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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Called Light of Health.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Happy Tuesday, everybody. Chris Brown, Mattie Glavin with

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Speaker 1: us here for today's edition of the show with you

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Speaker 1: from one to three. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: watching wherever you might be, and being with us here today.

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Speaker 1: Owners meetings Mattie continuing in Arizona. We'll dive into what

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Speaker 1: came out of there late yesterday and even a little

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Speaker 1: bit today with the NFC coaches meeting the media. But

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Speaker 1: you had an interesting trip for a wedding that you

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Speaker 1: were attending, Yes, and you ran into a lot of

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Speaker 1: chiefs fans. I did. I ran into a lot of

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Speaker 1: Chiefs fans. I also got to check out the new

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Airport. Oh yeah, I heard about that because

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Speaker 1: the old one. No one I hear that. You guys,

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Speaker 1: when you travel with the team and the players, you

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Speaker 1: have to go through the airports. It's got to be

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Speaker 1: the most out of ill conceived terminal. I can't even

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Speaker 1: explain it. The only other airport that comes close to

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Speaker 1: it is in Hartford. The Bradley Airport is configured in

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Speaker 1: a similar way. It defies any and all logic. It's

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Speaker 1: shaped like a semicircle, and then on the outer concourse

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Speaker 1: area you can enter, but then you have to go

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Speaker 1: through an individual checkpoint to get to just your gate.

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Speaker 1: All the gates are separated. There's no room. It defies

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Speaker 1: any I don't know what engineer came up with this,

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Speaker 1: but he clearly failed college and somehow got the gig

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Speaker 1: because his dad knew somebody to give him the construction project.

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Speaker 1: Because the engineering of that place was an abomination to engineering.

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Speaker 1: So I am very happy. So what is the new?

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Speaker 1: First of all, let's start there. What does the new

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Speaker 1: airport terminal look like? It looks five million times better

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Speaker 1: than the old one. Because I would fly out of

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Speaker 1: Kansas City sometimes in college. I went to Miszoo, So

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Speaker 1: Columbia from Kansas City, so I would fly out of

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Speaker 1: that tiny, tiny airport. That terrible and it's like this

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Speaker 1: brown managering. It's a bad coloring. It's just bad vibes.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not a favorite, not even it's it's all

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Speaker 1: of like a Stephen King movie, like that's how eerie.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know, it's just bad vibes. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: All right. So anyway, so new airport, new airport, swanky,

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Speaker 1: tall ceilings, it's big, it's open, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: good food options. There's some art in there as well.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's the structure as you're walking to

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Speaker 1: baggage claim that reminds me of like the the waterfall

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Speaker 1: at LaGuardia Airport. So that was interesting to walk by.

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Speaker 1: I definitely had my phone out recording as I was

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Speaker 1: walking through to so sent to people, So is there

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Speaker 1: any other major airport that it reminds you of most?

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Speaker 1: I know you mentioned LaGuardia there, which also had a

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Speaker 1: major renovation recently. I don't know if there's one that

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Speaker 1: it reminds me of. It's not like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: this is the swankiest airport I've ever been in my life.

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Speaker 1: It's just wide concourses, it's really high ceilings. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of light in there. It doesn't have that brown

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Speaker 1: coloring anymore that's disgusting. It's cool to see local artwork

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Speaker 1: in there, which I know a lot of airports like

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Speaker 1: to do is put local things in there. So it

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Speaker 1: was tastefully done. Is it right next to the old one?

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Speaker 1: It's right next to me because I got imagine they

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Speaker 1: want to still use the runways and it's easy to

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Speaker 1: get in and out of. They didn't complicate anything, which

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Speaker 1: I appreciate, which I'm sure a lot of Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Can only hope, We can only hope. So because I

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Speaker 1: to talking about free agency, you get to talk in

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Speaker 1: about your team, about the Bills, about what those fans

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Speaker 1: want Kansas City to do this upcoming season. And it's

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Speaker 1: interesting because the Chiefs have a model that everybody wants

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Speaker 1: lot of the conversations, especially around the Bills too, is

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Speaker 1: you want the Chiefs to be better on defense? You

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Speaker 1: guys just want a Super Bowl? You want them to

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Speaker 1: be better on defense. It's funny because all these Bills

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Speaker 1: It's good enough to be a top ten defense. Even

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. We want the weapons for Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: We want to concern ourselves with the offense. First, give

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Speaker 1: Josh those weapons so they can go be teams by

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Speaker 1: ten points. So it was very interesting talking to a

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Speaker 1: was this only one person that really kind of wanted

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Speaker 1: I mean they were they were sixteenth in points allowed

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Speaker 1: can get away with that. Given up almost twenty two

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Speaker 1: but they were eleventh in total defense. They were eighth

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Speaker 1: starting younger players. I think the main issue for the

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Speaker 1: in red zone defense, Yes, that is Ugo Ugo City,

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Speaker 1: pass rusher than Frank Clark. But maybe they see, oh

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Speaker 1: Frank Clark's not back. Who else did we lose? They

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Speaker 1: just lost Juan Thornhill, the safety who was a starting

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Speaker 1: I get wanting to fill some holes, but the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: They still have Nick Bolton, They've got Trent McDuffie who

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Speaker 1: Those were all rookies, and those guys all made plays

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Speaker 1: Not only to just kind of hold down the fourth

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Speaker 1: because what the Bills need now is what the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: needed last year, which was cheap labor in the draft.

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Speaker 1: And so I don't say you have to follow it

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Speaker 1: what the Chiefs did last year, because your quarterbacks every

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Speaker 1: finding the cheap labor to fill the holes you have left.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon met Brandon Being, the Bills GM met

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Speaker 1: number of national reporters said it's happening. It's a one

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Speaker 1: an absolute outright steal for a player of Tailor Raps caliber.

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Speaker 1: We knew that they weren't in a position to spend

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Speaker 1: They're paying Josh Allen, von Miller, Trey White, Stefon Diggs,

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Speaker 1: it because they play like that. But that means that

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Speaker 1: That's not who the Bills weren't necessarily targeting this season.

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Speaker 1: if that is somebody that they believe could plug into

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Speaker 1: story of his career here in Buffalo. He'd flashing games.

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Speaker 1: He flash is against the Cowboys. He's had the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: number whenever the Bills play. The Cowboys dominated against the

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Speaker 1: Lions on Thanksgiving. Yeah, Thanksgiving has been his day to shine.

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Speaker 1: But the consistency has been something that hasn't showed up

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Speaker 1: yet for this player, who by now should be a

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Speaker 1: consistent defensive lineman. And you can look at the line

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Speaker 1: and you could look at Okay, Von Miller didn't finish

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Speaker 1: this season. Last year, Jordan Phillips was in and out

438
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Speaker 1: of the lineup. We know at Oliver looks better when

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Speaker 1: he's got that guy next to him and that guy

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Speaker 1: on the outside that can help take on some of

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Speaker 1: those double teams to free up at Oliver to do

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Speaker 1: some work. Will he have that this season? Can you

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Speaker 1: always say this guy needs somebody next to him to

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Speaker 1: get the best out of him. Well, I think because

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Speaker 1: he is undersized, he does need a guy that demands

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Speaker 1: a double team. Now, in fairness, he did have it

447
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Speaker 1: for sixteen games day. Kwon Jones was a horse for

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Speaker 1: this defense in terms of tying up two guys two

449
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Speaker 1: blockers to let Ed get more one on ones. That

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Speaker 1: and all the time. But I think it was enough

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Speaker 1: of the time to give Ed enough opportunities to really produce.

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Speaker 1: And based on what Sean McDermott's saying, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that the production was on a consistent enough level week

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Speaker 1: to week and I would agree, it just wasn't there

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Speaker 1: on a weekly basis the way it should be. Let's

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Speaker 1: not forget a top ten draft choice. It's not like

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Speaker 1: this guy got taken twenty ninth or thirtieth like Greg

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Speaker 1: Rousseau did a couple of years ago. This was the

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Speaker 1: ninth pick in the draft, and I think Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 1: in the nicest way possible, was basically saying, hey, you're

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Speaker 1: on notice, like we need a really consistent season from you.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. His cap number at ten point

463
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Speaker 1: seven is what has led to speculation as hey, maybe

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Speaker 1: this guy could be on the move, Maybe they move

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Speaker 1: him somewhere, because it's clear to me, based on coach

466
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Speaker 1: mcdermot's comment yesterday, they need to see more from him.

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Speaker 1: Any talk of an extension is completely off the table

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned. Number I don't think they

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Speaker 1: have the money to do it or the cap space

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Speaker 1: to do it. I should say that's number one. Number Two,

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Speaker 1: they're clearly don't think he's been consistent enough of a

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Speaker 1: player to warrant a long term contract extension. Number Three,

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Speaker 1: The speculation about possibly moving him is easier said than

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Speaker 1: done because every other personnel guy in the league says,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen enough from that guy either. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I'm backing up a brain struck to sign

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Speaker 1: him to an extension and execute a trade with the Bills.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's multi layered. It's performance related, it's cap related,

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Speaker 1: and it's commodity related if in fact they want to

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Speaker 1: try to move him for some reason. I think what

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Speaker 1: it all shakes out, he's probably going to be here

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Speaker 1: and play on that last year of his rookie deal.

