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Speaker 1: Millie's don't pull it up on Big Facts. What's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? How are you feeling now? This
Speaker 1: was an important one to come to. I'm glad. Timing
Speaker 1: is everything. We definitely had this in the conversation for
Speaker 1: some time, but I think this, this is the perfect time,
Speaker 1: and everything really quickly before we get started, I gotta
Speaker 1: stay shout out the chance, definitely shout out the shot
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Speaker 1: of right, millies, Millies. What's going on? Man? What's on
Speaker 1: your mind today? What's your move? What's your what's your vibration?
Speaker 1: I'm good, bro. I'm like learning, like how to be
Speaker 1: a nationally recognized artist is different. Been him like where
Speaker 1: I'm from, I've been him forever, but now for the
Speaker 1: first time, I'm really learning how to like have an
Speaker 1: artist grind and what it takes, Like the last sixty
Speaker 1: days have been hectic, had been just draining on your body,
Speaker 1: like the type of you know what I mean, the
Speaker 1: type of situations you ain't constantly. I'm used to basically
Speaker 1: being able to do some ship and then fall back
Speaker 1: for five days, and it's not like that once ship
Speaker 1: starts heating up. But I'm taking every opportunity, you know
Speaker 1: what i mean, because it took a long time to
Speaker 1: get here. So I'm just I'm I'm learning and I'm earning,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what's you what you think that
Speaker 1: moment was that kind of took you from being let's
Speaker 1: say we used the word underground underground artists to I
Speaker 1: still feel like I'm an undergrad. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: on underground superstar. I feel like that's like a like
Speaker 1: a category that needs to be out there and wrapped now,
Speaker 1: especially nowadays were like streaming and ship like that. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of underground superstars like but on my guess,
Speaker 1: the moment like I really started to crack through, like
Speaker 1: on some national ship like the BT Cipher two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen, I finessed my way in there. They put
Speaker 1: me on National TV. I was the only rapper probably
Speaker 1: in the history of the BT cipher to be in
Speaker 1: there with no U, with no PR, no label. Hold
Speaker 1: on you want on schedule to be Oh, I wasn't
Speaker 1: on schedule. Bro I knew a cameraman, you know, Chris Robinson,
Speaker 1: the director, so his son, little Chris, he shot the
Speaker 1: cipher in Brooklyn. It's had like a warehouse, and he
Speaker 1: would tell me, um yo, just pull up and maybe
Speaker 1: somebody don't show up. So on two thousand and fourteen,
Speaker 1: I pulled up. I sat for three days. I was hoping,
Speaker 1: like damn, I hope somebody don't show up. It ain't happened.
Speaker 1: Two thousand fifteen, I get to drop on the location again,
Speaker 1: I slide back. I'll wait. This is when Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 1: You remember when Kendrick Lama said something I'm the King
Speaker 1: of New York or some ship like that. So it's
Speaker 1: like a little tense I remember that ship he came
Speaker 1: through did his BT cipher. I sat for those three days.
Speaker 1: The next year two thousand and sixteen. Now, mind you,
Speaker 1: I got bars this whole time. I know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, and I know him. I out wrapped everybody
Speaker 1: in this motherfucker if they let me in. But I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there the first day in two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 1: I'm prepared to sit three days again. I'm really prepared
Speaker 1: to do this ship the twenty years like. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the first day in two thousand and sixteen, I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there and uh, and they tell me, yo, somebody missed
Speaker 1: their flight. So I'm like, oh, it's lit. So a
Speaker 1: little Chris is like, I'm gonna send him a links
Speaker 1: and ship. So he sends the links to like Jesse
Speaker 1: Collins and yo me and um the lady Michelle I
Speaker 1: believe it's her name, and he's like, yeah, they got
Speaker 1: your links. They're looking at your ship right now when
Speaker 1: I see him looking at the phone, but they just
Speaker 1: look wild, unimpressed and ship. And I'm at like the
Speaker 1: catering table where everybody's at and I'm like, you think
Speaker 1: I should go over and talk to him, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: sh shoot your shot because it looks ugly. It looked
Speaker 1: like it was clipped. Like they just look wild, unimpressed.
Speaker 1: And I caught up. I walked across the room. Everybody
Speaker 1: in there. It's like like hotbridge, like eight boogie and
Speaker 1: was in there, like I think Russ was there, like
Speaker 1: maybe not in the general um place where I was at,
Speaker 1: but their camps definitely like a lot of people, probably
Speaker 1: like fifty people in there. I walked across the room
Speaker 1: and I'm like, um yo, Millie's whatever. Just I tried
Speaker 1: to give him my little spill and ship like that
Speaker 1: and uh and he just cut me off. He's like
Speaker 1: wrap bro was blown. I'm like, I got my nerves up,
Speaker 1: like I just I just got to wrap him. But
Speaker 1: I'll be having certain bulletproof wraps, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and whether I'm so, I could be wild drunk, I
Speaker 1: could be an Antartica and the Blizzard with a tank
Speaker 1: top on him. Remember this ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I went to wine of my bulletproof wraps and
Speaker 1: I'm nervous, so like I got nerveus so like my
Speaker 1: voice fake cracking while I'm wrapping this ship. But I
Speaker 1: know I got that ship. So I get eight bars through.
Speaker 1: They're still looking down on the eighth bar. They kind
Speaker 1: of like look up. I'm like, all right, I got
Speaker 1: the attention. By the twelfth bar, I feel like I
Speaker 1: get a little like you know, a little head Bob
Speaker 1: and ship on the sixteen bar. I rapped probably like
Speaker 1: twenty bars and shipped on this near the bought. They
Speaker 1: were all smiling but just a little bit like not
Speaker 1: giving me too much play, but like just a little bit,
Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, we're gonna huddle up about it.
Speaker 1: But I just felt good that I got it off,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to leave nothing on the table
Speaker 1: in life. Who's the first person to reach out to you?
Speaker 1: After that? So after that, so yeah, they came back
Speaker 1: and they said are you in the cipher? Boom put
Speaker 1: me on that ship aired. I ended up leading off
Speaker 1: the awards, you know, I think it was down here, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, yeah, And so I let off the awards.
Speaker 1: Um my ship was actually blown because I came to
Speaker 1: Atlanta and they didn't air my ship in the little stadium, right,
Speaker 1: so I'm like I might be clipped. Then they aired
Speaker 1: it twice on National TV, so it was lit. But
Speaker 1: um yeah we did it. It aired in the Charlotte
Speaker 1: Magne was the first one to uh to say like
Speaker 1: radio yeah, was like she was like, yo that that
Speaker 1: white kid Millie's went crazy and v CO signed it
Speaker 1: and yeah, she just started like getting lit from there.
Speaker 1: And that's when I was like, all right, I could
Speaker 1: really do this ship because before I had just been
Speaker 1: going and I have been getting like paid features and
Speaker 1: being him in Boston, but it wasn't to where I
Speaker 1: wanted it to be at. And that's just showed me like,
Speaker 1: all right, now that ship realistic. And I just followed
Speaker 1: up with that ground like year after year and now
Speaker 1: now we had big facts, man, big fucking facts. Man.
Speaker 1: What's the coaches like in Boston? Like song from Cambridge
Speaker 1: just like a little different, but it's right next to it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like what's the girl who got the
Speaker 1: song about a landing? She's like, you're not from yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's like one of those situations. I got something
Speaker 1: from like like right outside of the So from Cambridge,
Speaker 1: Like we got a lot of basketball players. We gotta
Speaker 1: like Cambridge like a melting pot of people, the most
Speaker 1: languages that spoke. We got like a lot of people
Speaker 1: from the Islands and ship like that, like Patrick you
Speaker 1: from Cambridge, like ra Mell Robinson. We've got basketball players,
Speaker 1: but it's all like six one seven culture, So it's
Speaker 1: right there. Like if you get shot in Cambridge, you
Speaker 1: go to Boston Hospital. We like I'm born in Boston Hospital.
