WEBVTT - Kent Platte and the Relative Athletic Score

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<v Speaker 1>Practice traffic drowing huxtowner. What a win for this Miami

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins team. Wow, What is up Dolphins? And welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the Drivetime Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins official podcast

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<v Speaker 1>network covering your Miami Dolphins. I am your host, Travis Wingfield,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am here to bring you your daily dose

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<v Speaker 1>of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show, the combine

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<v Speaker 1>has come and gone, but with four team picks. Before

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<v Speaker 1>the compensatory picks are handed out later this month, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be draft season each of these next seven

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<v Speaker 1>weeks for your Miami Dolphins. Were welcoming in the creator

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<v Speaker 1>of the Relative Athletics Scorecard to talk about the freak

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<v Speaker 1>athletic profiles of these NFL hopefuls. Plus we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some current Dolphins players and there are a s scorecards

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<v Speaker 1>from their respective draft years and some sound from Cal

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<v Speaker 1>defensive back Ashton Davis on new Dolphins defensive backs coach

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<v Speaker 1>Jerald Alexander. All of that and more on this Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>marks the third edition of the Drivetime Podcast and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled to be joined here today on the Drivetime Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Miami Dolphins podcast network by the creator

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<v Speaker 1>of the Relative Athletics Scorecard. You can find him on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter at math bomb. He is Kent Platt Kent. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for doing this, Man, appreciate it. Man, thanks for having me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I really love your work. It's it's a pretty cool

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<v Speaker 1>way to track the overall cumulative score of what happens

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<v Speaker 1>on the field at the combine. And so first I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you one how long you've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this for and also walk us through what the Relative

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<v Speaker 1>Athletics Scorecard the r A S what is that and

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<v Speaker 1>how did you ultimately develop the final product. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the eighth year that I've been doing this. I

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<v Speaker 1>started doing REZ in earnest in two thousand and thirteen. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of players were coming out that year that

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<v Speaker 1>that had quote end quote question marks where they had

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<v Speaker 1>talked about one specific drill and it's the forty it's

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<v Speaker 1>always the forty. UM where they didn't do that well

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<v Speaker 1>in the forty. And I started notice thing that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys were measuring really well in other

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<v Speaker 1>drills and they were being called a poor athlete. And

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like that was fair. Um, So I

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<v Speaker 1>started developing a system that would be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more fan friendly. A little bit more understandable, easy to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>So I centered on a zero to ten scale because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can understand that zero is bad, ten is good.

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<v Speaker 1>UM and and you know, it just built a scale

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<v Speaker 1>from there that that would measure player athleticism. I've refined

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<v Speaker 1>it every year. The My current system has been in

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<v Speaker 1>place since two thousand seventeen, and I don't see any

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<v Speaker 1>reason to be changing it anytime soon. I'll change the databases,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the actual data. UM. It looks at each

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<v Speaker 1>individual metric. It looks at height and weight for size, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks at the forty yard dash, twenty and ten

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<v Speaker 1>yard splits for speed. It looks for at the bench

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<v Speaker 1>press for strength, vertical and broad jump for explosion, show

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<v Speaker 1>and cone for agility UM. And then it just compares

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<v Speaker 1>the percentage the percenta out for those players all the

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<v Speaker 1>way back to seven, so it includes combine and pro

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<v Speaker 1>day UM, and it just gives you a number based

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<v Speaker 1>on that, and then it takes all of those numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>gets an a bridge, and then it compares the average

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<v Speaker 1>for every player and gets a final score that's also

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<v Speaker 1>a zero to tend score, So you can look at

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<v Speaker 1>a player and say, okay, he's about a seven that's

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<v Speaker 1>above average, is a pretty good athlete. Um, it just

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<v Speaker 1>gives you a decent idea without having to dig through

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<v Speaker 1>all the numbers to understand how athletic a person is. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>once you start looking at that data, you can dig

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit further and find out, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>more granular information, but just having that that upfront picture

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<v Speaker 1>is always helpful to have. Yeah, so when you see

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<v Speaker 1>like a you know, a player jumps a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>on the broad jump and maybe you don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to correctly apply that, you can just look here at

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<v Speaker 1>Kent's rass score and it gives you a general consensus

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<v Speaker 1>about where that player stacks up against other players in

