1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Still Hitler. Yeah, man, um that this is part two 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: of our of our episode. Because it's a Hitler episode, 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: you gotta give the give red meat to the base. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: It's like one of the only episodes were likeness flies, 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: So like, yeah, you want to do it one more time, 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: It's fine, I did it with two times. Is enough? 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: My next Hitler episode I get no Welcome back to 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Behind the Insurrections. This is part three. We had an 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: episode started off with an episode on the march on Room. 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Now we're doing a two parter. This is part two 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: of our two parter on Hitler's Munich beer Hall putsch 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: Um and then we will continue with other fascist attempts 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: to seize power and talking about anti fascism and with 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: a few more episodes to do. So, um, strap in, 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: buckle up. Eat some rice rice. Get some rice rice. 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: It's good for you. Get that brown rice. It's got 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: like the extra you know, the vitamins and ship in it. 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, don't skin your potatoes. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: If you're eating potatoes, that's where all the vitamins are. 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: And I can't enjoy potato skins. I love potato skins. 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: You know who didn't love potatoes. Actually, Hitler did love them, 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: he was because yeah, huge, huge fan of vegetables. Anyway, 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: here's the storage. Yeah, as soon as von Lasso and 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: car and Ciser are free, they immediately warned Berlin and 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: call from military reinforcements from the rest of Bavaria and 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: try to organize the rest of the police who weren't 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: on Hitler's side into some sort of counter push. This 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: would tend to them looking at each other right when 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: they stepped out of the room, like, I can't believe 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: that works. We're not coming back, right, Like, no, we're not. 31 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: We're going to kill these people, right, I can't believe 32 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: you believe this, Like, I can't believe. I can't believe 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: that worked. You know, I think I know why we 34 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: lost the war. That guy might not be very smart 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: dumbas yeah. Yeah, So, um, now while this is happening, 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna take time. Right, ship doesn't turn on a dime, 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, his nighttime on the eighth when they get 38 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: free and start warning everybody, it's going to take hours 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: for them to like actually get um a counter putch 40 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: force in place to fight the Nazis, And so for 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: the rest of the night of November eight, the Nazis 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: find themselves in total control of a German city for 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: the first time in history, and they very predictably did 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: Nazi ship. Yeah. Members of Stufstroup Hitler first swarmed the 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: offices of the munschtioner Post, a social democratic paper which 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: they considered a Jewish paper. They threatened the business manager 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: at gunpoint in order to gain entry, and then they 48 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: destroyed everything inside, throwing ink on the walls, cutting phone lines, 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: smashing desks, destroying three and eighty pains of glass. One 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: Nazi later recalled, we forced open the doors of this place, 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: ransacked the building and flung all the printed stuff we 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: could lay hands upon out into the street. Now, during 53 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: the assault, a police officer arrived, not to stop the Nazis, 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: but to make sure they didn't damage the printing presses, 55 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: because Hitler wanted those, because wanted to take them and 56 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: give them to one of his newspapers. Hey, hey, hey, hey, 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: you rough, Hey hey, we're stealing that. Don't break it, 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: Nazis here, just don't break that valuable. Those people, those people, fine, 59 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: just don't hurt the printing presses. Those costs money. Yeah, 60 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: they're all scared, like, oh no, kill that dude. I'm saying, 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: don't break the printer. Yeah no, you're not under arrest, 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: of course, not what. So they looted everything of value, 63 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: including an estimated six trillion German marks, which is, you know, 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: even at that point, a decent amount of money. Um. 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: While they were raiding, they found the home address of 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: the papers editor, who's a Jewish Man. So they broke 67 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: into his home next, and they threatened his wife at gunpoint. 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Now he was already in hiding, but the Nazis did 69 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: not leave right away. And I'm gonna quote again from 70 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: the trial of Adolf Hitler. This guy's name is our ours. 71 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: Elder daughter, Sophie asked the intruders to be as quiet 72 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: as possible because their own two year old daughter was sleeping. Maurice, 73 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: ignoring the request, asked who the father was as he 74 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: rummaged through their closets, Audrey and Betting. He then smashed 75 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: up a cupboard and turned over bookshelves, apparently looking for 76 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: weapons as much as any clue for the whereabouts of 77 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: the editor. We are the masters and we govern now, 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: Maurice boasted, and that guy Maurice would wind up being 79 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: Hitler's valet, like he was his driver and ship in 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: bodyguard for a while. Yeah now. Attacks continued through the night, 81 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: led by different gangs of Nazis. One small group was 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: led by a bank clerk named Ernest Hoobner who got 83 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: drunk at the start of the push and went off 84 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: with friends in search of quote Jews and other enemies 85 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: of the people to attack. They've broke into restaurants in hotels, 86 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: demanding that Jews exit, beating people and kidnapping them. At 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: least twenty four Jewish people were kidnapped and held hostage 88 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: during this period. Numerous others were beaten, businesses were ransacked Nazis. 