Speaker 1: I went to school. Like if you get shot in
Speaker 1: the cat you got a grety yeah yeah whatever that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like they got it's different, but it's
Speaker 1: the same. But um, now, I mean the culture, you know,
Speaker 1: we were very prideful and like sports and ship like that.
Speaker 1: I feel like we don't got our like like the
Speaker 1: music scene never really popped off since like Bobby Brown
Speaker 1: and like you know like new Addition Zo and No.
Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's tim and it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so like I mean it's it's a good culture of
Speaker 1: artists coming up and ship like that, but we we
Speaker 1: haven't had no stalls to really put the ship on
Speaker 1: the map in a long time. So like a lot
Speaker 1: of people like they don't believe in the music, they're
Speaker 1: just starting to believe now, like for real that it's
Speaker 1: just possible. Because we got me being Joine Lucas. We
Speaker 1: got a few people going crazy. So when you were
Speaker 1: like when you were coming up, um, throughout most of
Speaker 1: your like school career, you were assigned to special education
Speaker 1: classes right because of your because you have a d D. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a d h D and a behavior disorder.
Speaker 1: They said, Okay, right, but everybody, it's just so like
Speaker 1: when you were when you were in those special education classes,
Speaker 1: did that kind of discourage you from trying to be
Speaker 1: normal or did that make you feel like, Okay, I'm different,
Speaker 1: so this is something special about me. Now it's more
Speaker 1: like the first one you said, because it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: Like my classroom is like this right, it's like the
Speaker 1: size of this room and it's just six kids and
Speaker 1: we bug out all day. And I know that it's
Speaker 1: a bunch of normal kids down the hallway because it's
Speaker 1: thirty kids per class. So I'm like, really, cook, there's
Speaker 1: something wrong with me. And so yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: from like the jump, I knew, like I I'm different,
Speaker 1: I'm not normal. So I'm gonna just I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a different path in life. I think that's what it
Speaker 1: taught me. Like I'm gonna take a whole different path
Speaker 1: because I'm young. I'm in sixth grade, but I'm but
Speaker 1: I know, like, all right, if I can't sit in
Speaker 1: the it's common sense. If I can't sit in the
Speaker 1: class with thirty people, something's wrong with me. I gotta
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta take another route. Than them thirty people.
Speaker 1: So college was off the table. Ship like that, really,
Speaker 1: school was off the table. I just wanted to play basketball,
Speaker 1: and once I got cut from the freshman team. But like,
Speaker 1: once I didn't make the freshman team and that was clipped,
Speaker 1: it was all downhire there was at the beginning of
Speaker 1: like some of the street history because ye as soon
Speaker 1: as I got into like the special ed classes between
Speaker 1: like my neighborhood and and and and being in there,
Speaker 1: because it's like, all right, if we're all in the
Speaker 1: special class, we're gonna bond every day on the bad ship,
Speaker 1: Like you're the baddest kid. You're the baddest kid. We're
Speaker 1: the baddest kids. We're gonna figure this ship out. So
Speaker 1: like I feel like that's where it started, because I
Speaker 1: started like trapping like young just being like around him
Speaker 1: with with the mix of that, and then my neighborhood,
Speaker 1: that's where it kind of started snowballing. And once basketball
Speaker 1: was off the table, ship was clipped and it was
Speaker 1: just and then but you go back to the you
Speaker 1: got back to the school sometimes and talk to the kids. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I want to that's that's dope. I went to
Speaker 1: South Boston Hi. That's where, like you know, like the
Speaker 1: movies and ship come from, like The Departed and all that.
Speaker 1: I went to South Boston, HI, and I asked them
Speaker 1: in the class, I said, like, how many of y'all
Speaker 1: feel like you can't be ship in life because you're
Speaker 1: in this class right now, raise your hand. They're all
Speaker 1: like this. So I just want to show them, like
Speaker 1: you could do more. There's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of people in special education. They just don't claim it.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's don't want to claim that. I know I put
Speaker 1: that ship in Dinings, you know what I mean, that
Speaker 1: was my thing, Like I put SPED SPED i e P.
Speaker 1: Individual Education Planning. That's what they give you when they
Speaker 1: first put you in there. So like, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: that's big to me. I just want to show them kids,
Speaker 1: like it's because I thought it was clipped for me
Speaker 1: in life as soon as I was in there. So
Speaker 1: if I could make a little difference by just letting
Speaker 1: them know, like, all right, it's not clipped for you.
Speaker 1: It's how it's however you carry it. You can yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but people don't want to say that they was in
Speaker 1: special education. I just wear that ship proudly, like you know,
Speaker 1: trying to get y'all medicine and ship. Yeah, they had
Speaker 1: me on them. They had me on adderall early, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they had me on adderall to focus or maybe it
Speaker 1: was riddling or adderall yeah, which actually, you know the
Speaker 1: weird shites, that's a focused drug, and I could naturally rap,
Speaker 1: so like I would just focus on rapping all day.
Speaker 1: Like when some of them drugs, I'll be in school
Speaker 1: and I just I'm still not focused on the class.
Speaker 1: I'm just focused on my wraps and ship like that.
Speaker 1: Who you raised about your parents and your mother grandmother mom? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I have my pops until probably like seven eighth
Speaker 1: grade and ship. Um. I would go to his house
Speaker 1: on the weekends. But his house was like an artistic house,
Speaker 1: like you ever heard the single wappa A closer to
Speaker 1: my Yeah, Like when she when she went to Berkeley College,
Speaker 1: she lived with me in that house like my pops
Speaker 1: would have like a lot of artists. But at some point,
Speaker 1: like my mom's took me out of that house. She
Speaker 1: thought it was like, you know, better to kind of
Speaker 1: be around her because it was a little hectic in
Speaker 1: that house. Um, and then I was just yet full
Speaker 1: time with my moms with some of the fix you think, uh,
Speaker 1: not your dad not being around or you're not being
Speaker 1: around your dad, or you're like I feel like, um,
Speaker 1: I feel like I just wasn't kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: not to his detriment because like I funk with my pops. Now,
Speaker 1: like when when you grow up, you realize, all right,
Speaker 1: my pops was just a dude. We having kids, you know,
Speaker 1: we want them to be superheroes and ship. But I
Speaker 1: feel like the ship that shocked me in life was
Speaker 1: like when I would go outside, nobody really told told
Speaker 1: me that, like the world is cold like that I
Speaker 1: had to find out, like I was going outside and
Speaker 1: those punching me in my face for no reason and
Speaker 1: ship like and learning, oh I gotta find I had
Speaker 1: to learn all of this ship by myself, and that
Speaker 1: kind of gave me like a resentment towards him in
Speaker 1: the beginning because I wasn't prepared for violence. I wasn't
Speaker 1: prepared for you know, just kind of like being a
Speaker 1: man type ship. And I had to teach myself that
Speaker 1: and then just look at like whatever role models I
Speaker 1: had to kind of teach me that too. But I
Speaker 1: think that I think that was one of the things
Speaker 1: where it was a little harder being with, you know,
Speaker 1: like a single mom, because she could even my mother's
Speaker 1: like anti violence, Like my mother wasn't even like the
Speaker 1: type to be like, oh, you better go whoop his
Speaker 1: ass like I actually, if she was on that, I
Speaker 1: would have probably called a smack by the time I
Speaker 1: was fifteen, because I learned to fight back myself, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was like, no, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I just realized, like I could either face this ship
Speaker 1: and fight, or I can never come around in the
Speaker 1: basketball courts right next to my house. So see that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna to stay in on him and going to basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta fight. Yeah, you gotta fight. That's what people
Speaker 1: think that people see this ship now, like they think
Speaker 1: it was easy. Like, no, there's nothing the industry could
Speaker 1: do to me that my neighborhood didn't. Because I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I'm well, it might be somebody who don't know me.
Speaker 1: You might not even really be from my neighborhood. You
Speaker 1: might be around dudes was just taking off of me.
Speaker 1: So I had to fight a lot extra, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I got punched in the face for
Speaker 1: no reason, like three or four times until I realized,
Speaker 1: all know, this ship has clipped, like I gotta fight.
