Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbo. I'll that for me.
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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to
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Speaker 1: Ty I'm terrific and I'm told a little birdie told
Speaker 1: me that you have extensive thoughts on this quick lane
Speaker 1: Bowl match. I do guess the floor is yours?
Speaker 3: I do No, we'll get into that when we get
Speaker 3: to the bowl matchups a little bit later. So just
Speaker 3: to peel back the curtain. Normally we record this recap
Speaker 3: show about nine to thirty Eastern Time on a Sunday morning,
Speaker 3: but because of the playoff announcements, because of the Bowl
Speaker 3: announcements that are still coming out as we're doing this show,
Speaker 3: we decided to record it for Eastern so that we
Speaker 3: had a more complete set of data to present to
Speaker 3: over ballers.
Speaker 1: Is that right correct? Yes, that is true. We could
Speaker 1: have recorded this morning and just talked about the conference
Speaker 1: championship games and any updated coaching stuff. But you know what,
Speaker 1: it didn't feel right to cheat everybody of our strong
Speaker 1: Bowl thoughts. That's correct. The playoff rankings that became pretty
Speaker 1: not the rankings, but in terms of the four teams
Speaker 1: who would make the playoff pretty obvious after all was
Speaker 1: said and done yesterday. As we record this Sunday, it's
Speaker 1: important to date this by the way, Yes, so if
Speaker 1: something crazy happens Sunday, four pm Eastern, we wanted to
Speaker 1: give you the full scope, as full as we could
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Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll get a full pallette here.
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Speaker 3: available to us, probably by the stages of this show.
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Speaker 3: All right, Why don't we start where we have started
Speaker 3: all year. Let's many folks styled into our reverblind four
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Speaker 3: who's been cutting these up for us most of this season,
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Speaker 1: Have a listen.
Speaker 2: The lady throwing overhanded and that doctor Pepper toss one.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: Hey, this is Chris calling from Waco, Texas.
Speaker 2: Daniel from Oklahoma here, Colin.
Speaker 1: Hello, In. This is Sewn from Seattle.
Speaker 3: Hey, this is Dylan. I'm calling from ben Ridge.
Speaker 2: Hi. This is Hayden and Notre Dame, Indiana. Hey, this
Speaker 2: is Amy from Portland and I'm married to a man
Speaker 2: from Oklahoma. And all I gotta say is Okay, Boomers
Speaker 2: go dock. So it's halftime of the TAC twelfth Championship game,
Speaker 2: and my youths Well, I'm researching airfare to San Antonio.
Speaker 1: Hi, this is still from Salt Lake and got the
Speaker 1: pain hurts.
Speaker 4: So I tried to put my emotions down to taper
Speaker 4: and I wrote a poem. I had a football team
Speaker 4: called the Youth.
Speaker 2: They died, They died. It looked like our offense was sleeping.
Speaker 1: I cried, I cried, go.
Speaker 2: Youth, Got this hurts.
Speaker 3: Utah's uniforms were clean as hell, but they certainly did
Speaker 3: not play that way.
Speaker 1: They're going to need some extra serotonin to get over
Speaker 1: this championship Saturday.
Speaker 4: Hey, didn't hi to Alex calling from Santa Clara after
Speaker 4: the Packfield Championship in is Arizona State the best team
Speaker 4: in the Pac twelve?
Speaker 2: Just kidding?
Speaker 3: Oregon wins, Go Duck?
Speaker 2: Do you smell that? It's the fresh aroma of Roses?
Speaker 4: We took the pack Go Duck tight, Dan, you guys,
Speaker 4: do you smell that?
Speaker 1: Is that.
Speaker 2: Roses? Go Duck? All of the Bears down in Waco
Speaker 2: loved Christmas.
Speaker 1: A lot, but Alex Grinch, who lived just north of Waco,
Speaker 1: did not.
Speaker 4: I witnessed my Baylor Bears almost beat the perennial powerhouse
Speaker 4: of the Oklahoma Sooners with a third string scout team
Speaker 4: quarterback and Jalen Hurt giving two terrible turnovers.
Speaker 2: But now we shall see.
Speaker 4: This is David from Columbus calling to say I am
Speaker 4: emotionally and physically exhausted.
Speaker 2: After the most stressful fourteen point conference championship win.
Speaker 1: I've ever watched.
Speaker 3: Let's hope the Bucks remember how to play the first
Speaker 3: third me.
Speaker 2: Into a football game, and hopefully we can beat up
Speaker 2: on some tigers. Go Bucks. Hi. This is Hayden and
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Indiana watching as my team doesn't have a
Speaker 2: conference championship game, just like Alabama.
Speaker 4: Joe Irish, Hey, yow, I've been alive long, se safe,
Speaker 4: I am looks like our day answers getting pretty advanceder
Speaker 4: I may neh everybody as always Tiger bad hat.
Speaker 2: Right, baby's sec and I starting this state clearly this year.
Speaker 2: It's Sunday morning in Athens, Georgia, and the sun did rise,
Speaker 2: only to shed more light on the fact that Jake
Speaker 2: Frum does not at all have Thaker Mayfield is It's.
Speaker 3: Not a good run for Georgia when you have more
Speaker 3: players injured and points cord in that SC championship.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Georgia Athletics staff is just going
Speaker 1: to trudge out like a World War two doctor at
Speaker 1: this point with a cigarette in one hand, saying, Oh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like you're gonna have too good of
Speaker 1: a time. But what about those Notre Dame Irish?
Speaker 2: Huh Dan?
Speaker 1: How about Dan Tigers?
Speaker 2: How about the Hawaiians blow roasting ladies and gentlemen? The
Speaker 2: Broncos bar back? Guess who's back back again? Playne Kiffin's back,
Speaker 2: Tell a friend.
Speaker 3: All right, there you go, out there, there you go.
Speaker 3: Thank you to one and all for calling all season long.
Speaker 3: It was a ton of fun. Again, thanks to our
Speaker 3: boy Ryan for cutting those up, and thanks to all
Speaker 3: of her ballers, the hundreds, if not thousands of people
Speaker 3: who called in throughout the course of the last fifteen weeks.
Speaker 3: It's been a ton of fun to listen and relive
Speaker 3: some of these college football moments with you. So, Daniel, Yes,
Speaker 3: Captain Tye, thank you. By the way, did you catch
Speaker 3: Gus Johnson going all Captain Jack on Jack Cone?
Speaker 1: Of course I did, Tye, Captain Jack. The two's cruise
Speaker 1: is permeating the college football lands. Whether you like it
Speaker 1: or not, it's all very real.
Speaker 3: We're going to walk back through the weekend in chronological order.
Speaker 3: It's a quasi oral history, if you will. It was
Speaker 3: the best way I could think to do it.
Speaker 1: But okay, let's start just counting on each other.
Speaker 3: That's correct, Tale, that's correct, Okay, sitting around the campfire here.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 3: The day after, we framed this weekend out as sort
Speaker 3: of the and one scenario, Like, there were three teams
Speaker 3: that we knew were on an elite level, and then
Speaker 3: there was that one more spot left in the playoffs
Speaker 3: that the committee would have to fill and we didn't
Speaker 3: really know what would happen. We had a few options
Speaker 3: that we presented. It could have gotten crazy. It didn't,
Speaker 3: and alas it was pretty obvious in the end. But
Speaker 3: first up to try and claim that spot was the
Speaker 3: Utah Utes in the Pac twelve game on Friday night.
Speaker 3: Coming into this, they were ranked fifth. In hindsight, they
Speaker 3: got to be sick because I think a win would
Speaker 3: have almost definitely put them through into the playoff, but
Speaker 3: not meant to be. Dan, your Oregon Ducks. You're defending
Speaker 3: red box ball champion Oregon Ducks. Yeah, they're now packed
Speaker 3: twelve champions.
Speaker 1: Where's my hat as well.
Speaker 3: They win by a thirty seven to fifteen score.
