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Speaker 1: On today's OTP Road to Nashville, the Titans preseason opponents

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Speaker 1: for twenty nineteen are out, and we'll review the list

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Speaker 1: with Titans Radio Game Day Handless Dave McGinnis. Coach Mack

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Speaker 1: also previews the talented twenty nineteen defensive line prospects. Plus

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Speaker 1: we'll take your questions as we talk all things draft

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Speaker 1: at All Things Tennessee Titans. All that in pre Next

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Speaker 1: on the April tenth OTP Road to Nashville, it's fifteen

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Speaker 1: days until players are drafted in Nashville. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: OTP Road to Nashville. My name is Mike Keith, and

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Speaker 1: we're glad you are with us. Amy Wells is here. Hello, mate,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, and we're excited for our second Wednesday with

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Speaker 1: Mac Dave McGinnis Titans Radio. Guys. I couldn't wait. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I wish that Wednesday was every day. Not too many

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Speaker 1: with y'all. This is good. We're glad you're here. And

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Speaker 1: something that we're doing now is we're doing social media

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Speaker 1: questions like that for the people watching the OTP Road

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Speaker 1: questions right below, and Amy Wells has been just throwing

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Speaker 1: them out. Yeah, and that box that says comments, type

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Speaker 1: them in, and uh, we'll get them and we'll try

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Speaker 1: and answer them as quickly. Coach like that. I like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm very social. I'm social. I'm social. You like feedback,

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Speaker 1: I'm social, and I like media. I like people. So

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Speaker 1: hit me, let's go. He's unlike most coaches, any coaches

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Speaker 1: I've ever met. Let's get right to the Wednesday headlines.

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Speaker 1: And you got to start with the Titans preseason schedule,

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Speaker 1: which came out yesterday. We teased it on Tuesday's OTP.

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Speaker 1: But the preseason schedule opening at Philadelphia, New England, and

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Speaker 1: then the Sunday night game at home with the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers on August the twenty fifth, and then ending in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, your overall reaction to the preseason sleep. I

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Speaker 1: like it. I mean I always I was always when

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Speaker 1: of the people, the people you'll be working against. I

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Speaker 1: The other two, the two home games, those are really

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Speaker 1: NFC North champion Chicago Bears. I like playing good teams

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Speaker 1: in the pre season because I mean, while you don't

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Speaker 1: That makes those games count more. And we we know

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Speaker 1: they're practice games, we get it, but they're better quality

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Speaker 1: talk obviously is there. Jim Wyatt wrote about it joint

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Speaker 1: practices here with the Patriots potentially yes, and that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: to be then to have the Patriots and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: This is the year to be at Nissan Stadium. Good

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Speaker 1: But really, I mean, those are two entertaining preseason games,

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Speaker 1: Twenty three players will attend the NFL Draft in Nashville,

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Speaker 1: and it is a rock star list. It really is

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Speaker 1: and I took it. I took it for Amy. I

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Speaker 1: something real recently that I had done, you know, when

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Speaker 1: we had we had we took Michael Brockers in twenty twelve.

426
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: You know, big big, and I'll compare him to somebody

427
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: in this draft pretty soon here. But we knew that

428
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: we needed somebody to command some respect inside because we

429
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: had two edge rushers that we wanted to take some

430
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: heat off of. But then when we added Aaron Donald

431
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: to that, then all of a sudden, we had something

432
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: going up front. And you talk about Russell Wilson. We

433
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: were building up front to take care of Russell Wilson

434
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: with four people that could run and track him down

435
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: so that we could use other people back in the

436
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: back and coverage. That's what I think you're looking for.

437
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: Coachback has already made it clear that this overall defensive

438
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: line crop looks good in this draft. So right now

439
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: we're going to take a look at the top defensive

440
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: lineman in the twenty nineteen draft, and obviously our first

441
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: start Tuscaloosa out of defensive line discussion doesn't end with

442
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: Alabama's Quinn and Williams, but it does start with the

443
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: six three, three hundred three pounder. Many believe that Quinn

444
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: and Williams is the surest thing in the first round

445
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: of this draft. Tremendous athletic ability for his six four

446
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: and he'll he'll play pro vocal about three hundred three ten.

447
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: He can run a stunt front. He can be in

448
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: a four man front. He can be in a three

449
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,239
Speaker 1: man front and you'd be wasting him a little bit.

