1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They call 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our superproducer Paul, 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: Mission controlled dec and most importantly, you are you. You 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: are here, and that makes this the stuff they don't 9 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: want you to know. Oh well, it's been a pretty 10 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: interesting couple of weeks for us over here, fellow conspiracy realists. 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Our collective day to day has been kind of like 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: a never ending action montage, and for many of us 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: listening today, the modern world is one example of that. 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes it feels like you never get a break, despite 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: what the kit Cat commercials would have you believe, and 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: there's there's never enough time to do the things you 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: want to do or to do the things you need 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: to do. You know, we've got a lot of people 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: with kids in the audience to date not not know 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: you both are fathers yourselves, And do you ever get 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: to a point where you're like, I've gotta I gotta 22 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: feed this kid I gotta do something, who's gonna you know, 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: but I also have to do these other twelve things 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: before I cook. YEP, I call that nug time. Well yeah, 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: and it really is a problem because as a parent, 26 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: you want to feed your child the healthiest thing you 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: possibly can, but that takes time a lot of the time. No, no, no, 28 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: no, no no, that's accurate, Matt. But not only that. Like, 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of nonparents out there 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: know this, but kids are very picky eaters. And my 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: kid's diet consists largely of things that I hide and 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: a ghetty, uh, and spaghetti and chicken nuggets. Try to 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: get the organic ones, you know, from the store, but 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: occasionally we'll go for those you know, weird molded McDonald's nugs, 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: which I think you're delicious, But um, there's a whole 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: lot to do that. Yeah, and those there, there's a 37 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: whole lot to those nuggets. Specifically, we have a poultry 38 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: episode in the future, don't we. But uh, this this 39 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: is something that doesn't just apply to those of us 40 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: in the audience who have children. This applies to everybody 41 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: who lives in most of modern society. I mean, consider 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: that post industrial age, people have regimented lunch breaks, right 43 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: if they're lucky enough to have a lunch break at all, uh, 44 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: And that's that means that at some point you'll have 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: what thirty minutes to eat and if you are like 46 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: many many people, that's just enough time to run to 47 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: the closest, fastest thing, and you know that sells stuff 48 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: to shove in your mouth. Shove that in your mouth, 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: and then maybe use the restroom, will wash your hands 50 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: before you go back to making widgets. And then you 51 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, you have the alternative, which is you could 52 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: take out of your personal your free time another you know, 53 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: thirty minutes whatever to make yourself something to brown bag 54 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: into work. What we're saying is that people have historically 55 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: felt like there were not enough hours in the day 56 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: at some point, and this has only accelerated in the 57 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: modern age, which is, you know, if you're listening to 58 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: this podcast when it comes out, or if you're listening 59 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: to it hundreds of years from now. We hope it 60 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: doesn't sound silly when we call this the modern age, 61 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: but that's where we're at. Since ancient times, human beings 62 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: have been searching for more convenient solutions to this problem. 63 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Of time in terms of like the necessity people have 64 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: to satisfy every twenty four hours. Food is no exception. 65 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: And that is why today all the conspiracy realist we're 66 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: talking about fast food. Uh, here are the facts. And 67 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: this is also, by the way, a side plug for 68 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: our weekly Strange News segment. Yeah. Recently we talked about 69 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: a new installation of sorts and historical installation that's going 70 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: to be available for tourists in Pompeii. It's just a 71 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: great example of an early fast food like store or 72 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: a stall right where you could quickly go up to 73 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: a counter, get what you needed in food form, and 74 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: then take it away. And it was just fascinating for 75 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: us to look at that something that exists for us 76 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: right now still existed two thousand years ago, not in 77 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: exactly the same form, but in a similar enough way 78 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: that we could recognize it easily. And uh, it made 79 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: us think about the future for sure. Yeah, Thermo Polium 80 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: I think it was called, right, Uh, hot food and 81 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: drink shop. That was the one where if the wine 82 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: was tasting off, they had these fermented fava beans they 83 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: would throw it. So people were still trying to get 84 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: over on each other even back then. You know, one 85 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: thing this reminds me of two in terms of fast 86 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: food is something that we've come across in our other show, 87 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: Been Ridiculous History. There was something, I think it was 88 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: called like forever stew where like taverns would literally just 89 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: have this constant boiling pot of whatever and they would 90 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: just add to it and it never depleted. They would 91 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: just keep putting garbage into it, and people would just 92 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: get a lad love it when they'd come in and 93 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: stay for the night. But it like literally was just 94 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: out all the time. Um. And that's you know, not 95 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: too far off form what's done in fast food restaurants. 