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Speaker 1: Around the NFL. My name is Dan Hansis I got
Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with some heroes here, Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. And yes, we kept this open ended
Speaker 1: audience of loyal listeners this season that when there was
Speaker 1: a particularly newsy Monday morning, we might break out of
Speaker 1: our typical cycle, which has been Monday night recap plus
Speaker 1: news and just give the news its own little platform.
Speaker 1: And that's what we're doing today because there is a
Speaker 1: lot to get to. How has everybody I've missed you guys,
Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't seen you in easily six hours.
Speaker 2: Well, we've also been texting. That's the thing. We spend
Speaker 2: so much time together on air, certainly off air at work,
Speaker 2: but then it's usually like the minute we leave work,
Speaker 2: then we start texting and it basically continues until the
Speaker 2: next show. So you you are my brothers.
Speaker 3: There's a healthy codependency, you know, at play. But you know,
Speaker 3: we have only done this news show once and we
Speaker 3: we you know, the bar needed to be high. A
Speaker 3: lot of quarterback stuff happened and before the show happens.
Speaker 3: You know, Greg typically will create a little news rundown,
Speaker 3: and it was like five items and it got longer
Speaker 3: and longer and longer and longer. So it's like, we
Speaker 3: got to go do this.
Speaker 1: Well, said Mark, you put it.
Speaker 2: Beautifully, I thought he was going to say, And it
Speaker 2: turned into a Russian novel by the end. That's a
Speaker 2: Marcism totally story, a little worn peace here.
Speaker 1: So yes, check out the week eight Sunday recap and
Speaker 1: we will have the Monday night football recap for the
Speaker 1: game between Mark.
Speaker 3: What are we saying? Are you totally? I was drifting off.
Speaker 2: To space the Raiders the team of at l is
Speaker 2: Jimmy g the most handsome man in the league.
Speaker 1: Let's go just a different different when Mark is in
Speaker 1: that home space. I gotta tell you I do.
Speaker 2: Like the plaid though, So everyone check it out on YouTube.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. No sense messing around
Speaker 1: any further. Let's do some news.
Speaker 2: It just didn't feel like it should end like that.
Speaker 2: You understand, only one team at the end of the
Speaker 2: season is able to walk off the field victorious. It's
Speaker 2: kind of a cool reality of this business.
Speaker 1: But you know, we'll keep working and I will continue
Speaker 1: to have the goal that someday I'm standing here talking
Speaker 1: to you all, and it's a much much bigger stature,
Speaker 1: So thank you. I know it's not the most popular
Speaker 1: take on this show. In fact, I believe Mark you
Speaker 1: excused yourself from the studio when we talked the Quarterbacks
Speaker 1: Netflix series that ran this summer, But I thought that
Speaker 1: that was one of my favorite, like NFL films productions
Speaker 1: that I've seen in recent years. If there was a
Speaker 1: tug boat cut, we're getting rid of everything Marcus Mariota based,
Speaker 1: and then we take it down. But then the two
Speaker 1: figures that are left, Patrick Mahomes, possibly the greatest quarterback
Speaker 1: who's ever lived, playing at the height of his powers
Speaker 1: during a Super Bowl Championship run, covering him day to
Speaker 1: day during that run, and then Kirk Cousins, who is
Speaker 1: perhaps the most you know, lightning Rod, like a lightning
Speaker 1: Rod quarterback of his generation. And the news became official
Speaker 1: just before we went on today, the Vikings announced that
Speaker 1: Cousins did indeed tear his achilles tendon and Sunday's win
Speaker 1: over the Green Bay Packers, he's out for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. The timeline and details of his upcoming
Speaker 1: surgery will be determined this week per the team, and
Speaker 1: again there is a there are implications for the here
Speaker 1: and now for the Vikings about what happens next with them,
Speaker 1: which we're going to get to, and also the bigger
Speaker 1: picture for Cousins, who in a walk year of his
Speaker 1: contract that the Vikings specifically chose to let this year
Speaker 1: play out, and he just so happened Mark to be
Speaker 1: having one of the best seasons of his career when
Speaker 1: he took that fateful step at lambeau Field. So here
Speaker 1: we are now, Cousins out for the year, a great
Speaker 1: season cut short, and his future and unknown.
Speaker 3: You started to feel like this Vikings team record aside,
Speaker 3: was a team that had a better chance with the
Speaker 3: way he was playing, to operate as like a berserker
Speaker 3: down the stretch, potentially make the playoffs and maybe do
Speaker 3: some damage there. There's just a lot to like in
Speaker 3: this offense. And when you get this version of Cousins,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it felt like the ceiling was a
Speaker 3: mystery and a good way for them, And so I
Speaker 3: think there's sort of a feeling of depression around this development,
Speaker 3: because yes, like it's one thing if a young first
Speaker 3: round pick was stepping in or someone that had a
Speaker 3: lot of promise, there's really nothing behind him right now,
Speaker 3: and it changes the end off. I mean, I feel
Speaker 3: like from another angles, a team like the Lions that
Speaker 3: doesn't play the Vikings till weeks sixteen and week eighteen,
Speaker 3: they basically this division is an empty husk, and so
Speaker 3: it's like it changes a weird NFC wildcard picture. It
Speaker 3: changes the NFC North, and it changes the career arc
Speaker 3: of Kirk Cousins. We don't know where he'll play next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you look at that wildcard picture,
Speaker 2: that seventh spot is going to be funky, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's even assuming you know, second place in the
Speaker 2: NFC East, whether it's Cowboys or Ego, second place in
Speaker 2: the NFC West, assuming the Seahawks, you know, keep it
Speaker 2: going and can make the playoffs, and in the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers, then that seventh spot, who the heck knows
Speaker 2: where it's coming from. I would have maybe made the
Speaker 2: Vikings the favorite after yesterday. They were four and one
Speaker 2: in their last five games, and they have a spicy
Speaker 2: defense and a quarterback playing, you know, as a Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl quarterback. It's heartbreaking. I think the point of those
Speaker 2: shows quarterback, other than to make money, is from the
Speaker 2: NFL film's perspective, to create an attachment with a player
Speaker 2: with a team that wouldn't be there. And I think
Speaker 2: how they portrayed Kirk Cousins absolutely did that, and I
Speaker 2: think that's actually why it's resonating even more dan Is
Speaker 2: because of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was I'm glad you brought that up, because
Speaker 1: that was the other point I wanted to make that.
