he won't, Okay, no, no, no, I'll tell you no. 524 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 3: There's an explanation here. Will he get in trouble? 525 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 6: No? 526 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: Is he allowed to talk like this? It's very questionable. 527 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 3: It was in Ken's Notes column and he spoke about 528 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: it today on Fair Territory. Talked about how it's called 529 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: Attachment forty nine, right, and you're violating that attachment in 530 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: the CBA agreement with the league and the players in 531 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: response to pass acts of collusion by the clubs. It's 532 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 3: designed to prevent club officials from attempting to influence the 533 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 3: market through public comments and theory. Ken said this also 534 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: applies to agents. But obviously, yeah, there's been, you know, 535 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 3: discussions in the past that have led to I think 536 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: Grievance's file that doesn't usually actually happen. I personally think 537 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: that part will be a nothing burger. Crats I mean, 538 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: you do have to be super careful owners execs will 539 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: almost never go this far. But I don't think he 540 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 3: laid out too many details. He just said that they 541 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: were pissed off about out what was going on in 542 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: the negotiations right now. He didn't say, like, here's where 543 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,239 Speaker 3: the money's at and here's what we want to offer him, 544 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 3: right because if you start doing that now, you're you're 545 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: kind of giving away his market. But I don't know, 546 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 3: do you feel like on the player's side, like Pete 547 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 3: should be bothered about something like this because the owner 548 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: came out and said that the talks are about or 549 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: Aj what about you. I mean, like, let's say hit 550 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: free agency and you guys aren't coming to an agreement, 551 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 3: And then the owner of the team's like, yeah, this 552 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 3: has been a pain in the ass. 553 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: I'd be pissed. If I was Pete, I'd be pissed. 554 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, why do you got to say that publicly? 555 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: Call me, Call me, mister Cohen, Call me and tell 556 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: me that, you know, maybe we can get some done. Now, 557 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: Scot Bors will never go for this, but maybe we 558 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: can get some done between the two of us, maybe, 559 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: you know, and listen, Scott Bors has been through a lot. 560 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: He's had a great offseason. He's got a lot of 561 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: his guys son, but he's got a couple big ones 562 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: still sitting out there. One is Bregmant. One is Pete Alonso. 563 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: Where's he going to get those guys? We saw Scott 564 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: on Saturday night. He was all smiles. I mean, his 565 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: guy schoobl Once, his other guy Manaiah won Nice Guy Award. 566 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: He's made a ton of money this offseason. But you 567 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: know what, he's got two big guys sitting out there. 568 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: So if I was Scott Boris and I was Pete Alonso, 569 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: I don't want him negotiating because this is. 570 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: Negotiating through the newspaper. Negotiate with me, don't. 571 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 2: You don't need to go out there talk to me, 572 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: call me, don't don't don't go do it publicly because 573 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: you know what this does. 574 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: The fans are all we want Pete, we want Pete. 575 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: Steve Cohen's trying to get ahead of him and saying, well, 576 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: this is why Pete's a bad guy. 577 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: And Pete's not really doing this. 578 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: You know he's bad negotiating Like whatever, No, just just 579 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: do this with me. You don't need to see you 580 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: know what he should have said, you know what, we 581 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: want Pete back. Also, hopefully we can get a deal done. Boom, 582 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: it kills it. 583 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: It's over. 584 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: But instead he says what he says, and he get 585 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: Boris riled up, you get Pete riled up, and you 586 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: get the fans railed up. 587 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's gone. I think this actually helps 588 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 3: on some closure for Pete to be like, Okay, I 589 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: see where we're going here. All right, let's get to 590 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: Jim Bowden posting about the Scott Boris comments and just 591 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: more about the situation, you know. He said it was 592 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: interesting to hear Cohen concerned about the structure. He said 593 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: optats have been commonplace like Bellinger, snow l Rodon, et cetera. 594 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 3: Oftentimes gms, not players use biots to defer money to 595 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: another year for accounting purposes. Because there was some confusion here, 596 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: I'm jumping in with some of the local radio like 597 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 3: not understanding how baseball contracts work. But he was referred 598 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: to how the Cubs moved five MILI of the Bellinger 599 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: deal as a buyout of the opt out year, but 600 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 3: really it was thirty two and a half million dollars 601 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: it's just good accounting on teams to be able to 602 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 3: pay a little bit more of that towards the end 603 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: of the year. Contract structure is an easy barrier to 604 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: overcome for both sides. It's always mostly about money, not structure. 