WEBVTT - Cameron Mathison

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<v Speaker 1>This is Sex Lies and Spray Tands with Me, Cheryl

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<v Speaker 1>Burke and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to Sex

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<v Speaker 1>Lies and Spray Tans. He's a man of many talents,

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<v Speaker 1>navigating the world of entertainment with ease and charm, from

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<v Speaker 1>captivating audiences on daytime soap operas to becoming a beloved

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<v Speaker 1>host on primetime TV. His career is a testament to

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<v Speaker 1>dedication and charisma beyond the screen. His personal journey, including

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<v Speaker 1>a courageous battle with cancer and a commitment to healthy living,

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<v Speaker 1>showcases his resilience and passion. We all remember his dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>performances on Dancing with the Stars, where he and the

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<v Speaker 1>studying edit Teslawinska Wowdust in season five, dancing their way

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<v Speaker 1>to an impressive fifth place finish. Join me as we

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<v Speaker 1>dive into the fascinating world of Cameron Matheson. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Sex Lies and Freaking spray Tans. My friend, I am

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<v Speaker 1>normally interviewed by you, but now the tables have that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I get to sit and listen and answer your questions

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<v Speaker 2>for once.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I have to listen, that's the problem, but I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the research I've done on you was

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<v Speaker 1>very I was pleasantly surprised, right, and I have so

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<v Speaker 1>many questions for you, and this is more than just

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<v Speaker 1>dancing with the stars, though. We're going to cover it,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you worry. We're gonna just rewind all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back to when you were a little tiny Cameron Matheson.

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<v Speaker 2>Little Cameron little.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your very first memory as a kid, do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's it's like not a great way maybe

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<v Speaker 2>to start.

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<v Speaker 1>Off this interview, like, No, it's okay, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I was diagnosed with a degenerated bone disease and

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<v Speaker 2>both my hip bones when I was a kid, and

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<v Speaker 2>my first memory that I ever had was at the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor's office. I didn't really know why. I was like

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<v Speaker 2>like two and a half or maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>less two and a half, and I remember my mom

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of the doctor's office with tears in her eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my first memory. Yeah, and I didn't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the first memory I have. Yeah, bring it down.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's okay, you know what My first memory is

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<v Speaker 1>my father with another woman, so like that looked exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like my mother. He had a thing for Filipinos, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but rest in peace. So yeah, this is why I asked,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is like, you know, we don't do small

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<v Speaker 1>talk here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that's that's the truth. And I'm sorry that

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<v Speaker 2>that's your first memory that I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry that that's your first memory. But well, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>other than your first memory, is what do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>from all of that? Did that affect you, like through

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<v Speaker 1>your teenage life and your adulthood or no.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you know, it would be impossible to

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<v Speaker 2>say that it didn't. So yeah, I was diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 2>the degenerative bone disease. I had to wear a big

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<v Speaker 2>metal a frame brace on my legs for four years,

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<v Speaker 2>night and day. I had to sleep with it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was think of like Forrest Gump, but he could walk

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<v Speaker 2>in his Mine was way out and it was rigid,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a crutching back and a crutch in front.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to lift myself up and swing forward and

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<v Speaker 2>land and then move my crutches and lift up and swing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how I would walk. And then I was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>carried into bed and I had to sleep with it,

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<v Speaker 2>which was, by the way, the hardest part and the

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<v Speaker 2>only time it came off when I was lowered into

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<v Speaker 2>the bath, you know, like put in the bath, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I was sort of put back in this price.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did that until I was seven and as

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<v Speaker 2>so it really so my point is is that it

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<v Speaker 2>really did. You know, those were very formative years. I

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<v Speaker 2>was the guy that mothers would tell their kids not

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<v Speaker 2>to stare at. I was bullied, I was I was

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<v Speaker 2>made fun of. It was you know, we all we

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<v Speaker 2>all have our history, we all have our childhood stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that like sticks with us. That's that's definitely mine. And

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<v Speaker 2>so through my teenage years, I probably tried to overcompensate

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, you know, like I tried, without me realizing it,

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to be you know, the super athlete, the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who you know did great in school or got

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<v Speaker 2>the girls or whatever it was. And I tried to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of make up for that sort of that subconscious

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<v Speaker 2>identification as a crippled kid or a disabled kid. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, crippled isn't a PC term, but that was

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<v Speaker 2>the that was sort of my mantra by kind of

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<v Speaker 2>going overboard, and you know, which you know, in a

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<v Speaker 2>way obviously never kind of filled that void, but in

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<v Speaker 2>a way also it kind of drove me and I

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<v Speaker 2>realized you know, I made a lot of mistakes along

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<v Speaker 2>the way, but it definitely I'm grateful for the experience now,

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<v Speaker 2>super grateful for the experience. I think it's made me

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more compassionate towards others, a lot more sensitive

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<v Speaker 2>and empathetic. I think I realized that I can get

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<v Speaker 2>through unbelievably difficult circumstances. And all the photos I have

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<v Speaker 2>of myself during that time, I had a big smile

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<v Speaker 2>on my face and I was like, that guy's awesome, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that little kid man, way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Were your parents did they play a big role in

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<v Speaker 1>keeping you positive and optimistic?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think through that whole experience, my parents were amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother was amazing. I have an older brother, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a year and a half older than me, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was sort of like my my my feet on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground kind of guy. When I needed to to get

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<v Speaker 2>stuff done, he was my hero. And my mom and

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<v Speaker 2>dad were super positive and hands on. They bought a

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<v Speaker 2>special cars that kind of like, you know, it's back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day when you were in the way back

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<v Speaker 2>of the station wagon. You know you were just throwing

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<v Speaker 2>back there, you know, put the guy with the brace

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<v Speaker 2>on his leg, but at the same time. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they you know, they were amazing and they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom passed away, but my dad still is and

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<v Speaker 2>super supportive. And yeah, I think I think that really helped,

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<v Speaker 2>having that foundation. I think also there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of unhealthy ways to deal with it, sweeping things under

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<v Speaker 2>the rug. You know, we didn't talk about it a band.

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<v Speaker 2>If my kids went through that, I would be like

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it and making sure they were seeing somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I just decided it was just the time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So there was periods of my life where

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<v Speaker 2>I totally forgot about it and I'd see an old

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<v Speaker 2>picture and I'd be like, oh my god, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like completely incapacitated until I was seven. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was ways that I would try to,

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<v Speaker 2>like I told you, try to like make up for

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<v Speaker 2>it in maybe somewhat healthy ways, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be overactive or be the guy in shape, or be

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<v Speaker 2>the fastest or you know, play college basketball. And I

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<v Speaker 2>did all these things later in life that people never

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<v Speaker 2>thought I could do considering how I started. But then

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<v Speaker 2>there was also ways that it affected me negatively. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think and you know, and you know, using substances

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<v Speaker 2>to numb out a little bit, I, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be I was in school for engineering. I graduated

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<v Speaker 2>with an engineering degree and in a very very good

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<v Speaker 2>school in Canada, and I was going on to get

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<v Speaker 2>my MBA, and I went into this whole industry for

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<v Speaker 2>all the wrong reasons, to be completely honest, some super

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<v Speaker 2>racial industry, yeah, in the entertainment industry, mostly to try

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<v Speaker 2>to be I think subconsciously recognized for somebody other than

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<v Speaker 2>that kid that was like, you know, the disabled kid,

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<v Speaker 2>And to get that sort of attention was like a

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<v Speaker 2>real hit and sort of filling that void. Now it