Speaker 1: Walk me through this, Dan, I may I just say,
Speaker 1: I am supremely disappointed that when you said it had
Speaker 1: an and one flare to it, that you were not
Speaker 1: talking about skipped to my lou and the professor.
Speaker 3: And no, no, I thought about that, baby, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no no.
Speaker 1: I baby shack well s we oh god, I'm forgetting
Speaker 1: all my guys here. But my reaction to Utah Oregan
Speaker 1: is somebody who was pretty confident in watching both of
Speaker 1: these teams for a good chunk of time and knowing
Speaker 1: that Oregon had the higher ceiling because they just have
Speaker 1: the I think higher collection, the better collection of talent,
Speaker 1: but Utah just had fewer questions. Like we talked about,
Speaker 1: I was somewhat surprised by Oregon coming out the way
Speaker 1: they did, but I suppose it shouldn't have been that
Speaker 1: much of a surprise because we saw them play up
Speaker 1: or sometimes down to their opponents all year long. We
Speaker 1: saw the defense look rocking against Auburn and USC and
Speaker 1: not necessarily against Washington. But they came to play against Washington.
Speaker 1: They came away, especially away from Audsen, with some pretty
Speaker 1: big wins or performances. I'm not going to talk about
Speaker 1: the end of the Auburn game. So what they look
Speaker 1: like almost immediately against Utah was both familiar and surprising
Speaker 1: all at the same time. So I just I came
Speaker 1: up with the offensive line just completely pulverized Utah upfront,
Speaker 1: which nobody's really done this year. No, justin Herbert first
Speaker 1: of all, keeping the ball on runs early to actually
Speaker 1: run the pistol as intended, because you're supposed to have
Speaker 1: at least a threat of a quarterback running, and that's
Speaker 1: not anything Oregon and Herbert offered leading up to this game.
Speaker 1: So that was a new but expected wrinkle if you're
Speaker 1: running a pistol offense, and then Oregon's defense just completely
Speaker 1: swarming Utah and coming up with big stop after big
Speaker 1: stop on third and short and fourth and short. And
Speaker 1: it's something we've talked about across the sport. Winning moments.
Speaker 1: We saw it across every one of these huge championship games,
Speaker 1: Conference championship games. Oregon won moments, whether it was you know,
Speaker 1: batting down passes on our just third and short, fourth
Speaker 1: and short, Brady Breeze coming up and leveling a runner,
Speaker 1: or picking off that pass in the end zone. Oregon
Speaker 1: just came to win the moments and Kevon Thibodeau was
Speaker 1: terrific shorting a punt chasing down Tyler Huntley Utah. It
Speaker 1: looked like the moment was just too big for Utah,
Speaker 1: who had a seriously, very very good season. But the
Speaker 1: best of Oregon came to play in Utah was just
Speaker 1: they weren't on the same field. So now, hold on.
Speaker 3: You say the moment was too big for Utah, and
Speaker 3: that may have been true early, but there was a
Speaker 3: moment in this game late in the third quarter totally
Speaker 3: Utah came back. They made it an eight point game,
Speaker 3: twenty three to fifteen with a whole quarter left. Yes,
Speaker 3: or you have Auburn flashbacks, because that was a near
Speaker 3: identical situation to what happened in that game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oregon ran out to a lead and then made
Speaker 1: some decisions poor decisions, didn't get out to any sort
Speaker 1: of impressive offensive start in the second half. And I
Speaker 1: was so that it was a new look Oregon, even
Speaker 1: though they sort of kept it somewhat conservative at times.
Speaker 1: Busting out long runs is fine, Yeah, sure, busting out CJ.
Speaker 1: Verdell goes for over two hundred with three touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: believe he is one of just a handful of running
Speaker 1: backs since two thousand or something who's done that and Oregon.
Speaker 1: When I talk about the moment being too big for Utah,
Speaker 1: there were specific instances of UTA. I mean, Tyler Huntley
Speaker 1: made a couple of incredible throws, Zach Moss had a
Speaker 1: few incredible moments and runs himself. But Utah was held
Speaker 1: scoreless for three quarters in this game. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: Utah had a moment in the third quarter where they
Speaker 1: they looked competitive that they were going to come back,
Speaker 1: but for Oregon to just rise again was as an
Speaker 1: Oregon fan, it was pretty incredible to watch them really
Speaker 1: step up in this moment because I really do anticipate
Speaker 1: this being a point of the Mario Cristobal era. That is,
Speaker 1: I think it's base camp. I think Oregon has a
Speaker 1: higher ceiling with how they're recruiting and what the defense
Speaker 1: might look like.
Speaker 3: Well, to your point, Kyle Whittingham made the same comment
Speaker 3: about the line of scrimmage. He was disappointed, said they'd
Speaker 3: been undefeated in that area all year, and he's right,
Speaker 3: they just they didn't win the line of scrimmage. I
Speaker 3: thought the Oregon defense is super impressive. Six sacks of
Speaker 3: Tyler Huntley pressure all night. You mentioned Kevin Thibodeau two
Speaker 3: and a half sacks. He blocked a punt, wasn't like
Speaker 3: a punt block was intentionally called there, No through the
Speaker 3: line got it done. And only the second game this
Speaker 3: season in which Zach Moss, the record setting running back
Speaker 3: for Utah did not score a touchdown the other one USC.
Speaker 3: They lost that game too, So right, the Ducks move
Speaker 3: on onto bowl season. I should say thirty seven to
Speaker 3: two fifteen is your final. They're going to square off
Speaker 3: against Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. So very narrowly missed
Speaker 3: a solid verbowl if you want.
Speaker 1: I believe he got hurt in the USC game, so
Speaker 1: that's at least defensively, only had I think six carries.
Speaker 1: He was hurt pretty early.
Speaker 3: So with a chance to go to the playoff, Utah falters,
Speaker 3: which means the Big Twelve Game. The Big Twelve Game
Speaker 3: was high noon on Saturday, Oklahoma thirty Baylor twenty three
Speaker 3: in overtime. So unlike the first game between these two,
Speaker 3: this one was neck and neck the whole way. Each
Speaker 3: team won two quarters, so it was actually quite fitting
Speaker 3: that it went to ot again. This one was there
Speaker 3: for Baylor with a little better execution sort of. I
Speaker 3: don't think to the same extent as the first game,
Speaker 3: right to be fair, but they did go to overtime,
Speaker 3: and I think with a few more moments of better
Speaker 3: execution they could legit be thirty teen and oh was
Speaker 3: not meant to be the finish eleven to two.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, great year.
Speaker 3: After watching both of these Oklahoma Baylor games in their entirety,
Speaker 3: I think it's clear that Oklahoma is the better team,
Speaker 3: also clear that they should have been winning these games
Speaker 3: by more, and the reason they didn't is because of
Speaker 3: a good, opportunistic Baylor defense and an offense that capitalized
Speaker 3: on Oklahoma mistakes the whole nine yards. But at this point,
Speaker 3: I keep coming back to what you said about Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3: He is truly an equal opportunity hurterer, isn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who hurts you well, both teams? Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he mostly hurts other teams and his talent's undeniable,
Speaker 3: But when he hurts his own team, it really stings.
Speaker 1: And he did it again in this game. Dan, correct,
Speaker 1: So where do you want you want to begin? With Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: Let's start with Oklahoma. Yeah, yes, the.