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<v Speaker 1>the class in the athletic testing. And for me on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, in my work in general, can I love

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<v Speaker 1>the film stuff, and so to get the athletic profiles

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<v Speaker 1>paired with that, I think it's a great cumulative measure

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<v Speaker 1>of what a player looks like heading into the draft

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe where their draft stock might check in that

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<v Speaker 1>come draft day. So before we get into the athlet

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<v Speaker 1>like Marvel's here, I do want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>athletic freaks that are already in Miami. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>do that, even I want to ask you, because the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins have fourteen draft picks this year, if you've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for eight year, about where does this class

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<v Speaker 1>check in terms of their overall RAS score sheets. This

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<v Speaker 1>class has been fantastic. It's as you mentioned, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this for eight years. It's been so much fun

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<v Speaker 1>this year getting ready for the draft crep and getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready for the combine. Um, I've still got the entire

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<v Speaker 1>pro day circuit to work, but the combine was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so much fun. You always come in with

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<v Speaker 1>different storylines with players that that need to do well

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<v Speaker 1>in a certain drill. They have to show that they're fast,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to show that they're explosive. Most of those

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<v Speaker 1>players did those things in this combine. All of those

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<v Speaker 1>storylines that you get every year, I can't remember a

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<v Speaker 1>time in the eight years I've been doing this where

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<v Speaker 1>so many players have hit those benchmarks and accomplished what

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<v Speaker 1>they needed to do coming into the combine. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. I'm really excited for this draft class.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's go ahead and go back to the most

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<v Speaker 1>recent draft here in reference the Miami Dolphins players and

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<v Speaker 1>their rast scores over the last several years. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to start first with last year's first round draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>and Christian Wilkins. And if you watch him in any setting,

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell he's an athlete. The guy that did

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<v Speaker 1>the splits after Clemson won the National Championship game. Clearly

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<v Speaker 1>a man that size bending that way is not natural.

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<v Speaker 1>But where does Christian Wilkins come in on the RASH

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<v Speaker 1>score sheet? His combined workout from the twenty nineteen NFL combine,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Wilkins came in with an eight point five five

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten, which is really good. Anything over eight

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<v Speaker 1>is considered elite. It's actually color coded on the cards,

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<v Speaker 1>so anything anything over eight is in green, anything below

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<v Speaker 1>five is in red, everything else is yellow. So he

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<v Speaker 1>had an eight point five five, which is a really

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<v Speaker 1>good score. It's funny because it's one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>types of cards, where where none of his other metrics

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<v Speaker 1>were in that elite range, but he still had an

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<v Speaker 1>elite score. Um, it just shows you that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any real athletic flaws. There aren't really really any

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<v Speaker 1>holes to who he is as an athlete, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love seeing guys like though. It's just just great overall

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<v Speaker 1>athletes like that, and going back one year prior to that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is the guy, in my opinion, that

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<v Speaker 1>probably popped on your score sheet more than anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Tight end Mike get Sicky coming out in that NFL draft,

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball superstar back in high school. We saw his

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<v Speaker 1>video highlights on the Miami Dolphins social account where did

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<v Speaker 1>Mike A. Sicky check in with his workouts at the

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<v Speaker 1>combine and eighteen Mica Sicky checked in with a nine

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<v Speaker 1>point nine six out of ten. He was the I

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<v Speaker 1>think the third most athletic tight end in my entire

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<v Speaker 1>database since seven, which is you know, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good, right, that's the year I was born, so hey,

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<v Speaker 1>good company. He jumped out of the gym with at

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<v Speaker 1>vertical he had a six point seven six cone time,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just insane for a two forty seven pound guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course he ran that four point five

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<v Speaker 1>four which teams love. Uh. It's it's an elite athletic

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<v Speaker 1>pro profile. It's hard to find tight ends or any

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<v Speaker 1>position that that's z athletic um. The idea with picking

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like that is getting that upside as early

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<v Speaker 1>as you can. Tight ends is one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>athletically demanding positions in the NFL. So getting one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best athletes that's ever come out of the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go wrong there. So I skipped over something

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to say you in response to the Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Wilkins rast score and kind of how we can apply

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<v Speaker 1>these score sheets of their tape and what it produces

