1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 2: He's heard on News. 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 3: Talk eleven and ninety nine point three WBT and Charlotte, 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 3: North Carolina. 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Please welcome Brett Winterble filling in for Clay and Buck. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 4: And it is a pleasure to be here with you 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 4: on this auspicious occasion, Thanksgiving. And you know, when you 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 4: think back about all the Thanksgivings you've experienced, you think 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 4: about the people who had the biggest impacts on your life, 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 4: And certainly one of the biggest impacts in my life 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: was Rush. And I thought it would be very fitting 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 4: to be the person to get to do this in 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 4: this in this way, I want to go to eleven, 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: twenty seven nineteen, So that's November twenty seven, twenty nineteen, 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 4: and it is Rush Limbaugh telling the story of Thanksgiving, 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 4: Part one, the journey. 18 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: Find what you were taught about Thanksgiving that I was 19 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: taught a version that goes like this. The pilgrim showed 20 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: up and they were incompetence. They were well intentioned, good 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: hearted people in common, they didn't know how to do anything, 22 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: and they were stumbling and bumbling around in a foreign place. 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: They had no idea even where they were. And as 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: they're on the verge of starvation, the Indians stumbled across them, 25 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: across them and showed them how to basically live, gave 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: them everything, showed them how to grow crops and kill 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: turkey and build tepees and stuff. And so the pilgrim survived, 28 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: and that we were giving thanks. That thanksgiving is to 29 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: acknowledge the Indians role in saving the first Pilgrims, not 30 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: to quaint story. And it has attached itself to a 31 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: number of people, but it is nothing to do. Well, 32 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: I can't say that it's nothing to do, but it 33 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: is very far removed from what the first Thanksgiving is 34 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: really a thanksgiving. George Washington first proclaimed it thanksgiving. Well, 35 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: who was thanking who for what? That's the root of 36 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: the error. The root of it is that the Pilgrims 37 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: must have been giving thanks to the Indians for saving them. 38 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: That's not what the Pilgrims were thankful for. As you 39 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: will soon hear, the story of the Pilgrims begins in 40 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: the early part of the seventeenth century sixteen hundreds for 41 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: those of you in Rio London, the Church of England 42 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: under King James the first was secuting anyone and everyone 43 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: who did not recognize its absolute civil and spiritual authority. 44 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: The first Pilgrims were Christian rebels, folks. Those who challenged 45 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: King james ecclesiastical authority and those who believe strongly in 46 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: freedom of worship were hunted down, imprisoned, and sometimes executed 47 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: for their religious beliefs. In England in the sixteen hundreds, 48 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: a group of separatists Christians who didn't want to buy 49 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: into the Church of England or living under the living 50 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: of the rule of King James fled to Holland and 51 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: established a community among themselves there for eleven years. After 52 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: eleven years, about forty of them, having heard about this 53 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: new world Christopher Columbus and discovered forty of them decided 54 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: to go. Forty of them agreed to make a perilous 55 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: journey to what was called a new world, where they 56 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: knew they would face hardships, but the reason they did 57 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: it so they could live and worship God according to 58 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: their own beliefs and consciences. On the first of August 59 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: sixteen twenty, the Mayflower set sail one hundred and two passengers, 60 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: forty of them Pilgrims. Now known as Pilgrims. They were 61 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: led by a man named William Bradford. Now on the journey, 62 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: William Bradford set up an agreement, a contract that established 63 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: how they would live once they got there. Tract set 64 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: forth just and equal laws for all members of the 65 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: new community, irrespective of political or religious beliefs. The revolutionary 66 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: ideas expressed in the Mayflower Compact are derived straight from 67 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: the Bible. The Pilgrims were a devoutly religious people, completely 68 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: steeped in lessons about the Old and New Testaments, among others. 69 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: They looked at the ancient Israelites for examples, and because 70 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: of the biblical precedence set forth in scripture, they never 71 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: doubted that their experiment would work. They believed in God. 72 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: They believe they were in the hands of God. As 73 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, is not a pleasure cruise. The journey to 74 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: the New World on a tiny by today's standage ship 75 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: sailing ship. It was long, it was arduous, There was sickness, 76 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: there was seasickness. It was cold, it was wet, the 77 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: exact opposite of anything you think of today as a 78 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: cruise on the open ocean. When they landed in New 79 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: England in November, they found, according to William Bradford's journal, 80 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: a cold, barren, desolate wilderness. There were no friends to 81 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: greet them, he wrote. There were no houses to shelter them. 82 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: There were no inns where they could refresh themselves. There 83 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: was nothing. The sacrifice they made for freedom was just beginning. 