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Speaker 1: And the reason the Bills are fine with that provided

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Speaker 1: they can fit it under the cap, which they can

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Speaker 1: right now, But if they want to acquire other stuff,

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Speaker 1: they may have to make another decision. But if they

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Speaker 1: play with him him under that deal, I think they

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Speaker 1: know they're going to get the best out of Ed

489
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Speaker 1: because Ed once in the next contract. Yeah, there's motivation

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Speaker 1: to bring it every single week if he wants to

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Speaker 1: get his bag at the end of the season, whether

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Speaker 1: it's from the Bills or somebody else. This is a

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Speaker 1: prove it year for at Oliver. They draft him ninth overall.

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Speaker 1: This is your year to prove that you are worth

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Speaker 1: what you were drafted at ninth overall. Can you do it?

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Speaker 1: Can you do it with day Kwon Jones next to you? Again?

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Speaker 1: Can you do it with a healthy at Oliver on

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Speaker 1: the outside. I want to see him succeed because when

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Speaker 1: the games that he has flashed, it is like he

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Speaker 1: is so apparent in those games, like he was the

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Speaker 1: best defensive player on the freak on the field against

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Speaker 1: the Lions. He was the best defensive player on the

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Speaker 1: field in that game. But you'd be hard pressed to

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Speaker 1: say he was that and maybe more than one or

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Speaker 1: two other games all season. And that's that's the rub

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Speaker 1: here with Ed. And I think it not last year,

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Speaker 1: but the year before. I think there was a stretch

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Speaker 1: of games where he started to put it together and

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Speaker 1: that consistency started to show up a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: I think it dropped off this past season. There would

511
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Speaker 1: be games and he did have the ankle injury in

512
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Speaker 1: the opener, yes, and missed some time after that, so

513
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't right there, so you maybe chalk it

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Speaker 1: up to the injury. But down the stretch they really

515
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Speaker 1: needed him more, especially when Von got hurt, and I

516
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Speaker 1: just don't think it was there enough of the time.

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Speaker 1: That was the issue, and it's tough because the his

518
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Speaker 1: college tape he was a game wrecker. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 1: was playing nose tackle, yes, straight up on the center

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Speaker 1: a lot of the time. Two gap, in which is

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Speaker 1: harder to play than the role he plays now is

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Speaker 1: the three technique. We do have to get to our

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Speaker 1: Twitter topic, and it's a poll today, and we know

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Speaker 1: you people love polls so way in that one. Bills

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Speaker 1: live at your leisure. But the main thing we heard

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Speaker 1: from Brandon being yesterday when he met a handful of

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Speaker 1: Western New York reporters, he basically kind of tamped down

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Speaker 1: all of the craziness that's been going on in Western

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Speaker 1: New York. Are we getting DeAndre Hopkins? Are we getting him?

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Speaker 1: He kind of tamped down any enthusiasm for that. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he completely shut the door on it, but

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Speaker 1: I think he made it clear that all the stuff

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Speaker 1: you see flying around in social media should be taken

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Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. So with that in mind,

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Speaker 1: we pose this to you today, with reports of Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: pursuit of DeAndre Hopkins cooled by GM Brandon Bean, what

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Speaker 1: do you believe is most likely for the Bills receiver

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Speaker 1: position going forward from here? A draft A receiver B,

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Speaker 1: make a Hopkins trade, work, C, sign another affordable VET,

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Speaker 1: or D something else and far and away with more

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Speaker 1: than fifty percent of the vote. The respondence to this

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Speaker 1: point thing drafting a receiver is the most likely scenario.

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Speaker 1: We want to know what you think. Eight O three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty one, eight to eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty the number to get on board. And we

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Speaker 1: do have open lines for you, and we're getting too

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Speaker 1: phone calls and segment number two. I can't say I'm surprised.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bills fan base is wise enough to

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Speaker 1: know that we're hard up for cheap labor around here,

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Speaker 1: and that's rookies. Rookie deals not easy to do, not

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Speaker 1: easy to fit DeAndre Hopkins in with the team based

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Speaker 1: on what the cap number is for this team. How

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Speaker 1: are you going to make it work. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: make it work with this. You're going to have people

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Speaker 1: are going to have to leave, like you said this morning,

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Speaker 1: and completely believe people are gonna have to leave dollars

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Speaker 1: out two to be able to bring a guy like

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Speaker 1: that onto your roster. Do you want to do it

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Speaker 1: in the draft where you can afford cheap labor that

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Speaker 1: can be on your team for cheap for several years.

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Speaker 1: So you let us know eight three five fifty one

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty the toll free

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Speaker 1: number to get on board. Open lines for you as

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Speaker 1: we take your phone calls. Next here on one Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Collid to Health Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Maddie Glaid back with you here on a

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Speaker 1: Tuesday one Bill's Live. Steve still out in Flaird and

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. Do you like the way I said that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I am very interested to see the stories he will

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Speaker 1: be bringing back because he is on an adventure, the

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Speaker 1: details of which we will disclose when he returns to

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Speaker 1: the studio on Thursday. Maddie and Chris Trapasso. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we'll be doing the show on Wednesday because I will

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Speaker 1: be out for a day as well, and then back

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. So Steve and I back in the saddle

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Speaker 1: together on Thursday. Maddie and Chris Trapasso handling things for

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Speaker 1: us tomorrow. We appreciate that help, but we want to

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Speaker 1: get to the phones at eight O three five fifty

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty as

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Speaker 1: we are discussing what Brandon Being said yesterday which kind

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Speaker 1: of put a little bit of a cooling off feel

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Speaker 1: on all of the rumors of the Bills pursuit of

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Speaker 1: a DeAndre Hopkins trade. So, with Brandon being cooling things

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Speaker 1: off on that end of things, what do you believe

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Speaker 1: is most likely for the Bills receiver position? A draft

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Speaker 1: a wide out, B, make a Hopkins trade, work C,

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Speaker 1: sign another affordable VET or D something else. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to the phones at eight O three five fifty and

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Speaker 1: baton leadoff today for us is Steve in Syracuse. What

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Speaker 1: do you got for a Steve? You're on one Bill's lives, Okay,

591
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: Mader of economics. If there's made of economics, they're rather

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Speaker 1: see them. If they have to forget about Hopkins to

593
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: go to Beckham, he's out there. All we have to

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Speaker 1: do is think of a contract agreement with him and

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Speaker 1: where if you go to then you've got much more

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00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: in both contracs, draft twice as everything else, plus other

597
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: team's fighting for him. Odell Beckham is in a bad deal.

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Speaker 1: Paul Baker on him. I would think it'd be good though,

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Speaker 1: and in order the matter of economics, but just the

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Speaker 1: same was a man of economics last year too, and

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Speaker 1: what did took one an only best paced rushing round

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Speaker 1: of team. It's all injured anyway, I think that would

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Speaker 1: be the thing to do. All right, Steve, thanks for

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Speaker 1: the call, appreciate it. I mean there are a lot

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Speaker 1: fewer layers to that. Beckham is an option, and Beckham

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Speaker 1: is an option that they've gone after before. There that

607
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: line of communication is already there. He's got players that

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Speaker 1: he played with that are on this team. Von Miller

609
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Speaker 1: has tried to recruit him to this team. Taylor Rapp

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Speaker 1: is another guy who reports are out there that you

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Speaker 1: will joined this team, David Edwards. So you see some

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Speaker 1: rams who are reportedly going to sign with this team,

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Speaker 1: you wonder if he's another piece that could come over

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Speaker 1: here and get work and if a piece like that

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00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: would kind of round out the offense in terms of Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Bills are done making moves and now they're moving

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Speaker 1: on to the NFL Draft. Talented receiver could definitely add

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Speaker 1: to this team. And Brandon Bean hasn't shut the door

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Speaker 1: on Odell Beckham Junior and asked about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he really didn't shut the door on Hopkins either. But

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Speaker 1: I think any even casual observer of the NFL offseason

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Speaker 1: could tell you, as Steve just did in the first

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Speaker 1: call today, there are far fewer layers to getting Beckham

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Speaker 1: in the building than it is to Hopkins, because with Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: it's navigating his cost prohibitive salary as it pertains to

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's cap space. It is trying to perhaps negotiate with

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Speaker 1: Arizona on them possibly agreeing to pay some of that salary,

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Speaker 1: even though to get Hopkins off their roster. And then,

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Speaker 1: as Steve pointed out, it's also compensation and Arizona, which

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Speaker 1: is a team that's presumably, at least by the looks

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Speaker 1: of it, doing a full tear down, they're going to

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Speaker 1: be interested in draft capital, not necessarily players unless you

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Speaker 1: want to send them a very young player who's just

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Speaker 1: beginning his career himself. With Beckham, it's just about getting

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Speaker 1: a deal done and getting him in the door. Now.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that Steve left out is there is

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Speaker 1: competition for Odell Beckham. Junior Giants head coach Brian Dable

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Speaker 1: was just being asked about him today because he did

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Speaker 1: meet with the Giants as well. There were reports out

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Speaker 1: there that he might even meet with the Jets, and

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of other teams, the Cowboys, although they're

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Speaker 1: probably not in the mix now that they've traded for

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. So I would probably say they're not in

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Speaker 1: on it. And I wouldn't rule out the Chiefs so

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Speaker 1: because they just lost Juju Smith, Schuster so and McCole

646
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Speaker 1: Hardman as a matter of fact, So the Chiefs could

647
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Speaker 1: be in on that as well. So it's not as

648
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Speaker 1: easy as oh, just make a deal with him when

649
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: there are other then there are other clubs involved. But yes,

650
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: it is significantly easier than try kind of orchestrate a

651
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: trade for a player the caliber of DeAndre Hopkins with

652
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: a gigantic salary. Let's get back to the phones and

653
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Speaker 1: we go to George in Buffalo next. What do you

654
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: got for us? George? You're on one bills live? Are

655
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Speaker 1: you good? After? The one thing I want to do?