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<v Speaker 2>became something that I studied and took very seriously, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super grateful for that. I've worked very very steadily

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<v Speaker 2>in it. But at the same time, I remember making

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<v Speaker 2>that decision and what it felt like. So there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of unhealthy ways that I managed with the

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<v Speaker 2>pain and the sort of the PTSD, and then there's

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot of healthy ways. But even the unhealthy

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<v Speaker 2>ways that I went through ultimately allowed me to really

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<v Speaker 2>take a good look at myself and recognize wrong paths

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<v Speaker 2>and correct passes. Far as you know, what we can

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<v Speaker 2>do to help ourselves feel better from the inside out

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<v Speaker 2>instead of like grasping and stuff from the outside and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, needing and wanting, you know, whether it's attention

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<v Speaker 2>or fame, or money or partners or like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>versus just really kind of accessing that that peace of

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<v Speaker 2>mind and that self worth from within, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean I'm also just on this journey. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just learning, right. I mean I had to get a

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<v Speaker 1>divorce and I now alone and I'm not I'm choosing

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<v Speaker 1>not to date and all of it because of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if this is a new though, it's so simple,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, and I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>can relate. We make it very complicated and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get validity from.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you, by the way, thank you, Yeah, good

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<v Speaker 2>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to see for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's amazing, that's incredible. I you know, I followed

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<v Speaker 2>your story a little bit and you're thinking about you

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<v Speaker 2>and sending lots of love through it. So good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Cameron's And you know that just stems back also

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<v Speaker 1>from trauma and PTSD. But then also, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe a lot of people in the entertainment industry, even

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't want to say it, or they don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever want to have that moment of like, okay, why

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<v Speaker 1>am I here? Which is okay, by the way, no judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that validity of people clapping for you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it does something to you, to your system

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<v Speaker 1>to where it is addicting and where you believe that

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<v Speaker 1>that is where your self worth lies right in other

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<v Speaker 1>people's hands. And then when it's taken away, or when

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<v Speaker 1>you choose for it to be taken away, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a wake up call, you know, because and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people in the industry especially like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that is more common than not common. Put it

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<v Speaker 1>that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're absolutely right. I think it's even even

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<v Speaker 2>the strongest of people from the perspective sort of mental health,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know, and getting it even it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>an incredibly powerful drug. The attention and the adoration and

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<v Speaker 2>the agile and it's it's very very powerful. And even

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in a great place in your life, it

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<v Speaker 2>can sneak in and you can start kind of grasping

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<v Speaker 2>at it and needing it and wanting more of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't even realize it. But then when you

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<v Speaker 2>stop getting it and they get it, you go to

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<v Speaker 2>other lengths. It's a funny thing. And I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't apply to everybody, but I bet you it applies

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<v Speaker 2>to the more people than we all.

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<v Speaker 1>Think exactly, And that is it's traumatic if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever have that, like come to Jesus because you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, and then you like, for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>love how deep we're talking because this is my vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>How was it as far as rejection goes, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you first started in this industry? Or I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you said that you actually wanted to write off your

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<v Speaker 1>trip when you were in Manhattan because and so that

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<v Speaker 1>was your ticket into all my children? Am I getting

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<v Speaker 1>this right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? One hundred percent. I was living in Toronto. I had, like,

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<v Speaker 2>as I mentioned, I'd left my I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>start a design build company with my best friend, who

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<v Speaker 2>was an architect. I had graduated from civil engineering and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd left all that and started like modeling and acting.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was and I bought a cool loft condo

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<v Speaker 2>in Toronto, where I'm from, and things were just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of exciting and cool, and I wanted to go see

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<v Speaker 2>my friends in New York City just for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wanted to write off the trip. So I

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<v Speaker 2>went to see an acting agent in New York just

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<v Speaker 2>to say, you know, just to write it off. And

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<v Speaker 2>they said you should go see the casting director and

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<v Speaker 2>all my children. And I was like, I got it,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a part. I got I don't have time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I was didn't even want to go. And

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<v Speaker 2>her name is Judy Wilson. She changed my life, but

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<v Speaker 2>I went. I finally went to see her. She gave

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<v Speaker 2>me a script. And you know what this is like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a cold read. For people at home that don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Cold read is when you just get a scene from

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<v Speaker 2>a script and they give you five ten minutes to

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<v Speaker 2>look it over and then they're going to put you

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<v Speaker 2>on tape or you're going to perform it in front

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<v Speaker 2>of a group of people. And five ten minutes is

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<v Speaker 2>not a long time to look something over.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did it, and you have to memorize it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that world, so you have to memorize it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I figured you've been on camera so much,

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<v Speaker 2>but I will not.

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<v Speaker 1>To memorize memorized scripts.

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<v Speaker 2>I could help you, but yeah, when it cold read,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't you don't really memorize it. You just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of get the essence of it and you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like are listening and it's there for you and I

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<v Speaker 2>and I actually have a copy of that audition or

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<v Speaker 2>that could which is which is so crazy to see.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway from that, they they liked it enough that

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<v Speaker 2>they gave me a screen test and they wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>part on All my Children called Ryan Lavery and that

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<v Speaker 2>was in nineteen ninety seven. Wow, and I moved to

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<v Speaker 2>New York in nineteen ninety seven, and yeah, it changed

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<v Speaker 2>my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it did change your life. Yeah, Okay, So then

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<v Speaker 1>how was that? Was that a shock share system?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a muscle. I actually think my engineering background

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<v Speaker 2>helped me train. So in engineering, you got you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>cram and memorize, and then you forget and cram and

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<v Speaker 2>memorize all nighters and then like it's it's like that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of dynamic. So I feel like by the time

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<v Speaker 2>I got into All my Children, which is so for

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<v Speaker 2>people that don't know it, be anywhere from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>five pages in one day to about sixty pages of

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<v Speaker 2>your own dialogue in one day, which is an extreme amount,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's possible. I've definitely had that more than once.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you've got it. You've got sixty pages of your

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<v Speaker 2>own script. You know, your own scenes in there where

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<v Speaker 2>you're memorizing, and you'd be really surprised at how you're

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<v Speaker 2>able to do it. There's little tricks in the trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's got their own little secrets. Uh. It was really

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<v Speaker 2>hard for me at first. I remember my first few

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<v Speaker 2>days on the show, because you're so self conscious, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you not only are you memorizing the words,

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<v Speaker 2>but you got to know you're blocking. You got to

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<v Speaker 2>know what they mean to you. You got to know

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<v Speaker 2>your history. You've got to know you know when you

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<v Speaker 2>pick up the thing and move across the table and

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<v Speaker 2>when you grab the jacket, and so you're thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>not only your lines, but also what we call blocking.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what actually threw me more than just memorizing

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting. It was making it real, being natural, making

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<v Speaker 2>the moves across. You don't want these moves to be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is when I crossed to pick up the You

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<v Speaker 2>want it all to be more motivated by the words

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<v Speaker 2>and by your intention, And that was that took me

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. But I had a great coach in

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<v Speaker 2>New York, City. So I studied in New York City

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<v Speaker 2>while I was at All My Children. It was amazing

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<v Speaker 2>Tanya Barrison, who helped me and some of the young

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<v Speaker 2>people on All My Children kind of get through that

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<v Speaker 2>stretch and really really good magical memories, actually really good memories.