Speaker 1: Best of Oklahoma is Jalen Hurts. It's Ceedee Lamb. It's
Speaker 1: how much pressure Oklahoma got up front against this Baylor
Speaker 1: offensive line, which has been fine, nothing crazy, but this
Speaker 1: is sort of a different look for Oklahoma. Obviously, Kenneth
Speaker 1: Murray has been, you know, the strong point of what
Speaker 1: has been at times a weaker unit this season and
Speaker 1: in the past few years. So it was nice that
Speaker 1: everybody sort of gathered around him to rise to or
Speaker 1: hope to rise to his level. So that was an
Speaker 1: encouraging sign. Obviously, Oklahoma gifts Baylor a short field for
Speaker 1: their first touchdown. Was a twenty twenty five yard short
Speaker 1: field for the Bears, but that's fine. They took advantage
Speaker 1: and that counts. It was a nice pass from Jerry Bohannon.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's Jerry. Jerry, No, it's Jerry. It's Jerry,
Speaker 1: which is a great name. He comes in once Charlie
Speaker 1: Brewer takes a hit where he looked super wobbly and
Speaker 1: it was very clear that he was not okay, so
Speaker 1: he leaves the game. Jerry Bohannon isn't great, but he
Speaker 1: makes a couple of plays, he was beat up. And
Speaker 1: then it was Jacob Zeno, Yeah, baby, who comes in
Speaker 1: for Baylor, who I think has been sort of pegged
Speaker 1: as the quarterback of the future, a true freshman who
Speaker 1: has not seen a lot of action this year to
Speaker 1: maintain his red shirt. And he comes in and he
Speaker 1: despite the Oklahoma defense looking very good for this this
Speaker 1: this championship game, he found some soft spots in that
Speaker 1: home defense.
Speaker 3: Two consecutive passes one and fifty nine yards and a touchdowns.
Speaker 1: First two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, first two passes. So talk about starting things off
Speaker 3: on the right foot. I believe he was three for
Speaker 3: three passing headed into this football game, So start to
Speaker 3: bail our career a perfect five for five. Interestingly enough, though,
Speaker 3: to your point on the Oklahoma defense, he did not
Speaker 3: complete a pass after that.
Speaker 1: He finished something like two for six.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma was able to really tighten things up, and as
Speaker 3: he saw on that final series and then again in overtime,
Speaker 3: they were bringing pressure. They were not taking it easy
Speaker 3: on the young freshmen. They were bringing pressure, and they
Speaker 3: were forcing him to change his rhythm and you know,
Speaker 3: make some good decisions.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely what you should do. And it almost underscored
Speaker 1: at the same time that Oklahoma is a running team.
Speaker 1: You know, the Jalen Hurts throws downfield to Ceedee Lammer wonderful.
Speaker 1: These past couple of years with Baker Mayfield and Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray were sensational. But Oklahoma is at its best on
Speaker 1: the ground, as we've seen, whether it's samaj p Ryan
Speaker 1: or this year Kennedy Brooks and Trey Sermon before he
Speaker 1: got hurt and Jalen Hurts like on the ground has
Speaker 1: been incredible. They couldn't run against Baylor, and that's what
Speaker 1: kept it close. They couldn't possess this game, and Baylor
Speaker 1: came up big after big after big time on defense
Speaker 1: and stayed in this game. But there's only so much
Speaker 1: you can do with that much inexperienced under center. And
Speaker 1: they came into this game with some offensive limitations in
Speaker 1: terms of consistent drives, and I think all credit goes
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma for playing as complete a game as they
Speaker 1: possibly could have when things weren't popping necessarily at all
Speaker 1: times offensively.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma ends up being your fourth seed in the playoffs
Speaker 3: by virtue of this win. The Wisconsin thing didn't happen.
Speaker 3: We'll get to that game momentarily here. It was interesting
Speaker 3: for at least a half, but Oklahoma is the one
Speaker 3: that prevails here. They are going to square off against LSU,
Speaker 3: which we'll talk about next. I believe I saw that
Speaker 3: the points spread now has Goost all the way up
Speaker 3: to like eleven or twelve points in favor of LSU,
Speaker 3: which does not surprise me one iota.
Speaker 1: Can we use the word goose now moving forward for
Speaker 1: the way lines move? This one's goosen down all the
Speaker 1: way to three? I love it. Did I say goost?
Speaker 1: I used usage like this one, this one goost all
Speaker 1: the way up to ten? Or that means don't know
Speaker 1: how that happened? I mean Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: Congratulations they're going to the playoff, and on the Baylor's side,
Speaker 3: congratulations to them on a great year. They're going to
Speaker 3: the Sugar Bowl to square off against Georgia. It as
Speaker 3: their first trip to the Sugar Bowl since I believe
Speaker 3: the Heyday of nineteen fifty.
Speaker 1: Seven, if memory serves. Wow, okay, cool, so good on them.
Speaker 3: Good season. Fun game was meant to be. As Matt
Speaker 3: Ruhle said, I want you guys to feel the pain,
Speaker 3: feel the pain and use that in the off season
Speaker 3: to drive. You Yeah, in the SEC title game, we
Speaker 3: had LSU thirty seven Georgia ten dan. So the great
Speaker 3: part about Championship Week for everyone and especially for us,
Speaker 3: is that you can watch all the games from start
Speaker 3: to finish. Normally, we're leafing through box scores or reading
Speaker 3: game caps, trying to piece things together after the fact
Speaker 3: as best we can, because we can't watch all these
Speaker 3: games in the morning before we record. I actually could
Speaker 3: watch this game. I didn't just jot down stats and
Speaker 3: things that jumped out at me. I jotted doubt what
Speaker 3: I was feeling as a man whoa okay?
Speaker 1: How this game?
Speaker 3: Because because it's it's an emotional sport it is we
Speaker 3: try to tap into the passion here on the solid ribble,
Speaker 3: What did you feel? First off, I didn't feel for
Speaker 3: one second like Georgia had a shot, okay, and I
Speaker 3: know I picked him. I got a little crazy twenty
Speaker 3: eight twenty seven in the preview, but whatever that went
Speaker 3: out the window. On ls's opening drive, when Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: went four or five passing, he threw a touchdown, he
Speaker 3: was calm, cool and collected. I knew then this Georgia
Speaker 3: defense straight up elite. They're good they're great. Maybe they'll
Speaker 3: force some plays the rest of the way, but they
Speaker 3: weren't stopping LSU, and LSU shredded them, absolutely shredded them.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow had four touchdowns, almost three point fifty passing.
Speaker 3: He's gonna win the Hives and he's gonna get picked
Speaker 3: by the Bengals and go back home to Ohio. It's
Speaker 3: been a remarkable year for him and it just keeps
Speaker 3: going all correct. Secondly, yeah, this LSU defense was something huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, any team that can claim Derek Stingley as
Speaker 1: one of their own, pretty good spot to be in.
Speaker 3: Georgia couldn't run at all. It was basically all on
Speaker 3: Jake from who was into a bunch of backups to
Speaker 3: be fair, but yeah, he also missed a bunch of
Speaker 3: throws the defense though for LSU, that was the thing
Speaker 3: that as we sat here all year trying to split hairs,
Speaker 3: trying to find the weak spots, that was the most
Speaker 3: obvious thing. And I'm not going to pretend that this
Speaker 3: is a high power Georgia offense. It's not, but still
Speaker 3: a total shutdown, Like this is why LSU got that
Speaker 3: number one seed.
Speaker 1: They played and this is one of my favorite turns
Speaker 1: of phrase in football. LC defense played like they had
Speaker 1: their hair on fire in their ears back. They had
Speaker 1: third in California's that they forced. I think they held
Speaker 1: Georgia completely down on third down as well. They came
Speaker 1: up big in those moments. But LSU was the very
Speaker 1: this is not controversial, clear better team in this matchup.
Speaker 1: And I like that Georgia took some shots early and
Speaker 1: we had you know, we had a drop to open
Speaker 1: up the game. We had a decent enough throw that
Speaker 1: was you know, catchuple out of bounds, but it was
Speaker 1: it was very clear once Georgia wasn't connecting with those
Speaker 1: that there wasn't a CounterPunch that there wasn't a receiver
Speaker 1: who could take over the game and the way that
Speaker 1: you know, Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson did and they
Speaker 1: you know, LS you had a pretty big drop too
Speaker 1: on what looked like it was gonna be like a
Speaker 1: seventy yard touchdown. But ellis, I don't know, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has it. Yeah, I mean we saw that
Speaker 1: play where he bought all that time in the backfield
Speaker 1: and rolled out and you know, hit a guy downfield
Speaker 1: and there was just there's just something about LSU and
Speaker 1: the confidence with which they play in this offense against
Speaker 1: the Georgia defense that's incredible. But they can only do
Speaker 1: it for so long if they're going to be on
Speaker 1: the field that long because of their own offense.
