1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Hello everybody. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 3: It's just it's been so long, and I'm so excited 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 3: to get back in front of the mic and actually 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 3: bring it back to the OG's kind of really truly 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: bring it back to the ogs, obviously with my lovely 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 3: co host Bob Guinea, who is looking trim and tan, 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: and I'm very jealous about that. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Thanks. Yeah, it's amazing. 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 4: You know, when you're when you're our age and you 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 4: have a six year old and a three year old 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 4: and you find out your cholesterols for the roof, you 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 4: do whatever you can to get in shape fast. So 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 4: that that and a lot of travel has basically been 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 4: the gist of it. 16 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: But thank you. That's a very nice compliment. I appreciate it, 17 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: of course. And I've missed you, t Bone. I have 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: missed you, my friend. 19 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: I know it's really been forever. 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I know you're doing the I Do Part 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: two every so often, and I just I'm like, I 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: am just out in never never Land on an island, 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: just waiting. Just give me a call, pick me, pick me. 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Yes. 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: Well, I am so glad we're back, and I'm really 26 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 4: glad to be back. I mean, I I've been kind 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 4: of excited about this one for a while to have 28 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 4: basically you talk about ogs. This is about as og 29 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 4: as it's gotten for us on this show. Only well 30 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 4: obviously you and I are o G episode every day, 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: but when we had Ryan on, of course, that was 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: that was about as og as it gets. 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: And then this one. 34 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: I mean, this dude was my partnering crime on your 35 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: season when we were on the Trista season of the 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: inaugural season of The Bacheorette, and it was incredible. I 37 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: don't know what either one of us would have done 38 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: without each other on the on the show. And I 39 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 4: leaned on him a lot, he leaned on me a lot. 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: But we were we were basically Mutt and Jeff in 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: it through your season night one, literally from night one 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: until now. I mean, I am still He's the guy 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: I keep in the most touch with besides you, of course, 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: from from that season of the show, and we've remained 45 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: very very very good friends. And and he's he's we 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: always used to joke at that time, I said, gosh, 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: with his face and everything else of me, we make 48 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 4: one really nice guy. 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: That was the only Jamie, because Jamie was just such 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: a hot mess. 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: And we're talking about my buddy, Jamie blythe who is 52 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 4: a is a wonderful person, and we just would rip 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: on each other constantly and it was so much fun. 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 4: And we brought Ryan into that mix more than once. 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 4: Ryan and I would tease it with Jamie, and Jamie's 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 4: just so great. 57 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: At taking it. 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 4: But he's you talk about somebody who's overcome some stuff 59 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: in his life. You know, you wouldn't look at this 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 4: guy and think he has a single problem in the world, right, 61 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 4: But then you you get to know him a little bit, 62 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: and there's so much when you peel the onion, there's 63 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 4: so much more to him than he even gives himself 64 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 4: credit for. And he's really leaned into it. He's really 65 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: embraced it. And I love that and I love him 66 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: for that, Yeah, I really do. But I think it's 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 4: gonna be such a fun reunion to have the three 68 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: of us together because the last time the three of 69 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: us were together, and I will bring this up, by 70 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: the way, I will bring up this story. I'll actually 71 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: say that, I'll say of it because I know you 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: know the story. He knows it really well. But I'll 73 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 4: never forget our beach date with Jamie. 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: Do you remember that one? Yes? I did? 75 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: Sure do. 76 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: You've told this story before, so it's not like our 77 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: listeners are going to be shocked. 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: But yes, it is a funny story. Okay, I think 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: he's in the waiting room, So are you ready to 80 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: bring him in? 81 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: I am. Let's do it. Let's do it, so, Trista. 82 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 5: Since the last time you've seen me, which might have 83 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 5: been like nineteen forty five, sometimes. 84 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 6: Briefly right after World War Two, I think little bit. 85 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long time. 86 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 5: It has been a long time. I've gained thirty pounds 87 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 5: since then. I bet you I'm bob. What are you 88 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 5: weighing on? I bet I'm two ten. I bet you 89 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: I got you beat. 90 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: You're two pounds heavier than me. 91 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 6: There we go. It all came full circle. Buddy. 92 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: Let me just say this. 93 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 4: I cannot I've never tried harder to get someone on 94 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 4: this show in my life. 95 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 6: You've never dealt with someone dumber. 96 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: That's valid. 