656
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Speaker 1: Uh sort of brought you to touch on is uh

657
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: you would mention like you know, in the first round,

658
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: possibly movement and uh, people maybe being interested in that

659
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: twenty seventh sick but you know, and then you brought

660
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: up you know grabb Our next or third or fourth,

661
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: but you know, at the end of the day, and

662
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: you know came August. You can only keep you know,

663
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: sixty including you know, practice squad. YEP. I'd rather you know,

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Speaker 1: if you look at you know, yeah, we drafted, we

665
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Speaker 1: drafted the linebacker in the third round last year, and

666
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: and Dave Davis was a fourth round Give me the

667
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: best player at twenty seven. I don't care if you know.

668
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: As I'm saying is, you know, you get what you

669
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Speaker 1: get in the third round, and you get what you

670
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: get the fourth hone. Maybe you've got to polish that player.

671
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you're looking at two three years, and I don't

672
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: think that's sort of the timeline we need. If we're

673
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: talking receiver and a middle linebacker. I mean, I'd love

674
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: to see him pick up something at middle linebacker that

675
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: fills their needs. But at the same time, if the

676
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: best tackle somehow or a tackle that slips ten spots

677
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: is on the board, take me a tackle. I don't

678
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: need you know, I'm just saying, you know, there are

679
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: spots like right tackle, inside defensive lineman, spots that need

680
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: to be filled with the best player on the board.

681
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't don't give me an extra third

682
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: round pick that I gotta I've got enough for that,

683
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: and I can't start them, so I need starters, you

684
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'd rather have I'd rather

685
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: have less picks. I'd rather have five quality picks than

686
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: seven or eight picks that I'm half of them might

687
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: come through, half of them might not. And that's all

688
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: my point is. Yeah, I get what you're saying, George,

689
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: totally get it. And with the roster as advanced as

690
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: this one, Maddie, it's a hard team to make. And

691
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: so sixth and seventh round draft choices. Not that the

692
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Bills have a seven, they only have six picks, each

693
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 1: one in each of the first six rounds. They don't

694
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Speaker 1: have a seven this year, and so there's only six

695
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: to begin with. But it's hard to make this roster

696
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Speaker 1: if you're a late round draft choice, with its advanced

697
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: and developed as it is. The only thing is if

698
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: they're sitting at number twenty seven and Brandon Bean believes

699
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: the best player on the board is going to be

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Speaker 1: available at the top of the second round and they

701
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: can acquire another draft pick, they're going to trade out. Well, yeah,

702
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: and I and just to kind of counter what he was,

703
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: our last caller was saying, at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: For personnel executives, the draft is about value. They spend

705
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Speaker 1: all year assessing value to every draft eligible player that

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00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: they believe is deserving a draftable grade, and if the

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00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: value does not match up with where they sit, they're

708
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: more likely to try to move out of there to

709
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: get a better value. Even a little bit later. You

710
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: might be talking like six spots away. Maybe you're picking

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00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: thirty four, pick number two in round two and you

712
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: got an extra three, and I know George doesn't want

713
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: to hear about, you know, an extra three or an

714
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Speaker 1: extra four. But here's the problem. If you're a team

715
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Speaker 1: looking at this draft class and you only have eighteen

716
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: players with first round grades and they're all gone, and

717
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: you only have let's say fifteen more players with second

718
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: round grades, and none of them are at the tippy

719
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: top of round two, you're not going to reach for

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00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: that guy at twenty seven if you're grade on him

721
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: is somewhere in the forties. So it behooves the general

722
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: manager in that case to slide back get some other

723
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: value in the form of another draft choice and do that.

724
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Speaker 1: I get your point about it's hard to make this

725
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: roster and look don't get me wrong. We saw sixth

726
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: and seventh round picks the last few years get plucked

727
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: off of Buffalo's practice squad by other teams. The Eagles

728
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: took Jack Anderson, Rashad wild Goose went to the Jets

729
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: off of Buffalo's practice squad, and those guys are bouncing

730
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: around in the league still right now. Jake from is

731
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: another example, although I never thought he had a chance

732
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: of getting on the field here anyway, with as deep

733
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: as the quarterback room was, but yes, that is that's

734
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: a valid point. Another example. So I get where George

735
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 1: is coming from, but at the end of the day,

736
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: it's about value, and if the personnel executive doesn't feel

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00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: the value fits the pick, they're going to move off

738
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Speaker 1: the pick. More often than not. That's not every case,

739
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: but I would venture to say it's eighty five percent

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Speaker 1: and up as to the amount of times where that

741
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: would be the decision that a GM would making that scenario. Now,

742
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: the other way to look at it, Maddie, is we're

743
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: seeing more and more of these quarterbacks creeping into the

744
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Speaker 1: top half or top two thirds of round one. Hendon

745
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: Hooker is the latest name that's hot right now because

746
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people believe Hendon Hooker is almost exactly

747
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: the same athlete as Anthony Richardson, maybe a tick lower,

748
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: especially coming off an ACL injury, and he is a

749
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: far more advanced passer than Anthony Richardson is. So if

750
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Speaker 1: that guy finds his way up into the top twenty picks,

751
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: what does that do for the Bills? It pushes more

752
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: of the talent down at the positions they're interested in,

753
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 1: and all of these pass rushed talents that are there

754
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: that should come off the board early. So it's pushing receivers, linebackers,

755
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, players like that down the board. Maybe the

756
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: Bills get lucky and they do get what they want.

757
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: The Bills could be sitting at twenty seven trying to

758
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: assess and and we've heard Brandon being say before, you know,

759
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: we do our own mock drafts to try and prepare

760
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: as much as we can for the first round in

761
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, because at twenty seven you really don't

762
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. You try to prepare for

763
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: all the scenarios, but at the end of the day,

764
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: you're not exactly sure who's going to be available that

765
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: that low in the first round of the draft or

766
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: at the end of the first round of draft, and

767
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: if you're if you're hearing from people and you're guessing

768
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: that these quarterbacks and these defensive linemen could come off

769
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: pretty early. You're sitting at twenty seven or twenty eight

770
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: or twenty nine or twenty six, and you're thinking, this

771
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: is a great place to be this year in the

772
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Usually we don't we don't need yet. If

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Speaker 1: you if you don't need a quarterback, usually we don't

774
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: get We don't get this lucky at twenty seven to

775
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: be able to maybe have a few options available that

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00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: we want to go after in the first round. Prior

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00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: to that, I mean they trade it up, yes, last year.

778
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: But you're sitting that low in the draft, and usually

779
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: you're probably thinking, if it's not a quarterback heavy draft,

780
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: if it's not a defensive lineman heavy draft class, you're thinking,

781
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: maybe we just trade out because by the time we're

782
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: on the board, there's truly going to be nobody available.

783
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: So they could be in a pretty good to position

784
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, And as Maddie said, it's impossible to

785
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: know how things are going to shake out of twenty seven.

786
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: If you're sitting at nine, and you can get a

787
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: pretty good read on how things are going to fall

788
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: in front of you, even if there's a trade or two.

789
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: But twenty seven way too many variables. Best to luck.

790
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you might be able to paint some of

791
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: the picture, but you're not going to recognize what it's

792
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: a picture of until draft night, and probably about seven

793
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: picks away when it's you know, seven picks away from

794
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: you being on the clock. So it's a difficult exercise.

795
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: We all know it's an inexact science. Sitting down there

796
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: at twenty seven, your guess is as good as anybody

797
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: as to what's still going to be left on the board.

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00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, Gary and Lockport.

799
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: You're first up after the break, along with others holding

800
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: at eight oh three, five fifty with reports of Buffalo's

801
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: pursuit of DeAndre Hopkins cooled by GM Brandon Bean, what

802
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: do you believe is most likely for the Bills receiver position?

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00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: More of your phone calls next here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned all right, Here we are One Bills Live

805
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: is the show. Chris Brown, Maddie glab with you here

806
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, and we are discussing the cooling of

807
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: the de hop trade talk by none other than Brandon Bean,

808
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: who met with a handful of media members out at

809
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: the owners meetings late yesterday. So we're asking you, knowing

810
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: that that has been cooled somewhat by Brandon, what do

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00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: you believe is most likely for the Bills receiver position

812
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: going forward. Choices are there for you on the Twitter

813
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: poll at one Bills Live. But we go to the

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Speaker 1: phones first, and leading us off here is Gary in Lockport.