96 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, obviously there are sanitary more sanitary conditions 97 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: and protocols and all of that, but you know, it's 98 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: the same deal with if you think about like the 99 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: burgers that stay out under those heat lamps you know, 100 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: all day, or the nugs that stay in those like 101 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: giant bins or those trays and those like racks. Yeah, 102 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: and it's really interesting, you guys. Yeah, I see exactly 103 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: what you're saying there, and all I just was trying 104 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: to visualize this, Ben, and I want to put this 105 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: out there, see what you think about this picture I 106 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: want to paint because we're really talking about as humans 107 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: go from gathered somewhere in a small even a village 108 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: like before, village very a very small amount of area 109 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: covered by the group of humans living in one place, 110 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: and the food sources are usually right outside of that 111 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: area or even within contained within in some places where 112 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: if you've got you know, cattle or sheep or chickens 113 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: or whatever you're keeping. Um As as humans develop into 114 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: more and more dense living conditions, right with industrialization these 115 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: kinds of things, the food sources are pushed further and 116 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: further from the center of where the humans are gathering, right, 117 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: So then you have to have that food source kind 118 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: of push. It has to come into the city, into 119 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: the village, into the town, the castle, whatever it is. 120 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: And that's why you need these places like that stall 121 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: in Pompeii where the food is now available in here, 122 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: but it's not in the same form that it was 123 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: when it was you know where it's originating in that 124 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: more raw form. Yet you nailed it, Matt. That's very 125 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean, very well said. First, Also, uh, you know 126 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: you're right about you're right about the stew and if 127 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: we're going to be optimistic, we have to say that statistically, 128 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, food, uh, sanitation aside, right, hygiene aside, there 129 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: had to be at least a few a few moments 130 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: where that stew was unexpectedly the bomb. You know, it 131 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: was good stew. It reminds me of Carl Weathers and 132 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: UH in Arrested Development, where he he saves the ball 133 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: from his chicken and then he says, well it does 134 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: you take this? You put it a little, put it 135 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: in a pot of hot water. You got yourself a 136 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: stew going I do that? Yeah, but but but yes, 137 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: guys are absolutely right the because there there is something 138 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: that the stew and the transportation problem have in common, 139 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: which is, uh, something must be kept edible somehow. So 140 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: when we're talking about this, this transportation problem starting shortly 141 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: after human beings uh started adapting stationary lifestyles, meaning no 142 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: longer nomadic hunter gathering. But now it's like, hey, we're 143 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: farming stuff. We could just stay here and build things 144 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: and live in them. This uh, this is the beginning 145 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: of urban development, and that's really the beginning of fast 146 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: food as we know it today. The related to each 147 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: other the same way that maybe a t rex is 148 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: related to a chicken. There's a lot out in between. 149 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 1: But like you're saying, Matt, you're living in a city, 150 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: whether an ancient city or a city today. And if 151 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: you're like the majority of human beings today, you live 152 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: in an urban area. You are running into the same 153 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: problem as the ancient Romans, as people in the ancient 154 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: Middle East ancient China, which is you have less personal space, 155 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: and that has become accelerated in huge metro areas like Tokyo. 156 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: You probably aren't going to have room to raise your 157 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: own chickens or grow your own rue to begas uh. 158 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: There's also less room to prepare food in your average 159 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: domicile or a house, and there's a lot at stake 160 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: with that. S T a k e. Because you know, 161 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: if you're cooking in a really small area and it's 162 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: not ventilated, you and you know you're fried and something oil, etcetera, etcetera. 163 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: If something goes wrong, you could have a smell that 164 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: stinks up the whole apartment building, like a macro cosmic 165 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: leve bowl of the old what's the thing people complain 166 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: about in office working situation, microwaving seafood. It's like that, 167 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: but now it's everybody's house, or you could actually burn 168 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: that structure down. And of course, like you were saying 169 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: that people lived in cities far far before the Industrial Revolution, 170 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: ancient Rome actually had these cramped, multi story apartments where 171 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: these people, the people living in them, did visit foodstalls constantly. 172 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: It was like a daily thing, because where are you 173 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: gonna do. You're not gonna cook it, You're not gonna 174 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: grow those beans you got you got room to make 175 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: wine and these in your squat exactly. And that's the 176 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: thing too, Ben, I think me and you in particular, 177 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: I know that you also like to cook, but we 178 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: sometimes take for granted that some people either don't have 179 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: the time or the interest or the wherewithal to cook 180 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: or learn to cook, or they're just playing not good 181 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: at it. Um. So I've definitely met people who are 182 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: just mystified by cooking and just literally eat all of 183 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: their meals in prepackaged form or out. Uh. And then 184 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: if if out is your thing, then oftentimes you're not 185 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: gonna always be able to do a sit down meal 186 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: for you know, lunch breaks for example, So you are 187 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna end up doing fast food quite often. And it's 188 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: very much become part of this kind of like you know, 189 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: uh rat racey kind of American lifestyle. But it's also 190 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: become a big part of at least recently since the pandemic. 