WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Have Enough Tackles? 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:06.760 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:18.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.840 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:27.000 Absolutely ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:32.360 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:37.479 with Nick Eatman, though David Hellman and bar Garcia and 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:42.120 Derek Eagleton. It is Thursy, October tenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:45.440 episode number sixty one. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.919 We're live from s WBC Morges Studios at the Star. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.879 Got my crew with me. We're gonna talk from Cowboys football. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.000 We can get you guys ready for this Cowboys versus 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.400 Jets game coming up on Sunday. That's at three thirty 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.480 Central time. So I guess let's first jump been and 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:04.080 get started talking about a couple of injuries. Three guys 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:08.399 miss practice yesterday. Talk to me about Layton vandresh Dave. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.240 You mentioned yesterday he wasn't at practice. We've learned more 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.240 about why he wasn't at practice us a little bit 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.440 about what's going on there. He's sick. He came in 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.480 yesterday and was feeling under the weather, and they were like, 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.959 let's hold you out. And Garrett said, this morning he 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.039 feels better, but they're still holding them out. He came 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.720 out to practice. He's not padded up, but he's out there. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.479 It looks like he's rehabbing with Britt Brown and then 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.520 training the athletic training staff. Does he also have an 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.080 injury or is it just the illness that's well said 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.080 an illness? No, no, and but I think you know, 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:41.920 it's more like if you're not going to practice, at 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.039 least get out there and get your wind up. Yeah. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.880 I you know, people brought this up like it looked 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.200 at times like he was hobbled in a couple of 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:54.440 these the Saints and Packers games. Specifically, he's not on 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:58.280 the injury report with a physical ailment. Haven't heard anything 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.880 about it. Um, so it's not it's not related to that, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.840 you know, just Nixon knocks that happened during a football game. Yeah, 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:07.920 I would expect he's gonna play in this game. It's 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.800 just you know, illnesses. It's I said this on the 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.840 fan earlier today, is like when you have a team 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.680 of highly trained professionals helping you get over the flu 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.240 or a cold or whatever. It seems like athletes kick 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.720 it a lot quicker than the rest of us do. So, Yeah, 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.000 talk to me about Lyle Collins and Tyron Smith. Well, 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:29.080 I think that Tyron Smith. They still saying that he is, 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.600 uh it was promising to play, but he hasn't practiced yet. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:36.200 They're gonna try to get him out there Friday tomorrow 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:37.920 to see if he can do something. Can I do 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.959 my best Nick impression real quick? He's gonna play. He's 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.800 gonna play. I don't think you don't think he's gonna play. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.639 I wouldn't say it like that. That does That's I'm 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.880 just saying that's what you say. It's you typically say 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.280 it about the other teams. Yes, you're like, he's gonna play, 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:57.720 he's Odell Beckham, he's Tyrant Smith. Though he's Tyron Smith, 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.240 he's a mutant. But I don't do that as it's 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.720 like I didn't do that. Boy Davante Adams like him. Yeah, 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.240 you don't think he was gonna play? Yeah, but but 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.160 I think that if I had to guess, I would 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.200 say Tyre and plays Lyau doesn't. I agree with that, 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.520 But it is the Jets, and I hope that doesn't 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:20.800 factor into anything but okay, but see when you say 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.240 it's the Jets, when you're arguing whether or not you 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.680 sit like you're running back. You know, like if Zeke 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.560 had had knocked up ankle right now, you know, an 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.400 ankle bruise, maybe you have that conversation because you have backups. 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.280 But like, I don't want to send Dak out there 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.640 against any NFL team without either of his tackles. That's 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:42.160 a terrible idea. If the Cowboys were five and oh, 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.200 then yeah, you can delimit things with well, it's the 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.680 Jets like they're three and two right now. They need 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.880 every game and and so for me, I don't I would. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.040 I would look at it as he's able to play 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:55.960 or is he not able to play? If he's not 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:57.840 able to play us one thing. If he's able to play, 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.600 then put him out there. I don't. I don't hold 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.800 back just because of the opponent, in my opinion, not 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.920 where they are right now, if it was. If it was, 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.280 I think they do that. I mean, and I don't 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.800 think it's as easy as saying black white, like he 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.040 is able to play or he's not. Yeah, he's gonna play. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.680 He's probably gonna be limping around and if after the 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.960 Saints game, Danny, I'll let you answer this. At the 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.320 Saints game, you saw that injury, you were like, he's 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.200 gonna miss least one game, maybe two, And you're looking 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.800 at it and you're like, well, Packers, you don't want 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.560 to miss that one. But yeah, it's the Jets. You 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.479 could probably miss that one getting ready for the Eagles. Yeah, 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:31.960 but I don't think the Cowboys are in your position 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.000 where they could use that as an excuse, Like Derek 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.000 was saying like this that the Cowboys need to get 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.919 back to winning games. You don't want to start getting 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.680 on this losing streak and lose to the Jets, who 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.560 haven't won a game yet. You don't want to be 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.200 that team and then you don't have momentum going forward, 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.800 and then you start losing confidence. I agree. I don't 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:50.800 think they're in a position where you can say, but 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.880 there are the Jets. If he needs another week, that's fine, 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.600 and they're not near their bye week. Can they win 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.640 without them? I see, But that's that's what it goes back, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.480 So you see it's I think it's I think it's different. 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.240 Like if you told me Layton Vanderesh wasn't feeling great, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.559 But on Saturday, I'd be like, yeah, it's the Jets 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.480 sid him. You got Shawn Lee, you got Joe Thomas. 