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Speaker 1: I Am all in You.

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Speaker 2: I Am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Everybody Scott Patterson, I Am All In Podcast, iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: one eleven Productions. One on one interview with the One

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Speaker 1: the Only, Daniel Cash from Saulsbury, England. The identifier would

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Speaker 1: be Stonehedge. That's where he grew He grew up in

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Speaker 1: the mean streets of Stonehedge. Daniel is a TikToker? Is

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Speaker 1: that what you call yourself a TikToker?

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Speaker 2: Well? I thought as a stigma attached to that maybe.

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Speaker 1: But you're but you're featured on TikTok correct. This is

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Speaker 1: the medium, the platform that that you're using. Okay, and

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Speaker 1: you're a bit of a Gilmore fanatic. You ranked the

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Speaker 1: Gilmore characters, you give your opinions on the characters. So

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Speaker 1: and so tell us about this Gilmore fascination and why

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Speaker 1: you think the show is so annoying.

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Speaker 2: I did a video saying I thought the show was

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Speaker 2: very annoying, but I loved it dearly. I actually first

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Speaker 2: watched it. It was only a few years ago that

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Speaker 2: I watched it for the first time, so I came

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Speaker 2: to it quite a late. I've seen like the odd

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Speaker 2: episode as it was shown on TV, and I just

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Speaker 2: immediately became obsessed. And I think a lot of people do,

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Speaker 2: partly because of Star's Hollow and you know, everything that

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Speaker 2: the feel of it and everything it represents, which is

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Speaker 2: community and you know, just a lovely place to live.

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Speaker 2: But the character. I have some strong opinions about the characters.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear him. Who's your who's your favorite character, who's

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Speaker 1: your most who annoys you the most? Actually, let's start

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Speaker 1: with that.

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Speaker 2: Who annoys me the most? On a on a base level,

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Speaker 2: I would have to say, Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Dozy, why tell us why?

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Speaker 2: I just feel like he's especially in the early in

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Speaker 2: the earlier seasons, he comes on screen and I just

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Speaker 2: want to turn away. I find he he wants to

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Speaker 2: make everybody's life a little bit more difficult. That's what

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Speaker 2: I feel. He he his heart might be in the

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Speaker 2: right place, but he can't allow that to kind of

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Speaker 2: come through to the forefront. He has to just try

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Speaker 2: and annoy everyone that little bit too much.

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Speaker 1: But in small town UK, do you not have this

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Speaker 1: prototypical type of character in each small town and UK?

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Speaker 1: Because we so many, right, So yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: So it's gat to be right, it's got to be.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the thing. I think. Look, I think

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Speaker 2: part of with the Gilmore Girls and the characters is

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Speaker 2: that there is so much real stuff about all of

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Speaker 2: the characters, and with Taylor. Everyone knows that Taylor Dozy.

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Speaker 2: Everyone has that person in their lives where you're like,

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Speaker 2: do you know what, just leave me alone for five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Who's Who's Who's next on your list of annoying characters?

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Speaker 1: Who's who comes in second place?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm having to rank them now, I

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Speaker 2: will say I do. I love her? Obviously, we all

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Speaker 2: love her. She is the icon of our hearts. But

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Speaker 2: Laurai Gilbol can be so frustrating sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Hell, tell us, why why do you think?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I know that there's the the

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Speaker 2: relationship with her mother is difficult, and I get that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes you can see that Emily is

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Speaker 2: coming from a good place. She like not often let's

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Speaker 2: start there, but sometimes you can see that she's really

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Speaker 2: trying in her own Emily Gilmore Way and Loura I

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Speaker 2: just never kind of allows her in to that degree of,

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Speaker 2: you know, to understand her. And sometimes it's just like

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Speaker 2: you want to kind of reach through the screen and

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Speaker 2: say love, I come on now, she's trying. Just give

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Speaker 2: her this one. It's one moment.

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Speaker 1: So when you're watching the show, okay, are there any

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Speaker 1: parts of the show now that you know it a

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Speaker 1: little better that you just skip over?

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Speaker 2: You never skip There's there are bits that the one

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Speaker 2: the one part of the show that I feel is

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Speaker 2: and Rory do not talk.

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Speaker 1: There's some good right, I I understand. But there's some

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Speaker 1: good episodes in there because we just yeah, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: some great episodes. And I know a lot of fans

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Speaker 1: aren't crazy about season six, but I'm kind of enjoying

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Speaker 1: the ride so far. So what's your favorite Well, so,

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Speaker 1: what's your favorite time period of Gilmore Girls? What if

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Speaker 1: you were to pick a season.

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Speaker 2: So difficult, I feel like my instinct is to say

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Speaker 2: season one because it's so nostalgic, and it's so you

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Speaker 2: get to know everyone, you get introduced to everyone, and

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Speaker 2: it's such a it's such a lovely time for the show.

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Speaker 2: But also, I'm a huge fan of Jess, So when

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Speaker 2: the time period where Jess is introduced, I really, I

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Speaker 1: So you like him better than Logan or Dean?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Tell me? Why? Why? Why not Logan?

