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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we are joined by the fourth time

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Speaker 1: NBA Champ, eight time All Defensive Team, two times Gold medalist,

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Speaker 1: one of the best podcasters in the game, Draymond Green,

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Speaker 1: is joining us on Point Game. But first, John Man,

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Speaker 1: how you feeling.

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Speaker 2: I'm great, bro, Great, great to have a guy like

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Speaker 2: Dremond on. I mean a lot of people don't respect

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Speaker 2: him and understand what he brings to the game, what

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Speaker 2: he does for his team, but it goes a long way.

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Speaker 2: So it's great to have a brush line that that

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Speaker 2: want to join our podcast and also has his own podcast,

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Speaker 2: so it means a lot to us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he drops some incredible stories and insights, including a

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Speaker 1: little bit of preview about what we're seeing here in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I wanted to talk about this past

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Speaker 1: weekend because yesterday Sunday we had two games and I'm

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Speaker 1: dying to hear what you thought your reaction. So let's

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Speaker 1: start with it with the Big one Nuggets Timberwolves Game seven,

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Speaker 1: the reigning champs. You know everyone, I think I feel

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Speaker 1: like thought, we're gonna see the Nuggets. They just won

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Speaker 1: three in a row. It's gonna it's gonna be them again.

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Speaker 1: So give me a reaction to watching that game seven yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Well for me, that's why I always say, like a

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Speaker 2: twenty point leading vide don't mean shit. Yeah you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it was up thirty eight to

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Speaker 2: fifty eight with like ten men's and forty seconds and

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Speaker 2: fifty seconds ago in the third quarter. I mean, but Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: like a young team and a lot of people, certainly

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Speaker 2: one throughout the playoffs, but throughout just the season, they

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Speaker 2: get rattled. I mean, they don't have nobody to calm

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Speaker 2: them down. And I think just they composure with like

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Speaker 2: Mike Conley being their leader and man being who he

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Speaker 2: was not having a great game. It wasn't having a

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Speaker 2: great game, I mean, but stuck with it, kept fighting.

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Speaker 2: And I told people before, like if you're picking up

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Speaker 2: somebody full court throughout a whole seven game, serious and

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Speaker 2: that later on your legs get tired, like you start

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Speaker 2: having mistakes. And I think if I was Denver, I

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Speaker 2: would have let Aaron go and bring the ball up

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Speaker 2: a little bit more. I mean, so Jamal Murray don't

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Speaker 2: get so fatigued and tired because a man picking up

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, so he had it going in

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Speaker 2: the first abe, I think he got a little bit

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Speaker 2: there played the whole second half, but Minnesota kept chipping away,

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Speaker 2: chipping the chipping away, chipping away, and they close it out.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk a little bit about you said Ant

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Speaker 1: didn't have a great game, and so I still feel

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Speaker 1: like he added to this game, was a big part

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Speaker 1: of it. Like he wasn't hitting his shots, he couldn't

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Speaker 1: get it going offensively. But let's talk about what he

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Speaker 1: did right, you know, and what his teammates did right

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Speaker 2: What I always tell people before, it's like being a

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Speaker 2: point guard that can score, or just been a two

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Speaker 2: guard that's a score. How can you impact the game

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Speaker 2: in other ways when your SHOT's not falling Defensively, still

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Speaker 2: being aggressive, making the right reads, getting a lot of sists,

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Speaker 2: rebound the ball, and man did that for twenty four

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Speaker 2: but he hit big timely shots. You feel me, Like

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Speaker 2: the end of the third quarter he hit a step back three.

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Speaker 2: after he was on the bench, he said, coach is

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Speaker 2: tapping him on the chase. I'm gonna get in my bag.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get in my bag, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So he still had that mindset like I don't care

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Speaker 2: in so many ways. So his defense is energy. All

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Speaker 2: that kept it going. And then they bench, They bench

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Speaker 2: jumping up and down. And you need that because when

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Speaker 2: So it's fifteen guys in the coaching staff and then

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Speaker 2: And Rudy good Barry that turned around. I said, all, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, you're not winning. But just to

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Speaker 2: got heart not to give up, like most teams in

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Speaker 1: Well let's talk about the Nuggets too. I can't help

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Speaker 1: but wonder if you have a Bruce Brown or a

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Speaker 1: they'll make it up, They're gonna have their young guys

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Speaker 1: developed them over this year. Do you think having those

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Like I said before, I think even though.

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Speaker 2: The tim Woods bench didn't score a lot of points,

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Speaker 2: they got like twenty to twenty four minutes from Alexander

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, When your guys need a break,

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Speaker 2: those are big minutes. And you don't got to score.

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Speaker 2: How can impact the game? I mean just making stops,

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Speaker 2: doing extra stuff. Like I think the most minutes I

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Speaker 2: ten or eleven, you know, I mean, that's a big difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Jamal Murray, I think, what right?

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Speaker 2: I think Reggie Jackson only played like five minutes, so

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Speaker 2: he really didn't get a break. So you go back

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Speaker 2: to what I'm say if I'm picking him up for

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Speaker 2: the pressure that Tim Woods kept on him throughout the

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Speaker 3: We know Yoki, Yeah, but you can.

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Speaker 2: Tell like he played them in the whole second half

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Speaker 1: Can we show some love to Kat too? Like I

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Speaker 1: He hit some big shots, came up defensively, like what

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Speaker 1: was Kat doing that?

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Speaker 3: Hell, well just not even just cat.

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Speaker 2: Get shout out the cat, but sure, but Jadie mcdanie's too, right,

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Speaker 2: Like he made big shots, like on that run, he

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Speaker 2: three rounds like Kevin Kat had big moments and you

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Speaker 2: got to enjoy that. But like I always say, it's

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Speaker 2: role players have to play well on the road in

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Speaker 2: role players do today yesterday? Made big shots and play well,

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Speaker 2: they win the game. The same thing with t Wolves.

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Speaker 2: Early on their role players were just okay, but they

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Speaker 2: made some shots, but he didn't get it going for

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Speaker 2: real like we used to have been having them there

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Speaker 3: He didn't have that.

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Speaker 2: But his guy stepped up when he needed them. And

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Speaker 2: then when it came to be that guy and to

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Speaker 2: man was there for that. So you gotta give a

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Speaker 2: shout out just not the Cat and Jade mcday, but

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Speaker 2: to their whole team yeah.

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Speaker 1: So well, we'll talk a little bit a bit about

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Speaker 1: it later about this MAVs and Timberwolves matchup, like two

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say youngest teams, but two teams

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Speaker 1: we didn't think we're gonna be there. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the Kyrie and Luca backcourt versus you know, and older

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Speaker 1: MAVs are a favorite of years in these playoffs and

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Speaker 1: if they got far, so what do you think now

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Speaker 1: after watching that Game seven, how the timberold stepped up.

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Speaker 1: How do you think they match up against the MAVs?

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Speaker 3: They match up will I mean, it's a great matchup.

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Speaker 2: But like Colley's I always say he's one of the

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Speaker 2: most underrated point guards of all time to me because

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Speaker 2: he just does his job, run his team, make big shots,

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Speaker 2: doesn't turn the ball over. I loved him when he

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Speaker 3: But now it's Jaden Mdane's and man versus Kyrie and Luca.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Because those two are two Dogs and Tim Wolves, and

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Speaker 2: the regular season, but they didn't have j Washington, didn't

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely trying to go to a game, got to

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Speaker 2: see what's going on. Yeah, I don't know, it's like

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Speaker 2: this because I love the way Man is right now. Bro,

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Speaker 2: Like Man is a dog, He's on his level. He's

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Speaker 2: he feels like it's his time, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Like he's not waiting, he feels like it's his time.

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Speaker 2: But it's amazing to see. You see Luke and Kyrie

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Speaker 2: from last year when they did they trade make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: yeah to now then the West Combs Finals, and you

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Speaker 2: got to give a shout out to Derrick Jones.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like he's locking up, he's taking all the

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Speaker 2: tough coverages. Yeah, and he's making big shots and scoring

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Speaker 2: the ball over the end like that nobody expected. So

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Speaker 2: shout out to Derick Jones, man, Like, I feel like

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a citing serious because he's gonna challenge

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Speaker 2: it man, you know what I mean? And man gonna

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Speaker 2: challenge him. So I'm ready to see that series.

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Speaker 1: How much I've seen writers talking about the naivete or

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Speaker 1: like almost the delusion, you know, and it's about he's

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Speaker 1: twenty two, He's about to play some guys, you know

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Speaker 1: Kyrie who he probably watched as a kid in and idolized.

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Speaker 1: But he's just like, I don't care almost how much

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Speaker 1: do you think that helps him? Is that like a

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Speaker 1: superpower of his that he doesn't care who's about to play?

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Speaker 3: Bro? Yes, look at it? Who is his favorite player?

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How do he go with Kevin Durant and the first round?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like he said, it's like it's cool, bro, Like you

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Speaker 2: can idolize whoever. You can monitor a game after somebody

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Speaker 2: and think a certain person that go. But when it's

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Speaker 1: That's dope. I saw people yelling, big balloon. It's just cool, my.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Point Game with John Wall and CJ

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green on Point Game. What up, Draymond?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Fellas? How y'all doing?

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Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all having me appreciate it. Hey, you forgot me.

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Speaker 2: He had two time gold meda Olympics and one Defensive

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Speaker 1: I only got so much.

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Speaker 2: You got to do that, and and broadcasting appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: It's no fun sitting over here on the sideline and.

434
00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,040
Speaker 2: Watching, yeah, for sure, Like basically speaking on that, like

435
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,480
Speaker 2: what do you think you and your warriors got to

436
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 2: do to get back to that deep playoff run?

437
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:47,320
Speaker 3: You know me?