Speaker 3: Have I used the comparison before of like the end
Speaker 3: of the Matrix, the first Matrix when Neo is fighting
Speaker 3: the agent after he becomes the one. I've used that, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: you have. I felt like that watching Joe Burrow because
Speaker 3: nothing at all rattled him. It didn't seem like he
Speaker 3: was at all at all confused or panicked or anything.
Speaker 3: He was very calm. His pocket presence was incredible, and
Speaker 3: he was delivering passes on time and at the right spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was what seventeen three at half time
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't have even been that close. It was
Speaker 1: basically LSU from start to finish. And I tweeted this
Speaker 1: out that the way LSU plays where they just ripped
Speaker 1: the brake out of the car and they're just constantly
Speaker 1: on the gas. We saw it at the end of
Speaker 1: the Texas game. We've seen it each week that they play,
Speaker 1: that they are trying to score touchdowns on every play.
Speaker 1: That might sound like an obvious thing, that might sound like, yes,
Speaker 1: of course, we're trying to score a touchdown every play.
Speaker 1: No you're not. You are sometimes going into a shell.
Speaker 1: LSU doesn't have a shell, and they have been incredible
Speaker 1: to watch all year, going thirteen to zero. They are
Speaker 1: my number one seeded team. The case isn't the strongest.
Speaker 1: Even make a pretty strong case for Clemson. You can
Speaker 1: make a pretty strong case for Ohio State as well.
Speaker 1: But with what LSU did against their opponents, against the
Speaker 1: talent level that they faced, I just I was not
Speaker 1: impressed by a team more than I was this season. No,
Speaker 1: I agree that I was with LSU.
Speaker 3: So in effect, we are merging the SEC and the
Speaker 3: Big Twelve as we move into bowl season. We've got
Speaker 3: LSU Oklahoma. As we said before, LSU goosed all the
Speaker 3: way up to about a twelve point favorite.
Speaker 1: We've got Georgia and Baylor playing in the Sugar.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that point spread yet, maybe it'll be
Speaker 3: up by the end of the show. Take the under.
Speaker 3: Not a bad bet Georgia Baylor, Yeah, not a bad
Speaker 3: bet over in the Big Ten. So this one was
Speaker 3: on Saturday evening and there was some doubt here. There
Speaker 3: was some doubt here about what could happen. Could Wisconsin
Speaker 3: give Ohio State a game? And the answer, at least
Speaker 3: early was yes. Ohio State came out flat, turned it
Speaker 3: over on downs, punted, fumbled, and then scored a touchdown
Speaker 3: before halftime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fumbled deep into the Wisconsin red zone. But deep
Speaker 1: into the Wisconsin red zone. The buck guys went into
Speaker 1: the locker room down twenty one to seven.
Speaker 3: As I said before Gush Johnson's yelling out Captain Jack
Speaker 3: for Jack Cone, I still felt confident. I didn't believe
Speaker 3: what my eyes were seeing. And sure enough, Wisconsin did
Speaker 3: not score the rest.
Speaker 1: Of the way.
Speaker 3: Ohio State just ripped off twenty four unanswered. They won
Speaker 3: by thirteen. They will be your number two seed in
Speaker 3: the upcoming playoff, Dan.
Speaker 1: They will. And the way it happened, and if you're
Speaker 1: listening to this, you probably watched, but Wisconsin came out incredibly.
Speaker 1: They rushed the pass, they rushed us in fields. They
Speaker 1: overwhelmed the Ohio State line offensively, even when they would
Speaker 1: get behind the sticks, whether it was third and eight
Speaker 1: or something like that, all of a sudden, Jack CON's
Speaker 1: rushing for twelve yeah, Jack Cone Man, Yeah, Jack Cone
Speaker 1: was wonderful. In the first half, Quintes Cephis was getting
Speaker 1: open and making plays. They were doing those short little
Speaker 1: slants against the Ohio State defense. And then Ohio State
Speaker 1: started blocking. Ohio State started dropping guys directly into those
Speaker 1: passing lines, and the CounterPunch that Wisconsin needed to have
Speaker 1: in addition to not dropping a snapped punt and just
Speaker 1: generally going into their own shell just wasn't there. The
Speaker 1: CounterPunch didn't happen, and it was what twenty four to
Speaker 1: twenty one. At a certain point, Ohio State takes the
Speaker 1: lead and you're like, Okay, this is where a championship
Speaker 1: caliber team, which is what Wisconsin showed themselves to be
Speaker 1: in the first half, makes their adjustment and regroups. And
Speaker 1: this is what Wisconsin did. As soon as they went
Speaker 1: down twenty four to twenty one. They punted after three plays,
Speaker 1: and then they went down ten and they punted after
Speaker 1: three plays, and then there's still plenty of time left
Speaker 1: and they turn it over on downs and just it
Speaker 1: was the separation of great from good. And that's if
Speaker 1: there is a theme, I guess, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's Oklahoma separating themselves from Baylor, but we saw it
Speaker 1: with Oregon and Utah, we saw it from LSU and Georgia.
Speaker 1: It's definitely saw from Clemson Virginia. At a certain point,
Speaker 1: talent takes over. And whether it was Chase Young opening
Speaker 1: things up for both himself and the defensive line up
Speaker 1: Ohio State, whether it was Chris o'lave and Benjamin Victor
Speaker 1: for Ohio State. JK. Dobbins finally got going in the
Speaker 1: second half there needed to be and this was something
Speaker 1: did we talk about with Clemson Virginia, like these are
Speaker 1: the things? You know, Virginia needs all seven of these
Speaker 1: things to happen to be in this show.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wisconsin needed two or three of those. They needed
Speaker 1: that scoop and score. They needed that punt return touchdown,
Speaker 1: they needed that broken play and it didn't seem like
Speaker 1: it at twenty one seven. But at a certain point,
Speaker 1: talent is just going to inflict itself and that's what happened.
Speaker 1: It is what happened.
Speaker 3: And to your point, from one of the shows we
Speaker 3: did last week, Justin Fields did seem a bit off
Speaker 3: early and it might have been because of that knee
Speaker 3: injury he was wearing the bulky knee brace. Wisconsin came
Speaker 3: at him. They sacked him five times on the night,
Speaker 3: but most importantly, he did regroup in the second half.
Speaker 3: Talent did prevail. Yeah, in this sense. He went twelve
Speaker 3: of seventeen in the second half when Ohio State came
Speaker 3: charging back.
Speaker 1: Do you know what his ratios are in the year?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Tell me.
Speaker 3: He finishes the season with a forty to one touchdown
Speaker 3: to interception ratio and his first year as a starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. I'll say it right now, I'll plant
Speaker 1: my flag. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: It dawned on me yesterday watching this game that both
Speaker 3: Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence are going to be in
Speaker 3: the same draft class next year. They are perhaps with
Speaker 3: Jake fromm if he stays, Sam Ellinger, Jacob Eason, some
Speaker 3: others that I don't have time to mention. So yeah,
Speaker 3: looking like a loaded class next year.
Speaker 1: I think Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence may separate themselves
Speaker 1: from those other guys.
Speaker 3: I would agree, but I'm just saying some big names
Speaker 3: if you're a college football fan that could be coming out.
Speaker 3: By the way, do we know is Jack Cone dead?
Speaker 3: After that last hit?
Speaker 1: I don't mean to laugh. I hope he's okay. I
Speaker 1: hope he didn't break a rind with somebody. I hope
Speaker 1: he didn't get the wind knocked out of him.
Speaker 3: Somebody sent me a tweet with the clip saying that, yeah,
Speaker 3: you can barely see him getting up in the background,
Speaker 3: so we're confident he's still breathing, but it would have
Speaker 3: been courteous for someone to at least confirm that he's
Speaker 3: still alive, because that was a hell of a shot
Speaker 3: he took on that last play.