Speaker 1: And then after you get that one fight in and
Speaker 1: you see how people treat you like all right, this
Speaker 1: is the remedy right here, like yeah, this is this
Speaker 1: is the remedy, Like just fight back, they're gonna respect it.
Speaker 1: What is it? All the tattoo start ship early because
Speaker 1: my my brother, my brother, um, my father got he
Speaker 1: got three kids, but one of my brothers, he was
Speaker 1: always inked like Travis Barker before Travis Barker, like before
Speaker 1: Wayne before Travels. That's what I looked at, like when
Speaker 1: I'm young, like seven, like my brother was inked the
Speaker 1: funk up and she was blasted. So I always wanted that,
Speaker 1: and he knew he knew a tattoo artist, so I
Speaker 1: got um. I got a queened with the with the
Speaker 1: tattoo artist probably around like like sixteen. And ship. It's
Speaker 1: not a getting blasted. You had a situation shot no jumpers,
Speaker 1: So explain the situation. You got an altercation and you
Speaker 1: had to pull out and you're done? Did it jam
Speaker 1: or fall apart? Because funny thing because people will be
Speaker 1: like uh like catching a wreck on the internet because
Speaker 1: I talked about a divine intervention moment right, Like I'm spiritual.
Speaker 1: I believe in God. I believe. Yeah, I believe God,
Speaker 1: like really got me through some things. So I spoke
Speaker 1: which I'll probably never speak on another like spiritual moment again.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Um, because if you're not,
Speaker 1: if God doesn't have a big effect on your life,
Speaker 1: you might not understand the motherfuckers saying he'd been through
Speaker 1: some hip that he can't explain that only God can explain.
Speaker 1: So yeah, like you know, I talked about the one
Speaker 1: time my ship didn't go off right because to be
Speaker 1: me and to be where I'm from, yeah, like you
Speaker 1: know you could read through the lines, but yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a situation where you feel me basically, like like
Speaker 1: I had a brand new joint and and and this
Speaker 1: was right off the hills and my friends going down
Speaker 1: for a murder free smokes free Buddha they on my arm.
Speaker 1: I was lost. I was trying to figure it out,
Speaker 1: and somebody that gave me a brand new grip. And
Speaker 1: when I tried to let it go in the club,
Speaker 1: which there was security cameras everybody, it ain't goolf And
Speaker 1: then when we went to the bathroom, the ship was
Speaker 1: disassembled and I didn't know how it would be disassembled
Speaker 1: because I don't know how to disassemble a joint. Was
Speaker 1: like the safety like the safety pin was out and
Speaker 1: all of that and uh. And you know, it's funny
Speaker 1: because people go crazy on the internet. But I'm with
Speaker 1: the same homies that we all walked out with. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, why should is very verifiable?
Speaker 1: You could all you could look search the Blanco series.
Speaker 1: You could go to my neighborhood and ask people, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we're timing it. So for
Speaker 1: for people, it's just funny because they're like, all that
Speaker 1: ship was that? Why would I talk about the time
Speaker 1: my ship didn't go off? I'm talking about God. But
Speaker 1: you can't talk about God to ungodly people. Sometimes they're
Speaker 1: not gonna get it, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: you ain't another baby to be the end of it.
Speaker 1: Hell no. And that's the I said, Oh, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's the one thing you'll feel, y'all. Y'all got on it,
Speaker 1: and you know it's wreck because it's real life. It's
Speaker 1: my real life. So yeah, but I have more divine
Speaker 1: intervention moments, you know what I mean. But I keep
Speaker 1: that off the end of it. That's fair enough. What
Speaker 1: do you say, man, being uh white rapper, what's your
Speaker 1: biggest obstacle? Like, what's what's the thing that's just the
Speaker 1: most frustrating to you? Probably when when people just don't
Speaker 1: like you because you're a white rapper? Because I just
Speaker 1: be the thing I have people to be like, he nice,
Speaker 1: but I don't no white rappers, which how I understand,
Speaker 1: Like that's honestly, Like, I feel like the majority of
Speaker 1: people that don't like me is just you know, they
Speaker 1: can't um, they can't get past it that I'm and
Speaker 1: I'm not even a traditional white rapper because I'm like actually,
Speaker 1: like you know, I grew up in the culture. So
Speaker 1: most of the white rappers that made it, like you know,
Speaker 1: if you look at their friend groups, they was you know,
Speaker 1: suburban kids and ship like that, and they cut straight
Speaker 1: through to UM to the white mainstream America. So I
Speaker 1: can't through hip hop. So it's a little different. How
Speaker 1: do you think that you're at a disadvantage because of
Speaker 1: that particular stereotype. No, Like I'm matter if I feel
Speaker 1: like it's harder to make it, but once you make it,
Speaker 1: that's when like the white privilege kick in and they
Speaker 1: give you target ads and you you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you get it's different. So it's harder on the come up,
Speaker 1: but as soon as you crack that door, it's easier
Speaker 1: as a white rapper for sure. And I still don't
Speaker 1: feel like I cracked the door all that way, but
Speaker 1: like you know, that's that's my perception of it, at
Speaker 1: least because white privileges, Yeah, like you know, they're gonna
Speaker 1: put you. They feel like, I don't know, you relate
Speaker 1: to you, like they feel like you're cool enough to
Speaker 1: uh when they feel like you're cool enough to press
Speaker 1: the culture as if you to sit on big facts. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're the one that can influence. So yeah, you know
Speaker 1: with it with a little wink like film one of
Speaker 1: those yeah we got you, yeah ship like that. See
Speaker 1: it happened, So it worked both ways. But then like
Speaker 1: certain things like I think people um say, like like
Speaker 1: to me, like eminem Raw, like he's one of the
Speaker 1: one of the greatest rappers ever, Like I don't think
Speaker 1: he's overrated because because he's white. See what I'm saying
Speaker 1: it's just another conversation. But in there's certain rappers I think,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, like like like an m c K for instance,
Speaker 1: like he went to all like he he went um
Speaker 1: to rock music without the blink of an eye, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, with the blink of an eye.
Speaker 1: So that's like your fan base is really just jacking
Speaker 1: you because you're white. To me, m M, I don't
Speaker 1: like you know, yeah, it makes sense, say what you
Speaker 1: feel you got, you got any regret so through life
Speaker 1: or through your rap career with him? Now, I really don't.
Speaker 1: I really don't honestly, Like I was talking to my
Speaker 1: men about it the other day, like I feel like
Speaker 1: everything is meant to be, should happen when it happens,
Speaker 1: Everything is meant to be. Yeah, I can't. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't say I regret nothing. I mean like I do.
Speaker 1: But there's and ship like I've been there, Like I
Speaker 1: wish I told like certain homies back in the day
Speaker 1: to not do certain ship that they did that you know,
Speaker 1: like my brothers are doing life and ship like that
Speaker 1: like natural life like so, but at the time them,
Speaker 1: we're young. I don't know, so I get like those regrets.
Speaker 1: But it's it's ship that I would have never known anyway.
Speaker 1: They said, we're not get big. We talked about that sometime.
Speaker 1: I'm going a big fast Friday, Like what what? What
Speaker 1: do you think the fine line is in the streets
Speaker 1: of minding your business because you're kind of it's kind
Speaker 1: of like mandy your business, but on the other end,
Speaker 1: kind of not minding your business too. Help your homies
Speaker 1: from crashing out of ship. Yeah, it's hard because I
Speaker 1: look at I look at wrapped like I look at
Speaker 1: wrapped like, um, it's like a race to save people.