97 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 7: That's what we've got. 98 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: We've got dumb and dumber shop we do. 99 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: Oh lord, you guys need to get together for Halloween 100 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: and actually like dress up like dumming. Could you please 101 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: that could we do a Halloween episode. 102 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 5: My son realized very early well COVID that I was 103 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 5: an idiot because Seema's very smart, she's great at math 104 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 5: as mother, and I was trying to do kindergarten maybe 105 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 5: first grade math. 106 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 6: I'm like, I can't do that. I don't know. 107 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: It's really hard. Now, do you give yourself some credit? 108 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: Because the way that they teach math now, it's really hard. 109 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: I was going to say, it's not the old school math, 110 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 4: and you got to show your work, and like for 111 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: us showing our work, you'll end with the same answer, 112 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 4: but you got to do it in this different way, 113 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: which I'm going to have to tackle next year. 114 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 6: I'll stick to the sports. 115 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 1: Yeah good, I did exactly. 116 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: Let the teachers do their job. You stick to basketball. 117 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: How are you. 118 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 6: I'm doing great. 119 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 5: It's probably been like corenty something years since, like we've spoken. 120 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 5: I bet something like that. 121 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: At least twenty years. 122 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you were at the wedding that was 123 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: will be twenty two years in December, but I feel 124 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: like we saw each other at some point after that. 125 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 126 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 5: I'm sure there was like some an event of some 127 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 5: sort that we saw each other for sure. 128 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: At my season premiere. Well, yeah, yeah. 129 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 6: That's probably what it was. 130 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: That would have been. 131 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Do you have pictures from that, Bob? 132 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 4: I found some a while ago Andrew fire someone I 133 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 4: got a couple and sent them to me too, and 134 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: so I had a couple from that. 135 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 6: Hey, Bob, this is kind of funny. 136 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 5: I was going through some old stuff here and you 137 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 5: won't be able to see this, but this is in 138 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 5: the Chicago Tribune or sometimes or one of those, and 139 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 5: it reads, Jamie blythe Bachelor, Bob was a lot funnier 140 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: when he was fat. And then they go, this was 141 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 5: I just saw this today. I was looking for some 142 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 5: stuff and they say, do you detect a little jealousy 143 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 5: from bachelor at Jamie? 144 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: So wait, you said that and they were ripping on you. 145 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 6: They wrote that in the Tribune. So I thought you 146 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 6: would enjoy. 147 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: That, you know, I love that. Yeah, I love that. 148 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: But you weren't wrong. I was funnier, and uh, you 149 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: know they just edited me. They edited me romantically. 150 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: On the Batchel Oh yeah, yeah, I know, because when 151 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: you did when you did the Irish jig, that was edited. 152 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember remember when we when we Uh, I 153 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: think you might remember this. By know Jamie will remember this. 154 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: So Jamie comes on, because you and I have talked 155 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: about this twist. But I remember I gave this speech 156 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: night one when I'm the bachelor, right, and I'm I 157 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: give this speech about you know, hey, ladies, this is 158 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: no prize, this is nothing to be upset about. In fact, 159 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: I remember saying if you are sent home tonight, you're welcome. 160 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: The only the women will stay. I'm sorry, I remember 161 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: saying something like that, and and I was like, oh 162 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: my god, that's gonna be so great when they air that, 163 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: because that's truly how I feel. 164 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: And they don't air it. They only air like, you know, 165 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: the Prince Charming moments or whatever. And You're like, come on, man. 166 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: I even said, I was like a date with me 167 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: at home. We are not Hella choppering it into a volcano. 168 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: No, no, no, my lady. 169 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: Friend, we are grabbing we are grabbing my my my 170 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: two speed chavette and we are cruising downtown Detroit. 171 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, I was like, you know, I mean, it 172 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: was just but none of that, manut, none of that. 173 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 4: Me the air. 174 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, of course it came up. 175 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 6: So you know what was so great was. 176 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 5: I was like absolutely just terrified to go on that show. 177 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 5: And I was the first guy out of the limo. 178 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 5: I'm figuring they're going to give me some direction. They 179 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 5: didn't tell me anything, so I just kind of got 180 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 5: out and it was sort of like kind of like dumb, dumber. 181 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 5: I'm just sort of looking around because there's like producers, 182 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 5: there's Trista, there's all these people, and I think they 183 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 5: did two takes? 184 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: Did they? 185 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 6: I don't know, I'm pretty sure. 186 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, So wheat had you watched the show before? 187 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 6: No? I had no frame of reference. 188 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: And you're obviously we know why you didn't want to 189 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: apply to the show or it was kind of out 190 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: of your comfort zone. We'll talk about that a little 191 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: bit later, but you know, you didn't think it was 192 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: something that you could do, So I'd love to know 193 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: why you did it. Like I, you overcame a lot 194 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 3: of you know, mental stress. 