WEBVTT - Jaimee Michell - Gays Against Groomers

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, we have Jamie Michelle,

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<v Speaker 1>the founder and president of Gaze Against Groomers, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a nonprofit has many chapters rapidly growing. Jamie, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me. Buck. Good to see you again.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, it's been a while. I haven't seen your

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<v Speaker 1>person in a few years. Tell me what is Gaze

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<v Speaker 1>Against Groomers? A lot of people maybe you're hearing about

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<v Speaker 1>it for the first time. Your organization, what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, it's a nonprofit organization. We are a five

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<v Speaker 3>oh one C four and essentially we are a group

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<v Speaker 3>of LGB and T people that are fighting back against

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<v Speaker 3>the sexualization and doctrination and mutilation of children being done

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<v Speaker 3>en mass under the guise of LGBTQA plus US. So

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<v Speaker 3>we launched June of twenty twenty two and now it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just exploded on the scene. I was not

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<v Speaker 3>expecting that at all, but at this point now we

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<v Speaker 3>have over seven hundred thousand social media followers. I believe

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen chapters. You know, we've helped pass child protection laws

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<v Speaker 3>in eighteen states in a year, which is absolutely incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>And the team is growing every day, and yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 3>just we're grateful to be able to add our voices

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<v Speaker 3>to this fight because I think that our voices, I

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<v Speaker 3>think our growth are insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Growth has proven.

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<v Speaker 3>It really just shows how important our voices are from

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<v Speaker 3>inside the community, because straight people are often written off

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<v Speaker 3>as just homophobic, transphobic bigots the second they say that

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<v Speaker 3>they want to protect children, which obviously isn't true, and

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<v Speaker 3>we know that, so you know, they can't attack us

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<v Speaker 3>in quite the same way, although they try. Our Wikipedia

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<v Speaker 3>page actually says that we're a far right, anti LGBT

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<v Speaker 3>hate group, which is interesting. We're not anti our cells.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just pro child protection. So that's what we're doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>The word grooming obviously gets people, I'm sure, very very

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<v Speaker 1>fired up. What is explain to me that the grooming

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<v Speaker 1>that you think is occurring here or that how grooming

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<v Speaker 1>enters into the conversation, because I just remember, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was on Twitter on social media for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a real you know, anger and real backlash,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyone using that term about any of these individuals

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<v Speaker 1>even and this then comes up in the context of

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<v Speaker 1>like the Drag Queen Story Hour or even just the

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<v Speaker 1>drag show for kids stuff. Right, that's where it got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of attention. Well, what is it? What do

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<v Speaker 1>we call it when a fifty year old man or

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<v Speaker 1>a forty or you know, thirty five year old man

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<v Speaker 1>is dressed in fishnet stockings, high heels and a wig

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<v Speaker 1>and is shaking his butt in front of children, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that that is what you call grooming,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know why these people, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what other word to use.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the word groomer and the act of grooming.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's literally what it is. And grooming isn't

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<v Speaker 2>done solely.

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<v Speaker 3>By people that are you know, within the alphabet community,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's just being pushed so heavily from you know,

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<v Speaker 3>from us, from our community, not us as gays against groomers,

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<v Speaker 3>but people within the lgbt QI plus plus plus community

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<v Speaker 3>as well as you know, all of these powerful institutions

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<v Speaker 3>in the country are using us as a shield, using

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<v Speaker 3>our community as a shield to push it through. So no,

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<v Speaker 3>it is grooming and I remember very fondly when when

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter, you know, they tried to ban the word

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<v Speaker 3>grooming or the word groomer. They tried, they did ban it.

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<v Speaker 3>On Reddit, they claim that it's an anti LGBTQ hate

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<v Speaker 3>or slur, which I think is very demeaning and is

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<v Speaker 3>actually anti LGBTQ because that's basically saying that all gay

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<v Speaker 3>people and all trans people are supposed to be offended

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<v Speaker 3>by calling out pedophiles and predators, or that we are them.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I don't think that these people understand, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side that that want to say that

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<v Speaker 3>groomer is an anti LGBTQ slur, I don't think they

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<v Speaker 3>quite understand what they're doing. It's actually more harmful to

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<v Speaker 3>our community to you know, gay's, lesbians, trans people to

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<v Speaker 3>to say that, and the backlash is coming, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the backlash is already here. It's it's growing against our

