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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 2: Edith Steak is.

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Speaker 1: That woo woom and them and Tie Dan Urvenstein. Bowl

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Speaker 1: season is now well underway. We've got some big games

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Speaker 1: that we need to discuss on today's episode, Sir, how

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Speaker 3: It's terrific TI this.

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Speaker 2: We're really getting into the nitty gritty of bull season here,

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Speaker 2: tys some big matchups. You know, there are always gonna

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Speaker 2: be opt outs, there's always gonna be coaching moves, there's

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Speaker 2: always gonna be guys in the portal. But I don't

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Speaker 2: know how you get around holiday time and not love

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Speaker 2: seeing some of the big helmets, some of these big

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Speaker 2: matchups and these big stadiums. It's still like it's the

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Speaker 2: reason for the season. Tie, It's the holiday time and

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're gonna preview the Cotton, the Peach,

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Speaker 1: the Orange, and the Fiesta Bowl. Well, we're also going

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Speaker 1: to be picking a few other Bowl games out of

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Speaker 1: the hat, just calling out some nuggets that are of

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Speaker 1: interest to us. We're also going to put you on

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Speaker 1: alert for some dudes over the coming week or so.

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Speaker 1: We call it dood alert. You may have heard about

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Speaker 1: think we'll go a long way here for those for

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Speaker 1: bawlers who are listening at home. We appreciate all the

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Speaker 2: Dan rubistein, Yeah, I cannot stress enough how hard I've

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Speaker 2: looked at both individual Bowl game stories and also I

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Speaker 2: mean New Year six playoff and not and have come

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Speaker 2: up so dry in terms of finding the Bowl gifts

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Speaker 2: and the different things available.

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Speaker 1: In this they don't list them anymore.

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Speaker 2: So somebody saw, well what the Oklahoma State gift suite included,

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Speaker 2: like air fryers and like there was a bunch of

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Speaker 2: So the gift suites are alive and well, but I'm

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Speaker 2: really disappointed. We need somebody to leak us a master list.

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Speaker 2: We need the good people at Ogio to leak us

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Speaker 2: the master gift suite and gift bag list from all

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Speaker 2: these Bowl games because it's just not the same the Sports.

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Speaker 1: Business Journal used to do. And I think you can

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Speaker 1: still find it if you were in a Google on it.

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Speaker 1: They used to do the full breakdown of all the

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Speaker 1: ball gifts that are available. Now a lot of them

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Speaker 1: do the suite now and so they don't itemize things

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit harder to keep track. But we

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Speaker 1: get that question every year, Hey, what are the bull gifts?

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Speaker 1: Because that's been our thing since the beginning of time

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Speaker 1: So I'd love to do that as part of our

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Speaker 1: So yes, somebody please leak it to a soliverbal Gmail do.

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Speaker 2: And there's always like that one unique item. We're like

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Speaker 2: ten years of Omaha steaks for playing in the Liberty

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Speaker 2: Book great, awesome, good for you, Memphis Tigers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, we don't have it.

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Speaker 1: We do not have it. We will do our best

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Speaker 1: the way. Shall we shall we just let's go, shall go,

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Speaker 1: Let's go. We just want to dive in please time

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Speaker 1: of the week, and we could say picks of the week,

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Speaker 1: start with the Friday night game, the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic.

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Speaker 1: It is number nine MISSOO, it is number seven Ohio

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Speaker 1: So what I find interesting about this though, with that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not much precedent though for a player, a

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Speaker 2: but no, the line does make sense. Maybe the swing

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Speaker 2: teams are not going to suffer like a clear setback

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Speaker 2: So I understand the line. And certainly when you talk

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Speaker 2: They're up for that game. I don't see how Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: this game with more juice. Now Ohio State is likely

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Speaker 2: still going into this game with more talent, albeit less

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Speaker 2: proven talent at a number of key spots, including quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So I generally air on the side of talent, but

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Speaker 2: in this situation, with how Maszoo showed out against the

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Speaker 2: worry that Ohio State doesn't have the consistent ability to

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Speaker 2: they have kind of one man incredible shows like Marvin

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Speaker 2: But even the younger receivers can be that. But this

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Speaker 2: was not an especially explosive offense. And the team is

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Speaker 2: that Miszoo lost to this year in the SEC had

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Speaker 2: the team that has its starting quarterback, has star power

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Speaker 2: Like there's there's an odd like buffet quality to Ohio

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Speaker 1: It does feel a little bit discombobulated. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: Eli Drinkwitz coming into this season, we talked about him

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Speaker 1: So I give them a lot of credit. I and

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Speaker 1: it's basically a full boat for Miszoo. We talk about

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Speaker 1: basically full throttle Missoo. Yeah, So I think that in

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Speaker 1: hoping this line continues swinging in favor of Missouri. I

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Speaker 1: on Missoo. But it's lower scoring and it's close, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's something like twenty four to twenty one.

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Speaker 1: If that line goes to four. If the line goes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you think it's close, then I mean

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Speaker 2: it seems like the ad should go to Missoo, who

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Speaker 2: The difficulty I have with Penn State and evaluating their

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Speaker 3: State, and they were right. They were absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: He threw the ball what eight times in that game, right, right.