195 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 5: It was absolutely terrifying for me. So I was pretty 196 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: late in the game. I was actually at a I 197 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 5: think I was at a bar at Sunset for like 198 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 5: some sales award I had won, and Lisa Levinson was 199 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: there and she said, hey, you'd be great for the 200 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 5: show The Bachelor. Should they actually kind of leapfrog me 201 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 5: for the Bachelor? But Bobby, how much of a disaster 202 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 5: with that? 203 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: About? 204 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 6: Holy cow? 205 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: You would have been great dude? 206 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 6: Right? 207 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 5: But anyway, when I was you know, Bobby's heard the 208 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 5: story bunch. But when I was nineteen, kind of out 209 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 5: of nowhere, I had a panic attack. I was never 210 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 5: socially phobic. I never had a panic attack. I didn't 211 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 5: know what it was. I won't go through the whole 212 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 5: long story, but the long and short of it is 213 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 5: my the biggest fear became people. So I literally had 214 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 5: clinical panic disorder in sociophobia. So it happened talking to 215 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 5: a person in college. I was probably one month in 216 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 5: and then kind of like anybody, but back, especially thirty 217 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: years ago, I didn't know what the hell it was. Right, 218 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 5: It's not like they talked about this stuff and it just, 219 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: you know, I thought it was a one time occurrence. 220 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 5: I was talking to a buddy. It was in the morning, 221 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 5: maybe one month into school, and then I'm like, all right, well, 222 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 5: what the hell was that? And then I went to 223 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 5: class and I had to talk in class, and I 224 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 5: was always okay with it. I was never great at it, 225 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 5: but I was always okay with it, and all of 226 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 5: a sudden, I had a panic attack there, and you know, 227 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 5: I'm sure it was just a lot of stress from 228 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 5: college and just change and all these things going on. 229 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 6: And then I left the. 230 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 5: Class and then everywhere I went after that, I had 231 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 5: a panic attack. So it creates avoidance, and then so 232 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 5: you know, I just I didn't leave my dorm room 233 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 5: for two weeks. 234 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 6: And then my mom called me and she said, what's 235 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 6: going on. 236 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 5: I broke down crying, and then she had had a 237 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 5: panic attack before, so she kind of knew what was 238 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 5: going on, which was thankful to me. I just thought 239 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 5: I was going crazy, right, and I didn't know it 240 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 5: was kind of that other people had this. I didn't 241 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 5: even know what it was. 242 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 6: And then she was, you know, was trying to get 243 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 6: me to leave school and to pick me up to 244 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 6: go home, and I just, you know, knowing Bob knows 245 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 6: my personality, I'm a little hard headed, and I think 246 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 6: we all are a little bit. We're all fun but 247 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 6: hard headed probably at the same time. And I just 248 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 6: I there was part of me that I couldn't quit. 249 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 6: I didn't want to necessarily give into it. I didn't 250 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 6: know how to fight it, so ultimately I did. I 251 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 6: made it through the year. 252 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 5: But you know, if you fast forward through college, I 253 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 5: just sort of lived on the periphery where if you're 254 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 5: at a big school, you know you could You went 255 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: to Indiana, right and Bob, I know, you went to 256 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 5: Michigan State. So if you're at a big school, you 257 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 5: could kind of hang out in the back of class. 258 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 5: You don't have to talk that type of thing. So 259 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 5: my mom was a registrar to school, so she picked 260 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 5: classes where I didn't have to do that. And I 261 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 5: made it out of college in four years by just 262 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 5: sort of isolating myself. 263 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 6: I didn't go on dates. 264 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 5: I didn't go on one date from nineteen to maybe 265 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 5: twenty four or five. And where I overcame it was 266 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 5: in sales. So there was a guy where I grew 267 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 5: up on the basketball court. I was always pretty comfortable 268 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 5: playing basketball, and he just he said, Hey, I'm doing 269 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: this startup tech company. Do you want to be one 270 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 5: of my sales guys. And that's where I really dealt 271 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: with it. And it was the hardest thing outside of 272 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 5: maybe the bacherette, that I've ever done. But every day 273 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: you had to like a quote. If you didn't hit 274 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 5: it for one month, you were fired. And it was intense. 275 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 5: You had to do one hundred two hundred cod calls 276 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 5: a day, so I was getting exposure every single day 277 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 5: to what I was afraid of. But the second week 278 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 5: on the job, we had to do this role play, 279 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 5: which is Bob, I know you were in sales and 280 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: maybe had to do some of this, But the president 281 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: was this typical kind of hard ass guy from a movie. 