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Welcome back to our open line segment 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: here on Coast to Coast AM. Richard Sarah's sitting in 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: for George Norri. Say hi on Twitter at Richard sarah 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: s Why because I love you r E double t uh. 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: First time caller Bob is in Quincy, Illinois, and he's 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: got a haunted house story. Bob, good morning, welcome, Hi. 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm well yourself, good good good good. Yeah. Back in 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: the late seventies, my wife and I got married, and 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: uh we back then we live in separate departments, and 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: uh we were trying to find a place to live 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: and we moved into a well, she moved in first 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: to kind of get it ready. We found a house 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: behind the house. It was like about about a twenty 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: five ft square I don't know if I used to 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: be a little barn or whatever, but it was a 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: two story built on a slab. The first floor was 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: pretty much open except for a small bathroom, and in 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: the upstairs was basically a bedroom. Um. I moved in 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: and then about I don't know, about a week or 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: so after we lived up. Like I said, we slept upstairs. 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: We had one of those little red light clock radios. 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: At about three o'clock in the morning, we would hear 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: basically it sounded like a basketball bouncing on the floor 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: downstairs going downstairs. Nothing. Um. And then this continued, not 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: every night, but it continued enough that Um. The landlord 35 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: lived in the front house and I asked him when 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: I paid the rent, I said, is any are You 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: haven't any problems with raccoons or anything like that? And 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: he and he said, well, you don't pay attention to 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: what people say about that house. At the time, I 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: knew nothing about the history of the house. Uh. So 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: it got to the point where things would move on 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: the table. We would not see it move. We would 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: hear I would hear sniffing the basketball bouncing noise would continue, 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: and we would at a door open on where there 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: was no wind or anything opened by itself. Uh, it 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: got to be. I was in a club called j 47 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: CS back then. My wife is in a club called JACZ. 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: And it got to be where I would sleep with 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: a knife under my pillow. One night, she came home 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: from j c S and I had the Bible laid 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: out on the bottom step. Um it it got around 52 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Christmas time we and this was around in the fall, 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: around Christmas time. Uh, she was kneeled down taking that 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: taking the ornaments off of the tree. And we had 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: one of those instematics where you take the picture, pull 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: it out, wait sixty seconds to peel it off. The 57 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: old polaroids. I used to hate that smell. Yeah, the 58 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: old polaroid. Anyway, I took, I took her picture, peeled 59 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: it off, and over her left shoulder was a face 60 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: of this guy and it was it was transparent, but 61 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: it was real obvious that it was this guy's face. 62 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: We were obviously freaked out because we had known something 63 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: was going on there, so we started showing this picture 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: around and then people go, oh, you're living in that house. 65 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: Come to find out that a couple of years before 66 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: we moved in, uh, a guy and his wife had 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: lived there and Uh evidently had gone to a concert 68 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: met a guy who had no place to stay, so 69 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: he moved in two to stay with them. He got 70 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: he got the wife pregnant and ended up leave, but 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: the husband and wife were having problems and the wife 72 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: had he The husband talked his wife into going out 73 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: of town. This is according police reports. And on Broad 74 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: invited this guy over and according to the autopsy, hit 75 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: him in the head with a baseball bat and knocked 76 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: him out and used a brush saw one of those 77 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: cross boast saws and cut his head off, his hands 78 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: and his feet in the house where lord yeah, yeah, 79 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: so they found they found this guy's head, his hands, 80 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: and his feet in plastic garbage bags in the cemetery, 81 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: which was back behind this house where we were staying 82 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: at about about a block or so, and they found 83 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: the torso and they at a rest stop, in a bag. 84 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: So we were obviously freaked out about this picture that 85 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: we were showing around, and so at about that time 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: in our town here. Uh, you know, remembered the movie 87 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: to Amityville Horror Ed and Ed and Lorraine Warren who 88 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: were famous investigators. Anyway, they were doing a talk at 89 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: um at the at the university. So we had this 90 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: picture with us and we were going to take it 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: with us, or we did take it with us, and 92 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: uh sat there and this was before video video cameras 93 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: and stuff. They showed photos of lamps floating and then 94 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: they also did have recorded voices stuff and then just 95 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: warned everybody not to record these voices that you could, 96 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: you know, bring them bring the spirits back home with you, right, yeah, yeah, 97 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: So we were scared to death, so we uh, after 98 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: it got over, we tried to get up towards them, 99 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: but they were mobbed with people and stuff. And we 100 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: never got to show this picture to him, and we 101 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: ended up spending the night at my wife's brother's house. 