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it, Like it's like a
Speaker 1: It's like a race to save my youngest I've saved
Speaker 1: people that's around me. But I preached sometimes it's hard
Speaker 1: to preach like what I do. Like even when my
Speaker 1: youngers in my neighborhood, I'll take you out, I'll put
Speaker 1: you around some real lit ship and then I'll have
Speaker 1: that conversation with you, like you wanna be around this
Speaker 1: so you want to, you know, because I'm not the
Speaker 1: greatest role model, I can't just tell you every day
Speaker 1: like all right, get out the streets because woo woo woo,
Speaker 1: Like you know, all I could do is show you
Speaker 1: that there's like another life. But yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a fine line because you could tell somebody something, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna do what they want to do. And a
Speaker 1: lot of motherfucker's they frontal lobe isn't even developed. It's
Speaker 1: a part of your brain that develops after twenty four
Speaker 1: or something like that. So it's hard to talk to
Speaker 1: somebody your whole brain ain't even developed and crashing out
Speaker 1: because I was there, I was crashing, crashing. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like you're go ahead to um your whole career?
Speaker 1: You got to prove yourself because you went to the coach,
Speaker 1: maybe not to the culture, just like um, yeah to
Speaker 1: the nonbelievers. Like I feel like I've probably proven myself
Speaker 1: to the maybe like not like down South yet as much,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but like, like you know,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of stamps and this ship. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like even even if you go around
Speaker 1: like the goats, like the Jay's and all of them,
Speaker 1: do you feel like it's a sense of I gotta
Speaker 1: show them that I'm I'm this like musically, yeah, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna always Yeah, definitely, you gotta always like always deliver.
Speaker 1: And the Crazy Ship row was I wrapped more than
Speaker 1: any other rapper. Like if you look at my freestyles
Speaker 1: and you're go online, I wrapped. I'm wrapping more than
Speaker 1: any other rapper in the world for the last three
Speaker 1: years literally statistically realistically, I'm going to like this year,
Speaker 1: I already did on I ain't gonna say the platforms
Speaker 1: on here, but like I've wrapped for like fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: which is like somebody's album. If you could sit down
Speaker 1: and wrap four four minutes straight at somebody's album, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'm doing that thirty minutes
Speaker 1: a year consistently, Like I'm wrapping. The guys who are nice,
Speaker 1: who do do high level wrap, they're rapping like once
Speaker 1: once or twice thing might do you know, like the
Speaker 1: Leakers or something here and there a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: you got one of the most more than all of
Speaker 1: them from Elite Coach Signs. Though from that's the next question,
Speaker 1: how did that even come about? And how how is
Speaker 1: it man that came on? That came I moved to
Speaker 1: New York. I moved to New York when I was
Speaker 1: at like when I was at the height of my
Speaker 1: ship in Boston, I had just did summer jam with
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj. I just knew, like all it was like
Speaker 1: a glass ceiling. It was like you did this, but
Speaker 1: that's it, Like it's still no national recognition. So I
Speaker 1: moved to New York. I was taking a little the
Speaker 1: Chinese bus back and forth, fifteen dollars a day until
Speaker 1: I realized on, like, I gotta get a spot out here.
Speaker 1: I got a little spot in the Bronx. In that
Speaker 1: same week, I met Kiss through My Man Set Free.
Speaker 1: My Man Set Free. Um, it's like an older guy
Speaker 1: who really helped me out on my career, and um,
Speaker 1: I paid him for a feature, but he was working
Speaker 1: with the song already. And then after that, I just
Speaker 1: kept following up with him, like if he would be
Speaker 1: in the club, if he were being like starlets or
Speaker 1: something ship for a walk through. I just figure out
Speaker 1: how to finesse my way get in there and make
Speaker 1: sure he's seen me. If he'd be at the regular
Speaker 1: club a show, I figure out how to, you know,
Speaker 1: just get face time with him until his man ice
Speaker 1: picked J started really like listening to my ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ice Peak. J Ice picked Jay listened to my ship
Speaker 1: and really started on like diving into it and realizing like,
Speaker 1: oh now he could sing, he could wrap, he can
Speaker 1: all of that, and uh he told kids, you know
Speaker 1: you should you should um you should co sign him
Speaker 1: man and put him on your label and ship like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's how that happened. Who do you feel
Speaker 1: like believe in you the most? Like from the begining
Speaker 1: of everything, beside just said blood Like in life, I say, like,
Speaker 1: my man Creeze, shout out the Creeze. I never said
Speaker 1: that in a in an interview. He like, he's my man.
Speaker 1: But he was like an m M A fighter too,
Speaker 1: not a real m M A fighter, but he could
Speaker 1: fucking mm A fight up. So like he really, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, m M A fight up. We fought the
Speaker 1: Boston Marathon bomb or two. I never talked. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you all about that later, right, But my man Creeze
Speaker 1: stood with me like since I was like twelve thirteen.
Speaker 1: He telling he's like that boxing coach telling me you
Speaker 1: to go bro. You don't understand you to go bro.
Speaker 1: So we'd have shows and then just be me and
Speaker 1: him sometimes, but he'd be behind me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and anybody like if a rapper dissed me,
Speaker 1: he go beat him up if you talk bad about me,
Speaker 1: and go beat you up constantly. So he was the muscle.
Speaker 1: He was my coach, you know what I mean, My
Speaker 1: my my fighting coach. He was all of that, and
Speaker 1: I needed that because you know, like I wouldn't fight,
Speaker 1: but I can't fight like him. So you know, Creek
Speaker 1: Creese was really there for me, like step by step
Speaker 1: for re suck and shout on my dog. Would you
Speaker 1: get into like a rap beef for somebody just at
Speaker 1: this point trying to get at you and don't know,
Speaker 1: like because it's like it's a pain, you know that
Speaker 1: ship like Federal, I don't know, it's it's getting a
Speaker 1: little nasty too, like like yeah, because I don't want
Speaker 1: just like wrap be It depends how, you know, if
Speaker 1: it's But I wouldn't say yeah, like if somebody dissed
Speaker 1: me who was like um above me and stature and
Speaker 1: it could be just some like you know, ship on
Speaker 1: wax or whatever, and I could just flame them like
Speaker 1: that and up my career. I would do that, But
Speaker 1: I'm not rapping down to nobody because anyone just want
Speaker 1: to hurt you, you know what I mean? Because what
Speaker 1: am I doing? Like, yeah, I'm not it's not an
Speaker 1: even trade, but I'd wrap up at somebody for sure.
Speaker 1: What about on some social media ship, I'm no, hell no,
Speaker 1: none of it. I can't even say sucking my dick
Speaker 1: on Instagram no more. That's to take my page and
Speaker 1: that should be crushing me inside. You know, you just
Speaker 1: want to fire all that suck my thick bowls off block.
Speaker 1: I used to hit him with the suck my dick
Speaker 1: boso block. I can't even do that no more? So
Speaker 1: what is the platform for us to be free? Facts?
Speaker 1: But it was the crazy on Twitter? Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why I'll be telling a little crazy on Twitter, I guess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta go on Twitter to grand say come to
Speaker 1: my come on my Twitter. G Yeah, you like Instagram,
Speaker 1: don't play fair? Yeah, I mean ship like I still
Speaker 1: got my page, so yeah, I'm seeing like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't really talk crazy like that. You can't even like
Speaker 1: say certain ships and another nigga's comments and they'll still
Speaker 1: try to like flag you man, that ship is wicked
Speaker 1: to Trump with Joe Biden neither neither. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: um Barack Obama or oh maybe Bernie Sanders. I like
Speaker 1: the Bernie Sanders. I like Bernie. I think Bernie could
Speaker 1: have did it. Bernie. I like Bernie. But you Joe
Speaker 1: Biden Donald Trump? Oh man, he said, neither. Can I
Speaker 1: skate with that one? You'll vote, you vote for sure.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, don't man, that's the lesser two, Eve,
Speaker 1: don't take the safe No, it ain't safe. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. Like I really hated Trump when he was
Speaker 1: in there, and then I thought, like, I don't know
Speaker 1: it was and then I started seeing like Joe Bhaden,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like similar like to him, like you know,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I was. I've been off of politics, like
Speaker 1: I've just been off of it completely, like I don't
Speaker 1: got no faith in it, like this clip, I don't
Speaker 1: pay attention to it. I was even paying attention to
Speaker 1: the Russian Ukraine War until they started telling me all
Speaker 1: the raceship and I said, I'm not tuning into this
Speaker 1: no more neither. So who's your celebrity crush coming up? Scissor? Well,
Speaker 1: that's reason yeah, yeah coming up maybe man? Right now?