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<v Speaker 1>on the field on Sundays. You mentioned that Wilkins. You

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<v Speaker 1>said a great quote there, Kent that he really doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any athletic flaws, and I think that shows up

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<v Speaker 1>on Sundays because he plays multiple positions across the defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>He can penetrate as a pass brusher, he can hold

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<v Speaker 1>the point against the running game, So that checks out

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<v Speaker 1>in that way, and then Mike get SICKI attacking the

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<v Speaker 1>football down on the red zone. The leaping ability, the

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<v Speaker 1>speed to get on top of linebackers, the quick movement

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of routes to transition and get off

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<v Speaker 1>the top of that route and get off the coverage

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<v Speaker 1>and create separation that way. So both of those things translate.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead now to a linebacker from Ohio State

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<v Speaker 1>in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft checked that Jerome Baker,

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<v Speaker 1>the linebacker. I have a feeling that he too, is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty high on your score sheet. Oh absolutely. Jerome Baker

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<v Speaker 1>came in with a nine point two six out of ten,

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<v Speaker 1>which is again and in that elite range. Um. He

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<v Speaker 1>was undersized when he measured in, but his his forty

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<v Speaker 1>yard dash was fantastic at four point five three. He

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<v Speaker 1>had elite UH explosion drills, he had a lead, agility, drills.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything you want from an athlete Jerome Baker had. And

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get a guy like that on the

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<v Speaker 1>field because you've got guys like Ghaziki out there, those

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<v Speaker 1>super super athletic tight ends. You gotta have somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>can run with him in coverage. So picking somebody that's

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<v Speaker 1>got that speed, that explosive explosiveness and that agility, that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you want a out of a linebacker. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what we got with Jerome Baker last season.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically never left the field as long as he was

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<v Speaker 1>healthy and ready and active to play. And you see that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned, with the ability to run down the pipe,

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<v Speaker 1>to run twenty forty yards downfield with a tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>but also to chase sideline to sideline in the running game,

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<v Speaker 1>sniff out screens, that type of stuff. So again, this

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<v Speaker 1>all matches up for Jerome Baker as well, the next

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<v Speaker 1>player on my list. Here. We're going back to slot cornerback,

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<v Speaker 1>and we heard Dion Sanders and the NFL network crew

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about the importance of the slot position,

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<v Speaker 1>and McCain transitioned this year back to safety, playing a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of both, maybe going forward safety and slot cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what the Dolphins decided to do there. But

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby McCain, as well as the other guys we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about previously, could he check out pretty well? Bob mc

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<v Speaker 1>cane an elite score. He had an eight point four

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<v Speaker 1>year out of ten. But what was really interesting with

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<v Speaker 1>him is that he ran a three point eight to

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<v Speaker 1>shuttle time, which is just insane from any player that's

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine point seventh percentile for cornerback seven. That's insane

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<v Speaker 1>to have have that level of a Julie that that

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<v Speaker 1>start and stop ability for a cornerback is what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see when you have somebody that can cover

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<v Speaker 1>the slot those shift year receivers. You want somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>can plant their foot and change direction quickly. So having

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that can do that and put up a

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<v Speaker 1>score like that, that's perfect. Yeah, and you definitely, like

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned covering a guy in the slot. All these quick,

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<v Speaker 1>agile guys that can win in a phone booth like

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<v Speaker 1>a Julian Edelman in New England for instance, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have that quick twitch ability to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>win in the slot from a defensive perspective. Let's stay

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<v Speaker 1>in that draft class. And a guy that really broke

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<v Speaker 1>onto the scene this year with twelve receiving yards nine

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns out of Louisville, Davante Parker. Where does he come

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<v Speaker 1>in on the rast score sheet? DeVante Barker came out

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<v Speaker 1>of the nine point seven five out of ten when

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<v Speaker 1>he came out of Louisville. Uh, he came in with

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<v Speaker 1>of no another guy with no athletic flaws. Um he did.