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Speaker 2: Guess, I still am going to roll with Penn State.

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Speaker 2: I like James Franklin's Bowl history. I don't love the

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Speaker 2: So we're not dealing. The offense doesn't have the elements

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Speaker 1: Four, Capitol One Orange Bowl also being played on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Beck the starter. George has got some death behind Vandergriff

435
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: as well. They'll be okay there, mackay muse. He is

436
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: their wide receiver, their punt returner who had over seven

437
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards. He has decided that he is

438
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: going to transfer out. There are also names like Jaman

439
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: Duma Johnson. I love saying that JDJ had thirty four

440
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: tackles three and a half sacks. People are making a

441
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: big deal out of the fact that this is a

442
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: guy who has thrown his name in the transfer portal.

443
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: Got hurt, I believe, but he didn't play the last

444
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: four games. He didn't play the last four games, so

445
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: to that end, George has been dinged up. There's a

446
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: chance they could get absolutely pummeled by opt outs. Not

447
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: just Carson back, but brock Bowers, Lad McConkie, who else

448
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: we got here, Nazir Stackhouse, a Marius Mims Tate, Like

449
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: I could go through this list, there's like ten names

450
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 1: on this list of guys that could potentially opt out.

451
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 1: So Georgia, we'll see what happens when they kick this

452
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Speaker 1: thing off. I don't make it as much of the

453
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: fact that they're getting transfers and that type of stuff

454
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Speaker 1: to contend with because I just think there is so

455
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: much talent on hand that it's not going to make

456
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: that big a difference and this is still a really,

457
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: really solid team on that top line. Do you agree

458
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: with that?

459
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's twofold. I think it's at a

460
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 2: place as enormous as Georgia, you're going to see attrition

461
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 2: because guys are recruited, they're told that they have an

462
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 2: opportunity to compete for playing time, for starting spots, whatever.

463
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: And Georgia does rotate in a ton of dudes at

464
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: a lot of different positions, especially on defense. But the

465
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: writing can quickly be on the wall with how well

466
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 2: they recruit that if you're passed up by a freshman

467
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 2: and you're a junior or something like that there's not

468
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: really a huge path to playing time at that point,

469
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Speaker 2: especially now Georgia doesn't hit the portal dramatically hard because

470
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: they recruit so well, but certainly they have portaled over

471
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: a couple of positioned players that you know, we're expecting

472
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Speaker 2: to see playing time. And the other thing is if

473
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Speaker 2: nil is the biggest reality is the biggest player here

474
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: in the portal and in recruiting, there is going to

475
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: be a premium on the title Georgia transfer right that

476
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Speaker 2: if you are if you have interest from a bunch

477
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: of other schools and you have the ability to say, well,

478
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: I'm a Georgia transfer corner, I'm a Georgia transfer receiver.

479
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: That just carries more weight than all due respect like

480
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: an Arizona State transfer receiver or an Iowa transfer corner.

481
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: It's Iowa transfer corner is pretty big. But there is

482
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Speaker 2: going to be that financial weight in the same way

483
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: that like movies advertise from the studio that brought you

484
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Speaker 2: so and so.

485
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 3: Did they write that movie, No? No, did they direct it?

486
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Speaker 2: No no, But it's from the studio that brought you

487
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: Jurassic Park, So you know, and I just I still

488
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: think there is that premium in the market for Alabama transfer,

489
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Georgia transfer, Ohio State transfer, whatever, and this is an

490
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Speaker 2: opportunity to maximize art value.

491
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Speaker 1: I think all that's fair. Now. On the Florida State side,

492
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: I think we know that story a little bit more

493
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: intimately because Jordan Travis. It's hurt, Jordan Travis getting hurt

494
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: through the entire playoff conversation into a big friggin blender,

495
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: and it sucks. It sucks, but it's gonna be tate

496
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: Rodemaker's team. I presume he's healthy after the head injury.

497
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: He will not be throwing to Johnny Wilson, who opted out.

498
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: He will probably also not be throwing the Keon Coleman,

499
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Speaker 1: who should opt out. I could also see Jared Verse

500
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: and Trey Benson and jaheem Bell opting out as well. Again,

501
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: we're recording this week in advance, so I don't know yet.

502
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't know yet. I just trust that George has

503
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: got more depth. I trust that this version of the

504
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: Florida State offense is going to have difficulty going up

505
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: against some version of a Georgia defense, even if they're

506
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: hollowed out by guys leaving and going elsewhere.

507
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we saw.

508
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: I'm an opponent more recently for Florida State in Florida

509
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: with Tate Rodamaker, and he performed admirably. Given the circumstances,

510
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: will have much more time to practice. Mike Norvell will

511
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: have a lot more time with Alex Atkins the offensive

512
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: coordinator to structure an offensive game plan that plays to

513
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: Tate Rodamaker's strengths and his lack of experience better than

514
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: what they were preparing for. I mean, they had a

515
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: few days ahead of Florida, but having these this weeks

516
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Speaker 2: of practice and sort of getting Tate roda Maker more

517
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: bowl practice reps I think is important. But as you said,

518
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: you know the opt outs can come the juices with

519
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: Florida State in terms of motivation for this game.

