WEBVTT - MOO WITH MEEE 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:03.320 Girl. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.160 Wait, girl, we don't know what the last five years are. 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:10.160 Tell me, tell me my god, Virginia. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:18.640 She's sheen ay no ma, not name yo No? What 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:20.120 is your childhood traumas? 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:23.000 I am a chuck. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.200 You what's going down before you? 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:40.400 So well? Welcome to Like a Virgin, the show where 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.839 we give yesterday's pop culture today's takes Arma's dom you. 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:45.360 I'm Frantrado and. 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.040 There has never been a better time to become a 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.320 patron at patreon dot com slash Like a Virgin, where 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:55.040 we do weekly bonus episodes. 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You Fran literally said not no, not no. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:44.560 So said yes. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.160 And one of the rare times I have said. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.720 No, that's not your narrative anymore. Rose, you always say yes. 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:56.280 And oh thanks no, but no, but so yes. Today 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:02.480 we will be loosely discussing, you know, the rock musical Rent, 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.760 which you know, took the world by storm in nineteen 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:10.000 ninety six when it premiered both off Broadway and then 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:14.720 eventually on Broadway. Was later adapted into a feature film 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:20.680 by Christopher Columbus, probably the most misguided directing choice ever 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:27.840 made a live musical, and truly like has been weaponized 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.359 by theater kids across the globe for. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:39.360 Decades now, weaponizing the text of Rent and their bfas 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:40.360 all at the same time. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.760 When I think of Rent, and I want to know 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:48.480 if you have the same thought, I think very specifically, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.440 and this might be a theater kid thing of the 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.000 double CD soundtrack. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.800 Oh I had that, of course you did. 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:58.560 I'm pretty sure I had that, Or if I didn't 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.040 have it, I definitely checked it out from the library 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.760 and burned it, burned both discs, not in. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.320 The fire like you copied it. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.840 No, no, no, remember barns our gen Z listeners if we 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.080 have any, might not know what that that terminology? Jesus 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.359 fucking Christ what gen Z listeners? I honest, So we 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.520 definitely have them, really, yeah, oh my god. 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.280 I thought it was mostly it is. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.960 Mostly memornials, but there are some gen Z people. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:28.039 H I know, I used to burn CDs profusely and 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.200 I'm sure Rent was one of those things. And for 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.480 a very long time, Rent was one of my kind 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:38.320 of key brand pillars. I would say it was like Rent, 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:42.960 it was Mulin Rouge and what else did I believe 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:44.559 in baz lerment? 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:44.920 I don't. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.520 I mean, I don't know. I don't know what the 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.360 third brand pillar is. I'll come, it'll, it'll come back 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:50.599 to me. But what about you? 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.840 Well, so I might surprise you by saying this, but 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.320 I don't really fuck with Rent like that, right, I 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.320 you know, I obviously. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.560 I always think that you're like a super standard. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.839 No. No, no, I'm obviously with Charlene. No, I'm honestly like, 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.359 of course, I'm very familiar with it. I've seen it 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.360 on Broadway, I've seen the movie. I know the songs. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:19.919 I had the soundtrack. But it's not really my tea 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.359 with musical theater. I mean, we all know from listening 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:27.440 to this podcast, I am a recovering musical theater girly, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.840 and I am also somewhat reclaiming it as as an adult, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.880 but I always gravitated towards, you know, more classic musicals 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.120 and also more bombastic musicals, like we've talked about Phantom 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.920 of the Opera Is my favorite musical one of your 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:48.000 key brand pillars? Yes, yeah, definitely at the time, definitely. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:53.919 And Rent was always a little too poppy for me 0:05:55.000 --> 0:06:02.560 as a teenager. Yeah, And I I just didn't really 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.560 form my personality around it the way that a lot 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:09.159 of people that I was friends with at the time, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.800 did you know, I was much more likely to be 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.800 listening to the Last Five Years soundtrack than I was 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:16.880 listening to Rent. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.119 What's the Last five Years? 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.440 The Last five Years as a music hole by Jason 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:21.119 Robert Brown? 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:25.400 Who is that? He's a you wouldn't know him, okay, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.039 and said it like it was somebody that. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.839 I mean, he is somebody. But if you're a musical 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:38.120 theater girly like that. It's a two person show about 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.880 a married couple and the dissolution of their marriage, and 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:49.000 it takes place in opposite timelines. So the musical starts 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.960 from the woman's side with the end of their marriage 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:58.440 and then goes backwards in time, and then the man's 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.880 side starts from the beginning of their courtship and goes 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:03.920 forward in time and they meet in the middle when 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:10.960 they get married, and it is incredible music. Oh, it's 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:17.280 like a really like interesting storytelling device. Sherry Renee Scott 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.200 and Norbert Leo Butts were in the original cast. Shary 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:25.160 Renee Scott is like a Broadway legend and it has 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.920 some of my favorite songs in musical theater, like a 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.760 Summer in Ohio, like the Schmool song. Just kidding, I 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.840 hate the Schmool song. It was adapted into a film 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.280 with Anna Kendrick, which is not a bad movie but 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.760 is not like gag worthy, but it's I think it 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.920 was only ever off Broadway, but my friends and I 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.800 were obsessed with it in high school and I specifically remember, 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.400 did you ever do one of those all night like 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.600 cancer walk a thon thing? Yes? 