1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Every day up waiting, click your ass up. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 3: You don't finished for y'all. 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Dunk Morning. 5 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 4: Everybody is DJ n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 4: we are the Breakfast Club. Law La Rosa is here 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 4: as well. 8 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: We got some special guests. 9 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: In the building. 10 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, we got Coach k who's been up here 11 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 4: several times, and we got the brother Mel Carter. 12 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: Welcome, thank you, thank you. This my first time, the 13 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: first time here. 14 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 4: Now, if they don't know who you are, you want 15 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 4: to break down who you are and what you've done 16 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 4: in this industry. 17 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Me ah man, long time coming. I did music for 18 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: twenty years, and ten of it for free, and then 19 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: I got paid for the other And I used to 20 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: be the senior vice president of A and R Republic Records, 21 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: went over to Warner after that for three years, and 22 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: I just left Warner like it's the first time saying it. 23 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm leaving Warner. Wow. Why why when you starting your 24 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: only thing? I saw right starting I started signing different 25 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: second in the State. Second State was a joint venture Warner. 26 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: I was doing that in control for the n R 27 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: team and starting sound in the Stream of Space. I 28 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: started managing this kid named Rod. He just did uh 29 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: Sabatine and the American Dream Mall. He did thirty days, 30 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: thirty nights, lived there. I just and I just really 31 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 2: liked that space. So I'm doing that and just focus 32 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: on these restaurants for real, for a little bit of 33 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: real estate, like you you know what I'm saying. But 34 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: that's really it. It's focus on this new company and 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: focus on hopefully turning these restaurants into a hundred restaurants 36 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: in the next five years. Said A and R. I'm sorry, 37 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: but you said A and R. Yeah right. 38 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: I feel like A and R doesn't exist anymore. And 39 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: both of you brothers came from a place where y'all 40 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: were strong and rs for your artists. Does A and 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: R exist anymore? 42 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Do we need A and RS? 43 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: Because it seems like the music is just getting trashed. 44 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: There's no guidance. 45 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: I think we need A and R. That's the problem. Yep. 46 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: You know, they got rid of the artists of Element 47 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: and started everybody started treating the music like stockbrokers, you 48 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and chasing the number number number, 49 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: and you know, and that became now labels. I should 50 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 3: say chase songs instead of building and developed artists. 51 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 52 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: Once you build it, you build, you build an artist, 53 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: it turns into a brand. And you know that's how 54 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: you know, we and q see like I studied, We 55 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: studied the Motowns and you know the Russells and you 56 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: know those labels. And I think it needs to come back. 57 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: I think that's the problem. It's oversaturated and nobody's like 58 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: building stars. 59 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 4: Now you don't know who coach K is. Coach K 60 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: first time I met a music with g Z then 61 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: one of the creators and owners of QC that that 62 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 4: brought all the sluice Yati Gucci. He did Gucci back 63 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: in the day, but he bought Uh City girls, migos, 64 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 4: I mean just a host of them. But they actually 65 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: built from the ground up. These artists didn't have hits 66 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: at the time. You guys worked and created the hits 67 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: and created what ya wanted to do, which we don't 68 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 4: see anymore. Is that the reason why you feel feel. 69 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: Like you know, one of the things that got me 70 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: and I love Republic record shout out to Manti and Avery, 71 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: but it became this like you don't really need a 72 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: and R no more. You know how many kids I 73 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: flew to New York City because they had a song 74 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: that was trending, and by day three the song was 75 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: going down and I had to just explain to them, 76 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: we don't want to do the deal no more, you 77 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So it's like you need A 78 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: and R. But it's such a research game now that 79 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to be at A and R 80 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: because it's like you could have an artist that's the best, 81 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: and you like you want to build them up, but 82 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: a kid from you know, Michigan, got something that's streaming. 83 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: They don't even have a song as they go after it. 84 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: So like that's why mid Coach and like QC and 85 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: like the last of that that's left for real, for real, 86 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: that's really in our it's a dude name top dog. 87 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: They really still building artists, you know what I'm saying, 88 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: instead of just like chasing what's moving and it works. 89 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: And it's kind of like, I guess it could be 90 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: a bit of a better business model because you could 91 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: develop an act and they don't work. But a lot 92 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 2: of this shit that just start trending, they don't really 93 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: go nowhere. 94 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: Also feel like you got to have those boutique labels 95 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: like the QC. You need it, like the Top Dogs, 96 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: because reality is y'all niggas care as they simply just 97 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: don't care. I look at like some of the last 98 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: few releases that came out from people did fantastic ab 99 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: Offste fantastic album, Tianna Taylor fantastic album. 100 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: But they don't even feel like a Vince. 101 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: They feel like somebody just put it out there and 102 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: did the minimal amount of work possible and now what. 103 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: But think about it, right, every artist that's big, let's 104 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: let's say the Top two, Drake, Ken, Drick, Little Baby, 105 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: every one of these acts came from a joint venture. 106 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: So they had somebody in the middle, like a coach 107 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: who cared, you know what I'm saying, Like TV who 108 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: cared cash money. They had somebody who sat between the 109 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: label it was like, Yo, we ain't gonna do that. 110 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna do this. Like every success in Republic except 111 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: for Po Malone, it's through a joint venture, Wayne Nikki, 112 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: even Taylor. It's all joint ventures with somebody who was 113 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: standing in the middle, who cared, you know what I'm saying. 114 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: So you need somebody who cared. Can we drop a 115 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: bomb for a little baby? Man? 116 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: Little baby sells so many goddamn records, and it's so 117 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 4: quiet about he. He's like diamond twice, right, diamond twice, 118 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: and nobody talks about it. Is insane. You telling me 119 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: the numbers earlier. 120 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 5: I was pulling it up. 121 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 6: I saw he I think it was let me, let 122 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 6: me get it right. So my turn is on Billboards. 123 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 6: He's number one of the bill Boards twenty the top 124 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 6: R and B and hip hop albums of the twenty 125 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 6: first century. 126 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 5: When you saw that, how did you feel about it? 127 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: I mean I felt I felt really good. But you know, 128 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: when we was making that album, I knew it was special, 129 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And what made it so 130 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: special is when the album dropped. It dropped February twenty twenty, 131 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: two weeks two weeks later, like the middle of February, 132 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: because like two weeks later the world crash, you know 133 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And it was it was like it 134 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: was really it was really a messed up time because 135 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: he didn't really get to go tour that album because 136 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 3: everybody was down for a year and a half. Basically, 137 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, but it stood a test 138 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 3: of time up where like it was like every song 139 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: I was like damn, damn, damn, and it just kept 140 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 3: going to the point like right now like freestyle, you know, 141 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: mm hmm. 142 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: It seven years later, it's just it was like that's 143 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: his dreams and nightmare. 144 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah Jesus, but yeah, it's it's you know, it's it's 145 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: a really good feeling. 146 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: It's a really good feeling. 147 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: That body of work was a well put body of work, 148 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and had been developed over time, 149 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: and you know, it's a good feeling. 