84 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: During the first winter, half of the pilgrims, including William 85 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: Bradford's own wife, died either starvation, sickness, or exposure. They 86 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: endured that first winter. When spring finally came, they had 87 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: by that time met the indigenous peoples, the Indians, and 88 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: the Indians indeed taught settlers how to plant corn, how 89 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: to fish, how to skin beavers and other animals for coats, 90 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: and life improved, but there wasn't any prosperity. They did 91 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: not yet prosper They were still dependent, they were still confused. 92 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: They were still in a new place, essentially alone among 93 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: like minded people. Now it's important to understand all this 94 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: because this is where the modern American history lessons often end. 95 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is explained that a lot of textbooks as a 96 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: holiday for which the pilgrims gave thanks to the Indians 97 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: for saving their lives instead of what it really was. 98 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: Now that happened. Don't misunderstand that all happened, but that's 99 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: not from William Bradford's own journal. What they ultimately gave thanks. 100 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: For that is a rush. Part one the journey coming 101 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: up in just a little bit. We'll get to the 102 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: part of part two, the Plymouth Colony. This is such 103 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: an important piece of American history, but really, broadly speaking, 104 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: that the history of all of us. Without without this 105 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: charting that we're seeing, we wouldn't we wouldn't know this story. 106 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: And it's it's a special special thing to hear this, 107 00:08:54,400 --> 00:09:00,239 Speaker 4: especially in his voice, with his with his style. 108 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: Including references to Rio Linda. You know, not to not. 109 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: To take this to any much of a silly place, 110 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: but there are some very strange Thanksgiving traditions that exist 111 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: out there. Turkey bowling. Did you ever hear about turkey bowling? 112 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: It involves using a frozen turkey as a bowling ball 113 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: and soda bottles as pins. Started in Newport Newport Beach, 114 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: California and has become a fun, albeit unusual Thanksgiving activity. 115 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: Turkey bowling. 116 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 4: How about turkey tossing? They have that in Indianapolis, Indiana. 117 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: People dress turkeys and baby onesies douse them in light 118 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 4: lighter fluid and then throw them across a football field. 119 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: It's bizarre, but it's entertaining. It's just amazing how the 120 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: how the society evolves. Then you've got frozen turkey bowling 121 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: at the University of Wisconsin lacrosse. They they have an 122 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 4: annual event where people bowl with rosen turkeys, a quirky 123 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: way to raise money to combat smoking. And then, of course, 124 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: we have as everybody knows, we see it, we saw 125 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: it last week, and that is the presidential turkey pardon. 126 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 4: Since the nineteen forties, the presidents have been pardoning turkeys, 127 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 4: sparing it from becoming dinner. The turkey is then sent 128 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: to live out its stays at Mount Vernon, George Washington's 129 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: former estate, have turkey eating competitions. Some people will sit 130 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: back and eat turkey, trying to eat as much of 131 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: a twenty pound turkey as possible. My gosh, you're going 132 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: to sleep for another six months. Thanksgiving masking, how about that? 133 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 4: You heard of that one? In the nineteenth century, people 134 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 4: would dress up in costumes and masks on Thanksgiving, similar 135 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 4: to Halloween. The tradition eventually evolved. 136 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: Into ragamuffin day. Whoever heard of ragamuffin Day? I don't know. 137 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 4: And then finally, for your consideration, pi throwing because you 138 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: can eat the pie or you can throw the pie. 139 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: Pie throwing. 140 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 4: Some families have a tradition of throwing pies at each 141 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 4: other after the Thanksgiving meal, leading to a fun and 142 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 4: messy dessert fight. 143 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: Why are you doing that that? That's one. 144 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 4: That's one that I'm just I'm out on. I would 145 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: be one hundred percent out on that whole deal. Coming 146 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: up bottom of the hour, second part of Rush, and 147 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: of course the story of Thanksgiving. 148 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm Brett Winterval. You're listening to the Clay and Buck Show. 149 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: Back after this, Clay TRAVISI you are happy Thanksgiving from 150 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: all of us at the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 151 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: And I am Brett Witavile in for Clay and Buck today. 