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:09.800 You can get through this game without Layton Vanderesha. Is 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:11.240 that anything to do with how he played the last 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.160 game a little bit? Yeah? I mean, like he's not 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.720 playing that amazing. You know, you're missing a whole lot 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:21.600 Smith though. Tyron Smith is just a different story, not 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.640 only because of how good he is at his position 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.000 and what he does for like everything, but also again, 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.720 I don't want my quarterback to get murder, and so 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:31.920 if he's healthy enough to play, then I would play him. 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.480 That's even in preseason games though, right, literally, you don't 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.520 want to throw my quarterback out in the preseason in game, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:42.200 in a game that legitimately didn't matter. Last year, preseason game, 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.960 they sat Dak because Tyron couldn't go, and I mean 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.960 Zach couldn't go either, and blah blah blah. You know, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.320 I think the hardest hit that Dak has taken since 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.440 I remember any of these games since he's been here, 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.240 I think was against the Saints a couple of weeks ago. 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.400 He threw a pass. Remember that he threw that. He 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.120 threw a pass kind to the right flat. Maybe in 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.520 the first half he got smashed, like the one to 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.680 w Yeah on the on the right side. Life he 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.760 hit Witten on the sideline. Was early in the game. Yeah, 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.840 I don't remember. I think Cam Jordan, I think it 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.520 was a combination. He got destroyed. I do remember what 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:15.480 you're talking about. I mean, it happens. He takes hits, 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.960 and but like we've said a couple of weeks ago, 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.200 when when Cam was out there, I think he was 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.760 rushing the ball and forcing it. I'm not saying that 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.840 nobody can beat like the Jests can't win the game. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.040 Not saying that, but I'm saying if he's not healthy 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.480 and they're rushing him back, I don't know if you're 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.320 rush him back for anyone, especially in a game like this, 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.080 word they should be able to win. They should be 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:36.600 able to win. I think we're kind of saying the 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.560 same thing because I agree with you from the standpoint 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.360 that I don't think you necessarily like rushing guys back. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.320 That's a that's a dicey thing. Rushing guys back if 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.679 they can play and they can play reliably and they're 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.000 not going to cause increased damage to themselves. Then I'm 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.320 all in. But I know in the NFL, and I 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.240 know that look that you have David the NFL, like, yeah, 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.120 they're probably guys to get back out there before their 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.880 bodies are really ready to be back out there. Always um. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:02.800 But but I also don't think that you should make 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.640 that decision based upon the opponent. Me personally, I think not. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.640 Not when you're three and two team. If you're five 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.200 an old team, yeah, I think you have some leeway 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.120 to be able to say, you know, let's take a 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.280 little chance here. We think we feel pretty good that 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.200 we can win without him, so let's go ahead and 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.560 take that chance. At three and two, you need every game, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.000 which means, in my opinion, you need all hands on deck, 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.320 every player that is capable of playing, uh and and 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.239 and not sitting anyone that that that's you know, it's 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.160 really don't have to. This is the difference between talk 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:35.280 radio and like reality for what they say, because they 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:36.840 don't even look at any of that stuff, or at 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.880 least they don't say it publicly. Right, They're just gonna 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.480 be like, well, if he's ready to play, he will play. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.520 If he's not ready to play. He won't play simple 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.920 as that doesn't matter for playing the AFC Pro Bowl team. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:47.880 Or we're playing the Jets and the gray happens in 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.160 the room and then we're not Yeah, the door and 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.239 they're like, can can we beat these guys behind closed doors? 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.320 They absolutely say stuff that how good is he gonna be? Like? 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.240 Can he run? Who's cam gonna have to face? Okay, 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.920 all right, Jordan Jenkins, all right, cool? Yeah, if it 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.080 was yeah, I can't even if it was a much 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:10.040 more badass pass rusher. They're like tire and tyrant. Any 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.200 chance you turn, maybe just get out there a little bit, 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.280 put some more tape on that bad boy. Yeah, all right, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.120 let's take our first break. 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Back to 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.520 the break It is the second segment of Break Life 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.120 Nest WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star and I just 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.400 found out it's Fair day, so we need to finish 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.000 this show really really quickly because for those of you 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.160 who don't live in Texas, the Texas State Fair, when 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.640 I tell you the food is just absolutely the best 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.439 or what they do here at the Star is they 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.720 started now doing a fair day here where we do 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.160 those kinds of foods, like let's go to great it's 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.480 it's we work in the best place we do. It's 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.600 awesome for free because I mean the fair is great, 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.440 but it's not cheap. So the fact that we can 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.880 get the same food up here for free. Thanks, I'll 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.360 have his stomach cake by about be so great. But 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.000 it's gonna be worth It's gonna be so worth it. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.240 All right, let's jump Backy and Dave. Are you ready 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.520 to give us your New York Jet defense scouting report? Yes? 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:18.960 I can do that. Um, the New York Jets, it's 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:23.080 honestly like they have I don't want to say an 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.720 impressive amount of talent, but they have more talent than 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.000 I think they do an offense just because they've invested 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.719 resources there. Um, they're still playing. They're playing a three 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.560 four under Greg Williams. M. Leonard Williams is still there. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.760 Arguably the top talent in the draft back in I 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.800 want to say twenty fifteen. He's a three to four 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:49.559 in pass rusher, running stopper kind of guy. Um. Obviously 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.560 the name the name to know if you know any 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.240 name is Jim Jamal Adams. He's there, you know, kind 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.400 of their their leader, their heartbeat, the top five pick. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.959 Actually Hebron's own Dallas fan, the Hebrew and Hammer right 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:06.160 up the road here in the Carrollton area. Jamal Adams. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:10.040 They gave a bunch of money to Trumaine Johnson at cornerback. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.160 They gave a bunch of money to C. J. Mosley. 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.720 He's not going to play in this game. Good player though, 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.480 Oh my gosh, he's great, Like that makes a world 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.080 of beaver backers. That makes a world of difference. Came 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.160 up from Baltimore. If he was playing in this game, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.760 I would be a decent bit more nervous about it. 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:33.280 But the production hasn't. Really it's not let me let 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.120 me change that. They're actually they're pretty good for what 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:41.840 they're dealing with. Like their thirteenth in total defense twenty 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.120 first and pass yards per game not great, top ten 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.560 against the run eighty eight yards per game twenty five, 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.880 twenty fifth in points per game at twenty five points 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.080 per game, which to me, like it kind of reminds 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.760 me the twenty fifteen Cowboys. Honestly, because their defense is 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.720 talented enough to keep up with some of these teams 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.520 and they just wear down because their offense doesn't give 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.200 him a ton of help. I will say the Patriots 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.240 kind of jumped out on him. Like the Patriots I 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.920 think scored on their first two possessions, So like they're 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.520 not this impenetrable unit, but they're good enough to hang 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:16.080 with you. Like they're not just atrocious. I don't think 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.800 they don't get sacks, though they do. That's the thing is, 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.600 like they don't Going back to the conversation about the tackles, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.560 they don't really have a pass rusher, not one that 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.720 just strikes fear into your heart. Jordan Jenkins is a 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.200 name that I think you should know. Third round pick 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.119 out of Georgia. He's been there for a few years. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.280 He hasn't been amazing, but he will probably be going 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.080 against the right tackle, which will probably be Cam Fleming 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.520 or brand No. When I would say, well, I would 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.400 say Cam Fleming or Lyle Collins. I don't think Lyle 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.160 is going to play. But Jason Garrett said today if 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.760 Tyrant plays, then Cam would probably move to right tackle. 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.800 He's their swing tackles, so they expect him to be 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.319 able to do both. So I don't think it'll be 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.760 Brandon Knight because I think Tyron will play. If Tyron 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.560 doesn't play, then it would be either way. You're talking 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.840 about probably a favorable or at least a compromised matchup 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:13.680 for Jordan Jenkins. That's something to watch. Nathan Shepherd another 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.800 good player. He's on a six game suspension, so he's 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:22.080 not there, but they're leading Their leading guy right now 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.720 is a guy by the name of Neville Hewitt with 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.280 two sacks. They don't get after the quarterback that well, 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.040 So I feel like that's a break for what is 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:34.760 a gimpy offensive line back has two sacks? He does, yeah, 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.680 which I'm sure. What's the Cowboys leading three? Oh yeah, Quinnon. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:40.520 So I mean this early in the season, I get that, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.160 but you just don't see him, in my opinion, generate 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:47.120 a ton of pressure. Another thing to watch. Brian actually 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.920 wrote about this today. But Steve McClendon. They got him 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.320 this year. He's new. He's their nose tackle. He's gonna 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.240 play head up on Travis Frederick. He's pretty good. I've 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.160 never heard of him before I started watching him and 0:14:58.240 --> 0:14:59.840 kind of reading up on the Jets. But he's a 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.840 he's a good player. Typical nose tackle like hard to move, 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.960 trash can, full of dirt, but he gets a surprising 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.360 amount of penetration since that's not necessarily what nose tackles do. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.560 I think that'll be a fun matchup for Travis Frederick, 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.680 see who gets the better of that. But they I 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.280 think it helps that C. J. Mosley isn't gonna play, 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.320 but like they could gunk this up for Zeke and 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.160 at least you know it's not just going to be 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.400 a breeze. I don't think I'll throw this. I was 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.680 looking at there at the running game, and I saw 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.440 what you just mentioned about them having the seventh best 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.360 rush defense in the NFL. But if you go and 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.520 look at the teams as they've played, haven't really to 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.920 play teams that you would consider to be power running teams, 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.480 teams that are committed to the run. They have Buffalo 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.360 and Week one, Devin Singletary rushed for seventy yards. He 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:47.800 was at a leading rusher, but he did it only 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.400 on four carry, so he had a big run. Broke one. Yeah, 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.680 you had a Chubb. Against Cleveland, he had eighteen carres 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.520 for sixty two yards or three point four average Rex 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:02.520 Burkhart with New England, Chubb has been dynamic. No, no, no, 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.200 I get that. I'm not saying he wasn't. What I'm 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.560 saying is they didn't really run a ton and I 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.520 don't think you would consider them to be a team 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.880 that's committed to the run, like you look at Dallas. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.200 Dallas as a team that's committed to the run. There 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.360 are a few teams around the NFL that are committed 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.160 to the run like that and have that kind of 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.480 dynamic runner, and I don't know if they've played in 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.440 them again, same thing for for Rex in New England, 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.040 same thing for Jordan Howard in Philadelphia. These are all 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.200 guys that are kind of running back by committee. They 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.000 run as necessary. They aren't really teams that are that 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.200 you would consider to be running teams. All that being said, 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.120 though the averages are pretty good. You look at Philadelphia, 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.120 they average four point eight to carry New England four 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.920 point three. Obviously Philadelphia got them pretty good and got 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.960 and like I, you know, to my amateur, I at 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.720 least like I don't know how well disciplined they are, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.680 Like they seem like they get out of position a lot. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.400 Trumaine Johnson, we know him from the Rams. He's the 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.240 guy that started that. He was one of the instigators 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.400 of that brawl at training camp a few years ago. 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.640 He feisty, he's aggressive, but like undisciplined. I feel like 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.320 you could use that against him. Marcus May. Their other 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.760 safety was the guy if you remember the Jets game 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.120 where O'Dell went like ninety three yards, everybody was making 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:14.840 fun of him because he sort of like ran in 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.280 a circle, like he got the lead blocker. He got 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.199 so turned around by O'Dell that he basically ran in 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.320 a circle. He looked like the pace car for Yeah, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.600 it was just kind of come on this way to 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:27.960 the end zone and he like, I'm not going to 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.720 try to tackle you. He's like, this is this is 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.840 the path coming with you. I don't I don't think 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.920 they're well disciplined. I think play action screens and things 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.280 of that natures doing that. No, well, I don't want 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.359 to gush too much about Jamal Adams, but like you 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.239 know where he went to school. I just he's so 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.480 much fun to watch Hebren, You're right, and also Louisiana 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:53.720 State El Presidente President Mall. He's so much fun to watch, 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.040 Like I know, like you want the Cowboys to win. 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:57.760 I get that, but like just keep an eye on 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.160 him because he's just the most fun Swiss arm knife. Like, yeah, 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.080 he's a safety, but he's like the field general type 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.800 of guy who's lining people up. His instincts are incredible. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.399 I actually the Jets put out a video with Adam Gase. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.960 I think it was the Cleveland game, but like Adams 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.160 is down on the line, like pointing out the splits. 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.800 He's like, this is what they're gonna do, and this 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:19.719 is what I want y'all to do. And he just 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.080 nice through the line and tackles Chubb like behind the line, 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.800 and Gas was like narrating it. He was like, he 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.439 drives me crazy as an offensive play caller because when 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.280 you see a safety doing that, like you failed because 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:36.280 he diagnosed the whole thing before the ball was even snapped. 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.960 And like he's just that smart. Like he drives me 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:40.879 crazy in practice. That's what Gay said. He's like, he 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.800 drives me crazy in practice because he does this three 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:47.080 or four times a day. I would guess he's going 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.080 to live in the box and try to make life 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.159 difficult on seek. So we know Jabal Adams is a 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.440 guy that can change the game. Is there any other 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.800 player on this defense that you would consider to be 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.280 a dangerous player, Like if we come in here Monday morning, 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.360 win or loss, we're saying, you know, that guy made 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.719 it tough on the Dallas Cowboys to do what they 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.160 wanted to do. I think it would be Adams because 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.879 mostly is with hamstring. Yeah, well we know, we know 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:17.600 Adam Adams. Is there anybody, I don't think there's one 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.960 that I would say. I think it is a major threat. 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:25.040 Leonard Williams is probably better than he gets talked about. Four. 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.320 But that's the position that he plays, you know, like 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:32.560 it's a kind of a thankless position. Um. But again, 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.080 like you're talking about it, like if they gunk up 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.480 the run game, I think that could be why and 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.560 and he could put some pressure again if you're you're 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.320 talking about a compromised offensive line, and McLendon too for 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.920 that matter. I mean, if you know Frederick will see 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.719 how he handles that, because like you don't see the center, 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.239 I mean you don't see guys have one on one 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.000 matchups that often like centers are typically available to help 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.200 out with guys to either side of them. And I 0:19:58.200 --> 0:19:59.880 don't think that's gonna be the case this week. So 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.920 I mean, that's that's the point in the game where 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:04.879 you know, and we all know this, if if they 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.280 don't run the ball, then you you're putting everything on 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.639 Dac and Dak at times can can do well. But 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.000 if he's having depressed too much, like we saw last week, 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.240 he could struggle. And when you look at the offensive line, 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.159 Tyrant's banged up, he may not play. Lyle's banged up 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.760 even more, he might not play as well. To Zack 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.920 Martin has been dealing with back injury. Frederick. I think 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.720 Frederick is back to one hundred percent, but we'll see 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.760 against a match up like this, and Connor Williams I 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.160 think is the weakest part of the line when they're 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.760 all healthy. He's had his moment. So when you look 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.600 at the jet, you got McClendon, who you said is 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.000 a you know, a good player in there. You got 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.160 a first round pick, in top six pick I think 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:44.160 in Leonard, and you got a top pick in Quinnin Williams, right, 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.480 he's even mentioned Quin Williams. He's well, he's been hurt. 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:52.320 He's limited, first round pick, top three pick, monster, yea monster. 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.320 And then you know, and then you got something to watch. 