438
00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 2: Because when you're so used to seeing y'all in the

439
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,879
Speaker 2: playoffs and you see y'all out early, it's like we

440
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,480
Speaker 2: don't expect it at all, you know, I mean, because

441
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,160
Speaker 2: I know that's what you're used to. And like you said,

442
00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,679
Speaker 2: we're definitely embracing the time to be around your family

443
00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,800
Speaker 2: and go to turin events you missed. But I know

444
00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 2: you who the dog you are. You want to be

445
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. You want to be competing for a

446
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 2: championship one percent.

447
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:05,560
Speaker 4: Jay Waller.

448
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 5: Honestly, I think it's just my way in my mind

449
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 5: of trying to tell myself, I'm okay, you know, trying

450
00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,400
Speaker 5: to like trying to fool myself into believing like, yo,

451
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 5: I'm good, Like it's cool. But the reality is, I think, uh,

452
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,120
Speaker 5: you know, like when I really take a step back

453
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 5: and look at it, like from an honest advantage point,

454
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,239
Speaker 5: like I gotta play, like I gotta be out there.

455
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 5: I played fifty five games this year, which is not

456
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 5: nearly enough to help this team be successful. I played

457
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,640
Speaker 5: fifty five games. We won forty forty six games this year. Yeah,

458
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 5: we're forty six and thirty six, you know, So if

459
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 5: I don't miss.

460
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 4: Twenty seven games, Uh yeah, I think that's the man.

461
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 5: If I don't miss twenty seven games, say we win

462
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 5: half of those games, you know, half of the twenty

463
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 5: seven I missed, all of a sudden, we're a fifty

464
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 5: plus win team, you know, and it's a totally different

465
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,919
Speaker 5: ball game. And so I think for me, it's just

466
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 5: understanding the stakes, understanding you know, where where my growth

467
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 5: need to be in and being available for my team

468
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 5: so that I know we're not dropping games that we're

469
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 5: supposed to win. When I look at this season, we

470
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 5: probably lost ten games literally that we easily should have won,

471
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 5: you know, and that is a direct impact on a

472
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 5: direct inflection of me missing games, us not building the

473
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 5: continuity that we need to build in order to win

474
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 5: at the highest level. And I got to take that

475
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 5: on the chain, you know, when you when everybody want

476
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 5: to celebrate when the glory is there, everybody want it's me,

477
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 5: it's me, But when it don't go so well, we

478
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 5: all want to point the finger the other way, you know.

479
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 5: For me, I take that on the chain. I fucked

480
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 5: this season off and I have to be better. And

481
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 5: I think, you know, with me being better, I think

482
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 5: you know, we're capable of still winning. Do we need

483
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 5: to shore some things up. Of course, every team in

484
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 5: the NBA, I don't care who the team is. If

485
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 5: a team win a championship this year, you have to

486
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 5: get better. Can't fool ourselves. We didn't make the playoffs,

487
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,959
Speaker 5: so we got a lot of growing to do. And

488
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 5: I think, you know, with a few tweaks here and there,

489
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 5: I think this team can make another run at it.

490
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 5: Because when I look at these teams that's in the

491
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 5: playoffs now, I don't see any of them that can't

492
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 5: be beat. And so, you know, if we could put

493
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 5: it back together, which I have no doubt that we will.

494
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 3: I think we could be right back there. Yeah, I

495
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: think right on the nose.

496
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 2: Just because you said, like you're the leader, you know

497
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: what I mean, you the voice of that team, the

498
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: dog he brings to that team. You just get them.

499
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: A lot of players that don't have that if the

500
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 2: other if that they wish they had. And you could

501
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 2: tell when you're not there, it's a big difference. And

502
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 2: you know you probably heard your whole crib people say,

503
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 2: well Dremond not did goodies not that good. It doesn't matter.

504
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: I impact the game in so many ways. I don't

505
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 2: have to score. I don't have to get thirty for

506
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 2: my team. And when I do the little things, and

507
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 2: you could tell you can feel the impact when you

508
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,719
Speaker 2: wasn't there a lot of games.

509
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and honestly, if when I'm sitting at home watching

510
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 5: like I could feel it. You know, I'm not an idiot,

511
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 5: Like I'm not crazy, so you know, to sit there

512
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 5: and watch it like that shit burned me up, man like,

513
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 5: because I know, you know, I see certain things and

514
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, man like, I should have been right there,

515
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 5: like and I know I would have been there to

516
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 5: cut that off, like, oh man, this guy just went

517
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 5: for forty. Although that's not my match up, per se,

518
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 5: that wouldn't have been my match up. I could have

519
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 5: affected our defense in a way to where that guy

520
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 5: didn't get forty, to where he didn't feel as comfortable

521
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 5: because I could have came and helped. I could have

522
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 5: done this to kind of throw off their you know,

523
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 5: throw off their momentum. So, man, when I'm sitting at

524
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 5: home watching it, like I know, it's not the same team,

525
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 5: and by the way, like.

526
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 4: It shouldn't be.

527
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 5: You know, if we miss I think, you know, especially

528
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 5: for what I do on both ends of the floor,

529
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 5: obviously for what I do on the defensive end of

530
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 5: the floor, but also being a playmaker on the floor

531
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 5: for our offense. Like I can sit there and watch

532
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 5: it and I know, you know, if STEP's not out there,

533
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 5: if play's not out there, it's a different team, you know,

534
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 5: and it changes the dynamic of the team completely. And

535
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 5: so now, man, it's just really having that sense of accountability,

536
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 5: knowing accepting where I fell short of the glory.

537
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 4: And making sure I do the things I have to

538
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 4: do to correct that.

539
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: For sure, Yeah, dream on it. It is a big

540
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: what if and I love what you said about if

541
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: you had played in the games that you miss you

542
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: would have won at least half of those, right, And

543
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: so just getting you guys in the postseason, I feel

544
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: like it resets, like your record doesn't matter. You guys

545
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: are the you know, dynastic Warriors. So like, how and

546
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: we're seeing these young teams in the playoffs, like you

547
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: guys have a different mentality in playoffs, Like there's a

548
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 1: playoff Lebron, Like I think there's a playoff Warrior, So like,

549
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: how how far do you think you guys could have

550
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: gone if you just made that plass Because it really

551
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: all it was is you had one bad game to

552
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: play in for sure.

553
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 5: You know what, when I sit back and that's well

554
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 5: number one, that's one of the reasons you want to

555
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 5: try to avoid the play in. Like we've been in

556
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 5: the player now a couple of times. We fell misserable

557
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 5: each time, and you know, and just understanding like that

558
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 5: college type vibe where listen, you got one game and

559
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 5: you need everything to go right in that game because

560
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 5: the best team isn't always going to win that one game,

561
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,959
Speaker 5: which is what makes the NBA playoffs so special.

562
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 4: It's like usually over the course of a.

563
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 5: Seven game series, more often than not, the better team

564
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 5: is going to win the series. Over the course of

565
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 5: a seven game series. And when you get into the

566
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 5: play in situation, if you're nine to ten and you

567
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 5: got one game and need to win to get a

568
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 5: second one. If you're the seven eight, you got two games,

569
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 5: but it's just it's no guaranteed you're gonna shoot well, Like,

570
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 5: it's too many variables going into it that at this

571
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 5: level we're no longer accustomed to. You know, you're not

572
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 5: accustomed to the one and dumb mentality anymore. So I

573
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 5: think for us, number one is trying to avoid that

574
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 5: playing like it's too dangerous, you know, we haven't been

575
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 5: successful in it.

576
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 4: But then also.

577
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 5: Understanding for us that if we get in the playoffs,

578
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 5: there's anyone that wants to face us.

579
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: Like if you are.

580
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 5: One seed a two seed, you do all of this

581
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 5: work all year and then you gotta face us in

582
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 5: the first round. Nobody want to fucking do that. You know,

583
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 5: it was like Miami this year, Like Boston does all

584
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 5: this work all year and then you face Miami heat

585
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 5: in the first round. Now, granted, Jimmy Butler was hurt

586
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 5: kind of changes the series a ton, but psychologically what

587
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 5: that can do to you. And so I know that

588
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 5: for us to get in, just get in, give ourselves

589
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 5: a chance. Like when we won the championship in twenty

590
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 5: twenty two, I remember telling my boys right before the

591
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 5: playoffs started, like, y'all, I'll see all that F one

592
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 5: that was the first year at F one Miami. And

593
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, I'll see all that F one because

594
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 5: we're not winning, Like I can't see us making the past.

595
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 4: The first round like I and.

596
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 5: And we want a championship, you know, And that's just

597
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 5: like giving ourselves a chance to actually do it and

598
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 5: look at the outcome. And so I think for us,

599
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 5: the mindset just have to be to get there and

600
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 5: not get there through the play and make sure we

601
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 5: have a good enough season where we're in that top six.

602
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 5: And then once you in the top six, injuries happen,

603
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 5: anything happening from there, it's just the roll of the

604
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 5: shake of the dice tracks.

605
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: So you, out of all people, know what it takes

606
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: to win the finals and be a champion. What team

607
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: you watch so far in the playoff you think got

608
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: the opportunity and got the keys to win the outside

609
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: of the Nuggets, because you know they won it last year.

610
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 2: If you see any other team other than the Demos,

611
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: the one team you really see that got what it is,

612
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: it takes man.

613
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 5: Honestly, the team that I love right now is Dallas.

614
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 5: And the reason I love Dallas is they have every

615
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 5: piece that you need in order to win win the championship.

616
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 5: They got wing defenders, they got big men and a

617
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 5: couple of big men that they can rotate. Dwight Potle

618
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 5: doesn't even play. Dwight Potle is a very service super

619
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 5: big man in the NBA does not see the court,

620
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 5: you know. When so when you look at a the

621
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 5: depth that they have, you know, you got Josh Green

622
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 5: coming off the bench that can mix it up. Tim

623
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 5: Hardaway off the bench that hasn't had necessarily the shooting

624
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: year that we've brought a custom to him happening in

625
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 5: his career. But you know, at any moment he can

626
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 5: get hot. A couple of games ago, Game two, he

627
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 5: got hot. He changed the game in the second half,

628
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 5: you know. So I just think that they are a

629
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 5: team that has the pieces around the guys to make

630
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 5: it all work. You know, when you look at Luca.