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<v Speaker 3>community because you know, all you see coming from it

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<v Speaker 3>is this attack on children. And I wish the people

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<v Speaker 3>that opposed us, honestly, I really wish they could see

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<v Speaker 3>that gays against groomers is doing. You know, we are

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<v Speaker 3>here to first and foremost protect children, but also to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of save ourselves from this backlash. We don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be associated with these people and gays again, as

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<v Speaker 3>rumors represents the majority of gays and lesbians, and I

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<v Speaker 3>believe even trans people. You know, we don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be associated with this. All we want is to live

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<v Speaker 3>and let live. You know. We don't want to push

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<v Speaker 3>anything on anyone, least of which children.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's it, there're word. We're not going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop because that's what it is. You know, We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to call a spade a spade here.

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<v Speaker 2>It must be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's difficult circumstances here, right, because you have there are

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<v Speaker 1>people who are are gay, lesbian, h and all the

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<v Speaker 1>rest who are seeing what's going on here, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>being told that they, as reasonable, law abiding adults, are

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to have a problem with this stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>being done to kids that you sit there and you

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<v Speaker 1>are in front of kids or in some cases to

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<v Speaker 1>them if we're talking about transition, but even just be

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<v Speaker 1>what they're being exposed to. Is there a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>resentment from I mean from I mean, obviously you started

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<v Speaker 1>this group, but do you come across a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people who are saying, I never sign up for this

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, as a gay person, as a lesbian person.

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<v Speaker 1>At no point was I saying, you know what, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to have guys dressed as women doing strip shows

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<v Speaker 1>for five six seven year olds Like that was never

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<v Speaker 1>part of the deal. That's not part of who I am, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So how does that all factor into this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? We have deep, deep, deep resentment.

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<v Speaker 3>We hate these people for what they've done to us

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<v Speaker 3>and what they're putting us through because no, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>the majority of us, like I was saying, like, we

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<v Speaker 3>really just want to live our lives. We don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to push anything on anyone. You know, very recently, we

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<v Speaker 3>just gained equality, Like we had a just battle, like

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<v Speaker 3>a very worthy fight, and we want it. And as

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<v Speaker 3>far as I'm concerned and all of us and gaze

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<v Speaker 3>against groomers after that, we should have just packed it up.

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<v Speaker 2>And gone home.

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<v Speaker 3>But that doesn't pay the bills, you know, like oppression

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<v Speaker 3>in this country pays. Being a victim is very very.

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<v Speaker 2>Powerful and brings in a lot of donations.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh and and so yeah, it's really unfortunate that now

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<v Speaker 3>we have to basically convince the public a society again

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<v Speaker 3>that you know that that we don't want to hurt children.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want to attack them, we don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>sexualize them. And it's just, uh, you know, a small

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<v Speaker 3>fringe minority within our community that is really gung ho

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<v Speaker 3>on this. But also I want people to realize that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the people pushing this at the very top,

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<v Speaker 3>like the corporations doing this and and the medical industrial

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<v Speaker 3>complex and the people in the White House, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>besides Rachel Levine really his.

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<v Speaker 2>Name is Richard, but that's another topic. But uh, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, they're not gay, they're not LGB or T or

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<v Speaker 3>Q or any of the letters, uh, you know, at all.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just using us and pushing this in our name

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<v Speaker 3>because when they do that, they know that you cannot

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<v Speaker 3>criticize them or the agenda. As you've seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you come out and try and push back against it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're just easily able to write you off as

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<v Speaker 3>bigots or at least they try to silence and intimidate people.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people are.

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<v Speaker 3>Silenced then intimidated by that. They don't want to be

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<v Speaker 3>called those things. And so Gays against Groomors came in

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<v Speaker 3>and kind of provided this ally for straight people and

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<v Speaker 3>parents to say, you know what, look even gay people,

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<v Speaker 3>even trans people, they are against this too. It's not bigoted,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that shouldn't have to be said. It's insane

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<v Speaker 3>that this fight is even happening, that we have to

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<v Speaker 3>be doing this. But you know, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>stop until it's over. But yes, we do have deep,

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<v Speaker 3>deep resentment, and that's why we're doing everything we can

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<v Speaker 3>to separate ourselves from this radical mob.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask when I come back, if some

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<v Speaker 1>the professional lgbtq I A plus activists come after Gaze

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<v Speaker 1>against groomers or are they open to your message?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? No, they are very much not open. No, they

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<v Speaker 2>attack us.