520
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you bring that up because I was going

521
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: to interject and ask please if that, if that at

522
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Speaker 1: all shapes how you feel about this game because the

523
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: points parts at thirteen fourteen's a big number in a

524
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: bowl game. But he obviously understands understand that they are

525
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: qualifiers here. Florida State absolutely cares more about this game

526
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: than Georgia. They have every reason to care more about

527
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: this game. The state of Florida and the powers that be.

528
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Let's say, within the state of Florida, anybody who wants

529
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: to get their name in the news has come out

530
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: in the state of Florida and tried to make their

531
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: case for either suing the college football Playoff or putting

532
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: Bill Hancock on the stand or whatever kind of madness

533
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: people are proposing. There's a lot of hate to be

534
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: made here around this Florida State story because it sucks.

535
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: So we know they care, and we know that they're

536
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: interested in winning this game just so they can be like, Aha,

537
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: we're going to hang the banner anyway. How much does

538
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: that matter to you going into this game? Uh?

539
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: Some for like the first few plays that you're especially

540
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: amped up to show out, But you know, over the

541
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: course of four quarters, the fact remains Florida State was

542
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: a very very good team this year, and Jordan Travison,

543
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback, is a major reason why that was.

544
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: But also a very good defense, They have very good

545
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: running backs, the line continue to improve. You mentioned, you know,

546
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: maybe a lack of Keyon Omen and Johnny Wilson that

547
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: certainly doesn't help. Maybe Jahem Bell too, but I don't

548
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: I don't know that when Georgia played against a definitely

549
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: good team, did did Georgia separate themself? Like you can

550
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: say Ole Miss is definitely good, they separated from ole

551
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: Miss beyond that, you know early on, I'm not gonna

552
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: hold Auburn in South Carolina. That's the first month of

553
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: the season. But like they lose to Alabama, they turned

554
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: the ball over too much at inopportune times against Georgia Tech,

555
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: who's not all that great, Like.

556
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: I don't do you know, I.

557
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Think Florida State is on a level that's still even

558
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: with Tate Roddamaker above everything, but Ole Miss and Bama,

559
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. So I think I would to take

560
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: points here because of the defense involved with Florida State.

561
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: We'll see what that actual defensive too deep looks like,

562
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: but if it's vaguely where it's been this year, I

563
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: think Florida State can cover that number. Yeah, but takes

564
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: a point.

565
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm staying away from. That feels like a really high

566
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: point spread to me, And I don't think they make

567
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: it that high unless they know something, and I don't think.

568
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't think Tate Rodimaker is gonna have a whole

569
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: lot of success going up against this Georgia defense. Like

570
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: the Georgia defense, we can talk about guys transferring out,

571
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of guys that are transferring

572
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: out there are and some of them have played more

573
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: significantly than others. But a lot of these guys have

574
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: played like thirty nine steps on the season. That being said,

575
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: the Georgia defense and the way that I think Kirby

576
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: is able to build this thing in a sustainable way

577
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: so that it's dominant. Every year. They rotate almost more

578
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,239
Speaker 1: than any other team in the country. So you've got

579
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that come in, a lot of

580
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: guys that go out on a play by play basis.

581
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: That's how they build depth, that's how they build just

582
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: this machine that is always good on defense here and

583
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: in year out. So to take a few guys out

584
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: of that, maybe that impacts their ability to play at

585
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: such a high level, to stay fresh when they're out there.

586
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think is highly about Tate Rodemaker.

587
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to get the start, he knows

588
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: the system, but we've seen him in very limited action

589
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: and it's just he is not Jordan Travis.

590
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: He isn't No.

591
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Speaker 2: And look, this is also probably more for Georgia than

592
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: for Florida State. Right Florida State, there's a narrative involved.

593
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: Georgia you can very comfortably say is likely one of

594
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: the four best teams in the country with how they

595
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: played all season long and just barely lose to Alabama

596
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: in the SEC Championship game. This might be more of

597
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: an audition for Georgia players that are on the roster,

598
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: that are looking at what the incoming portal class and

599
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: recruiting class looks like, and he's like, I need to

600
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: show out against a team like Florida State on a

601
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: stage like this. So while the narrative Jews is with

602
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: Florida State, you can understand why certain players who perhaps

603
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: weren't getting a ton of playing time and might be

604
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: sort of not on the chopping block that's sort of

605
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: a crude way to put it, but like being evaluated

606
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: for their futures at Georgia might be playing extra ordinarily

607
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: hard and might be really locked in during bowl practices

608
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: and you know, are a key part or a key

609
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: cog or a key part of the engine that has

610
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: Georgia winning this game by three touchdowns. So I understand

611
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: that part.

612
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: Of it thirty three to fourteen for me, Georgia, okay,

613
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: and I'm hesitant. I'm hesitant on that, but that's if

614
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: I were picking a score, I'd go something in that neighborhood.

615
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: I have twenty four to thirteen. They cover but loose.