631
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 5: When you look at Kyrie and what they bring to

632
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: the game, like those are two of the most unguardable

633
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 5: guys in our league. You know, on any given night

634
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 5: they both can go for forty. That is the makeup

635
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 5: of a championship team because it's can you win on

636
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 5: those nights when your stars can't get it gone? Can

637
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 5: your defense uphold you enough just to give you a

638
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 5: chance to win? And their defense has done that with

639
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 5: the additions of Big Daniel Gafford, with the addition of PJ. Washington,

640
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 5: Derrick Jones Junior being there this year has changed their

641
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 5: defensive mentality. And so you know, those guys and so man,

642
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 5: I just think they got the pieces to do it now.

643
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 5: I do think it's going to fall on Luca's mindset,

644
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 5: Like what when I see Luca at times this year,

645
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 5: I'm saying, I say, damn, Luca, RAI to win a championship.

646
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 5: He defended, he competed, But are you going to do

647
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 5: that when it don't go well? You know, when it's

648
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 5: not going great, when the team is making a run,

649
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 5: are you still going to compete that same way?

650
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 4: You know?

651
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 5: And I think that's the next step for Luca and

652
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 5: I know he's more than capable of that because he's able.

653
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 4: To do that in spurts. So now how much longer

654
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 4: can you put that together?

655
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 5: And then also I think the leadership of Kyrie, man, Like,

656
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 5: nobody want to get that man this credit because all

657
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 5: the things that he'd been through, the leadership of Kyrie

658
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 5: has been stellar.

659
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: Man.

660
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: And when you.

661
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 5: Watch the growth of a young guy like Kyrie who

662
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 5: thought he was a leader, fell miserably as a leader,

663
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: then come out and say I failed. I know why,

664
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 5: and you see him make the corrections, like you can

665
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 5: only respect that. So I think that team is poised

666
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 5: for a run. They got it right there in front

667
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 5: of him.

668
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: Yep.

669
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking on Kyrie because I feel like, you know,

670
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: so many people were him like he's done, he's washed.

671
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: Like even I'm a Lakers famby boy, like we don't

672
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: need Kyrie, the Kyrie of Old's Gune and he's obviously

673
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: come back here. What do you attribute Kyrie? You know,

674
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: feeling like he's fitting in. He's probably gonna be in

675
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Dallas for a minute now, Like, what do you attribute that?

676
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 4: That too?

677
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 5: Number one, the growth of Kyrie. You know, everybody wants

678
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 5: to take credit for a guy when they do well.

679
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 5: No one wants to take the blame for a guy

680
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 5: when they're failing. And so number one, the growth of Kyrie,

681
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: the structure of his life. You know, when you take

682
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 5: a step back and you look at Kyrie's life. And

683
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 5: by the way, we don't know his life. I'm not

684
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 5: going to sit here and try to act like through

685
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: a TV screen we know his life. But you get

686
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 5: a good sense of what someone's life is just by

687
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 5: watching them and how they operate this entire thing. And

688
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 5: number one, the structure of his life. Always with his wife,

689
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 5: always with his kids, focused on the task at hand,

690
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 5: doing everything that he can do with this team, Like

691
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 5: you know, at times, I think, and when you're a

692
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 5: great player, is gonna happen. I think at times sometimes

693
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 5: Luca tend to overdribble or want to overdo.

694
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 4: It at times.

695
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 5: Now, I've never been Luka Donci's I've never had that

696
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 5: responsibility as a as an NBA player, so I can

697
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 5: imagine it has to be some of that, right, Like,

698
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 5: in order to be one of those guys, you gotta

699
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 5: press the issue a little bit.

700
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 4: So I get it.

701
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 5: But when you have a guy like Kyrie, Irvis sometimes

702
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: you don't have to press the issue. You can just

703
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 5: get off of it. And a lot of times when

704
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 5: you see stuff like that, gods dropped their heads, god

705
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 5: slump their shoulders walking back, they're bickering each other.

706
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: You never, ever, ever, no matter.

707
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 5: The situation, see that from Kyrie. Ever, whether it's toward

708
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 5: Luka Doncis, whether it's tour Tim Hardaway, whether Derek Jones,

709
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 5: Julian don't make the extra swing swing to Kyrie. You

710
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 5: never see Kyrie drop his shoulders or anything. They miss

711
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 5: the shot, they could turn the ball over. He's like, Yo,

712
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 5: come on, let's go, Let's get back. Like his demeanor

713
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 5: and attitude is what I think is really carrying his team.

714
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: And man, I'm so thankful to see his growth because

715
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 5: I know how it is when everybody's trying to tear

716
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 5: you down, like j Wall. You know how that feel

717
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 5: when everybody trying to tear you down, when you're in

718
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 5: a position of you know, the position that we're in

719
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: in the NBA and specific all starting like these people

720
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 5: build you up just to tear you down. And watched

721
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: everybody trying to tear that man down in the way

722
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 5: he shook back the way he's continued to grow.

723
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a lot of teams.

724
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: Lakers included a lot of teams saying, ah, man, we

725
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: don't need Kyrie no more. And you see what he's

726
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: going to Dallas and doing. Then, Also credit to Nico Harrison.

727
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 5: I think it's very important that they gave Kyrie a

728
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: safe space to beat Kyrie. They didn't ask Kyrie. You know,

729
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 5: I had Mark Cuban on my show a couple of

730
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 5: months ago. They didn't ask Kyrie to come in there

731
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 5: and be somebody different than who Kyrie is.

732
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: And they took the time.

733
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 5: Nico obviously been building that relationship for a long time

734
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 5: through Nike, but they've taken the time to get to

735
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: know the man. And when you take the time to

736
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 5: get to know the man, you're seeing the product of

737
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 5: that on the court. And I think it's some beautiful thing.

738
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can tell you he said. He said, I

739
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: feel like I'm at home. You feel like he had peace.

740
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: He don't have to worry about trying to fake it

741
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: to be somebody he's not. And that's the biggest kid,

742
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: He's going to be yourself. And also he say he's learned,

743
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: He's learned so much from being lebron in the past

744
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: and going to the finals and winning and losing, then

745
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: going to Boston and things don't go the way he wanted.

746
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: Like you said, a lot of people say, oh, he

747
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: don't have it no more. Do you know who Kyrie

748
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: Irvy is? Do you know how special he is? But

749
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: like you said, his leadership and the way he's defended

750
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: surprised me more than anything because all my battles I

751
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: had with him in Cleveland and Boston, I'm like, I

752
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: never seen him defending this level. Like you said, you

753
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: don't put his head down. He's clapping when a mistake happened.

754
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: He's not worried about that. He's like the next play,

755
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: let's move on, Let's move on. So he's definitely learned

756
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: over the years.

757
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I think what he's doing on the defensive end

758
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 5: is is uh. It's also set in the tone because

759
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 5: you see him trying to check whoever it is that

760
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 5: he needs to check. He pressuring, He pressuring J dubb

761
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 5: and how court J douv six eight, fast, big body,

762
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 5: Kyrie preshing this man at half court. That sets the

763
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 5: tone for the team. Then guess what you see him pressure?

764
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 5: Then J dob get to switch on Luca Lucas sit

765
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: down for us a tough shot like that. Stuff is contagious, man,

766
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 5: And I respect the way ky is competing. It ain't

767
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 5: no matter who he's on, he's competing. He's in front

768
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 5: of that guy. He's sitting down. Every now and then

769
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 5: guy hit him with the shoulder or something because they're

770
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 5: a little bigger. And you see the next play he

771
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 5: right there sitting down again.

772
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: Man. So man, I give a lot of credit to Kyrie.

773
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 5: Man, Like I said, we all you know, everybody want

774
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 5: to throw stones when they get the opportunity to throw

775
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 5: the stones. But the love don't be like that. Man, shit,

776
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 5: the love gonna be like that from this way because

777
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 5: I respect and love to see what he's doing. Man,

778
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 5: it's incredible to watch for sure.

779
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: So you definitely embrace this podcast platform. What do you

780
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: see next to yourself in his space? You know a

781
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: lot of players sometime we wait till he done plan

782
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: to do it? You said, fuck it, I'm doing a

783
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: wind plan and a lot of people don't have the

784
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: courage in it nots to do that. They might be

785
00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 2: a little scared.

786
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: Well, you know what number one I think for me,

787
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 5: when I first started. It was my first year was

788
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 5: the year that we won the championship, and all year

789
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 5: people like, man, why you doing a podcast? Like you're

790
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 5: playing you're playing these games, then you more focused on

791
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 5: your podcast. You shouldn't be doing that, while they let

792
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 5: them do the podcast, stay off the microphone, nobody want

793
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 5: to hear you, blah blah blah. And then we go

794
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: win the championship and now all of a sudden, it's

795
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 5: cool everybody's doing and it's no big deal. And so honestly,

796
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: I like to look at it like I broke a barrier.

797
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 5: Not that I broke a barrier in being the first

798
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 5: to do a podcast, like the first active athlete or

799
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 5: anything like that to do a podcast, because that's far

800
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 5: from the fucking truth. And I don't want anybody to

801
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 5: think that's what I'm trying to say. But the beating

802
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 5: that I took on a daily basis to actively like

803
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 5: come with two three episodes in a week, actually be

804
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 5: locked in on building my own platform, building my own outlet,

805
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 5: and having to be successful. Like the beating that I

806
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 5: would take on a daily basis for me was fun

807
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 5: to watch. It also made it very fun to win

808
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 5: the championship. And throw it in everybody's face. Oh and

809
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 5: by the way, that same podcast that you said, I

810
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: can do while everybody's in their partying in TD Garden.