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<v Speaker 3>All of these LGBTQ plus you know, rags, these media sites.

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<v Speaker 3>They have been attacking us since two weeks after we launched.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know how they found out about us

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<v Speaker 3>that early, but we popped up on their radar and

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<v Speaker 3>they have been trying to discredit us and slander us

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<v Speaker 3>ever since. I mean, you see with our Wikipedia, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean they've been labeling us far right hate group, anti

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<v Speaker 3>LGBTQ plus extremists. It's really funny, you know, Media Matters

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<v Speaker 3>they actually have an entire page dedicated on their website

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<v Speaker 3>to Gaze against Groomers and myself. They've written like fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>articles about us, so, you know, and that's okay. I

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<v Speaker 3>knew going into this that it was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a hell of a battle, that we were going to

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<v Speaker 3>get tons of pushback from these groomers, and I would

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<v Speaker 3>think that we weren't being effective enough if I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>Nfgay's against groomers, wasn't being attacked as you know, ferociously

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<v Speaker 3>as we are on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm sure you've also seen recently there was

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<v Speaker 1>that controversy in I think it was the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers who for Pride Month. This is going back to

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<v Speaker 1>Pride Month, which was a little bit before you and

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<v Speaker 1>I are talking here, back in June, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>the inviting of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, who are

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<v Speaker 1>men dressed as nuns who do really provocative stuff. What

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<v Speaker 1>is it going to take for some of these companies

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<v Speaker 1>you think to is the Dylan mulvaney situation going to

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<v Speaker 1>change minds now where they where they don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>they have to live in constant terror of upsetting the

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<v Speaker 1>professional not the everyday people who are LGBTQ, but the

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<v Speaker 1>whole activist apparatus. Like what's it going to take for

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<v Speaker 1>them to stop trying to bend the knee all the

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<v Speaker 1>time and really do things that seem kind offensive and

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<v Speaker 1>crazy in the process.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're getting there. I think the bud light

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<v Speaker 3>scenario is a perfect example. Target was hit really really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>We helped expose that and and publicize what was going

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<v Speaker 3>on there with the Pride the kids section right when

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<v Speaker 3>you walk in the store with all those the clothing

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<v Speaker 3>and just disgusting items that are not for children.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that that's the solution. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the answer. You know, we just we.

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<v Speaker 3>Completely devastate their their wallet. You know, that's the only

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<v Speaker 3>thing these people understand. Uh. And I think that we're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing that Pride has started becoming a little toxic, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in business at least it should be toxic in every

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<v Speaker 3>way it is toxic, but it is kind of showing

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<v Speaker 3>to be that, Like this past June. I know that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, on social media, as soon as June first,

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<v Speaker 3>midnight strikes, all of these companies put up their their

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<v Speaker 3>little rainbow logos and avatars. And I think that we

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<v Speaker 3>saw that, you know, this past June, those only stayed

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<v Speaker 3>up for a few days for the most part, whereas

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<v Speaker 3>in the past, you know, they were up for the

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<v Speaker 3>entire month, if not more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, I'm hopeful about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we just have to continue to hit them

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<v Speaker 3>where it hurts until they understand that, you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>isn't going to stand anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>Just pushing it on children, it's also you know, favorability

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<v Speaker 3>is decreasing for gays and lesbians and trans people in

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<v Speaker 3>this country also just because it's being shoved down everyone's throats.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we represent a very small minority in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>I think gay people make up like under ten percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the population. Trans people are literally point zero three

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the population. And yet you know, you have

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<v Speaker 3>just every business shoving it down and in every show,

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<v Speaker 3>everywhere you look, you cannot escape the rainbow, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>propaganda and people are just sick of it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sick of it. I June is my least favorite month,

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<v Speaker 3>and I cannot wait until it's over every year. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I can only imagine how the rest of the

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<v Speaker 3>country feels that are not gay or you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>the in the community.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think is going on when you see

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you saw this specific story, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've seen similar things. Brown University students, the

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<v Speaker 1>incoming class I think it is for next year at

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<v Speaker 1>Brown University or this yeah, this coming year at Brown University,

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<v Speaker 1>forty percent of them identify as LGBTQIA plus forty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's insane, it's absolutely in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are we supposed to believe it? They're

