1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Gloomberg to Washington, d C, 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Bloomber to Boston, Bloomberg twelve hundreds to San Francisco, Bloomberg 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: nine six to the Country Series Channel one ninety and 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: around the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus Bloomberg dot Com. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Surveinglets Good Morning at seven thirty on 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Wall Street and Michael McGee along with Tom Keane. It 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: is a mini merger Monday. So far we got a 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: couple of deals. Feiser going to buy Antacore Pharmaceuticals. They 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: are spending five point two billion dollars to do that, 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: and a couple of exploration and production companies in the 11 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: oil space getting together. Range Resources is going to buy 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: Memorial Resources. That's a three point three billion dollars stock deal. 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: They're also assuming one point one billion dollars in debts, 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: so the total value of the deal four point for billion. 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: New York Times reporting Warren Buffett and Dan Gilbert, the 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: founder of Quick and Longs, teaming up in a bid 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: for Yahoo. They've made it to the second round of bidding. Um. 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: Mr Buffet's conglomerate Berkshire Hathaway going to provide financing like 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: he did. You remember when they teamed with the Three 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: G Capital to take over h J, Hines and Craft. 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: He's going to leave the negotiations and the deal with 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: Yahoo to Mr Gilbert. Let's check out with Michael Barr 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Now the latest world and national headlines. Michael Fank, thank 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: you very much. Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump says 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: it does not look like he's going to have a 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: very good relationship with British from Minister David Cameron. Trump's 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: comments were broadcast today on I t V s Good 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Morning Britain. Trump is still unhappy with Cameron's criticism of 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: him after Trump's call for all Muslims to be temporarily 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: banned from entering the US. In the interview, Trump also 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: called London's new mayor City Cohn rude for calling him ignorant. 32 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are giving up for tomorrow's 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: primaries in Kentucky and Oregon. Clinton and Sanders campaign and 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: the Bluegrass State. Yesterday, Turkish shelling and airstrikes by the 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: US led military coalition have killed twenty seven Islamic State 36 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: militants in Syria. The US, Japan, and South Korea will 37 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: hold their first joint military exercises and at tracking North 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: Korean missiles. All three nations will send destroyers to participate 39 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: in the drills in waters off Hawaii. In late June, 40 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Global News twenty four hours a day, powered by were 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: twenty four hundred journalists and more than a hundred fifty 42 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: news buraus from around the world. Now, michael'bar mine, Thank you, Michael. 43 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: Time now for the Landrover Paricipani Bloomberg NBC Sports Update 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: with John Stash, Thanks Mike. The Yankees were struggling but 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: have seemingly corrected some problems with a seven and three 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: homestand the Mets meanwhile, we're winning and then went four 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: and seven on the road. They've gone from first place 48 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: down to third. They got swept at Colorado, losing four 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: to three. Mets had a three one leave but Carlos 50 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: Gonzalez homeward in the sixth naing Ryan Rayburn won it 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: in the seventh for the Rockies with a pinch hit 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: to run shot Yankster at home runs from Brian McCann. 53 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Carlos Beltron beat the White Sox seven five for Beltron's 54 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: career home run number four hundred NBA Playoffs Toronto followed 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: the same script as Round one. Losing games won four 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: and six, but winning games two, three, five, and seven, 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: Raptors pulled away from Miami. They won the fourth quarter 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: of thirty to eleven. They won Game seven, one, six 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: eighty nine. It will be much tougher in the East 60 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Finals against Cleveland. Phil Jackson, criticized for not considering someone 61 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: other than Kurt Rambis, will speak with ex Pacers coach 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: Frank Vogel about coaching the Knicks. Game one of the 63 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: NHL's West Finals, the St. Louis two one over Sandusey 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Jason Day wire to wire win Players Championship, third win 65 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: this year for the world number one. Day finished fifteen 66 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: under par and won by four shots. With the Bloomberg 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: NBC Sports Zone, I'm Johnson, Yeah, we don't think enough 68 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: for about golf and how nice it would be to 69 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: pre professional golfer and playing nice weather, which we have 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: not had here in the Northeast this spring. So far, 71 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: we're seeing a little green on the screen though. SMP 72 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: features up by a point right now, DAL features up 73 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: by three, NASDAQ features up by six. As we get 74 