811
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: Because that's why our celebration was at till six o'clock

812
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: in the morning. While everybody's in their party until three am.

813
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 5: I'm working on podcasts shit, and then I go join

814
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 5: the party. But that to me, why because it's a sacrifice,

815
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 5: Like I'm trying to build something special. I'm trying to

816
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 5: build something that when I'm done, as I move forward,

817
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 5: that I built something that can sustain past me playing basketball.

818
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 5: And so when I look at the podcast space, ay,

819
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 5: I love the growth of it.

820
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 4: I love how.

821
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 5: Athletes has taken their their own media boy storm. They're

822
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 5: telling their own stories, They're creating their own narratives and

823
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 5: not really creating a narrative from the standpoint of what

824
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 5: we see in the media today, but controlling the narrative

825
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 5: I think would be a better way of saying it,

826
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 5: you know, and controlling our own narratives, not getting giving

827
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: other people the opportunity to control what it is that's

828
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 5: said on my name, Like no, you can go straight

829
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 5: to the source, and men, I want to continue to

830
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: grow this thing, you know, in partnering with the volume

831
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 5: the way that I have continue to you know, my

832
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 5: next goal is to bring other talent in that want

833
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 5: to get into the space and get them opportunities to

834
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 5: build their own platforms as well. And so just want

835
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 5: to continue to do that help on that side, continue

836
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: to see the space grow, and ultimately I think we're

837
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 5: in the beginning phases of it.

838
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 4: Man, Like I think, you know, this is just the

839
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 4: tip of the iceberg.

840
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 5: And with athletes and their own podcasts and you know,

841
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: how the podcast space is working, and I think that

842
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 5: will continue to grow when you look at all the

843
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 5: platforms and the smart people that we have building these

844
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 5: platforms and these outlets for us to take advantage of.

845
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Draymond's staying on your story, man, I think you

846
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: know someone that's on the internet and interesting conversation. They

847
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: were like if an alien landing on the planet, and

848
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: they asked what Draymond Green Green's game was, Like how

849
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: would you describe it? And people said, you are the

850
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: goat of intangibles, and so I wanted to know because

851
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: every kid, I feel like, who's trying to get better

852
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: at basketballs out there working on their handles, working on

853
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: the plays are going to be you know, cut for highlights.

854
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: So I wanted to know how did you work on

855
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: your game and how did you was there like a

856
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: moment when you were younger and you realize, Man, I

857
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: got to work on every aspect to get to the next.

858
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 5: Level, you know what. I think, it's just kind of

859
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 5: the evolution of time, you know, at the evolution of

860
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 5: my game, because you know, I always me and Travis

861
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 5: we always travels has trained me every year since I've

862
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 5: been in the NBA. So we've been at it for

863
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 5: twelve years. And one of my closest friends og at

864
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 5: Michigan State, and we've been together and we continue to

865
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 5: grow from a business aspect, but we oftentimes sit and

866
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 5: talk about basketball. And I always find it very interesting

867
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 5: when people are like, especially young kids, are like ya,

868
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 5: I'm Draymond Green, and you know in their mind that

869
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 5: means like I don't score, but I do the little

870
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 5: things and I'm gonna make it that way. And don't

871
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 5: get me wrong, and I wholeheartedly believe that you can't

872
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 5: make it doing the little things like you can, but

873
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 5: like I used to score the fuck out the basketball,

874
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 5: like my whole life. I scored the basketball, you know,

875
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 5: Like I didn't really play defense in college. I played.

876
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 5: I was really like great help side defender. But I

877
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: remember making All Defense, Big Ten, All Big Ten Defense

878
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 5: my senior year, and my assistant coach, coach DJ, laughed

879
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 5: in my face, like they put you on this team

880
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 5: because your name, and I'm like nah, like I Jack,

881
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 5: Like well, I'm a great help side defender and like

882
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: my focus was just always a score when I got

883
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 5: to the NBA, and playmate, when I got to the NBA,

884
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 5: that wasn't gonna get me on the floor. Why because

885
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 5: we had Steph Kurr. We had Klay Thompson, we had

886
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: David Lee, we had Corlandry, we had JR. Jack, we

887
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 5: had Richard Jefferson, we have Brandon Rush. Like these are

888
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 5: all guys that have some on some level, put the

889
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 5: whole put the ball in the basket their entire careers.

890
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 5: And now I'm gonna come in the second round pick

891
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 5: behind Harrison Barnes, who's the number seven pick, And I'm

892
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 5: want to come in the second round pick, and they

893
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 5: about to get me the ball. That's not happening. And

894
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 5: so I quickly realized, like yo, My way on the

895
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 5: court for this team is to defend. Make the little

896
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 5: players bring toughness, right, So that's my way on the floor. Cool,

897
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: that's how I got to get on the floor. Well

898
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 5: with that, However, you come into the NBA, what you

899
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 5: come into the NBA doing, you can never stop doing

900
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 5: that thing. You can become a better shooter, you can

901
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 5: become a better play American, you can become a better

902
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 5: ball handler, you can get a better post game. You

903
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 5: can do all of those things and add them to

904
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 5: your game. But what you can never stop doing is

905
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: the thing that got you on the floor, the reason

906
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 5: that somebody put you on the floor. In the NBA,

907
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 5: you can never stop doing. Steph Curry can never stop

908
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: shooting the basketball. Steph can't come in and be like, Yo,

909
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 5: I'm just defending, like fuck shooting the three. I'm just defending.

910
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 5: Like nobody want to see you just defend, bro, We

911
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 5: want to shoot. See you shoot the basketball. That's what

912
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 5: you do. You know, now, guess what you can do

913
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 5: Steph Curry and what you've done. You can get better defensively,

914
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 5: you can become a better two way player. You can

915
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 5: add that to your game. But oh, by by all, means, brother,

916
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 5: you must shoot this basketball like that is what you do,

917
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 5: that's who you are. You will never be a good

918
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 5: enough defender to supplement not shooting the basketball, just like

919
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 5: I'll never be a good enough shooter to not supplement defendant.

920
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 5: And so for me, like I knew that I always

921
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 5: had to defend, all right, So start to build my career.

922
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 5: You know, I'm averaging and my average is going up

923
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 5: each and every year, right, Like, I get to a

924
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 5: point where I'm averaging fifteen the game, and that's trending upward.

925
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 5: And then Kevin Durant comes and every player that I

926
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 5: have in the playbook is no longer my play They

927
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 5: now all go to Kevin Durant.

928
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: And so for me, all right, let me.

929
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 5: Identify this situation now, because this is a different situation,

930
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 5: this is a different team.

931
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 4: What role do I need to play? Right?

932
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 5: What a role that I need to play is I

933
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 5: need to go back to doing all of those little

934
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 5: things I need to make sure I'm getting these guys shots,

935
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 5: both from passing the ball, screen and doing everything that

936
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 5: I can to put these three guys in the best

937
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 5: position that they want to be in where they like

938
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 5: to score the basketball.

939
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 4: That's my role. Let me take that on, all right.

940
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: So then as that becomes a thing, now you're no

941
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 5: longer looked at as you can score the basketball. Right,

942
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 5: so now I'm strictly just looked at as he can

943
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 5: play mate and he can defend. No longer looked at

944
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 5: as oh, we can go to him to get a bucket,

945
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 5: we can run this set and get him in some

946
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 5: action so that he can get That's no longer the

947
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 5: case for me. And so then that kind of becomes

948
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 5: who you are. And so then that's what it became

949
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 5: for me. And I've never cared to go to Steve like, oh, coach,

950
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 5: Like I don't have a single playing the playbook? What

951
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 5: can you do for me? You know, like can you

952
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: add these plays? Like I don't care. I'm gonna go

953
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 5: affect the game in any way that I can affect

954
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 5: the game. So that's Uh. It's always a funny thing

955
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 5: to me when I watch like younger guys or a

956
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 5: parent life. Yeah, my son is the next dry mind.

957
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 5: It's like your son don't score, Like now, brother, you

958
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 5: should teach them how to score. Because in order for

959
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 5: me to become who I become, at some point I

960
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 5: had to fucking score the basketball. Now, yes, I had

961
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 5: to do. I always could do the other things. And

962
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 5: I had coaches and I'm blessed in my life. Coach Dawkins,

963
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: Coach Speedy, coach Bruce Uh, coachize Like I've had coaches

964
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: in my life along the way, my uncle to teach

965
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 5: me the fundamentals of the game and all the little

966
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 5: things that need to do and the things that what

967
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 5: it takes to win.

968
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: And so I was able to make that adjustment. But

969
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 4: I used to score the basketball.

970
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 5: And I think you know that, you know, as everybody

971
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 5: always say, like you don't have to score, Like I'm

972
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: be honest, you gotta be a score the basketball. You

973
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 5: just you gotta be up score.

974
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: So I read a few artists were emphasize and talk

975
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: about understanding the business, where as a business of basketball

976
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: taught you.

977
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 5: Man, you know what Number one, you can't have feelings

978
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 5: in business.

979
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

980
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 5: You know when when you're dealing with this business of basketball, man,

981
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 5: it is for a lot of us, we grow up

982
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 5: just playing it because we love it, and then we

983
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 5: see a means to get out, you know, and it's

984
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: like when you see the means to get out, you're

985
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 5: like Oh, that's my way out of Saginaw, Michigan. Like,

986
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 5: that's my way out of Raleigh, North Carolina. The way

987
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 5: I know Raleigh, North Carolina. Well, people knowing Raleigh, North

988
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 5: Carolina today, isn't the Raleigh that that John Wall grew

989
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 5: up in, right, Like, that's that's my way out of here.