Speaker 1: I saw him running towards the pylon, and it all
Speaker 1: slowed down for me once I saw the angle that
Speaker 1: Ohio State had on him, and I just let out
Speaker 1: a no. I was watching it because man, that came
Speaker 1: right after that wild catch, right that he sort of
Speaker 1: threw up and got them down near the goal line,
Speaker 1: and then him trying to run for a score, and
Speaker 1: it was just not going to happen. You're just like,
Speaker 1: oh God, they're going to separate his spleen from his body,
Speaker 1: aren't they. They look like they turned his ribs into truros,
Speaker 1: and I hope that's not the case.
Speaker 3: So he said before Wisconsin going to the Rose Ball
Speaker 3: squaring off against your defending Red box Ball champion Oregon Ducks.
Speaker 1: I was there the last time they played. Terrific ex experience.
Speaker 1: Let me know, Wisconsin fans or Oregon fans if you
Speaker 1: need Alli food recommendations, always here.
Speaker 3: And Ohio State finishes as the number two team in
Speaker 3: the country at least according to the playoff rankings, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna square off against Clemson, your ACC champion. Clemson
Speaker 3: wins sixty two to seventeen over Virginia. It is their
Speaker 3: twenty eighth straight win, their fifth straight playoff Berth.
Speaker 1: I think we expected this kind of game.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we expected it to be this ugly,
Speaker 3: but thirty one to seven at a half never close.
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence sixteen of twenty two three oh eight, four touchdowns,
Speaker 3: A monster game for t Higgins nine for one eighty
Speaker 3: two and three touchdowns. Dan. There was a moment early
Speaker 3: when Virginia tied it at seven on a nice pass
Speaker 3: from Bryce Perkins, and I believe Bryce Perkins did about
Speaker 3: all in his power to try and make this one close.
Speaker 3: Clemson's just that much better. Forty five points to the victor.
Speaker 3: I think was an intentional statement by Dabo Sweeney. I
Speaker 3: know he's been trying to feign some sort of like
Speaker 3: outrage about what's going on and.
Speaker 1: They don't want us in the play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we're third, we're defending champions and we're getting
Speaker 3: toy bus.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: But they're gonna give Ohio State all Ohio State can
Speaker 3: handle Ohio State. I believe open as a small favorite there,
Speaker 3: the line quickly shifted in Clemson's direction that time of recording.
Speaker 3: They might be about a two or three point favorite.
Speaker 1: Now. Trevor Lawrence's numbers I think since the was Louisville
Speaker 1: where he had the really slow start and throw a
Speaker 1: couple of bucks, since that those picks has been lights out.
Speaker 1: The way Clemson plays is that it really looks like
Speaker 1: they treat every opponent like a nameless, faceless team. On
Speaker 1: the other side, there's there's no emotion, there's no This
Speaker 1: almost sounds like a negative thing, but like it. They
Speaker 1: look so well trained and so well practiced that whether
Speaker 1: it's Tan, whether it's Justin Ross, whether it's Traves Ytn,
Speaker 1: whether it's Trevor Lawrence, that whatever they're facing in practice
Speaker 1: is harder than what they're going to play in the ACC.
Speaker 1: So they're going through the motions in the most and
Speaker 1: I mean that as a compliment that it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: that you're trying to tackle them, it doesn't matter that
Speaker 1: you're trying to hang with them on these passing routes.
Speaker 1: They're just concerned with the ball and getting into the
Speaker 1: end zone. And when you look at how efficiently they
Speaker 1: do it, whether they score two touchdowns every quarter, yep,
Speaker 1: like it's it's not like their offense's job is to
Speaker 1: move the ball. It's just like, Okay, we need to
Speaker 1: get our fourteen every quarter. That's who we are now,
Speaker 1: and they're just their machine. And I think right now
Speaker 1: Clemson's best might be better than anybody else in the
Speaker 1: country's best because of how complete they look. Now it's
Speaker 1: an ACC schedule. The best team they played in the
Speaker 1: non conference part of the schedule was Texas A and M.
Speaker 1: We don't know how good Clemson is when measured against
Speaker 1: the best, but buddy, they are a machine out there.
Speaker 3: The best tweet that I read about Clemson all day
Speaker 3: today and kind of the build up to seeing where
Speaker 3: they would end up in the playoff matchup, was from
Speaker 3: a friend, Spencer Hall, and he said that he wants
Speaker 3: to hop on the bandwagon that Ohio State better watched
Speaker 3: themselves because Clemson's just starting to play for real.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we saw that last year. That was a
Speaker 1: very much the same time last speaking at the right time. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: So Clemson wins big, they win the ACC Championship. They're
Speaker 3: going back to the playoff, as we said, for the
Speaker 3: fifth straight year. They will square off against Ohio State.
Speaker 3: They're a small favorite. That game will be out in Glendale,
Speaker 3: Arizona mm HM at the Fiesta Bowl. The other matchup
Speaker 3: between Oklahoma and LSU is going to be played at
Speaker 3: the Peach Bowl in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool. I like all these things.
Speaker 3: So that's where we stand in terms of Power five games. Yes, Daniel,
Speaker 3: there were a few other matchups here that I'll run
Speaker 3: through very quickly. We had in the American Memphis winning
Speaker 3: That was actually a really good game, amazing game, great game,
Speaker 3: came down to the wire. Memphis won by five over
Speaker 3: Cincinnati by a twenty nine to twenty four score.
Speaker 1: Mike Norvel and Florida State made.
Speaker 3: It Facebook official after the game. He is headed to
Speaker 3: Tallahassee to coach the Seminoles in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: I believe he is staying on for the bowl game
Speaker 1: against Penn State. Yeah, I think I saw that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not positive. Antonio Gibson was terrific on the ground.
Speaker 1: Normally we're having this conversation about Kenneth Gainwell, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw that sixty plus yard touchdown
Speaker 1: run of his. Oh, incredible, ridiculous, and they needed it
Speaker 1: because the passing game wasn't necessarily there all that often.
Speaker 1: I mean, demonte Coaxley was great, but otherwise it was
Speaker 1: a matter of I thought the Memphis defense actually did
Speaker 1: a terrific job. As soon as Cincinnati seemed to get
Speaker 1: momentum Desmond Ritter returns as starting quarterback, but Cincinnati would
Speaker 1: get a little bit of juice or goose as you
Speaker 1: would like to say, they would goose up the scoreboard
Speaker 1: a little bit. And Memphis did a terrific job, whether
Speaker 1: it was on third downs, whether it was forcing fumbles
Speaker 1: or interceptions. It was a really nice and if you're
Speaker 1: a Florida State fan, it's hard not to feel encouraged
Speaker 1: by what Mike Norvel has accomplished at Memphis on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. And really cool season for the Tigers.
Speaker 3: So Cincinnati will be squaring off against Boston College in
Speaker 3: the ticket Smarter Birmingham Bull. Okay, cool since he against
Speaker 3: Boston College. And on the Memphis side, as we said,
Speaker 3: it's a Cotton Bowl and they're squaring off against Penn State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Boston College obviously does not currently have a head
Speaker 1: coach of the future. A lot of smoke has surrounded
Speaker 1: Jeff Hafley, the secondary and associate defensive coordinator for Ohio State,
Speaker 1: who is incredibly regarded there and what he's done a
Speaker 1: short time in Columbus. And we'll see what happens in
Speaker 1: that bole.
Speaker 3: In the Mountain West, it was Boise by a thirty
Speaker 3: one to ten final over Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: We've got Boise now squaring off against Washington in a
Speaker 3: bowl game, the Chris Peterson Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sort of final game for Washington.
Speaker 3: Interesting plot shift in the Subishi Motors Las Vegas Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yes, I cannot recommend not playing Boise State enough in
Speaker 1: the Vegas Bowl. It's a pain in the ass. Hopefully
Speaker 1: late and vander ash does not have any younger siblings.