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<v Speaker 1>He came in with good size, He came in with

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<v Speaker 1>great speed, great explosiveness. He didn't test in the agility drills,

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<v Speaker 1>but every other measurement that he had was either above

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<v Speaker 1>average were good. I think his lowest percentile was still

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three percentile. It was just one of his splits.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was fantastic for him. He has great get off. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can see it right on tape. His

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<v Speaker 1>explosiveness off the line, his his leaping ability, and his

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<v Speaker 1>ability to separate at the top of his routes. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what makes him win in the NFL. He does a

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<v Speaker 1>great job of that. Yeah, I don't think anybody was

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<v Speaker 1>better at contested catches this year across the NFL than

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Parker. Then we get into Week seventeen against Defon Gilmour,

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<v Speaker 1>who wins the Defensive Player of the Year award, and

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<v Speaker 1>Parker goes off for something like seven catches for a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty yards on the best cornerback in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>So very impressive work there. Let's go ahead and get

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<v Speaker 1>back now into this year's combine and start here with

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks and just go position by position and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the things that stood out to you

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the RAS score sheet. With the quarterbacks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Herbert was one of the one of the top

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<v Speaker 1>three quarterbacks for most people in this draft, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody was expecting to have the type of

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<v Speaker 1>athletics showing that he had. We all know that he

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<v Speaker 1>can throw, but Justin Herbert ended up coming out with

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<v Speaker 1>a nine point six nine r s, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>common for a player that's six six. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>six six guy shouldn't be able to run of four

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<v Speaker 1>six eight, He shouldn't have those. You'd hope he has

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<v Speaker 1>that elite hops. He's a tall guy, played basketball probably,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know he had great agility or great explosiveness scores,

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<v Speaker 1>he had great speed. He came out with the highest

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<v Speaker 1>score in the class. I don't think anybody really expected that.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts another guy that a lot of people like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very athletic in Alabama and Oklahoma. He came up

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<v Speaker 1>with a nine point six, just behind Herbert. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good score. You really like to see stuff like that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The other guy was Jordan's Love out of Utah State,

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<v Speaker 1>another guy that he uses that athleticism on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the field. He has a big arm, he can run,

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<v Speaker 1>he can move. He came out with that eight point

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<v Speaker 1>five eight. So the guys that did measure at the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Joe Burrow and to a tong of Bloa didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But of the guys that did, they exceeded expectations. They

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<v Speaker 1>did really well at the combine. It almost feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a a statement for the modern times of Football's players

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<v Speaker 1>are just getting faster and stronger every single year. It's

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<v Speaker 1>fun to watch. And I thought this year we might

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<v Speaker 1>have a receiver break John Ross's record, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>hoping he would because I think that Henry Ruggs will

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<v Speaker 1>be a really good player at the next level. I

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<v Speaker 1>assume that he kicks off your receiver measurements here. Henry Ruggs,

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<v Speaker 1>his overall score was still in the elite range, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's mostly just that speed, right, He's he's all speed um,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fine. Uh. He came in with elite explosive

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<v Speaker 1>in scores. He had a forty two in vertical, which

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<v Speaker 1>at five eleven you don't you don't usually see guys

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<v Speaker 1>that can jump that well. Uh, he came one inch

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<v Speaker 1>shy of getting eleven foot broad, had ten eleven on

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<v Speaker 1>his broad and of course you mentioned that four point

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<v Speaker 1>to seven. You know, the only reason he didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a higher score is because size is factored in and

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<v Speaker 1>he is five eleven and eight pounds, So he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up getting a nine point six six, which that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fifth in the class. To tell you how athletic

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<v Speaker 1>this this draft classes that's fifth. Uh. The number one

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<v Speaker 1>guy was Chase Claypool out of Notre Dame. He came

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<v Speaker 1>very close to Ake and Calvin Johnson's RAZ record. Calvin

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson currently holds the ten the ten spot for RAZ

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<v Speaker 1>for REZ. If you're at ten, that's the most athletic,

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<v Speaker 1>the highest average athleticism score of any player ever. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Cleypool tied it at ten. Because I have so

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<v Speaker 1>many receivers, there's two guys at the top. Because is

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<v Speaker 1>just behind Calvin Johnson. Just to give you the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of the type of athlete, he is six four two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight runt of four four two and jumped out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gym. An extremely talented athlete. UM. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Jefferson was at People were worried about being athletic,

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<v Speaker 1>and he came in second in the class at a

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<v Speaker 1>nine point eight four r as great speed, great explosiveness,

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<v Speaker 1>good size. You know, as I said, everybody's exceeding expectations