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<v Speaker 1>So then it must have been easy Dancing with the

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<v Speaker 1>Stars for you. That sounds like what you just listed

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<v Speaker 1>as far as what you needed to do, sounds a

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<v Speaker 1>lot like the show and how rigorous and how there's

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<v Speaker 1>a million and one things you have to do. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then smile and you know, look like you're having

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<v Speaker 1>a freaking blast at the same time. Why don't you?

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<v Speaker 1>But not only did you do Dancing with the Stars? You,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend did both All My Children and Dancing with

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<v Speaker 1>the Stars traveled back and forth from New York to

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles on a weekly basis. Was this I would

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<v Speaker 1>have killed you if you were my partner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Editus Lensko who was my partner, she was a

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<v Speaker 2>hero and she put up with me. Yes, so we

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was shooting six episodes of All My

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<v Speaker 2>Children in three days in New York, so they would

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<v Speaker 2>they would jam me up. Uh. For when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in New York and edit. It was there waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>me rehearsing. In between scenes. We would you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>wouldhearse in New York and then we would take basically

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<v Speaker 2>Red Eyes both Way more or less, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was a crazy, crazy schedule, was back when the

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<v Speaker 2>show was on Monday and Tuesday nights. I'll say this

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<v Speaker 2>that I still believe I've done. I've done amazingly difficult things.

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<v Speaker 2>I just shot one hundred episodes of a game show

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<v Speaker 2>in four weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Which was really really really hard New One, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I'll say this, that was probably the closest

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I've done to how difficult my schedule wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>Dancing with the Stars. That was me. That was for

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<v Speaker 2>for decades. You know, it's almost been two decades. The

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<v Speaker 2>hardest thing I've ever done as far as trying to

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to dance. I was not a natural dancer,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but I was very hard worker and I

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<v Speaker 2>could memorize things. But I was doing one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty pages of dialogue, which is six episodes in New

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<v Speaker 2>York learning how to dance flyd Red Eyes both Ways,

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<v Speaker 2>plus the press, plus the requests and all.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have a family, and then and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I had a family, which was really hard. To

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, I can't imagine. Yeah it was. It was

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<v Speaker 2>very tough on my wife and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure and it didn't help that Ada has so

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<v Speaker 1>ugly to look at is a very cove.

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<v Speaker 2>Odd I didn't notice, I really, Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what my listeners would love to know more

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<v Speaker 1>of is the psychology behind the show and why people

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<v Speaker 1>get so emotional. Why I'm still talking about it after

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<v Speaker 1>retiring two years ago. It's like, get over it, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it really has put a he It was

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<v Speaker 1>at my world. It was my world for twenty six seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And with that, whether you want to call

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<v Speaker 1>it trauma, bonding or whatever, but there has been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of un I guess, unresolved emotions from everyone I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked to the show, because you do. It's like it

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<v Speaker 1>it may just be a dance show, but it's so deep.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets really deep.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's so funny that you know, quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>a dance show could have such a big kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like right memory, like part of my memory in my work.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was for me. It was super super

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<v Speaker 2>exciting and so wild that I was part of it

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<v Speaker 2>so wild that I last as long as I did.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, it was such a whirlwind in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. As I said, it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>challenges as far as the logistics go and stuff, But

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<v Speaker 2>when I was there with you and with everybody and

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<v Speaker 2>edited a it was just at the time when I

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<v Speaker 2>did it season five, it was almost light home. You

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<v Speaker 2>were part of the playoffs of like the NFL playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>Like everywhere you went, people knew you, everywhere you when

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<v Speaker 2>people were watching, there was like twenty two million people

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<v Speaker 2>a night watching at least. It was a massive, massive

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<v Speaker 2>show across the country. And I was just riding the

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<v Speaker 2>wave and having a great time and also exhausted and

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<v Speaker 2>also having a tough time. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>it was so many great memories. And I'm still, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>friends with people from that season. And the other thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, I I then from Dancing with the Stars,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of job opportunities came. I started working with

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<v Speaker 2>Good Morning America for six years. I interviewed you a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand times when I was on GMA then and then

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<v Speaker 2>from GMA I went to Entertainment Tonight. I interviewed you

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<v Speaker 2>another thousand times when I was an entertainment Tonight so

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<v Speaker 2>thousand times. So I covered every season after me, So

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<v Speaker 2>I was not only part of season five. I was

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<v Speaker 2>like a regular there week after week, year after year,

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<v Speaker 2>and it became like a real big part of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right, it's like it had a massive impact

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<v Speaker 2>on me. And I just have so many, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fond memories I have. I remember the challenges and the difficulties.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was wild. It was a wild time,

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<v Speaker 2>super wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the challenges and difficulties, say more, well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know. The challenges and difficulties for me

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<v Speaker 2>were the logistics that we talked about. Obviously, just a

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<v Speaker 2>plain simple on paper, I would have said, you can't,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not possible, Like if you gave that schedule to

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<v Speaker 2>me on paper, I was like, I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 2>could do that. But you just kind of do it right.

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<v Speaker 1>And German, you were good. I just watched all your

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<v Speaker 1>dances like you were It was impressed. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is he not just you were great? You weren't

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<v Speaker 1>just good like But you know me, I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>harsh sometimes those but honest, like you know, I'm honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to just bullshit anyone and say, oh

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<v Speaker 1>they're great when they sucked, like you were good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. That makes me feel really good. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I can't watch it and I can't tell

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<v Speaker 2>like that's really.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he had you doing shit that was not that's

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<v Speaker 1>not an amateur routine, like it's not a student and

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<v Speaker 1>professional routine. Like there are certain moments in your pasta

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<v Speaker 1>del Blay, I mean it was hard, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>had to travel and your equilibrium was off most likely

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like it was for me at least, whenever I would

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<v Speaker 1>get off a plane, I'd be like, I can't do camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do this, Like I can't even spin without

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<v Speaker 1>falling over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well thank you. By the way, that like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that means lets me. I appreciate that. It

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<v Speaker 2>really does. Like, you know, I thought I did pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>My first dance was like I looked like I was

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<v Speaker 2>going through the offense of like my basketball, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was a very very step.

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<v Speaker 1>The first dance was the chacha.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was first dance was fun, it was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's that's generous. But I think I got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot better. I mean I did okay. First week but

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<v Speaker 2>then I got a lot better and I was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I had my first rehearsal with Editor.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at it like a little place that we

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<v Speaker 2>rented for the summer in New York, upstate New York,

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom and dad were there and they watched

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<v Speaker 2>my first rehearsal through the window, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>stay away, and they were like this this is not

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<v Speaker 2>good like, this is this is not going to go

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<v Speaker 2>this is not going to be good like and so

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<v Speaker 2>I really I feel like I really improved. And so

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<v Speaker 2>were your.

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<v Speaker 1>Parents very like were they involved? Like they loved the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Were they fans?

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<v Speaker 2>They did? They they loved the show. They watched every week.

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<v Speaker 2>But they you know, the local news came to their

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<v Speaker 2>house and watched them watch me and and you know

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<v Speaker 2>they came into the ballroom. But you know, they were

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<v Speaker 2>living in Florida at the time. But it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was a really yeah, it was. It was a fun time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we said, it was a big show at that time,

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<v Speaker 2>like super, super huge show.

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<v Speaker 1>What were your first impressions of Editor?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I knew her already. I watched the show, so

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<v Speaker 2>I knew Editor, and I mean, you know, very beautiful woman.