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: ready for the first day of trading on this week. 75 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: This is slumberk Surveillance. I'm Michael McKee along with Tom 76 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: Keane Oil. The story of the day in the markets, 77 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Brent crewed up two percent, West Texas sixteen up to 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: as well, closing in on fifty dollars. Haven't been there 79 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: since November. We will keep an eye on it, of course, 80 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: and keep you informed of every significant move. But now 81 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna turn to Bob Moon and the n j 82 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: I T STEM Report, brought to you by a New 83 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: Jersey Institute of Technology, investing more than a hundred and 84 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: ten million dollars a year and applied research to solve 85 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: problems and improve life. Learn more Stories of Innovation Dot, 86 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: n j I T DOT E d U POP Michael, 87 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: Good morning. Here's what's making news and science, technology, engine, 88 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: ring and math. A Boston hospital confirms the story first 89 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: reported by The New York Times today that a cancer 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: patient has received the first penis transplant in the United States. 91 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: Massachusetts General Hospital says today that a sixty four year 92 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: old patient from Halifax, Massachusetts, received the transplant of an 93 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: organ from a deceased donor in a fifteen hour procedure 94 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: last week. The Times reports it's part of a program 95 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: that ultimately aims to help combat veterans. A gene editing 96 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: tool known as Crisper has become the must have technology 97 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: in genetic engineering, and Biogen has let it be known 98 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: that it's in early discussions with companies to get its 99 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: own access to the technology. Biogen's head of cell and 100 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: gene Therapy says Crisper is clearly a must have to 101 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: gain greater expertise in gene therapy, and the company is 102 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: talking about potential deals with some companies that have Crisper tools. 103 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: He didn't specify the nature or scope of the potential 104 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: deals or the companies in the discussions. The appeal of 105 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: Crisper is its low cost and ease abuse in slicing 106 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: out flawed portions of DNA or even replacing them with 107 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: useful strands. Drug makers, including novartists, Regenera, on Pharmaceuticals, Johnson 108 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: and Johnson, and Beer already obstruct deals with Crisper companies. 109 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: And that's this morning's Bloomberg and j I T Stem Report. Michael, 110 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: all right, thank you very much, Bob moon. Well, it's 111 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: deadline day for companies to file their thirteen FS. What 112 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: did they buy? In the most recent quarter Berkshire apparently 113 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: buying Apple nine point eight one million shares in Apple. 114 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: According to their thirteen f UH no longer shows any 115 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: stakes in H, A, T and T. So we'll continue 116 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: to follow the release of the thirteen fs as the 117 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: day goes on. Berkshire Hathaway out with theirs, and if 118 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: they have any more interesting investments, we will pass those along. 119 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned oil prices a second ago. The reason I 120 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: did that is because we're going now to Thomas McDonald 121 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: of Jaguar Growth Partners. He's managing partner there. They specifically 122 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: invest in Latin America and front and center in Latin 123 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: America today Venezuela, where the President has declared a state 124 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: of emergency and has ordered the seizure of factories that 125 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: have stopped production and the jailing of their owners. That 126 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: came after a company that produces beer stopped producing beer 127 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: because they couldn't get any hops because the government prohibited it. 128 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: So leaving aside the inanity of that all, uh, Thomas Uh. 129 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: We were talking earlier today with Pique Burliger from Pique 130 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: Vurlger Associates, and he said one of the things that's 131 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: really affecting the oil market these days, is the collapse 132 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: of Venezuelan production. What is going on with that country 133 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: or are we about to see them uh implode default. 134 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what they have out there, but what's 135 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: the risk from Venezuela right now? Well, thanks Michael, very 136 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: good to speak to you again. Venezuela unfortunately has continued, 137 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: uh now for over the past fifteen years, a path 138 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: with with very um difficult solutions required to for them 139 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: to turn things around. As you mentioned, the state of 140 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: emergency that was declared today as an extension of a 141 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: state of emerging put in place a couple of months ago, 142 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: which you know, certainly, according to some people in Venezuela's 143 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: by definition illegal. What it doing is giving the company, 144 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: the country and the government the ability to appropriate and 145 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: really take measures