450
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: He can play outside over the tackle, he can play

451
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: over the center. Just well schooled and a phenomenal athlete

452
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: for a man that size. So and he plays like

453
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: a pro meaning with his hands. Most defensive lineman in

454
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: college get by because they've been stronger, faster than the

455
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: other guy. He knows what he's doing with his leverage

456
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: and angles and how to beat this block. And he

457
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: is well schooled. A great NFL combine lifted Clemson's Christian

458
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: Wilkins into elite range discussion. Highly intelligent, highly productive, and

459
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: highly athletic. Wilkins seems to have it all. Somebody as

460
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: an interior player is just disruptive, very quick. You can

461
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: play him in kind of that three technique or or

462
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: a shade over the center and let him get up

463
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: the field. You're gonna live with sometimes or he gets caught.

464
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: He's a little bit high, and you'll see him get

465
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: turned around in the run game. But what he can

466
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: do disruption wise, as a pass rusher and then even

467
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: some negative plays in the run game. That's why I

468
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: like him. Christian Wilkins is really good, but Mississippi States

469
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons might be even better. Simmons must answer off

470
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: the field questions from his past and offseason questions about

471
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: his knee, but as a player, this bulldog is a beast.

472
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: He's one of the five six best players in this draft.

473
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: I mean he developed into an outstanding run stuffer and

474
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: a highly disruptive pass rusher, and I think a team

475
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: is probably gonna wind up getting a value if he

476
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: gets back to one hundred percent in his career, and

477
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: they'll probably get that value later in the first or

478
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: maybe early in the second. How about a wild card

479
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: in the D Houston defensive tackle At Oliver at six

480
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: to two hundred eighty one pounds, scouts wish he was bigger,

481
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: but Oliver's on field resume was plenty big while making

482
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: All America three times for the Cougars. The guy who's

483
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: fascinating is going to be At Oliver from Houston, because

484
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: he's not gonna weigh two hundred ninety five or three

485
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. When you watch his Pape. Sometimes you think

486
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: of a running back the way he moves, and I'm

487
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: anxious to see. He's gonna be very scheme specific because

488
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be a gap player because he

489
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: may weigh two seventy eight, you know, So he's gonna

490
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: have to be a gap player, a penetrator. He's not

491
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: a pure pass rusher. He's gonna have to be taught

492
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of that. But his movement traits are ridiculous.

493
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence's size is ridiculous. This Clemson Tiger weighs three

494
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: hundred forty two pounds and drove a posing offensive lineman,

495
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: crazy rusher. So you know, I like to do a

496
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: long arm rushes washing little Reggie White to learn how

497
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: to do the hump and just the power power moves

498
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: like looking for a prototypical three four defensive end. How

499
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: about Arizona States Renell Wrenn, who measured six five and

500
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: weighed three hundred eighteen pounds at the NFL Combine. Another

501
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: top choice six six, two hundred ninety five pound Notre

502
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: Dame standout, Jerry Tillery, the Shreveport, Louisiana native, figures to

503
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: be a better pro than he was a college player.

504
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: You can't be, you know, a world class pass rusher,

505
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: and you know, and I expect to, you know, be

506
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: stay in this league for very long. You gotta be

507
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: able to play combo blocks, double teams, and be strong

508
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: against the run. If you like Ohio State defensive alignment,

509
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: you like Draymond Jones. Jones weighs two hundred eighty one

510
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: pounds and is disruptive whether playing the run or rushing

511
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: the passer. Talented defensive tackle. Guy that has the length,

512
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: the explosiveness. Eight sacks this season doesn't d job rushing

513
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: a passle but it's also slid against the round. The

514
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: NFL draft is always about projecting players, especially big men.

515
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: That's always true in the defensive line, and one of

516
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: the projection guys will be John Kamenski. Kamenski is six five,

517
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: weighs two hundred eighty six pounds, and ran under four

518
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: or seven in the forty at the combine. A former

519
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: high school quarterback, he gained nearly seventy pounds at the

520
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: University of Charleston and became a fource. Some team will

521
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: believe John Kamenski's athleticism will give him a chance to

522
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: eventually become a difference maker in the defensive line. I

523
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: played in a three three five through college, so I

524
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: don't have experience with a four three or three four,

525
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: So I don't sell myself short with you know, being

526
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: down inside or being on the outside. So you know,

527
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: I can rush the passer on a garden a tackle,

528
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: and I can defend the run on a garden tackle.

529
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: So I consider myself very versatile in that aspect. You know,

530
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm ready to do it all all right, Coach Mack.

531
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: Obviously not every one that we just saw is going

532
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: to be available for the Titans at nineteen. We know that.