152 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: It is great to be with you. 153 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: Our telephone number, taking your phone calls eight hundred two 154 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 4: two two eight A two and a big round of 155 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: applause for the great people who are making this happen today, 156 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: Greg and Ali and Mike Maimon. It's just great to 157 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: be here. Let's go and talk to Lisa next in Huntsville, Alabama. Lisa, 158 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 4: Welcome to the show. 159 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 5: Hey, thank you, Wen, Happy Thanksgiving. And I just want 160 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 5: to really thank you for sharing these words from Rush 161 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 5: that we can use at our Thanksgiving dinner table with 162 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 5: our family to remind them that Thanksgiving is a long 163 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 5: standing tradition, not just some American fake holiday. Thank you 164 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 5: for sharing what was one of what is one of 165 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: the best stories from the Rush Limbaught Institute of Advanced 166 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 5: Conservative Studies, the Thanksgiving story. And while we're talking about 167 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 5: the traditions of the holidays, I also hope that maybe 168 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 5: we can get the tradition of listening to some Mannheim 169 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: Steamroller Christmas music because that was always a huge tradition 170 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 5: for Rush, and my heart was a little broken when 171 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 5: it ended with his passing. So maybe Clay and Buck 172 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 5: can figure out who they are and play some music 173 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: for us to keep up our traditions with Rush. 174 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: That you're very very kind saying that, and thank you 175 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 4: very much for being here, and Happy Thanksgiving. And I'm 176 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: sure that you're gonna hear some really beautiful music in 177 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 4: the season. It's going to be amazing. And I hope 178 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: you have a really blessed Thanksgiving thanks for being here. 179 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. Oh you're very welcome. 180 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 4: I look, this is what is so great because if 181 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: you think about this, right when you're listening to them 182 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 4: doing that reading, and you're listening to all that is 183 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 4: attached to that reading of the first Thanksgiving, it feels 184 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: like we're all sitting in a theater where we're all 185 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 4: sitting around a giant table and we're all experiencing it 186 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: at the same time, and it's hitting every person in 187 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 4: a different way. There are people who probably can recite 188 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 4: it almost word for word, and then there are people 189 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: who are hearing it for the first time and they're 190 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: driving around going, WHOA, that's incredible. I can't wait to 191 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: hear the second part of this. It's going to be unbelievable. 192 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: And that that's the thing that's that's always awesome. It's 193 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: always awesome. 194 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: Because there's an edification that comes from from from learning 195 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: not just information, but from learning good information. 196 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: You know. 197 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 4: Edification is like helping to build out yourself, right, app 198 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 4: helping to be a stronger person, and so we get 199 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: smarter and we get to think about this and it's 200 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: it's one of the great things, especially at this stage 201 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: of the day, right because everyone is either getting their 202 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 4: preparations ready for for Thanksgiving. People are driving to the store, 203 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 4: they're going to the market, they're coming back, they're getting 204 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 4: set up. They're getting their their kids from school or 205 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 4: or the ski kids are already and you know, out 206 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: of school. And then you've got the college kids that 207 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: are coming home and all this sort of stuff and 208 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: you have like sort of an interesting conversation you get 209 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: to have at the table talking about this. Now, look, 210 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: there's also the weird Thanksgiving foods, and we were kind 211 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: of talking about this off the air, you know, turn Ducan. 212 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: I would be willing to try it. 213 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: I've not ever tried the turn ducan. It feels like 214 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 4: it's a big it feels like it's a very big 215 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: commitment because you are using a chicken and a duck 216 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: and a turkey. I mean, you want to talk about 217 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: like wow, and it's probably fairly dense. I'm gonna guess 218 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 4: jello salad. There's people that like the jello salad. You know, 219 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: they take the jello and then they mix in that 220 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: jello vegetables like carrots and celery to create. 221 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: A salad healthy. 222 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: We gotta just call that healthy, right there? Boom winner 223 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: candy yams with marshmallows. A lot of staple there. The 224 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: combination of sweet potatoes and marshmallows. 225 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: Can't be divisive. It can be divisive, but that's how 226 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: it is. 227 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 4: How about pickle dip or stuffing flavored ice cream? 228 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: We got a sweet treat for you coming up? See 229 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: what I said there? 230 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: Coming up, We've got the second part of the Thanksgiving 231 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: story when they actually get to the point where it's 232 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: amazing and you're gonna hear it from Rush. I'm Brett Whitterble. 233 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: You are listening to the Clay and Buckshaw. 234 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: Please welcome back Brett Winterble, filling in for Clay and 235 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: buck and. 236 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: It's great to be here today, continuing our journey courtesy 237 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: of Rush the Plymouth Colony. This is part two of 238 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: the first Thanksgiving. 239 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: Here's the part this original contract that they made on 240 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: the Mayflower as they were traveling to the New World. 