616
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: All right. The final New Year six game that we're

617
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: going to talk about today, the episode that we drop

618
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: a little bit later on in this week, is going

619
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Speaker 1: to be the more in depth playoff preview. Yes, Fiesta

620
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: Bowl New Year's Day, one pm East noon, Central State

621
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Speaker 1: Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. We were there, number twenty

622
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: three Liberty, number eight Oregon, Oregon favored by seventeen and

623
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: a half points. Yep, which is a lot, which is

624
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: a lot. Bo Nix is going to play for Oregon.

625
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: That is per Dan Lanning, as is Bucky Irving. I

626
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: believe Dan Lanning mentioned that the plan was for him

627
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: to play in this game. So we've got a number

628
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: of names otherwise, Troy Franklin's and TEJ Johnson's and Johnny Cornelius,

629
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Dorriles, Jordan Birch like, there are a lot of

630
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: key contributors on the Oregon side that could decide they

631
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: don't want to play in this football game for a

632
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: multitude of reasons. We have mentioned time and again that

633
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: Liberty has played arguably the weakest schedule of any FBS team,

634
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: which is hard to do. That's really hard to do.

635
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: That does not say much for what will happen to them.

636
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: It does not necessarily mean they can't compete with Oregon,

637
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: but it means that we don't have a whole lot

638
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: of overlap to look at here. If we're trying to

639
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: construct that case in which Liberty takes Oregon to the gun,

640
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: or even takes Oregon to a ten point game, it's

641
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: really hard to build that case looking at the scheduled

642
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: teams that they played so far this season. So let

643
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: me ask you. I know you study this game. We

644
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: both know what Liberty is about. Offensively, it's a lot

645
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: of rushing. It is certainly I think better on defense

646
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: than a lot of people care to admit. But that

647
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: being said, Oregon has played many better teams this season.

648
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: Is there a world in which Liberty does not get

649
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: blown off the field by Oregon?

650
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: I can't see it. But previously on my Oregon predictions

651
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: I had them comfortably beating Washington. Now Washington Liberty is

652
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: certainly different teams in the back twelve Championship game. I

653
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: think Oregon comfortably wins this game. I think the depth

654
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: of players involved here, even without Troy Franklin, the fact

655
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: that they have their coordinators, the fact that they have

656
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: recruited the defensive line especially, And I don't know what's

657
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: going to be what's going to be with Brandon Dorriles.

658
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: This would be his final game as an Oregon doc

659
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: if he plays. But I still think there's enough star

660
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: power on both sides of the ball that you're going

661
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 2: to see, even if it's a third string running back

662
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: at a bunch of carries, like if it's Jaden Lamar,

663
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: whoever it is, You're going to see an Oregon team

664
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: that is going to be able to take advantage of

665
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: speed and talent on offense. Bo Nix is gonna look

666
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: to go out in a big way in his final

667
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: college game eighty four games, and I believe that. I

668
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: just I see very little opportunity for Oregon to screw

669
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: this one up because I think they are locked into

670
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 2: this one. If you're going to take bo Nicks returning

671
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: as a sign right that like the guy with everything

672
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: to lose wants to play out and go big, so

673
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: it's probably a signal to the rest of the roster

674
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: to focus.

675
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just I think.

676
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: You're going to see a lot of younger players playing

677
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: for Oregon, and the same situation with Georgia that even

678
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: though like the obvious narrative, juice isn't there, especially against

679
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 2: a program like Liberty who hasn't played in a lot

680
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: of big national games this year. Dan Lanning is not

681
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: shy about utilizing the transfer portal. Obviously, it looks like

682
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: they're bringing in a top ten last when all is

683
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: said and done, early and late stage signing period, so

684
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of competition for a lot

685
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: of spots, and there will be more guys entering the

686
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: portal as it. You know, the writing gets you know

687
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: written on the wall that's English.

688
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

689
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: I think Oregon probably wins this game something like forty

690
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: two to seventeen.

691
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah. Now, the only thing that I'm

692
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: interested in to see is if Liberty can run the

693
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: ball against organ. If Liberty can't run the ball against Oregon,

694
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: this game's over. This game's toast. But if they can,

695
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: I could see him keeping it within that number, maybe

696
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: on a garbage time touchdown something of that ilk, I

697
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: still wouldn't want to bet on that, you know, Bull season,

698
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: I think with betting points and the like, it's it's

699
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: more about truly bet on the team that you think

700
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: can win, and not on a team simply because you

701
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: think they can keep it within the number. Both season's

702
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: all about that because of all of this player movement,

703
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: whether guys are opting out or going pro or transferring

704
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: to a different team, you see that a lot where

705
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: a team could very easily be an eleven point dog

706
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: and win the game outright by eleven. So bet on

707
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: the teams that you think can win. And I just

708
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: I can't in good faith put my name behind Liberty

709
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: here because I don't think they can beat Oregon. I

710
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: don't think they've got enough juice to knock off.

711
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: The dunk now.