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<v Speaker 1>this year. It was a lot of fun to watch

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<v Speaker 1>those guys. Yeah, you pair Jefferson's athletic ability with the

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<v Speaker 1>fact to me that he is just one of those

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<v Speaker 1>dudes like he goes out there, he can run routes,

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<v Speaker 1>he competes, plays with hair on fire. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun to watch him play. How about the tailbacks this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that maybe some of the times weren't what

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<v Speaker 1>people expected. We saw Jonathan Taylor have the great forty time,

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<v Speaker 1>But what did you get out of the running backs

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<v Speaker 1>of this year's combine. Yeah, it was a little unfortunate

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<v Speaker 1>that Jonathan Taylor only ran a four point three nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I really expect him to do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>better than that. He's two and twenty six pounds, but

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't realize that. They see that Wisconsin uniform and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they think that he's just that big, bruising guy

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<v Speaker 1>they've been been churning out year after year. But Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor is a burner. He can fly, He's a big

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<v Speaker 1>dude that can move. He came in with a nine

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<v Speaker 1>point five seven r e s. He didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>scores below average except his his bench was barely below average.

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<v Speaker 1>But really great athlete um uh Levante Bellamy was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that everybody expected to to contend with that that

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<v Speaker 1>sub four three um he ended up getting injured on

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<v Speaker 1>his forty so I wasn't able to do so. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Cam Acres from Florida State. I'm sure you're

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with him. He came with a nine point three one.

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<v Speaker 1>Raz that that's a guy that people were saying was

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<v Speaker 1>going to have some trouble at the combine, and he

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<v Speaker 1>blew blue expectations out of the water. He ran really well,

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<v Speaker 1>he jumped really well. You know he again, guys are

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<v Speaker 1>just beating expectations this year. It's a lot of fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would echo the sentiments on Jefferson with Cam Maker

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<v Speaker 1>in the competitiveness and just the fire that he plays with,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun to watch on Saturdays. How about

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends? We talked about Mike Asiki. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling nobody came close to him in that regard. But

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<v Speaker 1>who did check in out of the tight end class?

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<v Speaker 1>At the top of your score sheets? We only had

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<v Speaker 1>three guys come in with a RAS over eight. We

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<v Speaker 1>usually see a little bit more than that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest was like six a few years ago. But

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<v Speaker 1>the guy at the top of the charts was Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>Keene from Virginia Tech came in with a nine point

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<v Speaker 1>three three. Um, he's not gonna be your your Day

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<v Speaker 1>one guy. I'm not sure that we have a Day

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<v Speaker 1>one tight end. Um. If we did, though, it would

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<v Speaker 1>either be Cold Comet out of Notre Dame or Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Troutman out of Dayton. And those are the next two

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<v Speaker 1>guys with a nine point one seven and eight point

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<v Speaker 1>two four. Uh. They both measured really well. Adam Troutman.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually did an entire threat on him on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>But Adam Troutman came with a six point seven eight

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<v Speaker 1>three cone drill. I mentioned before that those those agility drills,

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<v Speaker 1>those are really hard to do well in. He came

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<v Speaker 1>with a six point sevent eight at two d and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five pounds. That's ridiculous. A guy like that that

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<v Speaker 1>can move that well in space. So I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 1>NFL teams will find a way to use him. He

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<v Speaker 1>is coming out of Dayton. I don't know how the

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<v Speaker 1>small school is tough works, but um, a great athletic profile,

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<v Speaker 1>A guy that can move in space, guy that can catch,

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<v Speaker 1>guy that can block. That's what you want from your

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends. Yeah, I'm surprised that that he didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>basketball Dayton, concerning the fact that it is a basketball

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<v Speaker 1>school and the athletic profile certainly does check out on

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<v Speaker 1>the hardwood. Let's move now to the offensive line, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the meat portions of this clash. You and

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke a fair about how good the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>class is heading into and Tristan Worth's blewed up. I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that he starts off the top of your scorecards here.