into their own hands. Not good, certainly 146 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: from a social perspective. The economy is in ruins and 147 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: has been for years. I think, uh, they're you know, 148 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: trading partners in the relative recent pasts have been Cuba 149 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: and China. US exposure is very limited and has become 150 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: less so certainly over the fat last fifteen years. With 151 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of of Hugo Chaves and continuation of of 152 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: the now President Maduto. So it's it's um, it's uneasy 153 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: territory absolutely for Venezuela. It's really Venezuela is I would say, uh, 154 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: in many ways very different now and kind of the 155 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: the outcast and an outlier of what's happening in the 156 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: rest of Latin America, which is of course good news 157 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: for everybody. UM, including Columbia is certainly that benefited from 158 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: really a brain drain from Venezuela as it related to 159 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: folks working in the oil and gas industries. They moved 160 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: over beginning and again in the early two thousands of Colombia. Uh. 161 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: Political stability in the rest of the region, and unclear 162 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: really what's going to happen in Venezuela, but certainly not 163 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: good situation today. We gotta take a break in just 164 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: a minute. It very quickly. Suppose Maduro leaves, would you 165 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: invest in a new Venezuelan government, Well, we would need 166 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: for not only Maduto to leave, but to understand who 167 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: comes in in the case specifically in Venezuela. Again, unfortunately 168 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: for them, they have not been able to organize a 169 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: concentrated opposition and as a results have not been able 170 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: to lay out appropriate reforms plans and institute uh a 171 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: platform that that you can get your arms around. We 172 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: would need not only from Maduto to leave, but also 173 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: for a solid opposition to be in place with a 174 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: very clear path to resolving some major issues that are 175 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: are need to be fixed in order for the way 176 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: to get back on its feet. Well, let's come back 177 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,599 Speaker 1: with Thomas McDonald from Jaguar Growth Partners. No change in 178 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: the Venezuelan government yet, but certainly a lot of change 179 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: in other Latin American governments, in Argentina and in Brazil. Absolutely, 180 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Venezuela the news over the weekend, it was just grim. 181 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: No other way to paint it here again one thirty 182 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: sharing this morning on Venezuela's stay with as Bloomberg Surveillance. 183 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Aveillance is brought to you by n y C 184 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: d ask about their my community interest checking with free 185 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: New York Community Bank online and mobile banking. Earn more, 186 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: get more. Visit my NYCB dot com for details. 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According to 197 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: a regulatory filing, the whole thing was valued at more 198 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: than one billion dollars at the end of the first quarter, 199 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: and Apple shares are up two point two per cent 200 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: this morning. Fiser agreed to acquire anac Are Pharmaceuticals and 201 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: a transaction valued at about five point two billion dollars 202 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: to gain control of an experimental treatment for a skin 203 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: condition known as egzima, and a core is up fifty 204 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: four percent this morning. Range Resources, the Texas based natural 205 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: gas producer, and grain to buy Memorial Resource Development in 206 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: a three point three billion dollar all stock deal. And 207 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: Gannette escalating his hostile takeover for a Tribune Publishing raising 208 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: it's all cash offer for the owner of the Chicago Tribune. 209 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: In Los Angeles, Times to about eight hundred sixty four 210 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: million dollars in Tribune up twenty two percent. This morning 211 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: smp E many futures up two and a half points 212 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: now e many futures have fourteen NASDA give any futures 213 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: up eleven ten year Treasury down five thirty seconds, the 214 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: yield one point seven one percent. Nimex screwed oil up 215 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: two point two percent or one dollar to forty seven 216 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: twenty one A barrel Comex gold up a ten percent 217 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: or ten dollars fifty cents to twelve eighty three twenty 218 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: announced the euro dollar thirteen seventeen the yen one oh 219 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: eight point nine four. As a Bloomberg business flash, Tom 220 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: and Mike Karen thanks so much as you for Dennis 221 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: Gartman say many times there's something comforting about stuff. If 222 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: you drop it, and you drop it on your foot, 223 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: it hurts you. Thomas McDonald is with Jaguar Growth Partners 224 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: looking at Latin America, and he does this through the 225 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: prism of his previous employment a few years ago with Annexed. 