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Speaker 1: Hey, want to welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlieb, and this

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Speaker 1: is all ball my story.

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Speaker 2: I guess my team has been in the news, so

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Speaker 2: why not do a podcast and drop it. The other

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Speaker 2: night we were playing Robert Morris, who's the defending league

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Speaker 2: and conference tournament champion in the Horizon League. We had

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Speaker 2: eleven point lead late in the game, two thirty eight

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Speaker 2: and lost in regulation. I mean it, it's remarkable, obviously

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Speaker 2: in not a good way.

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Speaker 1: And so when you're in this position, you're the head

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Speaker 1: coach and you.

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Speaker 2: Know your team is playing pretty well, it's pretty good team.

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Speaker 1: I guess in it.

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Speaker 2: In it, you're supposed to have the balance of hey,

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Speaker 2: we're still good. We just found a way to lose

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Speaker 2: the game we rightfully should have won. I guess my

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Speaker 2: issue is at one, I do think that, and I

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Speaker 2: think we're trying to find a level of respect from

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Speaker 2: everybody we play against, trying to earn that level of respect,

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Speaker 2: and the only way you get it is when you

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Speaker 2: actually win games. The Atta boys don't really matter, right,

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you played close. Nobody actually cares that way,

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Speaker 2: But you have to have the balance of yeah, we

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Speaker 2: are better, people do recognize it. And my thing is

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Speaker 2: that while we're pretty good right now, I think Robert

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Speaker 2: Morris is just going to get better and better and better.

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Speaker 2: I mean, all these teams are really well coached, and

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Speaker 1: So when you do have.

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Speaker 2: An opportunity and they don't shoot particularly well and you

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Speaker 2: our first Division One home game, I just those opportunities

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Speaker 2: have to learn one. We have to make better decision

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Speaker 2: as the coaches have I have to make better decisions

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Speaker 2: down the stretch. We have to put them in that

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like you watch the plays over and

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Speaker 2: you know we win the game. We're kind of holding

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Speaker 1: Now again it's on me.

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Speaker 2: I have Motawan in the game, but we were plus

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Speaker 2: tag him on roles, whereas other guys they don't tag

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Speaker 1: So maybe I shouldn't have had him in the game.

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Speaker 2: But Marcus, as a veteran and as a go to guy,

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Speaker 2: want to do. Okay, I want to play inside out.

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Speaker 2: I want to get layups, wide open threes, but only

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Speaker 2: We got to get back in transition. We got to

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Speaker 1: Just do the math.

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Speaker 2: If you make your free throws, you don't turn the

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Speaker 1: And then our.

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Speaker 2: Execution on our obs wasn't great against the press. And

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Speaker 2: you know, we got a ten second violation coming out

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Speaker 2: We only had six and then you know, we had

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Speaker 2: We got to keep the mop their legs as much

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Speaker 2: Late in the game. We got tired. We didn't execute.

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Speaker 1: And you can't do it.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't do it in private, let alone doing in public.

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Speaker 2: But it is amazing how I feel like people want

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Speaker 1: You know, I guess this is a pretty good forum

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Speaker 2: Myron Medcalf were three ESPN, he covers college basketball. He

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Speaker 1: Well, first, if we're going to be right, it was

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Speaker 2: And if you just read the headline, you would think

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Speaker 2: But you know else shouldn't have happened. Is Myer Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: I want to write a story about it. I said okay.

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Speaker 2: Instead, he sent me a text saying, did you address

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Speaker 2: it during the postgame press conference? And I said nope.

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Speaker 2: It's because nobody the postgame pressor was too soon.

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Speaker 1: That was my fault. I went there too soon.

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Speaker 2: I was still hadn't cooled down even though I talked

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Speaker 1: My point is that.

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Speaker 2: But it's not that hard to call me and if

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Speaker 2: But again, for me, as a professional broadcaster for years

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Speaker 1: And a half, got to learn from those things.

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Speaker 2: And you can't say anything that you can't assume.

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Speaker 2: You can answer any question any way you want. You

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Speaker 1: And the more you try and be honest with people, sometimes.

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Speaker 2: At backbars, it's like every coach you'll tell you don't

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Speaker 2: here's the honest opinion. Honest opinion was we blew it?

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Speaker 1: I blew it.

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Speaker 2: We changed our kind of end of game, end of

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Speaker 2: And that includes the bench overreacted and tried to coverage change,

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Speaker 2: But we didn't, and we lost, and now we play

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Speaker 2: personal self discipline that I've tried to have, and maybe

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Speaker 2: that's to win. Now, there are other talented players on

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Speaker 2: I think you're engaged in practice or if you're on

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Speaker 2: So I have to learn as a as a coach

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Speaker 2: And when I want to run something, and when you're

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Speaker 2: So that's my way of saying, I think we still

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Speaker 2: I also think that it's really interesting how many people

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Speaker 1: Granted, it was a standalone game on a night.

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Speaker 2: When there's you know, Cowboys versus Lions, pretty big football game,

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Speaker 2: but we were honestly one of the most watched basketball games.

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Speaker 1: So I'm enjoying this thing, man.

