Speaker 1: Wol Zone Media. There are certain things that we have
Speaker 1: a strong held belief unless you actually went through it,
Speaker 1: you really not only can you not understand, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: even speak on it. I believe that there are certain
Speaker 1: things that, yeah, that's really true, Like you really can't
Speaker 1: understand the depths of something. An example would be as
Speaker 1: one of the I think only parent that I can
Speaker 1: think of within the cool Zone media family obviously not
Speaker 1: in our all West coastle because like Miles and Jack
Speaker 1: are parents.
Speaker 2: So they would know. There are certain things that like
Speaker 2: the death of a child.
Speaker 1: Look, dude, like no one really understands the depth of that.
Speaker 2: I know it's super dark to open.
Speaker 1: This with, but that's real, like unless you've been through this,
Speaker 1: Like it's almost like, I mean, I appreciate your sympathy,
Speaker 1: but you honestly you really can't understand the depths of
Speaker 1: pain unless you've also lost a child.
Speaker 2: I'm with that. Other things like like the death of
Speaker 2: a parent, like.
Speaker 1: If you lost a parent, you know, even if you
Speaker 1: lost a parent young, if you've buried a friend, I
Speaker 1: think death is the theme here, Like if you've buried
Speaker 1: a friend as a child, like you buried someone your
Speaker 1: age you know, that's like one of those things that
Speaker 1: just kind of comes with the era that we were
Speaker 1: from I'm from and the location I was at.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, a lot of.
Speaker 1: Us experienced burying friends, some more than others depending on
Speaker 1: like how involved in that life you were. And then
Speaker 1: there were still others who you know didn't necessarily go
Speaker 1: through that, but you understand pain like it's in some
Speaker 1: it This rule isn't hard and fast. There are times
Speaker 1: that like, look, dude, I don't have to jump off
Speaker 1: a cliff to know it'll kill me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Unless you've dropped falling off a cliff killed yourself, you
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like. Like, Okay, gee, I know
Speaker 1: there are logical things. I don't have to experience that
Speaker 1: to know that it sucks. I can see and call
Speaker 1: like they say, a spade a spade, but there adds
Speaker 1: even more weight to something if I have gone through it,
Speaker 1: Like you could shut You could shut down most people,
Speaker 1: justifiably or in other times just to excuse your own actions.
Speaker 1: You could shut down other people by saying, well you
Speaker 1: didn't you ain't really go through this, You didn't live
Speaker 1: our life. You don't know you don't know we're going through.
Speaker 1: And in some senses that's true. No one can actually
Speaker 1: know what somebody else is going through because we're.
Speaker 2: All different people.
Speaker 1: As similar as the human experience is, you know, there
Speaker 1: are differences because we're unique individuals, which is what makes
Speaker 1: the human experience beautiful.
Speaker 2: But when you're using that as just like an excuse
Speaker 2: to be like.
Speaker 1: You can't be held accountable because well, you ain't know
Speaker 1: what you was talking about because you haven't gone through
Speaker 1: what we're gone through.
Speaker 2: You may experience what we experience.
Speaker 1: I believe that that's pretty easy to spot. You do
Speaker 1: want to be held accountable, But when it does hold weight,
Speaker 1: you can honestly say you wasn't outside for this whole
Speaker 1: series of things about Israel, Palestine, Gaza is I was
Speaker 1: ultimately talking to basically the American hot taste. That was
Speaker 1: the idea, like you like y'all, wasn't y'all ain't go
Speaker 1: through really for real, for real, what the people involved
Speaker 1: have has gone through. America hasn't never had an actual
Speaker 1: modern war as we know it on our soils. No
Speaker 1: one's ever attacked us short of Pearl Harbor. And that
Speaker 1: was like, was it like that was an attack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like on a base, I'm not minimizing it. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, ain't nobody invaded Saint Louis, You feel me.
Speaker 1: We ain't gone through what really most of the world
Speaker 1: has gone through, invading forces and wars in their streets.
Speaker 1: We've had our own wars. We've had the Civil War,
Speaker 1: of course, you know that was but we shot at
Speaker 1: our salves for that one. But I feel like in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, Israel and Palestine could look at
Speaker 1: American be like, look, you wasn't outside. So while me,
Speaker 1: as a black man in America finds it very easy
Speaker 1: to relate to the citizens of Palestine, to relate to
Speaker 1: the citizens of Gaza, because I know what it means
Speaker 1: to be a second class citizen now, not to their extent,
Speaker 1: because I wasn't born in the eighteen hundreds, which is
Speaker 1: what it might have been like then. Also, I'm not
Speaker 1: a native American, Like if I was an indigenous person,
Speaker 1: I could really look at Israel.
Speaker 2: And be like, nah, I do know what it's like.
Speaker 2: I was outside.