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:56.440 He's been on the injury report, not one hundred percent 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.640 sure if he's going to play. And then I don't 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:02.480 know if that Anderson is it Henry Harry Anderson. Henry Anderson, 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.080 the guy that had a shoulder. He's been a good 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:06.600 player for them. He pull up the injury. He had 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.879 eight sacks for them last year. So and he's a 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:10.720 guy that that plays. They have a lot of games, 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.240 an interior guy. Yeah, I think he's a tackle. I 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.919 won't be surprised if running the ball is a challenge 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:17.919 for them in this game. It's like everything we just 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:21.199 set about their front and then if there's a safety 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.280 who can really limit what you do in the run game, 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.280 Jamal Adams is one of them. Um. But this is 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.600 huge for Gallup and Cooper because they can beat anybody 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.560 off the line, and that's seen that I didn't have 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:34.159 to just stretch it that way. And then I like 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:37.960 that matchup. Like May Marcus May, the other safety. He 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.080 was a second round pick. He hasn't really lived up 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:43.760 to the hype of where he was drafted. And I 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.440 think Trummay Johnson's a pretty overrated player. I think there 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.639 was like a There was a report that came out that, like, 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.360 the Jets are concerned that he doesn't really care about football. 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:52.960 This was like a month ago or something like that, 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.000 which never something you want to hear about a guy 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:59.080 that you gave a boatload of money to um. But yeah, 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.680 it's I mean, I like that matchup for the receivers, 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.879 which makes me feel better about the fact that it 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:06.880 might be a tough day for Zeke. It's a matter 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:10.120 of not cheating yourself in the foot, which has been 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.080 a problem for them, you know, because you're right and 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.520 you say that, and that sounds very cliche, but it's not. 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:18.640 You get a holding penalty. It's first and twenty Now. Now, 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:20.720 running the ball a couple of times with Zeke is 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.160 not favorable because even if he has four yards to carry, 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.600 you're still looking at third and twelve, so you know, 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.320 you can't get behind the chains that way. I think 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.399 that they're better equipped than they were last year to 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:32.800 make that. I mean, had their first and twenty five 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.320 and they got just throw a deep deep de Zeke here, 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.280 you know, deep de Zeke right in front of Garrett 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.600 kind of we thought that was gonna get him off 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.280 the hook, but it didn't. We still talked about it. 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:45.920 People started saying ball don't lie when that happened, and 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:50.280 it made me laugh like Rashid Wallets. You know it's funny. 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You're gonna be excited about what you 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.320 see you're gonna Yeah, they're like, oh, they kick that 0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:57.680 team in the greens, ass, let's do it again. Even 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.280 though I don't think they're wearing green, I think the 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.560 Jets wearing white. I believe Cowboys will be in blue 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.240 again this way, and a lot of blue this year, 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.200 eight games blue. I don't know if I've ever seen 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.600 the cow Cowboys and Jets. I actually think it's white 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.560 and blue like that. Maybe I think it's six games 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.159 in blue and two games in color rush. Oh okay, 0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.680 I think yeah, sorry, did one color rush? Right? Yeah? 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:21.480 So Thanksgiving it will be the other US. So I 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:25.399 think it's actually the Vikings. Really yeah, I think I 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:29.439 don't look cool. Well, I don't know a lot of 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.639 you know what's it's refreshing to me that you know, 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:38.040 we'll see three different uniforms with regularity instead of fourteen 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.760 games in the whites. I kind of wish you'd have 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.000 more like I listen too, would just go the route 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.119 of like college and give me a lot of different 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.719 variety of Oregon. Not that much variety. I'm gonna sound 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.879 I'm gonna pound the drum for a royal blue Cowboys 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:55.280 uniform until I get it. It would be look weird 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:57.639 if it matched the other colors, right, unifor wouldn't that 0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:02.840 be crazy? Yet? That pretty pretty cool? All right, Let's 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.320 get to us some calls, you guys, calls five, five, two, 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:06.920 two nine seven. You can also end us on Twitter. 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.199 You can hit me at Derek Eagleton. I will take 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.080 your questions that way. We have a call first from 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:15.399 Pierre in Shreveport. Pierre, what up? Three one eight? Hey man? 0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.440 What's going on? You know? I'm okay, sir, I have 0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:22.560 a question about the coaching. Okay, okay, all we ever, 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:24.960 everyone get us a coach. It's gonna go for blood. 0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:28.560 I mean the way that Garrett has told him our game, 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.399 he's always happy about everything, and I'm just i just 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.480 want to coach. It has a little bit more fire 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.639 on him and that a hold of player accountable on 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.760 television and not you know, second for him at the 0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.240 press conference. Is this a recorded call? Like is this live? 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.840 Or did you call last week? Because I mean I 0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.560 did not call. I mean, I'm just saying, of all 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.800 the times to make that call, I wouldn't think it 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:57.080 would be this week. Well, sir, I mean, I'm I'm 0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.520 just I'm a cowboy fan and I've been here to 0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.520 do and the bad. Do you watch the Packer game? Yes, sir, 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.159 I watched the whole game. It was it was a 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.800 heart wrenching. Yeah. I mean, I hear what you're saying, 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.040 and I know one game doesn't change everything and all that, 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.000 but like, it's just funny that that that Garrett doesn't 0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:17.000 have the fire stuff would come out this week when 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.760 he got a fifteen yard penalty for losing its basically 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.440 losing a school and doing something. Now, I know that's 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.000 not every game, but I'm just it just seems am 0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.160 not the only one that seems like I think people 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.080 make a joke too. He's such a big clapper and 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.840 everyone likes We've covered that. Yeah, but that's doesn't mean 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.800 he doesn't have passion and everything. As I've made this 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:41.800 analogy before, like as somebody who doesn't outwardly emote very often. 