Speaker 1: I felt like the people that watched that and have
Speaker 1: followed his career, there was kind of a curcaissance going
Speaker 1: on this year. So for it to end in such
Speaker 1: sudden fashion when he's playing really some of the best
Speaker 1: football of his career at I believe age thirty six, now,
Speaker 1: that is a real crushing thing in terms of what
Speaker 1: the Vikings do. And we talked a little bit on
Speaker 1: Sunday night, and I was in a little bit of
Speaker 1: a different camp because I didn't think the Vikings should
Speaker 1: trade a draft pick of value, and I mean like
Speaker 1: a Day one or Day two draft pick to bring
Speaker 1: in a veteran to just put somebody there. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mortgage the future to try to save this season.
Speaker 1: Where they are right now. But there is a report
Speaker 1: out there, Greg from Pro foot Ball talk of another
Speaker 1: name that's out there who would address both the here
Speaker 1: and now and the future, and that would make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Mike Floria, who is a closet Vikings fan
Speaker 2: throughout Kyler Murray. So it's it's a lot to happen
Speaker 2: in the next two days. And that's because they weren't
Speaker 2: they if they could possibly think about Kyler Murray, they
Speaker 2: weren't thinking about it two days ago. So it's a
Speaker 2: lot to try to wrap your mind around. But Kyler
Speaker 2: is an interesting name. The next two days between them,
Speaker 2: and just.
Speaker 1: Think about Floria.
Speaker 2: I think he was really just throwing it out there
Speaker 2: more than anything, but almost wishful thinking. There hasn't been
Speaker 2: any hard reporting about what they might do or won't do.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Nick Mullins is hurt. They have Jaren hall
Speaker 2: who is a fifth round rookie, and they're going to
Speaker 2: bring in someone, whether it's a backup to Haller or
Speaker 2: maybe like a case Keenum type, They're going to bring
Speaker 2: in someone.
Speaker 3: One name that has sort of been linked to the
Speaker 3: Vikings because Colt McCoy worked out for the team recently.
Speaker 3: He was with Kevin O'Connell for three years in Washington.
Speaker 3: You know he was They were glued together in preparation
Speaker 3: every week, so he knows him well. He would know
Speaker 3: the attack to some degree. I don't know. I guess
Speaker 3: like Carson Wentz is still sitting out there someone like
Speaker 3: we talked about maybe Matt Ryan gives them a call Florio,
Speaker 3: you know, more like this was this was more just
Speaker 3: like wild speculation. Wondered if Kevin O'Connell, who was teammates
Speaker 3: with Tom Brady, would maybe make a phone call in
Speaker 3: that direction. That feels like lunacy to me. But this
Speaker 3: offense is like set to go. That's the one thing
Speaker 3: it's like I don't like. I don't think the Vikings
Speaker 3: should give up on the season if they if they
Speaker 3: can self scout their quarterback position and say we've gotten
Speaker 3: nothing here currently. I don't think you ride with Nick Maullins, like,
Speaker 3: do you waste another year of Justin Jefferson, a year
Speaker 3: of Jordison Jordan Adison's rookie contract. I think you like
Speaker 3: they're a sneaky good team if they get functional quarterback plays.
Speaker 2: They showed a shocking amount of confidence in Jaren Hall
Speaker 2: in those two series, letting him throw on early down,
Speaker 2: letting him throw on third and eight when they needed
Speaker 2: to burn clock. He fumbled and kind of burn them
Speaker 2: and they did it a third and long, but they
Speaker 2: got to get someone. And I don't know, you still
Speaker 2: got to play these seven years. I'm with you, not
Speaker 2: mortgage in the future, Dan, but for a fourth round
Speaker 2: pick or you just you just try to do the
Speaker 2: best that you can, right, And it's funny. It might
Speaker 2: give Kirk a better chance to return there. I actually think, like,
Speaker 2: because now he's not going to be healthy till the
Speaker 2: middle of the next offseason. It's weird. Whoever signs Kirk
Speaker 2: is going to have to kind of play it both
Speaker 2: ways and not totally count on him.
Speaker 1: You know what, though, Like I think he would have
Speaker 1: a robust market in free agency. I think people would
Speaker 1: seeing how he played this season, knowing the way players
Speaker 1: can recover from even a serious injury like an achilles,
Speaker 1: I think he would have a big market and would
Speaker 1: get paid big time money. We'll see, Yeah, I do agree,
Speaker 1: you don't just give up on the season. But like
Speaker 1: I'll use the other like when Aaron Rodgers Pops's achilles.
Speaker 1: Part of the reason that that was such a like
Speaker 1: a tragic thing for Jets fans is that you looked
Speaker 1: at the roster and you said, this looks like a
Speaker 1: potential Super Bowl roster with a loaded defense and playmakers
Speaker 1: on offense. They just need a QB to make it go.
Speaker 1: So when you think about should they go get a quarterback,
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, because that maybe they could hoist
Speaker 1: the Lombardi if they added a quarterback in Minnesota. How
Speaker 1: much does it lift the ceiling in terms of what
Speaker 1: they can do? It is a wide open conference. I'll
Speaker 1: say that I would love the Kyler Murray thing. That
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 2: That would be wild. But if you're like saving up
Speaker 2: draft picks or you're thinking about, Okay, we need to
Speaker 2: find a quarterback of the future at some point, so
Speaker 2: let's not burn our draft picks or our cap space
Speaker 2: like it's for someone like Kyler Murray bright a number
Speaker 2: one who's had some pretty good production.
Speaker 1: And it's just interesting. I guess that it just so
Speaker 1: happens that the timing coincides exactly with a the trade
Speaker 1: deadline and deadline spur actions and b Kyler Murray being
Speaker 1: cleared to play in this exceeding weirdness coming out of
Speaker 1: Arizona about not wanting to play him. Let's see other news,
Speaker 1: other injury news. Matthew Stafford his near future is up
Speaker 1: in the air at the Athletics. Jordan Rodrigue reports that
Speaker 1: the Rams are quote evaluating a range of potential scenarios
Speaker 1: for Stafford after he suffered a thumb injury on Sunday
Speaker 1: in that blowout loss to the Cowboys. They have a
Speaker 1: Week nine matchup against the Packers before they hit their buy,
Speaker 1: so it seems like potentially Stafford is on the shelf
Speaker 1: this week and then gets the buy to recover, but
Speaker 1: it could go beyond that, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, The report says they haven't ruled out injured reserve,
Speaker 2: so that would all but end the Ram season. And again,
Speaker 2: the timing's interesting with the trade deadline here, did they
Speaker 2: possibly think of just pulling the ripcord here trading some
Speaker 2: people for this to be reported in this way and
Speaker 2: she's the only one that's really reported this, you know,
Speaker 2: indicates to me, like the best case in it is
Speaker 2: probably that first thing that you said if you want
Speaker 2: Stafford to return, that there's a range of outcomes and
Speaker 2: it's got to be cold in Green Bay. They even mentioned,
Speaker 2: like the weather this week, like with the buy coming up,
Speaker 2: that that would be unlikely. But when they do further
Speaker 2: tests and kind of see how it goes the rest
Speaker 2: of the week, like it might be pushing it and
Speaker 2: they might have to be careful. And then it's suddenly
Speaker 2: again Mark whoever has got the Rams on their schedule
Speaker 2: the next four weeks like totally gets lucky because Stetsan
Speaker 2: Bennett is on the did not is on a reserve
Speaker 2: list right now, non football illness list. They haven't give
Speaker 2: given details about that, but it's it's Brett Rippin as
Speaker 2: the backup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, you know you were demoralized by Dallas.