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<v Speaker 2>And I literally this is I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 2>editor knows this. I don't know if editor knows this.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually called Dina Katz, who is my dear friend now,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the time was casting director. I know she's the

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<v Speaker 2>next executive producer now. And I called her and I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy that you've offered me the show. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait. I'm in. Just do me a favor, I'll take.

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<v Speaker 2>Please put me with anybody but editor. But because because

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<v Speaker 2>I knew my wife and I, you know, we were

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<v Speaker 2>going through a little bit of a challenge at that time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I she just edited didn't wear a lot of clothes.

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:41.680
<v Speaker 1>No, it was she was. She did keep her ankles warm.

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:45.160
<v Speaker 2>She kept her ankles warm. And that's about it. And

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.239
<v Speaker 2>my god, I love editor to death. And but she

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she knows. I think she probably does.

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I would have told her no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>We became very I think she would find it funny

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I just had her on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>She's great, but she's amazing. I knew that the editor

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.159
<v Speaker 2>was the one that her spidery senses were up with,

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, like just don't and I wonder.

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 1>And a bunch of other wives that were part of

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>this journey, and I.

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Wonder if Dina, like we we gotta ask Dina, We

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 2>got to find out, like if a phone call like that,

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 2>why didn't she literally tells them? Yeah no, But maybe

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 2>that's like, you know, because these shows they want trauma,

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and I get it, they know not like that. No, Okay, well,

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't know.

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I sometimes I wonder, but.

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean we we did. We were the right height.

0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like editors a little bit. I mean from

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.399
<v Speaker 2>six to two. We kind of vibe together. We look good,

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:37.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, as a couple of so.

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>That look great together.

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, like, honestly, who else would you have

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>dance with? I'm five four. I mean I'm not like

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.640
<v Speaker 1>we don't have like huge high difference, but like, honestly,

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>at it ten you. I mean, it would have been

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:49.680
<v Speaker 1>dumb if they didn't pay you with editor just on

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>an aesthetic look, right, like if you're just looking at

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the couples, like it would be the same thing like

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>if editid was with Emmett, that would have made no sense.

0:23:56.359 --> 0:24:00.399
<v Speaker 1>Like it just even though technically shorter, but just you know,

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 1>it is really about the aesthetic ballroom is like it's

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>just right right. Was Editor prepped for her schedule, her

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>upcoming schedule of you guys flying back and forth?

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:16.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, Editor was like unflapped man like, Yeah, I

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know, maybe she wasn't, but she sure seemed like it,

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Like she was just like this is what we're doing.

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't think she was happy about it.

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Never complained. She literally never complained. She was like, you know,

0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 2>just kind of doing her thing. Never seemed phased, always

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 2>sort of focused, chill. She never really kind of got

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:37.120
<v Speaker 2>super hot or super excited. She was just very very

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a really nice, stable, kind of neutral attitude.

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 2>And you know I was always like jacked or like

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 2>crashed or like like bouncing all over you know what

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean. Like Edit, it was just you know, the

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.479
<v Speaker 2>very very stable and kept me kind of like sane

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 2>and grounded and yeah, an amazing, amazing thing. Yeah for sure.

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was you know, I was pounding coffee

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.640
<v Speaker 2>and traveling back and forth, and you know, I don't

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I honestly I don't know how I did it. I

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 2>ate it.

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I had Aiden Turner on the podcast and he straight

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>up said, like straight up. Didn't even say can we

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 1>delete it? He said I. I said, do you have

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>any regrets, you know, during your time on the show,

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, I regret not having sex with it.

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I.

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't. It's not it's not quote. It's not like, you know,

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 1>that's not the official quote. But he definitely said that.

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 1>His mom, his dad and brother was like, oh, you're

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>definitely shagging her. And he goes, no, we're not, like,

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not actually doing that, and like, oh, if you're not,

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 1>you will and he's like, no, no, like and he was,

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's engaged and like and editors with but like,

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:50.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, he goes, that's the one thing I do

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>regret was that, Like, you know, now that I'm about

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to get married, he goes, I should have just done it.

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>He should have done it. I'm like, oh my.

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 2>God, so funny that he would say that. Yeah, I

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 2>forgot that they were partners. Yea, yeah, we were. For

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 2>people at home, we were on the same show again,

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 2>he was on All My Children.

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>As we talked about Yeah, so why is ballroom dancing

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>and dancing with the stars and so intimate? And you know,

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I did recently say on this podcast too. You know,

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>don't be married and do Dancing with the Stars. I mean,

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 1>like though it was a joke, but it's it would

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>make your life a lot easier, right.

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, you asked about my challenges on the show, and

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I was saying the logistics were one of the challenges,

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:32.719
<v Speaker 2>but one of the other big challenges was just that

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 2>it was like Vanessa, uh was a trooper. We've been,

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 2>we've we've sort of recently gone through a bunch of

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 2>stuff and you know, it wasn't great timing. And I was,

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, off in La spending time with this beautiful woman,

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 2>pressed up against her, sweating with her five hours a

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>day rehearsing, and then you know, doing all the press

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 2>and touring and stuff together, and it was it was

0:26:58.000 --> 0:26:59.959
<v Speaker 2>really hard, like it was. And I tried to every

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 2>thing in my power to you know, to make that

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 2>as easy for her as possible. But it's it just

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 2>is what it is. Yeah, So I I mean, you

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 2>can be married and do the show, obviously, but it

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 2>can be depending on the circumstances and total I think

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>if you all lived in La or whatever. But I was,

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, being on a plane and traveling and hotels

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 2>and the whole thing. I think it's just it's just

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:24.880
<v Speaker 2>really hard.

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 1>And then you're with this person seven days of like

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you can't dance without your partner.

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>So no, exactly right, Like you're literally and so why

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 2>is it so intimate? Coming back to your question, I

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 2>think in my experience anyway, I think it's because there's

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 2>a heighten You're in this pressure cooker and people probably

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't realize, but especially back then, man, especially when the

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>whole country was watching, it was like so much pressure.

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl ratings, yes, like.

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Literally super Bowl ratings every.

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Week, twice a week, Yeah, twice a.

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Week, and and you're like you're in the trenches together.

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:07.640
<v Speaker 2>You're obviously physically close and stress like you know, sweating

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>and doing it and working and again and again and

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 2>again and sometimes arguing and sometimes like being there for

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>each other and confiding in each other. And it becomes

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 2>like in a very short period of time, you know

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 2>you're liking it to doing a movie with over like

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 2>let's say a couple month period where you're with a

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>co star and you've got to be with them and

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you've got to be you know, you got to like

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 2>be in love with them when you're shooting, and you've

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>got to like be convinced and have those all those

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 2>little idiosyncrasies in the same way on the dance floor

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>when you're doing the room, the way you're doing whatever

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>dance it is. You've got to have that connection. If

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 2>you don't have I mean, you know better than I know.

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 2>But if you don't have that connection, people can sense it.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 1>It just seems you can't.

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 2>You can't think that. So you become really close and

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>it works for the show, and it works for the

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 2>people that are watching the show, but it doesn't work

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>for the family at home.

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't. And I have to say, two, do

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you believe that? I think there's a little more to

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying if I really dissect it, which I

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>have a lot. Right, the people coming on the celebrities

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>have to be vulnerable, and you have to be vulnerable

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and trust your partner as soon as possible. There's no

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>time to like develop or earn someone's trust, like in

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>order to succeed on Dancing with the Stars. The celebrities

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>coming in not knowing a clue on what looks good,

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 1>what doesn't look good, costumes, the way they need to

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>present themselves, how to ask a woman how to dance

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>because it is old school. Ballroom is old school in

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that sense, but it's the beauty of what the sport is, right,

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and you have to be sensitive to the touch. So

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>in a way, I think it's even getting a little

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>deeper than if you were on a movie set because

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you're in editor's arms actually, like she is guiding you,

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and you have to let your ego down. You just

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>have to any man, any woman. You know, there is

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>no like we're your coach, but we're also your therapis fist,

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and we're also like there for moral support. We're your backbone.