0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.640 It drives me crazy that people think that that means 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.680 you don't care. Like, it's just people react to things 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:50.240 different ways. And you know, I mean, first of all, yeah, Garrett, 0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.239 it's it was really funny, like if a player had 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.640 done that and cost the team fifteen yards, everyone would 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.480 have lost their mind and hated him forever. But Garrett 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.239 emotes so rarely. Everyone was thrilled to see him get mad. 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:06.680 Everyone a lot of here Freeport. Well, yeah, it's weird 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.000 timing that this week of all weeks, like after he 0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:10.680 flipped out for the first time in his life, he 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.880 wants to see more. I don't I never understood that, 0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.840 which I have the privilege of seeing Jason Garrett every day, 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:20.800 and I mean you can go watch All or Nothing 0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:22.400 and see what he's like behind the scenes, like that 0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.360 was such a great look, Like he isn't like that 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.480 when he's actually coaching the team. He's just an even 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.720 keel guy on game day. It's never bothered me. No, 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.560 I mean, I respect the hell out of Chris Richard, 0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.000 but it doesn't seem like fans are into his passionate 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.360 routine right now because the defense is still struggling. And 0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.240 by the way, he called the whole defense up this 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:43.760 last game and the game before and gave him a 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:45.960 fiery speech, and guess what, they went back out there 0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.800 and they still give up more points. I mean, there 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.320 is no right, no exact way that you have to coach. 0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.040 Like coaching is, you have to be true to who 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.080 you are, because if you're not that's the other part. 0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.080 If you're not true to who you are, your players 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:00.680 are gonna look at you and role their eyes. Like, 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:02.960 whoever Garrett is, he has to be true to that 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.840 with his players. Whoever Rochard is, he has to be 0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.920 true to that to players. And guess what. There have 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.320 been coaches in this league that have been very successful 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.240 that are mile mannered. There have been some coaches that 0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:16.320 have sucked, that have been like fiery and always scowling 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.160 and going off on the play it. There is no 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.760 one way that's going to lead to successful a coach. Okay, 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.840 the accountability is the part that's important. I think he 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.080 does all these players accountable. Tom Landry was not, like 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.440 I was not even alive when he coached the Cowboys. 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.520 But wasn't he like the most mild mannered He wore 0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.880 a suit on the sunny Dungee Tony Dungee because notorious 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.720 for standing out and not really losing it, certainly not 0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.400 losing it. People are dismissed that part. Let's listen, miss 0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.080 but let's let now. We got a lot of people 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:46.600 that are listening. They're like, all right, well, here's the 0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:50.040 real problem, whether it's fiery or not, how about what 0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.040 is going on with this team and from what you 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.880 can blame the coaching staff is is that for whatever 0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.560 the reason, they're not ready to play in the first quarter. 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.640 They got by with it with the Dolphins, the Giants, 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.040 the Redskins. They did not get by with it with 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.320 the Saints, and sure it's hell didn't with the Green Bay. 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:09.120 So that is the problem right now. Is whether or 0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:12.080 not he needs to be throwing flags right before pregame, 0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:15.360 I don't know, but whatever it is, like, that's the issue. 0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.160 I don't know if it's if it's how mad you 0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.120 get on the sideline, but if we want to you know, 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.040 put points and fingers to the coach and staff, is 0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.240 that these guys are not ready to play football for 0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:27.480 some reason and it's cost them the last two weeks. 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.520 I've actually, I've gone back and forth with that. I 0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.960 actually I asked Barry Church about it on cover for 0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.520 this week, where I was like, you know, every morning, 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.680 every morning, and that you want to watch, thank you. 0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.080 It's I don't know exactly how to feel about that 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.440 because it's like, well, they're not ready to play. That's 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:45.719 on the coach and I agree with that to a degree. 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.440 But then Dak throws a pass to a wide open 0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.560 to Marii Cooper and it bounces off his hands and 0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.480 it's an interception. Like is that the coach's fault? Like 0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.240 because they zipped up and down the field throughout the 0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.120 first half, and like, what is Jason Garrett supposed to 0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.160 do about the fact that the player didn't catch the 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.840 ball or the quarterback didn't see the safeties sitting on 0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.240 the throw. The coaches can only do so much about execution, 0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.680 which and I'm not trying to absolve Jason Garrett, but 0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:12.640 I really I am conflicted with that because I'm like, well, 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:14.560 the team wasn't ready to play. They fell into a 0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.880 seventeen nothing hole. That's on coaching. But then you're like, well, 0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.000 I can pick out about half a dozen reasons where 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.840 the players just didn't execute something that would have worked otherwise. 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.000 And I think it's a little bit of both. I mean, 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.080 there's plenty of blame to go around. When you are 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.040 down thirty one to three, there's no doubt, and that 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.480 always becomes the argument. Even in situations where the players 0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.080 should have executed. Then you say, well, why aren't the 0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.120 players executing. It still is the coach's responsibility. Well not 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:39.960 even just that, but just it still is the coach's 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:43.360 responsibility to get his team in a position where they 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.160 can execute right, and yet they have to be accountable 0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.560 for executing and doing that. But at the end of 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.720 the day, it still always goes back to the head coach. 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.680 It begins and end with the head coach. So yeah, 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:56.880 I think those are all fair criticisms. I just get 0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:58.960 a little tired when people start going to the stuff 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:02.040 that's off around that. That's not the stuff that's important. 