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Speaker 1: What do you got for his Gary? Hi, guys, great show,

816
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: by the way, Thanks. Quick question. I'd like to get

817
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: your thoughts or opinions on the inside linebacker position that's

818
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: vacant right now. Do you think they'll fill it from

819
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: within the raster we have now is bail in spector

820
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard or do you think they go after a

821
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: veteran or use the twenty seventh round draft pick to

822
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: get one in the draft like Campbell from Iowa. He's

823
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: pretty good. Why don't you take that one, Maddie? What

824
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: do you think? Thanks? Gary? I think they're going to

825
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: give an opportunity to the guys that we already have

826
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: on this team. I also would not be shocked if

827
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: they decide to draft a linebacker, I think that adds

828
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: to the competition that they would have within that position group.

829
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: I think one more added to that position group completely

830
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: makes sense. There are some great linebackers in this draft

831
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: class that I could see fitting into this defense, and

832
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: I think they can get them at a spot that

833
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: makes sense for the value that's been placed on them.

834
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Speaker 1: I think a second round is good is a good

835
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: round to go after these linebackers that could become starting linebackers.

836
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: It's not like you're spending a big first round pick

837
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: on this guy. Could they spend a first round pick

838
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: on a linebacker, They definitely could if that's how they

839
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: view a linebacker. I'm not sure how they have them

840
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: slated on their draft board, but I would think, like

841
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: I said, Brandon Mina said it, Sean McDermot has said it,

842
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: we owe it to the guys on this team to

843
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: allow them an opportunity to compete for that starting spot.

844
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: I would love for them to draft somebody like Jack Campbell, though, yeah,

845
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: Campbell is like a true middle linebacker. Drew Sanders, the

846
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: Arkansas kid, is an attractive athlete, but he played a

847
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: lot up on the line of scrimmage as an edge

848
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: pass rusher as well. Trenton Simpson is like that too. Yeah,

849
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: Trenton Simpson, I don't know if he's a middle linebacker.

850
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: Some people think he's a weak side linebacker because he's

851
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: a little bit lighter in the pants and he can

852
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: really go, and some people like to put those kinds

853
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: of players out in space, you know, and play on

854
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: the open side, on the weak side of a linebacking unit.

855
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: He has played middle linebacker before, so that is an

856
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: option I wonder because, as you pointed out, John McDermot

857
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Speaker 1: yesterday at the owners meetings said Tyrrell Dodson, Terel Bernard

858
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: Baal in spector will compete for the middle linebacker role.

859
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: He called it an open competition. But he also said

860
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: this that position is the center of the defense, a

861
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: big leadership piece to the defense, a lot of leading

862
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: by example. It's a unique position because of the responsibility

863
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: that comes with it, beyond making your own plays, lining

864
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: everyone up, knowing how we wanted to look defensively. It's

865
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: a lot for a young player, but there's a first

866
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: time for everyone. If the Bills feel like there is

867
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: a rookie in this draft class, that can handle all

868
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: of that, they will draft that player if he's available

869
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: on the board. Now. The last time the Bills had

870
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: a giant, gaping hole at middle linebacker, they drafted a

871
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: guy in tray up to get him. His name was

872
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, and he got taken sixteenth overall if I

873
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: remember right, and they trade it up out of the

874
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: second round into the first again, after already moving up

875
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: to take Josh Allen. They traded it up again to

876
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: get Tremaine Edmonds, and they dropped him into the middle

877
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 1: of their defense and he had to learn on the fly,

878
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: but his background and his football IQ enabled him to

879
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: handle that, and he got better as the years went on.

880
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if they go down that road again,

881
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: because look, I love Baleen Spector, Tyrell Dotson and Terrell

882
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: Bernard as much as the next guy. Dotson was an

883
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: undrafted player, Specter was a seventh round pick, and that

884
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they can't succeed in this league and be

885
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: a starter. We've seen it happen. There are more undrafted

886
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: guys in this league than there are first round picks,

887
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: because there's jobs to fill and there's motivation in those

888
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: guys to scrape and claw and carve out a career

889
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: for themselves. But you heard how important McDermott thinks this

890
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: position is. I am going to be personally stunned if

891
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: they have not drafted a linebacker. If the roster remains

892
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: the same between now in the draft, I will be stunned.

893
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: If they don't take a linebacker in the first or

894
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: second round on Draft Night one or Draft Night two,

895
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: based on how their roster currently sits, it would surprise me. Yeah,

896
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: I thought what Sean said about that position was very

897
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: telling to for what type of player they want in

898
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: that role. It completely makes sense that guy is going

899
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: to be the quarterback of the defense. And I loved

900
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: what he said about this is this person is going

901
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: to have to be a leader when he's on the field.

902
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see if they believe a

903
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: leader is in the NFL draft class. Right, And we

904
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: know how this team and this organization and the personnel

905
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: department loves team captains, and there are a bunch of

906
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: them in the draft at the linebacker position. Which one

907
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: do they think could handle that kind of a role.

908
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: We got to wait and see when we get to

909
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: the end of April, provided there are no other editions

910
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: in free agency. Knowing how tight the cap is, it

911
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: certainly seems to be leaning in the direction of the draft.

912
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but when we

913
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: come back, our number two, Maddie and I are going

914
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: to be joined by Pro Football Focus salary cap analyst

915
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: Brad Spielberger, who's going to talk to us about the

916
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: latest and as the world turns in Baltimore with the

917
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson situation, possible trade partners if Baltimore goes that way,

918
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: and we'll talk some free agency stuff with the Bills

919
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: as well with Brad Spielberger. Next here on One Bills Live,

920
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by Light to Health. All right,

921
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: here we are our number two, Chris Brown, Mandy Glad

922
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: with you on a Tuesday and happy to be joined

923
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: now salary cap analyst for Pro Football Focus one Brad

924
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: Spielberger joins us. And while Brad, we'll probably get into

925
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of how limited the Bills are in

926
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: cap space in just a minute. We have not paid

927
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: nearly enough attention to this Lamar Jackson saga, the Adam

928
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: bomb that he dropped literally on his head. Coach right

929
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: before he addressed the media yesterday on Twitter. You know,

930
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: with his trade request, my question to you, Brad is

931
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: how many layers are we talking about here as to

932
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: why there hasn't been more trade interest on the part

933
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: of other clubs. Knowing how many there are out there

934
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: that are quarterback needy, I do think it is very

935
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: strange to see a handful of clubs that certainly do

936
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: need a quarterback come out and say they are not interested.

937
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: I think for others, maybe the Indianapolis Cults one name

938
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 1: to mention there in particular, they want to wait until

939
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: after the draft, because, excuse me, you can give up

940
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: draft picks in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five

941
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: if you wait until after the draft. So if you're

942
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: a team like Indie with the fourth overall pick, you

943
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: want to be patient here and your mind, you know,

944
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: gave up the thirty second overall pick in twenty twenty

945
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: four and twenty twenty five. So with Lamar and what

946
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: he has requested, how do you envision something like this

947
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: playing out as we approach the NFL Draft and knowing

948
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: that at this point it seems like the raven have

949
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: the upper hand here. That's the other big part of

950
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: it is that unless you are a team that's willing

951
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: to maybe not fully guarantee the entire contract, but navigate

952
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: the waters of a fully guaranteed amount, that is still

953
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: an outlier total. Right. I mean Deshaun Watson's at two

954
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million, John sh Allen's a one hundred million, right.

955
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's and that's basically this gap. Where are

956
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: you at least willing to be closer to Watson on

957
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: that number? Because if you're not, why would Lamar Jackson

958
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: sign the offer sheet anyway? So I agree with you.

959
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens still do have the upper hand

960
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: in this situation. You know, are we gonna get to

961
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: a point where Jackson threatens to not play it all

962
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: this year and you know, go to Levion Bell route

963
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: so to speak. I'm not so sure. It's still thirty

964
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: two and a half million dollars that you're not earning,

965
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: so that that could be the next level in this battle.

966
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: But I think Baltimore is more comfortable with being patient

967
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 1: and just hoping, you know, cooler heads prevail. Okay, So Brad,

968
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have you give me your thoughts on my

969
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: theory as to why Lamar played this card. Yesterday we

970
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: already addressed how there is a stunning lack of trade

971
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: partners coming to the table now, and Lamar is probably

972
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: equally alarmed. So Lamar makes it publicly known that he

973
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: asked for a trade. I am assuming to try to

974
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: spark more interest from other clubs in his services. Here's

975
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: the thing that I think is the fly in the ointment.

976
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: And you tell me what you think he has. He

977
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: can talk to anybody wants, but I gotta believe that

978
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: these gms, for these other clubs that may want him,

979
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna say, well, hold on a second. The Ravens

980
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: for the better part of the last two years have

981
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: been unable to get a deal done with Lamar. Why

982
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: am I going to do all the heavy lifting on

983
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: a new contract extension for Lamar when the Ravens could say, ah, yeah,

984
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: that's all great and thanks, but thanks for negotiating that deal.