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Right as you sort of were laying out all those

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>different aspects of what happens when you're on the show,

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 2>you're one hundred percent right. You literally have to give

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>yourself over. I think I love the word vulnerable. You

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 2>have to be open and vulnerable and allow like relinquished control,

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, for those guys that really like to be

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>in control of everything. Guess what you're not.

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>And you're going to go home like yeah.

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. It's it's very very, very true. And

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and you're right right off right like out of the gate,

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>you got to be You're just like in this person's

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 2>hands and you're like, oh my gosh, please help.

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Me, and something that you may have never shown your

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>spouse by the way.

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean we, you know, Vanessa and I tried

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 2>to go dancing after Dancing the Stars. You know, I

0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>finish we you know, it was it was a really

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.959
<v Speaker 2>nice idea, and you know, she wanted to ballroom down

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 2>even before Dancing with the Stars, Like there was a

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. So the fact that I ended up balling

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>dancing with like, you know, a complete stranger, it wasn't

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>great either, No, but so we tried after but after that,

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 2>as you know, at the time the show was so popular,

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I'd go to these we'd go to these dance halls

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 2>and there and it was whatever it was where it

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 2>was like a let's say, a Tuesday night tango where

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 2>it was all just social and you learn the tango

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and you're in the circles and the circles kind of turn.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>But I've been dancing with that.

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, like, can you learn my quick step routine?

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Like it was, but also like people just wanted photos

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and they were it was it was like a whole thing,

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and there was nothing intimate between you know Vanessa and I,

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 2>so we stop doing that too, and so we tried.

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because like a lot of people are like, oh,

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>why are you doing the show because my wife has

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to learn unless you learn their routines, like

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Emmett couldn't go salsa dancing socially, like he could do

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>his salsa routine.

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 2>No way, no way. People weddings. The worst thing is

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>that you go and dance with the stars and you

0:31:57.920 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 2>go to a wedding like the next few years after

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 2>everybody's oh my god, you're a dancer, Come dance with

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>me the waltz, and I'm like, I don't want to dance.

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Dance, monkey dance. It's like the.

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Worst, Like I'm like, I don't know what do you

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 2>want me to do.

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>What was the biggest lesson that you learned on the

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>show during your time there, Well.

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>For sure, the biggest lesson was that the seemingly impossible,

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 2>you know what, you can put your mind to what

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>like you honestly if you just kind of go one

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 2>step at a time and conquer this next thing and

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>then conquer the next thing and then conquer the next thing.

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 2>The schedule was so ridiculous for me as we talked

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 2>about that. I I honestly didn't know. I thought I

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>was gonna quit after like week two.

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh really it was.

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I literally edited I talked about I was like,

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can do this. It was

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 2>so crazy, memorizing in one hundred and sixty pages of dialogue,

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>flying back and forth across the country, plus the press,

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 2>plus trying to even considering I was doing that. I

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.959
<v Speaker 2>logged more rehearsal hours than anybody else in that season.

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Of course you did, and I was out.

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 2>In week ten, so I logged more than even like

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 2>the next two weeks, like we rehearsed like crazy. So

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know if I could do it.

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's fair to my family. I

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I can handle it. An editor, if

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I remember, like obviously, editor was like, you got to

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>make this decision. You know, I totally get it. It

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>was a pretty quick it was a pretty quick moment

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 2>of doubt that I was thinking that. But it was

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 2>just super challenging. But I knew so that that opportunity

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 2>if I were to walk away from something like that,

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember anybody ever walking away and I didn't

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 2>want to be there there Evans, Oh, she did, Sarah

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Evans did. It was really a conversation with me and Vanessa,

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 2>and then I mentioned it to edit a probably quickly,

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>but then we just kind of moved on and just

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 2>did one more week. And then we just did one

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 2>more week, and then the fourth week was it was

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 2>the Pasa Doble like you alluded to, and that was

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>good one. That was my big kind of felling out

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>dance super Bain.

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:08.479
<v Speaker 1>What are the politics like behind the show?

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of that that was very confusing

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 2>to me. You know, here's the deal though, Like I'll

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 2>say this from my own side for real, I felt like,

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, there were times where I was underscored, right,

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 2>uh huh, But I would I also sort of chalk

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 2>that up to me thinking that I was better than

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I was, Like you know, like I don't really know

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>if I was underscored. And if you know, it's a

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 2>television show, right, it's it's it's a television show for

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>entertainment purposes. And I'm sure they got to do what

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 2>they got to do. But I feel like a lot

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 2>of us, as competitors, you know, justify certain scores and things,

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 2>and truthfully, there were times where I was very surprised

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>at the scores.

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>You had to be discouraged, though, Cameron, with all the

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 1>hard work, like you said, you were the one rehearsing

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 1>so many hours. The fact that you got seven's for that,

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>that had to be frustrating.

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like once I kind of got going, I

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>was doing pretty well and people that kind of were

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>that lasted for longer than me, certain people in my season,

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:15.919
<v Speaker 2>I was a little surprised.

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Like, who was it? Who was it?

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Who is the top four?

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, the top four were Marie Osmond, oh l e

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>O Castronevez Melby.

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh, well she's good.

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 2>It was awesome. Yeah, absolutely, and Jenny Garth, who was

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 2>also really good.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Your cancer battle you are now no longer a battle,

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>right like your cancer Frea, congratulations.

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you. I've been in remission now like

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 2>no cancer for almost coming up to five years this September.

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Whoa.

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And I've heard so many different stories coming from you know,

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 1>different interviews I've seen of have you written a book yet?

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:58.240
<v Speaker 2>I have not written a book.

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>No helped me to it. Yes, it's so therapeutic. You

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>should first of all just for your for selfish reasons,

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>but also for your fans. You've got a lot of

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:10.280
<v Speaker 1>fans that would love to hear about your story.

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh I've thought about it. I've really thought about it,

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 2>but I would only do it. I mean, I would

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>really want to do it with you know, helping people

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of like motivate them. And what I've learned you are,

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's that's what Instead of just being like,

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, here's another thing about me, you.

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Would tell you this whole look at the different layers

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>we've peeled. And we only talked for fifty minutes, you know,

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it feels like five, But can you talk to me?

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I hate doctors and it's like it's I'm not coming

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>to the I have a mammogram scheduled on Monday and

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I would love to cancel it.

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't do it. Stick with it.

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 1>But for people who are so scared right like and

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>as it's just human nature to be scared of the

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 1>word cancer and all of it, how were you so

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.800
<v Speaker 1>in tune with your body that you knew to do

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and for an amri, like, I've always said that that

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>should be part of a physical but I know it's expensive,

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's like it's crazy.