191 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: Choosing not necessarily fast food, but choosing to eat food 192 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: from a prepared restaurant or or a fast food chain 193 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: right near you is a way of supporting your own 194 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: community in a cool way, I would say. And everybody 195 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: got into baking, right, making bread? Uh yeah, I mean 196 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: it is. It is a good a very good point. 197 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: And you can make a point if if you want 198 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: to be a little more philosophical about it, you can 199 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: make a point about my fullness, right and how we 200 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: how we approach uh, the necessities of life. Because you 201 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: can talk about people cooking their own food, but we 202 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: know that, with some exceptions, a lot of a lot 203 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: of folks should probably know aren't making their own clothes, 204 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: They're not building their own houses, you know what I mean? 205 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: So where where is the line of the mindfulness versus 206 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: the convenience versus the investment, the the idea of buying 207 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: uh for a the idea of buying food for a purpose? 208 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: Also philosophical right to support one's community is is not new, 209 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: but it definitely encountered a resurgence here in Atlanta for sure, 210 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: but in many places throughout the US. Matt, I think 211 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: you're specifically talking about when a local restaurant that usually 212 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: had people come in and eat would sell like here 213 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:01,239 Speaker 1: is a prepackaged family meal for four people, right, just exactly, 214 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: But really it's it's um from where the foods originating 215 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: to where it ends up to that stew to how 216 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: we're supporting our local communities is really interesting. How this 217 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: thing food and how to get it quickly to yourself 218 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: and your family, just everything touches it or destroying your 219 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: local communities. So yeah, so long story short, a cities 220 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: were around way before the Industrial Revolution. Be people who 221 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: lived in those cities, which were all across the world, 222 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, on the continent of Africa and the continent 223 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: of Asia or in western Europe, parts of the Middle East. 224 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: People who lived in these dense urban agglomerations had access 225 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: to pre made foods from stalls and vendors. These were 226 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: not apartment buildings where everybody was like growing their own 227 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: stuff and only eating that that is silly. So basically 228 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: street food. Street food has been around for a long time. 229 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: So fast food maybe fast, but it is not new. 230 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: The emergence, though, of what we call modern fast food 231 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: is tied one to one with the Industrial Revolution and 232 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: in the US very much to World War two. UM 233 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: is when we see a huge takeoff. And I propose 234 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: that we take a moment, uh for a word from 235 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: our sponsors, and uh I will return with more on 236 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: the history of fast food and it's troubling future. We 237 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: are back the evolution of fast food. UH. This you 238 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: can trace it in a couple of different ways. First, 239 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: there's the idea of what is called the self served restaurant. 240 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: The first of these, Noel, since you were once upon 241 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: a time a small German boy, let's see stuck auto 242 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: mattin restaurant nailed it, nailed it. So that's that's that's 243 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: an automat. That's what they would call it. The U 244 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: s right. That was in Berlin in eight the very 245 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: first one. And you guys, can we briefly describe an 246 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: automatt I literally have no idea what this is? Yeah, 247 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: you do, Matt. It's sort of like a retro uh 248 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: futuristic kind of form of like you know, a restaurant, um, 249 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: where you have either a conveyor belt situation that's feeding 250 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: some kind of grab and go type situation, right, or 251 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: it's these little windows where you put in a buck 252 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: and then you open the window and you pull out 253 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: the sandwich or a piece of pie. Um. The modern 254 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: equivalent to us here would maybe be that Kura Sushi 255 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: franchise that they have out in an area here in 256 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta called Buford Highway, where it is literally a conveyor 257 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: belt with different plates sushi that come around and you 258 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: grab the one you want, and then you are charged 259 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: based on the plates that you feed into this little dispenser. 260 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: So it's very you get prizes, you gotta get the prizes, 261 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: and there's like a little animated character that does cool 262 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: things the more you get um. But yeah, it's an 263 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: interesting concept, and it does feel like at the time 264 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: they're like, this is the wave of the future. But 265 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure those sandwiches would sit in there for quite 266 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: some time, probably not under the best refrigeration conditions, and 267 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: I bet you they were kind of gross unless you 268 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: had like people constantly refreshing them and hanging out behind 269 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: the scenes. That's just my theory. I hate gas station 270 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: sandwiches all the time. When I'm on the road. Uh 271 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: like that's exactly y yeah. Yeah. So all you do 272 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: is like in the beginning, you you know, you put 273 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: in your nickel or quarter or whatever your inflation rate is, 274 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: and then you would push the button and you'd open 275 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: the little glass window like, Hi, here's my piece of pie. 276 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm so lonely or whatever they say. At a place 277 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: like The Dark City has a great example. I just 278 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: wander yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. It reminds me of 279 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: the maybe the modern full equivalent to that is in 280 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: the airport. They've got a lot of these stations where 281 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: there it's just like you're talking about a convenience store 282 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: where there's a bunch of sandwiches that you just grab 283 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: one you pay for right there. But that's it. That's 284 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: literally the transactions. You grab it and you pay for it. Yeah, 285 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: so that's that's. Uh, that's one of the evolutions of 286 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: modern fast food. But there's the other idea, the idea 287 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: of a fast food outlet the way we understand them today. 