Speaker 1: But generally when it comes to calls for humanitarian pause
Speaker 1: and cease fire, again, I don't have to jump off
Speaker 1: a cliff to know that it'll kill me. The eye test,
Speaker 1: the smell test would be like y'all tripping, But will
Speaker 1: that stand up in the court of law? And well,
Speaker 1: y'all even listen to me by saying yo that y'all
Speaker 1: look like y'all wild, and they could be like you
Speaker 1: wasn't outside. You don't know what it's like. We say, well,
Speaker 1: gang life all the time, Like when people always been like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, why didn't you say that about all the death,
Speaker 1: all the murders of Chicago. You wasn't there first of all?
Speaker 1: You don't you know, you're dismissing all of the efforts
Speaker 1: Chicago has made. You know, I'm saying all this because
Speaker 1: I'm setting up something. You know, you're missing all dismissing
Speaker 1: all the efforts Chicago has made to curb their violence.
Speaker 1: Number one. Number two, you're dismissing the systemic issues that
Speaker 1: even causes inner city turmoil, allocation of resources and just
Speaker 1: the purposeful segregation all that, Like you're just you're ignoring
Speaker 1: all that. You're also being a hypocrite by not acknowledging
Speaker 1: the ratchetness that comes from early America and in all
Speaker 1: of our poor communities.
Speaker 2: There's ratchetness everywhere.
Speaker 1: You wasn't outside and O bb net and Yahoo even
Speaker 1: saying that to the whole world. Nigga, y'all wasn't there.
Speaker 1: You ain't go through no damn holocaust. You don't know
Speaker 1: we been through. You wasn't attack like we was attacked?
Speaker 1: How to hell is we the terrorists? Like I don't
Speaker 1: understand that's what That's what y'all was saying, like, how
Speaker 1: are we the terrorists? We're the victims here? What is
Speaker 1: y'all talking about? You wasn't outside? And then one chocolate
Speaker 1: Nando's chicken fingers, Shaka Zulu nation housing me Bruce hand
Speaker 1: raised up from the back. Of course, I hand said, uh, pru,
Speaker 1: we were South Africa said we was outside and this
Speaker 1: is a genocide. Hood Politics, y'all h politics from all right, y'all, welcome, welcome, welcome,
Speaker 1: another episode of Hood Politics season three. This is another
Speaker 1: uh you wasn't outside episode. Clearly because of that rambling,
Speaker 1: Intro South Africa begged different. South Africa was like, listen,
Speaker 1: we'd haven't been through this, and we know what it
Speaker 1: looked like, we know what it is and we know
Speaker 1: what you're doing, and we got something to say and
Speaker 1: they said it. Now, by the time y'all hear this,
Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a old news because
Speaker 1: of how fast the news cycle goes. But some of
Speaker 1: y'all may wonder, like does it even matter? And that's
Speaker 1: kind of what I want to get to who the
Speaker 1: International Court of Justice is, why this again?
Speaker 2: Why this matters? And what they actually said, because there was.
Speaker 1: Some amazing, amazing clips that came through, one of which
Speaker 1: was Israel defending themselves and a young lady was like,
Speaker 1: I hear you guys bringing up the Holocaust and the genocide?
Speaker 1: How dare you bring up that genocide to talk about
Speaker 1: this one? And kept going and in the whole room rolled.
Speaker 1: My daughter showed me this and she was like, this
Speaker 1: says Freudian slip. What does Freudian slip mean?
Speaker 2: Baby?
Speaker 1: It means that that's exactly what a Forredian slip means.
Speaker 1: If you don't know, which I feel like y'all should know,
Speaker 1: But a Freudian slip is essentially when you your slip
Speaker 1: of the tongue. The thing that you said on accident
Speaker 1: was actually what you really mean, what you really think.
Speaker 1: So when she said, how dare you call just use
Speaker 1: that genocide. To describe this one, it's as if you're
Speaker 1: admitting this one is a genocide.
Speaker 2: And that's the whole argument.
Speaker 1: So what's going on in the court, what has to
Speaker 1: be proven, and what does Israel have to do if
Speaker 1: they're found guilty of whatever's being charged of them? Right,
Speaker 1: we'll get into the minutia, what it all means, how
Speaker 1: they defended themselves, and go through all that, But first,
Speaker 1: a little tea again said I'm so far ahead of
Speaker 1: you you got y'alls may have already discussed this, but
Speaker 1: y'all see, there was some sort of teaser about a
Speaker 1: new jay Z record. It was like it said jay
Speaker 1: Z twenty twenty four album, and then it was like
Speaker 1: as if it's like a photo of some sort of.
Speaker 2: Video that they're preparing for.
Speaker 1: And then rock Nation retweeted reext I don't know that
Speaker 1: post and was like, that's news to us.
Speaker 2: I'll mean, I don't know. I would be excited.
Speaker 1: Now, granted that's because I'm an elder millennial, y know,
Speaker 1: said I would be excited to hear another jay Z album,
Speaker 1: But y'all probably don't care, Like, but that's exciting to
Speaker 1: me anyway.
Speaker 2: That's my tea right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a time in hip hop, in rap music,
Speaker 1: and I think it just in the culture as a whole.