985
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna sign Lamar to that deal and he's going

986
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: to stay here. But thanks for all your hard work. Yeah,

987
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that could be a deterrent,

988
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: especially during free agency? Right if you were tying up

989
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: your football administration department and they're trying to you know,

990
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: rate this contract and they can't even you know, sign

991
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: the guys that you're pursuing to fill out the rest

992
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: of your roster. That is a huge part of it.

993
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: Also just again, are they willing to you know, if

994
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: they're not going to go crazy with the fully guaranteed amount,

995
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: then why would they think it's a competitive offer anyway?

996
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: And in the last piece, of course, you know, we

997
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: saw the letter last week about some gentleman named Ken

998
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: Francis reportedly obviously Lamar you know, you know refuted that report,

999
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: but he's apparently calling around the lack of an agent

1000
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: handles all of these things and navigating interest and talking

1001
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: to different clubs, seeing what things could be elsewhere. And

1002
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: so it is a very complicated situation. It's not as

1003
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: simple as they don't think Lamar is a great player

1004
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: or they're not interested in him and anything like that.

1005
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: Is they were talking about a nine figure, you know

1006
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: deal here we're not talking about the Washington Commanders at

1007
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: six billion, but we're talking about a a lot of money.

1008
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: I mean, a life changing amount of money, generations changing

1009
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: amount of money. You can't just you know, gloss over

1010
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: the legal ease and all the intricate details that go

1011
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: into this. So we'll see where Lamar ends up. Maybe

1012
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: it's back on the Ravens in this upcoming season. It

1013
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: could be who knows if he'll even play. I think

1014
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: we're also I think that's going to become a bigger

1015
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: part of the conversation too, if he's not going to

1016
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: get what he wants. Speaking of another quarterback who's kind

1017
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: of out there right now, Aaron Rodgers owners meetings, Jets,

1018
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: Jets clan, and the Packers clan. They're playing nice in

1019
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: the sandbox right now, but we're approaching a few weeks

1020
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: out here from the NFL Draft soon, it's going to

1021
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: be less than a month. When does the ball start

1022
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: rolling on this deal? That's the thing, right is. I

1023
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: do think for starters, the Jets getting that extra second

1024
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: round pick when they traded wide receiver Elijah Moore to

1025
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, maybe that pick is notable and could

1026
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: be then quickly shipped off to Green Bay. But you

1027
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,959
Speaker 1: said we have less than a month now thirty days

1028
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: until the draft. You have to, in theory, be very

1029
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: close to a compensation package, otherwise you are only going

1030
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: to get you twenty twenty four draft capital, So I

1031
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: think it will ramp up. It sounds like the bigger

1032
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: issue is they're gonna put conditions on the future draft

1033
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: picks because you know, there's a risk that Rogers retires

1034
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: after one season. And of course, from the Packers standpoint,

1035
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: they probably say, I don't care if he plays one year,

1036
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: if he wins a Super Bowl, we don't want to

1037
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: be sitting here with, you know, a second round pick

1038
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: and whatever. So that is the conversation, is what is

1039
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: the upside for Green Bay if it goes very well?

1040
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: And what is the upside for the Jets if he

1041
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: comes in, makes sixty million dollars, the Jets go eight

1042
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: to nine in a tough AFC East Division, and then

1043
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: he calls it quits and hangs up his fleet. So

1044
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: I think it will get done. But you're right, there

1045
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: is about, you know, three and a half four weeks

1046
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: where this needs to get done. Otherwise it's a whole

1047
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: separate issue of you know, is the twenty twenty four

1048
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: compensation enough, Like it's a whole new Pandora's box. And

1049
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: then with free agency in general, Brad, I mean, this

1050
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: is the practice that we're witnessing. This offseason is something

1051
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: that actually Brandon Bean has done for several years. He's

1052
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: big on one year deals not only to maintain flexibility

1053
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: year over year with your cap, but I think there's

1054
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: also the idea of motivating. You know, I'm no I'm

1055
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: getting a motivated player on a one year deal because

1056
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: they want to maximize their value when they go back

1057
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: into free agency the next year. And now it seems

1058
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: like the entire league has signed up for one year deals.

1059
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: I have never seen so many in a free agent

1060
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: period in my life. What do you think are the

1061
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: main reasons that we are seeing the number of one

1062
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: year deals that we've seen to this point. It's a

1063
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: great question. I do think one part of it you

1064
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,959
Speaker 1: touched on already. Not only are they one year deals

1065
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: so motivating guys to get back on the market, they're

1066
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: also full of incentives, right, So it's if you don't

1067
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: hit these certain statistical benchmarks or playtime benchmarks, you're not

1068
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: going to make additional money, which, of course is the

1069
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: motivation to come in, be prepared and play well. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think we are league wide seeing a shift to

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00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: shorter deals, even for you know, the big name players.

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Speaker 1: You look at last offseason. All the wide receivers that

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00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: go out there and reset the market, you know, Deebo,

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00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: Samuel DK, Metcalf, Terry McLaurin. Those are all three year extensions.

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00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean that is notable and different, and so I

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00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: think everyone and it ties into Lamar Jackson conversation. If

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00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: you're an agent or a player and a big name, A,

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00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: you want to get back to the market as fast

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00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: as possible. And B. If there's no fully guaranteed money

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00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: or partially guaranteed money in the fourth or fifth year,

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00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: which is very rare, why would you give a team

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00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: more control over you and more rights to your you know,

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00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: to your play over those years. So I think that

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00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: shift is also part of it, where you know, everything

1085
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: then trickles down. But it is interesting, I mean, good players,

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00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: guys that you would imagine teams want to keep around

1087
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: for three four years signing these one year flyers. It

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00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: was just a very weak market across the board. And

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00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: it has been interesting how different it's been the years past.

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00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: We knew the Bills weren't gonna swing big in free agency.

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00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Being told us, you know, von Miller is our

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00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: big free agent signing this year as well. Because of

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00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: how much we're paying somebody like him with how they

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00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: how they acted during free agency, the guys that they signed,

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00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: How do you look at what they did in free agency,

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00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: the type of players that they signed, and just the

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00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: talent that they're bringing on to some people on the

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00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: offense and also guys on the defense. It was reported

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00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: that Taylor Rap will be added to the Bill's roster

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00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: as well. That hasn't become official yet, but kind of

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00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: how do you look at their free agency moves? Yeah,

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00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, I pray he's been a bunch and it

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00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: hasn't really worked out, but I think the process has

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00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: been sound and that he's throwing a lot of resources

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00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: at interior offensive lying and never making the huge splash,

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00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: maybe going for the biggest contract, but consistently churning over

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00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: the roster and adding talent there. So Connor mcgovernment from Dallas,

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00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: he settled in. He kind of moved around the offensive

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00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: line the last couple of years. They finally put him

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00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: at left guard starting in I S a week six

1111
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: or so this year and through the rest of the

1112
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: season was a top ten pass blocking guard for us

1113
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: UM and was really really good in a lot of

1114
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: underlying metrics, pressure rate, you know, the the amount of

1115
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: snaps he gets beaten by the defender, all those things.

1116
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: So like that move, and I do think they needed

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01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: more help on offense. Deontay Hardy is that guy that

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01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: can have you know, thirty catches for six hundred yards

1119
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: because they're all these big, you know, explosive downfield receptions,

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Speaker 1: or he gets the ball in his hands, makes some

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01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: guys miss and breaks off a big gainer. So like

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Speaker 1: those moves a ton and then yeah, retaining Jordan Poyer

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01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: and bringing in it, you know, a box safety, but

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01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: but a you know, a good athlete and Taylor Rap

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01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: you can move around. You can have some three safety looks,

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01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, with Michael Hide employer, he can kind of

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01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: be a pseudo linebacker type. And some packages. I think

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Speaker 1: they've been smart. We have learned of the details there,

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01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: but I doubt it's some some gigantic contract. I think

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01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: for the limited resources they had available, they've done a

1131
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: pretty good job. And yet even with you know, Deontay

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Speaker 1: Hardy in the fold. Now, your most recent mock draft

1133
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: had Zay Flowers going to the Bills at twenty seven.

1134
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Speaker 1: Do you think he is enough of a different type

1135
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: of receiver to that of Hardy, that he could find

1136
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: a role different than the one Hardy is expected to occupy. Yeah,

1137
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: it's a good question. They are both kind of smaller, shifty,

1138
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: speedy guys. You know. I think again, you talk about

1139
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: the two year deal for Hardy, so not a long

1140
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: term commitment. He could become maybe more of a you know,

1141
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: really focus on returning the football in the punt game

1142
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: and the kickoff game. And then is still you know,

1143
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: a depth option to the wide receiver four in this scenario. Look,

1144
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: Flowers is small, and I think everyone's putting him in

1145
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: the slot. I think he can play out wide at times.

1146
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: Obviously you have Digs and Gabriel Davis out there, but

1147
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: I think he does make a lot of sense for them.

1148
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: You know, his speed, his route running the smoothest which

1149
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: he plays is different than a Hardy. I think is

1150
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: more of a straight line athlete. So yes, I still do.

1151
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: I can tell you they had still talked to a

1152
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: couple other free agent wide receivers after they signed Yancey Hardy.

1153
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: As of now, they've not been able to come to

1154
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: agreement with any of those guys. Some of them did

1155
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: sign elsewhere, but they are still looking and that is

1156
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: why I mocked them hitting a receiver in the first round.