0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:04.160 It's it's the team and how they're performing and whether 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:05.840 the tea the coach is getting them ready to perform 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.120 their best. I guess you know, that's a fair point 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.360 because last week's probably not good to say that about 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.560 the coaching staff or whatever. Aaron Rodgers goes out there 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:16.280 was it. I don't know if it was a three 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.800 and out, but they punted quick, cowboys got the ball 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.080 and it was three and now they got the ball, 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.200 went down three or four plays. Cooper catches that ball. 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:25.880 He's I don't know if he scores, but it's probably 0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.000 first in goal from the inside. That's what I'm saying. 0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.760 Is like, yeah, they actually yeah, and they it's not 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.240 like they went three and out three times in a 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.600 rotist which actually happened in the playoff game against the Packers. 0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:38.960 Like they couldn't do anything at the start of that game. 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.560 If you want to blame that on coaching, I'm listening. 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:45.200 But like they literally they didn't play the right quarterback. 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:52.680 Oh good god, I'm not kidding. But they moved the ball. 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:54.800 They moved the ball at will at the start of 0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.640 this game, and to Danny's point, could not get out 0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.600 of their own way. I don't know how much of 0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.520 that lex on the coach, but he's still the coach, 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.160 and if you want to criticize him, he's handsomely paid 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:10.239 to put up with that. Absolutely, thanks for the call, 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.719 Pierre Reports. Not trying to kill you too much. I 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:14.960 just I disagree with you, bro. All right, let's get 0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:19.959 a call. Actually, this a tweet from Brian stim He says, 0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.800 does Zeke look slower since his rookie year? And he 0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:24.520 makes references in fact, you don't see as many of 0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.480 those sixty yard bursts. You hadn't have those those big 0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.759 long runs. What do you guys think about him? And 0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:31.359 kind of where he is at this point his career. 0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.719 I haven't seen that. It's true, we haven't seen that 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:40.640 run um slower M. Maybe you know what he might be. 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.200 It's okay to say that he might be. He's been 0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.479 hit a lot since his rookie year. Um, you find 0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.800 a lot of rookies, like a lot of running backs 0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.440 that way when you when you go and you look 0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.480 at them the rookie year and you come back and go, 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.600 that's not the way they are anymore. I mean, it 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:58.520 just kind of happens. Not an excuse, but uh, you 0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:00.560 don't have to be that guy that that makes all 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.719 those long runs. I mean, that's not exactly why they 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.000 pay him, but it would be nice to break one 0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.920 every now and again. And how many I'm not I 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:11.320 don't necessarily disagree. I know this, which I hope the 0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.000 Zeke is fat narrative is long dead. I see the 0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.279 guy in the locker room every day. He's not fat bad, 0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:21.480 He's in fantastic shape. So I'm just I'm legitimately trying 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.880 to remember. I know, Week five, Cincinnati, twenty sixteen, he 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.560 took it right up the gut, split the safety's sixty 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:32.279 yard touchdown. How many other genuine house calls did he 0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.200 make as a rookie. He wants to say Detroit or 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.960 Tampa those games had a long one against Tampa. Yes, 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.719 I think that's true. And he had the eighty nine 0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:45.120 yards screen against the Steelers. I don't ever think of 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.680 that as just blazing speed. He was kind of bothered 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:51.080 and with the next year with the screen pass for 0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.000 different because you're following blocks and yeah, but there still 0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.680 is an element of speed run since his rookie year. 0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.440 I mean, I don't know off the top of my 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.759 head neither why. I mean I would. He definitely did 0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.319 it a few times as a rookie. He hasn't done 0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:10.360 it as much since. Has he lost a step? Is 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.359 that about an increased attention like tames come into games 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.120 now saying we're not going to let him do that. 0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:17.320 I bet the longest run was the one he hurdled 0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:20.239 the guy in Philly, which would have been probably a 0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:25.399 thirty five yard touchdown. No, No, I would would have been. Yeah, yeah, 0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:27.839 maybe that's not as long as run. I will figure 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:32.239 it out. Yeah, I don't necessarily think it's wrong, but 0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.440 I all, I mean, he's still plenty father reason why 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.839 he's he's he's leading the league in explosive runs, which 0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:43.080 coaches twenty plus, no twelve. That's the thing, is a 0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.920 coach's idea. You know, fans want to see forty and 0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.000 fifty yard runs and that's fun. But to a coach, 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.439 it's twelve plus and it passes sixteen plus. And he's 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:57.640 got a lot of those multiple sea this year or 0:36:57.680 --> 0:36:59.880 since he's known just this season. I think he's got 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.000 I haven't looked since the Packer game, but I think 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.400 he's got fifteen or something like that. Like it's impressive. 0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.560 So I don't necessarily think it's wrong because he hasn't 0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.719 scored a touchdown from a long way away in a while. 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.640 But I'm not worried about it either. Okay, I have 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.239 a question for you, ays from Devin. Don't laugh at this. 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.719 Think about it for a second before you answer. Are 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:24.520 we missing tackle at all? I mean, I don't if 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.000 he was, if he was here, would he be active? 0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:30.400 I don't know. I'm gonna say no, I think so. 0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:35.120 I don't, Like, I don't think that like talent wasn't 0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.360 the whole story there, Like there was clearly a rift. 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:42.840 He was clearly in the doghouse, and no It's cliche, 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.279 but like I sometimes players just need a change of 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.440 scenery and he like if he had a ten sacks 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:52.040 season for Miami, I don't I feel like he wouldn't 0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.799 have done that here. You know, he were here, would 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:57.279 we be wanting to see him over Quinn? No, I 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.320 don't think so. Absolutely not. Yeah, I mean that's what 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.560 it and butt their guys. I mean, they wrote take 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:06.319 their guys, so he would he would still probably still 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.040 be inactive, just because for whatever reason. It's he had 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.400 fallen out of favor with the coaching staff or at 0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.279 least the people that were making decisions as to how 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.680 much he was going to play. And I think he 0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.680 probably was over them just as much as they were 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:20.800 over him. And I just I think that's part of it. 