Speaker 1: Still right now? Yeah, Yeah, I'm never in like two
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen or something like that up you know, like
Speaker 1: I was laying on a beach chair. I was in
Speaker 1: south By, Southwest, and then it was like some sort
Speaker 1: of I don't know, smoker's club house party type vibe.
Speaker 1: I had a good beach chair and she walked by
Speaker 1: and I just said with something. She was smiling off right,
Speaker 1: and I felt like, you know, if I could have
Speaker 1: pursued it, maybe, but you from yeah, yeah, now it's
Speaker 1: just like a little bit but not like a freeze.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, yeah, I love your music and
Speaker 1: ship like that. But she kept walking but like I
Speaker 1: probably had a little space to like, you know, like
Speaker 1: she talking and ship. I was like, no, like you
Speaker 1: gotta manifest that happen again now for sure coming up
Speaker 1: though um probably maya, maya maya, but I say maya TLC,
Speaker 1: maya TLS all three tells all three like different reasons.
Speaker 1: I like chilly though, I like left, I like the
Speaker 1: t balls. Women women, Well that's a year. That's what
Speaker 1: I grew up with, for sure. What made you? What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like why you just go get your white one?
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like around like that. So like the
Speaker 1: time by the time I was by the time, I
Speaker 1: was like me and like, see, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: controversial because like I like old women though, like especially now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, growing up, growing up, I was kind of
Speaker 1: like anti like white girl. I wasn't jacking them because
Speaker 1: first of all, like if I met him, they was
Speaker 1: like kind of like the college white girls and it
Speaker 1: was kind of goofy to me. Or they were super
Speaker 1: like street bitches from like like Childstown Projects and Ship.
Speaker 1: It's like super ratchet like so yeah, but my preference
Speaker 1: growing up was black women definitely. Now it's it's all women. Um,
Speaker 1: just if you didn't like the goofies and you didn't
Speaker 1: like the superraption, I just like, um, I just like
Speaker 1: just swag the beauty ship like that. And then it's
Speaker 1: like also like you know, um, black girls helped me
Speaker 1: like a lot, like in my neighborhood even coming up,
Speaker 1: because they really be like leave him alone, that's my
Speaker 1: friend from Yeah, not that the dudes like listen to Ship.
Speaker 1: I was friends. I was friends. Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: I was friends with like a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of black girls like those some of my homies, and
Speaker 1: they would vouch for me, like in the neighborhood, like
Speaker 1: you know, even shout out Lady Repo. She was one
Speaker 1: of the ross rappers and she used to tell me
Speaker 1: you have to leave him alone forever. So yeah, where
Speaker 1: you got the baddest women in your opinion? See it
Speaker 1: the pen like, because I really feel like they're all
Speaker 1: over but and you're gonna get me in trouble. But
Speaker 1: I say it depends. I don't know. That's tough. M No,
Speaker 1: no kids, okays, Yeah, yeah, that's a tough question. But
Speaker 1: like Atlanta, at Atlanta got the best stop clubs for
Speaker 1: sure by far you've been, you've been through and that
Speaker 1: you've been through all on most of yeah, yeah, most
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, I've been coming out here for a
Speaker 1: little while. Okay, if you moved up, you moved from
Speaker 1: New York. When if you move from New York to
Speaker 1: nothing City, way would it be? I want a big
Speaker 1: crib in the South, like I never had a house
Speaker 1: my whole life still to this day, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I want I want a house with
Speaker 1: a backyard. That's what I want. I want a house
Speaker 1: with a backyard. So I want to go to the
Speaker 1: South for real with the black girl. You ain't have mad,
Speaker 1: have mad legal gripshun around, get the big truck. I
Speaker 1: have stupid army in South here yeah like that's yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah I could. I could move to um I've never
Speaker 1: been to Houston enough and here is let but I
Speaker 1: can move to Georgia. Ye speaking of like dunes? Man,
Speaker 1: what's you think the solution is all this crazy? Just
Speaker 1: have to shoot the ship like if you were if you,
Speaker 1: if you had your say, so how we could in politics?
Speaker 1: So like yeah, like I don't know where to lead
Speaker 1: me on a political ship, but I feel like I right,
Speaker 1: First of all, you said you should make it super
Speaker 1: hard to get um like like like any type of
Speaker 1: like chop, like it should be easy to get a
Speaker 1: hand gunning hard to get a solved, right first, right,
Speaker 1: I think that. So I know that most people, probably
Speaker 1: like in the South, in different places, like they believe
Speaker 1: you should have all of that ship. Right, I think
Speaker 1: you should probably make it hard to get the ship
Speaker 1: to commote people down super quick. And but everybody should
Speaker 1: have the right to have a pole. And I think
Speaker 1: they should put UM security in the schools, but like
Speaker 1: trained shooters that don't freeze up like you know, really,
Speaker 1: because the most UM the most non violent people are
Speaker 1: most violent, if that makes sense, Like you know, like
Speaker 1: a kungtuble motherfucker, Like he's not really gonna start a
Speaker 1: fight with you. He and I can do. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the train shooters not itching the bust bust their gun,
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. So I would probably get put
Speaker 1: one of them because we got the budget, and that's
Speaker 1: not the school budget, that's in the police budget. We'll
Speaker 1: put one of them motherfucker's at each school. And because
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if that little kid who ran in there
Speaker 1: and killed all them kids, if he knew, oh now,
Speaker 1: he's gonna blow me down as soon as I go
Speaker 1: in there. Should it be different you having me tracking
Speaker 1: the cameras all on his phone, got the pole on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and blow them school shooters down. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: I don't know where that ends me, like politically or
Speaker 1: not the Republican or whatever, but yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what's some of mill these goals man like personal
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? We know obviously a career
Speaker 1: goes to what water? Yeah, I wanna um, I just
Speaker 1: want to save people with wrap like and do it
Speaker 1: like in an accelerated process, like I wanna that's that's
Speaker 1: how I look at it. I feel like I've already
Speaker 1: saved like three to four to five people just straight
Speaker 1: out the streets. Like I know for a fact that
Speaker 1: there wasn't running around with me, they'd be and that ship.
Speaker 1: And I want to do that for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I want to put artists on. I want to put
Speaker 1: at least five six artists on where they could have
Speaker 1: you know, a whole uh group of people to eat
Speaker 1: off of them ship like that. I think, so like
Speaker 1: just those are my attainable goals, Like I just want
Speaker 1: to get as big as I could get in the
Speaker 1: music game and funking around and just put artists on
Speaker 1: after that. Um yeah, that's my that's my life goals
Speaker 1: in the next year for real. So, um, how you
Speaker 1: keep from letting like getting bullet as a kid keep
Speaker 1: you from being built up like towards the world? Um? Now,
Speaker 1: that ship just made me tough, Like I appreciate it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it more like I don't know, like it
Speaker 1: never made me better cause like I had a lot
Speaker 1: of people that like, like I learned what a win
Speaker 1: and the loss was early. Yeah, a lot of people
Speaker 1: never even learn what a win and the losses you're
Speaker 1: really just going through life. You're not taking I'm taking
Speaker 1: extreme wins and extreme losses, so I appreciate it for real,
Speaker 1: like you already know how to feel, to be, to
Speaker 1: feel yeah, yeah, hell yeah. And then you also learned like,
Speaker 1: all right, this ship didn't kill me. Motherfuckinger stopped me out.
Speaker 1: I'm doing then I know how to do this. Mother
Speaker 1: stopped me out. My face is intact, get up, shake
Speaker 1: my ship off, go to the house, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm alive. And then the next day and i'm And
Speaker 1: the next day you come out and and it's good,
Speaker 1: and then and then and then you feel the feeling
Speaker 1: of winning the fight. You're like, goddamn Georgia foolman out.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, um, yeah, that's why I'm
Speaker 1: not better, bro, because it's like I had to learn
Speaker 1: to take wins and losses because even through my rap career,
Speaker 1: I took while rejection. But it just feels like getting
Speaker 1: stomped out in sixth grade, you know, like that's all
Speaker 1: they feels like, just emotionally. So yeah, that's that's just
Speaker 1: a blessing man for real. What's that golden moment for you.