533
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: Let's hop into the old notebook. Here. Are there a

534
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: couple people who stick out to you that you think

535
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: will be legitimate contenders at nineteen? Yeah, they're more than

536
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: a couple. First of all, let me commends you, guys,

537
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: not only on the players you have up here. Those

538
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: are all real players, you know, but the people that

539
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: you have vetting them are people that know what they're

540
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: talking about. There are a lot of people that don't

541
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: during this draft, but these guys that y'all talk to,

542
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: Nice job, guys, thank you. Okay, all right, first of all,

543
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: let's go with. Here's here's what we want to do.

544
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins. You had Christian Wilkins up there. Christian Wilkins

545
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: is a guy that I think can play anywhere along

546
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: the defensive front. I'll read you just a little bit

547
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: of what I've got here. Six h three two three

548
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: fifteen seventy eight and seven eighths wing. That's big for

549
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: an interior defensive lineman because he's able to reach out

550
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: and grab. You got a five or four forty. He's

551
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: got quickness, body flexibility, he's got awareness. I thought I

552
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: think he was a three technique master. He's got a

553
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: loose lower body, and what I mean by that in

554
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: close quarters you got to have contact balance. He's got that.

555
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: He keeps his feet during contact. He's got very active hands.

556
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: He's a little inconsistent what you heard say right there

557
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: against the run, but he's got production on both sides

558
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage. This guy's a first year starter.

559
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he absolutely is. I mean, I love, I

560
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: like Christian Wilkins, and I think he's going to be

561
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: a really good one. The other guy that you mentioned

562
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: there that I am very very partial to in this

563
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: draft is Jeffrey Simmons. Jeffrey Simmons, you know out of

564
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. I talked to you earlier about what we

565
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: had done with Michael Brocker's a big, long defensive lineman

566
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: that can disrupt single and double team blocks inside. When

567
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: I went down to LSU to work him out when

568
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: I was coaching with the Rams, Simmons reminds me a

569
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: lot of him. He is a disruptor in the middle.

570
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: He's a powerful player. He's double teamed a lot. He

571
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: crushes one on one matchups. He's a violent player. He

572
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: plays with power. He's nasty. His sudden first step does

573
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: nothing overwhelm me. But he moves easy for a big man.

574
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: He's a very easy mover. Now, this acl tear that

575
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: he suffered, this is gonna be something you're gonna have

576
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: to have to vet that will drop him a little

577
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: bit in the draft. I think when he's healthy, he's

578
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: an instant starter. And and you talked about the issues

579
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: that he had, which was four years ago. If you

580
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: talk to people in Mississippi, which this phone, I need

581
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: a lawn more battery on this phone this time year,

582
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: because I talked to a lot of people. This guy

583
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: has done nothing but work and be a good person

584
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: when he's down there. I like Jeffrey Simmons a lot.

585
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: Whoever gets Jeffrey Simmons is going to get a really

586
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: good player. Let me zero in on that thing. Okay,

587
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: Because the off the field incident that happened in high

588
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: school was significant. Absolutely, Mississippi State knew it was significant.

589
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: In taking him from what you were hearing from your

590
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: NFL friends and the people that you talk with, you

591
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: get a sense that teams are comfortable with where they

592
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: are vetting his character four years later. Absolutely right, because

593
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: he's got four years of of what he's done down there. Absolutely. Look,

594
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: we've all made mistakes and have done thing and the

595
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: incident was something that you have to vet. You can't.

596
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: We're not whitewashing that incident. You're not pushing it aside,

597
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: but you're also looking at it and you're you're digging

598
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: in on it and everything that I hear, I haven't

599
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: been able to vet the kid personally. I know that

600
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: we have here. I know a lot of people in

601
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: the NFL has everybody because everything that you hear that

602
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: is not going to be as big an issue. The

603
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: issue now is how soon this guy's going to be

604
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: healthy for you. I love this player, I think as

605
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: a fan, if that's something that hits you sideways, which

606
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: is completely understandable, you have to trust the character assessment

607
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: that any front office is doing. Every single team in

608
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: the National Football League right now is desperately trying to

609
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: figure out on all of these players, not just done

610
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, what is going on in their lives, how

611
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: they're going to fit into their locker room, how they're

612
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: going to be a representation of their organization. And of

613
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: course they're weighing the athletic ability and all of the

614
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: other upside against that. But as a fan, you have

615
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: to trust that the Tennessee Titans front office and every

616
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 1: other front office in the league is doing everything that

617
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: they possibly can to figure out exactly what went wrong

618
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: and how comfortable they can be with a situation. Well,