1157
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: We were talking about this in the segment before, just

1158
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: about the place that the Bills are in the first

1159
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: round at twenty seven and with some of these other

1160
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks being brought up in a first round conversation, like

1161
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: Hennon Hooker and some of the defensive linemen that will

1162
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: come off the board early in the first round. Are

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Speaker 1: the Bills and some teams around that number twenty seven spot.

1164
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: Do you think they're in a good position this year,

1165
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: knowing that possibly you could get into pick number ten

1166
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: around there before some of these different types of position

1167
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: groups start to come off the board. Definitely, I think

1168
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: you are going to see some of that with not

1169
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: one wide receiver, but some of the offensive line talent

1170
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: and some of the defensive line talent. There's I don't

1171
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: think a lot of people view any guy as a

1172
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: can't miss prospect or a generational prospect or any of that.

1173
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: But there is a lot of depth along the defensive line,

1174
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: and I think some guys will fall into that twenty

1175
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: seven range. You get some insurance for an at oliver,

1176
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: you add some more young talent. I don't have done

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01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: that a lot at that position group, but I would

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01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: find that interesting. And also a tackle prospect. If a

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01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: guy falls, I think they could still look to improve,

1180
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: even if it's a swing tackle to start, maybe getting

1181
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: another tackle prospect in the building. And the flip side too,

1182
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: You're talking about guys like Hendon Hooker also at twenty seven.

1183
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: Maybe a trade down spot and a team that's sitting

1184
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: in the early thirties that wants to come up for

1185
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You get a nice trade package, you get

1186
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: some extra picks, you can confuse more young talent. I

1187
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: think they're in a good position for that as well. Potentially. Yeah,

1188
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of what the Ravens did to go up

1189
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: and get Lamar Jackson back in the twenty eighteen draft,

1190
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: last pick in the first round. Being the salary cap

1191
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: guy that you are, Brad, The bills are getting tighter

1192
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: and tighter here. Brandon, being basically with a couple of

1193
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: reporters yesterday out in Arizona, said, if we do anything else,

1194
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like one year deals for less than

1195
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: two million a year, which has been what the last

1196
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: several deals have been, including the reported Tailor Rap deal,

1197
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: which is only a one year also, So with that

1198
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: in mind, how many how many more of those do

1199
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: you think they could fit while still accounting for room

1200
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: for their rookie pool and knowing that you know when

1201
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: you finally assemble the roster in the fall. The practice

1202
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: squad these days at sixteen people costs about three and

1203
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: a half million. Yeah. No, there's a lot of expenses,

1204
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: get to account for ir and replacing some players that

1205
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: get hurt as well. I don't think it's still make

1206
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: two or three small moves. Like you said, it had

1207
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: to be the right price, the right fit. I think

1208
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: a swing tackle like I mentioned could make a bunch

1209
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: of sense. There's still a lot of guys out there

1210
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: that would fit that role of Cameron Fleming at George

1211
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: Fan just a couple names, I think, guys that can

1212
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: play both side. They're not looking for big money and

1213
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: can maybe fit in that and that you know that

1214
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: that money frame for them, so not a time. They

1215
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: are pretty tight. He's not lying about that, He's not

1216
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: using the cap as an excuse by any means. But

1217
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: they can make a couple of small moves here and

1218
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: there if they if it fits. I know you mentioned

1219
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: those short term contracts But last question for me, is

1220
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: there anything that you learned about the salary cap via

1221
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: free agency this se season that you think is different

1222
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: or interesting than other seasons, or maybe something that you

1223
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: think will happen in several years to come based on

1224
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: how teams have acted with that cap number increasing year

1225
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: after year. Yeah, it's a great question, you know. I

1226
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,959
Speaker 1: really do think we are seeing kind of the top

1227
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: of markets has become so exponential. I think interior defensive

1228
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: line is the one you're going to see this offseason.

1229
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: It was a wide receiver last year, and that's why

1230
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: some of the free agent deals were massive. And I

1231
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: think that's why in a lot of areas, like we

1232
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: mentioned that the cheap one year flyers, I think the

1233
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: middle market is kind of getting pinched a little bit.

1234
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: And guys are the saying, our teams are saying, either

1235
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: we want to sign top of market with our internal players,

1236
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: or we're going to really cost cut and go really

1237
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: cheap in free agency. And maybe there's a counter to that,

1238
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: and then you can get value out of some of

1239
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: those mid tier veterans where you're still getting something of

1240
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: a discount even though you are paying you know, more

1241
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: than the one year flyers. So, like you said, like

1242
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: being almost kind of head of this curve a little bit,

1243
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: and maybe now in the future, if they have some

1244
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, more cap flexibility, they can counter to their

1245
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: own CounterPunch and find some value in the middle. Yeah,

1246
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: the middle keeps getting squeeze though, Brad, I tend to

1247
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: agree with you there. Pretty soon there's gonna be no

1248
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: middle market left unless the cap increases exponentially. And while

1249
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna go up, I'm not totally confident.

1250
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: We're looking at exponential increases that could change the course

1251
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: of how these guys are doing business in free agency. Brad, thanks,

1252
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: as always for the time. We appreciate it. We'll catch

1253
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: up with you again this offseason. Thanks for the time,

1254
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. All right, that's Pro Football Focus

1255
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: Salary Cap analyst Brad Spielberger joining us kind of giving

1256
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: us the lay of the land and the landscape in

1257
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: free agency thus far. And that's what we're seeing, Maddie.

1258
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: Like in the early few, first few days of free agency,

1259
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: some of the big names get the big giant money.

1260
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: What we used to see in week two was some

1261
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: people signing some pretty respectable mid level deals. Those were

1262
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: non existent this year is I think half the league

1263
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: was tight on the cap. Number One, the money's getting

1264
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: stupid at some positions. Number Two, there's no money left,

1265
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: and so even guys that should be signing those mid

1266
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,439
Speaker 1: level deals are settling for one year deals this year,

1267
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: hoping that the cap goes up precipitously next year so

1268
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: they can make more money in the market next offseas.

1269
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: And you wonder if there's ever if this is the

1270
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: way the NFL is trending. You wonder if there's ever

1271
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: going to be a year where the cap meets the

1272
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: requirements of what teams are trying to do and what

1273
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: players are demanding to where that middle part does exist again,

1274
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: or if there's a scenario or a world where we

1275
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: live in And it's really hard to imagine something like

1276
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: this with the NFL, where those top tier guys it

1277
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: stops growing at the rate it's been growing out. But

1278
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: once you have players that reset a market, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to come down from something like that. And I think

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: that's why you have owners in this league who are

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01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: very hesitant to fully guarantee contracts, particularly at the quarterback position,

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01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: because once you do that, now you're squeezing that middle

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01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: market even more, and I think you'll pretty much eliminate

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01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: it if you have to go down that road with quarterbacks,

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: and we might be inevitably heading there. But I think

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01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns may have accelerated it with the guaranteed

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01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: deal for Deshaun Watson, which we'll see how he plays

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01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: this year, but it's not it didn't look too good

1289
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: last year with his first chance back on the field.

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01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: We'll see if that changes coming up this season. Other

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01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: stuff that we wanted to get to that we did

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 1: not have time for yesterday was the comments made by

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01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: one Sean McDermott when he was asked by NFL Networks

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01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: Judy Bautista about Josh's style of play and the willingness

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01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: to run with the ball and expose himself to hits.

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01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: As we all know, Josh doesn't slide nearly as much

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: as I would think his coaching staff would want him to,

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01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 1: or even run out of bounds as much as they

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01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: would want him to. He's captain stiff arm and leaping

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01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: over people and fighting for extra yardage, which is all admirable.

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't deny for a second that a Jack's

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01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 1: team up on the sideline, but at the same time

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01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: it exposes him to risk that makes head coach Sean

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01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: McDermott very nervous, and he's hoping that Josh going forward

1305
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: can find a place whereas McDermott said, it's quote unquote workable,

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 1: which basically means, hey, if you have to get a

1307
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: yard on a money down, go get it. But let's

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01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: not make a habit of that on downs and distances

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: where it's simply not necessary live to play another down

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01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: and don't expose yourself to a risk a higher risk

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01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: of injury going forward. I think it's a tough balance, Maddie.

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01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: Where do you come down on it? Him down on it?

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01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 1: This has been I feel like this is going to

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01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: be a conversation that is a part of Josh Allen's

1315
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: career just because of the way that he plays quarterback.

1316
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,480
Speaker 1: I think that is part of what makes him almost

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: superhuman in the NFL and what he's able to do

1318
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: and what sets him apart from other NFL quarterbacks is

1319
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 1: his ability to use his legs with the size that

1320
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: he has and the power that he has when he

1321
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: decides to run with the football. I don't want that

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01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: ever taken away from him. But I do believe there's

1323
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: a balance of like, hey, buddy, probably not the best

1324
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: decision right there, or got to have it down. He

1325
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: sees an opening, maybe he gets roughed around a little bit,

1326
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 1: but good decision. Yes, So I see both sides of it.