Speaker 1: And I know the eighty five South Dudes they talked
Speaker 1: about it in Day podcast too, where we just kind
Speaker 1: of believed that getting ahead, which is oral sex. You know,
Speaker 1: let me try not to be too crude, but like
Speaker 1: oral sex didn't necessarily count as cheating as a common
Speaker 1: comments got a lyric, might have got a little head,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't really cheating. That that's not I mean,
Speaker 1: that's like, that's not cheating, Like it doesn't really count.
Speaker 1: Like how Hong Kong is like China not China. Like
Speaker 1: it's like are you China or not? You're China not China.
Speaker 1: If you come from purity culture, Look you can still
Speaker 1: be a virgin.
Speaker 2: You can still tell your father did the youth group
Speaker 2: They're like, no, I'm still a virgin, like because it's
Speaker 2: just oral.
Speaker 1: Or you know the Mormon thing with the King, I
Speaker 1: shouldn't laugh at him, but what's soaking is you know
Speaker 1: in the Mormon situation with the young things is basically
Speaker 1: you put it in, but if you don't pump, then
Speaker 1: it don't count. So you got to get the homeboy
Speaker 1: to jump on the bed to make the bed shake
Speaker 1: so that you could pump, so he do the pump
Speaker 1: before you.
Speaker 2: That way, it don't count. We ain't really had no.
Speaker 1: Oh lord, we are sexual beings, and just if we
Speaker 1: were just understand that about ourselves, it.
Speaker 2: Don't really count. It's not like it not like.
Speaker 1: Cheating, cheating, Like it's just a little head you know,
Speaker 1: like I didn't I mean, I ain't cuddle, like if
Speaker 1: we was cutting, like we was out here spooning, then yeah,
Speaker 1: bam you like no, like And what makes that even
Speaker 1: more absurd is the fact that and this is the
Speaker 1: part that was on eighty five South, that's the one
Speaker 1: thing you just hope if your girl.
Speaker 2: Cheats on you.
Speaker 1: You hear me using these terms, just like all you
Speaker 1: want to know is like, okay, but did you did
Speaker 1: you suck you?
Speaker 2: Did you give him here?
Speaker 1: Like did you and if like if the answer is yes,
Speaker 1: it just feels like it's so stupid. It's it's because
Speaker 1: misogyny abounds. It feels like such the greatest betrayal. Like
Speaker 1: you okay, listen, I just like, damn man, you just
Speaker 1: like it's the worst, Like it's it's absurd.
Speaker 2: And it's a double standard and it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: But it just feels like that's even worse, right, which
Speaker 1: is absurd because if if you as a man, I'm
Speaker 1: talking cisgendered relationships obviously, but this is the way that
Speaker 1: hip hop felt like if I just got some bead
Speaker 1: as different, but if you gave somebody it me, then
Speaker 1: that's actual cheating.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: On a slightly related note, and I shouldn't even break
Speaker 1: this what up, but me and the die I refer
Speaker 1: to her as her prefix. My wife was walking around
Speaker 1: in the thought crossed my mind as we was going
Speaker 1: to this birthday party with one of her friends who's.
Speaker 2: A queer couple that.
Speaker 1: I was like, Man, if disaster ever hit and you
Speaker 1: were to leave me, I would prefer it would be.
Speaker 2: For like a woman.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, because I can't compete, Like if you
Speaker 1: leave me as like, oh well, there was nothing, there
Speaker 1: was nothing I could do that, it just feels like
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily my defeat. But it's like if she
Speaker 1: leave me for like another black man, then I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've been bested, Like I lost, I played the game
Speaker 1: and I lost.
Speaker 2: I don't it's absurd.
Speaker 1: I know it's absurd, but I just feel like I
Speaker 1: could put an asterisk next to a failed marriage if
Speaker 1: it just turns out she was really a lesbian. It's stupid, okay,
Speaker 1: but so is thinking that a little bit of head
Speaker 1: don't count. You're arguing that these things, that one of
Speaker 1: these counts any other does it. But when you get
Speaker 1: into a court of law, you have to define your terms.
Speaker 1: We have to define what is cheating and what is
Speaker 1: not cheating, not just what felt like cheating, because one
Speaker 1: could argue that flirting if you flirted, like if you
Speaker 1: you know the feelings of butterflies, like, okay, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't smash, I didn't kiss her, I didn't this.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that those things that lead into
Speaker 1: those other things are things you got to think about.
Speaker 2: Like if you in a.
Speaker 1: Sort of monogamous, committed relationship, you have to think about
Speaker 1: those things. Sometimes you might slip and slides into flirting,
Speaker 1: but once you catch yourself, you gotta be like, yo, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm really liking this other person's attention right now. I
Speaker 1: really need to think about that now. If y'all gotta
Speaker 1: now listen, if y'all got an understanding. Don't get me wrong, Like,
Speaker 1: if you and your partner got an understanding, then ignore
Speaker 1: everything I'm saying. But if y'all ain't got another, if
Speaker 1: your understanding is yo, it's me and you forever. You
Speaker 1: really need to think about what you mean when you
Speaker 1: say cheating. I mean I know I've accidentally flirted, meaning
Speaker 1: that wasn't my intent. I wasn't intending on and but
Speaker 1: once it slid into it, it was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: might be tripping right now.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: If you can prove my intent, it's a different story.