89 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: In other words, did Nazi ship? Yeah Now. One of 90 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: the things that's fun about this is in the wake 91 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: of all this, stories will come out, like police will 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: claim that police who were members of the Nazi party 93 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: will claim that while this was happening, Hitler condemned the 94 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: violence against Jewish people. Um and the kernel of truth 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: and that is that Hitler condemned the fact that some 96 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: of his Nazis took off their swastika arm bands while 97 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: they were beating New Jewish people. So we didn't condemn 98 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: the violence as much as he was, like, why didn't 99 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: you wear it? That's good? It was a branding opportunity. Guys. Fella, 100 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: come on, we got these armed bands for a reason. 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: We're very good money for this ship. What are you doing. Yeah, 102 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 1: So by the early morning, Hitler and his closest lackeys 103 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: realized what Ludendorff had done and gradually came to understand 104 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: that Berlin had been called and the army was coming 105 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: for them. This brought a wave of hopelessness to some. 106 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: The rash nature of the push, the fact that the 107 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 1: timeline had been moved up two days at the last minute, 108 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: the poor communication, and the fact that a lot of 109 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: time had been spent giving long hit their speeches to 110 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: rooms full of drunk people uh and beating up random 111 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: Jewish people in the street uh instead of securing Munich 112 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: meant that the Nazis were about to face off against 113 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: the Bavarian army without full control of the city. They 114 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: kind of got drunken out of control and failed to 115 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: do the things that were necessary to actually defend their territory. 116 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that through man. Yeah, Nazi ship. 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: So Ludendorf was aghast when he realized that General von 118 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Lasso had not kept his word. He is very brokenhearted 119 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: by this. He can't believe it. He actually like tries 120 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: to call him and be like, come on, you promised, man, Man, Man, 121 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: what about that word you said you're gonna come back? Bro? Yeah, 122 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: come on, you know, I gotta tell you. Man, I'm 123 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm hurt, hurt. I'm personally hurt. Man. You I'm not angry, 124 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed. Yea, bro, Man, we're supposed to ask some 125 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: sort of code. Man, so funny, it's extremely funny. Um 126 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: So Ludendorf, Yeah, is horrified. Hitler's just angry, and he 127 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: insists that the Nazis go on with what most people 128 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: now realize as a hopeless push. Hitler rants that he's 129 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: prepared to fight for the cause and not a coward. 130 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: He also screams that by betraying him, von Lasso and 131 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: the other members of the Triumvirate had forfeited their quote 132 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: right to exist. Oh god, hardcore Nazi guy. I mean, 133 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: he's like just just just be saying, like if it 134 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: wasn't so violently dangerous again, it's like the goofball thing 135 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: where I'm just like, why are you so are you 136 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: such a drama, queen, bro, Like they've reverted the right 137 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: to exist. Like, hey man, you know, Hitler was wearing 138 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: those corny ask cargo short shorts when he said it, too, right, 139 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: just like, hey man, he's just I'm gonna I'm gonna 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: flinging my church code off and I got my tooths 141 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: crosses in there, like bro, why the theatrics? Man? Like bro, 142 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: you was this unnecessary theatrical? Anyway? It's just Nazi ship? 143 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: Like okay, man, just if you're gonna shoot the place up, 144 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: shoot the place up, you ain't gotta do all what 145 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: is all this anyway? He's Nazi ship, you know. So 146 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: at this point in time, Hitler's organized forces in Unick 147 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: number around four thousand, whereas the government in Munch only 148 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: about twenty troops and police combined, and obviously a lot 149 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: of the police are Nazis. Now reinforcements were on their 150 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: way rapidly um and so some of Hitler's men suggested 151 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: retreating outside of the city with the forces they had, 152 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: to a small town where they had a strong base 153 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: of support. Ludendorff argued against that and instead insisted that 154 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: they needed to carry out a public show of strength 155 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: and march through Munich in numbers to rally the people 156 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: of the city to their banner. So like, that's you know, 157 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: kind of Ludendorf city is like, no, we can't retreat. 158 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: If we start marching, the people will join us. We'll 159 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: start the march on Berlin now. And yeah, I'm gonna 160 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: quote from the trial of Adolf Hitler here. Perhaps a 161 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: show of popular support would convince kar Lasso Incisor to 162 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: abandon their intention to oppose them. Surely too, it was 163 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: reasoned the army would not shoot at a procession led 164 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: by such a popular national figure as General Ludendorff. The 165 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: heavens will fall before the troops fire on me, Ludendorff 166 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: had told a colleague the previous day. The soldiers would. 167 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,479 Speaker 1: It was hoped luck to the banner of the swastika. 