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.440 Carry hiders played well. Doren's Armstrong had a sack last week. 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.759 I mean, so you don't think the talented defensive end 0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.440 is the issue. They're just not getting sacks right now. 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:34.520 There are other things that are caught right now. I 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.920 don't know the last two weeks, I'm not super concerned 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.640 about the pass rush. Like they got to Bridgewater five times. 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.800 Rogers is a different animal. They still got him twice, 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.680 and there were another handful of plays where he had 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.960 to do something miraculous to avoid a sack. Lawrence almost 0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:55.560 killed him on the shovel pass. Ye, So I think 0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.640 they're fine right now. Like set I mean, I know 0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.960 that wasn't super convincing, the seven seven sacks in the 0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.440 last two games, and Green Bay was bringing anybody and 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.600 everybody that could help deal with Lawrence. They were using receivers, 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.120 they were using tight ends. That doesn't it doesn't worry 0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.000 me right now. I think that'll be okay, all right. 0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:19.600 Since his a key year seventeen, eighteen and nineteen, zekee zeke. 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.000 How many rushers do you think he's had over thirty 0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:27.560 yards over thirty uh two years Memory had the suspension, 0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:32.160 and I'm gonna say three. I would guess over twenty 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:39.399 over thirty thirty, I would guess eight five. Three nailed it. God, 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:43.200 I'm good. Only three. That's he has not done it 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.680 a lot year. In seven twenty seventeen, member he missed 0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.279 six games. That was against the Redskins. Then he last 0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.920 year he had a forty seven at home against Philly. 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:56.840 Don't remember that forty one against the Redskins. Also, he 0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.520 doesn't do it often, and like you know, it doesn't 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.719 happen off and in the NFL either anyway. But like 0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:04.799 Nick Chopp just went eighty eight against Baltimore's I mean, 0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.040 it would be fun to see that more often. But 0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.080 if he's leading the league in n explosive I mean 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:12.719 twelve plus yard runs, it's not sexy, but it's it 0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:15.160 gets the job done. Like I'm not losing, and most 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.759 coaches are probably rather have that than have a guy 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.960 that gets you. Yeah, but every seven eight, But you 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:26.399 could have both. But what's the what's the flip side? 0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:29.000 Right now, in five games, there's the only team in 0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.919 the league that's got two receivers averaging hundred yards a game, 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:36.319 and that's gallop in Cooper. So they're you know, yeah, 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.200 he's not getting these big long runs because they're making 0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.200 sure of that. But on the on the other end, 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.480 these receivers are I mean some of these passes to 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:48.160 Cooper with him just being wide open with no safety help. 0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.719 I mean, that's just a great route runner who's got 0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.200 deceptive speed and once he gets by the corner, there's 0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:55.160 no one there. And the reason why there's no one 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.960 there because Zeke's not getting the ball going sixty yards again. 0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.440 You know, so there's good and bad to it. I mean, 0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.719 I get it, he might have lost the step a 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.719 little bit, but I still think he's very, very productive. 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.560 And I think that they're they're paid, they're taking advantage 0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:10.480 of it. Do you think that's problematic though, from the 0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:13.000 standpoint that they're able to do that in the passing game, 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.359 but it's not really hurting teams to the point where 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.759 they're beating them. And I mean those two last two 0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:21.040 teams that are really good teams. Yeah, the Cowboys are saying, 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:22.840 we will make you pay for having to do that, 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.480 but it's not resulting in them getting enough to be 0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.680 able to get points. Do you think that that's a 0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.640 problem for Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's other issues there too. 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:34.040 But and and there's a cycle of that, like Okay, 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:36.279 Gallup and Cooper will continue to do that, and then 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.440 teams will not let that happen, and then Zeke will 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:40.160 have a big run. But will they if it's not 0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.839 ending up in losses, then we'll teams say, hey, we'll 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.839 we'll take the big plays by them, but we also 0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.759 think they'll make enough mistakes to where we still can 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:51.640 beat them. We don't. We're still not gonna let Zeke 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.480 get off, right, right, I mean, I think, I mean, 0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.000 I think it's going to take a long period of 0:41:57.160 --> 0:42:01.040 them killing teams with the past before they don't make 0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.239 Zeke their priority. I mean, the Saints game is so 0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.120 weird because we just know how it is. I mean, 0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.640 Randall Cobb, Let's say that pass over the middle, you know, 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.040 let's say there's no PI or whatever, and he gets 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:15.160 ten more yards. They rush up there, they still spike 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.960 it with one second, ten more yards. They're kicking a 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:19.440 sixty yard field. I don't know if he makes it 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:22.239 or not, but if they win, we're not talking about 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.720 the same issues that we're still there from the defense, 0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.719 still there from the offense. You know, Jason Garrett is 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:29.400 a much different coach. If they make us, you know, 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.520 it's always happens like that. So the Packer game was 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.760 more troubling though, for sure. Ye all right, we appreciate 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:36.600 you guys joining us. We are back tomorrow eleven forty 0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.120 five till then predict even Dave Hellman, Danny Serect, I'm 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.400 Derek Eagleson. This has been the Break live on Dallas 0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:46.759 Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.439 Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.