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<v Speaker 1>all they're all either gay or lesbian or trans or

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<v Speaker 1>are they just a lot of people who are allies

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<v Speaker 1>who want to be part of the movement. So they

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<v Speaker 1>say they're questioning or something like what's going on? There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way they're forty that forty percent of them are

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<v Speaker 1>actually like living their lives as in that way or

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<v Speaker 1>are they?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, No, no, I mean I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>So. It's so funny because the people that are against

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<v Speaker 3>us always like to say that, you know, this isn't

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<v Speaker 3>a social contagion. But these numbers are absolutely insane. This

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<v Speaker 3>is in knowing, a natural occurrence. It's it is a

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<v Speaker 3>social contagion, and it's infecting and and affecting our youth

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<v Speaker 3>more than anyone. You know, a lot of these people

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<v Speaker 3>on the other side say, oh, people, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>just coming out more because society is more tolerant and

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<v Speaker 3>accepting and they're safer to do so. But if that

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<v Speaker 3>were the case, you know, why aren't. It's primarily the

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<v Speaker 3>younger demographic that this is happening to, that that is

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<v Speaker 3>starting to identify within the alphabet community. And if it

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<v Speaker 3>were natural, and if it were the you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>the others are saying, then you would see it across

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<v Speaker 3>the board kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>This radical jump increase. But you're not. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that these people right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's almost seen as toxic, you know, for these

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<v Speaker 3>younger people to just be straight, to just be a

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<v Speaker 3>straight person so boring, you know. So I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them do hop into the community and just

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<v Speaker 3>in any way they can. And now the queue and

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<v Speaker 3>the non binary and all of that, I mean, you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to do much to fit into it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you just kind of just say it, and

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<v Speaker 3>it changes every day, and gender isn't real and it

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<v Speaker 3>can change minute to minute, and so, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of these people are feeling peer pressure

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<v Speaker 3>as well, and that also is part of the contagion.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie, I want to ask you to close this out

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<v Speaker 1>here in a second, because you're also you're a creative right,

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<v Speaker 1>the dwarves are now not dwarves. They're just a very

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie the New snow White as a creative, as an

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<v Speaker 1>artiste in our own right, what do you make of it?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's I mean, you know, I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>participate in the conservative outrage for every movie like this

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<v Speaker 3>Barbie thing is out of control from the right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it, it's okay to touch on, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think it just feeds more into the left. But with this,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was a bad movie to choose to

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<v Speaker 3>go so woke because the name is literally snow white

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<v Speaker 3>because her skin was so white.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's very strange to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's sad that they're taking job opportunities away

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<v Speaker 3>from Dwarves. You know what, The whole rewrite is just

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<v Speaker 3>very silly. If you want to come up with a

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<v Speaker 3>new story, then come up with that. But to try

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<v Speaker 3>and remake a classic in such a ridiculous ways, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's I think Disney's gonna continue learning the hard

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<v Speaker 3>way that that's not really the best business model.

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<v Speaker 1>How far do you think we are from some entity

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<v Speaker 1>coming together that's just doing what Disney used to do,

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<v Speaker 1>which would just make great, timeless, classic entertainment for family

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<v Speaker 1>and children, family and kids, without constantly pushing political agendas

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<v Speaker 1>that are of the moment too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's companies that are trying Daily Wire has

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<v Speaker 3>put out some great stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they have a Kid's a Kid's Department.

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<v Speaker 3>Or coming out soon. I think if that's still on

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<v Speaker 3>the book in the plans. Uh, But that's what we need,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you need competition and let the best movie

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<v Speaker 3>slash Mayon win.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, hopefully, hopefully we see more of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Michelle. Everybody. Where should folks go to learn more

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<v Speaker 1>about Gaze Against Groomers?

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<v Speaker 2>You can go to.

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<v Speaker 3>Gaye against Groomers dot com. We are totally independent grassroots.

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<v Speaker 3>Gays against Groomers and we'll pop right up. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we're still just getting started. We're a little

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<v Speaker 3>over a year old, and the fight we will win

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<v Speaker 3>this fight, I'm confident, but we have quite a ways

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<v Speaker 3>to go. So we need everybody, everybody to be vocal

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<v Speaker 3>and hoppen because an entire generation is on the line here.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie, thanks so much, good to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You too. Thanks