Speaker 1: The good news is if you're a Boise fan, Jalen
Speaker 1: Henderson made plays for the Broncos, which was helpful because
Speaker 1: Hawaii did a nice job against George Hallani and the
Speaker 1: rushing attack on the ground. But really it was the
Speaker 1: Boise defense the story here, holding Hawaii to ten points.
Speaker 1: And yes it was home. Yes it's far away from Honolulu,
Speaker 1: but Boise a very quiet twelve and one impressive season
Speaker 1: finishing I don't know, the top fifteen somewhere in there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so really cool to see white.
Speaker 3: By the way, going back to Aloha Stadium in Honolulu
Speaker 3: for the SOFI Hawaii Bowl. They play it on Christmas
Speaker 3: Eve and BYU is going to be making the trip.
Speaker 1: Great cool, I'll watch.
Speaker 3: In the Sun Belt, we had app State going up
Speaker 3: real big, real early against Louisiana, and Louisiana came charging back.
Speaker 3: It was too little, too late, but forty five to
Speaker 3: thirty eight is your final here. As app State continues
Speaker 3: a really good twenty nineteen campaign under Eli Drinkquitz.
Speaker 1: Yes, Eli drinkquentz, Eli Drinkquitz. Excuse me has done a
Speaker 1: terrific job with app State. In year one, they, as
Speaker 1: you mentioned, also jumped on Louisiana or Louisiana. Laughya, I
Speaker 1: always forgot the Raging Caguns. We'll say early, but really
Speaker 1: good job by the Raging Caguns jumping back and making
Speaker 1: this a game. Levi Lewis did a good job, always
Speaker 1: like a good lefty quarterback. And I don't know what
Speaker 1: there is to take away beyond it'd be cool if
Speaker 1: Eli Drinkquitz stayed for a while, but it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like that is necessarily the case. He's gotten a lot
Speaker 1: of interest and it looks like he and Miszoo may
Speaker 1: be hot and heavy. We'll see and uh yeah for
Speaker 1: year one to keep the train going for the Mountaineers. Impressive.
Speaker 3: The Mountaineers are headed to the RNL Carrier's New Orleans
Speaker 3: Bowl to square off against the UAB Dragons.
Speaker 1: Their mascot is a dragon, but they are the Blazers.
Speaker 3: And on the Louisiana side, they're squaring off against Miami
Speaker 3: of Ohio in the Lending Tree Bowl. Hmm, okay, good
Speaker 3: year for them. Ten and three, Yeah, absolutely, Miami of Ohio.
Speaker 3: Miami of Ohio wins the map. Yes, they do twenty
Speaker 3: snibles to twenty one over Central Michigan.
Speaker 1: Dan Yeah, Jim mackoin did a terrific job bringing the
Speaker 1: uh bringing the Chips back to this game. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Chuck Martin, your guy, my boy, Chuck Martin has done.
Speaker 1: I don't think they had an amazing season. They went
Speaker 1: seven and five, but they did really well in the MAC.
Speaker 1: They had a I don't know who they played in
Speaker 1: the non conference portion of their schedule. I'm bringing it
Speaker 1: up right now. Oh, they had Iowa and Cincinnati SO
Speaker 1: and Ohio State. That's legitimate. Those losses. I'm going to
Speaker 1: go out on a limb and say legit. But Miami
Speaker 1: really impressive season, go to a bowl game, win the MAC. Outstanding,
Speaker 1: Miami goes to the bowl game.
Speaker 3: Central Michigan go into a bowl game of their own.
Speaker 3: It's the New Mexico Bowl.
Speaker 1: They are squaring off against San Diego State. Is it
Speaker 1: Russell Athletics still or no. They had a whole controversy, right,
Speaker 1: It was a whole ball with a potentially non existent
Speaker 1: company sponsoring the New Mexico Bowl. We could do that, right,
Speaker 1: we could. We are definitely a non existent company.
Speaker 3: In Conference USA, FAU a big, big win over UAB
Speaker 3: forty nine to six. The big story here was actually
Speaker 3: that the lane train Link Kiff now has now arrived
Speaker 3: in Oxford Mississippi, Ole Miss making the move bringing Lane
Speaker 3: kiff In back to the SEC. And you know what,
Speaker 3: I actually I was very curious. I went back and
Speaker 3: I found one of our old clips from many moons
Speaker 3: ago where we actually fleshed out what the Lane Kiffin
Speaker 3: over underline was for head coaching jobs in his career.
Speaker 3: The line was not four and a half the line.
Speaker 3: The line was five. Oh okay, So he is sitting
Speaker 3: on that number right now. And the question which we
Speaker 3: can ask at some other point in time, is will
Speaker 3: we get to six?
Speaker 1: I think it's possible. If we get to six, do
Speaker 1: you think it means he has crashed and burned at
Speaker 1: Old Miss or is advancing once again? So from the
Speaker 1: ashes of what happened at USC, coordinator at Alabama and
Speaker 1: then the head job again at FAU, making his way
Speaker 1: back up obviously all Miss and upgrade over FAU in
Speaker 1: terms of college football status. Which direction from here?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: I could go either way? Well, there's only two. I'm inclined.
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to say up.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm inclined to say I don't feel strongly, but
Speaker 3: I think he did a pretty good job at FAU.
Speaker 3: I think he's done a pretty good job sort of,
Speaker 3: you know, rectifying his image, and he should be able
Speaker 3: to recruit at ol miss. We know recruiting has always
Speaker 3: been a strength of his. At a minimum, he'll keep
Speaker 3: things interesting. He'll talk about you can recruit at all miss.
Speaker 3: I don't know what exactly happens to get things done,
Speaker 3: but you know he can recruit there. It's been done
Speaker 3: before Dan correct, so I think he'll be all right there.
Speaker 1: What is the upward mobility at a place that is
Speaker 1: fast and loose enough to say, yeah, we want Lane
Speaker 1: here is I Florida State Miami and I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I guess Notre Dame. No, I don't think, mmmm, oh
Speaker 3: that would be wonderful. FAU again wins by a forty
Speaker 3: three point margin, a big win. I think I saw
Speaker 3: their second Conference USA title in about three years. They
Speaker 3: are squaring off against SMU in the Cherubundi Boca Ratone Bowl.
Speaker 1: Cherub Button Day. Yes, a terrific job Conference USA play
Speaker 1: for for FAU. Chris Robison was a Malcolm Davidson had
Speaker 1: a nice game. B jmmons. Obviously people know that name,
Speaker 1: so yeah, very very I mean, it's it's an impressive job.
Speaker 1: He's done at FAU. It's you can't say it anyway
Speaker 1: other way.
Speaker 3: And we already mentioned UAB the Blazers scoring off against
Speaker 3: app State, and I believe that's it. I think I
Speaker 3: got them all. Oh, and then there's this one.
Speaker 1: The Mule at Burg Mules, baby.
Speaker 3: Woo.
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania's one true team.
Speaker 3: Let's not get crazy, but Eastern Pennsylvania's one true team
Speaker 3: at this rate. Okay, Muhlenberg wins twenty four to eight
Speaker 3: over Salisbury. They are the last remaining undefeated team okay
Speaker 3: in the Division three bracket. The next game against a
Speaker 3: team called North Central from Illinois is going to be
Speaker 3: played up the road here about fifteen minutes on Saturday.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about making the trip up really Scotty Wood Stadium, baby, thinking.