605 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: Let's show will Salmon two here with the reply from Boris. 606 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: So Scott Boris publicly came out right after that and 607 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: said that the free agent contract structure request is identical 608 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: to the standards and practices of other clubs who have 609 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: signed similarly situated, qualifying off or All star level players. 610 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: Nothing different, just established fairness standards guys. For me, I 611 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 3: just think the Mets have drawn their line. They don't 612 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 3: want him that badly, and if he's got a better offer, 613 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: go run. I saw this coming for a year. You know, 614 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: it's not the type of long term contract that the 615 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: current general manager is interested in. And if you go 616 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: a little further back, when the Mets were looking for 617 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 3: a GM, right this was before the David Stearns run, 618 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: there were a lot of people turning down having a conversation. 619 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: So I think part of that is you got to 620 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: tell a GM like, hey, you're going to get some 621 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: power here to be able to make decisions, and I 622 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: want you to challenge me and say no, I don't 623 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: want you to fall in love with a player based 624 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: on the marketing. I'll also make it clear I freaking 625 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: love Pete. He's a legend here, you know, at a 626 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: young age, really in New York. He had an awesome postseason. 627 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: He had the biggest moment of the year for the Mets. 628 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: But David Stearns is going to act in his way, 629 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: practice likematically, based on what his past processes was. That's 630 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: just what's happening here. So if there's a better offer, 631 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: go grab it and beat the crap out of your 632 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: old team and show them what they were missing. And also, 633 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: if there's a better offer with opt outs, go hit 634 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: fifty homers and go back to the market. 635 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, listen, what you said is all right, And 636 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: this is not a David Sterns type player. And Pete 637 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: is just stuck in a bad spot right now. It 638 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: just sucks for feet because he's a good guy, the 639 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: fans love him, He's had a great career as a Met. 640 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: He wants clearly to go back. 641 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: To the Mets, but sometimes it takes two. 642 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: As we've said a million times, with free agency, it 643 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: just sucks from the Mets that they don't really they 644 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: just really don't want him that badly, because again, if 645 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: they want him that badly, this would be done. Steve 646 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: Cohen has shown the propensity. When he wants a guy, 647 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: he goes and gets him. He goes out he wanted Remember, 648 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: they wanted erlin Or, they want to chers Boom boom boom. 649 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: They wanted Lindor. They won't trade it for him, right. 650 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: They wanted Soto, they went and got them. They want 651 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: him Anaya back. It's done right, So don't give me 652 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: about contract hulla balloo and this and that. It's just 653 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: all hearsays so that it makes a Pete sign somewhere else. 654 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: Eve going because I tried the best I could and 655 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: we moved on. 656 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: Yep, there you go, which you could do after he signs. 657 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: That's why. But the thing is, the fan fest pops 658 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: up and you're an owner and you're used to saying 659 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: what you want. So I love the transparency, So I'm 660 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: not gonna hate on that part. But it just seems 661 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: like it's a divorce. It's starting to get a little 662 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: bit messy. But we'll see if they come swooping through 663 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 3: they're not going to change their offer. I'm telling you that. 664 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: So if he does go back to them, it's because 665 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: he didn't get something else that he liked at that level. Anyway, 666 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: real quick, we can show this tweet from twins Fest. 667 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: I think it's called Carlos Correa was addressing the offseason. 668 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: He said, we're in a spot right now where we 669 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: cannot invest, and it is what it is. You got 670 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: to live with that, and you've got to go out 671 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: and play with the players that you have. I mean, 672 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: it was a pretty cookie cutter line. I think the 673 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 3: one part that you get out of it is, yeah, 674 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: he's pretty aware of what's going on behind the scenes. 