Speaker 1: You could be like, nah, nigga, you know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You know, but or you could be or I could
Speaker 1: defend and be like, no, you don't know that. You
Speaker 1: don't know what like it may not have been like that,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You gotta take it to court. You
Speaker 1: can also say, well, nigga, you failed to stop it.
Speaker 2: Maybe I did. You got to prove it.
Speaker 1: But what you can't say is anything actually happened unless
Speaker 1: it did, but it didn't amen now in.
Speaker 2: The court of law.
Speaker 1: The same apparently applies to genocide. We have to define
Speaker 1: our terms and we have to prove intent. The best
Speaker 1: way to explain Israel's position is I might have got
Speaker 1: a little head, but that ain't really cheating. And besides,
Speaker 1: aren't I allowed every once in a while to enjoy
Speaker 1: some head? And maybe I'm the victim here because y'all
Speaker 1: don't know how crazy my girl be this day argument.
Speaker 2: Now, let's get it too specific.
Speaker 1: So first of all, location a case was brought by
Speaker 1: South Africa, the nation of South Africa to the Nation
Speaker 1: of Israel, country to country. Who knew countries could do
Speaker 1: that to each other, Well, they could do that in
Speaker 1: what's called the International Court of Justice, which takes place
Speaker 1: in the Hague, right, which is a city in Europe. Anyway,
Speaker 1: What is it, Well, it's a wing of the UN,
Speaker 1: the United Nations, which is what, well, a baby that
Speaker 1: came out of first from the League of Nations because
Speaker 1: of World War One and then after that evolved into
Speaker 1: the UN after World War Two. Essentially, it's where the
Speaker 1: people of the planet, the governments of the planet, stopped
Speaker 1: kidding themselves and stopped acting like we wasn't on one planet,
Speaker 1: that our borders ain't made of. Humans can travel across
Speaker 1: land and sea and now in the air. So the
Speaker 1: idea that we get to be sovereign, autonomous entities that
Speaker 1: have no relation to each other or can't be held
Speaker 1: accountable by the rest of the world is absurd.
Speaker 2: We're all on one planet. Borders are made up.
Speaker 1: You can't just wipe out people, so like, if you're bugging,
Speaker 1: we need to be able to call you the task essentially,
Speaker 1: thank you Nazis, thank you Jeremy. It was like, what
Speaker 1: like the hard part about the hard part about the Holocaust,
Speaker 1: which is going to play in a little later, is
Speaker 1: it was carried out by the government, which would mean
Speaker 1: that their actions aren't necessarily illegal. Because what jurisdiction does
Speaker 1: any country have over any other country.
Speaker 2: Countries make their own laws.
Speaker 1: So if I decided in my little world that what
Speaker 1: I'm doing is legal, what court can you bring me to?
Speaker 2: Which brings the idea of the international tribunal.
Speaker 1: If somebody gets to say, well, yo, we gotta hold
Speaker 1: you accountable somehow, you can't just be like, you.
Speaker 2: Can't just do what the fuck you like, this is absurd.
Speaker 1: It was a situation that none of us before this
Speaker 1: never thought about how having to deal with because unless
Speaker 1: a nation attacks another nation, I can't give you the
Speaker 1: business for what you do within your own house, right,
Speaker 1: your house, your rules. What happens in your house is
Speaker 1: your business. But if what happens in your house affects
Speaker 1: this whole block, like, don't the block get a say, right,
Speaker 1: don't we get to say like you can just sell
Speaker 1: crack out your house because of what you're doing to
Speaker 1: the rest of us?
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: So the world had to figure out a way of
Speaker 1: like I gotta at least like, I mean, can we
Speaker 1: I could at least say something right. Now, here's where
Speaker 1: it gets super absurd is you can ignore them. We're
Speaker 1: gonna send a country to jail, Like how do you, like,
Speaker 1: what do you how do you.
Speaker 2: How do you enforce it is? Or got to go
Speaker 2: to jail? Like what does that mean? Well, what it
Speaker 2: means is the like sanctions and crippling their ability to succeed.
Speaker 1: And then you get blacklisted and you get you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, yo, hood.
Speaker 2: Pass is revoked.
Speaker 1: Like there's things you could do, but ultimately there has
Speaker 1: to be a way to hold you accountable for your actions.
Speaker 1: Now that means that this is not the criminal court,
Speaker 1: international criminal court, which would be more about like the
Speaker 1: Nazi soldiers. That's a that's a criminal court to where
Speaker 1: you could put a person in jail.
Speaker 2: I don't want to conflate the too.
Speaker 1: I know it sounded like a little confusing earlier, but like,
Speaker 1: don't conflate the to this is like I said, a
Speaker 1: nation is talking to another nation.
Speaker 2: Being like this and bullshit. You can't do this.
Speaker 1: Now. This has happened before. The Yugoslavian War early nineties.