150 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: Did you think that he was gonna come with you know, 151 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: basically the soundtrack for that year with a song like 152 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: the Bigger Picture. When you think of all the artist 153 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: that you thought was gonna come and represent with music, 154 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: Little Baby was not on my Bengo car to come 155 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: with the record. 156 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: You know what. It's crazy, you know what I'm saying. 157 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: Like he went and I remember him doing a Bigger Picture, 158 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: you know, I remember he called us, was like, yeah, 159 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this record, you know what I'm saying. 160 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: He played it, I was like, oh man, this is 161 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: about to change the game. He's like he said me 162 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: and Pete down and say, hey, man, listen, I don't 163 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: want this to sit on my album. I want to 164 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: sit on I wanted to sit alone. I don't want 165 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: to make the money from this album. You know what 166 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 167 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: Because everybody kept. 168 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: You need to speak up, you need to speak up, 169 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: you need to speak up, because he's big in the 170 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: community and they know he had a voice, you know, 171 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: talk to the kids. He was like, I want this song, 172 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: and we had to go to the label. He was like, 173 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: I want this song all the money that it generates. 174 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: I want this song that money. I wanted to go 175 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: to charities, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, criminal justice reform, yeah, everything, 176 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: you know. And to go to the label like hey, 177 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: this is what we want to do. And they was like, yeah, 178 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But he was like I 179 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: don't even you know, Like that's how he because everybody's like, 180 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: we need you come Marsh, we need to come speak 181 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: He went and he cut the record. He's like, this 182 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: is how I want to get my point across. He's 183 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: very vulnerable on the record, Like I hadn't heard him 184 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: that vulnerable. You know what I'm saying and let it 185 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: out and then we gave it to the world and boom. 186 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: So y'all ain't make no money off that record. Nah, 187 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: we donated it. 188 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 5: Point the number was at like one point five million, Like, 189 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 5: where is it now? 190 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: You got that many? 191 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 6: I don't think people understand the impact of that song 192 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 6: and what that means to just give that all to 193 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 6: you know, a great thing he did, but that's a 194 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 6: huge amount of money. 195 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: And so even even that year it got nominated for 196 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: Grammys and he got to performed Grammys, was like it 197 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: was still closed, you know what I'm saying, Like he 198 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: had a big performance, but you know, and really get 199 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: to get the magic of what it really was. 200 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 201 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 4: So now you guys have jumped in and jumped into 202 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 4: the fast food spot. 203 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: Yes. 204 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: Crazy thing about the fast food spot is, you know, 205 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 4: as a kid, fast food was cheap. 206 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: Right. 207 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: You can go there and you can get two ninety 208 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 4: nine mel and you know, you walk out with fries, 209 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 4: food and a drink. The other day I went there, 210 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: it was like fifteen dollars and I'm like, this ain't 211 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: cheap no more. 212 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: I mean, but the coke was twenty five cents back 213 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: in the day. 214 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: I'm not that old, wasn't It wasn't. 215 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: I'm around the fifty cent I remember that time. I 216 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: was there for twenty five. 217 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: It was twenty five, thirty five, and fifty fifty five. 218 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: I mean talking about when I was like, I'm a 219 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: little older than that. A couple. 220 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 4: Let's talk about what you know, why you jumped into 221 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: the bow jingles franchising and how y'all how'd y'all get 222 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: together to do it? 223 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: So so, me and Mail met twelve years ago music. 224 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 3: We met, you know, on some music stuff. You know 225 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We became super good friends. My brother, 226 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: you know, he was coming up in the business, and 227 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 3: it's wild because we was back in the green and 228 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: we were just talking like damn, it's twelve years ago. 229 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: I literally was starting QC when me. 230 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 2: And him met. You know what I'm saying. I was 231 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: I got this idea. You know. 232 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: He had an artist from Brooklyn he was doing and 233 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: he was like, man, I need your help. I was like, 234 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: we're gonna help each other. You see what I'm saying. 235 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: Because I was at the I was doing a come 236 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 3: up here. I'm leaving management, well, still managing, but was 237 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: doubling down on you know, starting a label man, because 238 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: you know, you know, managing artists sometimes, you know, that's. 239 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: When you gave me that advice. I was like, Bro, 240 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: like you knows, yeah. 241 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: I was like, you got to own an IP, especially 242 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: when you're a manager that an rs and develops you 243 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, you're 244 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: managing these artists, you developing a IP and you creating 245 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: their whole business. But then you know, you look back five, six, seven, 246 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: ten years You're like, damn, I've had ownership. They can 247 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: exactly you know what I'm saying, they can fire you. 248 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: So that's when we met, right then. I told him 249 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: that because I was going all in on the artists. 250 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: I say, bro, make sure you you know what I mean. 251 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: You covered you know what I'm saying. But we met, 252 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 3: and uh we we had a really good bond. 253 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: You know. It's a good good brother. 254 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: And what about four maybe four years ago, five years ago? Male, 255 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: start making this moves, you know what I'm saying in 256 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: New York, like meeting a lot of people and doing things. 257 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, he was like, Yo, when I find something, 258 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because you was all you 259 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: always kept it real with me, you know, like even 260 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: when he went to go get a job, he was like, y'all, 261 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: I need you to call these folks and tell them 262 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: this thing. 263 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: It's real, you know. But you know, once I find something, 264 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull you in. Called me. 265 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: He was like, man, what you know about bow Jangles. 266 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, that's crazy. I went to school 267 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 3: in Raleigh, North Carolina. You know what I'm saying. I 268 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: played basketball at Saint Augustine. Bo Jangles kept. 269 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: Me alive, berry biscuit, berry biscuit. 270 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: And kept me alive. You know what I'm saying, Like 271 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: gate that ship. So I was and I never even 272 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: heard of bo Jangles coming from Indianapolis, Indiana, where I'm from. 273 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: I got down there. 274 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: I was like the thing and it was two minutes 275 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: from my campus, you know. So when they called me 276 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: with the opportunity, I was like, hell, yeah, I men. 277 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I was like, what we 278 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 3: can do? What I was like, I'm in. He's like 279 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: all right, let me let me, you know, go center 280 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: down and really research and find out everything because I 281 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: know you're busy, you know what I'm saying. And when 282 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: I get everything from all the information and I'm gonna 283 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: put it in front of you. Here we are. 284 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny how that opportunity came to 285 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: me is having the right mentors, you know what I'm saying. 286 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: The network and doy named Mike Novgrads who m Dave Barry. 