675 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: The team is in a freeze right now. They're in 676 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 3: a pattern where they can't do anything and crats. If 677 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 3: I had to guess Krey, it probably feels crappy because 678 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: when he signed, they were like, you're going to be 679 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: one piece. We're going to keep adding to this. They 680 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: were supposed to be able to spend thirty plus mil 681 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: even from that point forward on their payroll, and they 682 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: actually had to go backwards. So by a few years later, 683 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: you would have thought maybe this team would have been 684 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: in the one seventy five million range for payroll and 685 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: instead they're I think a strict one twenty five something 686 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: like that, and they're going to get sold, hopefully by 687 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 3: opening day. But that's just the way the sale process works. 688 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: I was hating on it in the past, I'm not 689 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: hating on it now because it's just a fact the 690 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: new ownership group wants to be able to spend the 691 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: money their way, and also this is how the franchise 692 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: gets evaluation number. 693 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 4: I feel I feel like this organization vary. They communicate 694 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: really well to the players that I know that have 695 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 4: played there recently. With this front office, the way that 696 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 4: Korea said it, it felt like it was something that 697 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 4: was told to him because originally he was told, hey, 698 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 4: I'll sign this two hundred plus million dollar contract, but 699 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: then you're going to continue to invest. And they've invested 700 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 4: like nine point two million in new players since then. 701 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 4: So I feel like somebody came to him and told him, look, 702 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: we cannot and he said this, and he's moving. 703 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: On bet MGM futures. Let's look at win totals. Let's 704 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 3: cover the Chicago Cubs now at eighty six and a 705 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: half games, they get themselves a little Ryan Presley action 706 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: for the ninth inning. Kyle Tucker, of course, was the 707 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: massive addition for them. Some smaller pieces and additions as well, 708 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: Matt Boyd for a little more to the starting rotation. 709 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to go to Krats first because he's probably 710 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: less biased on this one. But you got over under 711 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 3: on the eighty six and a half for the Cubs 712 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 3: this year. 713 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: Under under. 714 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 4: It is so it is so close. Eighty six is 715 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 4: such a great number. Did they improve by Did they 716 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 4: improve by three games? Yeah? I mean you can't. You 717 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 4: can't not say, like, they definitely improved, but three more games. 718 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 4: I still think they have some weakness in their bullpen. 719 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 4: I don't think their lineup is like devastating. You had 720 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 4: Tucker in any lineup and it becomes an upgrade. I 721 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: just still think it's an under. I still don't think 722 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 4: they win the division. 723 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 724 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Oh, one sixty two the 725 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: first team ever? No, I'm just kidding. I think they're 726 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: around eighty five win team all right now. I think 727 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: they're still around an eighty five win team, which is 728 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 2: under eighty six and a half. So I'm gonna say under. 729 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 3: I'll go eighty seven eighty eight is so I'll take 730 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 3: the over on this one on a slight. 731 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: So they're going to make the playoffs. You're putting them 732 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: in the playoffs? Do they win in the playoffs? 733 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 3: I'mon Backs won how many eighty nine last year and 734 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 3: they didn't make the playoffs. I mean that's in that division. 735 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: They probably win the division. 736 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 3: The whole thing is will there be a year where 737 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 3: they're better than the Brewers? To me, it's a two 738 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 3: team race with those two Cardinals taking a step back. 739 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 3: Pirates are snoozing. 740 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 4: What the Reds I think, and I think they're third. 741 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: I think they're third behind the Reds and the Brewers. 742 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna take a slight over. I'll probably I 743 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: didn't do my whole predictions, but I'll probably end up 744 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 3: dinging the Brewers and then paying for it as usual. 745 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: But you know, it's just keep doing the same thing 746 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: over and over again. But I'm not betting on this one. 747 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: I'm not touching this one. All right, let's shover on 748 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: what they're working with here with the bigger prize pools 749 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 3: and more players involved with New Jersey and Michigan kind 750 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 3: of merging together here if you're playing poker online, so 751 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 3: go check that out at BETMGM Poker. That means bigger 752 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: prize pools that also include four hundred thousand dollars in 753 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 3: guarantees each week. Kratz and I have some online poker 754 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: tournament action coming soon. We'll give you more information on that. 755 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: If you want to play against us, and if you 756 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: have a gambling problem or concern, there's the number one 757 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 