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01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't want it completely taken away, and I don't

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: want him to get too scared to the point where

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01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 1: he's not doing it because he's been told so much

1330
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: that yeah, you should sway away from something like this,

1331
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 1: or you should not go you should not seek this

1332
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: out as much as you do, which I don't know

1333
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: if Josh would ever get scared of something because that

1334
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: I was going to say. I tend to doubt that

1335
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: that's not Josh Allen because he's been told that the

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01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 1: last five years and what we've seen has anything change? No,

1337
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: not really. I was trying to find that there was

1338
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: a stat last year and I think it was mid

1339
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: or end season and it was like the Bills are

1340
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't remember what their record was. Far more wins

1341
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: versus loss when Josh Allen losses, When Josh Allen has

1342
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: ten or more attempts in a game, yeah, rushing attempts, Yeah,

1343
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: rushing attempts. Yes, yeah, it is a fat number if

1344
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: I remember right, um, And I don't remember off the

1345
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: top of my head trying to find it, but I

1346
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: think it was only like one loss. Yeah, I want

1347
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: to say it was that lopsided. Um, so I understand it.

1348
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: But I think what we've learned, just being around Brandon,

1349
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: being in Sean McDermott as long as we have now

1350
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: is what is this year seven with these two guys,

1351
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, undertaking this regime. I think one thing we've

1352
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: learned about those two guys, among a number of things,

1353
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: is they really lean on their past experience to help

1354
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: them make better decisions going forward. And I think it's

1355
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: very hard for both of them. Having witnessed the decline

1356
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 1: of Cam Newton's career as a quarterback, I think it

1357
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: has them genuinely concerned that Josh could be threatening to

1358
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: shorten his own career in much the way Cam Newton's

1359
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: career fell off a cliff when he had two shoulder

1360
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: injuries that required surgery among other injuries, because he ran

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01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: as much as he did. Now, I think we should

1362
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: point out that from a rushing perspective, I believe Cam

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01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: Newton's rushing attempts were more numerous, particularly in the first

1364
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: five years of his career. One two, three, four, five,

1365
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: I got it in front of me, six, seven, eight.

1366
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: The first eight years of his career, Cam Newton ran

1367
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: the ball more than one hundred times in seven of

1368
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: those eight seasons, and the only reason he didn't in

1369
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen was because he was injured and missed two starts.

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01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: So this was a guy that logged over a hundred

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01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: carries as a quarterback in seven of his first eight years,

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01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: and the only year he didn't he ran at ninety

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: times and he was extraordinarily productive. But the injuries he

1374
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: incurred really cost him, because in twenty nineteen he plays

1375
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: in only two games. They shut him down completely shoulder

1376
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: surgery at age thirty, age thirty, maddie. And then we

1377
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: saw the season he had in New England as the starter.

1378
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: He started fifteen games and he couldn't throw the football,

1379
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: bounce passes on ten yard outs. I mean it was alarming.

1380
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: He fell off a cliff and he still maintains he

1381
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: can play now. Of course he does. He's thirty two

1382
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: years old. That's a quarterback's prime in most cases, and

1383
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: I hate to say it but he's washed. He can't

1384
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 1: play anymore. And I think that's where the concern sits

1385
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott and Brandon b Yeah, it makes sense.

1386
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: It's a valid point. I totally understand where they're coming from,

1387
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: knowing what Cam Newton did in his NFL career and

1388
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: knowing what he could have been, knowing how much more

1389
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: he had left in the tank. But because of the

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01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: way he played his NFL career, like you said, fell

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: off a cliff. I would love for Cam Newton to

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01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: still be in the NFL. I was such a big

1393
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: Cam Newton fan. I still am. I I don't think

1394
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: he has what it takes anymore because of the wear

1395
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 1: and tear on his body. But imagine an NFL with

1396
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: the way the game is played today with somebody like

1397
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's still in it, right, And also think about this,

1398
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people look at Josh Allen

1399
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: as a twenty six year old quarterback soon to turn

1400
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: twenty seven. I believe at some point this season, I

1401
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: think his birthdays in May, he'll turn twenty seven this

1402
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: year and people are like, ah, we got a quarterback

1403
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 1: for the next ten years. Well, if he plays like

1404
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Cam Newton was done at age thirty and

1405
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: hung on for two more seasons at substandard play. If

1406
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: that's the case and Josh Allen wants to play that way,

1407
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: you're looking at four or five more years, not ten.

1408
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 1: That's why I think the alarm bells are going off

1409
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 1: for Sean McDermott in terms of trying to make it

1410
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: at least workable as to how he plays going forward.

1411
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: We'll take a break here, but when we come back,

1412
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: we'll crack open the tweet sheet. We've yet to get

1413
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: to that as we are taking a Twitter poll today.

1414
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: With the talk on a d hop trade cooling to

1415
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: some extent, what do you think is the most likely

1416
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: scenario that happens next at the Bills receiver position. We'll

1417
01:15:52,720 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 1: discuss that next year on One Bills Live. All Right,

1418
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: we are back Chris Brown, Maddy glab with you here

1419
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday one Bills Live, and we are discussing

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01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll today with the talk on adhop trade

1421
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 1: cooled somewhat by Brandon Bean when he met some members

1422
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: of the media yesterday in Arizona. What do you believe

1423
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: is the most likely scenario for the Bills receiver position?

1424
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: Going forward, and your choices are draft a receiver, make

1425
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: a Hopkins trade, work sign another affordable veteran receiver, or

1426
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: something else, and running away with it is drafting a receiver.

1427
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: Let's see what you're saying on the tweet sheet, which,

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01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: as we know, is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

1429
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Jack

1430
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: lead us off and says, I still want to make

1431
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: a trade happen while I know money and asset cost

1432
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: will be considerable. Hopkins, like Lofton in eight ninety, could

1433
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: put the Bills over the top. When On he is

1434
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: uncoverable and we can't let Casey get him to use

1435
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: against us. That's in all caps, by the way, with

1436
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: an exclamation point. Besides no guarantee a draft pick works

1437
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,759
Speaker 1: out and may need time. That is a valid point, man, Yes,

1438
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: the receiver, the rookie receiver point is a valid one.

1439
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: That's what I think of most. If they are going

1440
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: to go after a wide receiver in the first round

1441
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: and choose to forego DeAndre Hopkins, Odell Beckham Junior or

1442
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: any other veteran names out there, is a wide receiver

1443
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: gonna hit in the first round. Is it gonna work

1444
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 1: out for you like to like it worked out for

1445
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson in the trade that the Bills had. Yeah,

1446
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 1: that's one of the most fair trades there ever was

1447
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: because it worked out for both sides of the both

1448
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: both sides of the trade. But is there a wide

1449
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: receiver in this draft clouds us that will fit into

1450
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 1: this offense? Is not what the Bills already have on

1451
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 1: this current roster and is going to take this team

1452
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: to the next level? I don't know, And it's so

1453
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: hard to predict something like that. Yeah, and even if

1454
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 1: they take somebody, you know, there's no guarantees with anything.

1455
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you could trade for John Dre Hopkins and

1456
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: he could pop a hamstring the first day of training camp.

1457
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean anything, you know, anything's possible. But I think

1458
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 1: the general consensus on this draft class at the receiver

1459
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: position is that A it's down from what it's been

1460
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. B it doesn't really have

1461
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: a true alpha male receiver. And see the general sweet

1462
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: spot in terms of value is deemed to be Day two,

1463
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: second and third round. Is that enough to put the

1464
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: Bills over the top. I don't know, which is why

1465
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: Jack would like to see the trade happen because he

1466
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: believes acquiring DeAndre Hopkins would do the trick. And it's

1467
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 1: an interesting comparison that he makes. James Lofton comes to

1468
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: the Bills in eighty nine ninety and all of a sudden,

1469
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: the Bills are a super Bowl team because now you've

1470
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: got James loft and Andre Reid and Don Beebe as

1471
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: your top three. Not bad. So, yeah, it did change

1472
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: the fortunes of the Bills back in the early nineties.

1473
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: Do you take that chance again here and either give

1474
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: up some sizeable assets compromise your cap in the next

1475
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: year or two. There's just so many layers to it.

1476
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: You wonder if it's worth all of that. Some people

1477
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: would say, well, if you're putting a Super Bowl ring

1478
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: on your finger, you're darn right it's worth it, and

1479
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 1: the hell with twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five.

1480
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way Brandon Bean thinks. He

1481
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: said as much, so he's got to really be wrestling

1482
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: with it if it's something he is in fact considering.

1483
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 1: Richard on the tweet sheet says, I think they roll

1484
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: with what they have. Davis was injured last year and

1485
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: will turn with a chip on his shoulder. I think

1486
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: they will shore up running back with the top pick,

1487
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: either one of the top two running backs or game breakers,

1488
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: and will give Josh more time to find his receivers.

1489
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: Do you think they add a running back now that

1490
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: they've signed Damian Harris. I don't know that they do.

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01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't think they do. That's my opinion. I could

1492
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: be completely wrong, Yeah, but I don't think they do.