287 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: I got a podcast for them based on business. It's 288 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: called Business Untitled, and uh, they were actually going to 289 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: I mean whatever it's out there now. They were going 290 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: to buy pop pods and they ended up that fell 291 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: through and they bought both Jangles because they felt like 292 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: it was the next best brand. And that's how the 293 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: opportunity came about. And I just started really looking into 294 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: the brand. I always wanted to own something and like 295 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: like as a kid like man, it'd be cooler on McDonald's, 296 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And it came out. We 297 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: end up buying raised twenty five million dollars, bought seventeen 298 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: bow Jangles and now grew it to twenty eight, opening 299 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: another two now opening four this year. Congratulations twenty eight 300 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: currently operating. Yeah, seventeen in South Carolina. We opened in 301 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: the first one in Florence that's band Wine and one 302 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: in UGA on the campus that do band wine first 303 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: bow Jangles ever wine. 304 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: So being one so you can go there, you can 305 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: get go there, get you. 306 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: Them. 307 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. But you know, like when I tell 308 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: this story, like I'm more involved than coach, you know 309 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because coaches running the whole entire label. 310 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: I'm more run this. It's it wasn't easy to get 311 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: to this these you know what I'm saying. The first 312 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: year we bought it, the EBITDA which is the profit 313 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: was at two point five million dollars when we bought it, 314 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: COVID hit stores closed down. We was getting this crazy 315 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: thing that was happening in with the employees. I don't 316 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: know if you remember the government, if you had an 317 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: unemployment they was giving you four hundred dollars on your 318 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: check if you left. So we was getting employees that 319 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: worked for two weeks quit get our five hundred from 320 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: unemployment and the government gave him four hundred extra. So 321 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: we had so much turnover. Now we got over a 322 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: thousand employees, which eighty percent of them is black, you 323 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, And like we was getting two 324 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: hundred people turning over. Then we had to shut down stores. 325 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: So the ib and I went from like two point 326 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: five million to like a million eight which that trips 327 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: every alarm with the bank. So it was like, oh 328 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: my god, we just like dropped the ball on this. 329 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: Had the restructure, had a bad partner coach you want 330 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: me about. We got rid of him and our restructure, 331 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: hired a guy named Rob who's the CEO of the company. 332 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: A CFO read Robin, and restructure the management team, and 333 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: you know, thank god, today the business is we're doing 334 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: seven point nine million dollars in even out this year, 335 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: on track to do nine point something million next year. 336 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: Every year since since the fall, revenue increase. 337 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: So you know, but I say that to say, like 338 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: being an entrepreneur, man, I always tell people like it's 339 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: eighty percent headaches, it's eighty percent stress, but that twenty 340 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: percent be really worth it. You know what I'm saying, 341 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: what's the. 342 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: Biggest obstacles you guys face? 343 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 4: Because you hear all the time tariffs is affecting this, 344 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 4: or this is affecting the farm life. You know, people 345 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: don't want this or they want this, So what is 346 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: the biggest obstacles you guys had to face in this part? 347 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: I mean and and this the tariffs didn't really affect 348 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: us that much, you know what I'm saying. But like 349 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: the biggest obstacles I had to face, me and Coach 350 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: had to face was getting the management team right, people working. 351 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Getting people working right in 352 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: the business. You know what I'm saying, it's getting the 353 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: management right. When you got we got almost we probably 354 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: got eleven hundred employees. You know, we done haved fights 355 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: at the store. You see all that type of shit 356 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: like and you really be like, please don't be my 357 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: store because you get sued. You know what I'm saying. 358 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: But I tell you one of the great moments I 359 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: had when you know, and it happens a lot, but 360 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: this was the first great moment I had. You know, 361 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: I have to go check out the store. So I 362 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: went somewhere in South Carolina and they got the store 363 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: pretty nice ready. And you know, we hire a lot 364 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: of X cons. We give second chances, like just people 365 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: like us. I'm a high school dropout kicked out, so 366 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: we hire people like ourselves that just we want to 367 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: give opportunities too. And I went there and they had 368 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: this store like super ready. They ain't know what I 369 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: look like. And this one dude he came up to me. 370 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: He had just came out like maybe a year ago, 371 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: and he been working and he still works there. I 372 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: can't remember his name. And he was like, man, you know, 373 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: I thought Coach K was the guy from Duke That's 374 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: what he said. And he said, and they told me 375 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: the boss, the other boss was coming from New York. Man. 376 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: We was scared. We was like, we thought it was like, 377 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: you know, a white corporate guy like you like me. 378 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, nigga, I'm just like you. Like 379 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: you don't even understand how much I'm like you. And 380 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: he gave me a hug, you know what I'm saying, 381 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: and he was like, man, it's just good to see this, 382 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I was like, Yo, 383 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: if I could do this, you could really do this 384 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: because I had no I don't even know how I 385 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: did this. I just did it with God, you know 386 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Did it with God? Did it with Coach, 387 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: had the right friends, the right mentors, and like networking 388 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: is everything, and like, you know, you could be a 389 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: good networker, but if you're only networking in Flatbush, you 390 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: only gonna meet people from Flatbush, you know what I'm saying. 391 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: So you got to get outside your comfort zone and 392 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: really like network with people like yourself, people like you know, 393 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: I hired you for a party, like fifteen years ago. 394 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: I was throwing events in the live you remember that 395 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: on Fulton Brooklyn in Brooklyn, So I was charging He 396 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: charged me like forty grand back then. No, I can't remember, 397 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: but you know so I've just been like that working 398 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: my whole life. And I don't treat networking as like 399 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: I want a network with people that I feel I 400 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: could be friends with. You know what I'm saying. I'm 401 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: way past that stage where I gotta like be around 402 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: somebody I don't like just to make it make something happen. 403 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: So like coach my brother, we're gonna through both Jangles together, 404 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So for kids, man, it 405 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: ain't easy. It's really really really hard. Every day it 406 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: feel like And I'm sure y'all know that I heard 407 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: you got a couple of Yeah, me and my wife 408 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: we got two. 409 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: We bought six, but we got two that's are currently 410 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: operating in South Carolina. That's Walter brother Crystal Crystals. What 411 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: it's like, uh yeah, like sliders. Yeah, we should we 412 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: should talk on that, you know what I'm saying. 413 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: And because we got a lot of is like in 414 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: both we can do we can do burgers, we can't 415 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: do chicken. So it works perfectly. So we could definitely 416 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: have a conversation with congrats on that. 417 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 6: Is there a certain area, like location, like in the 418 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 6: South or wherever that you see that your businesses work 419 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 6: better than others. 