Speaker 1: You have Gambia bringing case against me or mar In
Speaker 1: the idea of like failing to prevent genocide. Right, so
Speaker 1: this has happened before, right, Ukraine, talk about Russia. That's
Speaker 1: a recent one. And this one gets real tricky. They saying,
Speaker 1: you're accusing us of genocide in the Dawn, Boss, which
Speaker 1: is a reason for y'all to start invading us. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, that's no, that's a foul, that's a violation.
Speaker 1: You can't just accuse us of something as a justification
Speaker 1: for you to do the shit you're doing. You're hope
Speaker 1: saying like, if you know did the action you're finna
Speaker 1: do is finna cause a genocide? You should have stopped
Speaker 1: the shit part of the case low too, So this
Speaker 1: has happened before, right, This isn't the first time a
Speaker 1: nation has called another nation to the carpet and been like, hey, nigga,
Speaker 1: what is it? What y'all can't y'all can't be doing
Speaker 1: all that. So so South Africa called Powell. They said, wait,
Speaker 1: back it up, up, easy, back it up.
Speaker 2: Listen, that's a genocide.
Speaker 1: But that's not necessarily what they took him the court for,
Speaker 1: or took the task for.
Speaker 2: Was was this a genocide or not?
Speaker 1: So let's step back for a second and define what
Speaker 1: do we mean by genocide. Now, of course, part of
Speaker 1: this is frustrating because you're like, it mean exactly what.
Speaker 2: We think it mean? Like, I really gotta to find it.
Speaker 2: Well you do.
Speaker 1: So I've listened to a few podcasts, read a bunch
Speaker 1: of things, did all the research I needed to do
Speaker 1: to be able to say this as succinctly as possible.
Speaker 2: What is a genocide? Right? Because that's what you got
Speaker 2: to prove here.
Speaker 1: When I say, hey, this is a genocide, whoever you
Speaker 1: calling you on it is like, well, we got to
Speaker 1: prove it. And now again the smell test is real
Speaker 1: easy in the sense that I'm like, these are acts
Speaker 1: of atrocity. You're forcibly removing a people group committing heinous
Speaker 1: acts towards women, towards children. Like what we're looking at
Speaker 1: is twenty three there eight thousand people did or like,
Speaker 1: what is you saying you have to be like forcibly
Speaker 1: removing people like a particular people group, women, children, causing
Speaker 1: almost irrevocable harm to them. Now the second part of this,
Speaker 1: to be able to call this a genocide, it a
Speaker 1: little harder to prove, and that you have to prove intent.
Speaker 1: I am trying to either wipe this particular people group
Speaker 1: out in whole or in part, like this is the purpose. Now,
Speaker 1: that's like intent is always hard to prove. Now, where
Speaker 1: we got these definitions from, ironically, was the Holocaust, which
Speaker 1: I mean that's where the Turk came from, and then
Speaker 1: was applied to the Armenian genocide.
Speaker 2: Armenian such a church boy Armenian.
Speaker 1: Genocide, which for some reason America just acknowledged, right, Which again,
Speaker 1: but the acknowledgement has a lot to do again with
Speaker 1: these definitions, right, So what do you mean when you
Speaker 1: say genocide? Might have got a little head, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't really cheating, So you have to prove intent. I
Speaker 1: guess what I was trying to do, of course, with
Speaker 1: the Holocaust. I mean, nigga, that's what they say it.
Speaker 1: They're vermin, they're animals, they're a scourge in our culture.
Speaker 1: There's nobody innocent. If you part of that group, you
Speaker 1: gotta go. I mean, that's that is where we got
Speaker 1: the definition, like the Holocaust defined it. And obviously the
Speaker 1: obvious weird sense of irony is like how God, how
Speaker 1: are Israel on this side of the table now, like
Speaker 1: you of all people should understand you know so, then
Speaker 1: the next question is how do you prove intent? Well,
Speaker 1: the only way to prove intent is by what you said, right,
Speaker 1: which is why we always tell our kids, Look, say
Speaker 1: what you mean. You gotta stand on business right. If
Speaker 1: you said it, you gotta then it better be what
Speaker 1: you mean you better be. If you ain't mean it,
Speaker 1: don't say it. If you ain't mean it, If you
Speaker 1: ain't mean that, you shouldn't have opened your mouth, because
Speaker 1: I get to hold you accountable for what you said.
Speaker 1: Or don't move walk nigga, that's what you said a
Speaker 1: lot of times people be trying to show off for
Speaker 1: the hommies. They talk crazy. You talk crazy around your friends.
Speaker 1: And now look if you black as hell. Yo, Mama
Speaker 1: to warned you a few times. Listen, I ain't want
Speaker 1: your little friends, or you might be out there talking
Speaker 1: crazy in front of your friends, trying to be like,
Speaker 1: oh look you cool, you big and bad. Your mama
Speaker 1: hear you. She gonna put you on your place real quick.
Speaker 1: Say what you said? Say no no, no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no. You ever heard the phrase keep that same energy,
Speaker 1: No no no, keep that same energy. You better watch
Speaker 1: your words because they might get you in trouble. Now
Speaker 1: here's a situation where Israel, Benjamin and them, nothing y'all
Speaker 1: doing them. They government is super right wing right now.