619
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: the other thing that you've got to understand is that's

620
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: extremely important when you take a player you know that

621
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: has something in this You understand that you're taking a

622
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: pick and that is a that's a valuable spot for you,

623
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: and so you're wanting something for the future. So you're

624
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: going to vet it very very closely, and as I say,

625
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: everybody's going to do it. I know the Tennessee Titans

626
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: do a tremendous job of vetting those players. But I've

627
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: heard from a lot of other people this guy, this

628
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: guy is going to be on draft boards and he's

629
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: going to be taken regardless of ACCL. This is a

630
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: player that you want as a person and as a player. Okay,

631
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: all right, let's run through some other D line names

632
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: who probably won't be first line, oh, first round picks,

633
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: good gravy, but are still really good players. Start coach

634
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: MC if you would with Isaiah Bugs from Alabama. Okay,

635
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we talked about you know, we

636
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: talked about you know, Alabama. Nick Saban's gonna have good

637
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: players all around the place. Isaiah Bugs is a guy

638
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: six o three one, three hundred and six pounds, number

639
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: forty nine. If you're watching tape, when you guys are

640
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: asking people about players, if they ask him what number

641
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: he is, if they can't tell you what number he is,

642
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: don't ask him anymore because they haven't watched the tape.

643
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: All right, that's important, Okay, he's number forty nine, six

644
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: O three one three oh six seventy five and a

645
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: half wing five one five forty. He's got here's what

646
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: I've written down here. He's got active feet, very aggressive hands.

647
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: He lacks a lot, he lacks length. He can get

648
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: tied up some, but there's a lot of energy to

649
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: his game. I don't see him dominating in any one area.

650
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: His competes. I love his competes. I like his I

651
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: like his power to play interior. And also I think

652
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: this is an excellent, excellent rotational player that will be

653
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: all that will be a good second and third for you.

654
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: And these are the types of players you look for

655
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: later in the draft. All right. Another guy is Kingsley

656
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: Keiki from Texas A and M. What are your thoughts?

657
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Number eight? Kingsley Kingsley Keki from Texas A and M.

658
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: Wore number eighth, six oz two five two hundred and

659
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: eighty eight pounds. Look, I keep talking about wing, but

660
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: it's important for inside because then your range as to

661
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: where you can reach is very important. Eighty two and

662
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: a half. That's big four nine five forty. I think

663
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: he can play multiple spots all right. Now with the

664
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: new coaching staff, you know, when Jimbo Fisher came in, there.

665
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: This defense that Jimbo Fisher started running really accentuated what

666
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: Kingsley Keki could do. He had seven and a half

667
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: sacks in twenty eighteen. He's got a strong build. He's

668
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: got long arms, all right, he's six oz two five,

669
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: but he's got length in his arms. He's got stout lowers.

670
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: I think he's got a burst. He can challenge on

671
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: the edge. He's flexible. It's important to be flexible inside

672
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: because if you're flexible inside, then you have contact balance

673
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: because you're going to be constantly in contact inside there.

674
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: He's got good ben He's got flexion for a player

675
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: that's built like he is, strong hands, he's got lockout capability.

676
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: He's not a big power front end loader that can

677
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: drop an anchor a lot, but I like his versatility.

678
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: This is a guy I think that can really be

679
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: coached up. You're looking in the fourth round for him.

680
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: In my opinion, this is the guy you might want

681
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: to look at. All right, let's flip in the old

682
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: notebook here to Tristan Hill from Central Florida. Yeah, Triston

683
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: Hill is interesting because number nine Triston Hill is interesting.

684
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: The new staff that came in down there when when

685
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: Scott Frost, when he left Triston Hill, did not mess

686
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: with this new with his new coaching staff. Let's just

687
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: be honest with that. They didn't like him. He didn't

688
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: like them prior to that. His what he had done

689
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: six h two six, three hundred and eight pounds five

690
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: or four or forty. He's got quick feet. He looks

691
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: to be disruptive to me. He makes some plays. He's

692
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: not a refined player at all, but he's got movement

693
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: skills for a big body, and that's what you're looking

694
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: for when you're looking at this at this point in

695
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: the draft, he looks like a three technique to me.

696
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: He's got power I think to develop. He's not a

697
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: polished technique wise guy, but he's also a guy. Now,

698
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: what you have to vent is he only started one

699
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: game this year, so there was a little friction between

700
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: he and the new staff. Find out what the issue was.