168 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: With a little luck, nationalist momentum might push Hitler to Berlin, 169 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: just as it had propelled Mussolini to Rome. It didn't. 170 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: It didn't. Hitler gathered about two thousand men at the 171 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: Burger Brow, and he did, in fact, marched them to 172 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: the center of the city, and for a little while 173 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: things went well. Fifteen minutes into the march, the Nazis 174 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: approached a group of thirty police officers with heavy machine guns, 175 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: and the police tell the Nazis to stop, and Herman 176 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Garrying yells back at them, don't shoot your comrades. And 177 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: then right after saying don't shoot your comrades, like a 178 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: trumpet blows, and the Nazis charged the police and take 179 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: their guns and beat them unconscious with their own rifle butts, 180 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: which is again some serious d C on the sixth energy, Yeah, yeah, 181 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: where are your friends? Wham, it's beating a cop with 182 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: a blue lives matter that is that? Is that a 183 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: thin blue line rag around him man's neck to choke him. Yeah? 184 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, the police were taken captive. Um, the 185 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: Nazis beat them and take their guns, um and send 186 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: them back to the beer hall. And Nazi propaganda would 187 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: describe this assault on the police as police fraternization, right, like, 188 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: it's us, it's us being friendly with the cops. Now, 189 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: this early success would not prove to be you know, 190 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: how the rest of things went um. Eventually, the crowd 191 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: reached a barricade of a hundred police officers set up 192 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: in a narrow street where their flanks were protected. The 193 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: Nazis advanced, and while it's not known who started shooting, 194 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: a gun battle ensued. Four police officers and sixteen Nazis 195 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: were killed. Hitler was pulled to the ground by his 196 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: bodyguard and his shoulder was dislocated. Garing was shot in 197 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: the groin in the leg. And this is actually why 198 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: Herman Garring in the pictures you see of him as 199 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: like when he's in power, is like heavily overweight. It's 200 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: why he becomes a morphine addict. Like he's horribly injured 201 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: and he gets addicted to pain killers. Um yeah, and 202 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: then he like starts over eating when he can't be 203 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: on pain killers in order to deal with like he's 204 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: badly hurt by this. Now, there's a couple of different 205 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: stories about what happens with Ludendorff. The most common one 206 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: that like Ludendorff backs is that while all of this 207 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: gunfire is going on, he marches like straight backed, unharmed, 208 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: up to the police line and is taken into custody, 209 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: just completely unfrightened of bullets. Historians tend to suspect that, 210 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: like no, he was a soldier, like Hitler and everyone 211 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: else who was had military experience. He dove for the 212 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: ground when the shooting started. That's like, you don't stand up, 213 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: you go to the fucking ground, like that's what. Yeah, 214 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: And Hitler gets really messed up by this too, Like 215 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: I said, his shoulders like really badly dislocated. He doesn't 216 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: get shot though, um. And as soon as it's clear 217 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: that his men, because the Nazis fire back and they 218 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: kill some cops. As soon as it becomes clear that 219 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: the Nazis are going to lose this giant gunfight, Hitler 220 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: runs like fuck um and Nazi propaganda would later claim 221 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: that he sees like a ten year old boy who 222 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: gets wounded by the police and he like picks him 223 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: up and runs him to safety. This is a for 224 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: one thing, his arm didn't work. Yeah, so that didn't happen, 225 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: Like it's a complete lie. He ran because he didn't 226 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: want to die. He did what every what they literally 227 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: anyone would do. Yeah, is you Oh they're shooting, I 228 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: should not get out of here. Yeah, I really ain't 229 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: sign up, but his I just wanted to know. So 230 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: he flees, and he eventually takes a car to his friends, 231 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: puts his manner in rural Bavaria, and of course, as 232 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: we talk about it in another episode. He tries to 233 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: shoot himself there and puts his wife Helena, who he 234 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: has a crush on, like stops him, takes his gun 235 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: and like throws it into a barrel of flower um, 236 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: which is, you know, maybe not the best call anyone ever, 237 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: but it was one of those like like short term 238 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: goodness term like in the moment, that was probably the 239 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: right thing to do. Yeah, but it didn't end up well. 240 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, Hitler eventually gets arrested and he's charged with, 241 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, trying to overthrow the government. Now, the maximum 242 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: him sentence for a guilty verdict would have been life imprisonment, 243 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: and even if he wasn't put away for life, Hitler 244 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: wasn't a German citizen, and the law code at the 245 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: time stipulated that foreigners convicted of high treason should be 246 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: deported after serving their sentence. Now, when he was brought 247 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: to jail, Hitler was initially despondent, telling one police interviewer 248 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: that he wanted to just shoot himself and get it 249 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: over with. But as the days and weeks went by, 250 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: it became clear that most of the Bavarian government and 251 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: many of its people were at best ambivalent about prosecuting Hitler. 252 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: He was extremely popular. Nazi protesters took to the streets 253 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: immediately after he was arrested, like shouting, Heil Hitler and 254 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: down Lukar. Even a lot of the cops and soldiers 255 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: who had put down the rebellion were broadly pro Hitler. 