Speaker 1: It wasn't always this right wing, but it's super right
Speaker 1: wing right now. So you got to talk that talk
Speaker 1: and the talk he been talking, but it's on South Africa.
Speaker 1: Topproved that that talk is not just talk. They need
Speaker 1: to prove intent. South Africa's prove are y'all words the
Speaker 1: things you said, the videos that have gone around of
Speaker 1: your military, Now why South Africa feel like listen? Oh listen, Brew,
Speaker 1: I was about to say, oohs that's wrong nation, Bru.
Speaker 1: How does it mean, Bru? We've been through this part time.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that long ago. We know apartheid talk, We know
Speaker 1: apartheid walk when we see it.
Speaker 2: It apartheid.
Speaker 1: You'd like, if you don't know, like apartheid's like, is
Speaker 1: the is the finally evolved version of Jim Crow? Like
Speaker 1: it's this is the fully evolved pokemon. We know what
Speaker 1: it is. We we've heard them words and we've gone
Speaker 1: through it. We stopped it, and we're still healing to
Speaker 1: this day from it. So Israel, you could talk that
Speaker 1: talk to everybody else here, but I'm part of the.
Speaker 2: Global South cup. We know what we're looking at.
Speaker 1: We know what you said, and what you said is
Speaker 1: communicating your intent. So the charges are you're failing to
Speaker 1: prevent genocide, you're conspiring to commit genocide, and straight up
Speaker 1: you're you're doing a genocide. Now, what's obviously happened is
Speaker 1: a war crimes. Is war crimes. But you can't there's
Speaker 1: no the ICJ International Court of Justice don't have no
Speaker 1: jurisdiction of war crimes. We can only talk about genocide
Speaker 1: on the Article two. And they like, well, what's the
Speaker 1: evidence of that? Well, like, okay, first of all, the
Speaker 1: indiscriminate bombing that we all see in number two. You
Speaker 1: telling the civilians to go to what in place and
Speaker 1: then bombing the hell out of that place.
Speaker 2: You not allowing humanitarian aid to come in.
Speaker 1: And then the way that I know this shit is
Speaker 1: on purpose are the words coming out of your mouth.
Speaker 1: Brother steps up from South Africa and was like nigga.
Speaker 1: On October ninth, your own defense secretary was like, listen,
Speaker 1: you done already said talking to your army that like
Speaker 1: we cutting off the electricity, were cutting off the water,
Speaker 1: we cutting off the inn and that we're cutting off
Speaker 1: all this shit because we're fighting human animals.
Speaker 2: You just you you you're calling them vermit.
Speaker 1: You got your other boy talking about nobody's innocent in
Speaker 1: Gaza like I'm trying to wipe Gaza off the face
Speaker 1: of the earth. You said nobody was innocent in Gaza.
Speaker 1: Why because And this is the part that like really
Speaker 1: got really got to me, because he was like, ma,
Speaker 1: g how are you finished say nobody innocent? And the
Speaker 1: reason nobody innocent was like, well, y'all ain't stopped. Y'all
Speaker 1: ain't stopped Lamas, Hamas ain't grow up out the ground.
Speaker 1: You related them, your brothers, them, your sisters. You ain't
Speaker 1: stop them. You protecting them when they come to your house.
Speaker 2: You still feeding them. You not turning them into us, nigga,
Speaker 2: you guilty again.
Speaker 1: This is me getting to be like, hey, hey, hey homie,
Speaker 1: I was outside, Okay, so I live in places that
Speaker 1: are full of gangs. You're finna tell me I'm just
Speaker 1: as guilty as Pooky and them, Like we're all we're
Speaker 1: all guilty. That's what you're finish say. I got cousins
Speaker 1: that have been that's done twenty five years. You're trying
Speaker 1: to tell me I should do twenty five Also because
Speaker 1: the choices of my cousins, I'm supposed to turn them
Speaker 1: into you like you any better hold up, big homie,
Speaker 1: Like it don't work like that. Okay, it don't work
Speaker 1: like that. And what's crazy is using your logic. Here's
Speaker 1: the part that blows my mind. Using that logic, then
Speaker 1: everybody that Hermas kidnapped is guilty using your logic, then
Speaker 1: there are no civil millions in Israel either. So that's why, like,
Speaker 1: before you talk, you gotta stand on business. You can't say,
Speaker 1: like that's the what the hell did you talk about?
Speaker 1: Nobody innocent at Gaza, didn't nobody in a cent in
Speaker 1: Israel right using that logic. But South Africa like food,
Speaker 1: that's what you said, y'all. Niggas is doing Dan. Your
Speaker 1: armies are doing dances around like like celebrating Palestinian deaths.
Speaker 1: You just said you wanted to wipe them all out,
Speaker 1: that Gaza shouldn't exist. You just said that. That proves intent.
Speaker 1: Now Israel's defense you made Joe case. Israel gets to
Speaker 1: make theirs because that's how courts work, all right, less
Speaker 1: and less, less and less.