990
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 5: So then you see it as a as a means

991
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 5: to get out. And by the way, where we come from,

992
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 5: it's the only means of getting out. Ain't no other

993
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 5: way out. It's either that go try to be a rapper.

994
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 5: From what we've been taught now, nobody taught us that

995
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 5: the guy who plays in the NBA got a lawyer.

996
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 5: Nobody taught us that the guy in the NBA has

997
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 5: an accountant firm or a family office.

998
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 4: Nobody taught us that.

999
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 5: Nobody taught us until Rich Paul that the guy has

1000
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 5: an agent. And by the way, it can be somebody

1001
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 5: that looked like you. Nobody taught us that. You know

1002
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: what they taught us, Hey man, you gotta go be

1003
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 5: the talent, you gotta go play. You gotta break your

1004
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 5: body down in order to make a better living for yourself.

1005
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 5: You know what we all say. Okay, I'm going to

1006
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 5: do it right, and I'm very thankful to be in

1007
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 5: a position.

1008
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 3: That I'm in.

1009
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 5: But when speaking of the business of basketball, the first

1010
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 5: thing that it taught me was no feelings are allowed

1011
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 5: here like there is. You know, if you're going to

1012
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 5: have some sense of loyalty, have that sense of loyalty

1013
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 5: because that's how you feel because that's what you want

1014
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 5: to have, not because you think someone is going to

1015
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 5: have a sense of loyalty to you.

1016
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 4: That's not the case, right Like, I am loyal.

1017
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 5: Of to the go to say Warriors organization because I

1018
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 5: want to be loyal to the go to say organization

1019
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 5: because I love the organization myself personally, not because I

1020
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 5: think they owe me loyalty back now and the loyalty

1021
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 5: that I've given them.

1022
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 4: They've always shown me.

1023
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 5: That loyalty, and I have no reason to believe that

1024
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 5: they're not going to show me that loyalty.

1025
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: But by no means do they owe me that loyalty.

1026
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 5: And I think a lot of times we as athletes

1027
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 5: tend to feel like they owe me this because I've

1028
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 5: done X. I'm old that and it's a recipe for disaster.

1029
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 5: You're setting yourself up for failure. You're setting yourself up

1030
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 5: for your ego to get crushed in for your feelings

1031
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 5: to get hurt. And so for me, I quickly had

1032
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 5: to learn the number one ruling this thing is there's

1033
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 5: no feelings involved, continue to move forward. The number two

1034
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 5: thing that I learned, and it probably should have been

1035
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 5: number one if I knew better, was that you must

1036
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 5: know the business of basketball. That you must spend your

1037
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 5: time getting to know this thing, because so many of

1038
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 5: us spend time in this league, spend many forul time

1039
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 5: in this league and never get to know the business.

1040
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: And it's baffling to me because it's like, this is

1041
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 5: our business, Like this is the business that we work

1042
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 5: in every single day, and we all depend on someone

1043
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 5: else to know the business for us. But this is

1044
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 5: the business that I'm in every single day.

1045
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1046
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: And then I think the last thing that the business

1047
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 4: of basketball taught me in lameless terms, is.

1048
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: It taught me big business. Like the game of basketball.

1049
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 5: The NBA is business at its highest form. When you

1050
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 5: look at I always talk about in the NBA, everyone

1051
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 5: is operating at an ealy level, like yeah, you see,

1052
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 5: you see us on the basketball court and we're playing

1053
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 5: at an ealy level. But what you don't see is

1054
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 5: Eric Housen, who's our equipment manager, who manages our flights, hotels, travel,

1055
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 5: anything you need from him, all our gear, food, drinks,

1056
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 5: like you name it, anything we need. What you don't

1057
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 5: see is how elite Eric Housing is. What you don't

1058
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 5: see is how elite Rick Celebrini is and and heading

1059
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 5: up our medical staff, and how elite Danny Langford is

1060
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 5: and getting our body like everybody in the NBA is

1061
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 5: operating at an elite level. And that and so for

1062
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 5: me to see that, it's like, oh, this is big business.

1063
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: Man.

1064
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 5: When you see these comport companies operating at an elite level,

1065
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 5: that ain't just because Elon Muskins operating at an early level.

1066
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: That's because everybody beneath Elon Musk is operating at an

1067
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 5: elite level. And I think, you know, just being in

1068
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 5: the business of basketball as long as I've been in it,

1069
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 5: and being in it every day and actually trying to

1070
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 5: submerse myself in it so that I know and understanding

1071
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 5: and know the intricate details and the ins and outs.

1072
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: Man, it's big business.

1073
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 5: And and oftentimes we fall into like looking at it like, oh,

1074
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 5: it's just a game, like you fall into that it's

1075
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 5: just a game if you want to. This is big

1076
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 5: business and these these people are operating as such. And

1077
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 5: when you go in trying to operate like this ain't

1078
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 5: a big deal, setting yourself up for a disaster and

1079
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: you get your feelings and your ego hurd.

1080
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: Fasts Draymon, It's it's incredible. I got fired up listening

1081
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: to that because it's incredible to hear the grasp of

1082
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: you have on the business side of it, and how

1083
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: much you know, when your career is all said and done,

1084
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: how much do you want to maybe even go and

1085
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: be in the front office of an I mean organization

1086
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: and apply what you've learned in the business aspect where

1087
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: you've applied from, you know, being an incredibly successful Warriors team,

1088
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: Like do you imagine yourself maybe going that going back

1089
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: to Michigan and me you know, if the Pistons need

1090
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: that to go and you know, be in the front

1091
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: office and apply what you've learned.

1092
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 5: You know what, I love the Detroit Pistons because they're

1093
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 5: from the state of Michigan. The love that Joe dumar

1094
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 5: showed me in coming up him and Jordan Dumars and

1095
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 5: you know, the access that they gave me to see

1096
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 5: in the NBA organization operate to be around NBA players

1097
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 5: like Rip and take Shine and Big Bend and she

1098
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 5: like that access for me as a kid from Saginaw

1099
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 5: was like, oh wow, I'm like these like I could

1100
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 5: be like these dudes. They are like me, you know,

1101
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 5: like all right, like this is a life I can attain.

1102
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: Like wait, it's in reach for me.

1103
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: Like that to me was special.

1104
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 5: So I always have love for the Detroit Pistons, man,

1105
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 5: but my loyalty and love is the Golden State Warriors.

1106
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 5: I never sit back and look at it like, man,

1107
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 5: the Detroit Pistons is my home team.

1108
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 4: My home team is the Golden State Warriors.

1109
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 5: Like that's the organization for me that in my life

1110
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 5: that has had the most impact on my life. That's

1111
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 5: the organization for me that has shown me the most love,

1112
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 5: you know, And I think you know, so oftentimes we

1113
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 5: get caught up in like yo, I need to go

1114
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 5: back home, like I'm at home, Like I'm like that

1115
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 5: is home for me. I built a new home and

1116
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: the state of Michigan will always be where I'm from

1117
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 5: and the core of me and like my home for sure,

1118
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 5: But like I got two homes now, you know, and

1119
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 5: I don't look at it like yo, I need to

1120
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 5: go back to the Pistons and give back to them. No,

1121
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 5: if I need to give back to any organization, if

1122
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 5: they'll have me and allow me to give to, I

1123
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 5: need to give to the Warriors organization because that is

1124
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 5: the organization that is a part of my legacy.

1125
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: You know, the Detroit Pistons.

1126
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 5: As much as it is that I grew up in

1127
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 5: the state of Michigan, the Detroit Pistons isn't a part

1128
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 5: of my legacy at all outside of what Joe Dumars

1129
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 5: and those guys taught me. Other than that, what's a

1130
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 5: part of my legacy and what's home for me is

1131
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 5: to go to State Warriors. So if I had the

1132
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 5: chance of opportunity to give to an organization, that's the

1133
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 5: organization that I would want to give to.

1134
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 4: Now. Again, I do understand that this is big.

1135
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 5: Business and they may not always have me, and guess what,

1136
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 5: they don't owe me a goddamn thing, And I don't

1137
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 5: feel like they owe me anything.

1138
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 4: But that's what I want to give to now.

1139
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 5: When I take a second step back and I look

1140
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 5: at whether it's front office, whether it's coaching.

1141
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 4: If I'm honest with you, I have zero interest in

1142
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: either one of them right now.

1143
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 5: And the reason that I don't have any interest in

1144
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 5: either one of them is because I've been on the

1145
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 5: basketball schedule my entire life, man like, and the reality

1146
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 5: is as special as it is. You miss so much

1147
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 5: like you miss Like I missed my son taking this

1148
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 5: first step, Like I saw that shit on the camera, like.

1149
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 4: You know, and that's seven years ago. I have, I

1150
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: got three other.

1151
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 5: Kids on top of him, but like I missed him

1152
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 5: taking his first step, like you just missed so much.

1153
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 5: And by the way, I just mentioned my son. You

1154
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 5: miss weddings, like everybody don't have their wedding in the summer,

1155
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 5: you know when we're off. Like you miss weddings, you

1156
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 5: miss birthdays, you miss Christmases. Man, This Christmas was the

1157
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 5: first Christmas in eleven years that I've been at home.

1158
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 5: Now I mean at home for the entire day.

1159
00:51:59,520 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 4: Guess what.

1160
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 5: I was only at home because I was suspended. But

1161
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 5: it's the first Christmas in eleven years that I didn't

1162
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 5: step foot into an NBA arena. Like you missed so

1163
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 5: many things and so I'm just not sure i'd want

1164
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 5: to be that I'd want to be on a basketball schedule,

1165
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 5: but I will say I'm honored. Man. And with the

1166
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 5: conversations that I've had with Joe Laker over the years

1167
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 5: and him saying to me, like, Yo, when you're done,

1168
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 5: I can see you one day coaching this team when

1169
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 5: Steve's done, Like, I can see you working with this team,

1170
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 5: Like I would love to see that.