712
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: I think there's a talent discrepancy. If Oregon is locked in, right,

713
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: that's the difference. If Oregon is locked in, this is

714
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: not UCF from a few years ago. This is not

715
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: Boise State from ten to fifteen years ago. This is

716
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: not TCUs defense from ten to fifteen years ago. As

717
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: a group of five team with NFL talent. It's just

718
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: it's not apples to apples in this case specifically, so

719
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Oregon pick.

720
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: All right, we agree on that. Let's let's I'll rattle

721
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: off a few of these other games, Okay, okay, and

722
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: we don't have to go through all of them. We

723
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: did go through all of these again back on our

724
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: intro to Bowl season podcast that we did a couple

725
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. But just in your course of study,

726
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: if you found anything interesting about these matchups, just call

727
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: it out here. What's a safe space. We're all friends.

728
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: A couple games to mention on Wednesday, the twenty seventh

729
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Military Bowl is Virginia Tech favored by ten against Tulane.

730
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Also the Duke's Mayo Bowl, which is North Carolina and

731
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: West Virginia. The Holiday Bowl which is Loulyville favored by

732
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: a touchdown against USC and the Texas Bowl which is

733
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: Texas A and M minus two and a half against

734
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. Any of those games I've interest you for

735
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: whatever reason.

736
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: All of these games are interesting to me. This is

737
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: the last gas of the twenty twenty three season. I

738
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: like bowl season. I'm into it. Okay, of these games

739
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: you said these are on the twenty seventh.

740
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: These are on the twenty seventh.

741
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, I have the over under set at

742
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: sixty one and a half USC scholarship players playing in

743
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: this game.

744
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: Man, what is going on one out there? It's more

745
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: look there the portal hard.

746
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: Good for them.

747
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: They're making some savvy I think defensive changes.

748
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: Danton Lane.

749
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: I saw they brought in Doug Belk from Houston to

750
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: coach the DB's I think he's a solid coach. Like

751
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: I think they're going about it. They brought in I

752
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: think a player or two from Morgan State's defense, Like

753
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: they're going to build a little bit more depth and

754
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: talent on this defense. But in this game specifically, that's

755
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 2: going to be a fascinating thing to see. Who actually

756
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: plays for USC. Malachai Nelson.

757
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say Malachai Nelson is in the portal,

758
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: which means we are officially on Moss Watch.

759
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: We're on Mosswatch.

760
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: And look, this is the other great thing about Bowl

761
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: season is this doesn't count against eligibility for a lot

762
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: of these younger players. So in the situation where maybe

763
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: a guy was hurt and saving his red shirt, a

764
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: high profile guy like we'll get to see players that

765
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: should intrigue twenty four, twenty five, twenty six, that kind

766
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: of thing, and USC seem like they would be one

767
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: of those programs, but maybe not so. Virginia Tech is

768
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 2: another program where I'm curious to see how they put

769
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: a bow on this season as they go into portal time,

770
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: they're a much more attractive place to start filling in

771
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: gaps via the portal via, you know, maybe a late

772
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: surge recruiting whatever, as they were not a surprise surprise,

773
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: but like the pass rush was certainly very well for

774
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech. So that's a team I'm interested in putting

775
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: an exclamation point on the season.

776
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: And they're favored by ten points against Tulane, which is

777
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: big number because Tulane's a good team. But bear in

778
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: mind Tulane lost their coach, Willie Fritz went to Houston.

779
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: They've got a bunch of transfers and there could still

780
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: be more on the way at time of recording. So

781
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: if you didn't pick Virginia Tech, we were both on

782
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech when we did the intro episode. If you

783
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: didn't pick them, you can't go back in your Winter

784
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: Wonders Bullpool and you can switch your pick. You can

785
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: switch your pick, you can switch your point totals, all

786
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: that stuff. I would say, go pick Virginia Tech if

787
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: you have it. I feel pretty confident in Virginia Tech.

788
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: I don't know about MINEUS ten, but outright, I feel

789
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: pretty good about Virginia Tech outright. The other one that

790
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to call out that I find particularly interesting

791
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: is Duke's male Bowl. Okay, Drake may going pro no surprise,

792
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: thre opting out? Yeah, yeah, opt the out. So are

793
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: Cedric Gray, Corey gainor tes Walker, Miles Murphy. I think

794
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: Miles Murphy's gonna play, but not just that. They got

795
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of transfers, a bunch of injuries. West Virginia's

796
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: gonna be down their big time center, Zac Fraser, who

797
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: had surgery. But I think this is one of those

798
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: deals where legitimately West Virginia, which likes to run, I

799
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: think they can line up and just run it every

800
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: play and win by seven. I think that's the kind

801
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: of game this is. I feel better about West Virginia

802
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: now than I did when I did the intro episode,

803
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: and obviously Vegas does as well. I think this line

804
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: has moved. It's now West Virginia by six and a

805
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: half points. So I like West Virginia. I'm just curious

806
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: to see what version of North Carolina we get. I

807
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: could see North Carolina getting absolutely pummeled in this game. Yeah,

808
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: I like West Virginia as well.

809
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: But that again, good story, and you can say what

810
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: you will about the depth and what the top of

811
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve actually was this year. If West Virginia

812
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: is winning eight games, they can continue that against it.