Speaker 1: Of making the trip. Okay, good for you. So on
Speaker 1: ESPN three, make sure you watch, even though the Patriot
Speaker 1: League is long out of it. In the FCS playoffs,
Speaker 1: James Madison stomped Monmouth Northern Iowa close over the Jacks
Speaker 1: of South Dakota State. North Dakota State comfortably over. I
Speaker 1: believe it was Nichols Austin Peke took it to Sack
Speaker 1: State sax State, I think had a bye the first round,
Speaker 1: so there was an upset there, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's anying. Montana laid it on Southeast Louisiana. Montana
Speaker 1: State over Albany, Kennessas State, who had themselves a year
Speaker 1: goes down to Weber State. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: it out to do, but I know it's in Utah
Speaker 1: and Illinois State over Central Arkansas. All right, Well, there
Speaker 1: you have it, Dan, Yes, Can I ask you some
Speaker 1: questions please? Okay? First of all, one through four college
Speaker 1: football Playoff? Are you okay with how they how everything
Speaker 1: was seated and played out? Yeah? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: I think this year maybe more so than any other
Speaker 3: that I can remember, it seemed pretty obvious after conference
Speaker 3: championship week what the seating was going to be.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm totally cool with it. Okay, do you have
Speaker 1: specific matchups? I mean, obviously Ohio State Clemson is going
Speaker 1: to jump out a little bit more than LSU Oklahoma
Speaker 1: at this point, with how Oklahoma's played some closer games
Speaker 1: and looked a little bit more vulnerable and what you said,
Speaker 1: it was goosed up to like ten and a half
Speaker 1: eleven points now we're at twelve. Now we're at twelve.
Speaker 1: Now I said twelve? Can I say twelve and a half?
Speaker 1: That damn pots? Can I ghost at the ten and
Speaker 1: a half. In terms of Bowl matchups outside of this
Speaker 1: New Year Six matchups? Yeah, what's tickling you so? New
Speaker 1: Year's six matchups?
Speaker 3: A couple here to read off, I already mentioned a
Speaker 3: couple of these. But the Rose Bowl Wisconsin against Oregon
Speaker 3: to me feels maybe a lot more defensive than sure
Speaker 3: then the last time.
Speaker 1: Oregon was here. Yeah, the injuries are like too, was it?
Speaker 1: Wisconsin's linebackers go down in the game certainly affected Wisconsin's defense.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they're back. I don't know how their prognosis is
Speaker 1: on in front of me right now. Capitol One Orange
Speaker 1: Bowl is Florida against Virginia. I'm happy for Virginia being
Speaker 1: in this game. I don't particularly want to watch this
Speaker 1: game though. Yeah, this could be a rough TV.
Speaker 3: We mentioned Georgia Baylor could also be a very defensive
Speaker 3: minded football game to say the least.
Speaker 1: Penn State Memphis Penn.
Speaker 3: State Memphis could be interesting actually because one of the
Speaker 3: issues that we've seen come to light for Penn State
Speaker 3: in last couple of weeks has been their past defense.
Speaker 1: And we know Memphis likes aired out Penn State or
Speaker 1: Wisconsin in the rows. Do you think they got that right?
Speaker 3: I I don't know.
Speaker 1: I could go either way.
Speaker 3: I heard what Rob Mullen said. I understand that they
Speaker 3: feel Wisconsin did enough in the Big Ten championship game
Speaker 3: to warrant staying in front of Penn State. I mean
Speaker 3: they got drilled the first time. They played Ohio State
Speaker 3: by thirty one, and they gave away a fourteen point
Speaker 3: lead in the second half.
Speaker 1: Six quarters, It went on long enough time. I'm good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, obviously I would have
Speaker 3: preferred Penn State.
Speaker 1: But Wisconsin has the worst loss Wisconsin losing to Illinois,
Speaker 1: but they have probably the better wins, and that they
Speaker 1: really did separate themselves from Michigan. And you know, a
Speaker 1: big Penn State loss to Minnesota, I mean it was close,
Speaker 1: but that it was a meaningful loss to Minnesota. Wisconsin
Speaker 1: left no doubt against the Gophers. So if you are
Speaker 1: placing the value of good wins over bad losses, Wisconsin
Speaker 1: seems like the choice. And I you know, you definitely
Speaker 1: don't punish them for that third loss because they had
Speaker 1: the pleasure of going up against Ohio State again in
Speaker 1: the Big Ten championship game. So I think I'm okay
Speaker 1: with it, and I think it's it's sort of raiser
Speaker 1: thin to me. Other questions, other questions non New Year
Speaker 1: six Bowl games that simply jump out to you as
Speaker 1: television you'd like to watch? Between what is it? When
Speaker 1: did the games start? Like December eighteenth or something? The
Speaker 1: games start actually on December twentieth, twenty, Okay, so between
Speaker 1: the twentieth and I guess the thirteenth being the National championship.
Speaker 3: Sure, well we mentioned the Chris Peterson Bowl boise against
Speaker 3: Washington is intriguing just because there's that added storyline to it.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 3: I am interested in the Texas Bowl Oklahoma State, Texas
Speaker 3: A and M.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that feels like it's going to get weird for sure.
Speaker 1: That looks like a fun game.
Speaker 3: I'm obviously interested in the Camping World Bowl between Notre
Speaker 3: Dame and Iowa State, which figures to be a fun matchup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you feel about that? I you haven't
Speaker 1: looked into it extensively, but as a have not opponent.
Speaker 3: Into it extensively. Feels like the kind of game that
Speaker 3: Iowa State carves up Notre Dame secondary and it goes
Speaker 3: the route of a shootout.
Speaker 1: Mississippi State Louisville. I think they always play in bowl games.
Speaker 1: Is that how I feel, how we're operating, feel that way?
Speaker 1: Red box Ball is Cal Illinois and I still haven't
Speaker 1: received my hat. But a nice story because well, I
Speaker 1: guess Cal's playing basically at home. But Illinois in a
Speaker 1: bowl game is always something that I appreciate. Virginia Tech
Speaker 1: Kentucky Lynn Bowden, Oh, good game, Bud Foster. Yeah, Virginia
Speaker 1: Tech just I think promoted from within to replace him
Speaker 1: their secondary coach, Justin Hamilton. I want to say his
Speaker 1: name is Florida State, Arizona State, herm and al Paso
Speaker 1: Odell Haggins. Yeah, I don't know. I mean I just
Speaker 1: love the Sun Bowl in general, the Navy, Kansas State
Speaker 1: and the Liberty Bowl. Does that do anything for you? No?
Speaker 3: But Minnesota Auburn in the Outback Bowl does.
Speaker 1: Yes. I'm excited about that game.
Speaker 3: And to that end, another New Year's Day game, the
Speaker 3: VRBO Citrus Bowl Michigan Alabama is to heavyweights. I think
Speaker 3: Alabama will kill Michigan Michigan.
Speaker 1: Not the greatest track record under Jim Harbaugh. No in
Speaker 1: bowl games. No, but an interesting matchup on its face. Indiana,
Speaker 1: Tennessee the Tennisans. Can we continue it in Jacksonville? Not bad?
Speaker 1: Tax Slayer Bowl, Tax Player, Gator Bowl.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, yes, So there's not a time that jump out.
Speaker 3: But here's the way that we do this for new listeners,
Speaker 3: for people who have listened for a while, we run
Speaker 3: a bull pool. It's a confidence pool, which means you
Speaker 3: pick the winner and then you assign a certain number
Speaker 3: of confidence points, from one if you're at least confident,
Speaker 3: all the way up through forty if you're most confident.
Speaker 3: We'll talk through all of this again. You don't have
Speaker 3: to take notes, especially those of you writing in your vehicle,
Speaker 3: but we're going to go through all of these bowl
Speaker 3: games a couple shows from now and all throughout the offseason.
Speaker 3: Here the early part of the offseason, as we're doing
Speaker 3: coaching news and other stuff, we're going to break down
Speaker 3: all these games to the best of our ability.
Speaker 1: It's a huge bullpool.
Speaker 3: Will send out the links as soon as it's available,
Speaker 3: but make sure you are ready to go and jump
Speaker 3: on in.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go through all these though, and they're still
Speaker 3: coming out. As we said at time of recording, I
Speaker 3: think most of them are in place now. But we're
Speaker 3: excited to talk Bowl season. We also are excited to
Speaker 3: talk about Bowl gifts, which I think secretly we get
Speaker 3: a little bit more excited about than the actual matchups themselves.