282 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 6: Glengarry Glenn ROSSI that type of guy. 283 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I mean you could put this guy 284 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: in the movie and he would be be the same, 285 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 5: you know. So he had it was on stage and 286 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 5: I had a role play with this guy, and I 287 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 5: was the last guy to go. 288 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 6: There's probably one hundred people nowadays. I walked up there. 289 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 5: I'm twenty one years old, trying to hide a panic 290 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 5: disorder that nobody knew I had, and I was trying 291 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 5: to control it to the best of my abilities. And 292 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: then I went up there and I was a toast. 293 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 5: I just started a panic right away, and I'm like, 294 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 5: I'm a fed right, And so what happened is you 295 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 5: just shut down, and it's kind of like if you 296 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 5: know people what does it feel like if somebody put 297 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 5: a gun to your head randomly, like right now, you'd 298 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 5: feel fight or flight? Right it's light, so that's what 299 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 5: I felt. So it's just at the long time because 300 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 5: you're talking to a person. So your whole thing is, well, 301 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 5: I got to. 302 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 6: Leave, I got to escape. I got to get out 303 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 6: of there. And luckily the guy got a phone call 304 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 6: the last second and he said, hey, you got saved. 305 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 5: You knew I was scared, and I was about to 306 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 5: break down, crying and just walk out and leave, and 307 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 5: then my mom picked me up. We went to dinner 308 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 5: and my face just fell in the past. I remember that, 309 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 5: just bawling, crying, and again it was you need to quit, 310 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 5: you need to quit, you need to quit, that type 311 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: of thing. No, I won't go through the whole story, 312 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 5: but that was where I overcame it. I worked twenty 313 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 5: four to seven. I never slept. I still don't sleep really. 314 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 5: I probably slept an hour a night if that. And 315 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 5: I just worked on my presentation. I worked on everything 316 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 5: that you kind of need to do to confront beating 317 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 5: an anxiety disorder, which you don't really beat it. But 318 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: I was in the ring, so to speak, and then 319 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 5: it was very incremental. The people that I value were 320 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 5: sports people, especially coaches. Rick Patino, I basically plagiarized its book. 321 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 5: I hope he never reads mine. He probably won't, but 322 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 5: I really took a lot of my philosophy from him. 323 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 6: I read all the books, and you know, from therapists. 324 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 5: I saw therapists this sus great I needed, but they 325 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: didn't have an anxiety disorder, right. 326 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 6: I wanted somebody that can I could relate to. 327 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 5: And that kind of goes back to the show I'm doing, 328 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 5: where I'm interviewing people that didn't necessarily have an anxiety 329 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 5: disorder per se, but. 330 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 6: I could relate to them. They had some sort of 331 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 6: adversity that they had overcome, and that's kind of the 332 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 6: universal thing for all of us. But going back to 333 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 6: your question really quick. 334 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 5: Sorry, going on the show was terrifying, but I had 335 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 5: incrementally sort of built myself to a place where I 336 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 5: could kind of face it. But if it was twenty two, 337 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty four or five years old, I couldn't 338 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 5: have done it. There's no way. I mean, I just 339 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 5: wasn't there yet. And I really wasn't there when I 340 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 5: did the show and so I didn't know what was 341 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 5: going to happen. But the night before there was a 342 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 5: real concern that I was going to break down crying 343 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 5: on the show pan attack. 344 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,239 Speaker 1: That was a concern of yours, Jamie or the pretty. 345 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well I thought I thought I was going 346 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 5: to break down. Actually this goes back to you. You 347 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 5: saved my ass, but I'll go back to that. But yeah, no, 348 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 5: I thought I was going to break down crying with 349 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 5: a panic attack. But I was at a place where 350 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 5: I was willing to confront it. Yeah, and whether even 351 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 5: if I did that, even if and I knew the 352 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 5: cameras would follow me unexploited, I knew all that, which 353 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 5: intensifies the fear right because if you're if you have panic, 354 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 5: the sort of social phobia, the last thing you want 355 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: to do is be the center of attention. You don't 356 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 5: want to be on a camera, you don't want lights 357 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 5: on you. 358 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 6: You just want to escape and avoid. 359 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 5: So my whole thing was confront and if I fail, 360 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 5: meaning public humiliation, great. 361 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 6: I was at that place where I was kind of strong. 362 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 5: Enough to do that and kind of radical acceptance of 363 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 5: any outcome was what I was looking for. But it 364 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 5: was supremely hard. But when I got out of that 365 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 5: limo and I saw you, I made it quick. You 366 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 5: look you know it was you looked great. I said hi, 367 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 5: and I was on my way. And then I went 368 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 5: and sat in this mansion and I was kind of like, 369 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 5: what the hell am I doing here? This is crazy? 370 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 5: What did I get myself into? I am like, I 371 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 5: am dead? And then this guy walks in. I can't 372 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: remember his name anything. 