813
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: Drake and tes Walker lists UNC. So yeah, no, it'll

814
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: be a nice story if you're an ear fan of

815
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: finish with a win like this.

816
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, four games. On the twenty eighth, it is the

817
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: Fenway Bowl, the Wasabi Fenway Bowl. It is SMU by

818
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: eleven favored over Boston College. In the Pinchtripe Bowl, it

819
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: is Miami favored by one over Rutgers, Pop Tards Bowl,

820
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: k State favored by three over NC State, and Ala Mobile.

821
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: It is Arizona favored by three over Oklahoma. So just

822
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: to recap, on the preview episode, we both had Boston

823
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: College just randomly at home over SMU and the Fenway Bowl.

824
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: I believe we took Rutgers in the Pinchtripe Bowl, we

825
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: both had NC State and the Pop Tards Bowl and

826
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Speaker 1: Arizona in the Ala mobile.

827
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: Avery Johnson Kansas State can't wait. I want to see

828
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: what he looks like. He I think officially announced heart

829
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: like it has been announced that he's not leaving. Even

830
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: though Colin Klein left, Will Howard leaves. Avery Johnson's the

831
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: guy like, can't wait to see it's at NC State, right,

832
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: That's who Kansas State has.

833
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: Eight now we both took en ce State, but I

834
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: am excited to see Avery Johnson.

835
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: I want to see what we have in Avery Johnson

836
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: because I've been a fan of his since day one,

837
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: where they've started using him in different packages, so that

838
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: to me is super intriguing. Pinstrip Bowl looks like it's

839
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: going to be just a mess. Miami Ruckers, It's gonna

840
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: be a mess. I'm gonna watch it. Arizona, Oklahoma sounds

841
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: just like a legitimately and for the same reason as

842
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: my Avery Johnson interest, my Jackson Arnold interest, and he's

843
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: had some time, has been shaky at times, but the

844
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: talent there is obvious. So to see Arizona put a

845
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: bow on a really impressive season for the Cats taking

846
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: on an Oklahoma team who looked very impressive down at

847
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: starting quarterback though, and Dylan Gabriel transferring out to Oregon.

848
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: That to me is a highlight, an absolute highlight of

849
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: this day.

850
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: Did you happen to see the video from Danny Stutzman

851
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: announcing that he's coming back? Of course, so the wall

852
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: with Brian Bosworth.

853
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, it's great.

854
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: Love those videos, love the energy. Can't get enough of

855
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: those videos. Oklahoma lost Jeff Levy, he took the job

856
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: at Mississippi State. They've got a bunch of guys that

857
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: have entered the transfer portal, notably Dylan Gabriel. But as

858
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: you said, Jackson Arnold, Jackson Arnold is guy that Frank.

859
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: Gam with you.

860
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited to see more of it with practice time. Yeah,

861
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: bull reps, Yeah, more of what he has to offer.

862
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: The reason that we like Arizona, though, is because Arizona

863
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: is a full boat. Yep, it's a full boat. Now

864
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: Jordan Morgan opted out left tackle, but otherwise I feel

865
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about Arizona. In this football game,

866
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: are Friday sun Ball? There we go, Tony the Tiger

867
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Speaker 1: Sunball Oregon State against Notre Dame Notre Dame Theory by

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Speaker 1: six and a half. Also got the Gator Bowl, which

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Speaker 1: is Clemson in Kentucky Clemson by four, and the Liberty

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Speaker 1: Bowl AutoZone Liberty Bowl getting the zone with Memphis against

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Speaker 1: Iowa State. I was State favorite by nine and a half. Look,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who's playing receiver for Notre Dame in

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Speaker 1: this game. They've taken some transfers. We can talk about

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Speaker 1: that on a different episode. They've been doing some work

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Speaker 1: on that front. They're going to be looking for a

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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator as Jared Parker has mysteriously taken the

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Speaker 1: head coaching job at Troy. So that to me is

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna package up my excitement and we will save

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Speaker 1: it for a later episode, I promise you. But Okay,

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Speaker 1: but I still feel better about Notre Dame in this

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Speaker 1: matchup because Oregon State's down a coach or down their

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Speaker 1: top two quarterbacks. They've had to contend with a bunch

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Speaker 1: of transfers as well. That program. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: say it's in free fall. I don't mean it in

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Speaker 1: like a derogatory way, but obviously Oregon State's going through

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Speaker 1: a bit of a transition. I still like Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: I still like Notre Dame's defense. I still think they're

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Speaker 1: the team to beat in this matchup. So give me

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Speaker 1: Oregon State maybe to keep this one closed for a

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Speaker 1: half or so, but Notre Dame to end up winning

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Speaker 1: by ten to fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Notre Dame here as well. By the way,

893
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Speaker 2: just in general, the Sun Bowl is a Cornerstone Bowl

894
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 2: for me, always formerly the Brute Sun Bowl, and maybe

895
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Speaker 2: literally a Cornerstone Bowl with the Rock formations in El Paso.

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Speaker 2: I love, I love the Sun Bowl. It's always weird.