420 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: So, uh, the Carolinas number one, like South, both Jangles, 421 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like they just they bringing 422 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: boat Jangles to New York right now, and they offered 423 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: me the opportunity to do it, and I think it's 424 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: gonna do great, But I say, you know, I'm not 425 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: rich enough to do that. Like I'm gonna lest somebody 426 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: else take the chance, see how it goes, and then 427 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: do it. Because New York, the labor is real high, 428 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: the rent is real high, but the volume is real 429 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: high too. So me and Coach looked at it and say, 430 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: you know what, We'll sit these first five out, let 431 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: somebody else do it and see how it go. But 432 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: they coming to New York. But like for Both Jangles, 433 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: l A two, Yeah, why the Carolina's doing. I mean, 434 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: Bojangles is just religion in the Carolinas, Like you know 435 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I never really heard of the brand 436 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: until my friends bought it and I really started digging 437 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: into it. But like they don't want to hear nothing 438 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: but bo Jangles. So it's like Bojangles is I mean, 439 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: you know, it's religion. It's like it's like Chick fil 440 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 2: A in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying. 441 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: So I went to school, I'm from Indianapolis. Man, I 442 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: never even heard of bout James. When I got down 443 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: to North Carolina. That was like that was it with 444 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: no KFC. You know what I'm saying. I mean literally 445 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: it was KFC. It was it was. It was churches, right, Pope's. 446 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: I don't even think it was n rally yet, you 447 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Pope's wasn't even there, but it 448 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: was churches KFC. Right, I mean literally right across the 449 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: street from each other, man bow Jangles line State. I'm 450 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: talking about booked for real. 451 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: Man, that Chicken fil A biscuit with some egg on it, man, 452 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: and with a bowlberry biscuit and then big ass hash brown. 453 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: Oh my God, no biscuits beat us bro I don't 454 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: think it's the best basket in the game for real. 455 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: FA I agree, So, yes, the Carolina is as strong 456 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: anywhere in the South they got. I think they got 457 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: a thousand locations all together, and it's strongly in the South. 458 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: They starting to move up this side now and I'm 459 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: gonna see how that go. But it's a really good brand. 460 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: The food is good. 461 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm actually happy it's not in New York because I 462 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: would eat it every day. You know what I'm saying. 463 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: People who want a franchise, does it make sense to 464 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: only own one franchise if you don't have enough capital 465 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: to buy you know, several of them. 466 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: It do make sense if you are going to work 467 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: and operate it yourself every day, because we don't operate it. 468 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: We there managing partners. You know what I'm saying. We 469 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: got it. Like I said, a CEO is great CFO 470 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: and a thousand other people under them. So that's why 471 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: I got the ability to be in New York. Coach 472 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: got the ability to be in Atlanta and run this shit. 473 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 2: But it makes sense if you are going to run it, 474 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: because if the banks he run it and you're making money, 475 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: They're going to that money to you, and well, a 476 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: strong brand like a Bojangles, you may only have to 477 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: put thirty percent down, you know what I'm saying. And 478 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: if they see you growing and you know the business, 479 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: it make a lot of sense. 480 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: So do you leave music at all now? Like use 481 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 4: a f This music thing now too much of a 482 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: headache and I'm just going to stay as a nah. 483 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: For me, I love music, I really really do. But 484 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: more than anything, like while I'm going into this streaming 485 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: world is because I find so much. I was a 486 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: youth once, you know what I'm saying, and I find 487 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: so much Like you learn so much from them, you 488 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I want to stay part 489 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: of that world where you keep learning, you know. So 490 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: for me, this is how I really did bow Jangles 491 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: and real estay in a few different things because my 492 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: dream coming up was to be Dame Dash jay Z. 493 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: You know those guys inspired me coming up. Coach K. Now, 494 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 2: I never made it to where Coach K is in music, 495 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: and I'm okay with that, but I was like, you 496 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: know what, I am making really good money of deals, 497 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: made some money. I need to diversify and make sure. 498 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: Even if I don't hit that success in music, which 499 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 2: is my number one passion, I might have thirty two 500 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: bow Jangles restaurants. You know what I'm saying, I'll still 501 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: be able to feed my family. I still have a 502 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 2: couple of buildings. I still you know, so like invest 503 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: in Whoop and different things that I did, And that's 504 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: why we did the podcast because I was like, I 505 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: got I met these two guys, Mike Novograts and Dave Barry, 506 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: who are very very successful guys. But and Coach knows 507 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: them well. We all brothers, you know what I'm saying. 508 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: They Mike is worth a lot, Coach is worth a lot. 509 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean, Dave's worth a lot. But more than anything. 510 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: That's been my college for the last lot. Highest education 511 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: I had in a real way is fifteen years old, 512 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I learned so much 513 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: from them. Of like, if you focus on one thing 514 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: and you want it, and you make other money, put 515 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: it into other things and almost forget about it, you 516 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I got a lot of 517 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: opportunity used to invest in a lot of different things 518 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: because of networking and meeting people and just being genuine 519 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: so like I love music, it's my passion. I didn't 520 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 2: get the success that coach got, you know what I'm saying. So, 521 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: but I wasn't gonna chase that for the rest of 522 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 2: my life. What about you, coach? 523 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 4: You are dealing with all this and attitudes, and I'm 524 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 4: stealing it, man. 525 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 3: I mean it's had I and I wake up some 526 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 3: days like I hate this shit. 527 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 4: But two of your groups don't air with each other, 528 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: and then they get back together, then they don't. 529 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: Mess with I'm a creative at heart, man, Like, like 530 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: even building a business, I never did it for the money. Man, 531 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I just I'm a creative 532 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: and I want to be the best, you know what 533 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I'm always I was always chasing that, 534 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: you know, like trying to be the best, you know 535 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So with that, you know, you do 536 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: good work, keep your head down, keep your face clean. 537 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: You know. 538 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 3: Eventually, you know, the finances came. But even with that, man, 539 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: I was like, shit, I got stuck to versifying my 540 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: portfolio business too, you know. So you know, when this 541 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: opportunity came, I was like hell yeah, And like he said, 542 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: like Mike and Dave, his brother. He introduced me to them. 543 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: I met them, and they's some good guys that like 544 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: just really gives us really good game and you know, 545 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: like being in school, you know, and a lot of 546 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: opportunities that have came from that. But uh, yeah, I'm 547 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: still in music, man, Like I still love it. 548 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: You know. 549 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 4: Who's on QC now? 550 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: You know, but before you said, there's a lot of 551 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: people who thought that y'all y'all back the way after that, yeah, 552 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: was like, no, we're good. 553 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: Ah, hell no, we didn't. We actually doubling down. And 554 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: you know what, just the business shifted. Like I've been 555 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: in this business twenty eight years now, the music business, 556 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 3: I don't watched this ship shift so many times and 557 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: you know about every ten years. It's a real shift 558 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: that happened, you know what I'm saying. And we just 559 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: saw that. We're going through it right now, and you know, 560 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: we got some new young talent that we're developing that's 561 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 3: super excited about. But to answer your question, who's still 562 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: on QC? A Baby still on QC, Yachdy is still 563 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: on QC. JT is still on from from the old 564 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: you know, j T still on QC. Quavo still on QC, 565 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: All Set still on QC. You know what I'm saying. 566 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 3: So everybody's still there and building, and then it's it's new. 567 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: You know, we got new talent that we're developing, you 568 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 569 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I love offset new album, man, but I 570 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: just feel like it should be bigger. Like I really 571 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: feel like I don't even know who's design to you 572 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: see and who motown multime capital. 573 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: Somebody got to be doing. You know, it's still a weekend. 574 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: It's only a week, man. 575 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 6: It feels like nobody's been out for a little second. 