WEBVTT - Raekwon Interview 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:08.239 Real people, real celebrity join the Breakfast Morning. Everybody is 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:10.959 DJ en vi Agela, Ye, Charlomagne, the guy. We are 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.480 the Breakfast Club special guests in the building right the 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:19.720 God what peace? Lord? How y'all? How y'all. First of all, congratulations. 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.000 This year is a twenty year anniversary of only Built 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.000 for Cuban Links, which is a huge deal. So as 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.160 we get in the concert, a purple tape concert. Oh 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:28.600 you already know, you know, we got a whole whole 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.200 forty five day to layout getting way come up in July, 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.360 so we're gonna pay homage and do that album. Are 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:40.400 being hand about the documentary? Yeah, documentary is officials coming out. 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.720 Though you have original for this from back when you 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.200 were actually doing that album. Yeah, we got some stuff though, 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.200 but the way we're doing this one is like it's 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.240 it's different and it's more like us building to y'all. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.440 It ain't like accolades and all of that. It's more 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.320 like y'all talking to us now the beginning. When you 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.280 crafted that album twenty years ago, did you think it 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:04.800 would not only staying the test of time that it had, 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.760 but it was it was a hip hop classic. When 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.039 you was doing it. I felt like that I was 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.240 in my prime. Um you know, when you're making your 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.240 first album, you know that shit that should number one 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.399 right there. So I was just giving y'all a reflection 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.880 of what I was seeing coming up, and um, I 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:22.880 felt good about it. After I made it, I was, 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.520 you know, I was. I didn't even want videos. I 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.640 wanted a whole flick, you know, when they was like 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.200 they was thinking a brother was going too far dreaming, 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.600 you know, But I was just feeling like that because 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.319 it was different. You know, I made it different. I 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.040 wanted it to be different because I felt like, you know, 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.240 everybody had their own style out there, and I just 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.240 wanted to come with something new. There is a dude 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.520 Beach specifically for that album, or didn't he just have 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.560 stuff like that in the stash already? Um nah, he 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:53.760 you know, he definitely, you know, it was doing a 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.520 lot of things to it, you know, changing up Beach. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.560 One thing about Raw when he was making Beach, it 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.520 was like you might have run to this and it 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.320 came out to be something like that. So you know, 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.360 some of the beasts, like Glaciers of Ice, they was different. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.519 It was different. Now let's talk about the new album 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.040 Flight International Luxurious all right, in particular the sound that 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.320 you did with Asap Rocky I Got Money. You really 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.720 brought him into your chamber. It's not like you tried 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.800 to be, you know, do something that's not you. It 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.840 really was like an updated flavor for Ray Kuan from 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.840 back in the day. But it's modern. But it's not like, oh, 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.600 this isn't no. It sounds like you really put a 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.160 step Rocky on something that sounds like a ray Kuon beat. Yeah. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.360 I mean, you know, you know, I'll just get up 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.000 in there and just do what I feeling. I felt 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.680 like that b cater to the young audience. Um, you know, 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.600 I just felt like he could rock it. You know. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.239 Of course we had a relationship already in the past 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.840 on working on stuff, and I just felt like, you know, 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.760 let me connect with the young you know, and somebody 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.120 from my town. You know. I like what he's doing. 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:01.040 He a thoroughbreak good person, you know, like yo, I 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.880 think he can rocket now. He stayed in the You 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.680 stayed independent on this one. Now, you were probably one 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:10.040 of the first artists that went independent and that was 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.440 successful going independent when you dropped album, So you're not 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.640 you're not going back to me. It's not gonna happen. Huh. 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.960 Right now, you know the control fact, I can't even 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.600 I can't even let nobody be my boss right now. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.519 You gotta you gotta be cutting a big, big, big, 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.600 horrific check, a scary one where I gotta make that decision. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.519 One of the first, one of the first one to 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.520 be successful as a rapper to do it because he 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.760 was because you know, most of these rappers, the South 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:49.400 Houston me, I mean from Midside to really do independent 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.840 on his own and be very successful doing it. But 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.840 you had a lot of guest appearances on this album 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.600 as well. So how does that work? Do they just 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.280 say favorite for favor or you know, I know you 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.120 got the budget that you opened them up. It's it's 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.080 probably different when you got to spend your own money now, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.640 I mean, you know, definitely relationships is important on you 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.240 know a lot of dudes, they wouldn't even take my money, 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.720 right you know, you know a lot of dudes they 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.920 called me. You know, I don't ask for money. You know, 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.200 if your label called me, then yeah, I want some money. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.280 That's the pleasure of being independent of your label calling me. 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.760 What you call me and me and you you know, 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.800 we were cool like that. I might ask for a dollar, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.119 you know, she'll give me a dollar. Do you feel 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:30.800 the need that you said, you said you have to 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.520 be that cater to the young folks. Do you feel 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.960 the cat to the young crowd? You have to, you 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.280 know when you when you're doing business, and you know 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.320 that you know, because we we we we nineties dudes. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.400 So you know a lot of these dudes they just 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.479 heard of us. You know, they heard from Nate brothers 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.640 or mothers or fathers or whatever. But yeah, you have 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.080 to transition yourself a little bit to really adapt to 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.480 what's going on, you know, in order to stay relevant. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.440 Rather is it hard. Do you have to dumb down 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.479 a little bit or not? I ain't dumbing and I'm 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.960 just being me man, just giving them what they know. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.360 You know, a lot of times dudes are want to 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.159 do something with us based on the fact of the 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.240 reputation that we were carrying a business. So if you're 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.520 winning across an artist that you know it's very successful 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.039 and you want to come up and you know he's 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.440 still out there. You know, dudes want to work with you. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.680 They you know, they feel like it's an honor to 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.479 do that. Who are some other people that you like? 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.920 Now that's young? I know you guys like Drake because 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.240 obviously Drake paid homage to Booting as well. But who 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.600 are some other terrible record though by the way, he 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.720 sloated yours down way too much. Can't turn it Twitter 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:41.919 love song like love songs though, sole music, all of that. 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:49.599 Oh yeah, you know I'm heavy on that, you know, Yeah, yeah, 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.600 I definitely said I definitely want to heard the beat. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.120 I was like, yo, it could be a little iller though, 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.240 you know, I felt like that. But who else do 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.160 you like? Now? Like what new artists were you like? 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:03.280 Okay about to that? Like Chinks? You know, I think 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.520 Chinks is a dope young g coming up doing this thing. 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:11.440 Um a couple of cats, you know, few cats from 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:17.040 all over Dave East Okay, yeah, I think he liked 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.200 one of the new top dudes coming out. You still 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:25.560 a Toronto from from Um, I still got something. I 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.880 had to let a couple go though, you know, you 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.720 know they was lacking in certain departments and I ain't 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.720 in the force and nobody to you know, to win 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.920 if you don't lazy, you know how that be you know, 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.920 just just you, you know, you want to you try 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.000 to coach dudes and tell them they gotta work real 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.520 hard because you know, hit records don't just come overnight, 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.120 you know. And my thing is, if you don't get 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.560 it and you're not really ready to think like that 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.240 or network, when I'm when I'm setting you up with 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.240 these plays for you to get on it, and you're not, 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.039 You're showing me right there you don't want it. You 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:00.680 think it was harder when you were coming up because 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.800 it required a lot more legwork to blow up a 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.080 lot more talent, Yeah, a lot more talent at more 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.480 leg work, and it feels like it's a lot more oversaturated. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.080 And I also feel like sometimes people think things come 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.720 a lot quicker and easier because they just go online 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:15.640 put out stuff. They just all they gotta do is 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.080 flood the internet, go on Twitter, you know, go on 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:19.720 Instagram and all of that. You think it was a 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.720 lot harder. Um, I think it was harder for us, 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.600 right for you. It's easier right now for everybody. It's 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.960 just all about you know, having content and just trying 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.880 to be a net you know network, you know, everything 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.360 is about networking. You know, a lot of times all 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.400 this come in and they think, oh, I just gotta 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.440 rhyme and that's it. You know that ain't know all 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.679 you gotta do. You know, you gotta build relationships. You gotta, 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.920 you know, show me that. You know. It's like, I 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.360 guess I feel like that now because now I understand 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.720 how the labels was looking at us back then, like 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.679 you know, and we just was doing whatever we wanted 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.600 to do. But it's important though, when you when you 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.760 want to win. I think from the from the