Speaker 3: Then this was the anti icing on the cake. And
Speaker 3: it's you know, two years in a row where the
Speaker 3: Rams are thrown into the blender because of losing Stafford.
Speaker 3: And I mean like cousins, you know, we've been talking
Speaker 3: about Stafford correctly for the last month that it's not
Speaker 3: as you know, numbers so much. But he's playing as
Speaker 3: well as we've ever seen him place, throwing the ball
Speaker 3: as well as Matthew Stafford ever has and there was
Speaker 3: sort of an energy in a spirit to this RAMS team,
Speaker 3: and he was right at the heart of it, and
Speaker 3: you kind of lose your north star now and you're
Speaker 3: back in that wilderness where it's like if you lose
Speaker 3: him for you know, if he goes on IR check
Speaker 3: you later. Rams. I mean, it's just it's like the
Speaker 3: drop off from QB one to two on a lot
Speaker 3: of these teams. It's pretty drastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we'll get to the Giants in a second,
Speaker 1: because I had a thought on that about what's going
Speaker 1: on in the depth charts in our league right now? Mark,
Speaker 1: what would be anti icing on the cake? Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you scraping off essentially the top layer of what's
Speaker 1: already like a pretty like cake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it would be I mean, icing on the
Speaker 3: cake would suggest, well, this is just a beautiful thing,
Speaker 3: right taste and EXPERIENCETI.
Speaker 1: Icing would be what like.
Speaker 3: A layer of you know, if you were to go
Speaker 3: into like your sink in like deep scrap whatever's down
Speaker 3: that sink pipe and then put that on top of
Speaker 3: a cake that already tastes.
Speaker 2: Good, like an anti freeze on the cake. That would
Speaker 2: work some anti freeze and it ruins the cake. You know,
Speaker 2: it's a little morient I freeze on this cake is
Speaker 2: And I know it's a little awkward to talk fantasy
Speaker 2: football after injuries. Of course, were disappointed for these players.
Speaker 1: Oh, our society is long past the stage where it's
Speaker 1: seen as awkward. We just didn't talk about it.
Speaker 2: And it's disappointing for these teams and these men. But
Speaker 2: if you were enjoying Jordan Addison's insane season or Pukinakua
Speaker 2: in Cooper Cup and all this stuff, it's it's not
Speaker 2: going to be the same. No, in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1: In other quarterback news, Oh boys, True to what I
Speaker 1: said on Sunday, I couldn't believe it. I didn't think
Speaker 1: it would ever happened. But the first game that I
Speaker 1: teed up this morning for a rewatch was indeed Titans football,
Speaker 1: where Will Levis did look really fun in lighting up
Speaker 1: the Falcons defense. The Falcons on their side of the ball,
Speaker 1: finally mercifully benched Desmond Ritter, who's been holding the back
Speaker 1: all year. Tellor Heineke comes in and plays well and
Speaker 1: the team produces in the second half, And I'm thinking
Speaker 1: to myself, like, how committed to this bit? Will Arthur
Speaker 1: Smith be because there is no way you could go
Speaker 1: back to Ritter after Heineke badly outplayed the starter. But
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith has kind of made it a joke of
Speaker 1: like how to handle a roster and how to how
Speaker 1: to deal with the media and being truthful and honest
Speaker 1: and and make sense and be logical. So let's see
Speaker 1: if he finds a way to keep Rider and the
Speaker 1: lineup moving forward. Here's what Arthur Smith had to say
Speaker 1: on Monday about his starter.
Speaker 4: I gotta see where he's at.
Speaker 1: So that's that's fun.
Speaker 4: That's all the best I can give him where I
Speaker 4: gotta see where he's at. I can see if that's
Speaker 4: the best thing for his team this week. Obviously it's
Speaker 4: not something that's earned long term. He's done a lot
Speaker 4: of good things, but we got to find a way
Speaker 4: to go win this game, whether you know we had
Speaker 4: it's Taylor, that's what we'll do. I concerned his Dez
Speaker 4: obviously long term, you know, got back out there.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ready. Okay, someone translated, because that
Speaker 1: was might as well be another language.
Speaker 2: I'm going to translate. Yeah, Taylor Aidicky is starting Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what was all that.
Speaker 1: Says about Dez about I got to see what Dez
Speaker 1: and Okay, so he's.
Speaker 2: Like hiding behind the injury thing. Still now he was
Speaker 2: tested for a concussion, and he kept saying, look, health
Speaker 2: can affect you, and so we got to see how
Speaker 2: he's feeling. But then he also said, like I'm concerned
Speaker 2: about him as a person.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I mean, like, what are we
Speaker 1: doing here?
Speaker 2: Right? I think he's talking about I think he's maybe
Speaker 2: a little scarred from the Marcus Mariota Ryan Tannehill transition,
Speaker 2: which Mariota took very poorly and had some issues with
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith about well he quit the team no back
Speaker 2: in Tennessee. I mean, not all. It's confusing. It's confusing
Speaker 2: that Arthur Smith Marcus Mariota benchings. But good point. There
Speaker 2: was one last year too. I'm thinking about the one
Speaker 2: back in Tennessee. And so he kept pointing out like
Speaker 2: long term, it's Deaz and so what we got to
Speaker 2: win a game this week and so that to me said, but.
Speaker 1: If he's clear, he's cleared this hypothetical health hurdle that's
Speaker 1: being floated out there potentially in a fugesy manner, does
Speaker 1: that mean that Desmin rider would start if he's healthy.