256 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: They didn't want to see him punished. Now, this was 257 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: kind of filed, compounded by the fact that the press, 258 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: even the left wing press, didn't take Hitler seriously because 259 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: the putch had failed. The New York World ignored Hitler's 260 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: role in it for the most part, and declared at 261 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: Ludendorff's push and depicted Hitler as a bumbling sidekick had 262 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: gone off half coom and dragged the general down with him. 263 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: A major Berlin paper described it as a Ludendorff putsch 264 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: and compared it to a childish prank rather than a 265 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: severe attempt to destroy democracy. The New York Times probably 266 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: had the best coverage. They made a pointed note that 267 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: hit there was a skilled order in very charismatic. They 268 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: laid out his skill at weaving the nation's resentments and 269 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: racial bigotry into a cohesive political platform capable of getting 270 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: people out into the street, you know. The New York 271 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: Times falls down on the job a lot later with Hitler. Um, 272 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: but at this point, like they see at least that 273 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: writer sees the danger, you know. Now. Meanwhile in France, 274 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: a left wing paper, the Republic French well, uh yeah, 275 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: the French Republic, I guess is the name of the paper, bridge, Yeah, 276 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: And it's like this is a very like a socialist paper. 277 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: It warns its readers that the real victim of the 278 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: Putsch was not the Nazis, but the Bavarian government, who 279 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: had brutally suppressed a popular uprising. The trial of Adolf 280 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: Hitler notes it was instead a war between two different 281 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: visions of dictate leadership, and the most dangerous one, it believed, 282 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: was not the one suppressed. Several papers on the left 283 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: agreed with this assessment. Hitler, in his defeat, looked ludicrous 284 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: and less menacing than the state authorities who had stopped him. 285 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: The illusion would only grow in the coming months. So like, no, no, 286 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: the state's way worse than Hitler. You know, he's just 287 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: a silly dude. Yeah, yeah, Again, the lesson of history 288 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: is that no one has ever learned a lesson from history, ever, 289 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: not a single person, God damn. And the idea. The 290 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: part that's so chilling is like, you know, him sitting 291 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: in prison almost the idea of him almost checking out 292 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: and being like, maybe let's not do this, and in 293 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: the streets rise up for him and he's like wait 294 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: what wait, y'all like me, all right, let's let's let's 295 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: let's push on, you know like that. That's that part 296 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: is so chilling, where it was just like he almost stopped. Yeah, 297 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: he could have been stopped. And this is the story 298 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: at this point is why he wasn't, you know, um 299 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: like like why he didn't Why this wasn't the end 300 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: of his political career. Because the big question of the 301 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Munich beer hole punch isn't why didn't it work? Because 302 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: it was a terrible idea from the start, it was 303 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: doomed from it was badly planned in order. Yeah, it 304 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: is instead why didn't this push in the Hitler's career, 305 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: And the answer to that question comes once again down 306 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: to the justice system law enforcement. The police in Munich 307 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: in particular were critical in allowing the Nazis to rise 308 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: to power in the first place, and in nine, the 309 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: year of Hitler's trial, the Justice Department would prove critical 310 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: in keeping his ambitions alive or the justice system gemany whatever. 311 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: So Hitler goes to court and as a note, they 312 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: take him to court and like a military academy, um, 313 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: and the academy is empty because all of the young 314 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: soldiers being trained in the military academy were part of 315 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: Hitler's push. Um. So like the yeah, yeah, yeah, is 316 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: this the trial so I read death of Democracy? Yes? 317 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: So is this the trial where the judge was essentially like, 318 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: I'll give you it. I like the guy, Uh, this 319 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: is one of those democracy I think is talking about 320 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: the trial with um um a different like there were 321 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: a couple of trials like that. It happened more than once. 322 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: This is the first time. Well, actually it's not the 323 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: first time. It's not the first time with this judge, 324 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: as we're about to talk about. So, the presiding judge 325 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: in Hitler's case was a guy named George Nightheart. Now 326 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Nightheart had a reputation for opposing democracy in liberalism and 327 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: just loving himself the far right. He was a monarchist 328 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: in his bones, and he took his rage at fimart 329 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: democracy out on left wing like uh, what McCall it? 330 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: People like on the left, he wound up in his docket. Now, 331 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: this was not an eye slated phenomenon. In Germany, most 332 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: judges were very much far right. Statician Emile Gumbel analyzed 333 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: murder trials in Fimar, Germany from nineteen eighteen to nineteen 334 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: twenty two. Uh He found quote right wing defendants received 335 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: a not guilty verdict no fewer than three d three 336 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: fifty four cases. There were no death penalties and only 337 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: one life sentence. Left wing defendants, by contrast, were judged 338 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: in a sent only four of the twenty two cases, 339 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: receiving ten death penalties and three life sentences. The length 340 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: of the sentence also confirmed the double standard, fifteen years 341 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: on average for the left, four months for the right. Good. 342 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: We're back now to bring this back to modern history. 