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan Worse is one of the top tackles in this class,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's considered one of the best athletes in this class,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's no surprise he had a nine point seven

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<v Speaker 1>four out of ten. He actually had two of the

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<v Speaker 1>best explosion drills in the entire combined history at a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six point five inch vert um. I have pro

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<v Speaker 1>days in my database, so it's not the best in

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<v Speaker 1>my database, but for a tackle at the combine, that's

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<v Speaker 1>his best, the best you can get elite explosion ran

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<v Speaker 1>a four eight five at three twenty pounds. That's insane,

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<v Speaker 1>but it speaks to the strength of this class that

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<v Speaker 1>that's only the third highest score in this class. McKay

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<v Speaker 1>Beckton got a big bump because he's so huge um

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<v Speaker 1>and he ran a five one, which is an elite

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<v Speaker 1>score four a tackle, and he did that at three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty pounds, that's nuts. Um I got that.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't really hear a lot about. He was starting

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<v Speaker 1>to get a little a little buzz Right before the

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<v Speaker 1>combine was Ezra Cleveland at a Boise State. Um I

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<v Speaker 1>I was wise to him because people have been saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta watch him, he's gonna ow it up. Um

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect this kind of a performance. He put

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<v Speaker 1>up a nine point nine four out of ten. Every

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<v Speaker 1>single metric that he did, with the exception of size,

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<v Speaker 1>was in elite range, overent out. That's nuts. To have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's three eleven pounds that can be elite

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<v Speaker 1>in every way, elite agility, elite explosion, elite strength, all

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<v Speaker 1>of those. That's awesome. And it's great that we finally

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<v Speaker 1>do have these athletic profiles on the offensive lineman, because

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<v Speaker 1>the guys they have to block on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball, the defensive lineman. It is. It's become

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<v Speaker 1>just flat out ridiculous how athletic these guys are. And

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<v Speaker 1>so let's go ahead and talk about those guys. The

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<v Speaker 1>defensive lineman. In your RAS score sheets, the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>had the highest rasp for a defensive end was Jabari's

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<v Speaker 1>Aniga from Florida UM. He came up with a nine

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<v Speaker 1>point seven four. He had some early hype and started

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<v Speaker 1>to wane a little bit as the season went, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's he's a Florida defensive lineman who can run a

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<v Speaker 1>four six four two and sixty four pounds. He has

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<v Speaker 1>great explosion drills, he put up a good bench. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just the kind of guy that you want to plug

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<v Speaker 1>and play on defensive end to rush the passer. We

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<v Speaker 1>also had James Mimith Williams out of North Carolina State.

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<v Speaker 1>He came with a nine point zero one. Another guy,

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<v Speaker 1>great speed and night rand and nine four six flat

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<v Speaker 1>at two d and six pounds. Big dude, explosive and fast.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to you want to have guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>either really strong and really powerful or really fast. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you get an explosive guy who's also big and

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<v Speaker 1>can run, that's really valuable for a pass rush because

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<v Speaker 1>you can you can power past the bigger tackles and

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<v Speaker 1>you can get around the more athletic guys on the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>And the next possession group has the guy that can

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<v Speaker 1>do everything in terms of size, speed and power. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and let you introduce the top linebacker, Isaiah Simmons. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what a combine performance. I didn't entire threat and Isaiah Simmons.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually measured out as a ten point oh, which

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<v Speaker 1>again is the highest score that you can get for

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<v Speaker 1>five different positions. That's nuts, U and one of him

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<v Speaker 1>was cornerback. He would be he would be the most

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<v Speaker 1>athletic cornerback in my database if if he had come

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<v Speaker 1>out as a cornerback and not a linebacker. That's nuts.

0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 1>You don't usually have guys that come in at two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty eight pound owns and run a four

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<v Speaker 1>three nine. We talked about Jonathan Taylor running back here

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<v Speaker 1>that that was what fifteen sixteen pounds lighter than what

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<v Speaker 1>what Isaiah Simmons did. He didn't even run his second forty.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, do you want to run a second one?