Speaker 1: I think he seems like the door was open.
Speaker 3: That quote, I mean, if you read it versus I
Speaker 3: think the way he speaks sometimes you kind of drift
Speaker 3: away as the listener. But I've never heard him say this.
Speaker 3: It said, it's not something I'm concerned about long term.
Speaker 3: He's done a lot of good things, but we got
Speaker 3: to go find a way to win this game. Like
Speaker 3: he's never introduced. Like yeah, but like, no matter how
Speaker 3: healthy is or how good of a job Desmond Richards done,
Speaker 3: we're in a different situation now as a team. So
Speaker 3: I think for me, I took it as a clear
Speaker 3: indication that Heineke will start. And by the way they're
Speaker 3: playing the Cousins free Vikings, so you got a chance
Speaker 3: till Tilhonnieck is in a better spot than he would
Speaker 3: be with Cousins announce Wednesday.
Speaker 2: He will announce the starter, he said, no matter what
Speaker 2: I promise you, I will tell you Wednesday who's Startingly
Speaker 2: that means that's a new guy.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I also would not be surprised if Wednesday
Speaker 1: comes and goes and there will be no starter announced.
Speaker 1: He's got his commitment to this bit is I mean
Speaker 1: almost admirable, all right. Now, moving on more quarterback news,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, who has a neck issue for the second
Speaker 1: time in his career, and that and that spooks teams,
Speaker 1: as it should. He has been practicing with the team
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, but hadn't been able to
Speaker 1: get cleared for contact, which is why Tyrod Taylor started
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. On Sunday against the Jets,
Speaker 1: and so much was happening in general that didn't get
Speaker 1: to drill in on this as much. Tyrod scrambles out
Speaker 1: of the pocket, gets brought down near the sideline, suffers
Speaker 1: a rib injury. He was pretty scary because he's down
Speaker 1: on the field and he runs off the field and
Speaker 1: then kind of collapses on the sideline. They ended up
Speaker 1: taking him to the hospital for observation, and I believe
Speaker 1: of this recording he's still being observed at the hospital.
Speaker 1: And the news is Daniel Jones is now cleared for contact.
Speaker 1: He will return and start for the Giants and Week
Speaker 1: nine in what is obviously a must win for them.
Speaker 1: And that's good news because one other takeaway from that
Speaker 1: insane Jets Giants game was Brian Dable having a quarterback
Speaker 1: on his roster in Tommy DeVito, who went to don
Speaker 1: Bosco Prep is where which is where all like the
Speaker 1: kids where I grew up, went to play sports if
Speaker 1: they were really good, by the way, So like a
Speaker 1: super local kid, he would not let him throw the ball.
Speaker 1: He finished with negative passing yards, and even in overtime,
Speaker 1: the Giants win the coin toss and they throw three
Speaker 1: consecutive screen passes behind the line of scrimmage and punt
Speaker 1: the ball back to the Jets essentially gave up. But
Speaker 1: it almost felt like because they wouldn't let de Vito
Speaker 1: even try a pass. The fans at met Life Stadium,
Speaker 1: it was a Giants home game, so all their fans
Speaker 1: were there were channing let him throw, let him throw,
Speaker 1: and it was just as crazy to me that they wouldn't, like,
Speaker 1: you would have this guy on your active roster. You
Speaker 1: would go through all of training camp and he would
Speaker 1: be ostensibly throwing the ball downfield in these practices, and
Speaker 1: then when the games comes, he literally never let him
Speaker 1: throw the ball once. So thank god for Giants fans
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones is healthy enough to return to the lineup.
Speaker 1: But that was a head scratcher to me.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like, I'm with you. What is he doing
Speaker 3: on an NFL right? Anyone playing quarterback in an NFL roster,
Speaker 3: are you going to be great? No, not necessarily if
Speaker 3: you're a third stringer, but you've got to be able
Speaker 3: to be trusted to in that situation. Try to make
Speaker 3: a play, go for it. So I'm with you, was mystifine.
Speaker 3: I don't really remember a game where a team ended
Speaker 3: with negative nine yards passing. I'm sure it's happened, but
Speaker 3: it's an outlier, you know. The one thing with Daniel Jones,
Speaker 3: it's like the reoccurring neck issues. He's had disc issues.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of like, I know the game and
Speaker 3: the money, but it's like the durability has been a
Speaker 3: b line for Daniel Jones outside of last season's and
Speaker 3: he's playing behind a terrible offensive line. He's he was
Speaker 3: so heavily punished before he went out that it was
Speaker 3: getting hard to watch. So that is a concerning situation
Speaker 3: for his health in general.
Speaker 2: Well, at least he gets to play the Raiders next week.
Speaker 2: But it's it's pretty heartbreaking for for Tyrod. He's had
Speaker 2: such an unlucky career and he's been a solid NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2: That's why he's still playing at age thirty six. You
Speaker 2: do wonder if that is potentially the end of his career.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he can come back this year and continue being
Speaker 2: a backup. But I think he's still in court suing
Speaker 2: the charters doctors for watching the injection that led to
Speaker 2: his collapse lung, same area. You know, we don't have
Speaker 2: any information.
Speaker 1: It started the career of Justin Herbert, right.
Speaker 2: So it's just man, uh, you you feel for this,
Speaker 2: This whole team, this whole quarterback room seems spooked.
Speaker 1: I went to school again, grew up in the same
Speaker 1: area as Tommy DeVito. I went to school with a
Speaker 1: kid named Tim DaVita, and this is Tommy DeVito. A
Speaker 1: lot of Italians in my neck of the woods. Here
Speaker 1: is Tommy DeVito on Twitter. If you're watching on YouTube,
Speaker 1: can we please take him moment? This from Andy Wilson
Speaker 1: to talk about Tommy DeVito's TD chain. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: gold change with maybe diamonds spelling out the name. And
Speaker 1: I could tell you as someone who grew up in
Speaker 1: and around New York, New Jersey, this is a very
Speaker 1: normal look and people shouldn't think it's different because I
Speaker 1: know a lot of men like Tommy DeVito and they
Speaker 1: all have that chain.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you know, don't shame the accessory crowd in
Speaker 3: the Tri State area for the way that they adorned themselves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Dan are they all are? Any of them
Speaker 2: football players with the word to your initials meaning touchdown?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's perfect.