1171
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: That means the world to me, because that means.

1172
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 5: The man that owned the organization that I play for

1173
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 5: is watching me play basketball and saying, this guy.

1174
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: Can one day coach my team. Like, man, these these

1175
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 4: this again big business. These assets are not small.

1176
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: Man.

1177
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 5: Like, if you're gonna you're gonna trust somebody to coach

1178
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 5: your team, that's not small. That's not a small thing.

1179
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 5: That's a big fucking deal. And so to have to

1180
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 5: know that you have that type of support and like

1181
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 5: the owner of the organization that I play for is

1182
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 5: watching me and saying he can one day coach this

1183
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 5: or man, Steve curR is my coach. Like the guy

1184
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 5: who's been coaching in this organization for the last eleven years,

1185
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 5: ten year is Steve Kerr.

1186
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 4: He's a Hall of Fame coach.

1187
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 5: You're watching him and saying, I think that can one

1188
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 5: day be draymnd. That's insanity to me, and so I'm

1189
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: very thankful that people look at me in that light.

1190
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 5: But as I am in year twelve of my career,

1191
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 5: I say right now, and everything changes as time going on,

1192
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 5: So I would never say never. But where I stand

1193
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 5: right now in year twelve of my career headed into

1194
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 5: year thirteen, I'm not sure I want to be on

1195
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 5: the basketball.

1196
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: Scha Yeah, You've been in a long time and you

1197
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 2: always in a fight, is always in the playoffs.

1198
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: Like you said, you don't get no break. People don't

1199
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: understand you don't get no break.

1200
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: Right Luckily me out I had told my achilles that

1201
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: year somebody saying I got this year steps, But if

1202
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: it won't for the injuries, I would have never seen

1203
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: those first steps, like you don't get this those times back,

1204
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: You don't get that moment back, and being able to

1205
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,959
Speaker 2: watch it from a camera, you like, damn, I wish

1206
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: I was there for that, or even the first day

1207
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: take them to school.

1208
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: Sometimes we don't be there. We might be a training

1209
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: camp or mini camp somewhere.

1210
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 5: And look at that Jay Wall. You said, Man, luckily

1211
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 5: I got hurt. I tore my achilles and I was

1212
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 5: able to see my son walk. Listen to that, Yeah,

1213
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 5: luckily I tore my achilles. One of the worst injuries

1214
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 5: that you can go through. Like, I don't know the

1215
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 5: pain I knock on wood. I never wanted to.

1216
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: Be a pain.

1217
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 4: But guess what this man just said.

1218
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 5: Luckily I tore my achilles and I was able to

1219
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 5: see my son take his first step.

1220
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 3: Do you know how fucked up that is?

1221
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 4: Like?

1222
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 5: And this is what we do. And by the way, again,

1223
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 5: I don't take it for granted. I'm very lucky and

1224
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 5: thankful be in a position that I'm in, But it

1225
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 5: also sucks sometimes when people act like we don't deal

1226
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 5: with real shit, you know, like not being able to

1227
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 5: see my son take his first steps. That's real shit,

1228
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 5: Like that is a sacrifice that when people sit back

1229
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 5: and throw stones, they ain't willing to make that sacrifice.

1230
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 5: But you can sit back and throw a dart at

1231
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 5: me from across the room. Or how I may handle something,

1232
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 5: or how I may deal with something, or the mind

1233
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 5: state that I may be in on a specific day,

1234
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 5: but you don't know what I go through, Like you

1235
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 5: don't really know the burden that I carry on my

1236
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 5: back every single day and sometimes it just may get

1237
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 5: the best of me. Like you don't know that. Guess what?

1238
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 5: And you know what else? I always tell you ain't

1239
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 5: willing to make that sacrifice. I always tell guys like

1240
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 5: you know, every now and then you run into people

1241
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 5: and they're like, yo, I could plan it and be

1242
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, you couldn't deal with the stress of

1243
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 5: knowing that when you wake up at seven eight o'clock

1244
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 5: in the morning that you got to game at seven pm.

1245
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 5: Just the stress alone of that day you couldn't deal with.

1246
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 5: Don't tell me you could play in the NBA, like

1247
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 5: you out of your mind? Like and so for me, man,

1248
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 5: all right, you know, like to hear you say.

1249
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: That, I might not even want to go to shoot

1250
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 2: around it in fact, to shoot around at ten o'clock,

1251
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: that's before the game.

1252
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 3: You gotta go to shoot around.

1253
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 4: There, you there from nine to twelve thirty.

1254
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 5: Like, by the way, be back here at three thirty

1255
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 5: four o'clock, like the sacrifices man.

1256
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: And when you just said that, that took me back.

1257
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 5: I was lucky to tear my achilles so I could

1258
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 5: see my son first step. That's what we go through

1259
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 5: as athletes. And listen, it's great. The money we make

1260
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 5: is great. Playing basketball for a living is great, but

1261
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 5: just like everything else, it has its negatives as well.

1262
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: Sure, Dram and I have one more question here. You know,

1263
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: on the record, everyone knows that you and Lebron are

1264
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: pretty close friends. You know, you guys are getting in

1265
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: the twilight of your career, a few more years left,

1266
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: and I wanted to know the possibil the ever of

1267
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: you guys teaming up.

1268
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't know if you know. I love Brin.

1269
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 5: I love Bron to death. That's my brother, and you

1270
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 5: know the relationship that we have and what it's grown

1271
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 5: to I don't I cherish, you know, my my kids

1272
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 5: see him uncle Bron is Uncle Bron, Like I never

1273
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 5: take any of my brothers in my life for granted.

1274
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 4: Like I'm always thankful.

1275
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 5: I am a relationships guy, like I love building relationships.

1276
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 5: I love like that component of life. And I cherish people.

1277
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't take people for granted. You know,

1278
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 5: people earn't an item to me, you know, like I

1279
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 5: love people and I'm so thankful for the relationship that

1280
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 5: we have.

1281
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 4: I think it's a very special thing.

1282
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 5: I think, you know, when I take a step back

1283
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 5: and look at my life, something that I would have

1284
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 5: been like, especially in those early years in the finals,

1285
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 5: like yo, that's gonna be my brother and we're gonna

1286
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 5: be like this, Like I would have never thought that

1287
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 5: and saying that, as I've said before, unless Broun come

1288
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 5: into Golden State, I don't really see that happening.

1289
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

1290
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Speaker 4: You know, for me personally, if the Warriors will have

1291
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 4: me until.

1292
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 5: I'm done and I tie my shoe strings in then

1293
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 5: out and talk them things about the telephone wire.

1294
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 4: That's where I'll be.

1295
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 5: You know, It's nothing else And looking around the NBA

1296
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 5: that excites me more than doing all that I can

1297
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 5: to try to win another championship with the team that

1298
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 5: I've won for championships with, with the guys that I've

1299
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 5: won for championship with, uh, you know, Stephan Clay like there.

1300
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 5: I never look around the league and be like, hmm,

1301
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 5: I think I'll be great Like fuck that, man, I

1302
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 5: can be great right here. I can do what I

1303
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 5: need to do for us to win another championship. And

1304
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 5: that's my focus. And so as as as much as

1305
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 5: I would love the opportunity to play with Brian one day,

1306
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 5: like I thought I would have an opportunity to summer

1307
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 5: with Team USA, that didn't happen for me, and so

1308
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 5: I think that probably puts a rap, you know, a

1309
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 5: bowl on the possibilities of that, because as long, guys,

1310
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 5: this franchise will have me.

1311
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: It's where I'll be.

1312
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 4: Amazing.

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00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: Johnny got anything else that's good, Man, Draymond. I appreciate

1314
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: you coming on point game, man. I know you're busy,

1315
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: enjoy the off season, and thanks again.

1316
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: No doubt, thanks for having me man. I appreciate y'all.

1317
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 5: Jay Wall I've been enjoying watching you transition to this

1318
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 5: next chapter of your life, checking out your podcast, man,

1319
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 5: and just watching you get better and better. You know,

1320
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 5: when I first started this podcast journey, Man, I would

1321
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 5: come on and like, ya, I know basketball, and I

1322
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 5: know how I talked to people, and my producer would

1323
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 5: make this rundown of the show and like I'll be

1324
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 5: logging onto the zoom like reading the rundown and I'm like,

1325
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 5: all right, Finally I had to learn, like yo, you

1326
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 5: got to prepare, Like you can't just come into this

1327
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 5: shit thinking I'm about to read. And when I when

1328
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 5: I watch y'all show, like I see the preparation from you,

1329
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 5: I see the dedication you know, from you and taking

1330
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 5: this serious, and then I just wanted to say I

1331
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 5: love it, like I appreciate your journey, Bro, I appreciate, Uh,

1332
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 5: you know who you were in this league. You know,

1333
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 5: I know so oftentimes people try to like, damn what

1334
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 5: it is that you were in this league, like number one,

1335
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 5: It's not what you what you were, it's who you are.

1336
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 5: And don't ever forget that my dog like you was

1337
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 5: great in this league.

1338
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 4: You was. You was a standard for a lot of

1339
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 4: guys that ain't changed.

1340
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 5: And although people try to cast you out, try to

1341
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 5: throw you out when they feel like they don't.

1342
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 4: Lose you no more.

1343
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 5: I just want you to know, as one of your peers,

1344
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 5: the utmost respectful what you've brought to this game. And

1345
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 5: I love to watch what you're doing in the podcast space.

1346
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 5: It's beautiful to see.

1347
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: Bro appreciate that dreamt.

1348
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, when everybody need any advice on this, I'm definitely

1349
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: gonna heit you, but definitely appreciate that Bro.

1350
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 5: No doubt Bro's dog always.

1351
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 3: Bro. Yes, we could have played the NFL.