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Speaker 2: I'm enjoying learning as a human being, learning as a coach,

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Speaker 2: and helping these young men.

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Speaker 1: Figure out how we get to our goals.

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Speaker 2: And it's really cool to have super talented, experienced assistant

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Speaker 2: Last thing is this kind of state of college basketball.

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Speaker 2: And what all people should know, does Ben McCullum run

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Speaker 2: He's not won all those games at Division two. He's

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Speaker 2: Because the right guy gets that money and things I've

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Speaker 2: That's what determines whether you want to whether you lost,

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Speaker 2: But can you get him to play hard? Can you

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's hard when you give guys money, And a

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Speaker 2: In January, she better in February, and then in March

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Speaker 1: What you really got.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So that's my little dissertation on Kentucky. And again

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Speaker 1: We're like, man, that's a big payroll. One other thing.

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Speaker 2: I think It's really interesting that DeMarcus Cousins, and I've

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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: And again, this is where your own perspective is skewed

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Speaker 2: in many ways based upon where you are in life. Right,

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Speaker 2: Like DeMarcus Cousins, you know, basically was embarrassed as an

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Speaker 2: one year and when they lost, they lost in one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest upsets in college basketball, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 2: They lost to West Virginia, and I think that Sean

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Speaker 2: to West Virginia. When West Virginia went one through one,

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Speaker 1: Here's what I'll.

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Speaker 2: Say about notable successful alums and your frustration with a

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Speaker 2: basketball program. You are allowed to be frustrated. You're allowed,

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Speaker 2: and I think you're even allowed to voice that frustration.

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Speaker 2: But if you actually really want to help, that doesn't help.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't help. I'm not saying you can't do it.

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Speaker 2: You can do it, but I'm saying you shouldn't do

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Speaker 2: it because because it doesn't help, It just doesn't. All

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Speaker 2: that helps is hey man, that was a rough one.

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Speaker 2: What can I do as an alum? Call Mark Pope?

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Speaker 2: What can I do as an alum to help? You

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Speaker 2: need me to call one of these guys and tell them, hey, man, Like,

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Speaker 2: if you want to play in the league, it's about

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Speaker 2: playing hard. I mean, look at DeMarcus Cousins, who is

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Speaker 2: He's a way better human being and would be a

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Speaker 2: way better teammate now than he was when he was

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Speaker 2: in Sacramento. He was a nightmare in Sacramento. Everybody knows that.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not I'm not absolving him of that because it's,

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Speaker 2: you know, ten fifteen years removed. I'm just laying it

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Speaker 2: out as being honest, Like, hey, dude, you were not

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Speaker 2: a good teammate for a long long time, and here

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Speaker 2: you are being critical of a college basketball coach. Have

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Speaker 2: you been to practice? Have you talked to the coaches?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's going on there? And if you do,

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Speaker 2: do you want to be an agent of positive change

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Speaker 2: or do you simply want to pile on because it's

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Speaker 2: you want to be the coaches and the coach I

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Speaker 2: don't know. All I can tell you is that doesn't

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Speaker 2: help being critical. Like anybody can see you get forty

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Speaker 2: piece on national TV. Hey, thanks, appreciate the fact that

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Speaker 2: we didn't play nearly to the level of Kentucky basketball.

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Speaker 2: Got it, understand it. But if you want to help

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Speaker 2: help call the coach say hey man, I'm here to help.

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Speaker 2: I played, I love Kentucky. I just want to help

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Speaker 2: you get What can I do as a former All

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Speaker 2: Star that can help these guys understand what it's all about.

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Speaker 1: That's how alum can help.

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Speaker 2: That's how my Cordero Barkley is an alum of UWGB,

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Speaker 2: super successful businessman, great dude. When we talk about all

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Speaker 2: he ever ask is how can I help? Key for

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Speaker 2: psychs is our gm I keeper comes to practice and

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Speaker 2: all he ever asks is how can I help them? Like,

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Speaker 2: hey man, please talk to these guys about what it's

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Speaker 2: all about. Talk to my go to guys about the

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Speaker 2: alpha mentality you played with, the toughness you played with.

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Speaker 2: Talk to the other guys about you know, how you

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Speaker 2: keep working, how you keep improving.

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Speaker 1: So for especially like fans, you can't control fans are

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Speaker 1: who they are. They support, they love, They only want

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Speaker 1: to be good.

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Speaker 2: They're the ones that take to social media, overreact when

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Speaker 2: you win, overreact when you lose.

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Speaker 1: Totally understand that.

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Speaker 2: But if you're a lum or, you're a connected guy

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Speaker 2: going to social media and pointing out when something shitty,

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Speaker 2: that that does no good. That's dog pileyon and that

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Speaker 2: makes it even worse and even harder. If you actually

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Speaker 2: want to help, then help. And the way you can

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Speaker 2: help is call the coaches and go hey man, or

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Speaker 2: just text them what can I do?

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like the product either, but I know you've

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Speaker 2: got a good team there, so tell me how I

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Speaker 2: can help you.

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Speaker 1: That's it for All Ball. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you check out the radio show every day

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