241 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: They actually had to enter into that contract with merchant 242 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: sponsors in London because they had no money on their own. 243 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: They needed sponsors, and that they found merchants in London 244 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: to sponsor them. The merchants in London were making an 245 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: investment and as such, the pilgrims agreed that everything they 246 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: produced would go into a common store or bank common account. 247 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: Each member of the community was entitled to one common 248 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: share in this bank, and out of this the merchants 249 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: would be repaid until they were paid off. All the 250 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: land that they cleared and all the houses they ultimately 251 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: build would belong to the community as well. Everything belonged 252 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: to everybody, and everybody had one share in it. They 253 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: were going to distribute everything equally. That was thought to 254 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: be the epitome of fairness, sharing the hardship, burdens and 255 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: all that. Nobody owned anything, they just had a share 256 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: in it. It was a commune essentially, and it was 257 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: the forerunner of the communes we saw in the sixties 258 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: and seventies in California and other parts of the country. 259 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: And it was complete. They had organic vegetables. By the way, Bradford, 260 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: who had become the new governor of this colony, recognized 261 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: that it wasn't working, It was costly, and it was destructive. 262 00:18:52,520 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: His own journals chronicle the reasons it didn't work. Bradford 263 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: assigned a plot of land to fix this to each 264 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: family to work and manage as their own. He got 265 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: rid of the whole commune structure and assigned plots of 266 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: land to each family to work and manage. And whatever 267 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: they made, however much they made, was theirs. They could 268 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: sell it, they could share it, they could keep it, 269 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: whatever they wanted to do. What really happened they turned 270 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: loose the power of a free market after enduring months 271 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: and months of hardship, first on the Mayflower and then 272 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: getting settled, and then the failure of the common account 273 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: from which everybody got. There was no incentive for anybody 274 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: to do anything. And as is human nature, some of 275 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: the pilgrims are a bunch of lazy twerps, and others 276 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: busted their rere ins, but it didn't matter, because even 277 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: the people that weren't very industrious got the same as 278 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: everybody else. And Bradford wrote about how this just wasn't working. 279 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: What Bradford and his community found, I'm going to use 280 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: his basically his own words, the most creative and industrious 281 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: people had no incentive to work any harder than anyone else. 282 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: While most of the rest of the world has been 283 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: experimenting with socialism for well over one hundred years, trying 284 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: to refine it and perfect it and reinvent it. The 285 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: Pilgrims decided early on. William Bradford decided to scrap it 286 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: permanently because it brought out the worst in human nature. 287 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: It emphasized laziness. It created resentment because in every group 288 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: of people, you've got your self starters, and you've got 289 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: your hard workers, and you've got your lazy twerbs and 290 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: so forth, and there was no difference at the end 291 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: of the day. The resentment sprang up on both sides. 292 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: So Bradford wrote about this for this community, so far 293 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: as it was was found to breed much confusion and 294 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: discontent and retard much employment that would have been to 295 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: their benefit and comfort. For young men that were most 296 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: able and fit for labor and service, did repine that 297 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: they should spend their time and strength to work for 298 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: other men's wives and children without any recompense, without any payment. 299 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: That was thought injustice. Why should you work for other 300 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: people when you can't even work for yourself? What's the point. 301 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: The Pilgrims found that people could not be expected to 302 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: do their best work without any incentive. So what did 303 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: Bradford's community try next? They harnessed the power of good 304 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: old free enterprise, they invoked the undergirding capitalistic principle of 305 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: private property. Every family was assigned its own plot of 306 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: line and work, and permitted to market its own crops 307 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: and products. And you know what happened. This had very 308 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: good success, wrote Bradford, For it made everybody industrious. So 309 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: as much more corn was planted than would have been. 310 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: Is it possible supply side economics could have existed before 311 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. In no time, the Pilgrims found they 312 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: had more food than they could eat themselves. Now this 313 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: is where it gets really good if you're laboring under 314 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: any misconception that I was as I was taught in school. 315 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: They set up trading posts. They exchanged goods with the Indians. 