1352
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: Bro We're not saying we would have been aut but

1353
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: we're not saying we would have been Pro Bowls, the

1354
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: Hall of Famers. We could have played. You got such

1355
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 2: j I'll be telling us. You got like some football

1356
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: players they played in high school. I didn't know they

1357
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: fucking played till you go on YouTube. They bring out

1358
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: a highlight tape of them, Like, I don't know. It's like,

1359
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: but if they put the work in we put into

1360
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: basketball like they've been in football, we.

1361
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: Don't know what we could have been exactly.

1362
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 5: And that's my thing is So I think number one, like,

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01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 5: I disagree with what Austin said in the sense which

1364
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 5: is he said I can take thirty to forty guys

1365
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 5: right now and put them in the NFL.

1366
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 4: That's a lot because the learning curbage too steep.

1367
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 5: The type of training that your body needs to withstand

1368
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 5: the NFL is totally different than we've had over the

1369
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 5: last ten years. And so I am not of the

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01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 5: belief that any of us right now today could then

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01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 5: just jump to the NFL.

1372
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 4: However, I am of the belief that.

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01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 5: If we as NBA players, a lot of us trained

1374
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 5: to go to the NFL we very much so would

1375
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 5: have done that, like because in the NFL, like most

1376
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 5: of those guys were basketball players that weren't good enough

1377
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 5: like that, weren't skilled enough, that was probably strongest shit

1378
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 5: or fastest shit, but couldn't quite shoot, or was probably

1379
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 5: fast not quite big enough, or he was a six '

1380
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 5: four center. And you know my og Lamar Woodley like

1381
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 5: was a pro bowler in the NFL. He was a

1382
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 5: six to three center at my high school and was

1383
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 5: All state all of that.

1384
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 4: But he was a six to three center.

1385
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 5: He averaged twenty eighteen because he's moving niggas at d

1386
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 5: N went the University of Michigan, but he was six

1387
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,959
Speaker 5: y three center, like and.

1388
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 4: So he went to play football. Loved basketball his whole life.

1389
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 5: I want to play football, why because I'm gonna take

1390
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 5: this athleticism and make some money some type of way.

1391
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 4: In that six to three center, it ain't working for me.

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01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 5: And so I believe that like a lot of us

1393
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 5: could have played in the NFL if we were trained

1394
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 5: for that. However, not a lot of those guys could

1395
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 5: have played in the NBA if they were trained for it,

1396
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 5: because they are Most of them did train for it,

1397
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 5: and they weren't good enough, especially the receivers in the

1398
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 5: DBS and the running backs, like the skill positions. They

1399
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 5: are hoopers that weren't quite good enough.

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Speaker 1: You see that Keon Coleman guy though in the Bills

1401
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: his nice guess what a hooper that wasn't quite good enough?

1402
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 5: You know how I know he's a hooper that wasn't

1403
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 5: quite good enough. He went to Michigan State at first,

1404
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 5: he played both. He played football and basketball. He needn't

1405
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 5: get on the fucking court.

1406
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: Damn, he would get in.

1407
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 2: They have forty or fifty they see like last thirty

1408
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: seconds the minute.

1409
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 3: That's what is that.

1410
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 5: He probably one of her better players in the NFL. Now,

1411
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 5: like he didn't get in the game, Michigan stay.

1412
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: That's what the magic at editing and social media. They

1413
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: put together ten great plays and people are like, oh man,

1414
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: that's hall.

1415
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: I can make the best mixtape right now and just

1416
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: say oh this guy. But I know, I'm just saying, like,

1417
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: really not not be good at it though, Like I'm like,

1418
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: I've seen guy playing my autim and they put a

1419
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: mixtape out and I'm like, whoa, he's not this good.

1420
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 3: But then you go really watch a game and you'd

1421
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 3: be like, no, this is what he really is.

1422
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 4: Fat.

1423
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 3: Some kids try to go to college off their little

1424
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 3: highlight tapes.

1425
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1426
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: It's like me like like, you can't tell me to

1427
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: go work out, Like I can kill a workout. They

1428
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: don't mean I'm gonna do this shit in five on five.

1429
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 3: It's different.

1430
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 4: Like you had one player pre draft.

1431
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: How many coups go to pre draft and kill a

1432
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 2: pre draft workout one on one, but then when they

1433
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: go play five on five they don't know how to

1434
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: play basketball.

1435
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 4: That's a fact.

1436
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: Bro. Listen to this.

1437
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: John. You remember Joe Alexander that went to West.

1438
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 3: Virginia, Yes, one to West Virginia.

1439
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 5: So the athlete, listen, Joe Alexander was playing, and uh,

1440
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 5: Joe Alexander was playing and uh, Fanta cruise with our

1441
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 5: G League team and they brought him up for a

1442
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 5: workout because they was looking to field the fifteen rosters

1443
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 5: by possibly and he came for a workout.

1444
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 4: And I don't know if you remember big DJ White

1445
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 4: from Indiana.

1446
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, DJ White one, number three and it was a

1447
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 5: couple more, Yes, it was a couple more guys. Now, no,

1448
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 5: DJ White is not Lebron James or whatever. But I'm

1449
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 5: telling you, I watched this workout. Man, I'm gonna try

1450
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 5: to get film of the workout if I can get

1451
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 5: it on the sty to you, I watched this workout.

1452
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 5: It had to be the absolute best workout I've ever

1453
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 5: seen in my life.

1454
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 4: Like, I don't give a fuck.

1455
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 5: If you put goddamn Tony Allen in front of him,

1456
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 5: he was gonna bust his ass.

1457
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 4: And the thing is so Pete Myers was our assistant

1458
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 4: coach at the.

1459
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 5: Time, and Pete used to tell us because Pete had

1460
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 5: him in Chicago when they drafted him, like, hey, man,

1461
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 5: Joe Alexander the best one on one player I've ever seen.

1462
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 5: And then you go you put two on two out there,

1463
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 5: and motherfucker's still incredible. And then you go three on

1464
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 5: three and you get a little worse. And four on four,

1465
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 5: other fucker can't see shit. A five on five. He

1466
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 5: can't even play on the floor.

1467
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 4: Like that's what people would always believe it.

1468
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 5: And I'm like, but I just watched this workout, and

1469
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, don't be fooled by the workout. You

1470
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 5: ask some guys out there and putting another few pieces

1471
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 5: on the floor, he can't sit attend to see the

1472
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 5: rim anymore.

1473
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 4: It just got blindness. And I'm like, ah, it makes sense.

1474
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 5: So to Jay wall Point, like everybody can play one

1475
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 5: on one, like and it ain't a guy who helps

1476
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 5: out and you got to get through that gap. But

1477
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 5: you can't really do this shit at a high level, and.

1478
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: You know, reading the weeks out of the fit and

1479
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: they don't know what the fuck going on. That's why

1480
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: I'd be sitting like, let's go play one on one.

1481
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, I can play one on one all

1482
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: fucking day. I play one of my whole life. If

1483
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: you really know I play.

1484
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 3: One on one.

1485
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna go three dribbles to two dribbles and see

1486
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: how many people want to play Exactly it's like, no,

1487
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: we're not playing no more. They want to dribble for

1488
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 2: twenty second. I'm not chasing nobody around like that.

1489
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 5: Exactly, two three dribbles. I see if you can get

1490
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 5: a good shot off in two to three dribbles, because

1491
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 5: guess what that is the NBA, My man, you don't

1492
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 5: get twenty dribbles to try to get somewhere. You got

1493
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 5: two to three dribbles. And if you ain't where you're

1494
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 5: trying to get get off the ball.

1495
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 3: Brother.

1496
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: The only way you get that pass now is because

1497
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: the NBA is like a lot more spacing, and if

1498
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: you the guy, you might get that many dribbles. If

1499
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: you ain't the guy, that's how cal too is in college.

1500
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: If you can't get by nobody one or two dribbles, dribbles,

1501
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: come on, get off the ball.

1502
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 3: You need to come see next to us, exactly exactly.

1503
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: You can come sit next to us. We ain't doing that.

1504
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: That's a fine, Draymond appreciate you, Yes, sir, No diet Drey.

1505
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna see you around, bro.

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01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 5: Ain't no doubt. Jay Wallace, good to see you fair, Yes, sir,

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01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 5: Love bro Love.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to point Game with John wall and CJ. Toldonough,

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01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,120
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01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,400
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Speaker 1: The Crown is yours all right, John. We alluded to

1516
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: it in the beginning, but we wanted to get it

1517
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: here in the Bucketer Brick segment. So first one here,

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01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: we'll start off with the t Wolves our favorite over

1519
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: the maps to win the Western Conference Finals at minus

1520
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: one seventy, meaning if you bet one hundred and seventy dollars,

1521
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: you can win one hundred of bucks. So Bucket Brick,

1522
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves will win the West.

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01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 3: Hm.

1524
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: It's tough. You said in the beginning you weren't sure yet.

1525
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 3: That was gonna go. I don't know, I'm gonna I'm

1526
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 3: not gonna do nothing, okay.

1527
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: Because it's no no, because it's interesting because I feel like,

1528
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: for me, Kyrie and Luker are the best back cord

1529
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: of a point guard and real shooting guard and in

1530
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: the history to me, they haven't one anything. But just

1531
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 2: like they can both go get fifty, you know what

1532
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 2: I mean. But also I love the attitude and the

1533
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 2: aggretch the ant Man comes with. So I don't want

1534
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: to go against ant Man either, you know what I'm saying,

1535
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 2: Because ant Man is on another level right now.

1536
01:08:58,360 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: I love everything about it.

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01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: That means if you go, if you go supporting casts

1538
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: versus supporting cast. So we talk about role players a

1539
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: lot on this show. So what role players would you want?

1540
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: The massive Timberwolves. Let's try it that way, like I

1541
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: think they have. I think Mas have better shooters, bigger

1542
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 1: shot makers, but the Timberwolves. So you have like incredible

1543
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: defensive bigs.