3: eight hundred CAMPLI. Speaking of things that were taken down 758 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 3: on social media, Brandon McCarthy tweeted something this weekend and 759 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: when I saw it on my notifications, I clicked it 760 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 3: and it said this post has been deleted. He tweeted 761 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: something along the lines of thank goodness for the salary 762 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: cap in the NFL so that we have all that parody, 763 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 3: and how he wants MLB to have a salary cap 764 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 3: so that they can get all that all that parody 765 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: that we see with the Kansas City Chiefs just over 766 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 3: and over again and even the Eagles, who have been 767 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: pretty damn good over the past whatever amount of years. Right, 768 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I just want re fan base 769 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: to get a chance, you know, in the Super Bowl 770 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: and in the World Series, and so we should do 771 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 3: as a sport what the NFL does, right, guys. 772 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 4: No, somebody went at me. Somebody went at me because 773 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 4: I tweeted the exact same thing. I didn't take it down. 774 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: I'm not sure why Brandon McCarthy took it down, but like, no, 775 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 4: we don't like it is not that is not what 776 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 4: enables parody. It's the teams I want to go out 777 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 4: to win, and I mean having Patrick Mahomes pretty pretty 778 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 4: good idea too. 779 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 3: I think I just found out why. I think he's 780 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 3: currently a special assistant to the GM of the Rangers. 781 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 3: You can't you can't put there if you were for 782 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: a team. Sorry, brand up your spot. 783 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: I saw that one needs to be. 784 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: He used to be very active on social media. He's 785 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: actually calmed it down a lot, and probably for the best. 786 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: I played with Brandon. Uh, there was. 787 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 4: This case. 788 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: Listen. 789 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 2: I agree with him because, Yeah, the Chiefs are in 790 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, what five the last six years, going 791 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: for winning three in a row. The Eagles were there 792 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: two years ago, they're back again, and crowds. I'll say this. 793 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 2: I don't say this often, but I'm actually rooting for 794 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: your squad. 795 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: In two weeks. 796 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 2: I'd like to see I'd like to see Sirianni kind 797 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: of shove it up the Eagles fans, you know what, 798 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 2: because they were calling for him kind of to be 799 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: fired after last year. And he's back in the Super 800 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: Bowl with Jalen Hurts and Saquon and that whole crew, 801 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: and you know what would be cool. As they're celebrating 802 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: AJ Brown, he pulls out a book. 803 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: You know what the book should be. 804 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: I got an idea. He should pull out this book 805 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 2: and be reading it on the sideline so that everybody 806 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: gets an idea. 807 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 4: Yep, that's how the women. 808 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, wait on, you spot laid that 809 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 3: that's the solution. You at least would like to point 810 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 3: to something and be like, see, that's the solution. Right, 811 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: this is the dream right here. This league's getting all 812 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 3: the parody, all the different super Bowl combinations, and it's like, 813 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 3: uh now, all right, let's slap crats hats. What are 814 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 3: we rocking today? 815 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 4: I mean, minor league seeds are starting too. So Wisconsin 816 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: timber Rattlers. This is the one they sent me. It's 817 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 4: their news, their new logo. I think they wear it 818 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 4: on like Thursdays. And Sundays or something. Pretty legit group 819 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 4: of hats that they got. I never played there, but 820 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 4: they sent it to me, and. 821 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 3: That's all that matters. You send a hat to Krats, 822 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 3: he's probably gonna wear it. Hey to go over some 823 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: of what the did you? 824 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 2: I played there? I played against him. They had some 825 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,439 Speaker 2: guy named David Areas. I don't know. He turned into 826 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 2: some other guy named David Ortiz. Copy also also got 827 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: mono nucleosis there. So don't drink the water. 828 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: Kids from mono. 829 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 4: I don't think that you get water. I don't think 830 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 4: I tell you got the motto, but water fountain. 831 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: Out of the water fountain, the water fountain. It was 832 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: a water founain. Back we had water fountains. 833 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 4: Don't put your lips in the water fountain. 834 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: That's my roommate in My roommate ended up getting we kissed, 835 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 2: so I don't know how. 836 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 4: He got it. 837 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 3: You ever share a water 838 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: Bottle, probably somewhere a long yea and those long bucks 839 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: will do it.