576 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 5: I feel like. 577 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: I didn't realize it's only a week. Gave me too 578 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: because people really starting to talk. 579 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: About it a lot now the label lying lay will 580 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: be like, it's not about the first week, Yes it is, y'all, 581 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: don't do nothing for. 582 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 4: Feels like his album was out for a while because 583 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 4: we've been talking about it. 584 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: Maybe we're the first week. It is about the first week, 585 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: but that we got to get off of that, you 586 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Because that's the thing, like these 587 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 3: bodies of work have, it's really good music on there, 588 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 3: and we sold mind fucked, you know what, I'm saying, 589 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 3: and custom what the first week numbers look like. So 590 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 3: if a first week number come out and it's low, 591 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: then we forgot about it. Let's go to the next one. 592 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 3: And that's that's really messed up, because these projects really 593 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 3: are good, you know what I'm saying. 594 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: So I just want to leave that thing. You know. 595 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 4: Another problem too is and I hate to say it, 596 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: but I feel like music comes so fast right something saturated. 597 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: Right now. I'm still on Clips. 598 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 4: Album and I'm still on Offset album. I didn't really 599 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 4: get a chance to dive in the Jit album, you know. 600 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: What I'm sat get a chance. It's crazy. Somebody told 601 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: me it's difficult. You know. 602 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: It's just a lot of music out there, a lot 603 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 3: of music to consume. Yeah, I remember like one week 604 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 3: it was like it was it was like so many 605 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: albums campus like Clips and ray Kwan And then I 606 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: was like, whoa, you know what I'm saying. But I 607 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: was happy because I'm a purist, you know what I'm saying. 608 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 3: So when these the Clips and the ray Kwan's and 609 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 3: then I look the Burning Boy drop. You know what 610 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Fucking Justin Bieber dropped it. I never listened 611 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: to it justin Bibro. The albums incredible, you know what 612 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like all these records, and I was just 613 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: like I was kind of overwhelmed, you know what I'm saying, 614 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: the same way, you know, but I think it's just 615 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: man a lot. 616 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: You know shit. 617 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: Well they say two hundred and fifty thousand records come 618 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: a day, you know what I'm saying. 619 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: Like, it's just crazy, you know what I'm saying. So 620 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: I want to I want to ask both of. 621 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: Y'all something like how important is regional identity when you're 622 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: developing a global stuff. 623 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: It's really important, I think super important. That's the most 624 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: important thing. And I think streaming messed that up, you 625 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Where you know, you own where 626 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: you're from, you know, and you become that you know, 627 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: like different slangs come from different places, and that's what 628 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 3: makes shit so great. But when the streaming happened, it 629 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 3: was just hit the button. It was everywhere, so you 630 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: you felt like you didn't have to like own your 631 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 632 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: And I think we got to get back to that. 633 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying That this West Coast because 634 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: it was a West coast, and it was a South coast. 635 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: It was the south and the East coast the east 636 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: and everybody had their own identity. And now it's just 637 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: kind of like you can't even tell no more, you 638 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, And that kind of like messed 639 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: things up. 640 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: But I think we're gonna get back to it. 641 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 5: How everything's gonna blended. 642 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard, you know. I think I don't know. 643 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 4: See West Coast and they got their old like they 644 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: stayed by their sound. Then they didn't stay away. They 645 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: did sound, but like there's no New York sound anymore. 646 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 4: There's no the like before there was a boombap, you 647 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 4: knew what New York was. Now it's like you hear 648 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: all this hip like where's he from? 649 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: That's a fact. 650 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 5: You don't feel like Sexy Drill is the New York 651 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 5: son it is. 652 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: But it's like, how big is it getting? You know 653 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's not like you know it's it's 654 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: it's I don't know how big it could go hopefully somebody, 655 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: but it's for music for me too. One of the things, 656 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: one of the main reasons is that I really loved 657 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: this whole streaming culture is that they really I don't 658 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: know if I can say this, but I keep saying it. 659 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: They really like little niggas from the street. You know 660 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I'm I'm I'm really like a guy 661 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: from the street. Like I I everything you could think of. 662 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: I went through. You know what I'm saying. I've been shot. 663 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: I've been I've been through a lot of stuff, and 664 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: like that was one of the things for me with music. 665 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: I was just getting burnt out of you know, artists 666 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: I done came through that got murdered, like King Vonn 667 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: and them. I didn't really even know them. I knew 668 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: his manager. I was in the studio with them trying 669 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: to sign him the night before all of that happened. Wow. 670 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: And then the next day four of the guys or 671 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: three of the guys I met in the studio got murdered. 672 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: So I just was like, you know, coming up and 673 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: trying to like do something different and keep running into 674 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: like this violence in music, and like for music, you 675 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: gotta be tough. It was a rap in here. You 676 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: gotta be here with seven niggas, and they gotta be tough, 677 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: even if it ain't nothing to be tough about. So 678 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: for me watching this streaming culture and watching these content 679 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: creators who talk the same, who just as cool, but 680 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: they'll tell you straight up, bro, we're not into that 681 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: violent shit. For me, that just feel good to be 682 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: a part of and I hope it last. And that's 683 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: the drill music. Like you know, I love New York, 684 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: but the drill music, like you gotta be or act 685 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: violent or you gotta you know what I'm saying, We 686 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: gotta be dog for it to work. So it's like 687 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 2: that was another thing that for me I straight away 688 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 2: because it was just like, damn, I'm almost forty. I'm like, 689 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm kind of cool on that, and I don't want 690 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: the kids to be on that no more. 691 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: Were a little hard on the drill artist though. We 692 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: grew up on trap, you know what I'm saying. You know, 693 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: we grew up on crunk. Like the New York music 694 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: were super gangster and violence. We're a little bit hard 695 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: on drill artists, like like that wasn't our era. 696 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: Too, No, no, it was. 697 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: But it's just so what I'm saying is I'm gonna 698 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: come out shooting it, killing too. 699 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: It's like we're just old enough. Yeah, But you know, 700 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: and this is the thing, right, I definitely or to 701 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: anybody who's trying to make it. I'm just saying, if 702 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: I see a way where I could get kids to 703 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: like understand they can make it without doing that, I 704 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: want to support me. I want to put myself more 705 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: behind that because I know what it feels like to 706 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: be shot in the face. I know what it feels 707 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: like to go through all that. I just my cousins. 708 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: Shout out to my cousin. He just died three weeks ago, 709 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: he got murdered. So it's like I got over three 710 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: hundred friends that's been throughout my life. So it's just like, yeah, 711 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: I supported it, and it's part of our DNA because 712 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: we grew up like almost like real glorifying violence. Absolutely, 713 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: I see a way that I'm like, you know what, 714 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: these kids ain't really doing that. Let me get behind 715 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: that and see if I could kind of guide them. 716 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 4: I think it's a matter of and you know, you 717 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 4: felt like people lived that life right And nowadays I 718 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: was watching some of you the kids like, nah, just 719 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 4: make it up. 720 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah I never shot a gun. I just make it. 721 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: Most of them make it up, bro. Like man, it's 722 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: just like when trap music. We came like you said, 723 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: we came up on trap music. Let's let's be clear. 