Speaker 1: I've talked about my life in the Coletown a lot
Speaker 1: on this show, and there was just an uneasy existence
Speaker 1: between the Irish and the Italians. And we were all
Speaker 1: kind of in the same we all went to the
Speaker 1: same church and all that, but the Irish and the
Speaker 1: Italians were different types of dudes, and the Irish had
Speaker 1: a certain way about them and the Italians they had
Speaker 1: a certain way about him. The gold chains and stuff
Speaker 1: that was the Tommy DeVito crowd kind of makes me
Speaker 1: nostalgic for that time in my life. I kind of
Speaker 1: like seeing him. I wish you would have been allowed
Speaker 1: to throw forward pass on Sunday.
Speaker 3: It was like nineteen thirties in the Bronx, But I
Speaker 3: understand weird. Well, it wasn't exactly Gangs of New York.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there was warfare, but there was definitely
Speaker 1: a rivalry in terms of like, you know that those
Speaker 1: two you know, cultures. I wish there was like a
Speaker 1: who was the butcher from uh it was? I wish
Speaker 1: there was a butcher character that was like my dad, No,
Speaker 1: what's his name? The guy Daniel d Lewis, Like if
Speaker 1: my dad was actually the richer of Pearl River, that
Speaker 1: there would have been an additional pack.
Speaker 2: Bill the Butcher. Betty the Butcher is a rapper, you know,
Speaker 2: probably which is a takeoff and building.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely not referring to Betty the Butcher. Bet All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we'll hit the rest
Speaker 1: of the news. All Right, we're back. More injuries to
Speaker 1: so many injuries in the NFL. It feels like this year.
Speaker 1: Falcons defensive tackle Brady Jarrett suffered a torn ACL in
Speaker 1: the team's Week eight loss of the Titans. He is
Speaker 1: out for the year. He's a two time Pro bowler,
Speaker 1: a key, a key to what they do, and he's
Speaker 1: done for the year. Also after the year, Gregy Kendrick
Speaker 1: Bourne he suffered a torn ACL the Patriots wide receiver
Speaker 1: and their loss. That was from Mike Garifolo and that
Speaker 1: happened in the fourth quarter. He was having a really
Speaker 1: nice season, especially for Patriots playmakers in terms of that category,
Speaker 1: and now his season is over as well. Quite a bummer.
Speaker 2: Their offense is so tough to watch. He had the
Speaker 2: most juice of any receiver they had, along with the
Speaker 2: Mario Douglass, their rookie, so that it turned out to
Speaker 2: be a decent free agenciety. I mean, he was their
Speaker 2: second best receiver two years ago, was totally in the
Speaker 2: doghouse last year, was back out of it, and I
Speaker 2: expect he'll be gone. Grady Jarrett, though, was a bigger
Speaker 2: impact here a team competing for the playoffs, and you
Speaker 2: could see the difference they were put The Titans, who
Speaker 2: have struggled to run, were really opening up some holes
Speaker 2: in that defense. Once Jarrett was out, he's the you know,
Speaker 2: him and Ajterrell are the two best defensive players on
Speaker 2: that team. They're better than they used to be, so
Speaker 2: it's not as catastrophic, but they're pretty thin there. They
Speaker 2: have David on Yamatta who's been playing well, but that's
Speaker 2: a huge loss for Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I could see that being a trade deadline, a source
Speaker 3: of activity. I could see them bringing someone in along
Speaker 3: the line, they've been so active trying to pump up
Speaker 3: that defense and it's been good otherwise, Like.
Speaker 2: They have a ton of cap space, by the way,
Speaker 2: it's why Kyler actually would make more sense for them
Speaker 2: than almost any team, just because they've had all the
Speaker 2: cap space in the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they seem active. And like when I watched Kendrick
Speaker 3: Bourne go down as one of the ones where you
Speaker 3: knew right away he's gone. And like their list list
Speaker 3: of leading receivers was Kendrick Bourn with thirty seven catches,
Speaker 3: then the next person is Romandre Stevenson, then Hunter Henry
Speaker 3: and you mentioned to Mario Douglas he has nineteen catches
Speaker 3: on the year.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been in the doghouse. He at least
Speaker 2: unlike anyone else. He makes people miss when he gets involve.
Speaker 2: But I hear what you're saying. Kendrick Bourne was a
Speaker 2: little more of a veteran version of the Mario Douglas
Speaker 2: neither which they had a good team. They'd be the
Speaker 2: three in the four, you know, not the one in
Speaker 2: the two.
Speaker 1: Let me get some other injury stuff out of the way.
Speaker 1: There Will Levis, who he talked about briefly. He balled
Speaker 1: out against the Falcons, and he's expected to start on
Speaker 1: Thursday night in place of Ryan Tannehill, who has a
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. And you would think if Levis continues
Speaker 1: to flash, he will continue to start there. And who
Speaker 1: knows what Ryan Tannehill's future is. The Jets also so
Speaker 1: much going on in that game. They were on their
Speaker 1: fourth string center the second half of that game against
Speaker 1: the Giants, Connor McGovern their starter. He suffered a dislocated
Speaker 1: needcap out which he's out weak to week. His backup
Speaker 1: comes in and on the last couple series before he
Speaker 1: hurts his calf and he's gonna be out sometime. And
Speaker 1: this is a great tidbit for my father in law,
Speaker 1: Bob Bates, because the guy they put in as the
Speaker 1: fourth stringer and his first snap was a lost fumble
Speaker 1: and the second snap nearly went over Zach Wilson's head
Speaker 1: and threw the back of the end zone. But then
Speaker 1: he calmed down and did a great job in a
Speaker 1: really tough spot. Xavier Newman, he's a Baylor guy. That's
Speaker 1: why Bob Bates, my father in law, is all over
Speaker 1: it at BU. According to Bob Bates' text, he actually
Speaker 1: started only one game at center his entire college career,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he start he's playing in
Speaker 1: the rain in the NFL, snapping the ball, so Jets
Speaker 1: a snake bit at offensive look.
Speaker 2: And Dexter Lawrence, who might have had like one of
Speaker 2: the best days of any defensive taxles like ever that game.
Speaker 1: That game was just stupid, But shout out to the
Speaker 1: Baylor Bear for holding it down. Mike Tomlin said, Mika
Speaker 1: Fin's picked Minka Fitzpatrick. Their defensive back is out. I
Speaker 1: believe it's a hamstring and the door is quote a
Speaker 1: jar for Kenny Pickett, who was also injured in that
Speaker 1: loss of the Jaguars. Here's Tomlin on pickett status.
Speaker 5: I think the door is definitively a jar for Kenny.