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Speaker 2: Not Logan? I I feel it might be a bit

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Speaker 2: personal from me, but Logan represents a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: that I don't like. And I also think he represents

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Speaker 2: everything that Lorelei escaped. And when Lrory gets with him,

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Speaker 2: and you know, the whole boat incident, and there's a

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Speaker 2: Lorale's side, you know, I don't want her to get

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Speaker 2: He's got this privilege which means he's untouchable, and Rory

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Speaker 2: hasn't got the same privilege, and he kind of gets

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Speaker 2: him into these these moments. I just I just hate

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Speaker 2: that for Rory. Right.

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Speaker 1: Don't you feel though that Logan is the male version

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Speaker 1: of Laura I. When Laura l I was detaching herself,

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Speaker 1: disassociating herself from her family, Logan's having a little more

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Speaker 1: of a difficult time doing that. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: were pressuring laurale I to live a certain type of

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Speaker 1: certain kind of wife and marry a certain kind of guy,

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Speaker 1: which probably would have been a Logan type guy.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, so don't you feel that they're similar characters at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like they are similar characters who make

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Speaker 2: some the big choices they make are opposing, if that

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Speaker 2: makes sense. So I felt at Lourel, I try to

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Speaker 2: have this background that she wasn't necessarily proud of, Whereas

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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like Logan used that background

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff that affected other people. I felt at

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Speaker 2: and Logan kind of spread his problems to other people

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Speaker 1: Okay, And why Jess, tell me, why did you always

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Speaker 1: see the potential in Jess? You always thought he was

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Speaker 1: They got each other on an animal level, on an

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Speaker 2: I feel like with Jess he was from a very

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Speaker 2: And I also feel like from a romantic, from a

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Speaker 2: with Rory, he it was a very real thing that

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Speaker 2: He couldn't be who he knew he could be, just

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Speaker 2: like it's a kind of working class hero kind of situation,

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Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? He didn't have the

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Speaker 2: you know, he could have gotten even further than he did.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Rory? Do you like Rory?

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Speaker 2: I think Rory gets a really hard time from a

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Speaker 2: lot of fans, I really do.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Why do you think

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Speaker 2: I think it's because I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's because you know, we love her from the beginning,

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Speaker 2: and everyone loves her, and then she makes some bad choices.

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Speaker 2: We all we all make bad choices. We've all done

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Speaker 2: stuff we're not proud of. But in the especially in

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Speaker 2: people's reaction to that is to have a polar opposite

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Speaker 2: than I don't know what it is, but I do that.

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Speaker 2: I think she gets a really hard time.

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Speaker 1: I get a hard time for defending her. Sometimes the fans,

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Speaker 1: you know, they they write these things, and it's definitely

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Speaker 1: not the majority, it's a very small segment of the

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Speaker 1: for everyone. So I never got the vitriol. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: we agree. What about Luke. Let's talk about the most

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Speaker 1: important character in the entire show. Luke. I'm kidding, kidd,

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Speaker 1: we don't know.

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Speaker 2: I often I talked to my friends, and me and

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Speaker 2: and how neither neither of us believe that there are

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Speaker 2: many good men in Stars Hollow or in the in

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Speaker 2: And actually Luke is potentially the only one, and Dave

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Speaker 2: provides provides something of worth to love al I and Rory,

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Speaker 2: you know, And so I think, actually Luke, everyone loves Luke.

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Speaker 2: You must know this, of course, you.

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Speaker 1: Know it is. I have a lot of interaction with

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Speaker 1: the fans. I travel a great deal, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: always positive. Yeah, it's He's been well received, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: So look, we're right now at the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: six and Rory is living with Emily and Richard, as

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Speaker 1: you know, in the poorhouse. Oh, would you like Daniel

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Speaker 1: to be living under Emily and Richard's roof? Would you

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Speaker 2: Food would be good?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. That's one aspect that I would

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Speaker 1: enjoy as well.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, exactly every Friday night. But what I do,

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Speaker 2: what I think is very accurate, and I'm a parent myself,

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Speaker 2: is the relationship that parents have with their children is

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Speaker 2: very different to the relationship they have with their grandchildren.

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Speaker 2: And even though Emily is Emily, she will always be Emily.

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Speaker 2: Her relationship with Rory actually is you know, it has

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Speaker 2: its moments, but it seems like you know Rory. You

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Speaker 2: can see why Rory doesn't fully understand love allies experience

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Speaker 2: because Rory has been so cushioned from how Emily and

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Speaker 2: Richard respond to her. So I think if I was Wory,

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Speaker 2: you know, it has downside, but it wouldn't be too bad.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, let me Do you think Rory's punishment for

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Speaker 1: stealing the yacht three hundreds of hours of community service

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Speaker 1: is deserved? Do you think it was too much of

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Speaker 1: a sentence, too light of a sentence? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I would Say's probably about right, because you know, we

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Speaker 1: You know, they don't really need to because Liam tours.

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Speaker 2: Right, there's some very good tribute bands you have to tribute.

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Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, it's a big Gilmore celebration all over

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time and we will see you

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