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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nory

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Speaker 1: back with Robert Moss as we talk about dreams and

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Speaker 1: dreams interpretation. We'll take your calls with the Robert next

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Speaker 1: hour here on Coast to Coast. Robert, when you were

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Speaker 1: talking about how precognitive dreams saved your life from several accidents,

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of the greatest tools available to us,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. Well, we do have this intuitive radar, George,

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Speaker 1: and it tends to come most alive in dreams when

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Speaker 1: we drop our left brain inhibitions and stop asking ourselves

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Speaker 1: whether this is for real, and we just have the experience.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's actually going on everybody every night.

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Speaker 1: I think you see some elements in the future. Now,

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Speaker 1: your memory might be missing altogether, or it might be

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Speaker 1: confused or fragmentary, so you might have to take a

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Speaker 1: look at the dream. One of the things I teach

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Speaker 1: people to do is see if you can take more

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Speaker 1: of a look at what was going on inside of

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Speaker 1: the dream, get your head back in in a sense,

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Speaker 1: and get the information more clear, and then see how

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Speaker 1: you apply to do better. Let me give you a

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Speaker 1: tiny story if I may sah. I like stories about

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Speaker 1: seeing the pup. So I dream one one morning that

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Speaker 1: I'm watching a silly dog with fake antlers for some

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Speaker 1: by a car, Poor Doggie. He's magically revived by bizarre

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Speaker 1: character who doesn't conform to normal human behavior. Well, this

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Speaker 1: is my dream. I write it down. It's my practice.

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Speaker 1: I run to the airport early to get a plane.

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Speaker 1: I missed my flight. Him on the wrong plane. I'm

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Speaker 1: making interesting connection with someone on the wrong plane. But

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Speaker 1: then she's looking at my new book, so I can't

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Speaker 1: talk with her. And I look up at the screen.

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Speaker 1: It's to the middle of the aisle on that plane,

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Speaker 1: and there is a silly dog in fake antlers, dressed

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Speaker 1: and revived by bizarre character the archangel Michael, portrayed by

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Speaker 1: Chun Travalta in the old Very Funny movie Michael. Now,

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Speaker 1: I like stories like this because they show you. They

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Speaker 1: make you sick. If you can dream something as trivial

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Speaker 1: of time, maybe you can dream all sorts of other stuff,

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Speaker 1: And in fact you can. As one of the things

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Speaker 1: I teach people is it's not weird to think that

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Speaker 1: you have our own precognitive dreamer. But as I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: the really interesting thing is that once you satisfy yourself,

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Speaker 1: it's require some practice writing down your dreams and seeing

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Speaker 1: what follows the dream and whether it's a subsequent event

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Speaker 1: matches the dream. Once you satisfy yourself that you can

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Speaker 1: see the future in this way, then you could say

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Speaker 1: to yourself, well, maybe what I'm seeing is not an

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Speaker 1: inevitable future, it's a possible future, and then I can

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Speaker 1: take action to move towards a happy outcome or avoid

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Speaker 1: an unhappy one. That's the point of power. That's the

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Speaker 1: point of power with this dreaming across time. I think,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that in our dreams we also visit

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Speaker 1: parallel universe. As you know, you've probably discussed on the

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Speaker 1: show Many Worlds hypothesis in physics, which says, right now,

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Speaker 1: while you and I are talking in another reality close

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Speaker 1: to us, we're not on this show together. In another

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Speaker 1: reality a bit further away, you're not doing this show,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not writing about dreams, we're doing something else.

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Speaker 1: We live in uncountable parallel universes. How would you know

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Speaker 1: way to apply information from that conception of reality to

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Speaker 1: your life? Well, in dreams, George, one of the things

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Speaker 1: you get to recognize that some of those recurring dreams

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Speaker 1: a serial dream like a long playing TV series, missing

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Speaker 1: could document this for yourself in your own journal if

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Speaker 1: you take up that practice, And George, this is a

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Speaker 1: way of gaining first hand information state specific science, in

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Speaker 1: other words, scientific information that is adapted to the circumstances

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Speaker 1: over our popular culture. It's all over TV, it's all

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Speaker 1: You're one of the few people, Robert, who really gets

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Speaker 1: deja vu, which I've always believed as a machine of

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Speaker 1: parallel universes. Yes, yes, I I delayed seeing it. I

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Speaker 1: just saw a matrix or matrix resurrections. You've probably seen

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Speaker 1: name on it, Desavou. So the point is being made

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Speaker 1: universe is not what you think it is. Maybe you're

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Speaker 1: means already seen. It's French, of course, the British. British

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Speaker 1: it's stuck. It's often actually deja where they which means

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Speaker 1: already dreamed. You've dreamed something. You don't remember the dream.

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Speaker 1: But when is the wedging life catches up to the dream?

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Speaker 1: my own experience and observation that our dramas of our

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Speaker 1: an agnostic about reincarnation is not necessarily about popping from

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Speaker 1: You know, get worth it, don't get over it. Get

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Speaker 1: event on May supporteenth at the Shift Network. This one

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Speaker 1: is about time travel, about time travel and dream travel

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Speaker 1: and creating your helping to create your reality inside the

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Speaker 1: dream state. It will be very powerful and in the

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Speaker 1: course of it, it means a lot of experiential stuff.