343 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: The UK Guardian just conducted a study on last year's 344 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: protests involving thirteen thousand left and right wing demonstrations and 345 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: found that police were like four times as likely to 346 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: use force on left wing demonstrators and three and a 347 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: half times as likely to use force on left demonstrators 348 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: during protests where there was no destruction of property or looting. 349 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: So this is not a the left like loots more. 350 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: This is a win in right wing protests where there's 351 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: no violence, and left wing protests where there's no violence, 352 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: the police are three times and a half times more 353 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: likely to use violence against the left. Um, it's the same. 354 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: It's all the same, broadly speaking, like we do, like 355 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: our judges and d a s and stuff are kind 356 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: well in some areas are less like the Nazis where 357 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: right for one thing, they didn't transition from being under 358 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: ricking to a democracy and weren't all angry about that, 359 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: which is not. Like the whole justice department is stacked 360 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: towards the right. But it's not as bad as it 361 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: was for Weimar. But it's pretty bad now. Ninheart had 362 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: actually ruled on a case involving Hitler once before, in 363 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: January of nineteen two, when Hitler had attacked a rifle 364 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: politician giving a speech at another beer hall. Hitler had 365 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: faced three to six months in prison then, and Ninheart 366 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: had ordered him to serve just a month, although he 367 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: had also put him on probation. And Hitler was on 368 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: probation when he tried to overthrow the government in nine 369 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: He was on probation. Wow, they they are already on probation. 370 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: Dag dad, you like, oh, I know to judge with 371 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: good The judge who knew that Hitler was on probation, 372 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: didn't bring this it up at all during the trial, 373 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: didn't form the jury, made sure no one knew that 374 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: Hitler was on probation when he tried to overthrow the government. 375 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: Oh good, that's extremely funny. It's it's rad as hell. 376 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: Don't don't yeah, no, no notes. So yeah. The website 377 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Famous Trials because good overview of how the case opened, 378 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: and it makes it clear just how stacked the deck 379 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: was in Hitler's favor. The presiding judge called Hitler to 380 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: the stand, consistent with German procedure at the time, the 381 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: questions came from the judge, not the prosecutor, although they 382 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: were written largely by the prosecution. In the afternoon session, 383 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: Hitler gave a nearly four hour opening statement that dazzled spectators. 384 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: He began by telling his life story, then shifted to 385 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: his political vision. He was animated, his voice rising and 386 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: falling as he laid out his vision of the country's 387 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: problems and hopes for the future. He was unsparing in 388 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: his criticism of racial minorities and left wing ideologies, calling 389 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: communists not even human. He blamed the government in Berlin 390 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: for the economic crisis, saying it had practically robbed the 391 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: people of the last marks from their pockets. He said 392 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: policy is made not with the palm branch, but the sword. 393 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: Hitler's words were reported around the world. Hit their claim 394 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: to want only the best for his people and said 395 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: he alone bore the responsibility and also every consequence for 396 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: the failed push. He compared the Bavarian leaders who turned 397 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: on him to a horse that lost its courage before 398 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the hurdle. So four hours it is ship. Yeah. And 399 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: one of the main impacts of this is that he 400 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: gets to speak for hours and lay out his entire 401 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: political philosophy at a trial that is internationally reported on. 402 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: So suddenly this guy who was unknown outside of Bavaria 403 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: becomes known worldwide because the judge lets him just say 404 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: whatever he wants, just that want. Can you imagine being 405 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: a prosecution in the situation and being like, is he done? 406 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: As it's four hours? Dog, Like, you're not even talking 407 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: about the case? Yeah, yeah, are you serious? Yeah? So, 408 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: when sensitive matters were addressed, matters whose disclosure might be 409 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: especially embarrassing to the government or suggest a violation of 410 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: the Verse Sill Treaty, like all of the machine guns 411 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: being given to militias. The court went into secret session, 412 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: So for example, Hitler's testimony that his party stormtroopers were 413 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: trained with a knowledge and support of Bavarian authorities, a 414 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: clear violation of the treaty was never heard or reported 415 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: by the international press. So the fact that, like before 416 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: Hitler tried to overthrow the government, the army had trained 417 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: and given guns to his militia's they just hid that 418 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: talk about that because it's a violation of international law. 419 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: You know, we just would broke. We broke. Everyone's loss. 420 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: Everyone's lost. So a bunch of fucked up stuff came 421 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: out in the trial, including the fact that the Bavarian 422 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: Police commissioner had been promised by Hitler one week before 423 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: the push that he would not do a putch like 424 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: Seisser went to Hitler was like, are you planning to 425 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: overthrow the government? And there was like, no, of course not. 426 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: Why is everybody just twisting each other Hitler overthrow a government? No, Hey, 427 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: we're good, bro, you're good. Don't even you're good, We're good. 428 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: Can I have some more machine guns? Like thirty more 429 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: maybe tops right, machine guns for duck hunting. You know, 430 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what pass medium guns. Promise you everything 431 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: is cool. These are not overthrowing the government guns there um, 432 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, just walking around guns just 433 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: for for the for for style collector. I'm a collector 434 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: machine guns. Dog. So Doug, why is everybody but why 435 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: are body of power just believe the other dudes? Like 436 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: it's amazing you go come back right, yeah, okay, you're 437 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: not to do this right, government, are you? We're good man? 438 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: They needed women in power because we would have been 439 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: like trust issues. No, absolutely not no, no, no. Then 440 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: there has been there's been multiple times that my wife 441 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: has been absolutely correct about stuff that I was completely like, 442 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: it's cool. She was like, uh no, it's not. And 443 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: I'm smart enough after this many years to listen to her. 444 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: Now no one listened to anyone smart. When they put 445 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: Hitler on trial, there was a good member of the 446 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: prosecution here. I wanted to put him away, but other 447 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: members of the prosecution were actually sympathetic to Hitler. One 448 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: of the prosecutors described Hitler's desire to institute a military 449 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: dictatorship as a high perhaps morally legitimate goal, although he 450 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: added that this did not justify his use of criminal means. Hey, man, 451 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: you were right to overthrow the government to institute a dictatorship, 452 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: But did you have to use violence? Not like this? 453 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: Peaceful protest, Hitler? Come on, come on, man, not like this? Uh. 454 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: The prosecution, some of the prosecution at least, praised Hitler's 455 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: honest efforts to inspire belief in the German cause and 456 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: said as human beings, we cannot withhold our respect from Hitler. 457 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: What the I am growing trying to grow in him 458 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: with the year. But I'm just like, Okay, I know hindsight, 459 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: but fam you for real? You know who's not getting 460 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: enough respect? This Hitler? Fella, this guy no respect reading. 461 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: I've been reading this guy. I heard him talk for 462 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: twenty two days, because he shut up the whole twenty 463 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: two days. And I think something in there. I think 464 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: this guy might be a pretty good Hitler, might be 465 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: our best Hitler. You know, let's give me a shot. Wow. 466 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: On March seven, Hitler gave his final statement, as defendants 467 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: were allowed to do under German law. Hitler told the 468 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: court that his goal was never to become a minister. Instead, 469 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to be the destroyer of Marxism. He said 470 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: he was born for politics, and just as a bird 471 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: must sing, because he is a bird, he had to 472 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: engage in a political life. He felt he had the 473 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: duty to step forward and save Germany. The Putsch was 474 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: not a failure, Hitler said. On the contrary, it raised 475 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: people to the highest pitch of enthusiasm. He predicted the 476 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: hour will come when the masses who stand in the 477 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: streets under our swastika flag will unite with those who 478 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: fired on us. At us on November eight, he said, 479 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: the army we have formed is growing from day to day. 480 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: Hitler's words moved a number of people in the courtroom 481 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: to tears. Hitler argued that the government was prosecuting the 482 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: wrong people, for it is not you, gentlemen, who pronounced 483 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: judgment upon us. Instead, the judgment of the eternal court 484 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: of history will pronounce against this prosecution which has been 485 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: raised against us. That's a quote from famous trials. Yeah, 486 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty great ship. They just let him say that 487 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: kind of rat And to be honest, he was and 488 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: he was dead ass serious that, like, yo, I'm not done, y'all. 489 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: It's only the beginning. Oh, no, I'm gonna keep Hitler ng. 490 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: That's what Hitler's do. Yeah, baby, yeah, the big, big, 491 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: big hit lries. You know what I'm saying. Is that 492 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: a new T shirt too? Yeah? Can we get it? 493 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: Always be Probably not? Huh, probably not. Okay, Yeah, let's 494 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: not do that. You don't probably not invoke. I don't 495 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: know if you can invoke the old Hits putting on 496 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: the Hits. That's the shirt putting the Hits to go 497 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: where you can go, and sits putting on the Hitlers. 498 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: So Hitler and his co defendants were found guilty. Most 499 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: of them were sentenced to five years in prison, which 500 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: was the absolute minimum sentence, and they would all be 501 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: eligible for parole in six months. Ludendorff was acquitted on 502 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: all charges. Judge Nighthart justified the lenient sentences by citing 503 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: Hitler's purely patriotic, noble and unselfish motive of wanting to 504 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: be the supreme ruler of all Germany. This guy's not 505 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: self just wants to beator a nest. Yeah, it's amazing, Okay, 506 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: I know I did this, and I know a lot 507 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 1: of people die, but I'm also trying to take over 508 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: the country. In my defense, I wanted to be the dictator. 509 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's in my defense and I'm trying to 510 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: save you from an imaginary enemy. Yeah, you might not 511 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: have if I'm not your dictator. You know, you know 512 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: when I get a dictator, if I wasn't your dictator. 