724 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 3: Ice is Ice preaching this all the time. My artists 725 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: come to me. I'm like, bro, this is not real. 726 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I remember this one. I 727 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 3: ain't gonna say no name but me in the studio 728 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: when we first started QC. 729 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: Run off on the plug. 730 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: This is that that that? You know what I'm saying? 731 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: And they said something. I said, brow May Grabs is 732 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: in the quilo right. He was just looking. I said, 733 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 3: why are you talking about this real? 734 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: No, but it's just you know what I mean. Like, 735 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: but that was different compared to what's happening right now 736 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: with the drill Ship. And again, I love, I support you. 737 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: Gotta make your living, you know what I'm saying. You 738 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: gotta get your mom's out of the projects. You got 739 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: whatever it is. But now they don't live it right. 740 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: But when they make it the music and they get 741 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: so good at it, what's the next thing. I really 742 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: gotta live it. I really gotta shoot somebody. I really 743 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: got to get that. Nigga Shot was an artist who 744 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: was at the video shoot. One of the little guys 745 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: that I think you were signed and he was like, yo, 746 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: this kid and I was like, not this kid. I'm 747 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: looking at it. I'm like, yo, he's a wild one. 748 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: And then like a couple of weeks later, I'm looking 749 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: on the blocks. He just got picked up, did it? 750 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 3: And I was like, what the hell? 751 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: Kid I had from Markins. So he in jail for 752 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: twenty years? His friend he came here, I signed him 753 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: where he got double Life plus thirty seven years. I'm like, 754 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 2: why would you even give somebody that much time? Double 755 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 2: Life plus thirty seven years? Yeah, I hate when Jordge 756 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: do this is like just safe forever. He's just mentally 757 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: trying to like mess with me, you know what I'm saying. 758 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: But for me that was it's still a big thing, 759 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, I ain't 760 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: removed from the streets completely, but if I could help 761 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: move from the streets and get money ways. But I'm 762 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: talking about, like, you know, my people, if I can 763 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: help them like see a different way where it's like 764 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 2: we don't got to like, you know what I'm saying, 765 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: glorify the violence. I'm all for that. 766 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: I want to ask y'all the same question about franchising. 767 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: How important is regional identity when it comes to franchising, 768 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: because you know, bow. 769 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: Jangles coming to New York, Chick fil A and New York. 770 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: Don't hit the same for me coming from the South, 771 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: chickl y'all not used to it. 772 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: I was excited at first. 773 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 5: I can't imagine bo Jangles in New York. 774 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: Certain things I'm getting from New York. 775 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 6: No, I'm from Delaware, but I got a family. That's 776 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 6: why I have my family from down south. And I 777 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 6: only know what Bojangles from when I'm down south. Like 778 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 6: I know literally when you're driving when you hit certain 779 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 6: areas because you see yeah yeah. 780 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 2: But like you look forward to in and Out. If 781 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm in Florida, I look forward to the looking. But 782 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: if in and Out came here, it'll be a line 783 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 2: for twenty day absolutely, And Chick fil A is still 784 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: a line of Chick fil A. And tell you it's 785 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: still a line Chick fil A. I know all this 786 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 2: stuff because I'm in it, right. Chick fil A average 787 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: unit volumes is seven million, that's the average, and worst 788 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: they do, our average unit volumes is two point nine million. 789 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: I got one store, We got one store. That's doing 790 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: five million, which is amazing, right, Chick fil A averaged 791 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: or does seven millions? Crazy? In New York City, the 792 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: average does twelve million dollars. That's so somebody liked it, 793 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying something. 794 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: I still like having a regional identity with some of 795 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: these franchises. 796 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 3: I know they still do have a regional identity. They 797 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: definitely I think that's a Chick fil A come here people, 798 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: that's you know, because let's be clear, most people from 799 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: New York lineages from the South, you know what I'm saying, 800 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: So they used to coming back and forth Grandmama, Auntie 801 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 3: this or that, you know, so you know, once when 802 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 3: it came, it's like, whoa, this is here now, so 803 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: let's flood it, you know what I'm saying, because you know, 804 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: you're not used to getting it. 805 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: And once it's good, yeah, once it's good. You know. 806 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 2: And your point you were saying earlier about our cheap 807 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 2: fast food used to be great point. What we did 808 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 2: with our company. We created a five dollar box outside 809 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: of corporate, outside of they can't really tell you what 810 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: to do with your pricing, and that five dollar box 811 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: our company is now comping twelve percent higher in corporate 812 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: an average because it could afford it, you know what 813 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So now everybody's running to our stores for 814 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: the five dollar box Crystal Mill deal. 815 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, my kids want the pope The other day was 816 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 4: fourteen dollars. It was just for strips, fries and the juice. 817 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: And I could not believe. I said, Nah, we're gonna 818 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 4: go home and cook. I hit the town of Cook. 819 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't. 820 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 4: I could not give Popeyes, Sloop Popeys fourteen dollars. 821 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 2: And you know I got six kids. 822 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 5: You left Popee, they had stuff? 823 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: Would you cook? What did you cook? Burgers? How much 824 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 2: you think the burgers ran here? 825 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 4: So I ran, I said, I go to bj is 826 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 4: running big box of burgers, cousse. We twenty two dollars 827 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 4: for the big angus burgers and put them on the thing, 828 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 4: put the little fries in the thing and it was good. 829 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 4: After twenty minutes they had their meals. You know, I'm 830 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 4: a pappy that cooks though, So you know. 831 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: If this don't work out Bojangles. 832 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: But y' all right about that five dollar price point, man, 833 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: that ship changes a lot, like we got all changed. 834 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: We got a four ninety nine deal for I think 835 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 1: it's what two crystal burgers, a small frying and drink. 836 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 2: Then we got a breakfast meal deal for two for 837 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: five hours. Bro, you can't get four for five dollars 838 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: nowhere right, So when you could and it's good, you know, 839 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: people are running. I'm like, this is crazy with twelve 840 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: comping twelve percent higher. And I'm sure you've seen since 841 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: you did that, it just went crazy because let's be real, 842 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 2: times is real rough right now? Patty? Four dollars right? 843 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: Four dollars? Oh my god, that's crazy. See where you're 844 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: getting your bee Patty from? Though Bodegger, we might in 845 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: flat Bush, the first one coming to Flatbush. 846 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 4: I wanted to ask, you know, back to be I 847 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 4: know you still deal with with with YACHTI what were 848 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 4: your thoughts when when I feel like everybody was attacking 849 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 4: Yachty and I feel like when sometimes we do things 850 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 4: wrong as a community, instead of having a conversation, were attacking, 851 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 4: we like to cancel and obviously had a conversation and 852 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 4: went back and apologized. So what was your thought when 853 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 4: you heard Yady's line? 854 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 2: And did you call him? Actually I didn't. 855 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: I hadn't even talked to him until I seen because 856 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 3: he's he's in Australia on tour with with you know 857 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: so and I was I was just in Southeast eight, 858 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 3: so we was kind of we miss each other until 859 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: every like him and Stephen had a conversation, you know 860 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But like when I heard, I was like, 861 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 3: you know, me and Stephen were really good, We're real cool. 862 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 3: You know, I was like, I'm gonna put them together. 