373 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 6: It was Billy or something, you. 374 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 5: Know, talking to him, and he was sort of hyper competitive, 375 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 5: like if you wanted to win this damn thing, you 376 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 5: could just tell And I'm like, I don't know if 377 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 5: I want to be here. 378 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 6: And then Bob walks in, like I think right after him. 379 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: Maybe I was. I was number three. I was number 380 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: three out of the law. 381 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Ryan was after you, right, Wasn't Ryan 382 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: the fourth? 383 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 384 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: He was the last one out of the first limo? 385 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 7: Yeah? 386 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 6: What was so great about what Bob did? I mean? 387 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 5: It was it was honestly amazing because when you when 388 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 5: you look at how nervous I was, and then you 389 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 5: look at how and you'd have to tell me, Bob, 390 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 5: you didn't you were the opposite. You were having fun. 391 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: And I knew you were screwing with this guy. And 392 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: it was probably my favorite conversation of my entire life. 393 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: I told you I met him years later, didn't I. No, Okay, 394 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: go ahead, you tell the story and then and I'll 395 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 4: tell it. 396 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. 397 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 6: This is how I recall it. It was so long ago, 398 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 6: but I remember we're kind of all talking what. 399 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 4: Do you do? 400 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 6: What do you do? What do you do? 401 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 5: And uh and the guy who was trying to a 402 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 5: kind of badass and he's like, I'm a martial artist. 403 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 6: And then you go, I'm also a martial artist. 404 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: I said, I too, am a martial artist. 405 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 6: Yes, And I knew you were screwing with him. And 406 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 6: I'm like, this is this guy really screwing up? 407 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 5: This guy here, Like we just got in here and 408 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 5: I had been sitting in this damn mansion for like 409 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 5: an hour, and and the guy got kind of you know, competitive, 410 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 5: and he goes, what's your discipline? And you go, tybo, 411 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 5: and he goes, that's not a discipline. And you go, 412 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 5: do you tell that to Billy Blanks will kick your ass. 413 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 5: I mean, it was just the And then you push 414 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: that guy out in the center of the ring, like 415 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 5: in the carpet when we were all there and you 416 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 5: told him to do the dance. 417 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 6: Do is like martial art moves in front of trista guys, 418 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 6: do it? 419 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 7: Who was it? 420 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: What's his name? 421 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 6: I think it was Billy right. 422 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: I have him in my phone and I will tell 423 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: you this. 424 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: Do you have it under martial artist? 425 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: I have that. I do have an under hold on 426 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I have it at. 427 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 4: So, by the way, you know what. He was a firefighter. 428 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 4: His name was Billy Perlata. 429 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: Billy Billy. He went, he left the first night. 430 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 4: He did Billy Peralta and he was a firefighter at 431 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: the time in l A. And now and now he's 432 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: in Louisville, or not Louisville, maybe he was in Ohio 433 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: or something. But he was at the derby and he 434 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: came over to me and he's like, man, I don't 435 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: know if you remember me or not, but I had 436 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 4: I had the best memories of you from that night. 437 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: And he's like, you told me that you did martial 438 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 4: art with Billy Billy Blanks. 439 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, I'm like I remember that. 440 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 6: Do you remember that? 441 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: Yes, he was gonna kill me because he. 442 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 5: Pushed him into the thing and he was like, he 443 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 5: went like that and then he starts jumping around like 444 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 5: a monkey. 445 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 6: I think you cut him first. 446 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: Well I cut him that night. That's not why I 447 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: think he was really young, really. 448 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: Young he was because he's super young now. I mean 449 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: he's still such a nice guy too. 450 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my god, yes, I totally remember you, 451 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: and yeah, I do remember that. 452 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 7: Oh man, I have a question. 453 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: So after you know, obviously we can talk about the 454 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: show too, but afterwards, you know, they give you the 455 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 3: opportunities to speak to a psychologist. Did you ever consult 456 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: with a psychologist before, during, or after the show to 457 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: talk about before? 458 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 6: I did, and I think I just lied about it. 459 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 5: In retrospect, I think I was really intense for The 460 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 5: Bachelor because I was like, which, again, they have to 461 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: be smoking crack. But I was like, final four or 462 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 5: five for The Bachelor, they sort of leave frog me. Yeah, 463 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 5: and then so that was pretty obviously you guys went 464 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 5: through that. 465 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 6: But yeah, for. 466 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: Aaron Burgee's season, you were being looked at for the 467 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: Bachelor for. 468 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 7: That a season. 469 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, remember, like, yeah, a few people that we would 470 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 5: both know that are pretty big names were vying for 471 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: it that I. 472 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: Won't mention their names, but why not mention their names? 