897
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: It's either crazy low scoring, crazy high scoring. This one

898
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Speaker 2: promises to be odd as well. So yes, I'm going

899
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Speaker 2: to watch the Sun Bowl. Clemson Kentucky not super interesting

900
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Speaker 2: to me given all the changes really at both schools.

901
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: Iowa State Memphis will to see Iowa State nearly a

902
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: double digit favorite against anybody, but their offense did get

903
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: better this year. I will be watching that. Hopefully we

904
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Speaker 2: can get some sort of weird Iowa State shootout. Because

905
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Speaker 2: that's a phrase we don't get to use a lot.

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Speaker 1: That Clemson Kentucky game. That's your window of opportunity. Man,

907
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: don't watch that game. Don't do that to yourself.

908
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: Losing guys in the secondary. I'm sure they're opt outs

909
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: from Clemson. I don't know if you have it in

910
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Speaker 2: front of you, but yeah, yeah, just like Tough Watch.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't watch that game. As you said, you got

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Speaker 1: Bo Collins who trans for it out there wide receiver, Ye,

913
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: Andrew mccuba gone Toronto. Pride has transferred I think to Missoo.

914
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Speaker 1: They've got Nate Wiggins, Jeremiah Trotter, just like there are

915
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Speaker 1: names to watch here that I.

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Speaker 2: Think Wiggans opted out. I believe, Yeah, Wiggins is pretty

917
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Speaker 2: early on is no, No, I'm not playing this.

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Speaker 1: And Kentucky's got guys in the portal as well, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the offense is going to look

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Speaker 1: like here. To say the least, Ray Davis l ray

921
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Speaker 1: out for Kentucky. I don't expect that this is going

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Speaker 1: to be a fun game to watch. That's why I'm

923
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Speaker 1: playing the Window of opportunities sound okay. Next? Next, we've

924
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Speaker 1: got on Saturday the Music City Bowl, Auburn favored by

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Speaker 1: two and a half over Maryland. You and I both

926
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Speaker 1: took Maryland initially and then in the Arizona Bawl. It's

927
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Speaker 1: Toledo against Wyoming. Wyoming favored by three and a half points.

928
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Speaker 1: I think we also both took Wyoming in the matchup.

929
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Speaker 1: Toledo quarterback former quarterback to Kwan Finn announced that he

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Speaker 1: is transferring to Baylor, so he will not be playing

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Speaker 1: this one.

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Speaker 3: Figures it's the final one for Craig final one.

933
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Speaker 1: For Craig Bowl. Yeah, I was gonna say, figures to

934
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Speaker 1: be the swan song for Craig Bowl, whose head is

935
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Speaker 1: still shaped like the orgoneau the inside. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: we both favor the Cowboys here in this matchep Monday,

937
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Speaker 1: January first, the Relyaquest Bowl between Wisconsin and LSULC favored

938
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Speaker 1: by eight and a half. Also, in the Cheese It

939
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Speaker 1: Citrus Bowl, it is Iowa and Tennessee. Tennessee favored by

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Speaker 1: eight and a half points. So these games take place

941
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Speaker 1: a little earlier in the day the playoff matchups, which

942
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Speaker 1: again we promise later this week we're going to give

943
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Speaker 1: you a more in depth preview about those games. They

944
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Speaker 1: start at five pm Eastern and at eight forty five

945
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Speaker 1: pm Eastern. Thank you so very much for whoever made

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Speaker 1: the schedule for those of us on the East Coast,

947
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: really appreciate what you're doing to our sleep cycle. Like

948
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Speaker 1: a Phillies Mets p DS game. Yeah, brutal, brutal, absolutely brutal. Anyway,

949
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Speaker 1: that's the traditional time slot for the Sugar Bowl. I

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Speaker 1: get they play this game at that time every year.

951
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 2: Should we live stream this? Can we just be punchy late?

952
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: I mean, we do whatever we want.

953
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Speaker 1: I think our plan is going to be to record

954
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Speaker 1: early the next day. Okay, record early the next day

955
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: so that we can give people more of a total

956
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: picture for what went on in the playoffs in some

957
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: of these New Year six Bowl games. And so we're

958
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: not like rushing to do that at midnight. I think

959
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna do that early on Tuesday and then drop

960
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: that to the feed right away. But as for what

961
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: we could do on January the first, it's really it's

962
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: really whatever we're feeling, man.

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Speaker 3: I think we should do that.

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Speaker 1: I think we should crack open some bruise.

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00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I will pass out after one and a half

966
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: and all right, watch what the late game is?

967
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Speaker 3: What Washington, Texas? Yeah, I think we do that.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Any thoughts on Wisconsin, Lsuiowa, Tennessee.

969
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: Jane Daniels playing mape hopefully.

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Speaker 1: I hope so, I would love to say play. I

971
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Speaker 1: think they win. That guy's pretty good. They win regardless. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Jane Daniels is going to I'm very

973
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Speaker 1: surprised by that.

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Speaker 2: We'll watch that game Tennessee, Iowa. I cannot wait for

975
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Speaker 2: one of probably my four or five games I'm looking

976
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Speaker 2: forward to most.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's close this thing out on a high note, Dan,

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Speaker 1: shall we okay play?