288 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm in a hurry, I gotta go to work. My 289 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: kid won't be quiet, and they only eat one of 290 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: three things, so I've got to zip in, zip out, 291 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: of this place. It's not going to be like a restaurant. 292 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: I don't have to sit down. I don't have to, 293 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, contemplate a menu. What will be the appetizer, 294 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: what will be dessert? What are the specials? Could you 295 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: tell me about a little more about this tomato calum fee? No, 296 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go up to this counter. I'm gonna I'm 297 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: probably gonna have like a numbered list of things I 298 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: can pick from. Right, a combo meal there set. Uh. 299 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: This this is what we think of when you think 300 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: of modern fast food, and you'll often hear people call 301 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: White Castle the first fast food outlet. It began in Wichita, Kansas, 302 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: nineteen sixteen as a bunch of like Hamburger stalls. Hamburgers 303 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: are still, by the way, the number one like most 304 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: consumed fast food. Uh. And then it was officially founded 305 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: as White Castle in one. Selling burgers at this point 306 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: was not a big deal, you know what I mean? Like, 307 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't. They weren't like to the first. They weren't 308 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: the first people to the the uh to do the 309 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: moon landing equivalent here, They didn't. They weren't the first 310 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: people serving hamburgers. But what they were was the first 311 00:18:54,520 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: people standardizing absolutely everything first time in history. You go 312 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: from one White Castle to the next, they did their 313 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: best to make them indistinguishable. Yeah, and that's the thing 314 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: about fast food and the whole franchise and the larger 315 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: the scaling rather is what you would refer to this 316 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: as like the larger the company is, the more important 317 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: it is that their practices be identical and that their 318 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: hours be predictable, and that it would be something that 319 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: everyone knows no matter which insert fast food chain x 320 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: here you go to and whatever part of the country 321 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: or even the world. Though in the world there are 322 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: going to be some smaller changes um in terms of 323 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: like the types of menu items. There might be some 324 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: like regional things available in certain you know spots, but 325 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: in general, uh, it's all about that predictability and that 326 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: ritualization of going to your fast food chain of choice 327 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: and knowing exactly what you're going to get. Yeah. The chain, 328 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: I think is the most important word there, right because 329 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: really what the what White Castle did, what all of 330 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: these fast food companies do, is they build a supply 331 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: chain where or they're getting everything from. And it's because 332 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: it's not just the meat, it's not standardized meat or 333 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: you know whatever that is that goes inside. It's the buns, 334 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: it's the equipment that's used to make those things, right, 335 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: to cut the French fries or to get the French 336 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: fries already cut in a factory somewhere. It's it's how 337 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: all of that stuff moves into each individual outlet that 338 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: becomes standardized. Yeah. Yeah, it's the paper products, right, It's 339 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: it's the uniforms. It's the predictability of the hours. And 340 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: that's strange because there's an anonymization of this. You know, 341 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: the person at that counter could be ending. Is every person. 342 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: It's it's very different from the idea, the prevail prevailing 343 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: idea of local restaurants at the time, where they would 344 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: it would be like I always know that um, Thelma 345 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: or Janice or Ernie or Oscar is going to be 346 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: at the counter, and they always know how I like 347 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: my uh the coffee and uh the coffee and and 348 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: burger whatever they have coffee to burger at the same time. 349 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: For me, that's the diner experience and maybe I just 350 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: have a soft spot in my heart for it. But 351 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: like somebody you know that knows what you like, and 352 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: it's still a pretty fast turnaround for food, but it's 353 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: it's way more. Yeah, the the being anonymized like that 354 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: you are no longer a human being who is who 355 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: knows my stuff? You just as a company. Know what 356 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: I like, and all I have to do is say 357 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: a number and then say make it a large. Yeah, 358 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: I like. I like a restaurant where they treat me 359 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: like a meme, you know, where like the door dings 360 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: and you hear somebody softly say, oh lord, he's coming, 361 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: and then then they're like, just throw in the French fries, 362 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: throw in the chicken wings, put on hollow Mountain King. 363 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: This is a very weird diner are describing. But anyway, 364 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. This is what happened. They made 365 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: the first fast food supply chain, and we'll have to 366 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: explore that in this or a future episode. This was 367 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: objectively impressive. Not necessarily good for the world, but objectively impressive. 