701
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: But if we're just talking about a player physical capabilities,

702
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: that's a guy down the line you might want to

703
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: look at if everything else messes up. What about a

704
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: guy like Daylon Mack from Texas A m We're working

705
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: you hard in this notebook. Now, now you're really not.

706
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: Dalon Mack is number thirty four. He's from Gladewater, Texas.

707
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: You know where that is six in Texas? Y I'll

708
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: show you where it is sometimes six one h three

709
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six pounds. Oh, so you're talking about

710
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: a guy that's really thick down inside and he knocks

711
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage back. He's got a lot of

712
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: knock back to him. He's short squat. This is a

713
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: power based player. He's got good initial explosiveness. He's got

714
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: he's got natural leverage. He's natural leverage. He's built load

715
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: of the ground. That's something that's important. He can close

716
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: quick in a short area. Now you don't get much

717
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: extended out of him because you know he doesn't get

718
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: much to the edge. He's a bull rusher. He's a

719
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: run stopper. But when you're looking, and if you're looking,

720
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: if you want a complimentary piece to some other people,

721
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: number thirty four, Dayaln Mac. If you want to watch

722
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: Texas A and M film, take a look. He's not

723
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: as big as Dylan Mac. But there's actually another guy

724
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 1: on the list, and it's the guy who's fiance went

725
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: into labor. The first part of the practice week at

726
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: this year's twenty nineteen Reese's Senior Bowl. I'm talking about

727
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: Western Illinois Colin Saunders. His fiance said, stay in mobile

728
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: for our family. I'll handle everything here. She did. She

729
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: gave birth to a beautiful daughter. Colin Saunders went out,

730
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: had a great practice week, made a bunch of your

731
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: money for himself, and now he's on the radar as

732
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: a possible day to pick. Watch this. Tumbling is a

733
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: part of your of your life, of your routine of

734
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: what you do competitive tumbling. No, not at all recreational

735
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: of anything. Yeah, yeah, but it's it's a hobby. It's

736
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: something that you do and certainly shows your athleticis right, yes, sir,

737
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's no, it's just a hobby. Um.

738
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: You know one of those things I grew up doing

739
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: when I was like nine, nine years old, eight years old,

740
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 1: and um it was one of those things that stuck

741
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: with me like like and I just got bigger, kept

742
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: getting bigger. So it's one of those talents where once

743
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: you learn how to do it, you know, you never

744
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: lose how to do it, unless like I have you know,

745
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: all thry this or all kind of stuff like that.

746
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: But as long as I'm a healthy body, I feel

747
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: like I'll always be able to do that time. And see,

748
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: the thing is, we have a guy named Durell Casey.

749
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: He's a four time pro bowler, and he's built a

750
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: lot like you, but very athletic. And then I think

751
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: of a player like Aaron Donalds, who's obviously worth two

752
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. There's something now, but guys like you

753
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: who can do these things that allows you to make

754
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: plays on the inside in the D line, right, no doubt,

755
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: no doubt. Like you said, um no, that kind of

756
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: athletic twitch that you're talking about with Darrell and Aaron,

757
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: I feel like that's one of the things I have

758
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: as far as just moving quick, getting off the ball fast,

759
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And um, like you said, that leads

760
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: to a lot of a lot of plays made in

761
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: the backfield or just plays made in general. You play

762
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: with the kind of passion and love that you're showing

763
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: us today. Yeah, sir, Yeah sir, this is your secret weapon.

764
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, this is a game. I've been playing for

765
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: about fourteen years, and you don't do something that long

766
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: without loving. And I could have easily gave it up,

767
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, I actually did have offers from pretty big

768
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: time schools for shot put, like for its track and field,

769
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: and but I just couldn't imagine going without playing football.

770
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: This is this is a love, This is a passion,

771
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: a true and genuine passion as well. Like it's not

772
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: just one of those guys you know that have the

773
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: talent to go to the NFL and then since they

774
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: have the talent, they say I love the game, Like, no,

775
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: if I if I was terrible at football, I would

776
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: still love it because it's just so fun. It's such

777
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: a fun game and and you can really get involved.

778
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: You can really express yourself on the field, you know,

779
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: especially in the NFL with the celebration rules now you

780
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: can do you can do a lot of stuff. So yeah,

781
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: I love this game, and um, I couldn't imagine my

782
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: life without it. And that's why I planned on after

783
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: the NFL. No matter what, I'm gonna coach, no matter

784
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: what I don't, don't matter where I end up, it

785
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how long I play in the NFL, doesn't

786
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: matter about anything. I'm gonna coach because I love just

787
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: sharing that knowledge and sharing my experience with young players.