1544
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no no no not really no, not

1545
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 3: really no.

1546
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: But you have the six man in nas Reed. But

1547
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 2: I love PJ. Washingt the way he's defending, the way

1548
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 2: he's making shots. I love the way Derrick Jones is

1549
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: stepping up making shots. So I feel like Derek Joe

1550
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: the Jada McDaniels, they like count each other out. I

1551
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: feel like Jada mcdane's more talented, more talented than what

1552
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: Dereck Jones is. But Derek Jones is doing the same

1553
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: than Jaden McDaniel's doing, you know what I'm saying.

1554
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 3: Then I think nas Reed gives them the edge on

1555
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 3: the other end. But PJ. Washington has been great for them,

1556
01:09:59,280 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1557
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: You have Josh Green that come in and do his thing,

1558
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: Dote Xen was there then they started playing Jaden Hardy,

1559
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 2: Derrick Livey's been special for them. So I think it's

1560
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: gonna be interesting. I think it's gonna be interest. He's

1561
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 2: going six to seven for sure.

1562
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Celtics Pacers Eastern Conference Finals, So bucketer brick,

1563
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: the Pacers will force a game seven in Boston, not

1564
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: Pacers winning to force the game.

1565
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: I see it going five or six.

1566
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: I see it going five or six because I just

1567
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 2: feel like the Pacers are fighting hard. I love coach

1568
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle. Siaka has been special. Uh, Hallen Burds has

1569
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: showed up in moments in spurts. I just think as

1570
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: such as they have, they they know what they they

1571
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: know what they're going for.

1572
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 3: I mean, everything's on the line. They've been there before.

1573
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: I think what Tatum be in the league seven years,

1574
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,480
Speaker 2: he's been to a five or six East Conference Finals.

1575
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: I think they know what they need to do to

1576
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: get there.

1577
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: I think they got their mindset on one goal, and

1578
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: that's get to the finals and let's get over the humps.

1579
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 3: So I see them taking care of business.

1580
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're the clear favorite right now after

1581
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: the Nuggets. Yeah, okay, all right, moving on here back

1582
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: to the Nuggets. The bucket or brick, the Nuggets will

1583
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: win another title with Yo Kich Bucket.

1584
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like I feel like they realized

1585
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 2: this year they what they lost from their bench. Last

1586
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: year heard them and this year, I mean because the

1587
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 2: tim Woods was wearing them down. They had a better bench,

1588
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 2: So I think they realized what they was missing. I

1589
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: think they may objective is it signed guys back and

1590
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 2: then go sign some pieces. They helped their bench a

1591
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: little bit, but the young guys are still developing. I

1592
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: just don't think they was ready for that type of moment.

1593
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What type of players you think they got

1594
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: to go out and get this offseason.

1595
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,839
Speaker 2: Like the Bruce Brown, like Jeff Green, like those guys

1596
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: that was veterans knew how to play. It's it's okay

1597
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: to have the young guys, you know. I mean, it's

1598
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 2: okay to have young guys and still develop them. But

1599
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: I feel like they was missing some of those veteran

1600
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 2: guys off the bench to help him because they only

1601
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 2: played like three guys off the bench. You know, usually

1602
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: Nuggets can play three, four or five guys, So I

1603
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 2: think they a little bit more help with their bench.

1604
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, moving on a little bit of

1605
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 1: Lakers talk here, So Bucke or Brick. JJ Reddick will

1606
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: be the next coach of the Lakers.

1607
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: Buck, Yeah, I think he is. I just think he is.

1608
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 1: The way the media is talking, it's like JJ is

1609
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: is primed to take that spot, so they do it.

1610
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: How do you think that go? How does it work?

1611
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 3: You know?

1612
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: Because I think people are a little bit a little

1613
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: I think weary of it because he's a first time

1614
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: head coach. You know, we just had Darvin Ham for

1615
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: two years and they thought it was more of a

1616
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: player coach. So in the Lakers, biggest organization to be

1617
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: the head coach of how do you think that works?

1618
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I never seen JJ coach, you know.

1619
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like, yeah, I just see him on the

1620
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 2: podcasts and then see him broadcasting.

1621
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 3: So I really don't know how that would work.

1622
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 2: But all the best of the lucky we do get

1623
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: the job, you know, I mean, like whatever job you

1624
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: do get, it is the legers or whatever.

1625
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 3: Being ahead coach is.

1626
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: Not easy, I mean because yeah, there's so much that

1627
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: comes with it nowadays, and now it's more of a

1628
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: player's league than a coaches league, you know what I mean.

1629
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: So long as yours, long as your players respect you

1630
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: and buy into what you got going on.

1631
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 3: You can go a long way.

1632
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: I mean, yet, I know they're gonna probably try to

1633
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: trade for somebody we get the job and add some

1634
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 2: more pieces to help them out.

1635
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 4: Right.

1636
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

1637
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: Because I from talking to guys like you played in

1638
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: the league and that had you know coaches you I

1639
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: think you and and Marsham were talking about, you know,

1640
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: Randy Whitman, and it's almost having a coach who can

1641
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: connect with the players but also can call out their

1642
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: their bullshit.

1643
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 3: You know that kind of I don't give it, Damne.

1644
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 3: It's high school college level.

1645
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: Like, if the best player can be coached by the coach,

1646
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: your team is not going far. I mean, like you

1647
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: got to be able to hold your best player accountable

1648
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: the same way you hold the fifteen down on the

1649
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: team accountable. And then once everybody see that, then it

1650
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: brings your team together more because okay, shit, if he's

1651
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: getting on our best player, I gotta do my job

1652
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 2: as a role player, you know what I mean. But

1653
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: if I'm not getting on the best player, the role player,

1654
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 2: like with shit, he feel a way too, you know

1655
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I don't have to listen to him,

1656
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: or I don't have to buy in. So when the

1657
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 2: best players buying in and doing it on both ends

1658
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: of the floor, everybody's followed their lead.

1659
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: And that's as important as knowing the ex and up.

1660
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 2: That's the most important role actually though would come down

1661
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 2: the pack. But if I can't coach my best player

1662
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 2: and hold him accountable like I can the fifteen player

1663
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 2: on my roster that might not play and my team

1664
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: not going far. And then after that, you know, building

1665
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 2: team chemistry, building camaraderie, guys liking each other and just

1666
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 2: want to play for each other, Like you look at

1667
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: the tea boards man, Like last year they didn't know

1668
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: if Kat wanted to be Cat wanted to be the

1669
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: man that an't want to be the man.

1670
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 3: You could tell this ship they know what the man is.

1671
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 2: They all accepted it, you know what I mean, Like

1672
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: they know answer guy, Kat is cool with being the

1673
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: second guy. And you see how where they're playing, like

1674
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 2: how they come out of it is how their team is,

1675
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: like they enjoy each other, their young team, but with

1676
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: a couple of vets, but they enjoy playing for each

1677
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: other and that goes a long way, all.

1678
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: Right, all right, Finally, Bucket or Brick, Jo kich is

1679
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: actually happy the playoffs are over so you can go

1680
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: home to his horses. You think that's real, You think

1681
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: people there's all these memes out there who are like,

1682
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: Yo kicch is fine, he just wants to go and

1683
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: hang out with us.

1684
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: I say brick because yogis why not care about like

1685
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 2: the MVP's and all that. But shit, he's still the

1686
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 2: basketball player. Like he still want to win championships. I

1687
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: know that for sure. I mean, he don't care for me.

1688
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 2: He don't care about the accolades, really don't care about

1689
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 2: the media attention. He don't want that. He just wanted

1690
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 2: to play basketball. If you win, he's winning. After that,

1691
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 2: I'm going back home, like he loves to be in

1692
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 2: his hometown. He loves to be around his horses, he

1693
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 2: loves to be around his family. And you can't be

1694
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 2: mad at it. I mean, because he kills in the NBA.

1695
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: My job is done here. I'm going droy my life

1696
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 2: and he's just doing it back home in his country,

1697
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 2: so he can't be mad at all.

1698
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,839
Speaker 3: But I say brick because I know him.

1699
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 2: I don't know him, but I know he has still

1700
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 2: want to if he had a chance to fight and

1701
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 2: to try to go win the championship, he would love that.

1702
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 3: He just don't care about the media attention. I could

1703
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 3: tell you that. I bet.

1704
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I really enjoyed his uh postgame press conference last

1705
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: night where he was breaking it down. It's like he

1706
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: said the specifics Timberwolves are built to beat the Nuggets,

1707
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: and they came up short, you know. And so if

1708
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 1: he didn't care and you want to just go back

1709
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: to the sources, he would have been like p some out,

1710
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: you know.

1711
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I felt that he was half the perfect

1712
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 2: team that could be the Nuggets, like they had the

1713
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: perfect team. I mean I told him before, I said,

1714
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: look at last year when nas Reed and Jadam Damn Zert,

1715
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 2: they still had a great series. So you're adding a

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01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,639
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Speaker 2: That changes the aspect of the game for them. Got

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be We're gonna see that matchup

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Speaker 1: again in these next few for sure. I think Nuggets

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Speaker 1: the Timberwolves vice versa.

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Speaker 3: Like this is chess like chess, because the Timple Wolves.

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Speaker 2: Even though they beat them, they're gonna try to do

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Speaker 2: I mean, all the priendings. If the Nuggets go do something,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have to do something. That's how they're gonna feel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well we're just getting started with these conference finals.

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Speaker 1: So uh, you know, people listening right now, keep listening, John,

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Speaker 1: do you have anything else with the fans?

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Speaker 2: The man's gonna be a siting now we had the

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Speaker 2: conference finals. We know what the matchups are, and you're

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Speaker 3: You know it's gonna be a siting. So I already

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Speaker 3: see when the game get rolling. So show Tom, YEP, showtime.

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