368 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when Henry Ford choked out his 369 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: anti semitism just long enough to really figure out the 370 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: assembly line, Like he took an afternoon off and and 371 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: and focused on something else for like just a second, 372 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: and now we have the assembly line and the fast 373 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Food Um operation was very very much like this a 374 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: white Castle, and they even had a specialized wing of 375 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: the company dedicated just to building white castles so that 376 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: they can make sure every building looked kind of the same. 377 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: And today there's a guy you may have heard of, 378 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Ray Kroc k r o C. It's a lot of 379 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: attention for doing the same thing with McDonald's through something 380 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: they called the Speedy Service System sp E E d 381 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: e E. Crucial crucial branding there, right, crucial branding. Uh, 382 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: And that's I don't know if you yeah, I wouldn't 383 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: call it a rip off, but it's definitely heavily inspired 384 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: by and built a pond what White Castle had already 385 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: been doing back in the twenties and thirties. That standardization, 386 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: that is the whole mark of modern fast food. But 387 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: that's that's fast food history and there's nothing necessarily conspiratorial 388 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: about that today. It's just it's just a pattern of 389 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: people wanting faster solutions to the problem of I don't 390 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: have enough time. So that problem is still with people 391 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: in what does it mean? What does it mean now? 392 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: Is fast food is fast food of fat? You guys, Yeah, 393 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's become like ingrained 394 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: in our very culture. Um, like we were talking about earlier, 395 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: but in many ways by necessity. I mean, you know, 396 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: the area of town here in Atlanta that I live 397 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: in is what you would call a food desert um, 398 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: where there are very few fresh produce you know stores. 399 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean there's you know, there's a Publix, and there's Kroger, 400 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: but they're a big, good ten minute drive away. And 401 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: if you don't have a vehicle, um, and you're just 402 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: on foot. The immediate area where I live, Uh, it's 403 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: largely populated with gas stations and fast food joints. Um. 404 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly. So it really is kind of you know, uh, 405 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: potentially nefarious, um, you know, an opportunistic because some areas 406 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: that have less developments and are may be con seen 407 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: as being a little more dangerous you know by the 408 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: powers that be, You're not going to see as much 409 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: development of those types of restaurants. But fast food joints 410 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: they look at that as an opportunity. Yeah. Fast food 411 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: is a leviathan because it directly addresses one of the 412 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: fun to mental needs of existence for human beings. Uh. 413 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: And it is profitable despite a global pandemic. Actually, fast 414 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: food did pretty well during the pandemic. Global fast food 415 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: revenue right now is greater than five hundred and seventy 416 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: billion dollars. For comparison, when we talked about advertising in 417 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: a past episode, Uh, that global revenue ran into about 418 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: three hundred something well around round about three and three 419 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: hundred fifty ish during sixties billion dollars. Uh. Fast food 420 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: dwarfs that and the US fast food industry alone, their 421 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: revenue is about a hundred and ten billion dollars a year. 422 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: And we have people who work in the fast food 423 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: service and associated service industries listening to the show today 424 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: rightly thinking a hundred and ten billion dollar dollars a year. 425 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Uh what what? What? Where is all that money going, right, 426 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: because it's certainly not going to me and my coworkers, 427 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: and that is another problem with fast food. Here's a 428 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: statistic that I think I read the book this that 429 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: states this statistic, and I originally didn't believe it, but 430 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: it does check out. If you live in the United States, 431 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: of children in your country between the age of three 432 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: and nine go to McDonald's at least once a month. Yeah, 433 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: it's just to get the new toy the happy Meal. 434 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, I love him. I love and they still 435 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: let you buy those if you're an adult. But uh, 436 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, you get some looks. The move is to 437 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: pretend you have a kid at home. Yeah, but but 438 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: you're right that the reason why we even bring that 439 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: up is because it sounds pretty crazy. That's that's a 440 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: lot of McDonald's eating at least one a month, right 441 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: for for nine of children, because there are a lot 442 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: of kids, And um, I wonder if it yeah, anyway, 443 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: we don't, we don't have to get into some of 444 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: the stuff that I want to talk about right now, 445 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: let's keep let's continue going down this line. So that 446 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: book is Fast Food Nation, The Dark Side of the 447 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: All American Meal, by an author named Eric Schlausser, highly recommended. 448 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: You should be able. It's been used as a textbook 449 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: in colleges, which why am I bringing that up. That 450 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: means that there are going to be a lot of 451 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: very inexpensive copies of that book because a lot of 452 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: people just got rid of it when they were done 453 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: with school. And so we'll pause for a moment for 454 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors to give you time to 455 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 1: read the book in its entirety. And we're back. How 456 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: about that book? Good job, y'all. Are some speed readers 457 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: out there, part of the part of the helicopter in 458 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: the background their votes as well. I don't know if 459 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody can't hear it, But we're 460 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: not an ideal sound set up at at this moment, 461 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: at least on my end. But we are in reach 462 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: of fast food because there are very few places in 463 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: the US that are not in reach of fast food, 464 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: or very few places where humans habitually live that don't 465 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: have some kind of fast food um fast food outlet 466 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: near them. As a matter of fact, as of twenty nineteen, 467 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: all of the top ten fast food brands in the 468 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: world come from the good old US of A. We're 469 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: not just talking to McDonald's. We're talking the Starbucks. We're 470 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: talking the subways. Subway, by the way, has the highest 471 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: amount of physical locations the planet, more than the dods. Yeah, 472 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: it makes sense because they seem to find their ways 473 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: in two places like wall marts and other larger stores. 