788
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: This is a guy I want to have lunch with

789
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't care where he ends up going what he

790
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: ends up doing. Okay, dabbles in tumbling. Well, he did

791
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: a cart wheel. He did it flip in front of

792
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: the Raiders team, the Raider's staff, and his entire team

793
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: after the first day of practice in mobile Well, of course,

794
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: because what else are you gonna do? Crazy? Well, he's

795
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: a giant human, but he is, so he's doing this

796
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: tumbling thing. He's shot, he does shot putt. He wants

797
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: to be a coach. He's already thought about all that.

798
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: It's incredible. His brother's a choreographer. Like, they just have

799
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: an interesting family. And I want to have lunch with him.

800
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: I'll buy that man at pizza and we will talk. Well,

801
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: you won't get any of it. Well, that's okay, He'll

802
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: probably probably good for me. You need to buy two

803
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Pizzas you told me this morning. He had not fallen

804
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: in love with any player yet in this draft. Colin

805
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: Saunders might be it. He might be my guy. This

806
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: is a Saint Louis kid, you know in high school.

807
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: Because he's another stump. I mean six oz three three

808
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four pounds. I like his game now,

809
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: what you're looking at is you're looking at when you're

810
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: looking at the level of competition that he's playing against.

811
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: When you get a player that's playing against lower competition,

812
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: let's just be honest, he has to dominate. This guy does.

813
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: He's quick, he's got excellent body control, he makes flash plays.

814
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: He's not you know, he's a raw athlete with his

815
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: skill and strength. He's not polished at all. But this

816
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: guy could play shade, he could play a true nose.

817
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: He's got tremendous raw potential. And when you're you talk

818
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: about it's it's obvious that this guy has body control.

819
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: But when you see him do those backflips and stuff,

820
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean, take a pickup and try to flip it

821
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: over and do it. I mean, that's that's what you're

822
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: looking at with this guy. He's a great effort player.

823
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: Wherever this guy goes, if he gets to camp, you're

824
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: gonna have a hard time not having him on your team.

825
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: And then when you listen to him, he's a very

826
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: focused he's clearly very mature. I like the player, and

827
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: then I like the person even more. When you start

828
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: looking at this you bring him into camp, you get

829
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: him on your you get him on your team. He's

830
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys that every personnel meeting

831
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: you have, you're gonna go. Let's keep him here for

832
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: a little while longer. Let's keep him here a little

833
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: while longer. Again, and another interesting player. I haven't met

834
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: every person, but I think he's the most interesting man

835
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: in the drafty like a renaissance man. All right, all right,

836
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: do you guys want to do some social questions them?

837
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: All right, coach mac, here's one for you. For the

838
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: first defensive draft pick for the Tessee Titans. Would you

839
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: rather go edge rusher or defensive tackle? Who would tell

840
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: me the players that are there? Because because you've got

841
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: you have got you know, I've already said I like

842
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: Brian Burns a lot, thinking somebody that might you know,

843
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: that might be there. My favorite edge guy in this

844
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: in this draft is Josh Allen. I've told you that

845
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: in previous in previous podcast, I like Brian Burns what

846
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: he brings. If Christian Wilkins is sitting there, we're talking

847
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: about at nineteen now, you know, with Christian Wilkins sitting there,

848
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: some of these guys that we vetted today and have

849
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: talked about, they're not going to be there, you know

850
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: at nineteen to me with what we need inside? All right,

851
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: you look down through the draft. I'm talking about second

852
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 1: to fourth round. Those big men that can move, they're

853
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: hard to find. Do you think that the Tennessee Titans

854
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: can get a quality defensive tackle on day three? On

855
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: day three? Day three, you will get somebody that can

856
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: that can help you. And here's why, here's why I

857
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: believe this. On day three, here's what you've got a

858
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: factor in. You have to factor in your coaching staff

859
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: because on day three you're talking about developmental players. And

860
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: so then what you what you trust? When I the

861
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: staffs that I've been on, Let's start with the defensive

862
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: line coach. I was here with Jim Washburn. We knew

863
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: if we had a Day three guy that he liked,

864
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: he would develop him. When I was with Mike Waffle

865
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: all those years he was the defensive line coach at

866
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: the Giants when they're in the Super Bowl, defensive line coach,

867
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: you knew that if he liked a guy and you

868
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: took him on day three, he would work to develop him.