473 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 4: Oh? 474 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 5: One of them is a friend of mine and he 475 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 5: went on a different show, Bill Rantick. 476 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: Bill Ransick. 477 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Bill is such a First of all, love Bill 478 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 4: Ransick and he's a great guy. 479 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: I'll never get him bring it up to me. 480 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 4: He's like, you know, they talked to me about The Bachelor, 481 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: and I was like, no kidding, and. 482 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know the timing of it. 483 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 4: And he's like, it would have been before you were 484 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: even on the Bachelorette and he's like yeah, And then 485 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 4: they came to me with a different show and he 486 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: was and I just felt like that show was more 487 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: my speed. And I'm like, yeah, I think you and 488 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 4: you ended up leinning it, you know, which is amazing. 489 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: You ended up learning the Apprentice. 490 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 6: He's a he's a great guy. 491 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 5: Good, he's a friend of mine and yeah, obviously from Chicago, 492 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 5: but love that guy. The Apprentice would have been a 493 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: better show for me. But yeah, Tristan, they slide to him. 494 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 5: I never mentioned it. I was doing my best to 495 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 5: hide it and just to see what would happened. And 496 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 5: then I knew, like even at the worst of it 497 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 5: that you know, it sounds a cliche and kind of 498 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 5: cheesy or whatever, but I knew there was some growth 499 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 5: on the other side of just facing something that fearful 500 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 5: for me, I guess for you, like I was scared 501 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: out of my mind. So you guys both went through 502 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 5: the same thing. But Trista was the first Bacheorette ever. Yeah, 503 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 5: so it kind of goes back to like when I 504 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 5: reviewed Mike Tyson. I'm very interested in that because I 505 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 5: know the night before I didn't sleep. I was outrageously 506 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 5: scared because of what I was dealing with. But you 507 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 5: guys were the batchleror bacheorette. What does that feel like 508 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 5: the night before? I mean, were you nervous? Did you 509 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 5: have any doubt? Did you have any fear? 510 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: Heck, yeah, yes, a lot. 511 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 7: I mean I was. 512 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: I think I bet Bob would feel the same, and 513 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: I think certainly all the leads feel in a way 514 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: the same. I feel like you're really excited it for 515 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: the potential of, you know, your future, and then it's 516 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: also like, oh my gosh, what am I doing? Like 517 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 3: you said, I feel like that's probably a very common 518 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: sentiment with anyone who goes on the show, and then 519 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 3: I have to say, you know, you said, you know, 520 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 3: going through the worst of it. You know, after you 521 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: publicly announced that you had suffered and were suffering from 522 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 3: panic disorder, all I could think about was, oh, my gosh, 523 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: you were the biggest Why were you so. 524 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 7: Mean to Jamie? 525 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: Even though I didn't feel like I was mean to Jamie, 526 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: but I was. I was like, honest, But if I 527 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: had known that you suffered through panic disorder, like I 528 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: definitely wouldn't have been like, oh yeah, you can kiss me. 529 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 6: You were I thought you were. No, I thought you 530 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 6: were great. Actually, know where it came out. 531 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 5: I think this is where because you know, I didn't 532 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 5: realize they had hidden mics everywhere. 533 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I think. 534 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 5: Me and you were talking about something personal between both 535 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 5: of us, and I told you that in confidence. 536 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: There I think, oh you did, okay. 537 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 6: I think so that's a guess. 538 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: Actually that does that does sound familiar now that you're 539 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 3: saying that show they have maybe on the during the 540 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: the SPA date. I don't know, maybe during the spot. 541 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 6: So let's talk about that. That that date, So. 542 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 5: If you want to talk about I'm sure it was 543 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 5: awful for you, but like that that. 544 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: Was the full stop it. 545 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: Well, hold on, hold on, let's let this stage a 546 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: little bit here. 547 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: So, okay, it's trist this season of The Bachelorette, right, 548 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 4: Jamie and I are on a date with Trista. I 549 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 4: want I want to tell the story that leads into 550 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 4: the story first. 551 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: So we are to the beach. We're on the beach. 552 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 6: Well that was a different one, but yeah. 553 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a different date. 554 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: This was this was the full party. 555 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the sad was. 556 00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: The full party. 