474 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: There's why is there subway here to the pedagon but 475 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: they closed it. I think I wonder how that deal works. 476 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: You're right, though, there always are subways in Walmart stores 477 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: and and no others. That's really really interesting. Um yeah, 478 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean, and I didn't realize Ben, you you found 479 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: this amazing stat about the three largest companies, one of 480 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: which is a Chinese holding company um that deal in 481 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: fast food McDonald's, Starbucks, and Yum China Holdings, which hold 482 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: the market caps in the business McDonald's being number one 483 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: with one hundred and forty four point six billion, Starbucks 484 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: being number two with eighty eight point three billion, and 485 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: Yum China Holdings with nineteen point seven billion. And that 486 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: one is really fascinating me because I looked it up 487 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: and they you know, they have a lot of like 488 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: traditional kind of more like Chinese hot pot type places 489 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: that you'd only find in Asia. But they obviously cornered 490 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: the market and bought the frame shines rights to Pizza 491 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: hut Uh and Taco bell Um and if you and 492 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: KFC excuse me, which which is huge in in Asia 493 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: as we know, right, Ben, we did an episode on 494 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History about the Metholic sization got that out of 495 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: Colonel Sanders Um in Japan in particular, and like, uh yeah, 496 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: it was. It was a whole thing. There was Ristmas meal. 497 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: Christmas meal, That's what it was. Ben, Thank you. But 498 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: I love this. If you go to Young China holder 499 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's uh I are dot Young China dot 500 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: com and you look at their brands uh Pizza Hu. 501 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: I love the story behind Pizza Hut. It says Pizza 502 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: Hut is the leading casual dining restaurant brand in China 503 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: as measured by system sales. It started from humble beginnings 504 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: over sixty years ago when the Carney brothers borrowed six 505 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: hundred dollars from their mom and set out to change 506 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: the way the world experiences pizza. Um. Pizza Hut came 507 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: to China and Beijing in nine and now there are 508 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 1: over twenty four hundred Pizza Huh restaurants and over five 509 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: hundred cities. But it literally it was the thing that 510 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: introduced uh fast casual American kind of pizza dining to Asia. 511 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean Pizza Hut. I know we are going to uh, 512 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: we're going to say some disturbing and true things about 513 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: fast food in general in uh this this two part series. 514 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: But thanks for book it, Pizza Hut. Thanks thanks for 515 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: giving me the free pizzas and and the books. Dude, 516 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: it was worth it, you know, cheese spiracy aside book, 517 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: it made it worth it. Oh and then uh, let's 518 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: see what else, Yes, cheese spiracy. Oh. I guess what 519 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: you should say is thank you Yum Brands, because they're 520 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: they're one of those companies that owns a bunch of 521 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: things like fingers on a hand, that seemed to compete 522 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: with each other until you realize they all go back. Gosh, 523 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: but that's eight is true. And speaking of that, by 524 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 1: the way, Uh, A market cap, if anyone's confused, is 525 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: the total dollar value of a company's stock shares. That's 526 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: how big McDonald's is. That's how big Starbucks and Young 527 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: China are, their leviathans, their behemoths. Uh. Number four, by 528 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: the way, and just like any other sort of corporate list, uh, 529 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: number one is alway is outsized, Number three gets is 530 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: a distant third, and number four here is smaller comparatively 531 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: but still in the billions. This I thought was interesting. 532 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: It's a company, an outfit called Darden Restaurants, and they're 533 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: just like the way Noll you described Yum. They own 534 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: a ton of stuff you might have thought of as 535 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: separate companies. You're driving down a street, a main street 536 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: and any town, USA, and you see the olive garden, 537 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: you see the long corns. You might see the yardhouse, 538 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: and you might think those are by different people. They're not. 539 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: It's all. It's all the same company at the top. 540 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: It's all Darten, and Darden used to be part of 541 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: something even bigger. He used to be part of General Mills. 