Speaker 1: Millie's in the studio with the golden moment, like it
Speaker 1: makes it all worth it, just the person I always
Speaker 1: wanted to sit down and collaborate with man Um. I
Speaker 1: was in the studio one day, like so they used
Speaker 1: to have the D Block studios and young because it's
Speaker 1: like it's just like you would think you've ever been there.
Speaker 1: It's just like you would think a D Block studio
Speaker 1: would be. It's in like a factory building, you know,
Speaker 1: like Rugged Ship ninety motherfucker's and then Timberland ship like that.
Speaker 1: And I came in there one day and Kiss was
Speaker 1: right into something and the ship was so hard and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, bro, can I write to that. It
Speaker 1: took me just courage just to ask him that it's
Speaker 1: like right, and I laid my verse and that ship
Speaker 1: made it on his album that was Government Cheese. But
Speaker 1: like that Um, that verse like me writing side by
Speaker 1: side with Kiss and getting on his album that was
Speaker 1: That was it for me. Yeah, Like, can't nobody funck
Speaker 1: with me? Like I didn't sat down with Kiss, and
Speaker 1: I meant no artists could funk with me in the world.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel like because I sat down with Kiss.
Speaker 1: I panned the sixteen, he loved it and put it
Speaker 1: on his album, and he really the best. Like there's
Speaker 1: other like great rappers, but nobody his age, or or
Speaker 1: or the ten years under, ten years under, nobody, and
Speaker 1: none of these brackets can funk with him right now
Speaker 1: A sixteen whoever, No, he showed it. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: he's sharp, like we just came from New Orleans. Like
Speaker 1: he's sharp, Like I'm watching, I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you do that because I'm way younger and I'm
Speaker 1: and I forget some lines. I might get drunk in
Speaker 1: my shows. I I would I cut this song. I
Speaker 1: forgot that ship to play the next one, not kiss.
Speaker 1: You're on bar for bar for bar for bar. You
Speaker 1: don't slipping on stumble on the word. He's different, well
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, there were times when I'm show the
Speaker 1: word where you were thinking about giving up because it
Speaker 1: was just funked up, Like how happy are you now
Speaker 1: that you did? Not? Man, it's everything. I cried on
Speaker 1: the plane. I ain't gonna lie like. I had a
Speaker 1: crazy day in l A. Probably like three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: maybe four weeks ago, I had met um Man. It
Speaker 1: was just a crazy day. Somebody was on my phone.
Speaker 1: I can't even say right now, but somebody was on
Speaker 1: my phone. And then I went and I sat down
Speaker 1: with Snoop, and Snoop just like lectured me for like,
Speaker 1: you know, like an hour and traded game with me. Men.
Speaker 1: I ran into my guy Massy. I threw the sped
Speaker 1: chain on him because he threw you know, he showed
Speaker 1: me so much love. And people was calling my phone
Speaker 1: about incredible ship. And I actually just got kicked off
Speaker 1: a plane. I got kicked off a plane, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't even tripping out. They let me on the next
Speaker 1: plane and I just sat there. Man, I shed a
Speaker 1: terror joy. I was like, yo, I can't I was like,
Speaker 1: I was just like, yo, I can't believe me up now.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like because I just believed, and I
Speaker 1: don't know where the belief was coming from, because I
Speaker 1: was just getting so much rejection, you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that should suck me up. Like I just I just
Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe it. I shed a tear
Speaker 1: for real, Like, so what nohing knowing what you know? Now?
Speaker 1: What would you tell the younger you? Like when you
Speaker 1: was thinking about when you was taking those sixth grade
Speaker 1: I say keep going and and I say keep going,
Speaker 1: and like you know, I thought I thought my cut
Speaker 1: off age was thirty and that's when I turned it up.
Speaker 1: What do you mean my cut off age? I thought
Speaker 1: that was it for a rapper, Like that was so
Speaker 1: just for me to like go crazy. See like after
Speaker 1: my cutoff age, in my mind, I would have told myself, now,
Speaker 1: I don't don't trip like you got it. So how
Speaker 1: your mom received the rep crew man? She loved it,
Speaker 1: but she knows this it's like a dangerous job too,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So she's very proud that
Speaker 1: them that them that I'm out the streets. But she also,
Speaker 1: like you know, um, she loved it though, like her
Speaker 1: friends and ship could be hearing about me, like all
Speaker 1: that kids here about me, like she like a like
Speaker 1: a celebrity mom sometimes you know, especially where we're from. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, she knows it's it's a grind like my
Speaker 1: mother's like my therapist and ship. So she's gonna here
Speaker 1: all the way. I try not even to put the
Speaker 1: bad ship on her now though, like you know, I
Speaker 1: try to just keep it like but but I'm used
Speaker 1: to having her as like my therapist, so she love it.
Speaker 1: Do you think the press is more intense of trying
Speaker 1: to get there trying to stay there? That's good, good
Speaker 1: ask questions? Um shit, probably trying to It's like both
Speaker 1: because it's like frink like. But yeah, the pressure is
Speaker 1: up now because because if my ship fall off, like now,
Speaker 1: I'm actually feeding people before like if I lose, nobody
Speaker 1: else really fact I lost. Now if I lose ten, fifteen,
Speaker 1: twenty people lose, you know. So yeah, and I just
Speaker 1: want to do it for my states. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the pressures stay on. Ye what you think the pressure?
Speaker 1: I feel that pressure every day. Absolutely. I really don't
Speaker 1: know what we're doing we're doing, but I mean the
Speaker 1: pressure of, like you said, doing what you have to
Speaker 1: do because you know that now you're in the position
Speaker 1: where more people are depending on you is definitely like
Speaker 1: a ton of pressure because you know, like one slip,
Speaker 1: all this ship can be gone, and then that means
Speaker 1: that all of all these people that's depending on the
Speaker 1: ship it's gonna be gone too. I just feel like
Speaker 1: in my in my situation, it just a different plate
Speaker 1: than on fixting because I've been had to fixt place
Speaker 1: since I was fourteen, same pressure, take care of you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's the same ship that
Speaker 1: I was always like, you know, I was always a
Speaker 1: single child. I didn't have no kids purposely, So now
Speaker 1: it's just falling on So it's different like if you yeah,
Speaker 1: if you had it my feet up now, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like we're just coaching before
Speaker 1: the fold this month. So but that's yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: life supposed to be like for sure. But now I
Speaker 1: I like as an artist, now if I was a rapper,
Speaker 1: I would feed that different that different. Were there talking
Speaker 1: ship kicking, ship winning, no competition, so it is what
Speaker 1: it is, even the competition that we do. Hell, they
Speaker 1: were calling in trade game with each other, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So it ain't really competition. But this rap ship, you
Speaker 1: got them drop a hot song and then you drop album,
Speaker 1: and you drop another album and then they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he launched it. I swear to god, I was thinking
Speaker 1: about my next album, Like we number one on iTunes
Speaker 1: right now. After last album we tried at Billboard, so
Speaker 1: I was already like, all right, I gotta try to
Speaker 1: higher on Billboard or if it's over for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then this one, I'm like, damn, Like I really
Speaker 1: don't pull out the stops for this. I got five
Speaker 1: year old foreign I have five year old foreign bringings.
Speaker 1: Told us to the projects in my in my city,
Speaker 1: like I'm doing incredible ship, and I'm like, Yo, how
Speaker 1: do I talk that? I don't. I don't want to,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like it's like, where's the you
Speaker 1: feel me? I just meant money back outside of here,
Speaker 1: So like that's like a feature I gotta do some
Speaker 1: incredible ship right now, right now? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Nah,
Speaker 1: for sure we're not getting big, are you? Probably one
Speaker 1: of the most outside Repperts. Is that just part of
Speaker 1: how you outside? But you know that we see I'm
Speaker 1: really I'm talking about like really like the South Side.