557 00:24:59,680 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 558 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 4: Right, so this was the first time that this something 559 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 4: of this nature may have happened, so I'll never forget it. 560 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: I am standing there and I don't know what. 561 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 4: To do, and one of the producers says, well, hey, Bob, 562 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: you know, Trista came to us earlier today and said, god, 563 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 4: I really, I really, I feel like Bob's in the 564 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 4: friend zone and I really want them to kiss me. 565 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like really, and they're like, oh. 566 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm like and I've gotten to know Trista, 567 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 4: We've got to know you really well at this point, 568 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 4: I feel, and I'm like, so you're telling me that 569 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 4: Trista walked up to you and said, man, today would 570 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 4: be the perfect day, if only Bob would come up 571 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: and try and put us tongue in my mouth and 572 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 4: they're like yeah. 573 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, no, hey, that did not happen. That 574 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: did not happen. And see, I'm not doing it. And 575 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: so I walk away and. 576 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, we're on a group date with five guys 577 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 4: and she wants someone to try to make out with her. 578 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so. So I walk over and I 579 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: grab two beers and I'm not even a big beer guy. 580 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 4: And I come walking back and I'm like, where's Jamie 581 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: And he goes, hey, you go back there. Jamie's out 582 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: there with Trista and I'm like, I look, and he 583 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 4: was Jamie leaning in for a kiss. 584 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: It goes Tristan little. 585 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 4: He goes and he kisses around the cheek and I'm like, 586 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: my timing, My god, thank god. 587 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: They went to him and I didn't listen, you know, 588 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: but he listened. 589 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 5: I think it's the wisdom that you had a couple 590 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 5: of years older. You're like, now, I'm not came up 591 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 5: and asked me too. It was just like the wrong time. 592 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 5: But even honestly, even that, I was like, yeah, I'll 593 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 5: try it. 594 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: What the hell, but what I loved and this is 595 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: my favorite part. So at the end, now I'm second 596 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 4: guessing myself. 597 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: Right. 598 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: So we get in the limo and we're all going 599 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: to go home and I and we're all getting ready 600 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 4: to to a toast, and I go, hey, before we 601 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: say anything, I go, Trista, I want you to know. 602 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: You know, here, we're on a date with five guys. 603 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 4: I mean, Trista, you might not even remember this, but 604 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 4: I remember saying this to you. And the reason why 605 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: I remember it was because my best buddy Jamie's sitting 606 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 4: right next to you. 607 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm at the end. 608 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: He's like, in with you, and I go, you know, 609 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 4: if we're on a group date like this, and if 610 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 4: we aren't trying to be affectionate with you or anything, it's 611 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: out of respect for you. 612 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: And I look at Jamie's like, and I go, but. 613 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: If we are trying that, then maybe we have a 614 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: different connection. 615 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 6: I saw you, so I'm like, or. 616 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 4: You know, if we are trying, then maybe it's because 617 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 4: we have a different connection. 618 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 6: Then oh god, but you know, we all have so much. 619 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: Respect for you and we just don't want to you know. 620 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 6: And I remember you saw my face and it was 621 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 6: just like a ghost. 622 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 4: Don't throw me under the bus, and then we are Okay, 623 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: So let's go back to the other one. So now 624 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: we're on the spa date again, Jamie and I together, 625 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 4: you know, the two of. 626 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 5: Course, we're in a we're in a hot tub. I 627 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 5: think half our relationship spend in a hot tub. 628 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: I love that you're saying half of our relationship yours 629 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: and bops. 630 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because ninety percent of the relationship 631 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: with Trista, for you, has been in the hotel. 632 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, right, I have. 633 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 5: To say I contracted ringworm in that hot tub, and 634 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 5: I should have told Trista, so it should like any 635 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 5: of the final suitors didn't. 636 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 4: Oh my god, whatever, this is his humor. He's kidding, 637 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 4: he's kidding. 638 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 6: Is that the Jamie we know? 639 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: This humor is like trust me, trusted, he's kidding, he's kidding. Okay, 640 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 4: So let's cut back to the spa date and let's 641 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: go from there. Okay, because this is where this one 642 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 4: actually makes makes the uh. It does not get end 643 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: up on the cutting rom floor. This one makes it 644 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: into the season. 645 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 6: Oh my god. 646 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 5: So we're having a good time, like we're in the hotel, 647 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 5: there's me and you. I don't know who else was 648 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 5: in there, and you. 649 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 6: All remember bout. 650 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah Ryan was on that day too. 651 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 6: That's amazing. So and Ryan was the best man. He 652 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 6: was awesome. I actually met him. He might have been 653 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 6: the first person I met. And I'm kind of like, 654 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 6: maybe this will be okay, because I was really worried 655 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 6: what type of person would be there. Yeah, and I 656 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 6: remember sitting in the I think I was in his limbo. 657 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 6: I want to. 658 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: Say we were all on the same level. We were 659 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: in the same level. 