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Speaker 1: You'll learn how to jump inside a dream. You've you've

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Speaker 1: got a dream and you'd like to know more about it,

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Speaker 1: or maybe something is scaring your pants off in a

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Speaker 1: dream and you're ready to face that challenge and resolve it.

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Speaker 1: I'll teach you how you can step back through a

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Speaker 1: personal image from a dream and do sue do some good,

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Speaker 1: continue the adventures, solve the mystery brave up to the

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Speaker 1: challenge and find your power. And we'll also talk about

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Speaker 1: interesting things. We'll talk about how time travel and dream

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Speaker 1: travel and parallel realities are in the popular culture. Now

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Speaker 1: we'll look at some of the films. I will talk

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Speaker 1: about famous figures like Tolkien and C. S. Lewis who

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Speaker 1: became dream travelers. I mean Tolkien and CS Lewis. Most

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Speaker 1: people who follow their work and love them and like

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Speaker 1: the movies don't know how deep their practice became. They

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Speaker 1: became experimenters in a kind of lucid dreaming and what

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Speaker 1: Tolkien called dream inspection. So that's just the next course.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we do all sorts of things here. We

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Speaker 1: learn how images derive from dreams could help to heal

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Speaker 1: the body and can diagnose what's going on inside the body. Well, learn,

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Speaker 1: as I say, how the right kind of dream work

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Speaker 1: can prepare you for life after death. And above all,

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Speaker 1: perhaps well learn how to tell our stories a lot

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Speaker 1: better so we can talk to each other a lot better,

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Speaker 1: so we can talk about things it might be hard

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Speaker 1: to talk about, because we have a method of discussing

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Speaker 1: things which is fun, it's fast, it's mutually empowering, and

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Speaker 1: it leads to some kind of action. Robert tell us

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Speaker 1: the story of Sigmund Freud. Something horrible happened to him.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a terrible story. I mean, I have

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Speaker 1: more sympathy for Freud than some people might think. But

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Speaker 1: let's just say. The most famous dream that he wrote

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Speaker 1: about was the Erma dream. He dreamed one of his

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Speaker 1: patients he wasn't doing well with there, and at some

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Speaker 1: point in his dream report, which kills twenty eight pages

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Speaker 1: of his famous book, The Interpretation of Dreams, he describes

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Speaker 1: some horrible looking scarring and and blight and pale patches

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Speaker 1: inside her mouth. He writes like a dentist observing the

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Speaker 1: state of a horror carobot cavity. He writes twenty eight

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Speaker 1: pages about what the dream might mean, and he never

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Speaker 1: looks at the possibility that what he's looking at other

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Speaker 1: symptoms of an actual disease, and that although it seems

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Speaker 1: to the ibbea about his patient, it might act be

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Speaker 1: about him. Now the rains and tragic figures. Twenty eight

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Speaker 1: years later, he developed cancer of the mouth. It killed him,

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Speaker 1: and he developed the exact symptoms he had described in

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Speaker 1: his dream report. In his book Interpretation of Dreams, The

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Speaker 1: details were reviewed by an Argentine oncologist who was also

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Speaker 1: a Freudian psychist. Psychiatrist caught those shovels on who wrote

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Speaker 1: a book about this. He went to the Library of Congress,

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Speaker 1: as I recall an American archive anyway, or they able

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Speaker 1: to look at the X rays of the pictures, the

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Speaker 1: photographs of Freud's mouth. So here is a case of

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Speaker 1: a famous interpreter of dreams who missed a message that

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Speaker 1: perhaps could have saved his life had he realized that

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Speaker 1: the warning might be to stop chain smoking cigars all

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Speaker 1: day long, because that's what killed him. So it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: I have no satisfaction in sharing the story. I feel

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Speaker 1: for Freud. Died horrible agony with a prose thesis which

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Speaker 1: is very painful to take in and out. But it

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Speaker 1: looks as if he missed long a long range diagnostic dream,

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Speaker 1: A pro dromic dream would be the correct term, a

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Speaker 1: dream showing many years in advance the symptoms he would develop.

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Speaker 1: Every time you go for a teeth cleaning these days,

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Speaker 1: dentists check for oral cancer. That is correct, That is

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Speaker 1: absolutely correct. So he wouldn't have got away with it

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Speaker 1: perhaps today, I mean, or rather the early signs might

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Speaker 1: have been detected, but who knows who knows exactly when

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Speaker 1: the signs would could have been detected by a doctor

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Speaker 1: or dentist for that matter. I mean, I think our

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Speaker 1: dreams actually show us, give us pictures as if we've

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Speaker 1: got a personal X ray and personal MRI thing going

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Speaker 1: on every night. I think they give us advanced information

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Speaker 1: about what's going on in the body before symptoms are presented.

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Speaker 1: That's why again, if you pay attention, you might find

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Speaker 1: that your dreams would enable you to head off medical

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Speaker 1: procedures and you might rather not have to undergo. Listen

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