316 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: The profits allowed them to pay off their debts to 317 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: the merchants in London. And the success and prosperity of 318 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: the Plymouth settlement attracted more Europeans and becan what became 319 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: known as the Great Puritan Migration. The word of the 320 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: success of the free enterprise Plymouth colony spread like wildfire, 321 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: and that began the Great Migration. Everybody wanted a part 322 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: of it. There was no mass slaughtering of the Indians. 323 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: There was no wiping out of the indigenous people, and eventually, 324 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: in William Bradford's own journal, unleashing the industriousness of all 325 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: hands ended up producing more than they could ever need themselves. 326 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: So trading posts began selling an exchanging thing with the 327 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: and the Indians, by the way, were very helpful. Puritan 328 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: kids had relationships with the children of the Native Americans 329 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: that they found this killing the Indigenous people stuff. This 330 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: this they're they're talking about, much much, much, much later, 331 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the first thing. The first 332 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving was William Bradford and Plymouth Colony thanking God for 333 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: their blessings. That's the first Thanksgiving. Nothing wrong with being 334 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: grateful to the Indians, thought missus Nan. But the true 335 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: meaning of Thanksgiving. And this is what George Washington recognized 336 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: in his first Thanksgiving proclamation. 337 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: And that is the real story. So when you sit 338 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: down to your meal tomorrow and the leftovers and the 339 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 4: family is talking to you and saying, well, you know, 340 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: this is really the worst thing ever. You now know 341 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: you have been immunized in the best possible way because 342 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 4: you understand the full story. My name is Brett Winterble. 343 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: I'm in for Clay and Buck, we're gonna get a 344 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: break in. We'll be back right after this. 345 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Buck Sexton from our home to yours. 346 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: Have a wonderful Thanksgiving from the Clay and Buck Show. 347 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: And I am Bretwitable in for Clay and Buck. Thanks 348 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: so much to Claim Buck for having me in here today. 349 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 4: It's a real pleasure and I am very very grateful 350 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 4: to get to spend time with this incredible audience. 351 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for that. 352 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: Let's go out and talk to Ken, who's part of 353 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 4: the audience in Southeast Michigan. 354 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 2: Ken, Welcome to the show. What's on your mind? 355 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 6: I just wanted to share with you that I'm very 356 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 6: grateful that I discovered years ago Rush Limbaugh because thanks 357 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 6: to the education I got from Rush, he transformed me 358 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 6: from someone who at the time was an atheist, someone 359 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 6: who embraced the Communist manifesto. And what that does is 360 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 6: leads you to serve it to to the government. And 361 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 6: I became a Christian who embraces the free market system 362 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 6: and capitalism, which leads you to freedom. And I think 363 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 6: it's important for people to understand the difference between being 364 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 6: a servant, a slave subject to the government, and a 365 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 6: person who is free, and I think Russia Limbaugh for 366 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 6: the education I got. 367 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: Okay, that is fantastic. I mean that is a huge, 368 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: huge tip of the hat to him. So here's the 369 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: question I would have for you, because I think a 370 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: lot of people in the audience would be curious about this. 371 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: When did it click? When did it click for you? 372 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: Where you said, you know what, I'm not that anymore, 373 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 4: I'm this What was the thing that took you to 374 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 4: that place? 375 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 6: When I studied world history and I discovered that the 376 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 6: end result of any nation that follows the belief system 377 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 6: of the Democrat Party, the teachings of socialism, communism, Marxism, 378 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 6: is what we saw with the Soviet Union, I said, 379 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 6: wait a minute. And as they did more studying, I 380 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 6: realized that if you want to be free, that requires 381 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 6: hard work. And that's how I realized that everything that 382 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 6: I had been told was wrong. Think of it this way, 383 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 6: I simplified it. If the nation was a automobile, everything 384 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 6: that socialism, communism, Marxism teaches is equivalent to soda pop 385 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 6: and the opposite is premium gasoline. People, poor gasoline in 386 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 6: your nation's gas tank, and you'll be a free citizen. 387 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 6: But if you poor sort of pop, you'll just draw 388 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 6: your nation and you'll be a servant to the government. 389 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: Outstanding, outstanding. That's a great that's a great revelation from 390 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 4: you and I and I'm so happy that you called 391 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 4: in today, Ken, and thank you so much. I wish 392 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 4: you a very wonderful blessed Thanksgiving, and certainly don't be 393 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 4: a stranger a claim. Buck, come on back and say hi, 394 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: that is such a great call, really really really magnificent. 395 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being out there today. 