Speaker 1: I'll be in the fucking the trend cheetos. I had
Speaker 1: a couple off days in New York right in my schedule,
Speaker 1: and and I had two feature videos I had to
Speaker 1: do boom, so I one of them already knowing my
Speaker 1: man's like he's from East New York. Like I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, So he sent me the address. We're in Cyprus.
Speaker 1: Projects in East New York, which is like the worst
Speaker 1: ship in the world, you know what I mean. Boom
Speaker 1: and he's on my off days, A hundred motherfucker's out there.
Speaker 1: The next day, I'm like, all right, where's the video
Speaker 1: for the feature Queen's Bridge projects Boom out, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's just like, Yo, the ship is
Speaker 1: concert and then like yeah, but that's one of the
Speaker 1: things I pride myself for. Man, I'm not scared of nothing,
Speaker 1: but god, you know what I mean. So I've always
Speaker 1: been like that, bro I've been in I've been running
Speaker 1: around and landing. I shot a video on on On Boulevard.
Speaker 1: That's a spot, right, was a project yeah before Yeah Boulevard.
Speaker 1: I came down here because I had UM. I was
Speaker 1: on a feature with UM. This is like ten years ago.
Speaker 1: I came down and I was on a song with
Speaker 1: Blue Da Vinci and because O Fly and we shot
Speaker 1: it in like the projects in the Lantashers. So it's
Speaker 1: like it always been like that. My man Dylan here,
Speaker 1: he didn't have me out in the trenches since I
Speaker 1: was a little kid in Boston. Like you know, documented
Speaker 1: you think that's somewhat of the away with what I
Speaker 1: was saying earlier, like proving yourself like that you'll pull up.
Speaker 1: There's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna pull up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like maybe it's a pull up,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of just like I just don't feel that,
Speaker 1: like you not for nothing. I went to Haiti because
Speaker 1: I grew up with all those motherfucker's told me, right now,
Speaker 1: do you not go to Haiti? Don't go to Haiti.
Speaker 1: That's what they told me. They're getting kidnapped left for right.
Speaker 1: This is what Haitians are telling me. You feeling, Oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm on the plane and it got crunchy out there,
Speaker 1: But I just feel love for re because it's different.
Speaker 1: It's different than America. Like that word, by the way,
Speaker 1: just done, that's my word. I crunchy out there because
Speaker 1: it was like, um, we had SUV's, we got twelve SUVs,
Speaker 1: and we got sticks, big fucking sticks. It doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: It don't matter because they're gonna look at you and
Speaker 1: be like, shoot you point that ship right, shoot you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that's what type of time
Speaker 1: they want with the dudes out there. Like it's just
Speaker 1: it's a different it's a different level but shout out
Speaker 1: head it was beautiful though, Like it was beautiful. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going anywhere, bro. I told motherfucker's you could book
Speaker 1: me in Ukraine right now. I'm dead as can book
Speaker 1: me and Ukraine for a hund of stacks right now.
Speaker 1: I need that six figures. I'll go out there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I'll take your word and
Speaker 1: be straight. I got God with me, Like I go anywhere,
Speaker 1: I'll go anywhere in the world. It's proven, documented, factual.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, scream the outside. I like that. A lot
Speaker 1: of fun out of this deli onto you, man, because
Speaker 1: they don't be understanding, like no, like a lot of
Speaker 1: these rappers, they be in the house man, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know, they never experienced divine intervention. You're going back
Speaker 1: to the divine intervention. No, nobody want to shoot, no
Speaker 1: white but you privilege because the motherucker definitely empty this
Speaker 1: hole on me in front of my mother's house. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought about a word, but then I remembered, like
Speaker 1: the flashes and the banks, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: that she changed after you see that muzzle flash. Yeah, time,
Speaker 1: and then you always add that bullshit that question question
Speaker 1: please time, Like like domond Now, I like when I
Speaker 1: had time, No bullshit, I don't got time no more.
Speaker 1: But like when I had time, I liked the strip club,
Speaker 1: and I like going there early? Too early? What because
Speaker 1: you can now listen? Listen, listen, listen. I don't understand
Speaker 1: why people go to strip club late, right, you might
Speaker 1: as well go there when all the girls check in
Speaker 1: the work, like because other than that, like it's just competent.
Speaker 1: Why you want more to wait until all the dudes
Speaker 1: is there? If all the girls get here at eleven o'clock,
Speaker 1: how somebody from Atlanta giving us Atlanta, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Atlanta but New York. I'm install
Speaker 1: it at twelve, all the strips is there, all the
Speaker 1: bottle girls is there at eleven thirty. People don't get
Speaker 1: there until two o'clock in the morning. So my thousand
Speaker 1: dollars is gonna look like five thousand dollars, whereas my
Speaker 1: thousand dollars at two o'clock, it's gonna look like two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. And they don't care about that measly two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. So it's like I'm stretching my money. That's
Speaker 1: what I've always yeah, stretching a look at all of that. God,
Speaker 1: I'm building relationships. But that's that's my that's my all time.
Speaker 1: That's what I do all the time. What you what
Speaker 1: some of your favorite liquor with some of your favorite food,
Speaker 1: that type of ship culture and lifestyle type. I like,
Speaker 1: like right now, like I had a um, I had
Speaker 1: like a like a kind of like a hole in
Speaker 1: my stomach. So for for like a while, like in
Speaker 1: the lining of my stomach from like eating like spicy
Speaker 1: food and popping pills or whatever the funk. It was
Speaker 1: ad villain ship like that. But I started eating like, um,
Speaker 1: grilled chicken after that, like grilled chicken. So now I
Speaker 1: really be on like a lot of like on Colombian food,
Speaker 1: like Mexican food now because they just got rice beans
Speaker 1: grilled chickens. Like I try to keep it simple, but
Speaker 1: I love I love I love old food though I
Speaker 1: love Haitian food, I love jamaking food. If I want
Speaker 1: to go to sleep, um yeah, like I like a
Speaker 1: like a good put me to sleep plate. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: on that Reperssado, Repersado Blanco, my whole album about Repersato,
Speaker 1: talk about that album, man um just like a mixture
Speaker 1: of like high level rap, pain, emotion based music, touching
Speaker 1: on a lot of subjects depression, you know what I mean, anger, sadness, joy,
Speaker 1: heart beats. We got a lot of features. We got Marzi,
Speaker 1: we got on five Yo Farr and Jada Kiss Styles,
Speaker 1: p Oh, I got on there, more Peasy from Detroit,
Speaker 1: Cousin STIs from Boston. We we got we got a
Speaker 1: plethora artists that ship, Um it's fired. Did that? Did
Speaker 1: that make a competitive for you? Having all those features
Speaker 1: like making sure your verse was in But I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm a good A and R though, So like
Speaker 1: when I approached somebody, like when I go like get
Speaker 1: my money back, yo versus gonna be the best I'm
Speaker 1: gonna find it. I know what I like out of
Speaker 1: certain artist, Like I was telling him, like I like
Speaker 1: your pain ship. I like like get shipped with Kodak
Speaker 1: and ship like that. So that's what I try to
Speaker 1: give an artist something that I feel is right in
Speaker 1: pocket for him, like I gave five or something I
Speaker 1: knew he would go crazy on. Everyone goes crazy on
Speaker 1: their feature versus with me, Like if you look at
Speaker 1: my herbo verse, you look at my my Benny very
Speaker 1: kiss anybody. Everybody wraps up to the highest level for sure.
Speaker 1: And I got a reputation as a lyricist, so I
Speaker 1: think that helps you. What's some of the most key
Speaker 1: or clutch information you would give somebody on the come
Speaker 1: up or a young personal game man, I would say, like,
Speaker 1: get your face clean with people, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like pull up, get face value with people as much
Speaker 1: as you can. You gotta be ready to die for it.