Speaker 5: You know, probably a game time type decision based on
Speaker 5: the information that I'm that I'm holding here uh today
Speaker 5: with no structural damage and so forth to his ribs
Speaker 5: and so we see how we'll go through the week,
Speaker 5: his ability to throw, his level of comfort, his ability
Speaker 5: of effectiveness, et cetera. Uh, and let that be our
Speaker 5: guide in terms of determining his availability.
Speaker 2: I want Mitch. I want Mitch. On Thursday night, I
Speaker 2: want to come on, Levis. I'm not saying Mitch is
Speaker 2: gonna be good, but I think he's more entertaining to.
Speaker 1: What I think it's time. By the way, with Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 1: you know, like right like the second half of his career,
Speaker 1: like Bono just started wearing the sunglasses all the time
Speaker 1: inside and outside. I think Tomlin and these press conferences
Speaker 1: indoors to just wear the aviators because it's always like now,
Speaker 1: it's a little weird when he's not wearing them, So
Speaker 1: why not just roll with them all the time because
Speaker 1: he looks cool as hell on them.
Speaker 3: I could listen to him all day long. I think
Speaker 3: the one development that's a little interesting is that losing MIKEA. Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd say you just hardcore rest them as
Speaker 3: much as you can if it were the previous version
Speaker 3: of the Titans that we watched in London, dead and
Speaker 3: dead on arrival, on offense, but Minka Fitzpatrick being absent
Speaker 3: against what we saw from Will Levis is a factor
Speaker 3: if he's going to continue to whip the ball down
Speaker 3: feel and become operate like a super robot.
Speaker 1: Will Levis the quarterback we always wanted justin Herbert to
Speaker 1: bet get that off, all right, contract news, I don't
Speaker 1: believe that everybody shut up. The Packers give Rashan Gary
Speaker 1: a one hundred and seven million dollar extension four years.
Speaker 1: He's a pass rusher. He announced it on social media.
Speaker 1: This was the final year of his rookie deal. Former
Speaker 1: first round pick, he has been a difference maker for them.
Speaker 1: He overcame a torn acl GREGI and I guess this
Speaker 1: is a good time for Packers PR to fire out
Speaker 1: something like this because other news around the organization is
Speaker 1: not so hot.
Speaker 2: I mean, shout out to Rashan Gary for breaking this
Speaker 2: story on Twitter. What I found unique was I actually
Speaker 2: think he put the amount of money in his original tweet,
Speaker 2: you know, so it's like he's coming for your corner now.
Speaker 2: He didn't have like the signing bonus. Our guy rap
Speaker 2: sheet got there first with that. It was a thirty
Speaker 2: four million dollars sign it was But good job for Gary,
Speaker 2: he gets over one hundred million dollars. Our friend's over
Speaker 2: at the PFF podcast, Steve Pelozolo noted Rashan Gary and
Speaker 2: this was before last week, had the highest pass rush
Speaker 2: win rate of any player they've ever recorded this season.
Speaker 2: So far, like he was on pace for it probably
Speaker 2: wasn't going to maintain because early on they were being
Speaker 2: careful with them coming off of to ourn acl. But
Speaker 2: that that's how much Rashaun Gary is winning. I don't
Speaker 2: know how their defense is so bad with so many
Speaker 2: good players, but they are.
Speaker 1: So He's that they always thought Miles Garrett could be
Speaker 1: get me, Mark come at me.
Speaker 3: No that now you've now you've just gone into insane
Speaker 3: world gear.
Speaker 2: It's got posters of Rashan Gary in his room.
Speaker 3: Gary is a higher pressure percentage over the last two
Speaker 3: years than Micah Parsons and Nick Bosa. So, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, he's sort of this gem inside that defense,
Speaker 3: and they've not been really good as a group. I mean,
Speaker 3: their offense isn't helping them out.
Speaker 2: ACLS really used to take two years to recur from.
Speaker 2: I guess it's just I mean, and sometimes people come
Speaker 2: back slow, plenty of people, but sometimes they come back
Speaker 2: and they're Better'll never it never happened.
Speaker 1: I think age, Yeah, definitely factors in. But you know
Speaker 1: Ferry von Miller, now there's like a breeze hall and
Speaker 1: it's like was he even hurt those type of situations.
Speaker 2: And even von Miller the first time around. He's on
Speaker 2: his second ACL, so that's it doesn't help too.
Speaker 1: That is a thing the Bills add to their backfield.
Speaker 1: They signed playoff Lenny Fournette off the Street, where he'll
Speaker 1: join a Bill's depth chart led by starter James Cook
Speaker 1: has been very good this year. And also Latavious Murray,
Speaker 1: who I like, he's an old man that's still just
Speaker 1: go north and south, buddy and you'll be all right.
Speaker 1: TDD Johnson is also there. And now you add playoff Lenny.
Speaker 1: But I don't know where he fits in. But they
Speaker 1: you know, he's a deaf guy. He's a body this.
Speaker 3: Sage like maybe like a goal line guy for them.
Speaker 3: But I kind of if I like it at all,
Speaker 3: because it sort of mystified me. I mean, it tells
Speaker 3: me two things. One, all right, like people are whispering
Speaker 3: about Derek Henry still being available the Bills are out
Speaker 3: on that one. But also, if Leonard Fournett's going to
Speaker 3: join any team, I like him joining like in November,
Speaker 3: not like we can get him for eight or nine weeks.
Speaker 3: That's probably the best case scenario.
Speaker 2: I have a theory to hear it.
Speaker 1: The mysterious Josh Allen shoulder injury is leading to some
Speaker 1: changes to their play calling near the goal line, so
Speaker 1: they want to get somebody in there that can debangs Wild.
Speaker 2: He did finally run in that in that game. I
Speaker 2: did notice. So they started Latavius Murray and anytime they
Speaker 2: were in the hurry up, which they're they used more
Speaker 2: in that game, almost used primarily. And Alan talked afterwards like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see, maybe we'll do a lot
Speaker 2: of that. So maybe maybe Fordett is an upgrade on
Speaker 2: Latavius Murray as like the hurry up back. For some reason,
Speaker 2: they don't like using James Cook for that.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. All Right, you mentioned it, Mark,
Speaker 1: So let's circle back with the trade deadline twenty four
Speaker 1: hours away. Derrick Henry is still available, despite you know,
Speaker 1: some things coming out of Tennessee. He is still available,
Speaker 1: according to Jake Glazer, who is plugged in on such matters.