660 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 5: So he was just so nice and normal, and I 661 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 5: remember he's saying he played football for the Panthers, and 662 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 5: he just seemed kind of like this humble, smart, nice guy. 663 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 5: So I'm like, wow, this is might be different than 664 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 5: what I thought. Anyway, So the producers come up to me. 665 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 5: I think we had a contest, Bob, and somebody's like, 666 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 5: whoever wins it has to you know, we're going to 667 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 5: do a massage with Tristan. Yeah, Trista, nothing against you, 668 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 5: but I didn't want to have a pantic attack, right, 669 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 5: So it could have been anybody, and all I was 670 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 5: hoping I was praying it wasn't wasn't going to be 671 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 5: me because I don't want to have a panic attack. 672 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 6: And then I won. 673 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 5: I got it. So now I'm like, oh my god, okay, massage. 674 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 5: What does that mean? I don't really know you yet, right, 675 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 5: So we're having a massage and I actually felt believe 676 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 5: it or not, Like I remember this. I felt okay. 677 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 5: And we were talking about basic stuff. Where are you from? 678 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 6: Uh, just simple stuff family, which is a little odd 679 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 6: while getting massage in your basketball shorts. Right, So I 680 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 6: made it, and I made it through that, and I 681 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 6: remember being like, all right, I did it. I got through. 682 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 6: I'm done. Now I can go. 683 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: Back to Bob, like come to pop up, buddy. 684 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 6: So I can go back to the hot top with 685 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 6: Bob and. 686 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: I can get ring worm. 687 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: Get ring worm. 688 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 5: But like you did it and then went well, so 689 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 5: the other ring worms that's a problem. And then now 690 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 5: they're like, oh, you guys are going to get a shower, 691 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 5: and I just remember that that's when I had a 692 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 5: panic attack. I'm like, that's the fear of God? Like 693 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 5: what does that mean? 694 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: Am I? 695 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 6: Like what do? 696 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 5: I don't even know what to do? Like I have 697 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 5: an Irish mother who's supremely Catholic. That's going to be watching, 698 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 5: and I'm like, so I go in the shower. I 699 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 5: trust that you were you were so nice, but I 700 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 5: was so afraid. I didn't know what to do. I 701 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 5: just started showering. I remember like washing my armpits and 702 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 5: like shampooing my head, Like. 703 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 6: Do you need any soap? What kind of soap do 704 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 6: you like? Do you like the shampoo first? You're like 705 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 6: the soap first, which like, but. 706 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: That's not what makes That's not what makes it on 707 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: the air. What makes it on is Janie's interview. 708 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 6: And then they slow it down, Yeah. 709 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 5: Like the super slow motion of me, Like she goes, 710 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 5: you know, maybe you could like massage my shoulders. So 711 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 5: I basically just took a shower. Yeah, but Trisa, that 712 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 5: had it, but like you had to know. I got 713 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 5: that this is not going to work with this guy 714 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 5: obviously right after that shower. 715 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 7: Oh stop, no, no, no, that's not true. 716 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 4: Tell him what you said, Jamie to get through the 717 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 4: dead rats things. I remember sitting there rubbing her shoulder 718 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 4: and she's so beautiful, and all I could think to 719 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: myself was dead rats, dead rats, dead rats, And it's 720 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: just like, what the hell. 721 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 6: It might be? The new Viager commercial. 722 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: You never know, so good, that's so funny. 723 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 5: I remember feeling so uncomfortable, like for you, like doing 724 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 5: was that uncomfortable? They had to be uncomfortable for you, 725 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 5: but you probably don't remember because you're on a bunch 726 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 5: of them. 727 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: You know, honestly, it's not as uncomfortable. I was just like, Okay, 728 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: this is just what we're doing. But I I'm I 729 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: wasn't dealing with a panic disorder. So like you know, 730 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: from my mental position compared to yours was definitely very 731 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: very different. And I came from a very Catholic family too, 732 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: and so that's why background story. I was like, you know, 733 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: I'm not like the kissing bandit we're talking to right now. 734 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm not going to kiss everybody. 735 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 7: Oh who who whatt. 736 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: You? No? Stop? 737 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: So, so you know, I went into it thinking I 738 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: don't want to look like I'm, you know, a floozy 739 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: and a slug like they were calling me in the press. 740 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: I so much I was. 741 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 6: I wasn't aware of that that people were saying that. 742 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, actually I think Chicago was one of the 743 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: places that did an article. Anyway, anyway, whatever, it's all 744 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: in the past, it's all good. But That's where my 745 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: headspace was, you know, like I wanted to make sure 746 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 3: that I was very thoughtful about who I was, you know, 747 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: being more like physical with yeah, and I didn't want 748 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: to be physical with everybody. 749 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: All right, Well, you know what, this is a great 750 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 4: time to take a quick break. We've got so much 751 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 4: more to talk about. So we are going to take 752 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 4: a quick break right now, and we'll be back with 753 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 4: more almost famous the Ogs our special guests Jamie blythe