Speaker 2: Let let's let the homie talk, let them speak for themselves.
Speaker 1: Israel's defense is like, first of all, y'all sound like
Speaker 1: y'all was hired by Hamas because all the everything you
Speaker 1: saying is what is what they're saying to justify their actions?
Speaker 2: How are we Israel?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: It's like, is there am I being pranked? Right now?
Speaker 1: How are we?
Speaker 2: They attacked us? What is you talking about? They're the
Speaker 2: terrors nigga, the geneside? What What the fuck are y'all
Speaker 2: talking about? Israel? Like? They attacked us? What do you?
Speaker 2: I don't is not what paid attention? They said, we
Speaker 2: don't have the right to exist?
Speaker 1: What is you?
Speaker 2: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: Those are their words? You're like, how sway that's what
Speaker 1: they said about us? God damn, you don't mean times
Speaker 1: we done heard that that we don't have a right
Speaker 1: to exist, and now you too. They're the ones that
Speaker 1: said we shoudn't exist. That this them, they're the ones
Speaker 1: river to the sea come from them, Cuz that's the argument.
Speaker 1: Like Nigga, they said, we're we're fighting back. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: You don't think we know what a genocide is. You
Speaker 1: don't think we know? Israel's like, what is happening? They
Speaker 1: attacked us? Well, I don't we're fighting back? What are
Speaker 1: you talking about? South Africa? Like we talk about your
Speaker 1: boy who is not fighting back. He trying to eradicate.
Speaker 1: And the shit coming out your mouth isn't let's go
Speaker 1: get our hostages. The shit coming out your mouth is
Speaker 1: let's wipe them out? Now those are your words Israel?
Speaker 1: Like look, man, people are mad, okay, and when you mad,
Speaker 1: you say stuff. These people ain't really got no power.
Speaker 1: They not like in charge. They just they was upset.
Speaker 1: You know, when you upset, you talk tough, right, you
Speaker 1: talk tougher when you we just hyping each other up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you know we just you,
Speaker 1: well you about to go into a fight. You gotta
Speaker 1: hype each other up, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like they you gotta you gotta get yourself into the game.
Speaker 2: It's Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: You gotta make this, make the shit personal, only it
Speaker 1: is personal. But they're not in charge, fam, Like they're not.
Speaker 1: It's not like how you finna say that? Like how
Speaker 1: you finna say And we did let aid in and
Speaker 1: when food started talking crazy, we told them to chill.
Speaker 1: We are trying to negotiate. It's them that's not trying
Speaker 1: to negotiate. Like why you bringing all this to us?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Keep that energy, keep that energy for them, Bring that
Speaker 1: same energy to mas.
Speaker 2: Why are you bringing up we're the victims? Fam?
Speaker 1: You mad because we clap back, you're not mad at
Speaker 1: the original clap And yes we slap back, Yes I
Speaker 1: got a little head, okay, but I'm the victim here
Speaker 1: because you don't y'all not acknowledge and what I've been
Speaker 1: living with with this here woman, which sounds like I'm
Speaker 1: giving you a bias because I am.
Speaker 2: But that's their defense.
Speaker 1: And South Africa is like, well, we're not bringing a
Speaker 1: case against hamas because Hamas isn't a nation, Gods is
Speaker 1: not a nation. You are you the one with an
Speaker 1: army and they don't take it out. Maybe fifteen hundred,
Speaker 1: you done kill twenty three thousand people, You're a G
Speaker 1: twenty nation. I don't understand. I think you know the
Speaker 1: answer to the question as to why you want trial,
Speaker 1: and they not.
Speaker 2: And they're like, exactly, and we got attacked. What do
Speaker 2: you He's a trigger? Like here we go again. We
Speaker 2: can't add.
Speaker 1: Whenever we try to defend ourselves, everybody else something to say.
Speaker 1: You think we don't know that, like Nigga, the definition
Speaker 1: of genocide is because of what happened to.
Speaker 2: Us, they turn into Germany. Like Germany say something Germany
Speaker 2: like listen.
Speaker 1: I have lost the right to speak on this, so
Speaker 1: just by by virtue of history, I have to side
Speaker 1: with Israel.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, my bad.
Speaker 1: I just I've lost all rights to talk about anything
Speaker 1: concerning I don't don't ask me, don't ask me, okay,
Speaker 1: I'd like, I can't listen.
Speaker 2: I have to recuse myself from this poor hermity.
Speaker 1: Like, don't put me in this shit. We why the
Speaker 1: term exists? So I don't And it's touted like don't no, no, no,
Speaker 1: us to this too messy. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in it. Don't put me in this shit. My name
Speaker 1: is Bennett dog oh Man. So how this is broken
Speaker 1: as far as like who sides is who is pretty simple,
Speaker 1: Global North and global South. Generally, the global North sides
Speaker 1: with Israel. Why because it looks like a global North state,
Speaker 1: you know, and and whatever other reasons why they would that.