102 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Uh and uh so we ended up moving out of 103 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: there shortly afterwards. And uh, I wish many times I 104 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: hadn't done it, but I burned that picture because I 105 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: was afraid that when we moved, it would follow us. 106 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Ah right now, just Bob, excuse the interruption, But the 107 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: the the image the ghostly image on that photograph. Were 108 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: you able to compare that with were there any pictures 109 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: of the deceased that you had him? Yeah, it was, 110 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: and I did. I did not know that. And then 111 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: so that happened back then, and I had told the 112 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: story countless times. And fast forward to Oh, I guess 113 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: it's been about six years ago. I blogged one of 114 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: the reporters who was a court reporter back then, had 115 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: mentioned it and when he was still a reporter at 116 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: our local newspaper and had mentioned it in one of 117 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: his columns. So I pretty much laid out all that 118 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: stuff that about the sniffing and the moving of the 119 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: stuff and all that in my letter to him, and um, 120 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: he called me back about out Oh, I don't know, 121 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later and said, Bob, you're not 122 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: gonna believe who called me, And it was the wife 123 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: who had got subsequently got divorced from the guy who 124 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: God found not guilty for killing this guy. Because this 125 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: was before d n A, it was so so he 126 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: was found innocent. M So. Um, so he's still around, Yeah, 127 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: he's still out west and she's but she what happened 128 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: was she saw the blogs. She was on the computer 129 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: with her grandson who was the illegitimate son son, and 130 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: she saw it freaked her out because of you know, 131 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: because he was had been romantically involved with this guy, 132 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: and she wanted to talk to me. And I did 133 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: talk to her on the phone and actually come to 134 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: ended up getting you know, because I was curious about it. 135 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: I got all the research and the guy's photo was 136 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: the picture the guy in the picture and the was 137 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: around his face. This guy had like an afro and 138 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: a big beard. And I can still, you know, like 139 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: I said, I wish I had kept that photo. I 140 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: still get an email like once a year from a company, 141 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like a ghost ghost hunter's company 142 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: to try to tell my story and that. But that's remarkable, Bob, 143 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: Is that how still there? No? Actually, we went right well, 144 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: I went back there after this happened with the reporter. 145 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: We went over there and they had been torn down 146 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: and they put a peace garden there, and the current 147 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: owners put a peace garden there because they felt that 148 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: it was unsettling. Actually the name of the his article 149 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: was Unsettled Spirit. And I found out more about it 150 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: because uh, I realized I learned that the guy who 151 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: was killed was a draftsman. He was going to school 152 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: to be a draftsman. And when he would come home, 153 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: he would move all the stuff on the table off 154 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: to the edge where we would see where the stuff 155 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: would My wife and I would be. We both worked 156 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: and we just she was and she isn't the free 157 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: and always kept the centerpiece in the middle and be 158 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: moved off to the side. This guy, he evidently did that. 159 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: And the sniffing. One night when I was upstairs sniffing, 160 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: we heard the sniffing. But one night I thought my 161 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: wife was crying. I was upstairs reading and I heard. 162 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: I thought she was crying, and she was downstairs taking 163 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: a bath in the bathtub. And come to find out 164 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: that this guy that got murdered was due to have 165 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: sinus surgery like a week after he was got he 166 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: was final murder. Remarkable, Bob, that is, I tell you, 167 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: the hackles on the back of my neck are standing up. Bob. 168 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that. Okay, sure, thanks, have 169 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: a good evening. Wow. Listen to more Coast to Coast 170 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: AM every weeknight at one a m. Eastern and go 171 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast am dot com. Are there