Speaker 1: You gotta be ready to like you gotta be ready
Speaker 1: to um, to sacrifice comfort. You gotta be ready to
Speaker 1: to jump at every opportunity because like some motherfucker's that
Speaker 1: feel like they're bigger than an opportunity. Like if I
Speaker 1: know that there's a fifteen percent when I was coming up,
Speaker 1: if I knew that there's a fifteen percent chance like
Speaker 1: I could meet you somewhere, I'm gonna take that fifteen
Speaker 1: percent chance that that other chance is not gonna register
Speaker 1: in my head. I'm gonna say, all right, this is
Speaker 1: this is worth it. And I did that every time.
Speaker 1: It's like THEE for two years straight. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm but I'm like that, bro, Like if I
Speaker 1: hadn't made it right now. If I was coming up
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, you would have seen me ninety times. I
Speaker 1: would have been outside even even with even with this
Speaker 1: conversation you want to do it, but your team was persistent,
Speaker 1: like they made sure it's just them, like I know,
Speaker 1: and like yo, I probably myself on being a realist,
Speaker 1: like seeing things how they are and not how you
Speaker 1: want them to be. I know, I'm not the biggest
Speaker 1: artist in Atlanta. I know, y'all sitting down with the
Speaker 1: litt motherfucker's from the South, and y'all really it like
Speaker 1: y'all the voice of this whole ship. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta press for that, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I rerouted flights and all that because I'm coming here,
Speaker 1: Like I never yeah, I I never, like I'm going
Speaker 1: to pass up an opportunity. But being a realist tool
Speaker 1: to all the artists, like just to touch on that
Speaker 1: seeing things how they are, not how you want them
Speaker 1: to be. That should have put you out of like
Speaker 1: it hurts to be painful because you have to look
Speaker 1: at yourself in the mirror and go, damn, I'm not
Speaker 1: the biggest artist in the world, like I feel like
Speaker 1: I am. You know what I means it hurts. But
Speaker 1: once you take that initial hurt, you're able to say,
Speaker 1: all right, well this is where I'm starting from. So
Speaker 1: I lead you starting from a place of reality and
Speaker 1: not delusion, where so much you got nine percent of
Speaker 1: motherfucker's walking out here delusional because they're scared to get
Speaker 1: hurt about where they run in life. So I'm the
Speaker 1: hottest in my stay, not what you wanted to be.
Speaker 1: That's really thinks how they are, not how you want
Speaker 1: them to be. And I don't told people that. I've
Speaker 1: had people in my camp try to gas me and
Speaker 1: say you're you're hotter than so and so, and I go, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not. Statistically and realistically, we can feel like that,
Speaker 1: but that's something to prove. Yes, and so so many
Speaker 1: motherfucker's let somebody tell them you're you're hotter than so
Speaker 1: and so, and they dad as walk out the door
Speaker 1: and feel like I'm hotter than you're not. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be great. Yeah, if you think like that, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be great. Yeah, be a realist, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, people just say I run my city, Oh,
Speaker 1: I run my seat. That's like a casual thing. You
Speaker 1: meet somebody from out of town. We can meet somebody
Speaker 1: right now from Arkansas wherever. They're just gonna casually. Now,
Speaker 1: I run my city, that's me. I could tell you.
Speaker 1: I ain't even gonna tell you I'll run my city,
Speaker 1: but I could tell you if y'all come down there,
Speaker 1: I could put five six SUVs on you. You could
Speaker 1: go anywhere you want, you know what I'm saying comfortably,
Speaker 1: Like when they're gonna roll out the red carpet every
Speaker 1: single place. Oh yeah, I ain't even gonna say I
Speaker 1: run my ship, but I'm up. But yeah, yeah, on god,
Speaker 1: what would it take for you to sound a white
Speaker 1: wrapper right now? The other now, he had to beat
Speaker 1: question ever your mind? You got me with that one, yo.
Speaker 1: That's like a that's like a weird question right there, Like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, he has to be just like me for real.
Speaker 1: I had to like go verify you for real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to be just like me. You have to
Speaker 1: have that up about nice. And that's like, he's somebody
Speaker 1: I know who could just go right now and I
Speaker 1: could get a bag and invested into my novel artists,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But yeah, that's I don't
Speaker 1: know like there's only one other like white kid I
Speaker 1: know who's just like me. That's my brother, asked Kate.
Speaker 1: Like he grew up in my same neighborhood. He was
Speaker 1: the first um, first first dude in UH and conquered
Speaker 1: prison with a black cellman, white and black cellmate. Like
Speaker 1: the guards don't let you do that. They had to say, no,
Speaker 1: this is what it is, like we rocked. So he
Speaker 1: respected by the by the black people, the white people,
Speaker 1: all that, you know what I mean. So it's like different,
Speaker 1: like I don't really be meeting people that's just like me.
Speaker 1: But I guess if you're nice, I'll put you on that.
Speaker 1: You sucked me up with that question because it's like
Speaker 1: the reason why it QUI because it's like you had
Speaker 1: the heir what you had for kiss to sign you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, so what is it
Speaker 1: how y'all feel about like white wrappers and the climbate
Speaker 1: that I don't know listen and but we we fun
Speaker 1: like I fought with your energy, but we but we
Speaker 1: all we all had this conversation like without to be honest,
Speaker 1: I've never listened to a full Imminem album. I don't
Speaker 1: know why it's not I could play you ship though
Speaker 1: that would change your mind on ship. I feel like
Speaker 1: I got I gotta playlist at them that I can
Speaker 1: play to anybody and change. But it's not but as
Speaker 1: far as a full project because just like for me,
Speaker 1: for instance, because I didn't really weigh in when they
Speaker 1: talked about this or whatever. But I'm an Eminem fan,
Speaker 1: but I'm an Eminem fan to certain songs at certain times. Singles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I can't really like I say, call out a
Speaker 1: whole project that I've listened to from start to finish
Speaker 1: or you know what I'm saying, No ship like that,
Speaker 1: but his word play and his imagination and we give
Speaker 1: everything is official. But I think the move is what
Speaker 1: made me a fan for sure. That's not me, that
Speaker 1: could I mean I feel like that could happen with
Speaker 1: different artists, Like I was a like like I'm a
Speaker 1: die hard like Nipsey fan, right, like for real, like
Speaker 1: I got tweets like in two thousand thirteen, Nipsey Hustle
Speaker 1: my favorite rapper of all time, like documented, right, I
Speaker 1: told him this, that's crazy. I gotta line. I said,
Speaker 1: I met Nipsey and Atlanta told him he the greatest.
Speaker 1: I call that Dick Roding, I call you insecure. You
Speaker 1: gotta live through more mostly also women to you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, but I met Nipsey and I
Speaker 1: told him that, and I was always on that, but
Speaker 1: I saw like once he passed, like a lot of
Speaker 1: people all of a sudden was big fans of his,
Speaker 1: but a lot of them were saying, well, I like
Speaker 1: the interviews and ship. So I feel like that's the
Speaker 1: thing with an artist. How you say you funk with
Speaker 1: m Off. I think that's all around artistry, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, used to your personality, to your songs
Speaker 1: and ship like that, because I feel like if you're
Speaker 1: if you're an artist, your main goal should be to
Speaker 1: get people to become in tune with you as a person.
Speaker 1: Because if they do that, you can fucking go sell
Speaker 1: chicken fries at Burger King. They're gonna step with you
Speaker 1: and follow you and sell out the chicken fries because
Speaker 1: they fun with you as a person even though they
Speaker 1: were introduced to you through your music. You got a brand.
Speaker 1: So if you got a brand, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: like you got real fans, you know, yeah, yeah, protect
Speaker 1: the brand absolutely, man, We're with you yeah, we need,
Speaker 1: we need, we need to go up, go up your
Speaker 1: way and do a live. We're trying to do lives
Speaker 1: with different cities. Of course, we gotta do that. You know.
Speaker 1: That's all set up. Like I said, right car, it
Speaker 1: rolled out even when y'all come to New York. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's my second city. So sure
Speaker 1: what y'all tapped in with the right ones out there.
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