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good question. And definitely, you know, I

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 2>tell this story that I've been into health and fitness

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 2>for a long time and I and I I'm the

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of guy. I do blood work and I you know,

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 2>test my hormones and I do gut tests, and I

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 2>do these things to try to keep myself you know,

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.399
<v Speaker 2>in these in these ranges. But there were certain things

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>that were coming back that didn't make sense, and you know,

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.280
<v Speaker 2>white blood cell counting one of them, and other markers

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 2>that could potentially be an indicator for cancer. And I

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 2>asked my doctor at the time, I said, listen, you know,

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I know something's off. I can feel that things aren't

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 2>functioning the way I'm doing everything right, but it's not

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 2>not getting the results. And he's like, no, no, no,

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you're fine. Let's just try this for a while. And

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.920
<v Speaker 2>so for another two years I started, you know, I

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 2>kept going at it and you know, eating well and

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 2>doing this and doing that and exercises and using all

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>these you know hacks and and still and then I

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 2>get another blood test and then the blood numbers were worse,

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, all right, yeahbe we do need

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 2>an MRI. Really, and I really kind of insisted upon it,

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 2>and it was just and I thought it was in

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 2>my gut because I had a lot of sort of

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 2>gut issues and I thought it was sort of gut related,

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 2>And it turns out that it wasn't. It was in

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 2>my kidney. It was I had a partial and effract

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 2>to me, which means part of my right kidney was

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:22.720
<v Speaker 2>taken out. So I got really really lucky it hadn't spread,

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 2>they think, and I like to think that because I

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 2>lived such a healthy lifestyle that it didn't have the

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 2>energy to spread, because it'd been growing in me for

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 2>about eight to twelve years.

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Just by the size of it, a long time.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But yeah, that's because it's a slow growing tumor

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:43.160
<v Speaker 2>and usually over that time it would have energy to

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 2>spread into your lungs and in your lymph nodes, and

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 2>then it would be a very very different diagnosis, as

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 2>unfortunately many people know. And so luckily it was contained

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 2>in my kidney and we did a partial effected me

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and I've been doing great ever since. But yeah, to

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 2>answer your question, I just I just knew something was off,

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Like I just really pay attention to my body again.

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I do a lot of the testing, which helps a lot,

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 2>but thank god I did, because it saved my life.

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.879
<v Speaker 1>Do you recommend people just get an MRI? Like as

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.759
<v Speaker 1>soon as I've I even said this to my obgi

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>N a couple of weeks ago, I'm like, can I

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 1>just get an MRI so that we just know, like whatever,

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>just because like it'd be great just to have that

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>peace of mind, you know.

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, here's the deal is that I wouldn't

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>be that guy who wants to run out and get

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.399
<v Speaker 2>an MRI every time, you know, something feels a little off. No, really,

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you can afford it, why not.

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 2>However, and this is not an AD, and I'm just saying,

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 2>there's a company called pre Nouvo p r E and

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 2>u v O if I spilt that right, that does

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 2>full body MRI scans and tests for fifty different types

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 2>of cancer and skeletal issues and other circulatory issues and

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:57.720
<v Speaker 2>respiratory issues that I did recently. It's out of pocket.

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Insurance doesn't cover it. It's it's not cheap, but it's

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 2>not crazy expensive. It's twenty five hundred bucks if it

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, for checking your body for cancer. And I

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 2>just did that so so that's if you want to,

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe save up for that or if you don't.

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Know it's worth it. Though it sounds like it.

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, for me it was worth it. It's it

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 2>really gives you an idea of what's going on in

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.840
<v Speaker 2>your body from that scan. If something comes up, you

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 2>probably want to get a more intensive, detailed scan if

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>something is of concern, but it's a great overall picture

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 2>and something for you to take. Again, this sounds like

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 2>an AD. It's really not.

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, I know a lot of people that

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>do this.

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe other companies too. It has nothing to do

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 2>with that. I just mean that's an option, yeah, or

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:44.879
<v Speaker 2>if you have insurance then you just get an MRI

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 2>in your problem area as well. The problem with the

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 2>regular MRI is it's very it's very localized, right, it's

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 2>not a whole.

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I've never gotten one, but like, yeah, it's I mean,

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm the one that asked questions. So guys, it's not

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 1>an AD, but yeah, I think it for Yeah, it's

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 1>just help. I think if people could save up. I

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>hope one day insurance covers it because it's you know,

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>it's something they should I think cover, especially if needed,

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>but I'm happy you're cancer free. Congratulations again.

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy you're going for your mamogram on Monday. I'm

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 2>going to call you to make sure I would be

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 2>like your share.

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>We don't want to, did you go?

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 2>You're going? I'm going to text you in the morning.

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm lying to you as I'm like just laying

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:30.800
<v Speaker 1>out in the sun. So I'm a Macha girl. Sure, Okay,

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>So mental health quickly, because I'm a mental health advocate

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 1>though we talked a lot about it already, but with

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>just life, right, like the as we evolve and as

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 1>life changes, you either fight it or you don't fight it.

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>You seem to have a really good sense of evolving

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and if one thing doesn't work out as far as

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>like a job goes, for example, like when home and

0:41:56.560 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>family got canceled, like you are. So you're positive, but

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>not in like a fake positive way like I'm happy

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>when like you can feel from the person that they're

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 1>not but like you really move forward. For those people

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>who may feel like they're not as I guess hopeful

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:18.280
<v Speaker 1>about their lives or they want to make big changes,

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>but they're living in fear and decide just to stay

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, with what they're comfortable with. What advice do

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>you have?

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's great that you hit on this

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 2>with you know, so many people the mental health aspects.

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 2>So as far hard as I work on my body,

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and as hard as I work on my health and

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>the MRIs and the whatever, you've got nothing if you

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>don't have your mental health. You've got nothing, if you

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 2>don't have your peace of mind. I work far harder

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>through meditation, practice and using like Budha psychology and philosophies

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and training in strengthening you know, my my inner qualities

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 2>way more than on other stuff like body and stuff.

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 2>So I'm so happy you're asking. So yeah, I really try.

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh it's not try, it's it's like it's it's it's

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>a practice, and it's you know, it's training to to

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 2>work on transforming adversities and challenges into inner growth and

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 2>strength and and new opportunities. And I literally just got

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 2>back an hour before I got I was in Arizona

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 2>with my kids on a series and a meditation series

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>in Arizona on transforming adverse conditions into the spiritual path

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 2>or on inner growth and development. So my kids are

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 2>going off to college in the fall, and I really

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.840
<v Speaker 2>and they're into this and and we were there together

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 2>and it was an incredible week of teachings and meditations.

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 2>And the whole point about it is.

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear more later, Like I'm into all

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 1>this too, So it was amazing. I would love to

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>pick your brain about that.

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a big part of my life and what

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I try to do. But yeah, when things I mean,

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 2>obviously the nature of uh, you know, our life is

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be you know, change and challenges and difficulties

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 2>and good things and not things forever. And the more

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.320
<v Speaker 2>we grasp and need and want things to stay the same,

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 2>it's the more painful will be when they kind of

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:15.439
<v Speaker 2>they're going to change and things evolve and relationships end

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 2>and begin, and jobs come and they go, and and

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 2>you have you know, sickness and then you have health

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.120
<v Speaker 2>and then things are great. So there's all this fox

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:26.759
<v Speaker 2>and change, And for me, mental stability is like the

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 2>most important thing. So practicing things like deep deep acceptance,

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 2>patient acceptance, like really accepting challenges as they come helps

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 2>me be more solution oriented. So it doesn't like it's

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 2>that rejecting mind. I can't believe this is happening. This

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 2>can't be happening. How did this happen? Home and family

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 2>ended with the best ratings it ever had. Doesn't make

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 2>it any sense. I could dwell on that in spiral

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 2>and that doesn't do anybody any good. Or I could

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>just be like, all right, here we go, another challenge,

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 2>another opportunity for growth. Just really accept and from that

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 2>place of acceptance, it's very solution oriented. It widens your

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 2>scope of like what I can do now versus that

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 2>tight mind of rejection and like disbelief. We've got to

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 2>believe it. It's happening, accepted. So acceptance is a big

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.840
<v Speaker 2>is a big beautiful but with a patient mind, like

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 2>a real, true, deep patient acceptance is what I practice.