863 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 3: But it happened naturally because y'ally, you know, if he 864 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 3: makes a mistake, you know what I'm saying. The kid 865 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 3: is so he's just a really good person and he's free, 866 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and sometimes you know, a 867 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 3: lot of they just don't be thinking, you know. So 868 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 3: he's just going and writing the line come out and 869 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 3: then he gets to the backlash. You know, he's smart. 870 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna hear Stephen. So he hit him personally, 871 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. They talked personally, which everything 872 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 3: was cool. You know, he bossed up, did what he 873 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 3: needed to do, talk to him like a man. Did 874 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 3: that and it's gone, you know. But I mean a 875 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 3: lot of times I think, you know, these artists have 876 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: free will. Man and sometimes at the end and they 877 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 3: just they just writing and thinking and not thinking about 878 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 3: you know, everything else. You know what I'm saying, can 879 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: come with it. But and I don't think he was attacked. 880 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 3: People use it at a moment to. 881 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 2: Teach, for sure. 882 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 6: I watched the documentary you guys did with JT when 883 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 6: she first came home, and it showed how, like also 884 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 6: to a Little Babies documentary, you guys are almost it's 885 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 6: such a family or felt like such a family at. 886 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 3: This man. It's family oriented. Man, That's how we run 887 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 3: our business, you know, because. 888 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 6: I'm just wondering now, like how the dynamic works because 889 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 6: it's just JT. And are you guys still I do 890 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 6: still see like young Miami talking about you guys. 891 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's our relationship, Like we still have a great relationship, 892 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 3: see Miami. We text each other every Everything is still cool. 893 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 3: It's just at the time where she wanted to go 894 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 3: with her career, just things didn't It didn't match your work, 895 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 3: you know. So it was like, hey, I'm not going 896 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 3: to never hold nobody back, you know what I'm saying, 897 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 3: that's what you want to do. You're free, you know 898 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 3: your free will, you can go you know and explore 899 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 3: any option you want to do. 900 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: It's still love too. 901 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 5: Did it break your heart still? 902 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 6: Because I think we were all waiting for them to 903 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 6: have that big, major run together. 904 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 3: It didn't break my heart because I've been in the 905 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 3: game a long time and I know people grow apart, 906 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, be real, Like that's 907 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 3: why I think a lot of if you look in 908 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 3: the business, we were the only ones out there with groups. 909 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Everybody was scared of groups. 910 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean they I used to get man, 911 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 3: you're crazy, you know, to do a group. But I 912 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 3: think that's what that was our sweet spot, you know 913 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So it didn't break my heart just 914 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 3: because you know, hip hop raised me and I watched 915 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 3: and studied you know music, you know what I'm saying. 916 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 3: And I mean, eventually people are going to grow apart, 917 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And we worked hard at it, 918 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 3: you know, and who knows, one day it may happen again, 919 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 920 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 2: But like people just grow apart. How did the untimely 921 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 2: passion of a takeoff. 922 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 3: I mean packing to this day still, you know what 923 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying like take Off was probably one of the nicest, humble, 924 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 3: like any artist I ever worked with. You know what 925 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like he just was It was God's child, man, 926 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, like for real, and. 927 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: That moment. Man, I'm still messed up on that moment. Man. 928 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 3: It's even hard to talk about it, you know what 929 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 3: I'm saying, just because you know, yeah, that's a hard one, bro. 930 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely does it feel safer, Well, you know you 931 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: got him up there to with this money you said, 932 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: God got him, but he got the halo over That's. 933 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: Dope, But it's a fire room. Man. 934 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: Does it feel safer to invest in franchises over people? 935 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you. Yeah, man, I 936 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: mean in a way, you still invested in people, right, 937 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 2: because like I said, we went down because we didn't 938 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 2: have the right people. We got the right people, and 939 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 2: those people like made the business work much better. So like, 940 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 2: but overall, absolutely, And it's crazy. Like Larry Larry Monroe, 941 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: a good friend of mine New York, he told me 942 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: you got these QSR restaurants, and I was like, that's dope, 943 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 2: because like, as a people, like we need to understand 944 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 2: how Like it's a lot of money in it, you 945 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and we just don't know. Like 946 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 2: we got it's thirty two restaurants that makes us the 947 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 2: number one black QSR franchise owners, which is quick service restaurant. 948 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 2: But look at this. I got a friend, one of 949 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: my really really close friends who also helped me. I 950 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 2: won't say his name, but they got seven hundred and 951 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 2: something Popeyes and Burger Kings. They're not even in the 952 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 2: top six. Wow. So look at that, right, being being 953 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 2: black is a huge accomplishment, and I'm so thankful to 954 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: be part of it. But thirty two puts us at 955 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: number one, seven hundred, don't put him at number five six. 956 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 2: So it's just like so many of these businesses that 957 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: one it's hard for us to get into because I 958 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 2: wouldn't have got in if I didn't have those mentors. 959 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even think about it. Coach wouldn't have got 960 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 2: in if it wasn't for me. So it's just like 961 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 2: when I hear you was doing it, I'm like, man, 962 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 2: that's dope. You got some good guidance or you just 963 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 2: really map it out, and it's like that sign that 964 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 2: could last forever for your kids, kids kids. These people 965 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 2: I'm talking about six hundred day I had it for 966 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 2: three generations already. So it's just like for us, it 967 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: is better to invest in something like that than people. 968 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 2: But you invest in the right people, like little Baby 969 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 2: there's that. You know, Yachty coach hit it four or 970 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: five times. I don't even think Rockefeller hit it as 971 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 2: much as QC did it, Like nobody really did it 972 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 2: like them. So it's just like, but how many shots 973 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 2: you took, you know what I'm saying. So to answer 974 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 2: that question, I think it is more safer to invest 975 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 2: in QSR, especially something that's established already, because you could 976 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 2: get behind something that's not as established and it blow 977 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: up or it don't, and more more times than less 978 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 2: it don't blow up. Because being an entrepreneur in business 979 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 2: is really hard. I know that. 980 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 3: I think both, you know, because I mean, like I said, 981 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 3: my twenty eight years of my career existence in music 982 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 3: has been investing in people. You know, I'm just learning 983 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 3: now you know the other business, you know what I mean, 984 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 3: like for real, for real, I got to saying I 985 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 3: always say, like damn, you know, being in a business 986 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,959 Speaker 3: so long and investing people. I'm like, bo I gotta 987 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 3: give me something that don't talk back, you know what 988 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 989 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 2: No, just been for real, you know. 990 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 3: So that's when I start diversifying and looking at investments 991 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 3: in different things, you know what I'm saying, Because I 992 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 3: was so lasered in like locked in with music, you 993 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like I said, I'm a creative, 994 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 3: So it's like I never even looked outside of that 995 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 3: until like a couple of years ago. 996 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,280 Speaker 2: Like, you know, let me start. You know, as I'm. 997 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: Getting older, you know, I probably won't be able to 998 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 3: do this forever. 999 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1000 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 3: It's being real, So let me just start, you know, 1001 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 3: looking at my options. 