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:03.440 Yes, my boyfriend at the time and I jerked each 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:04.880 other off in like a boy Scouts TN. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.720 Okay, so while you were doing that, my friends and 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:14.240 I were sitting around like an artificial campfire, singing along 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:15.920 to the Last five Years. 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.120 Did you also have to wear t shirts that said 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:18.960 cancer sucks? 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:19.600 No? 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.640 Okay, we had these T shirts that said cancer sucks, 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.880 and all the proceeds went to cancer, not to cancer, 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.840 not pro cancer, anti cancer. It was actually to pro 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:34.679 cancer poses people things giving you cancer, no I U. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.400 And every it was like it was like the new 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.120 north Face. Like everyone had a cancer sucks T shirt 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.800 because they came in lots of different colors, and it 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.160 was like really like crazy to have the words sucks 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:45.840 on a T shirt. 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.320 And it'd be like, oh, yeah, I mean. 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:54.000 That was that was rebellious as fuck in high school. Sucks. Yeah. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.320 No, that is kind of the era of culture that 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:01.040 Rent found me. I didn't know that it was an 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:02.920 adaptation of Labohm for a long time. 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.480 It is famously an adaptation of the opera. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.079 But instead of TV, it's AIDS. 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.160 It's AIDS. So for anyone who doesn't know the basic 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:15.480 premise of Rent, it's about or it's about a group 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:20.160 of young artists and like artists adjacent people living in 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.679 New York City in the nineties bohemians and they can't 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.320 pay their rent. They live in Alphabet City, which is 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.560 you know, downtown on the East Side, and a bunch 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:34.520 of them have AIDS and the only trans person or 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.400 like gender queer person is the one who dies of it. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:43.079 There's a performance artist, there's a filmmaker who sells out. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:48.240 There's a straight couple who are the great love story 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.040 of the piece. Yeah, both have AIDS. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:51.240 I forgot that they are. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:53.959 They are the centerpiece of the show, the straight couple. 0:09:54.320 --> 0:10:00.120 Why because because Jonathan Larson, who wrote the music. And 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.040 this is something that a lot of people that gets 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.400 obscured a lot. And I mean even when we shut 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.320 up and we're talking about this, you were like, oh, 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.920 didn't he die from AIDS? And no, he died from 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.880 complications from an aneurysm. And he was straight. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.400 Yeah heterosexual, Yeah, he was straight and unfortunately died the 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.760 day after the very first dress rehearsal. 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.400 He died the morning after the Music Hall's final dress rehearsal. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.479 What's your favorite song from Rent? 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:27.480 That's hard? 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:29.000 Mm? 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.000 Will you light my candle? 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:38.800 What are you staring at? Nothing? Your hair in the moonlight? 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.640 You look familiar? Can you make it? 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:43.600 Just? 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:48.680 Haven't eat much to stop spinning anyway? 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:49.840 What right? 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:51.280 Isn't she like coked out or something? 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:52.960 And she's on Heroin? 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:53.439 Oh? 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:54.000 Heroin? 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.720 Yeah? Oh that's she and Roger are both Heroin auticts. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.640 Oh eh, I used to tie you up. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.160 It's a living. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.079 Doesn't the guy who plays Roger is gay? 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:06.400 I don't think so. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:11.000 Oh really, no, Oh my god, that's so confusing. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:16.800 Who went on Aida? And then wait, is this the 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:18.920 guy which also has Sharon Scott in it, who was 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:19.880 in the last five years? 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:21.800 Oh of course. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:26.240 I have already told this story, or I've already said 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.480 in in maybe the first season of the pod that 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.560 this was definitely one of the things that like broke 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:32.120 me open. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:33.400 It's I don't know why. 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.480 I'm only realizing that Mulan Rouge and Rent, which both 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.320 came into my life around the same time from the 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.000 same person who was mel that bisexual goth I was 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:46.640 friends with in They and my best friend's called a Sack. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.680 She showed both of those movies to me, and they're 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.679 both about bohemians and they're both based on and they're 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.520 bolls based. Oh my god, they're based and they're both 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:04.280 about aids. Well, no, no, she has bargulations. She has consumption. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:06.880 That's what they called TV. 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.640 You just love saying I do love saying consumption because 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.440 I consumption, because I do wish that I was like 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.880 a frail Victorian woman coughing up blood into a handkerchief. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.559 Do you want to know what my favorite song from Rento's. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.320 Yes, forgive me for not asking. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.120 It's Over the Moon, which is the. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.360 Song that no one sings, no one's ever heard of 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:33.280 flap song. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:38.200 Only thing to do is jump over the Moon. It's 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:43.160 a Dina Menzelle, Maureen's character performing. It's her performance piece 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.120 that she does in the first act. It's incredibly iconic. 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.640 It's the one where she moves moove with me, moo 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:52.200 with me. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.520 Oh, the performance art moment. 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.600 It's incredible and you have not lived until you've seen 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.640 Charlene do it at TNT on a Tuesday night. Move 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:02.360 with Me. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:09.800 Shar is an actual Rent historian, And No's like, we 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.120 actually should we text her right now? 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.679 Do you think she's by the studio? She could come 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.959 right I actually, I actually talk about it for hours. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.840 Well, she wrote a piece about rent Out that I 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.000 think I commission. I remember this, Yeah, and it was 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.640 really great. She she is definitely a rent scholar because 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:31.040 it is a very foundational musical for her. And yeah, 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:32.960 we should have planned ahead and had her back for 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:34.520 this episode, but we didn't. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:35.960 We didn't plan ahead at all. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:40.440 Also, Rent is a Christmas musical, right it is the 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.360 first act takes place on Christmas? 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:43.720 Or are you and I going to watch it on 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:44.640 December first this year? 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.840 Maybe? I haven't watched the movie in a couple of years. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.360 So the movie came out when I was in I 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.080 guess probably when we were both in high school. It 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:01.360 came out on Thanksgiving. I saw it when I was 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:06.120 I was in Connecticut visiting my dad's family for Thanksgiving. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.959 And you know, whenever we did that, there would be 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.040 one night where we would all go to the movies 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.320 and no one wanted to see Rent except me. But 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:21.400 I bullied my dad into taking me to it gay 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.600 and because it's not like I wanted to see it, 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.920 But I think the other option was National Treasure, and 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:29.480 I did want to see it because even though I 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.760 didn't love Rent, like obviously, I still liked it. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:37.760 National Treasure is an exquisite film. I've never seen it. 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:38.880 It's an amazing movie. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.120 But I will say, and I know this is kind 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:46.840 of blasphemous. In the years since, I probably have listened 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:51.680 to the movie soundtrack more than the OBC. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.400 Yeah, no, I definitely listened to the movie soundtrack. The OBCR, 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:56.920 the OBCR. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.000 The movie son tract is good, the movie music is good. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:06.480 It is you know, Rosario Dawson. I love voices. I 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:11.000 love Daphne ruben Vega, who was the original Mimi. She 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.680 is iconic both in Rent and in that scene in 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.560 the first Sex in the City movie where she talks 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.280 to the girls in the bathroom during the auction. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:21.160 I just watched. 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.680 She was a smart girl until she fell in love. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.800 But Rosario Dawson kind of four plus four? 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.520 That yeah, wait, what's four plus four? Is this new slang? 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:38.320 My sisters said it over the weekend, and I'm now adopted. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:45.000 I'm so the way my eyes are rolling into my 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.600 skull right now, girl, that is It's fine. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.280 I've got a four plus four that shut up? 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.160 No, but you know that you're now going to say 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.600 it off as your own. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:56.320 No, I'm not. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.320 What's the marine? I did a mental song, the first 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:26.040 one to take Me Baby. That's actually why didn't I 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:27.640 I redact what I said earlier. 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:32.760 My true favorite song is take Me Baby or Lave 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:34.320 Me That song fucks. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:40.160 That song was created to be sung at karaoke by 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:45.040 people who are way too into singing it as happened 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:51.080 famously on an episode of Girls Yes This at Hannah's 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:56.080 birthday party when when Marnie tried to get her to 0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:00.360 perform it on stage and she didn't want to. Also, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:06.800 in the first season of Girls Showshana asks Marnie if 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.880 she's ever seen rent, and she says, of course, it's 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.479 the whole reason I moved to New York. That is 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:17.320 true for a lot of people, which is crazy because like, yes, 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:23.480 it does glamorize this experience of being like poor and 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.480 you know, oppressed living in New York City, but it's 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:32.679 also like not super It doesn't make it sound super appealing. No, 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:36.439 Like sure, lev bo M is a fun group number, 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:43.040 but you know the people are like killing dogs and die. 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.080 Paying rent and not paying rent. That's the whole premise 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:46.840 of the beginning. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.000 They they literally are like, we're not gonna pay rent, 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:50.840 and you're kind of like, okay. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.760 Okay, have you ever not paid rent somewhere you lived? 