869
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: And so we've got an excellent, excellent defensive front staff

870
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: right here. So yes, you will get somebody that they

871
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: can develop on Day three and development, it's what you're

872
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: talking about when you're talking about Day three players. If

873
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: you were John Robinson, what position would you consider in

874
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: the first round? And let me say that you have

875
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: a lot of guys who are all graded the same way.

876
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: This is just strictly position. Well, I mean, and I

877
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: know what John Robinson's answer is because I've heard him

878
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: and he's saying the right things. He's gonna take the

879
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: best player that's there that he can. He's going to

880
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: take the best player that's there. And I'm not going

881
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: to talk for John Robinson. I'm not going to talk

882
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: for John Robinson or Mike Rabel. I've been in their positions.

883
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: I know what they're doing and what they're looking at.

884
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: I promise you this, whoever he picks in the first round,

885
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: if he stays there, because John Robinson's got a chance

886
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: to do anything, if he stays there will be someone

887
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: that can help immediately. I promise you that. All Right,

888
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: here's my last question. Only this is the last one. Well,

889
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: this is the last one because I mean, we've got

890
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: people have days that they've got things they've got to do. Ok, Okay,

891
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: is the Titans first pick going to go immediately from

892
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: Broadway to Saint Thomas Sports Park. No, the answers no, right,

893
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: the answers no noms. In terms of the night, yes, No,

894
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: they'll spend the night celebrating with their favorite. They would

895
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: do something I would think the next day. Yes, because

896
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: the team is still working through the first round. Obviously

897
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: there will be press and all of those things will

898
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: happen downtown. In terms of the press conference with the team,

899
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: I don't think he comes here and does that right

900
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: away because John Robinson and staff are still even after

901
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: they pick, if they pick at nineteen, they still have

902
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: work to do. A lot of work happens after your pick,

903
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: because then what you start to do, you start to

904
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: repod the board, the board you've got two You've got

905
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: two rounds to go the next day, and then you

906
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: start to repod the board you've got You know, clearly

907
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: follow what happens, but there's a lot of work that

908
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: goes on. A lot of work and repositioning goes on

909
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: after your picks. See what we need him to do

910
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: is come to the general Jackson. We'll see there. We're

911
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: doing that. We're doing our Titans radio coverage and hosting

912
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: the season ticket members right by the way about that.

913
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: So we're doing that the first night Thursday, the second

914
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: night Friday. The boat is full each of those two nights.

915
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I can't wait much. Well, I'll tell you

916
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: this though. Talking with Stephanie Atkins, who was a guest

917
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: on our show on Friday, and she's with the ticket

918
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: office and really is coordinating all of this. We're doing

919
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: a Wednesday night event on the boat from six to seven,

920
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: a Titans radio preview of the draft. Mike Rabel's going

921
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: to be there. John Robinson's going to be there. There

922
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: are some spots still available for season ticket members to

923
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: be there for the coach and the GM Wednesday night,

924
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: So get in touch with your ticket rep and you

925
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: have a chance to be part of that. Not a

926
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: lot of spots remaining for all these season ticket member

927
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: events that we're doing. No, absolutely not. So if you

928
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: have the ability, act fast. But I do want to

929
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: reiterate that after the Titans pick at nineteen, they're not

930
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: coming here, So don't you come here. You're not going

931
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: to see them. You will be seeing some tired maybe

932
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: craw what you'd be saying, is security exhaust they won't

933
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: let you hit Yeah, but really, spend the night out.

934
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: The new pick is going to do some media stuff,

935
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: spend the night with their family celebrating what sleeping. Yeah,

936
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: and then they'll come in the next day to Saint

937
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: Thomas Sports Park and meet everybody and do the big

938
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: the pageantry and all that. But don't come here. You

939
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: are seeing so you're done with the social. I'm done

940
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: with the social. But I do have a note, a note,

941
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: and it's for you, Mike kids, A note for me. Well,

942
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: so I rewatched these shows, you know, just to watch yourself. Well,

943
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: it's like watching film. I try to get better every show.

944
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: I like that. And one of the things, just watching yourself,

945
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: that's not important. One of the things I noticed. We're

946
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: talking about you, Mike, Okay, is that a couple days

947
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: ago we were talking about the CMA Awards, Yes, Monday, Yes,

948
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: and you were I think what you were trying to

949
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: say was the brothers. I don't know what I said, um,

950
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: but I think what you were trying to say was

951
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: that the brothers Osborne. Yeah, well they they the brothers

952
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: Osborne and Dirk's Bentley won an ACM Award for the

953
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: Best Performance. I believe, right, but that's not what you said.