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Speaker 4: Some players are good, some are great, and some are

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00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 4: just dudes. Welcome to dood Alert presented by Pristine Auction.

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Speaker 1: You know, you could make a really strong case that

982
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: we should always be doing the Doode alert before the games.

983
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: We should be putting people on alert for the dudes

984
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: that could be impacting their respective games. So, with it

985
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: being bull season and a different schedule when we're not

986
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: so much recapping games, at least not on this episode

987
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: as we are previewing, it stands to reason that you,

988
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, can give some actual alerts, some useful utility

989
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: in this year podcast and tell us who to watch for.

990
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: What are you into.

991
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: Jordan James Oregon running back. He's going to be the

992
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: number one guy next year if if and when Bucky

993
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: Irving plays in this game is going to be for

994
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 2: like two or three series. They're not going to try

995
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: jeopardize his NFL career. He has opted for the NFL Draft,

996
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: had more eligibility, and Bucky Irving has been tremendous. Jordan

997
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: James is an absolute dude, and I think he'll run

998
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: wild in this game for Oregon.

999
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: Steve Angelly, I don't think jelly. I don't think you're

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00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: ready for a jelly. Why.

1001
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: Oregon State has a head coach who's not coaching in

1002
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: this game, but he is their head coach. So I

1003
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,959
Speaker 2: think Notre Dame eventually will We'll get loose, and hey,

1004
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: maybe Steve Angeli gets a little weird and he's not

1005
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 2: going to compete with Riley Leonard for the starting job

1006
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: next year.

1007
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

1008
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: Avery Johnson I mentioned already. I think Noah Fafida has

1009
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: a chance to have a real coming out party. I

1010
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: think that's right because Oklahoma's defense this is very conducive

1011
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: to a quarterback that can put up numbers. And that's

1012
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: not to say they're not better. They're definitely better than

1013
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: they were a year ago. Don't take me out of context.

1014
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: But Noah Fafida and Arizona have a lot to play

1015
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: for in this game, and it's going to be a

1016
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: full boat for the Wildcats. I think they're trying to

1017
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: build some steam going into the Big twelve next season,

1018
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: and so I think there's a real chance Noah Fafida

1019
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: comes out of this game with like three hundred and

1020
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: fifty yards passing in four touchdowns. So I'll put I'll

1021
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: put my chips on Noa.

1022
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Fa Fida, Jordan James, Steve Angeli and no Fafida.

1023
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go with that. There you go, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Last, but certainly not least. We've been reading reviews

1025
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Speaker 1: from people love these We appreciate everybody offering their support.

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Speaker 1: We've been asking you, if you like the show, going

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Speaker 1: All this stuff helps. Man, We're trying to build this

1032
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Speaker 1: momentum going into the off season. We're not going to

1033
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Speaker 1: stop recording. We don't so we haven't stopped recording for

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. We're not going to stop now. I want

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Speaker 1: to give a shout out to dollar Man sixty three,

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Speaker 1: who left us these words of encouragement. He titled it gratitude.

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Speaker 1: How could I not read one titled gratitude?

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Speaker 3: That's great?

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Speaker 1: Grateful for my son turning me on to the Solid

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Speaker 1: Verbal and grateful to Dan and Tye for providing such

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1042
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Speaker 1: I'm reading all of these, all the good ones anyway.

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Speaker 1: There are some negative ones in there. It's just sort

1047
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Speaker 1: of the nature of the beast. But I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Man all those shows in consecutive weeks, fifteen years worth,

1055
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Speaker 2: without having to resort to a Kevin Costner Electric issue

1056
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Speaker 2: to continue the streak going was it was Kevin Costner, Right,

1057
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Speaker 2: that's the rumor, the allegation. I have no idea what

1058
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Speaker 2: you're talking about, no idea what you're talking about. You

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Speaker 2: have no idea what I'm talking about. Zero, you don't

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Speaker 2: know like Cal Ripken Jr. Allegedly, Oh, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: verify this, but it involves Kevin Costner, It involves Cal

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Speaker 2: Ripkins Jr. It involves the streak. Google it yourself, and

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Speaker 2: it involves what an electrical issue at Camden Yards to

1064
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Speaker 2: continue the streak. We haven't had to resort to that

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Speaker 2: to continue this long streak. Now, do you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about?

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Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: I know you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yes, making sure I know what you're talking about. Make

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Speaker 1: about trying to buy it to put in the backdrop

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Speaker 1: that would look really really nice. Bid start at one

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Speaker 1: dollar head to Pristine Auction dot com US the code

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Speaker 1: solid for ten dollars off your first win. Wow. Pretty good.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Just because there's always news that breaks

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Speaker 2: as we record this days in advance of these games,

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Speaker 2: Carson Beck officially announcing he's coming back next year.

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Speaker 3: Good for him.

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Speaker 1: That's great for Georgia. Okay, great for Georgia, For that

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Speaker 1: guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

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Speaker 1: Tie Hildon Brandt, appreciate you hanging with us here, downloading

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Speaker 1: and supporting the show. We'll be back later in this week.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk all things college football playoff. See

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Speaker 1: you that stay solid price