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.800 No, I did like dit a lease and left my 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:06.120 roommates add a listing with a lease under my name, 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.760 and it was just like just fill my room because 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.560 the management was unresponsive and just not helpful in doing 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:15.200 anything in terms of like getting next people in, they 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.760 like wouldn't it was whatever, we had negligent management. So 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.800 I paid rent, I found a subletter, and then I 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.399 moved on. But I found out that like months or 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.040 years later, my roommates did not pay that rent in 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.320 the final months because it was the pandemic, So that 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:37.280 might affect my credit score. Anyways, No, it's never happened, 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:42.040 but you probably have definitely squatted, maybe at least once. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:46.399 Yeah, I have once, not technically squatting, not squatting in 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.080 a way where the people I lived with and I said, 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:54.000 let squat, but in a way where I just was 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.960 very broke and did not pay a couple months of rent. 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.919 I briefly dated this guy who wait, oh wait, have 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.320 I told you about this guy that I dated who 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.200 co wrote musicals with his brother about the Egyptian Revolution. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.080 Let's why don't you just tell it again? 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.960 So I literally like started eating this guy super hot, 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.320 unfortunately very straight passing. I had no idea who was 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:20.280 gay until we were making out, and then we started 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.120 to date and I ended up not really liking him, 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.840 but I was between sublets and I didn't have a 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.679 place to stay from, so I dated him for another 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.320 month so that it crash in his Upper West Side 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:35.160 apartment that his parents paid for and it was worth it. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.800 And why did I bring that up? Oh? 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:46.440 Because I wasn't paying rent. You know what sucks? Rent cancer? 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.000 Also rent, rent sucks. 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:53.800 It has every sucked. Every month when my rent leaves 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:59.160 my bank account, a part of my soul leaves my body. 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.480 And can I be vulnerable? This year is the first 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.080 year since twenty eighteen where I've had trouble paying rent. 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:10.000 Like twenty eighteen, I was like starving freelancer, really having 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.280 trouble making ends, me digging deep into my savings, like 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.280 basically was saved by that job a out magazine. And 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:22.040 now I'm like kind of in the same spot. Rent 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:26.000 has really sucked the bone marrow out of my body. 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.760 And it's so expensive. Rose, your rent is really good. 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.560 Well it's about to be. It's starting next month. It's 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.400 going up two hundred dollars a month. 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:35.040 Which is not that bad. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:35.960 It's bad. 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:37.680 It's bad. It's bad, but it's. 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:42.680 Bad considering nothing has been improved about my apartment. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.399 Right, did you say that you never email them? I 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:46.760 never emailed them. You should email them. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.320 It's too late. It's too late. I actually still haven't 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.439 told them that I'm renewing my lease and sent the 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:54.680 extra two hundred dollars to add to my security post. 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:55.439 I should do that. 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:59.240 You should just not pay the rate increase. 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.880 No, I'm not gonna do that. Yeah, just because I'm 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.600 not the people in rent. That's the other Yeah, I 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:06.879 just what was the plant? 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.000 Like? What happens after you don't pay? Do you don't 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:09.520 pay rent? 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:10.560 You get evicted? 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.280 You get evicted? Do you have like squatters rights? What 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.160 are squatters right? I? 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:20.200 Look, I know during the pandemic there was a lot 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:25.200 of discussion about squatters rights and landlords. I never really 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:29.440 investigated it too deeply because I have an incredible fear 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.480 of authority and. 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.760 Right shockingly, even though you break every rule, Yeah. 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.159 But I'm but I also really like following the rules. 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:42.199 Yeah you do, so I don't. I've never been in 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:42.919 a situation. 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:44.640 You've never been in a situation. 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:51.320 I've never been in this situation. So, yeah, I don't 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:55.879 know what happens when you stop paying rent? You I 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:57.040 guess start singing. 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:58.560 I guess you start singing. 0:21:58.720 --> 0:21:59.520 You sing? 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:04.000 Well, that is the thing, rose, is that when you 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:08.600 cannot pay with money. You pay with art, beautiful, beautiful art. 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.240 And the landlords in rent they go, they look, they 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:14.160 took one look at Anthony Rap and they were like. 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.480 Your voice is so beautiful. Well, you don't have to 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:17.040 pay rent. 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:23.240 Because voice is not beautiful, but it's a pretty great. Wait. 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:28.120 Speaking of Anthony Rap, don't you have tea with him? Oh? 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:28.480 My god? 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:33.159 Do I have tea with Anthony Rap? Not anymore? But 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:34.760 one time? 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:36.400 Have you explored each other's bodies? 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:36.920 Yes? 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:41.480 No, no, have you explored each other's body? Addy addies. 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:43.200 He's not my type. 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:49.080 I don't go for guys that look like like target models, 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.280 like if you don't have any like tattoos or that's 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.879