542 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I know this goes all the way to 543 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: the top of the cereal box. Wait a second, is 544 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: Appleby's a subsidiary of some other company? To no comment? No, 545 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: you know you guys. I had one good comedy idea 546 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: years and years ago when I was like in like 547 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: elementary school. We were doing like a talent show, and 548 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: I didn't really it was just an idea with nothing 549 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: to back it up, really, but it was General Mills 550 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: nine O two one oh um, where it was going 551 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: to be different cereals, like in a high school kind 552 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: of like romance type situation. It didn't really have any 553 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: further development from that, but I will always remember that idea, 554 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: General Mills night two one out. Let's make it. Let's 555 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: film the you know the way you get around that 556 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: and keep it as a sketchman. We just film it 557 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 1: as a trailer for the new season, as long as 558 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: it's not season one. Let's get really it's like season four. Yes, okay, 559 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: we're sorry, fellow conspiracy realists, please let us do that 560 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: one because it was Knowle's idea, So don't take it 561 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: from us, and don't take it from us the way 562 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: McDonald's took Whitecastle's idea, which they totally did well. But 563 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: it's one of those things, where is that really an 564 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: idea that one can own? Right? I mean it's sort 565 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: of like, uh, can you really own the wind? You know? 566 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, can you own standardization of food service? It's 567 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: certainly there was the first one to do it, but 568 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: it's hard to trade marker copyright a process like that. 569 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: You know. That's an interesting that's an interesting argument. Uh 570 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: it goes against preserving your awesome sketch idea. No, no, 571 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: that's no, that's pure intellectual property. And I have trademarked 572 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: that with the Library of Congress already. So let's see 573 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: if we get patent sketch commedy. So today the US also, 574 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: in addition to having the world's most successful fast food brands, 575 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: it has the world's largest fast food industry. You can 576 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: find American fast food restaurants in well over a hundred countries, 577 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: and it touches on geopolitics in a really weird way. 578 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: Have you guys ever heard the idea that it's called 579 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: the Golden Arches doctrine. Have you ever heard the idea 580 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: that if two countries both have McDonald's, they will not 581 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: go to war? Interesting, like like by some sort of 582 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: secret pact or just sort of by like the fact 583 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: that it represents something culturally. Well, it's the Yeah, it's 584 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: the idea that represents some cultural or capitalist criminality. Yeah. Yeah. 585 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: The idea here is that this was first proposed by 586 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: an economist who isn't perfect named Thomas Friedman. Was called 587 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: the Golden Arches theory of conflict prevention. And his argument said, uh, 588 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: people who live in McDonald's countries, as he called him, 589 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: don't like to fight wars. They like to wait in 590 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: line for burgers. And his his real argument was that 591 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: if you're a country that has a middle class large 592 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: enough to sustain something like that, they've reached a level 593 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: of prosperity that makes war risky and unpalatable. However, I'm 594 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: only bringing this up to completely bust it, to debunk it, 595 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: because look at the Kosovo War, those countries involved there 596 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: had McDonald's. But if you want to learn more about 597 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: this idea that has been debunked, do check out his 598 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: book The Lexus and the Olive Tree. Anyway, it's a 599 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: really interesting idea. I would say it probably has more 600 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: to do with kind of what you said there, and 601 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: again I'm not an economist discuss probably very much right 602 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: for me, it would be more about the supply chain 603 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: that we've been describing here where in order to have 604 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: a McDonald's, you probably have a pretty good trade agreement 605 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: with another country. Uh maybe it's you know, but again 606 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: that wouldn't That would only be if we're talking about 607 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: war with the United States and or you know, whichever country, 608 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: like let's say it's McDonald's China maybe. Uh yeah, So 609 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 1: you know what, I just poked holes in my own argument. 610 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: Let's forget no, no, no, no, I think you would. 611 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: I think the best way to say it is it 612 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: hinges on one's definition of war. Right, the concept of 613 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: war is changing as well, So I don't thought war 614 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: never changes. I don't know, all right, Well, it didn't 615 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: until the most recent upgrade. You have to install the update. 616 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: Did you put in did you install your war update you? No? 617 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: I didn't. I think we're at three point oh now, 618 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: but dang, keep up, but keep up with war updates. 619 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: Jay's so the reason I bring this up is is 620 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: kind of set up for part two of our series 621 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: here when we Thomas Freeman is not correct in his 622 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: assertion that countries can be prevented from open warfare just 623 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: because they like the same fast food. But it is 624 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: true that fast food has a much larger, much more profound, 625 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: and perhaps much more insidious effect on economies than people 626 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: might believe. On economies and on culture and ultimately on 627 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: human beings. In some situations, fast food actually seems economically bulletproof. 628 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: We mentioned at the top of today's episode the coronavirus, 629 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen pandemic. Millions and millions and millions of businesses, 630 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: little mom and pop places had to close, They were 631 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: forced out, they had to shutter their door words even 632 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: even in countries that provided economic assistance um not like 633 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: the US, not like countries that pretended to provide economic 634 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: assistance to mom and pop places, but countries that actually 635 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: did that still wasn't enough for a lot of people, 636 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: and the opposite was true for fast food places. Just 637 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: like Matt said earlier, the idea of buying something prepackaged 638 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: was in terms of fast food, uh, it was seen 639 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 1: as healthier, more sanitary. You minimized your interaction with people 640 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: by going to a drive through. That's true, but also 641 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: like I mean, you know, fast food workers are handling 642 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: things and there is