Speaker 1: Memphis has named Ryan Silverfield interim head coach, which makes
Speaker 1: me think that Mike Norvell will not be coaching Memphis
Speaker 1: and the Button Bowl against pemp State almost a double
Speaker 1: letdown matchup pep State thinking they're going to the Rose,
Speaker 1: Memphis losing their head coach, mentioned Eli Drinkwitz and Miszoo.
Speaker 1: Sam Pittman has emerged as a leading candidate at the
Speaker 1: time that we are recording this to take over at Arkansas,
Speaker 1: where he had a ton of success under Brett Bilmah.
Speaker 1: Just if you remember November from what twenty fourteen, it
Speaker 1: can be real fun. Yeah. In Fayetteville, Mike Bobo will
Speaker 1: be the new offensive coordinator at South Carolina quote barring
Speaker 1: a last minute change of heart. According to the Post
Speaker 1: and Courier, I read that as unless Georgia that's going
Speaker 1: to happen again. But he does have connections to both
Speaker 1: Wilmas Champ and Kirby Smart, Ricky Ronnie and South Carolina
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Traveris Robinson. Excuse me, are the candidates in
Speaker 1: the mix for the old Dominion head coaching job.
Speaker 3: I can tell you Grittenberg firsthand that there are a
Speaker 3: lot of Penn State fans who are desperate for him
Speaker 3: to take this job.
Speaker 1: Who I mean, James Franklin otherwise has had a pretty
Speaker 1: good track record of hiring assistants. I mean, he's had
Speaker 1: a very good track record. No, the Brent actually hire
Speaker 1: seems to have been pretty good, right, It's been very good,
Speaker 1: saying Ael moorehead.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of Penn State fans right now
Speaker 3: who are really really burning up the phone lines trying
Speaker 3: to get ODU to hire Ricky Ronnie away.
Speaker 1: Mike Norval gets a six year deal at Florida State,
Speaker 1: which I think it's I think is a good hire.
Speaker 1: I think it's just flat out a good hire. A
Speaker 1: lot of sort of a weird situation at Stanford. I
Speaker 1: think like five or six dudes have entered the transfer
Speaker 1: portal in like the last two days, Okay, and that
Speaker 1: I don't know if it has anything to do with it,
Speaker 1: but David Shaw is a leading candidate for both the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins and Carolina Panthers job. So maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I'm just I'm reading some
Speaker 1: tea leaves here. Joe Brady said after the SEC championship
Speaker 1: game that he absolutely will be in Baton Rouge next year,
Speaker 1: So it sounds like he and the Tigers will work
Speaker 1: out a what I can only assume a very lucrative contract. Obviously. Yes,
Speaker 1: FAU obviously now has an opening and they will scour,
Speaker 1: you know, the coaching ranks to find a new OWL
Speaker 1: head coach Lane Kiffin. All I saw was he brought
Speaker 1: over his strength coach from FAU to Ole Miss. But
Speaker 1: apparently his staff should be gangbusters. What if he brought
Speaker 1: Sark oh Man, that'd be crazy. Rutger has hired a
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator away from Temple, Greg Ciano, sort of starting
Speaker 1: to fill out his staff, and Graham Harrell is a hot, hot,
Speaker 1: hot commodity with what he did for the USC passing
Speaker 1: attack this past year. Apparently ran into Tom Herman. How
Speaker 1: that happens, right, Yes, So there's obviously a number of
Speaker 1: dominoes yet to take place with the coach and carousel.
Speaker 1: We will discuss any and all of these because we're
Speaker 1: gonna have some time on our hands. Oh next few weeks,
Speaker 1: we are going to make it a December to remember.
Speaker 1: I hope you're ready for this. Daniel should also mention
Speaker 1: Jeff Tedford is expected to step down at Fresno State.
Speaker 1: It seems like a pretty good job given the talent
Speaker 1: in California and success both he and you know, San
Speaker 1: Diego State have had on the G five level in
Speaker 1: the Mountain West so and even San Jose State bouncing
Speaker 1: back this year. So I think that's it. It's I
Speaker 1: think that's everything we've got. You know, Premieer coordinator hires
Speaker 1: to be made Missoo Arkansas open at the time of
Speaker 1: recording Memphis FAU, but Florida State hires Mike Norvell, Lane
Speaker 1: Kiffin to Ole miss are the big, big headliners, and
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Still another couple jobs open for
Speaker 1: a replacement. I have one thing to do here.
Speaker 3: I want to send a dood to alert out to
Speaker 3: Destiny Alfred who went overhand and won the Doctor Pepper tuition.
Speaker 1: To Friday night. So I saw this, and I gotta
Speaker 1: say she did a terrific job. She was very, very good.
Speaker 1: She was awesome. Now, it doesn't necessarily pay to bet
Speaker 1: on Team USA Olympic Hockey every year, right, correct, you're
Speaker 1: probably if it's your own money, thinking maybe I'm going
Speaker 1: Sweden or Canada. Sure, maybe whatever the Russian grouping is
Speaker 1: calling themselves if they're not actually eligible to represent their country.
Speaker 1: It's a great story, Tie, It's a great story. Chess
Speaker 1: passers came out on top overall overall, but we.
Speaker 3: Had that one, and that's why I sent my duodlelord
Speaker 3: out to Destiny Alfred get that cash, winning it the
Speaker 3: right way. Dan, there are still some of us out there.
Speaker 1: Ty, you've got your trio of kidlets. You would do
Speaker 1: the same thing in this position. We already talked this true,
Speaker 1: This is very true. All right, any other dudes for you,
Speaker 1: I mean, all over the place. I mean, Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: is a retired dude. He has to be at this point.
Speaker 1: I think Jacob On Thibodeau, Yeah, Caveon Thibodeau, certainly. Jacob Zeno, well,
Speaker 1: I mean it was a very brief moment in time
Speaker 1: he had that moment though, it was like moments it
Speaker 1: was a dude. It's like a story, like dude, story,
Speaker 1: dude to Jason. Yeah, he's a pre dude, right, like
Speaker 1: he's the quarterback of the future. That was a nice
Speaker 1: dude preview. Otherwise, I mean in the in the Ohio
Speaker 1: State game, I would say JK. Dobbins continues Chris Olave
Speaker 1: kJ Hill kJ Hill Obviously, I mean Jonathan Taylor tailback
Speaker 1: we've retired, but he was sensational in that that first half.
Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned t Higgins a whole lot this year. No,
Speaker 1: that the catch he made against Virginia was was something special.
Speaker 2: CJ.
Speaker 1: Verdell goes for over two hundred and uh and three
Speaker 1: touchdowns against the best or one of the best rush
Speaker 1: defenses in the country. Yeah, I don't know how much
Speaker 1: we have to I think, you know Kenneth Murray for
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma, sure was was all over the damn place.
Speaker 1: So yeah, dude's all over the place. Well, look, here
Speaker 1: is the deal.
Speaker 3: We've got another two's cruise m hm coming your way.
Speaker 3: Dan and I are excited about the twos cruise this week. Yes,
Speaker 3: that'll be out on Tuesday at six am. There will
Speaker 3: also be a show out on Thursday correct six a m.
Speaker 3: But after this week we switch up the schedule a bit.
Speaker 3: There's not as much to talk about, so stay tuned.
Speaker 3: We'll talk more about what that schedule looks like. Don't worry,
Speaker 3: you'll still get us multiple times per week, at least
Speaker 3: through the end of bowl season. Thank you so much
Speaker 3: to one and all for being part of the show,
Speaker 3: for downloading, listening, subscribing, you know the drill. We will
Speaker 3: be back another Tues cruise Tuesday morning, bright and early.
Speaker 3: Congratulations to all conference champions, all bull participants, and all
Speaker 3: members of the playoff. It's exciting. I'll talk to you
Speaker 3: soon in the meantime for myself, tie for that go
Speaker 3: over there, my good friend Dan Rubenstein talkie all in
Speaker 3: a few days.
Speaker 1: Meantime to day solid peace,