Speaker 1: So if you really want Derek Henry, there's probably a
Speaker 1: pretty decent chance he can be had if you give
Speaker 1: up what the Titans are looking for, which is probably
Speaker 1: a fairly nice draft pick. And another report out there
Speaker 1: is that there is a team a mystery team that
Speaker 1: has offered the Commander is a conditional second round pick
Speaker 1: for Montes sweat I think this is interesting because you've
Speaker 1: heard Chase Young's name put out there more in terms
Speaker 1: of the Washington Pass rush. Sure that could go at
Speaker 1: the deadline, but Mike Grifolo said on our show last
Speaker 1: week that either could be had. It just depends on
Speaker 1: what is the better offer. So Young and Sweaty could
Speaker 1: be gone. Young or Sweaty could be gone or neither.
Speaker 3: Florio, not our Florio, but at PFTUS Mike Florio had
Speaker 3: some information that the Falcons were sniffing around one of
Speaker 3: these players, So I mean that kind of makes sense
Speaker 3: with what we talked about before, especially post injury. It's
Speaker 3: I kind of find this whole Commander's thing interesting, where
Speaker 3: they're like, we're getting rid of one of these guys.
Speaker 3: We're not sure which, but one of these guys is
Speaker 3: going to be off our roster, like why, and we've
Speaker 3: already discussed like who the heck is making this decision
Speaker 3: or this order. But I don't know, I want to
Speaker 3: be post like confusing commander stuff, and this feels confusing
Speaker 3: to me. I don't quite get why you have to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was hoping for it based on the time
Speaker 2: we were taping this. Eric Roberts behind you know the virtual screen.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been watching this, but I
Speaker 2: need some breaking news. Eric, we have a t trade.
Speaker 2: We have a trade. Hit me with that break. The
Speaker 2: Giants are finalizing a deal, according to our guy, Ian Rapaport,
Speaker 2: breaking that news to send Pro Bowl defensive lineman Leonard
Speaker 2: Williams to the Seahawks. According to rap Sheet and Mike Garifolo,
Speaker 2: Lenny Williams to Seattle.
Speaker 1: Here there you go. I mean you want to talk
Speaker 1: about I said, speaking of that conversation with Garifolo, you
Speaker 1: know we're talking about how much things can change just
Speaker 1: based on the outcomes of Sunday and the Giants losing
Speaker 1: a game that they had a ninety nine percent chance
Speaker 1: of winning. I think absolutely plays a role here in
Speaker 1: them saying, you know what we done, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of our second best defensive lineman, maybe third
Speaker 1: now with Kavon really emerging along that line. But Leonard
Speaker 1: Williams is always He was a good player on the Jets,
Speaker 1: he became a great player on the Giants, and he
Speaker 1: definitely will fill a need mark for a Seattle team
Speaker 1: that needs some help in the trenches on defense.
Speaker 3: I like it for them. I don't like it for
Speaker 3: Williams in the sense that he did the very savvy
Speaker 3: thing where while he's played for two teams, he probably
Speaker 3: didn't need to move his residence just by operating for
Speaker 3: the Jets and Giants. But now you're getting sent about
Speaker 3: as far away as you can geographically, but you're being
Speaker 3: sent to a team that suddenly and surprisingly leads the
Speaker 3: NFC West after the swoon of the Niners.
Speaker 2: So fortune's up and Ian in the tweet mentions, gives
Speaker 2: them some flight financial flexibility as a primary motivator. So
Speaker 2: that's interesting. Like for Saquon I guess, or for who
Speaker 2: knows Lendar, Williams is a free agent, so this is
Speaker 2: more of a rental. He's I think thirty thirty one.
Speaker 2: He's not the player he used to be, but is
Speaker 2: still a good player. Seattle, you know, might be looking
Speaker 2: to sign him to a mid you know, a short
Speaker 2: term contract after this, because they are sending according to
Speaker 2: pell Razer, and we got the we got the skinny
Speaker 2: on the battle between these two insiders. Now I see
Speaker 2: they tweeted it out basically the same time. I think
Speaker 2: Ian barely beat him. But Tom has the trade terms,
Speaker 2: so that's interesting. Tom gets the trade terms, but Ian
Speaker 2: wins by like twenty seconds. When will this ever end?
Speaker 2: It's a twenty twenty four second in a twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five to fifth So that fake trade Colleen tried to
Speaker 2: send out there where she was just like asking for
Speaker 2: like a fifth round pick for Leonard Williams or something,
Speaker 2: and you scoffed at her, Dan, that was right to scoff.
Speaker 2: They got a lot more. They got a second round pick.
Speaker 1: That is a good return. Yeah, and that is uh.
Speaker 1: I mean that just seems like a very difficult existence,
Speaker 1: the insider war. Will you imagine the semantics.
Speaker 3: Of it all? Well, what can you imagine if zastly
Speaker 3: our responsibilities flipped and the three of us had to
Speaker 3: compete with each other to break news and parse up
Speaker 3: breaking news. I mean, we'd be in tatters and about.
Speaker 1: I'm the ATN insider, so I actually lived in both worlds,
Speaker 1: but I do it a little bit different than the
Speaker 1: Pella Sero's and the rappaports of the world. Just put
Speaker 1: it that way.
Speaker 2: You're insider, You're not, You're not like you know, Sham's and.
Speaker 3: I would never well for starters.
Speaker 1: If my media group ever said you have to be
Speaker 1: a co insider, I'm walking like, I'm gone, Like.
Speaker 2: Don't they all have to do that? Almost like Schefter
Speaker 2: had more with him for a while.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, there's always a lead dog. Fair Ian's
Speaker 1: our lead dog. But if they if I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the here are the two tweets, and we're going
Speaker 1: to change the wording here, and we're going to change
Speaker 1: a participle here, I'm out. I'm gone. Okay, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: at Yahoo the next morning. Okay, hello Athletic, it's me.
Speaker 1: Do you want an insider? I work alone inside.
Speaker 3: I like that, And I also like the idea of
Speaker 3: like this immense career retrospective that's coming down the pipe
Speaker 3: for you at some point. That is just one of
Speaker 3: the sort of the way that it's marketed is the
Speaker 3: gentle insider.