1493
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And I know everybody's hot and

1494
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: bothered about Bijean Robinson, but I'm stunned if that guy

1495
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: gets past the Chargers at twenty one. Who might be

1496
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 1: losing Austin Eckler. Yeah, you know what I mean. So

1497
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: here's another question, maybe maybe a part of the other

1498
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 1: in this poll. Yeah, let me hear it. Draft a

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01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: tight end, Well, that is a pivot point. Like Steve

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01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: and I even mentioned that back at the combine, you

1501
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: don't have a true alpha male at the receiver position. Yeah,

1502
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: but you do have one of the strongest tight end

1503
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: classes in the last decade according to all the draft experts,

1504
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: and there is one guy that is considered far and

1505
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: away the best athletic tight end in the entire class,

1506
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: and that's Dalton Kincaide from Utah, and he might be

1507
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: the only guy that merits first round consideration. And that

1508
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 1: is a place where you can pivot and say, well,

1509
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: we don't like what the receiver position can do to

1510
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: help our offense right away, but holy crow, I love

1511
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: that kin cave kid. So it is an option. I

1512
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: don't think there's any question about that. It'd be a

1513
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: nice way to pivot and still add what you feel

1514
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 1: you need to your passing game. Jay McKinney on the

1515
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: tweet sheet says a de Hoop trade is not happening.

1516
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: Cards want a McCaffrey like trade that we saw San

1517
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 1: Francisco execute with Carolina last year. Bills need to move on.

1518
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: Maybe work on the Broncos for a second rounder for

1519
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: Judy as a more realistic option. Although Sean Payton said

1520
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: today at the owners meetings, Jerry Judy or sorry he

1521
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: said yesterday because he's an AFC coach now I keep

1522
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: thinking of him in the NFC. He said yesterday that

1523
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton and Jerry Judy are not for sale, So

1524
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't sess knowing the offensive mind that he is.

1525
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: I think the last thing he wants to do is

1526
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,759
Speaker 1: get rid of two veteran receivers. So that doesn't surprise

1527
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: me that he said that. Rick on the tweet sheets says,

1528
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 1: Bean needs to make a move. The Fins and the

1529
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: Jets are ahead of the Bills right now. A lot

1530
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: of people have them winning the division. I am so

1531
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 1: sick of this next year crap. This draft class is trash.

1532
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: Rick is pretty hot. Tell me how you really feel, Rick,

1533
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: I guess when he says the Jets and the Dolphins

1534
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: are ahead of the Bills in his mind, I think

1535
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: he's talking specifically about the receiver position, which number one

1536
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: and number two receivers they are better in Miami. Waddle

1537
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: and Hill in New York might be a little more

1538
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: debatable because you're talking Garrett Wilson and right now Alan

1539
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: Lazard as the two, and then mcole Hardman is probably

1540
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: your three. They trade away Elijah more So, I think

1541
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: that's a little bit more debatable. I still might be

1542
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 1: taking the Bills guys over the Jets. You want to

1543
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: argue Dolphins, I'm with you, those top two are better.

1544
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: I won't debate that. Our f on the tweet sheet

1545
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 1: says need to push us over the top. Our offense

1546
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: struggles bad when Diggs is taken away. The need for

1547
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: a three level wide receiver to roll coverage back away

1548
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: from Steph or to make the d pay is key.

1549
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 1: I love Gabe, but as of now he isn't it

1550
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: not ready to rely on a rookie to learn and

1551
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: get up to speed right now? That seems to be

1552
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: the prevailing opinion. Maddie can't trust the draft class to

1553
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: come in and go for it year and get an

1554
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: eighty or a ninety catch season out of a rookie

1555
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: and have to do a lot. Right, we're drafting you,

1556
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: and here you are. You're going to be our number

1557
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: two or a number three depending on where they slot him,

1558
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: and you're going to play a lot, and this is

1559
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: what we need out of you. Yeah, could those answers

1560
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: already be on this team? Could Gabe Davis take that

1561
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: big step that he needs to take this year? Last

1562
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: year was John four? I mean, and usually in year

1563
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 1: three has when a lot of the players here have

1564
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: taken off to Austin Knox in year three, Tarn Johnson

1565
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: in year three, A bunch of other players in year

1566
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,879
Speaker 1: three really took off as far as their play is concerned.

1567
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: I know they're hoping that Greg Rousseau takes off in

1568
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 1: year three here coming up. So it's year four already

1569
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: for Gabe. The clock is ticking. Let's go back to

1570
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 1: the phones and we go to Scott in Tonawanda. Next.

1571
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: What do you got for a Scott? You're on one

1572
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: bills live. Thank you. First of all, I like Rick's tweet.

1573
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: I like his attitude. I think it's the attitude that

1574
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: our general manager should have. Actually, you were talking about

1575
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's window, and it's it's quite scary if you

1576
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: think about it. That's why I say we have to

1577
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: go after DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, I know that they're

1578
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: saying that we're trying and mister Matt, but if they

1579
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: I really want to win a Super Bowl soon like

1580
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: next year or the year after. We have to get

1581
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: top match players. Like you said, we can't depend on

1582
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: rookies to come in and just still right in. Yeah,

1583
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: I think anybody with half of a football brain would say,

1584
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: if DeAndre Hopkins comes to Buffalo, we're unstoppable. I really

1585
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: think that. Thank you. Yeah, I get it, Scott, I do.

1586
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: I think it's more. I think a lot of people

1587
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: feel on the outside, you know, fans, I think they

1588
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: think the main obstacle here is compensation. I don't think

1589
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 1: it's compensation. I think it's the money and getting it

1590
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: all to fit. Because Hopkins is at almost nineteen million

1591
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 1: dollar base this year, it's almost fifteen the next year.

1592
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,759
Speaker 1: You're talking thirty four million dollars over the next two years.

1593
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: And I know Hopkins has said he would make some

1594
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: concessions on his money to go somewhere where he can

1595
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: in but what are what is that is he taken

1596
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 1: five million less, so it's only twenty nine million. I

1597
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: still don't think they can fit that unless money is

1598
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: going out and they're sending them a player instead of

1599
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: draft capital. And I gotta believe Arizona, who is rebuilding,

1600
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: wants draft capital. Yeah, definitely. And like you said, even

1601
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: if even if DeAndre Hopkins comes down, is it worth

1602
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: it for the Bills? How much shifting and moving do

1603
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: the Bills have to do to be able to open

1604
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: their arms open open the roster to a player like this?

1605
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: And you hear Brandon Bean talk about the future of

1606
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: this team and the fact that he does not want

1607
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: to be a one and done type of team he

1608
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: wants to be a team that's going to be good

1609
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future, a team that's going to be

1610
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:48,879
Speaker 1: good four years to come, not just for twenty twenty three.

1611
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 1: And when he's trying to make these decisions to see

1612
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: how is this roster going to come together? Do we

1613
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: have space for a star like this? I wonder what

1614
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 1: going through his mind. This is what I think it is.

1615
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: Last year, I thought he was the most aggressive we

1616
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: have ever seen him in free agency when maybe the

1617
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: space wasn't there. Took a big swing and signed Von

1618
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: Miller and made it work. Put a few more eggs

1619
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two basket. How did it go?

1620
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: Von got hurt? Von got hurt on Thanksgiving, so did

1621
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: a slew of other players, and you had the Damar

1622
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: Hamlin situation. It was a tough haul the entire season

1623
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: and it didn't go as planned. Now, if you do

1624
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: that again this year, you probably got to do somewhat

1625
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: of a teardown next year. I don't think he wants

1626
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: to do it based on how last year worked out. Yeah,

1627
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: so I'd be surprised if it happens. We take a

1628
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: break here, But Mattie and I close things up next year.

1629
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid of Health, It's

1630
01:27:50,000 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. You're all One Bills Live. Chris Brown

1631
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: Mandy Glab wrapping up a Tuesday edition of One Bills Live.

1632
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: And I would say that the chief concern here, Maddie,

1633
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: with the whole d hop discussion is proven commodity is

1634
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: much preferred, but comes with a lot of complications, and

1635
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 1: it still comes with a lot of question marks. Like

1636
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: you said in the last segment, how did last your

1637
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: work out for the Bills after they added quite a

1638
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 1: bit of talent, Von Miller got hurt, not saying that

1639
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: somebody like DeAndre Hopkins would get hurt, but you just

1640
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: you don't know if it's gonna pay off like you

1641
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna pay off. I mean, every decision

1642
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 1: you make in anything, let alone be in a general

1643
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: manager of an NFL football team, comes with some measure

1644
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: of risk, maybe in football more than any other sport.

1645
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you can get injured in any sport, but

1646
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 1: it's a collision sport, and so the risk is probably higher,

1647
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: especially for people to carry the ball or try to

1648
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: catch the ball like DeAndre Hopkins. But I think some

1649
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 1: fans are getting a little antsie here now that the

1650
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: Bills have been to the playoffs, you know, nineteen twenty,

1651
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two, and they can't get to the

1652
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: big game, and they're like, come on, come on, we

1653
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: gotta do something. We gotta do something that's gonna make

1654
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: the difference and put us over the top. And that's

1655
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: why Jack's tweet was so interesting, drawing the parallel to

1656
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 1: James Lofton pretty interesting. Maddie, thanks for your help today.

1657
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: You'll be in here with Chris Trapasso tomorrow, Steve and

1658
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: I will see you folks on Thursday.