513 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: So some observers at the time recognized how preposterous and 514 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: terrifying all of this was. The continue. Yeah, one German 515 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: journalist called it a political carnival and pointed out that 516 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: the judge allowing Hitler to make repeated flowery speeches just 517 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: turned the trial into an ad for the Nazi Party, 518 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: and it seems to have worked. That spring, despite the 519 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: party being officially banned, three of Hitler's ten co defendants 520 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: were elected to the Reich Stack. So when I think about, like, yeah, 521 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: when I think about the fact that, like, okay, so 522 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: we're going through another impeachment trial, is people still on 523 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: don Joan side? Like when I I just imagine myself 524 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: being a senator and just when it's my time to talk, 525 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: just being like, did we all not almost die Tuesday? 526 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: What is the fucking hold up? We just did? Were 527 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: y'all here? We was all here? Right? Did I didn't 528 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: imagine this, did we almost die on Tuesday? What what 529 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: are y'all talking about? Like, I just imagine that, So 530 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: I imagine somebody in in you know, the vibe my 531 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: republic at the time, going did y'all just here? Did 532 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: my only one had just heard this? But did y'all 533 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: do y'all heard that this is a bad idea? How 534 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: come nobody else here that this is a bad idea? Yeah, 535 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of the repeated story of fascism and a 536 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: lot of countries. So because humans never learned anything? Is 537 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: that the name of your next podcast after this? Humans 538 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: never learned anything? No one learns anything. So white listen 539 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: to this show? Just downloaded, so I get the ad 540 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: dollars and just stumble forward. So was sent to Lenzburg Prison. 541 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: Um and Lenzburg Prison had two parts. There was a 542 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: normal prison which was like a panopticon one of those 543 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: big prisons were like the guards in the middle can 544 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: see everything everyone does. And then there's a big castle 545 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: that's like a luxury hotel and Hitler gets sent to 546 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: the luxury hotel. Part of it's like it's The Germans 547 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: had a whole chunk of their justice system that was 548 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: luxury prisons. For mainly right wing terrorists. He went, Yeah, 549 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: count Arco Valley, the guy who shot Eisner, went to 550 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: this prison and got like like like and gets like, 551 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, he lives in like a nice like a 552 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: like a condo basically. And that's when Hitler gets I 553 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: might go rob somebody. So I go back. Oh no, 554 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: you gotta try to overthrow the government. Yeah, so he 555 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: gets a Hitler gets a private apartment at this castle. 556 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: He's given tea coffee, nice food, a leader, a day 557 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: of beer, and all the books he won to read. 558 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: His time was on his own. He was allowed to 559 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: spend five hours a day walking through the garden and 560 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: stuff deep and thought. All of his friends were in 561 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: jail with him, and they got to like party and 562 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: play music. It was less prison and more being locked 563 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: in a nice castle with your friends for lesson retreat. 564 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: A lot of people would pay for this, you know, 565 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: sounds like sounds like a frat house. I was going 566 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: to say, like a TikTok influencer house. Yeah, it's as 567 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: hype house, which is probably where our next fascist dictator 568 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: will come from. Out of both of you for knowing 569 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: those referens. Yeah, Taylor Lawrence's work yeah, ah, We're back. 570 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: The worst thing about Hitler's sentence was that all of 571 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: the comfortable free time that he got in Landsburg gave 572 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: him space to work on his ideology. Here we Go 573 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: nineteen four would, as a result, go on to be 574 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: one of the most important years in Hitler's life. I'm 575 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna quote now from a write up by Douglas Linder. 576 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: By July, Hitler was hard at work on a work 577 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: that would be both autobiography and political manifesto. The completed 578 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: work would be called Mine comp It would be seven 579 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two pages long, and it would sell 580 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: twelve million copies by ninety five. In the book, Hitler 581 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: developed the two great themes that would mark his later career. First, 582 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: he defined world history as a struggle between races, and 583 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: saw Arians as the culture creating race and Jews as 584 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: the culture destroying race. Second, he lays out a case 585 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: for the imperative of German territorial expansion to the east. 586 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: He called it living space for Germans, or Levin's Realm. 587 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: On December nineteenth, the Bavarian Supreme Court ruled in favor 588 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: of Hitler's parole had there was released. The next day, 589 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: he said when I left Landsburg, everybody wept, by which 590 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: he means the guards but not I. Hitler said his 591 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: time in prison gave him that fearless faith, that optimism, 592 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: that confidence in our destiny which nothing could shake. Thereafter, 593 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: he said that the prison had given him a frenzy 594 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: of liberty and that it's out in my imprisonment, mine 595 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: comp would never have been written. Good ship, damn it, 596 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: good ship. I felt like, as soon as you name 597 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: the prison, if this was a movie, that'sked when like 598 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: the single key of the haunting song starts that you 599 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: think it's over, and then the music builds, and then 600 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: it's having him walking around the thing with his hands 601 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: behind his back, just kind of chilling, and then it 602 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: zooms in on him writing. You know the top of that, 603 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: it says mind colf and we're just like, yeah, Dune 604 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: done done to be continued, Yeah, yep, it's good stuff. 