Speaker 2: I do really like that. Quickly on the Seahawks, by
Speaker 2: the way, I've been meaning to throw this stick. I
Speaker 2: really think they have a higher ceiling right now than
Speaker 2: I expected going into the year because their defense is
Speaker 2: so much more capable. They're not going to be a
Speaker 2: shutdown defense, but they have so many playmakers. I think
Speaker 2: some games they're really gonna pop off, like different guys
Speaker 2: just making plays. I think it's the best Seas defense
Speaker 2: in seven or eight years. The offense hasn't totally clicked,
Speaker 2: you know, but they have talent there. I think their
Speaker 2: ceiling is a little higher than I expected. And this
Speaker 2: is a nice move. They lost to Chennon Nuosu, who's
Speaker 2: an edge rusher, and I know Leonard Williams is in
Speaker 2: the interior, but they were quite thin on the interior.
Speaker 2: This this is a team that's pushing now. Pete Carroll's
Speaker 2: getting up there in the year like this is a window.
Speaker 2: I think they think they can go make a run
Speaker 2: at it this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Niners are obviously vulnerable. They're on a three
Speaker 1: game losing streak. They'll they're not gonna fall off the cliff,
Speaker 1: but they they have proven they are far from some
Speaker 1: type of, you know, decades spanning dominant team. The Eagles
Speaker 1: are winning for the most part, but we know that
Speaker 1: they haven't been a perfect operation either. And then after that,
Speaker 1: I mean, the Lions are obviously very good team, but
Speaker 1: they've shown themselves to be vulnerable cowboy dam thing. It's
Speaker 1: it's a wide open NFC. So I think it's a
Speaker 1: trade giving up a second round pick that is that's
Speaker 1: pricey and the and the Seahawks have been heart before
Speaker 1: looking for that one final piece on d H and
Speaker 1: giving up high draft assets. But this one I think
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. And Williams, I bet will
Speaker 1: be excited to play with that team, so good one
Speaker 1: makes sense for both sides. And I'm and you're right.
Speaker 1: I think the takeaway about the finally changing his address
Speaker 1: is notable Mark and should be a conversation point as well.
Speaker 2: Beautiful well in area of the country though Mark maybe
Speaker 2: expand his horizons, you know, you ever hear aputes it
Speaker 2: sound like he live like he on the water.
Speaker 3: You know he's also it's not the same as when
Speaker 3: you know, some Joe Blow has to travel across the
Speaker 3: country to get a job and you know, pay for
Speaker 3: it themselves. This guy's like a multi millionaire. I'm sure,
Speaker 3: like nice moving trucks will come and move all sorts
Speaker 3: of gold chains and big boxes of you know, treasure,
Speaker 3: like from east to west.
Speaker 1: So he actually has like old school cartoon treasure chests
Speaker 1: that were found at the bottom of oceans. The centsions
Speaker 1: it's possible. Finally, in the news, it's a good little
Speaker 1: newsy thing. Eric Roberts, we gotta slap that headline on there.
Speaker 1: This from Front Office Sports.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: The NFL has demanded that the University of Houston stop
Speaker 1: unauthorized use of the oilers trademarked love You Blue uniform.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And here it is if you're watching on YouTube. It
Speaker 1: is obviously a callback to the old Love You Blue
Speaker 1: oilers era. Checkout Chris Westling's love You a Blue feature
Speaker 1: he wrote years back for our site. It was excellent. Anyway,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things going on here. First of all,
Speaker 1: the Gonads of the Tennessee Titans, imagine Mark and I
Speaker 1: understand this situation was different because it was so contentious
Speaker 1: when the Browns were taken from Cleveland that the Browns
Speaker 1: won the right to keep all their ip so the
Speaker 1: Ravens could never do something like have a throwback in
Speaker 1: Baltimore wearing Brown's orange, which is confusing, but that's the
Speaker 1: way it is there, so that couldn't happen. But the
Speaker 1: idea that you would ever want to do that, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm watching the only thing I didn't like about Will
Speaker 1: Levis's debut is that he's wearing the uniform of a
Speaker 1: team that was ripped from a city. And that is
Speaker 1: a salty reality for Houston football fans that now have
Speaker 1: the Texans but missed the Oilers and those beautiful get ups.
Speaker 1: So we got two things, two levels bothering me. One
Speaker 1: that that happened at all, and you should, if you should,
Speaker 1: have the good sense if you leave a city behind
Speaker 1: and all their fans not to antagonize them from a
Speaker 1: thousand miles away. And two, now the NFL is saying
Speaker 1: to this this Houston area that still has a lot
Speaker 1: of pride about those old Oilers teams that you don't
Speaker 1: even get to call back to that for your local college.
Speaker 3: Just come on, guys, can we just clean up the
Speaker 3: entire operation?
Speaker 1: End of rant?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like for me, the levels of absurdity up top
Speaker 3: are trying to go at the University of Houston in
Speaker 3: regards to a uniform that was attached to a team
Speaker 3: that the NFL did very little to prevent from moving.
Speaker 3: The whole thing went down in a way where it
Speaker 3: was a little bit different than Cleveland. If it was
Speaker 3: sort of a wet fart. It happened a year after
Speaker 3: the Browns were pulled to Baltimore, and the Houston civic
Speaker 3: uproar was not the same. But this next level of
Speaker 3: absurdity is the Titans doing that. The only thing that
Speaker 3: I'm torn about is that, you know, we have our
Speaker 3: childhood football worlds and those old type, those old Oilers
Speaker 3: uniforms were wonderful to watch, so I kind of love
Speaker 3: seeing it in them in action, but the way that
Speaker 3: it came to us is problematic.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: Also, this is picking a knit here, but those uniforms
Speaker 2: look quite a bit like the well regarded, well reviewed
Speaker 2: two lane University blue unis. They broke out a little
Speaker 2: bit in former aac rival two lane, so they're trying
Speaker 2: to copy two lanes, nice clean unis. But let let
Speaker 2: Houston wear I'm with you, good.
Speaker 1: Rant, all right? That was insane. That was an insane
Speaker 1: little addendum there, Greg, top.
Speaker 2: Twenty five team. Baby, you know, let's enjoy it while
Speaker 2: we can here.
Speaker 1: All right, there's what's happening in the news. Yes, so
Speaker 1: we needed to jump in obviously, so much to get
Speaker 1: to including a breaking new whose trade Leonard Williams fortifying
Speaker 1: that front seven in Seattle and the Giants looking ahead
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four and beyond. We'll be back later
Speaker 1: tonight with a recap of Monday Night football, a matchup
Speaker 1: between Mark.
Speaker 3: The Raiders and the Lions of Detroit.
Speaker 1: There you go, so make sure you check that out.
Speaker 1: And that's it for now. All right, we all have
Speaker 1: to head into the studio. Now we've got to do
Speaker 1: an NFL Plus recording. They're getting their money's worth here.
Speaker 1: Heed the call.