226 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: They make stuff that if you drop it on your foot, 227 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: it hurts. Thomas McDonald can South America generate a manufacturing 228 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: economy and critically, is it the first symbol that the 229 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: next five years or ten years they can stay not 230 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: within but generate that economy out to a global export juggernaut. Michael, thanks, 231 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: very good question, very funny. I haven't heard Annixter described 232 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: that way before, but Tom sure my friends got to 233 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: chuckle out of that. Um Well, I think the answer. 234 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: The answer is yes, long term. However, uh, in important 235 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: things have to happen in advance of that kind of 236 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: manufacturing base getting established and providing not only export, but also, 237 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: I would say as importantly manufacturing for local consumption, which 238 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: we can talk about um in the case for example 239 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: today of of Brazil and in Argentina. Interesting corallarias I'd say, 240 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: Argentina is is probably six months ahead. They had the land, 241 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: the historic election of Makari, which was a great, uh 242 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, historical milestone. And yet what really matters is 243 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: what happened after that. Well, I agree with that, but 244 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: but the basic idea is it's a north south axis 245 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: and granted commodities had a lot to push against that, 246 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: and it helps South America look out in broader from 247 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: where you sit, is there regenerational change for South America? 248 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: I guess to look north, but far more importantly to 249 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: look east and west, up to the left and up 250 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: to the right. Generational change. Yes, However, significant reforms have 251 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: to take place, historic reforms that have been needed since 252 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: the Parentus Idea era in in Argentina and certainly over 253 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: the last twenty to thirty years in Brasilt specifically social security, 254 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: fiscal and label labor reforms need to be need to 255 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: be uh, need to occur, and frankly, the best time 256 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: for these events to occur is today, when things are 257 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: going well. Heavy painful reforms are never enacted, and yet 258 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: you've got political momentum, political support. UH. The question is 259 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: how will society react. The impact of the early reforms, 260 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: The tariff eliminations and pricing subsidy eliminations that have occurred 261 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: in Argentina over the last three or four months are 262 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: being felt by people who are now paying for electricity, 263 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: paying for water effectively, and inflation is up twenties thirty percent. 264 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: The expectation is that that's going to taper off over 265 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: the next couple of months, but that's a heavy burden 266 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: for the society and the consumption class to bear in 267 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: order for the broader reforms to take place and get momentum. 268 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: You need to get over this hump in Brazil is 269 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: in the first any Dilma's out stair isn't necessary and 270 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: historic milestone, that's great. What really matters is what PEMIN 271 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: is able to do over the next really three to 272 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: six months, which can happen while Dilma is working through 273 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: her defense early signals again literally since the vote took 274 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: place Thursday morning, we were in uh S. I'll follow 275 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: last week. It was very interesting, it was historic, but 276 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: but but that's that's really noise. What has to happen 277 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: is the ministers that have been put in place, and 278 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: think of the finance miner, very minister, very good signal. 279 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: He over the weekend announced uh really nominal stability of 280 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: physical expenditures in the short term. That's slightly better than expected. 281 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: They've got to work on social security reform again, labor 282 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: and fiscal reform, and if we see things happen in 283 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: the next two to four or five months, that bodes 284 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: very well for the near medium and certainly long term 285 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: for Brazil. Your your point about the export opportunity is 286 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: very important, no question about it. However, what really matters 287 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: for these countries, and you've already seen it in Mexico. 