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you still feel the pain though? Do you still

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>are you open to feeling the sadness and maybe rejection

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>or do you go straight to the solution.

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's a really good point that I

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>think people you know, like me and maybe a lot

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:37.800
<v Speaker 2>of other people would tend to not really spend time

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 2>with the feeling. Like in other words, it's important to

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 2>notice it. All right, here we go. I've got like

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 2>that attachment, I've got that frustration, that disbelief, that fear,

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 2>that anxiety arising in my mind. It's just like a

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.800
<v Speaker 2>cloud arising in the sky. In my mind, I realize

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 2>it comes and it can dissipate. It's there. I notice it,

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:57.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, I spend time with it. I don't dwell

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 2>and let it grow. It's not like I say, sit

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 2>in it and like contemplate it and let it spiral.

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 2>But I know, I like, I definitely spend time being

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 2>aware like anger coming up in my mind, or like

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.359
<v Speaker 2>craving attachment or whatever it is. Like you know, Mike

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 2>had some addictions and things like so I just like

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I notice it, but I also know that it's separate

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 2>from me. It's just like I like, I love the

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 2>analogy of like a cloud arising in the skate in

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 2>my mind, clouds arise in the sky and they dissipate again.

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Let it, let you know, let it be there. But

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 2>then I start to apply the opponent, like acceptance or

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 2>training in love and caring about others, getting my attention

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:33.240
<v Speaker 2>on others.

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>This is great. I have also suffered from addictions. If

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel comfortable enough, this is a safe space. But

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm approaching my six year sober birthday here on Tuesday.

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 2>And congratulations, congratulations.

0:46:56.040 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. And it has been fucking tough, especially the

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years of change in my life, of

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a huge change. How long have you been sober? Would

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.359
<v Speaker 1>you say you were an addict or.

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I I say that. I definitely say

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 2>that I have addictive personality and I definitely was addicted

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 2>to certain behaviors and substances back in the day. It's

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 2>a very gray area for me. Sometimes people get different

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 2>connotations of it. Yeah, for me, For me, it works.

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't, I you know, I don't. I don't care

0:47:29.600 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 2>one way or the other if people can stayed that

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 2>or not. It's a dependency. We're going outside of ourselves

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 2>to try to make us feel better, and we go

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 2>when we get a little blip of relief or a

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 2>little blip of enjoyment, and it goes away, so we

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 2>go back to it for more, and then we go

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 2>back to it for more, and we go back and

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 2>it becomes like this dependency in this habit. So whatever

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 2>you want to call it, you can call it that.

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 2>It became unhealthy. And luckily it wasn't a huge deal

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 2>for me to stop, So I don't know if it

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 2>was really an addiction. I don't mind calling it one,

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 2>but uh yeah it's been it will be uh nineteen

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 2>years in September.

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Who yeah, yeah, like gradual relations.

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Like it was actually the year

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 2>before I did Dancing with the Stars that I stopped

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 2>all mood altering substances and certain certain behaviors that were,

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:25.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, not great.

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure it was tempting though, right like when

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you were in the height of stress to maybe I

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 1>mean for me at least when I'm really stressed, Like

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>of course, the first thing I turned to is how

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>can I numb? And right now it's productivity.

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no exactly, And there's a million things

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 2>where people work out, you know, I you know, for me,

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I you know, it's funny we're talking. So coffee is

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.759
<v Speaker 2>something that I'm I'm definitely addicted to.

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's socially acceptable.

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 2>It's so successful and it's not going to ruin your

0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:58.280
<v Speaker 2>life most.

0:48:58.160 --> 0:49:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Likely, no, reject it, but I don't think that's possible.

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or snorted or something which would do the next level.

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Who knows, but I I but I take breaks, like tomorrow,

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow morning is my first day for hopefully for sure,

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 2>two weeks, maybe longer. We'll be caffeine free for first

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 2>stretch because I I just like to balance my hormones,

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 2>do a reset. Also, just watch, you know, like like

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:27.320
<v Speaker 2>we do in our journey of self growth. I like

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:29.759
<v Speaker 2>to watch my mind watch my cravings. Just be able

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:31.839
<v Speaker 2>to get through these cravings. We're not having to act

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 2>on them. For me, that's really empowering. I like to

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 2>do that. It's not going to be easy the first

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:36.760
<v Speaker 2>couple of days.

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>But have you ever done that?

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is my last espression. I just finished.

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.319
<v Speaker 1>That's so sad. I'm sad for you.

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:45.919
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Yeah, I'm sad.

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean you should just go buck wild and just

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>drink another one like tonight.

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Kidding by eleven pm.

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah okay, Rapid Fire, are you ready?

0:49:57.719 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's hear it.

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.359
<v Speaker 1>You had a lot of fan questions as well. Okay,

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:03.640
<v Speaker 1>who falls in love first? The pro dancer or the celebrity?

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 1>The celebrity is the voting system? Fair?

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I is the voting system fair?

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Rapid Fire? Yeah?

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:17.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, probably not? Probably not? Probably not?

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay, Rapid Fire DWTS Fan Edition, Who would your

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>dream dancing partner be?

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 1>In general? Just anyone, oh, anyone in the world.

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just gonna go with this person that came

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 2>on this as what Ali Monica.

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you guys should do based on gh Yeah,

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 1>you should definitely do that. Okay, if you didn't get

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>edit to which pro would you want? Choose one? Karina Smirnov,

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Cheryl Burke, Julianne Huff, Anna Trebunskaya, Kim Johnson aka Hershebek.

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Those are my choices, correct, Sorry.

0:50:56.000 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Karina, Cheryl, Julianne, Anya, Kim, you sure, yes, don't from

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>your fans. This is from your fans for you for sure? No,

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I think you. No, you don't need to say that

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 1>because you're just talking to me.

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>You're ridiculous. Here's the reasons why. Here's the reasons why.

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I feel like our personalities job. I think we have

0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 2>like very similar energy. We like also take it serious,

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 2>but not too serious totally. We've always had a good

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:26.680
<v Speaker 2>time in it, like for sure, you, I mean, and

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 2>everybody else on that list I love. Don't get me wrong,

0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:31.319
<v Speaker 2>I really do. But if I were to fix somebody,

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I pick you for sure, whether you're doing the interviewing

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 2>or not.

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I'm flattered. Do you like the storyline between

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Nina and Drew.

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I do so. Nina is a character on General Hospital.

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:45.359
<v Speaker 2>For those that don't watch, we hate each other where

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 2>we like, we're absolute like enemies, and we have hate

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>sex and it's been fantastic.

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:52.399
<v Speaker 1>You may hate sex.

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just like we don't like each other,

0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:57.239
<v Speaker 2>and then like whenever we start making out and then

0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:00.160
<v Speaker 2>have sex under the table, and then and now that

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 2>and now and now my character Drew is making out

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 2>with her daughter too, So I'm having sex with the

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:07.280
<v Speaker 2>mom and making out with her daughter.

0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's people hate me, crazy people. It's crazy.