whole, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:01.840 from the whole woll clan. I think you're probably the 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.920 one that got it early because you You're probably the 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.840 one that's recognizable, that goes out every night that I 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.880 see all the time, that mingles the other other dude 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.920 don't really like now and let's be clear, definitely been 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.600 getting his body. Ray is out. Ray is out in 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.360 the young clubs. He's out in the old Ray is 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:26.480 out all the time, young chicks. That's why that Ray 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:32.760 propable on you rag moving appreciate this lifestyle. You know, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.200 we said him talking about you on divorce court, you know, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:44.719 breaking up Happy Home, the old clan, the whole, everybody. Now, 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:46.880 to be clear, I did say this when I saw 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:48.960 that divorce court and she said she stayed out all 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.280 night with the wool taint. Nothing happened. I said, that's possible, 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.840 I said, because they couldn't. I could have been playing chess, 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.360 you know, Ray Kuan could have been cooking up some steaks. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.600 I mean, let me tell you something, man. Every time, 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.160 you know, you know, it's so crazy because you know, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.800 we got all kind of fans and that, you know, 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.240 it ain't it ain't always that, you know what I mean, 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.880 Like we sit up and just have great conversation just 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.720 because they're cool like that. You know. It's been times 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.680 where you know, dudes came with their girls and you know, 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.840 we're like, yo, you want to hear you know, and 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.520 you just sometimes just chill with them, you know, just 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.120 to see the reaction on their face, you know, and 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.240 let them know, like, yo, we're real people. You know. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.920 I like to see fans like you know, just be like, oh, 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.160 I'm in I'm in the chef right now, what's going on? 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.040 And yeah, I'll get you like ten fifteen minutes, you know, 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:43.240 and we have her ghost face saying you god damn rights, 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:50.480 but you were till seven am. We have you got 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.559 called like that before as a girl's man called y'all 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.240 before we got the ya before. Oh it was happening 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.680 for I remember it was stories. I remember y'all. This kid. 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.520 It was this little young white kid. You know. They 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.880 had this girl on the bus rock boy, and you know, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.839 it was so funny because it was like she was 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.680 in the back nervous, like he's like he's head, Like, oh, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.600 he's head. So you know, we like, all right, he's here, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:20.199 so yo, while homeboy came on the bus looking for 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.880 his girl. He didn't even get an invite. He just 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:28.319 walked on. So you know, respected him after that. I 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.959 you usually do to be like what, but automatically, you know, 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.160 we just sat back and see how he was moving. 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.280 And he came on a bus and you know he 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.360 was like you know your hold you know the meaning yo. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.880 He was really you know, he was really like telling 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.840 like the security dudes like yo, nah nah. So they 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.760 like had to throw him off the bus, but yo, 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.160 he fought his way off the bus. The girl. Yeah nah, 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:57.559 you know, we no get your man, no, you know 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.839 what I mean. But it was funny though. Man, I 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.960 respected dude going after. You know, I remember girls used 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.760 to drive behind the tour bus, go from city to city, 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.200 just following woutang. But that's all part of that road life, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.880 you know at that time, at that time, does it 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:18.559 bother you that is he trying to get it? You know, 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.240 you're trying to have news on the streets still to 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.360 a out door Yeah, I mean you know, um yeah, 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.160 dudes is always moving. Man. You just did Coachella, which 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.160 was huge. Yeah, chef just did that, Me and Goest 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:36.800 eighty five thousand. He Why do you think hip hop 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.800 can't have the same thing that like rock and roll 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.560 has with a rolling stones, can still go out there 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.319 and tour. I mean we could. I mean it's just 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:48.640 all about, you know, making sure everything is organized, you 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.439 know that to be dope to see that, you know, 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.640 I always believe that it's possible. You know. It's just 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.480 all about connecting with the artist. It's like when y'all 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.240 do big shows, you know, y'all y'all tally them up. 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.920 It's like you need to see more of that, while 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.280 wait will only do it once a year, right. I 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.079 think hip hop is younger than rock and roll too, 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.440 so we'll get to that point where, you know, twenty 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.760 years since the only built for Cuban links and it's 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.360 still something that you could go out and do and 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.160 do forty five shows off. This much difficult because somebody 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.000 originators can't go out there and tours. It's very difficult 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.400 for them, very difficult for them. I just like, we 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.400 don't think we support ourselves. And I think in our genre, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:26.800 if we get older, it's like, oh they whacked. Yo. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:28.320 I feel like if it ain't this air that does, 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.280 it ain't gonna happen. If it ain't wut they can 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.679 do it now as they can do it. Yep. You 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.520 know Hole still does it. But it's like if this 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.240 er can't do it, I don't see it. I don't 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.079 see it happening. Yo. The music, it's all about the 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.679 music though. If the music is timeless the people, you know, 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.400 I guess for us, you know, we could still tour 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.199 file first albums. You know, I made a lot of 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.199 money just singing the joints that everybody want to hear, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.679 you know, and not. And sometimes I'll be I'll be like, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.480 you know, I'm tired of doing them. I want to 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.040 do new stuff, but this is what they request. You know, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.640 you can't go to a key sweat join and don't 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.559 think that you ain't gonna hear I want all you know, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:07.240 you trust you know you want those. So we just 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.320 we just have to get the fans what they want. 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.480 You know, you said you feel well. I read somewhere 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.760 where you said you feel better now than you did 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:18.840 twenty years ago. Yeah, just you know, just mentally physically. 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.600 You know, it's just all about knowing your cloth. Now 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.839 I get it. I understand my brand. You know, you 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.960 couldn't feel a certain kind of way if you ain't 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.319 have a brand. Me knowing how internationally this brand is, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.439 It's like, I'm just trying to go out there and 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.160 do what I was supposed to do. You don't. I 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:36.880 don't just do this for me. I do this for 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.199 you know, the flagship or the crew, you know, because 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.520 I know that it can help all of us, you know, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.920 as long as they just know somebody moving. It's like 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.400 Wou Chang is always gonna be in the air. Right. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.599 But made you realize you had to be an entrepreneur um, Like, 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.040 was there a point when you were like, Okay, this 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.000 is ridiculous. I'm not getting this and I'm supposed to 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:57.880 get this should be happening. I need to know what's 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.280 going on with my business. Was there a point time 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.640 when you just realized, didn't say, Okay, I need to 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.080 get this in orders, in order, this in order? Yeah, 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.439 I mean, you know, just just feeling like at some 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.440 point you be getting jerked in the business. You wake up, 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.560 you know, you're like, yo, hold on, let me focus 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.480 and really pay attention to what's going on. You know 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.360 that that might have been for me back in like 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.680 ninety eight ninety nine, my second album, you know, because 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:26.200 once Loud, once Loud did whatever, it didn't diminished. It 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.520 was like I went to UM, I went to another 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.360 set over there by Universal, and you know they was 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.160 kind of scared of me because they didn't know what 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.360 I was thinking, you know, so but me trying to 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.120 still be humbling, you know, let them dictate what they 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.840 may think is right. It's like I failed, you know, 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.080 so announced like I can't even really I gotta go 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.200 with what I feel right now. Is that the reason 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.400 the Mobilarity was so different from I wanted it to 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.880 be different. I want every album to be different. I 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.120 don't never want it to be like, you know, you're 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.360 gonna keep getting the same style for me, you know, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.200 I guess that's I always want every album to be 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.480 even from this one. This one is like, this one 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.480 ain't built on a concept. This one is just lifestyle 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.040 right here. Just you seeing me twenty years later, still 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.600 giving y'all great music, you know, still keeping it where 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.440 y'all would expect me to keep it, and you know, 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:24.480 still still intertwining with the new Nah. This ain't got 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:25.840 nothing to do with them. They ain't coming with the 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.760 right back. I'm keeping a hunting. I ain't gone against them. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.440 You know, I thought it would have been a dope move. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:35.280 But you know, my thing is if you want you want, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.000 you want support, you go out and ask for you 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.960 gotta less support, show you how it works. You know, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.960 you can't try to act like you want support, but 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.360 then you know everything. It's like then what you want 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.720 support for? You know. And we talked about we talked 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.280 about some of the different stuff, you know, doing some 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.760 lines and all. I guess they just ain't really get it. Yeah, 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.600 they ain't understand. Now. What about that last Wooting album 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:03.400 that lest an event? Yeah, but I didn't host it. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.240 You know, it's so funny. I bought a better Tomorrow 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.640 when it came out, and I literally just started listening 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.280 to it like two weeks ago. I don't know why. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.360 I was like, what, I never listened to Better Tomorrow, 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.600 And I was surprised. It was really dope, like really 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:21.360 dope people talking to talking about it. It was different though, 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.800 I mean, you know it was it had a lot 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.440 of positive messages in it, you know, which that's what 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.400 Rizal wanted to do. But um, you know, it was 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.560 just something that he wanted to do. All were you 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.120 with that project a little bit? You know, we was 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.200 still going through our little thing, me and me and 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.960 Woo Chang management. You know, everything cool now, I mean, 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:49.160 you know, not really I was still ain't right, you know, 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.720 but we talking, conversation is open. I mean, these are 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.000 my brothers, man. At ends of the day, you know, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.800 I don't. I don't never look at them like the enemy, 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.440 you know, regards to what we go through. I think 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:07.600 it's just more like we don't understand each other fully yet. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.800 Business wise, maybe you don't connect. Yeah, business wise, we 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.080 don't you ever think that. Maybe y'all have grown apart, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.000 but y'all still trying to keep it together just because 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.280 it's the woll it be like that, I mean, you 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.959 can't walk. It's hard for me to walk away from 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:24.240 something that that that that made me. You know, I 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.560 wasn't cut from that cloth to just not acknowledge that. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.639 You know. One thing about us is like, well, argue 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.920 with you know, go all the way there, but we 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.359 won't physically take it there because you know, when if 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.680 it becomes that, then it's like it won't never come back, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.440 you know, because we need those type of dudes. It's 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.440 like it's always going to haunt us. Like, yo, you 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.280 you got we got it in so I would never 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.879 I would never respect you know more. But you know, 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.680 at the end of the day, it's brotherhood. Man. It's like, 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.960 you know, for somebody who got a big family, brothers 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.240 and sisters, and you know sometimes you love your family 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.840 from distance. You're like, yo, stay over there. I'm gonna 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.680 stay over here, you know. But we don't wish each other. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.720 You know, I don't wish you know, I ain't down 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.679 for that. I don't, you know, because I know when 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.240 you go get a bag, you go home to you 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.680 you know, my nephews, you know, catching the crew got 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.440 names after you know, they you name make seeds after. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.760 Everybody's family is really tight. With each other. So it's 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.280 like you can't just yeah, you can't just walk away 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.840 from that. You know. That's one thing about us. We 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.680 ain't gonna never let money. You know. I'm gonna type 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.359 of dude like this if you if you take something 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.320 from me and it's swing some money and I love you, 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:37.960 it's like, I look at that was a way for 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.000 me to you know, see who you are. So it's 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.239 like if the money was the issue, I know who 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.240 you are now. You know, some people just get addicted to, 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.320 you know, feeling like that's how they gotta handle each 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.240 other's by robbing your friends, you know what I mean. Like, 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.600 if that's what you gotta do, bro, then yo, I 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.639 guess the money. You know, I ain't letting money. I 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.760 ain't letting money over overcome who I am right as 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.680 a person. You know that I ain't gonna do business 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.840 with you if the money, Yeah, you know, shame on 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.159 shame on you the first time. You know, I go 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.480 shame on me the next. It's better, Like, Yo, let's 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:12.240 just stop doing business. We can remain friends. I prefer 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.879 that sometimes even doing business today it's like, you know, 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.240 I let it, dude. No, Like if you feel like 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:21.479 the business is going to mess up the friendship, then yo, 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.560 just keep it moving. But I can't work with somebody 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.800 you know, I don't like you, and we get money, 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.320 but it's hard because people want to hear the music. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:30.960 They want to hear, they want to hear, they want 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.200 to see the clan together like they want to see it. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:34.479 So it was hard, you know, because I know you've 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.439 got people fans coming to you every day, like when 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.400 you're doing another album, when you're going on the road again. 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.160 And not to mention that other guys in the group, 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.080 I'm sure for some people they are dependent on the 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.040 whole entire group coming together because you know, definitely certain 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.520 members sold more records and have more recognition than others, 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.280 so it kind of helps other people out in the group. 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.119 If you're like, Okay, let's go do this together, it 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.479