potential for you know, sneezes and such. 643 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: So to me, there was still some consternation around that 644 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: at first, I think, but then people kind of warmed 645 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: up the idea realized things weren't to be be transmitted 646 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 1: as much over surfaces. I'd to know, it's a weird 647 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: one that they were able to dodge that. I would 648 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: have personally thought, given that maybe some of these restaurants 649 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: maybe do take some shortcuts here and there, that people 650 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: maybe would have been a little more cautious, But apparently 651 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. I would say, it goes back 652 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,959 Speaker 1: to standardizing things, right, So I'm imagining, and I saw 653 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: this in real time, that the standardizing of safety procedures 654 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: occurred across let's say McDonald's. My family went to McDonald's 655 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 1: while we were you know, locked down pretty heavily, and 656 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: it felt freely safe just when I mean, and when 657 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: you're just observing it, right, I have no idea what 658 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: exactly is happening happening back in the kitchen there, but 659 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, according all the signage, according to what I'm 660 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: seeing the employees wearing, what they're doing, it felt very safe. 661 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: And then you imagine that that's being spread out across 662 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: the franchises as much as possible, very quickly, very quickly, 663 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: and very methodically. Now, and you're right, and they would 664 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: have been the first types of companies to institute mask 665 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: mandates for all of their employees instantly because they needed 666 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: to not lose that um confidence in the public. They 667 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: needed people to feel comfortable or else they could have 668 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: lost their bottom line very quickly. That is a fantastic point. 669 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: You know that, that's a profound point because the infrastructure, 670 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: the communications, the logistics were already there. Uh. These these 671 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: outfits already probably had a clear you know, um supply 672 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: chain opportunity for things like mask. So here's another problem 673 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: with this, though. The folks who worked in these in 674 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: these uh, for these companies, in these situations throughout the pandemic. 675 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: They were called essential workers. They were they were called 676 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: heroes because calling them heroes was a hell of a 677 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: lot easier than treating them like human beings or helping 678 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: them survive. You know what I mean, you can like 679 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: the make no mistake this, people who are posting stuff 680 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: on social media, at least in several instances, the same 681 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: people who are posting stuff on social media say here 682 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: are the real heroes, were probably treating those folks like 683 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 1: they were not human. When it came to the drive through, 684 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: why did I have to wait so long for my 685 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: number three? You know what I mean? I ordered the 686 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: small chicken nuggets. It's basically you and Hitler, you monstrous 687 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: cashier at the drive through. That's that's where we are like, 688 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: because you know, people are very very self centered. So 689 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: what we're saying, the reason this pandemic example is so 690 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: important is because we see a situation which the workers 691 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: were struggling, the customers were struggling, and the fast food outfit, 692 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: the company itself, the Capital C company, continued doing well. 693 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: It thrived. So to like, that's that's an interesting situation, 694 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: isn't it, Because usually for business to have to do well, 695 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: the customers would have to be doing okay. The employees 696 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: would probably be I don't know. Maybe the employees always 697 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 1: have to do well for company to do well. Actually 698 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: they don't, that's true. I talked to myself out of 699 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: my own point. There keep doing that, We keep doing that. 700 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: But in short, fast food has been around a long 701 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: long time. It has only grown, it continues to do. 702 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: So there's a very quick, very quick here's where it 703 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: gets crazy for today's episode, and it's this. You needed 704 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 1: to know the history of how we got here today 705 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: to know exactly what is going crazy, how it's going crazy, 706 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: and why it's going crazy now and in the future. 707 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 1: So tune in for part two of this series, where 708 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit more about the 709 00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: present and the future. Uh the allegations true and untrue 710 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: about the fast food industry at large, assuming, of course, 711 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: we don't get pulled by uh big Fast, Big Fast. Okay, 712 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: is there someone named big Fast? Yeah, just just like 713 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 1: your favorite fast food chain. This episode is a combo meal. 714 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: You just have to wait, you know, a while before 715 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: you get the second part. The fries are coming later, 716 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: or maybe this was the fries. You're gonna get your 717 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 1: chicken sandwich, whichever one you like the best, because now 718 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: everybody's got a competing chicken sandwich. It's it's coming next week. 719 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 1: And uh, speaking of things on the way, we've got 720 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: part two of this series on the way to you. 721 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: In the meantime, we'd like you to have something on 722 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: the way to us. What is if you've made a 723 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 1: fast food restaurant, what would it be, what would it serve? 724 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: What do you think about fast food during the pandemic? 725 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: What do you think about the way people working at 726 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: those jobs were treated during the pandemic. We want to 727 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: hear from you. We try to make it easy to 728 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: find us online. That's right. You can find us on 729 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,479 Speaker 1: the internet in the usual social media places of note 730 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: we are conspiracy stuff on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. 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