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm here for it. I'm all for it.

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fun.

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Stuff like that never in. Yeah.

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you like the storyline between Drew and Willow though

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you meant Willow?

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love it. I think it's amazing. People around

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the country are sending me hate messages on social media.

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have apples thrown at me in the supermarket,

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:36.720
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's great. I love having a reaction.

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I think Drew and Willow have a really cool dynamic.

0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Did I see it getting romantic? Not really. I love

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 2>that it has I think it's going to cause a

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of drama and.

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 1>People are throwing apples at you.

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I've had I've had some crazy stuff happened.

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Are you serious, Cameron.

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I've had I've had a bus in Columbus Avenue in

0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Manhattan pull across traffic, block traffic. The bus driver got

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 2>out and started yelling at me for my storyline.

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Stop and stop.

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:07.279
<v Speaker 2>That was not all my children. But yeah, I've had

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:10.480
<v Speaker 2>question it. I've had people scream at me the top

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 2>of the lungs in a department store where the whole

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 2>place stops and looks at me, and like, I've had

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.359
<v Speaker 2>like crazy stuff happen. Yeah, and that's happen.

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>This is not real. It's not a reality show.

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's they take they think it's real, and that's

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 2>why we do it, and we love it. It's their

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 2>escape from realities. And I love that they're passionate about

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 2>this storyline. And just know Drew's a good guy. He's

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>just getting kind of caught up in the lust of

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:35.879
<v Speaker 2>it all and the time.

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I would definitely never go to a

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 1>grocery store with you. Okay, how many more years are

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you doing? General Hospital?

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 2>I just recently I think I can announce this. It's

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 2>just like weeks old. I signed for another three years

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 2>on General Hospital.

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Super good.

0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. So who's the voice of the Bridge? Unbeat

0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the Bridge or new game show?

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 2>One of the producers. That's so fantastic. You asked that,

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 2>and I got to remember her name. Oh my god,

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm blanking. She's amazing. She's a great actress and comedian

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:10.879
<v Speaker 2>and one of the producers a game show network. And

0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I think I don't know if they intended, but she

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 2>just started like putting her voice down as the voice

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:17.760
<v Speaker 2>of the Bridge, and then they just kind of hired

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.799
<v Speaker 2>her and later like laid it down in a sound booth,

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:21.200
<v Speaker 2>and she's.

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 1>To get paid for that voice. Do you know me

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:26.359
<v Speaker 1>an Editor's neck of the woods? Like Editor lives there.

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm from the Bay Area.

0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh really? When I was there to do you know?

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean I live, I mean my family lists in

0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the Bay Area. Editor lives in the bar area. Did

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:37.879
<v Speaker 1>you know that?

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that. I was only up in the

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Bay Area just for a little promo shoot, Like I

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:42.759
<v Speaker 2>got it.

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 1>So you don't really you don't shoot the show there?

0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 2>No, we shot it at CBS Radford.

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>The power of the edit in green screens? What a

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:51.720
<v Speaker 1>pop out? Okay?

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Which one of the five kids from Wiliwonka do you

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:56.760
<v Speaker 1>identify with? Most?

0:54:57.080 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Can I have their names?

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how about uh, I've never seen it.

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Probably probably the one who just can't stop eating everything.

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Sure, we'll go with that one.

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Violent Beauregard or whatever her name is.

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:16.320
<v Speaker 1>WHOA Okay, why did all my children in General Hospital

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:19.919
<v Speaker 1>miss the opportunity for Ryan Lavery to be Duke Lavery's son.

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good question. I always wanted that to

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<v Speaker 2>happen back in the day. I think, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>different shows have different writers, right, and the different writers

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<v Speaker 2>create their own characters, and I think, I make up

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<v Speaker 2>this is my own strategy of philosophy. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard for them to allow like a crossover between their

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<v Speaker 2>baby and have them actually be related to somebody else's baby.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like they got to have control and possession

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<v Speaker 2>of their own kind of like interesting. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. I always thought it would be kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The writers have a lot of power actually, now that

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<v Speaker 1>I think about it, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they they have a lot of power.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, a couple more. How did your family react

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<v Speaker 1>to your cancer scare?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was really scary. It was the scariest, toughest

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<v Speaker 2>conversation that I've ever had to have with the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And we we really prepared and I didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to get emotional and scare of them

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<v Speaker 2>anymore than I waited till I had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>information before I even told the kids. It was really

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<v Speaker 2>really hard and even remembering it sort of bringing up

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<v Speaker 2>emotions for me, just be seeing their faces, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, these conversations, you know, as I mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>I think about other families and other people having these

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<v Speaker 2>conversations and far worse, and they happen every day, multiple

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<v Speaker 2>times a day around the world. And it's just gott

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<v Speaker 2>to like send love and support for because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>horrible thing. It's a horrible, horrible, horrible thing to have

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't imagine. I can't imagine. Cameron, You're the best.

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<v Speaker 1>This was so fun. Please tell me about this Hallmark

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas movie that you've just finished shooting with Candace Cameron.

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<v Speaker 2>Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, we haven't started shooting. We

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<v Speaker 2>start shooting at the end of August. We're busy August nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to keep a you know show, we're more

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<v Speaker 2>hustling out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you're like the Lisa Renna but male version.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hus split. Like I just this is admirable, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I seriously, it is really thank you crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I really, I mean, I've been really lucky. The hosting

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<v Speaker 2>side of things and the acting side of things has

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<v Speaker 2>kept me very busy through the years. And yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got another a great movie with great American family coming

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<v Speaker 2>up with Candace. She and I have known each other

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<v Speaker 2>a long time and we've talked about doing a movie

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<v Speaker 2>together for Oh you've never done one, never done one together,

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll be our first and that's it'll be great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it sort of like merges two of people that

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<v Speaker 2>love these Christmas movies, the favorite concepts, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>weddings and Christmas. And it's really fun script. Candas has

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<v Speaker 2>got a really fun character and so do I and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't wait for people to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Well, and then when does your game show or

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<v Speaker 1>it has premiered already, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The game shows premiered on Game Show Network. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>through the whole summer week nights at eight or not.

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<v Speaker 1>You love it?

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love that show. I love I

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<v Speaker 2>love being a game show host. It's so me, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean from what you know of me, Like I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm just bammed. It's me get It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>one team pitted against the other. Now it's called beat

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<v Speaker 2>the Bridge, everybody. I hope you check it out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just one team trying to accumulate as much money as

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<v Speaker 2>they can. So them all in with this team, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just cheering them on. It's fun. It's the questions are

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:39.520
<v Speaker 2>challenging but also relatable so people at home can play along.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just a perfect fit for me. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>been really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably also maybe refreshing out to have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about like your fellow celebrity friends too, like

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<v Speaker 1>on et or something, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's this is it seems to be definitely a fit

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to like interview you and ask you

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<v Speaker 2>about your divorce or about your personal issues.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, like I have even me asking about

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<v Speaker 1>your life, Like it's just so hard because like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not normal. This is not normal, like we would be

0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:18.040
<v Speaker 1>catching up like friends, but instead I'm putting you on

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<v Speaker 1>blast like hello, listen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you do a great job, by the way, it

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<v Speaker 2>really is. It's part of the game. It's part of

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<v Speaker 2>the game. It's up to us what we want to

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<v Speaker 2>say and don't say.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you. Thank you, great to see you, good

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<v Speaker 1>to see you, my friend, Thank you, bye bye. Thanks

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