605 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, prop oh god, that means you're stopping right there. Yeah, 606 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: that's the that's I mean, that's the push, you know, 607 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: that's the story of the push and what happened after. 608 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk more about anti fascism in Germany in 609 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: a later episode of this mini series and stuff, because 610 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: we didn't really that a lot of that hadn't started yet, 611 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: you know. Um but after Yeah, I got my names 612 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: wrong because I thought this was the one when they 613 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: set when he set the set to building off fire. No, no, 614 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: that's the Reichstag fire. He's already in power when that 615 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: happened at that point, right yeah, yeah, um no, this 616 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: is this is his first attempt to take power, and 617 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: the fact that he receives no meaningful punishment from it 618 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: is why he winds up in power. Yeah. Yeah, which 619 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: is like it's Rad's super he should probably punish somebody. 620 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: You can't let this year ride oka. Yeah. Maybe if 621 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: a fascist tries to overthrow your government, they should face 622 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: severe consequences. You can't let it ride. Yeah, you can't 623 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: let it ride unity. You're not a big fan of 624 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: a justice system or you want mity because it will 625 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: come back on you eventually. Yeah, of course maybe possibly 626 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: propop dot com. Those are my plugs, okay, Yeah, and 627 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: my plug is nothing. I have no plugs. I refuse 628 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: to plug. I will fight to the death anyone who 629 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: tries to make me plug. So if he puts the plug, 630 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: the plugs have I have I missed a plug? No, 631 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: it's your funeral. Alright, bro. The thing is like, you 632 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: have so many things to plug. I get it. It's exhausting. Um, 633 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: I plugs free, rob alright, alright, alright, plug me, plug me, 634 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: I write okay. On Twitter, he has he has a 635 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: book called The Brief History of Vice. He has a 636 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: podcast called it Could Happen Here You're ever with Katie Stolen, 637 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: Cody Johnston Uprising, which she did, which which is with 638 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: local journalists and activists from Portland's on the Portland Uprising. Oh, 639 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm so tired behind the police with this man prop 640 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: as wells Ye, goddamnit, Robert, why did we do so 641 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: many shows? You got the one about the women, the 642 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: women the Women's War, which is when he went to Syria. 643 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm so tired. You're a machine for at t public, 644 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: for our merg You could get the logo shirt for 645 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: this podcast behind the Insturructions there and you can follow 646 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: up Twitter on Instagram at Bastards pod. Hey as a funny. 647 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: You nailed it. You nailed it. Um, I also have money. 648 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: Think yeah, I heard the first episode today? Oh you did? 649 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: I listened to it. That was dope. Yeah, it's you 650 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: can find it in the Behind the Bastards feed. Yeah, 651 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: we'll be coming out with the rest of it as 652 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: a separate thing, and it'll also be available in the 653 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: pub form, so you can read it if you want 654 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: to read it. Somebody did say all my comments, which 655 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: was that was so hilarious. Well, I don't want to 656 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: drag the guy, because I appreciate they follow me, but that, 657 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: um about the about the artwork for this, for this 658 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: pot that like, because I'm pretty sure there wasn't a 659 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: fire there, so you guys putting a fire on there 660 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: is pretty uh deceptive. Guys. It's it's number one. They 661 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: turned around the the logo in like two days and 662 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: this was the best thing we could think. I think 663 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: it's fine. Yeah, that I had that if somebody wants 664 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: to create for me, like I love you, it was 665 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: a fun idea. Yeah. My favorite idea ever is I 666 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: wanted to take like like in regards like the show Friends, 667 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: when they're on that couch and on a fountain, but 668 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: the fountain at the US Capitol and then it's like 669 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: Franco Mussolini, Trump and Hitler sitting on the couch. I 670 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: think that would have been fun. If somebody could do 671 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: that for me, like you'll make you'll make my like month. Yeah. 672 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: And also it's just look, guys, it's just it's just artwork. 673 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: M It's just it's it's just the artwork. What are 674 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: you gonna What are you gonna do? What are you 675 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: gonna do? Yeah, it's fine. We wanted to get across 676 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: that this is history behind the insurrection that happened at 677 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: the capitol, and we have like an inch wide to 678 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: do it. And it's fine. Deal with what do you fine? 679 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 1: What do you want? What do you want is free? 680 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: It's free. None of you were paying for this on 681 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: unless you're buying our wonderful products and services, in which case, 682 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: thank you very much, thank you, very thank you very much. 683 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: We love um, we love products, services, all that stuff. Um. Alright, 684 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: episodes over, have a nice day.