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, I'm good, I don't need to. He

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<v Speaker 1>just missed out on a forty inch verty thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>inch vertical and broad jumped eleven feet, which is again

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<v Speaker 1>just insane numbers. This doesn't make sense. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy that you talk about is being created

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<v Speaker 1>in a lab because the type of that type of

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<v Speaker 1>athleticism doesn't make sense for a normal person. Isaiah Simmons

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<v Speaker 1>is a fast guy. He can cover, he can rush

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<v Speaker 1>the passer, and he can blitz. He's really good at

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<v Speaker 1>setting the edge. There's there's almost nothing the guy can't do.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays linebacker and free safety and nickel cornerback and

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<v Speaker 1>strong safety and moves all over the place. He's nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the South Carolina game where he

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<v Speaker 1>comes off the edge one play, sets the edge and

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<v Speaker 1>cuts down the ball carrier for a TfL. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>blitzes gets a sack, and then on third and long

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<v Speaker 1>he runs forty yards down the field and stays in

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<v Speaker 1>phase and coverage. It's it's so fun to watch that

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<v Speaker 1>guy play football. And speaking of that coverage, we end

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<v Speaker 1>here with the defensive backs. You said that maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the best defensive back class in terms of athletic

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<v Speaker 1>testing compared to other classes, But who did shine at

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<v Speaker 1>dB C J Henderson from Florida was a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of athletic potential. Um and this is

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<v Speaker 1>another Florida guy, so I'm sure you're you're you're very

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with him. He came in with a ten point. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's another position where we have two guys at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to check the average just to see if

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<v Speaker 1>he's the number one of the number two. But marsha

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<v Speaker 1>On Lattimore is the guy that was right at the top. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Darrell Reevas type of athleticism. And C. J. Henderson

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<v Speaker 1>showed that at the combine. Jeff Akuta, out of a

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<v Speaker 1>house state, came with a nine point five six out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten. He jumped out of the gym, he ran

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<v Speaker 1>a really good forty, just what you wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He shut it down after that he had he had

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<v Speaker 1>banged his head or something. But um, fantastic athleticism scores. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a lot of really talented guys that that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe need a little bit more refinement. Once they get

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<v Speaker 1>into the NFL, they get a good enough coach, they

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<v Speaker 1>can start coaching that stuff out of him. But the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are technically silid, they've already got that athletic talent.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have anybody that came out and put up

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<v Speaker 1>a put up a stinker in this one. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they are dubbed the underwear Olympics, and no one

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<v Speaker 1>covers them better than you. Can we really appreciate your

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<v Speaker 1>time here on the Drivetime podcast. You can find him

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. He's at math bomb. He writes for Pride

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<v Speaker 1>of Detroit, Kent, we appreciate it. Thanks for having me

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. And there he goes. And one player I

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<v Speaker 1>was hoping to hear about from Kent was Cal's Ashton Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>Because here's a question that I wanted to play for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, or a response to a question I should

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<v Speaker 1>say on yesterday's Defensive Back audio, because he had some

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<v Speaker 1>great things to say about new Dolphins defensive backs coach

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<v Speaker 1>Gerald Alexander. And we'll go ahead and just play it

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<v Speaker 1>for you here at the answer, because you can't really

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<v Speaker 1>hear the reporter's question. But the question was, what can

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<v Speaker 1>you say about Gerald Alexander's coaching style and what he

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<v Speaker 1>meant to you at CAW. I don't know he's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he's got, all kinds of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's just he's very german like means and to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best that he can be with um U

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<v Speaker 1>t in theonas and just trying to get nuggets from

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who can get better, and I can. I can

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<v Speaker 1>definite relate to that as as a player. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>us trying to prove all the time, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>refreshing to have a coach that's doing the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>and not just setting their systems, setting their ways. And

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<v Speaker 1>that last little nugget there about adaptability and not being

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<v Speaker 1>set in their system or setting their ways great to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically the theme of Brian Flores's coaching staff hires this offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>finding guys who were versatile, finding guys who are hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>and finding guys with a like minded mentality of coach

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<v Speaker 1>Flora's who was a guy that came up from the

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<v Speaker 1>very bottom. We heard about Jim Naggy talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday in the interview I had with him about

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<v Speaker 1>how Flora's was a scouting assistant in New England and

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<v Speaker 1>just worked his way up into a positional coach, into

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator and now for us, luckily the head coach

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<v Speaker 1>of the Miami Dolphins. Alright, that is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>my time for this edition of the Drive Time podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have Jordan Reed of the Draft Network on

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow show. You don't want to miss that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the very best in the business. He was out there

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<v Speaker 1>in Indianapolis on the field for the workouts, and everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>I went, I saw that guy just working and grinding.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't wait to get his opinion on this

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