288 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: To bring it further north. When we began investing in 289 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: Mexico and near late nineties early two thousand's, the majority 290 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: of the manufacturing there was export based. It was first 291 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: to the US and then elsewhere. China came in lower 292 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: labor costs. UH, and that that took away some of 293 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: the manufacturing activity from Mexico. The good news from Mexico, 294 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: the middle class grew and now the manufacturing is roughly 295 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: fifty fifty domestic consumption and export. That's a healthier business 296 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: man for any of these countries. Uh. It's going to 297 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: take time, but that's I think what they really want 298 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: to strive for is and and certainly the numbers in 299 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: the case of Brazil, ten million families have come into 300 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: the middle class over the last ten millionaires. That's forty 301 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: million people of the population who before never bought a house, 302 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: never bought a car, never bought white goods, never had 303 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: any consumer finance. Those are drivers of the economy that 304 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: are really longer term, more important. And Thomas McDonald was 305 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: ja Growth Products Partners right there. Michael. The question I 306 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: always asked this morning by somebody and you're going to 307 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: be a better position to answer this that I am 308 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: is how important are the Olympics to Brazil given the 309 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: change in government and given all the concerns about pollution 310 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: and the zeke virus, Well, those are the pollution, zekea 311 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: virus absolutely are issues that are are headwinds for this Olympics. 312 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: I I and I think it's it's really unfortunate that 313 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't think the Olympics are going to be a 314 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: significant event for Brasil, and they should have been, they 315 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: could have been, and this will be go down I 316 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: think in history as a real lost opportunity for Brazil. 317 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: The real beneficiaries long term, medium term will be the 318 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: residents of Rio because despite poor spending, poor management there 319 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: there will be things are things being done to the 320 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: physical infrastructure and physical plant of the city of Rio 321 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: that otherwise would have never been done that will benefit 322 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: And at the at the end of the day, that's 323 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: really it. I think Brazil is a country that people 324 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: are fantastic, They'll be great hosts. Um they'll manage this, 325 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: I think, despite certainly the political turmoil, but but it 326 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: will not register. I don't think anything significant unfortunately. Again, 327 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: I think for for real, real and Brazil lost opportunity 328 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: about the northern parts of South America. Um, you know, 329 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: your Columbia's and countries like that, they get kind of 330 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: lost in the in the story because there's so much 331 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: going on down with Argentina and Brazil and of course Venezuelans. Yes, 332 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: well they are, they're kind of under the radar. For 333 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: I think for many folks, we we really think highly 334 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: of the Indian region generally, which really encompasses Columbia, Peru, 335 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: and then uh to to some extent Chile, although Chile 336 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: is a much more developed uh and as a result, 337 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: much more efficient, much more expensive market. But if you 338 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: combine really Colombia, Peru and Chile, you've got population similar 339 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: to that of Mexico, uh more, much more so than 340 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: that of Argentina. You in our world, we think about 341 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: it as a region, though none of the none of 342 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: the cities or countries on our own are large enough 343 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: and yet historically very stable growth, relatively politically relative political stability. 344 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: In the case of Colombia. Um, the drain brain that 345 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: they experienced that the brain drains are they experienced in 346 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: the in the eighties, which was really driven by concerns 347 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: about security has flipped. And what you see now over 348 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: the last probably eight or so years is an influx 349 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: of really talented people, not only as I mentioned before, 350 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: Venezuela's related specifically to their own gas sector, but really 351 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: from the US and Europe that we're educated and worked 352 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: up here, have great skills, experience coming back because of 353 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: loyalty and patriotic reasons. Really right and so really very 354 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: very well educated. Uh, not only executive class, but also 355 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: in the government. Thank you so much, Thomas McDonald with 356 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: his Cheguar Growth partners. Mike, I was just not transfixed. 357 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: It's not the right word. The horror and that's the 358 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: that's the right word for the medical and health conditions 359 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: in Venezuela. You wonder what the International group is going 360 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: to help, Well, there's nothing you can do. They won't 361 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: let money in. So yeah, fortunately, but it is there somehow. 362 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: We'll be talking about that address more. We'll call upon 363 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: some of our good guests on Latin America here in 364 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: the coming days. Futures up three, down, features up eleven. 365 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: The yield curve, well, it was curve flattening earlier. It's 366 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: actually turned around a little bit. One point seven on 367 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: the tenure of the two year point seven seven percent. 368 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: Michael McKee and Tom Keena, You're Monday. Bloomberg surveillance