1002 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 1003 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 6: Was that like a like something that happened that made 1004 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 6: you think about that? It was literally just you reflecting on. 1005 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 2: Like like years old. 1006 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm not going to 1007 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 3: do music and chase artists and you know forever, you 1008 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 1009 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 2: So, and you know, I have children, I have a family. 1010 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 3: You know, I came up in poverty, you know, so 1011 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 3: I want to change the way that looks for my 1012 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 3: children and my grandchildren. 1013 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,240 Speaker 2: You know. So, so let me start. 1014 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 6: Diversify a lot of the artists you've worked with too, 1015 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 6: there's always like an entrepreneurial spirit about them, and y'all 1016 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 6: empower them to do that. 1017 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 3: That's I mean, I'm telling you, developing an artist, you 1018 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 3: turn them into a brand. 1019 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1020 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 3: And me being a manager for so long, you know, 1021 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 3: I only ate off the ancillary. I never ate off 1022 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 3: the product. The ancillary and the ancillary is all the 1023 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 3: businesses built around the artists. So once when you build 1024 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 3: an artist, it's like, okay, my soon as I sign 1025 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 3: of artists, I'm like, yo, so how. 1026 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 2: Big do you want to go? You know? 1027 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 3: I said, my goal is to turn you into a brand. 1028 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 3: Are you ready for that? 1029 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 2: You know? 1030 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 3: I want to turn into a brand and everything you touch, 1031 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 3: all the ancillary that you think. You know, you like this, 1032 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 3: you like that, Let's turn that into a business that's 1033 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 3: where you control and your own you know. 1034 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 1: So I like having y'all up here, man and having 1035 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: this conversation because when people see y'all, it's inspiring, Like 1036 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: there's so many people that look like us that don't 1037 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: even know things like this are possible. You know what 1038 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: I mean, like franchising, like it's something I always wanted 1039 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: to do, thinking about like what E Class was doing 1040 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: and for sure you know, and. 1041 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 6: How did you get into trying to get No? 1042 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 2: I got it was watching people like it, bro. 1043 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: But I got into it because because the two Change, 1044 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 1: because you know, Two Changs became the head of creative 1045 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,760 Speaker 1: marketing for Crystal. 1046 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 2: And then I saw a little duball. 1047 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: Little Uball was down that do Ball did with all 1048 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: the Crystal burg and I'm like, damn, I see Crystal 1049 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: in the minute. 1050 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 2: I just asked him where you get that from? 1051 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: And that's when he told me about Two Changs And 1052 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, two Change had the creative marketers. 1053 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 2: I hit him change Tech. 1054 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, man, I want to talk about just 1055 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: seeing what's over Crystal. 1056 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 2: And they plugged me right in. That's crazy. They plugged 1057 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,439 Speaker 2: me right in and it just made sense. My team 1058 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: was like, yo, let's do it. You know what we 1059 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 2: do for brands as a culture, like it's it's crazy. 1060 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 2: Like even Rick Ross. I don't know Rick Ross, but 1061 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 2: like you know, uh, Wingstop. When Rick Ross got Wingstop, 1062 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 2: Wingstop was trading at like three times and multiple so 1063 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 2: that means if they ebotize them two million dollars, the 1064 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 2: most you could sell it for six I don't know 1065 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 2: if it's Rick Ross, but between that time and now 1066 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 2: Ringstop is trading at nine times, you got to give 1067 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 2: Ross a lot of credit for that. That's what I'm saying. 1068 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 2: Think about before nobody was thinking about it. So it's 1069 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 2: like again between him, you know, it's nine times. Now 1070 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 2: that's that's insane. So it's like we we add a 1071 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 2: lot of value to ship that we don't own a 1072 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 2: lot of times, you know what I'm saying. So I 1073 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 2: don't own Both Jangles, but I'm own these restaurants and 1074 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna help build it up, you know what I'm saying, 1075 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 2: instead of just like taking some money to help promo them. 1076 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, again, I want to preach 1077 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 2: to these kids, like you gotta own something, you gotta 1078 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 2: you gotta own sign and congrats on the crystals, y'all. 1079 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: It's inspired hearing y'all Talk thirty twenty eight, currently operating, 1080 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 1: thirty two coming. 1081 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh that's incredible, and next week one on the campus 1082 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 2: A U G A One Man that's the band Wow 1083 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 2: and uh the first one downtown Florence. You know, so, yeah, 1084 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 2: we're excited about that. Where are you from it? Are 1085 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 2: you close to from Florence? 1086 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: While to Charles, I was raised the most corner, so 1087 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: most corners, like thirty minutes from Charleston. 1088 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're on that side. Yeah, yep, low country. 1089 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you the brothers for joining us. Man, you 1090 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 4: guys couraging and keep pushing. I got one last question. 1091 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 4: I know, Coach, I know you on the road all 1092 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 4: the time. I know you probably never home. I see 1093 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 4: you on the road when you're gonna sell me to 1094 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 4: eat thirty m three convertible that you have. 1095 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 3: Coach has a car Bee trying to buy for the 1096 00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 3: longest time. 1097 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: You don't want to sell it to me? 1098 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 3: Why don't you sell me that car? He should have 1099 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,439 Speaker 3: bought it. He was supposed to. It was his car. 1100 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 3: It was you know. 1101 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 2: And then I was being cheap my business partner. 1102 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 3: It was I remember it's twenty eighteen and we just 1103 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 3: renegotiated and it was my birthday and he was like 1104 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 3: I was on the computer looking at the car, and uh, 1105 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 3: my assistant at the time, he was like, Hey, what 1106 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 3: was that car Coach was looking at? Because I always 1107 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 3: used to be on the computer. And she went in 1108 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 3: and went in my thing and gave it to him. 1109 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1110 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 3: And he's like, man, pull up to the studio. I 1111 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 3: pulled up to the studio and they backed that thing. 1112 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,720 Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, backed it off the damn trailer. 1113 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 3: I was like, but I should have bought it. When 1114 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 3: when when I got it, and he see said, man, 1115 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 3: you know I was that was my car. I was 1116 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 3: supposed to because the car said new Yard said New Jersey. 1117 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 4: And my Long Island, Long Island and my Long Island. 1118 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 2: Yep, you know it's crazy. I just got over cars. 1119 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 2: I sold him my Rose Royce. I always told me 1120 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 2: I got a good deal. Yes, I did. Never been 1121 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: round the body, Crystal, That's what I'm saying. I just 1122 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 2: love mind living in New York. I had three cars 1123 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 2: and I was taking Ubers everywhere. But the cause we 1124 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 2: buy it is a little different. They go up in value. 1125 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 2: The cause. I used to be all you because you're. 1126 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 3: Driving around Brooklyn and it's Bentley Ice Blue Bentley. Then 1127 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 3: you got a color in. 1128 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you doing? You can't even drive 1129 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 2: in New York. Real like they had a thousand cars 1130 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 2: though I gotta do this. I don't know. Race Collection 1131 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,919 Speaker 2: allowed me to give a shout out, but I got 1132 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 2: to shout out my daughter Milan and a Hampton University 1133 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 2: crew that's listening. That's right, the real Hu, the real Hu. 1134 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 2: You know, she's a junior right now. Like it, she 1135 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 2: love it. She chose. I wanted to go to Howard, 1136 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 2: but she made the right shout out to my little sister, 1137 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 2: you know, Uh, Mike Novo, Ben Black, Stephen Man, Cherian 1138 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: Rhanda Omar and all the people that really helped me. 1139 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot more, but just want to 1140 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 2: shout them out. They really are live a big role 1141 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 2: in my life. 1142 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 4: All right, Well, Coach k Melcarter, Yes, indeed, it's the 1143 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 4: Breakfast Club in the morning. 1144 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 1: Hold up, every day I wake up, click your ass 1145 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: up the Breakfast Club. 1146 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 3: Y'all finished? 1147 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 2: So y'all done.