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to understand. But most of the
Speaker 1: Global South you have to go back to a really
Speaker 1: early episode called the Global Hood, where I talk about
Speaker 1: what we mean by global North global South, Like we
Speaker 1: don't use terms like third world in development countries no more.
Speaker 2: It's this idea.
Speaker 1: They don't necessarily mean geographically global north, and but for
Speaker 1: some reason they often break on that line, except for
Speaker 1: places like Australia. But anyway, most of the Global South
Speaker 1: is like, no, this is at some point what you're
Speaker 1: doing in Palestine has happened to us. So we're like,
Speaker 1: we know what we're looking at now. If you want
Speaker 1: to split hairs as to what fillatio is or not,
Speaker 1: you could do that all you want, but you know,
Speaker 1: just like I know what the hell you're doing. Now,
Speaker 1: when is this case gonna come out or when are
Speaker 1: we gonna get some answers on this? And not till
Speaker 1: another five years we'll be able to decide whether this
Speaker 1: was an act like according to the international laws, was
Speaker 1: this a genocide or not? We're not gonna know for
Speaker 1: another five years. But it don't matter because ned Yahoo,
Speaker 1: after this whole case was after this whole little scenario
Speaker 1: was over, he walked outside and was like, y'all can't
Speaker 1: tell me shit. I'm paraphrasing him, but he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what the hell I want to do,
Speaker 1: Do what the hell I believe I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Who is you like? I said, you're gonna send me
Speaker 1: to Earth jail? Like what are you gonna do? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do what I believe is right. We know what
Speaker 1: the fuck happened. Y'all wasn't outside. And then it gets
Speaker 1: even more crazy because they're like, Okay, you could say that,
Speaker 1: but we remember your words.
Speaker 2: I talked about this on the other on I think
Speaker 2: on the day.
Speaker 1: Take one, we take five episode where it's like he
Speaker 1: invokes the Amalekites. Remember what the Amalekites have done to
Speaker 1: you it's a passage from Deuteronomy.
Speaker 2: Deuteronomy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, passage from Deuteronomy from the Old Testament. Uh No,
Speaker 1: it's not Deuteronomy, because Deuteronomy is just a lot anyway.
Speaker 1: It's a passage from the Old Testament. Uh, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: But essentially God commands in the Bible, in the Hebrew Bible,
Speaker 1: God commands Israel to wipe out everyone all the way
Speaker 1: down to the cattle for what they have done to
Speaker 1: the children of Israel. So for him to be like,
Speaker 1: remember what the Amalakite has done you, He's like, y'all,
Speaker 1: it's just a saying, like we all get it because
Speaker 1: we all went through all right, We've all been bar Mitzvah's,
Speaker 1: so we know these passages.
Speaker 2: This is the same.
Speaker 1: He's like, nigga, but we know what the saying means,
Speaker 1: like y'all almost slide on you.
Speaker 2: I know what that means, and I know the context
Speaker 2: for which you use it.
Speaker 1: Like if my homeboy, if my homeboy de Smoke calls
Speaker 1: and he like, hey, hey, probably for a slide.
Speaker 2: I know he means he's coming over. Now.
Speaker 1: If me and d Smoke was had some issues, which
Speaker 1: we don't but if we had some issues and he
Speaker 1: was like, hey, nigga, say that again.
Speaker 2: We're gonna slide. What he means is he's going to
Speaker 2: shoot up my house.
Speaker 1: Context right, so I can use the context of what
Speaker 1: Yahoo was saying to know exactly what he meant.
Speaker 2: You meant wipe him out.
Speaker 1: But you can't prove intent tent. It's very hard to prove.
Speaker 1: And even if you do prove it, even if he
Speaker 1: is found to If Israel, the nation of Israel was
Speaker 1: found to have committed genocidal acts or failed to prevent genocide,
Speaker 1: which future me now knows is what happened. They were
Speaker 1: convicted of failing to prevent genocide because you can't prove intent.
Speaker 1: Although the words help, what are you gonna do? You
Speaker 1: and ain't got an army you're gonna stop him? He's fired.
Speaker 2: You can't make them.
Speaker 1: Now we know what's more effective is if his own
Speaker 1: people the nation is like stop this or we're done
Speaker 1: with you, which is kind of what it's getting to
Speaker 1: because the people of Israel are like, can you just
Speaker 1: go get the hostages? Gee, I just can you just
Speaker 1: go get the hostages? Just like in the last the
Speaker 1: first you wasn't outside of this area of this moment
Speaker 1: of violence was my homeboy's mom telling her nephew.
Speaker 2: I just wanted my car back. You got to go
Speaker 2: back to that one.
Speaker 1: Great story that I had to change all the names
Speaker 1: on because these people are stilllive and I'm still friends
Speaker 1: with them, but.
Speaker 2: I just want my car back. That's it.
Speaker 1: People Israel like, can you just get the hostages, Doug?
Speaker 1: Why is you starving them out?
Speaker 2: Just get the osages?
Speaker 1: But what do you do when you start talking about
Speaker 1: your enemy as animals?
Speaker 2: You know what happens? Genocide, hell politics. Y'all?
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