396 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: Let's head on over and check in with Michael on 397 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 4: I twenty six in North Carolina. 398 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: What's on your mind today, Michael. 399 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 7: Hey, gret, I want to say, first of all, you're 400 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 7: doing a great job of filling in in Rush's Shoes 401 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 7: Clan Bucks show, and I like their show, but you 402 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 7: do a better job of staying kind of weaving the 403 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 7: topics together like Rush use I do so well. 404 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: Every look, everybody's got a different sort of style. 405 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 4: Well right, But but the thing is, you know, when 406 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: I'm when I'm when I'm putting together my show, one 407 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: of the things I do a lot is is listening 408 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: to to Clay and Buck because they they have this 409 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: ability you know when when you're when you're broadcasting uh 410 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: as a twosome versus a one someom, what's really cool 411 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 4: is to get the different sort of perspectives. And so 412 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 4: I think I think that that they they do a 413 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: tremendous service, especially when they're able to break down these 414 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: things like when you go back to the interviews that 415 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 4: they did with with now now President Trump, uh, but 416 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 4: when he was a candidate, uh in this last run, 417 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: they were able to get so much great information uh 418 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: with with with him, and that is attributable. 419 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: Let's be honest about this. 420 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 4: That is attributable because it's two people that are able 421 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 4: to kind of dance this sort of waltz, right, and 422 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 4: it's it's tricky at times to do that. So this 423 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 4: is absolutely a high honor for me to get to 424 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 4: spend time with this incredible audience. It's a smart audience, 425 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: and it is it is a group of people that 426 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 4: that I think we'll see through a lot of the 427 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 4: nonsense that comes our way. And and by the way, 428 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 4: while we're while we're on this on this point, for 429 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 4: just a just a couple of moments here, one thing 430 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 4: I want to do is to is to say to 431 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: you You're going to be meeting people from time to 432 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 4: time who are going to disagree with the way you 433 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: you think right, You're you're going to be there, maybe 434 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: this weekend coming up tomorrow with Thanksgiving, and then you 435 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: might be you might be with a group of people 436 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 4: over the course of the weekend before you travel back 437 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 4: home or or they travel back home. Effective persuasion. Effective 438 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 4: persuasion involves just a couple of things, okay it It 439 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: involves the ability to listen to what the other person 440 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 4: is saying and then with good cheer and a desire 441 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: to help them become a better debater. 442 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: You can do this for folks. 443 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: I think people believe too much in a zero sum 444 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 4: game where I have to win only by destroying you 445 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: or you have to win only by destroying me. 446 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: When you talk to people in the. 447 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: Left, many of them will refuse to acknowledge even basic 448 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: precepts about Christianity, faith, traditions, the economy, how people are 449 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 4: allowed and should be allowed to take care of themselves 450 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 4: and give stuff to their families right in a charitable way. 451 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 4: This is a great, great opportunity to do it in 452 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: an incredibly civil way where you are able to start 453 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: to work this process on them, but don't browbeat them. 454 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 4: If you browbeat them, it's like clapping your hands while 455 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: you're trying to go out hunting and you're trying to 456 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 4: sneak up on a deer or a turkey. Right, perhaps 457 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 4: you want to approach smartly and quietly, and if they 458 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 4: get agitated, if they get louder and louder, get quieter 459 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 4: and quieter, because it's a very effective way to defeat 460 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: an argument that if they're yelling about it, it means 461 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 4: they know they're not confident in what they're selling to you. 462 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 4: I want to thank so many great people here who 463 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: allowed me to come in here today. Greg did incredible 464 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 4: stuff on the screening, and of course Ali did incredible 465 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 4: stuff on the helming, and Mike Meimoon with the controls 466 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: there at this incredible operation, and Clay and Buck. You 467 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 4: could not get a better duo. It's incredible. It is 468 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: my pleasure to be here. I am thankful for you 469 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 4: in so many ways. And I hope and I hope 470 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 4: you have an incredible weekend. I hope you have an 471 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 4: incredible Thanksgiving. Not a thanksgetting. The getting comes at Christmas 472 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: and Hanukkah. Do the thanksgiving and you'll get the thanksgetting 473 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 4: in your heart. I am Brent Woitterble. Follow me on 474 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 4: Twitter at winterbal Show. It's been a pleasure to be 475 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: with you here today. You're listening to the Clay and 476 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 4: Buck Show. 477 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 478 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.