954
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: What you said was Dirks Bentley and the Brothers Osborne. No,

955
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: you said the Osman Brothers. No I did, Yes, you did,

956
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: I did not. Can we roll back the tape? Can

957
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: we prove that that's what he said? Musical Event of

958
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: the Year, Dirks Bentley really featuring the Osman Brothers, burning Man,

959
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: really featuring the Osman Brothers burning Man. Yeah, that's the

960
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: wrong group. Those are not Wait wait, wait, can I

961
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: get in on this different brothers? Can I get in

962
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: on this? Please? Please? I've been to Brothers Osborne concert. Uh,

963
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: they're not They're not brothers. I mean there's a difference.

964
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: There's a difference. It's all music. But I mean, look,

965
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: coach Mac doesn't know a lot, but I think I

966
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: could tell the difference between the Brothers Osborne and Brothers Brothers.

967
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: So of them has more choreography, a little more. One

968
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: of them has beards, Amy Wills, Can I say this, Yes,

969
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: that's why you watch tape to go back, and that's

970
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. I've watched football tape with you. I

971
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: know you've got a nice eye for detail. Just trying

972
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: to keep everybody on track. You know, it's very very

973
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: nice job. I guarantee the Osman brothers like that shout

974
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: out because nobody's thought about them in thirty years. Good job, Amy,

975
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: just just trying to help everybody out when they're to

976
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: be confusion. Worst. Second little note for Mike Key trying

977
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: to do better. So every day a little better every day.

978
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: I apologize to the brothers. Maybe they're really flattered. Brothers

979
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: were a successful man forty years ago. Yeah. Wow. Tomorrow

980
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: on the OTP Road to Nashville. Yeah, that's all you need.

981
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: Three headlines, four time Pro Bowl tight end. Delaney Walker

982
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: is in here. Delaney Walker, Delaney Walker, Delany Walker. What

983
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: day is it? What day is it? What day is it? Oh?

984
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: Hump day? Well Walker to Lany Walker to Landy Walker. Yeah,

985
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: and we are so excited to have him in here.

986
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: He'll do the social media questions and everything. And that's

987
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: tomorrow on the OTP Road to Nashville. Also, want to

988
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: remind you that we are recording with Mike Vrabel tomorrow.

989
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: We've carved out a window of time. We will air

990
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: that on Friday. That will air Friday as the OTP

991
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: Road to Nashville. We are looking for your questions for

992
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: the head coach. Tweet those to Amy Wells at Titans Amy,

993
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: and we had better response yesterday. We did after Mike

994
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: just full on shamed people after the lame response on

995
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: Monday that that was Amy's term, she called you lame.

996
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: But yesterday you were much better. Here here's the thing.

997
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: We got the head coach and obviously he's busy, so

998
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: for him for him to carve out time good. Yeah.

999
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 1: So we can't do it live and take your questions live,

1000
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: but we want your questions, so tweet them to Amy

1001
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: Wells at Titans Amy. That's at Titans A m I

1002
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: e for coach Mike Vrabel get him in. Yes, I

1003
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: have a list I would like to add to my

1004
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: list and obviously too. We are so glad you're joined

1005
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: us for this live program. But if you can't, you

1006
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: can watch us at Titans Online dot com where the

1007
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: show lives, or you could just be safe and subscribe

1008
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: to the OTP tell them how to do it, Amy Wells.

1009
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: If you go wherever you get your podcasts, iTunes is

1010
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: a good one. Um, just hit subscribe. That's really all

1011
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: you have to do. It goes straight to your phone.

1012
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: You don't even have to think about it. Wake up

1013
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: in the morning, go oh, a new podcast. I'll listen

1014
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: to it while I'm working out. Okay, it's really that easy.

1015
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: It's really that easy, Coach Mac, thank you so much.

1016
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to download the Osman Brothers. Here. I'm gonna,

1017
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to some tunes. I feel like they've

1018
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 1: got to have like a YouTube channel. Right now, I'm gonna,

1019
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna download them Osman Brothers. YouTube's the

1020
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: remainder of the day. Thanks guys, it's always a pleasure.

1021
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: Never know what you might get here for Coach Dave

1022
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: McGinnis and Amy Wells, every member of the Osman family,

1023
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: the Osborne Brothers and the Brothers Osborne Mike Keith. Remind

1024
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: you players will be drafted in Nashville in fifteen days.

1025
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us for the OTP Road to Nashville.

1026
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: As the Walk of Shame begins for me, have a

1027
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: great day. The Osman brother I did not set them

1028
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: back down, never going to quit on the side of

1029
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: the track. Songtown Kid