1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: They can now get very bonds and gass players ever 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: played the game. But outside very bonnced in my pie 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: is only a right help dead. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Here we go, Bob Nightingale, joining us right now from 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: USA today. Good to see you, my friend. And I 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: know it's a little bit early, Bob, but are any 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: of your conversations starting to circulate around what the trade 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: deadline could look like? Aside from the obvious buyers and sellers, but. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: People with slipper isn't kind of like adult deadline just 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: because so many teams in the race. But if you're 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: a buyer, you know you're hoping some of these teams 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: fall apart. I mean you're hoping that Atlanta keeps losing. 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: You hope that Arizona Diamondbacks don't get in the race. 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Dinebacks can be very intriguing. They got a lot of 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: pieces there, whether it's a Zach Gallum, Merrill Kelly, both 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: free agents, uh you Henio Suarez at third base, first 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: base with Naylor. 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: So they got a lot of pieces there that people 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 3: want if they're not on the race. 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: July thirty first, Bob, what're gonna take for that? Though? 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 4: We would it take for the Diamondbacks to wave the 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 4: white flag. What's their record have to be at a 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 4: certain point, and you could throw the Braves in there too. 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I think the Braves are cooked. They're ten 25 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: games under right now. They lose every they figure out 26 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 4: ways to lose, kind of like the Diamondbacks. They both 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 4: kind of just figure out ways new ways to lose. 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 4: But what would it take for both those teams records 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: at a certain point for Alexenthopoulos and Mike Hayson to say, 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: you know what, we're trading everybody. 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: I think Atlanta's case, they still want to have most 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: of these guys back. They don't have those free agent guys, 33 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, the big one would be a course, Marcelo Zuna. 34 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: But outside that, and they're not gonna trade away their 35 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: their young core. So I don't think they have a 36 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: whole lot of pieces there. Maybe a couple of bullpen 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: guys where Arizona. Hey, if you're ten games back or 38 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: so and kind of hopelessly out of it, I would think, 39 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, ten games back would would do it for sure. 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 3: You know, they're probably not going to keep Zach Gallon, 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: he's a pre agent. They're probably going to. 42 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Keep Merrill Kelly, but they can still trade them and 43 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: get them back. You know, they got pieces of the bullpen. 44 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: Suarez is a great slugger, and then Nayler has been 45 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: buying at first base, so they got more pieces than 46 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Atlanta as far as guys have been won in. 47 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 5: Trade because of how tight I think the National League 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 5: is in the sense that there's a lot of good teams. 49 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 5: What team do you see as rising to the top 50 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 5: and being like, hey, you know what, We're not gonna 51 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 5: wait this out. We're not gonna wait till the trade deadline. 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 5: We're going to be the first to strike because this 53 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 5: is the kind of time of the month here that hey, 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 5: you know what, if a team strikes, they jump, they 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 5: jump the gun on other teams and get that first 56 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: ball rolling. 57 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: Well, the guy here goes keeps a Ryan is Dave Dombrowski. 58 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: He's as aggressive as anybody, and pretty much if they 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: don't make the World Series, it's a disaster. 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: I mean, this team's been built to win. 61 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: They ran it back one more time, and this offense 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: is that we struggled to come October. So they got 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: to be aggressive here and people. 64 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: Think will happen. 65 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: I think the Cubs will too, and you still got 66 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: a GM Jed Hoyer last year of his contract. 67 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: You know, they need to make the playoffs. 68 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: They are sitting pretty but yeah, if you can write 69 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: the first week of July, it helps out. 70 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: Remember Walkee went on, got c C. 71 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Sibath there early, and uh, those extra starts got them 72 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: in the postseason. So if you get an extra three 73 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: or four starts from somebody, it's really advantageous. 74 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: Bob, who's the biggest name that's going to be traded 75 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 4: this year? Right now? If you look at it, Who's who? 76 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: Do you think the biggest name that'll be traded this 77 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: year will be? 78 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: You know, it could be that Gallon, It really could. 79 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: Uh you know, every he's talking about seeing a contra, 80 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: but god, he struggled so much. You do have two 81 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: and a half years of control, so you're gonna get 82 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: more from the Contra than you would Gallon, who's a 83 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: free agent. 84 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: Uh So I would think, you know, kind of a toss. 85 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: Up about I'd go Gallon over the Contra unless they 86 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,559 Speaker 1: magically just turn it around here in Arizona. 87 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 6: That's a good one. What about position players? 88 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: You know, no one just jumps out at you that 89 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: that would do it. I mean, if you want to 90 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: slug or you would take you. 91 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: Know, Suarez, uh, you know, uh, you know kind of falafa. 92 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 93 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: He'll be moved, but you know, not not a big name. 94 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many big names there will be 95 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: that that that's going to get moved. 96 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 5: Uh. 97 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: You always have to keep an eye in Milwaukee. Milwaukee 98 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: will trade some pitchers and then get some guys back. 99 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll trade Peralta. I think they still 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: remember what happened when they traded Josh Hater and try 101 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: to thread the needle the clubousement berserk. 102 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: I don't think they'll make that mistake again. 103 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: By the way, Bob, so you're just saying, if the 104 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: Diamondbacks don't trade anybody, there's no trades coming from trade deadline. 105 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 6: Right. 106 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: If the Diamondbacks they don't make any trades, it guess what, guys, 107 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 4: we're canceling the trade deadline? 108 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: Is that? 109 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: I mean, because you keep talking about the Diamondbacks. Is 110 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: it Is it more that the Diamondbacks players are that 111 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: valued or that some of the other teams who would 112 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: make trades of White Sox and A's possibly a Rockies 113 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: of Marlins just don't have pieces that other teams won 114 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: that bat. Maybe maybe they don't want that badly is 115 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 4: a better way to phrase it. 116 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: No, you're exactly right, Agent. I think that's it. You 117 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: just don't have the pieces. I mean, no one's no 118 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: one's calling the White Socks and say he can I 119 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: have Luis Robert Now, the way he's hitting, you know, 120 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: Cincinnati could be that one sleeper team that could be 121 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: very active as far as dumban guys. 122 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: If they're not in their race. 123 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: They got some nice pitching, whether it's Nick Martinez or 124 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: some of the guys to move. They do have some bats, 125 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: so that they could be a team to keep an 126 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: eye on, because right now I think they're kind of 127 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: on the on the fence. 128 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 5: Obviously, we're a baseball show, so we like baseball talk. 129 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 5: Is there a chance that they could change or add 130 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 5: a trade deadline of June fifteenth where you could trade 131 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 5: the player and that new team still retail or gets 132 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 5: him gets a pick, because now anybody's traded during the year, 133 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 5: you can't you can't get the pay, you can't do 134 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 5: the qualifying offer, and which would end up giving the 135 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 5: team that gets the trade more of a Hey, you 136 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 5: know what we're willing to go after this guy early on, 137 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 5: and it creates more of a competition early for these 138 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 5: guys that could be traded. 139 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: Now, it's an interesting concept. 140 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: I haven't heard that brought up before past CBA negotiations. 141 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: The only trouble with it is, like, you know, we're 142 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: almost June fifteenth, now there's only you know, two three 143 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: teams are on the race. I just don't know how much, 144 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: how much people get moved and you go to get 145 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: bash enough or for giving up. I'm not sure how 146 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: many teams would be comfortable waving that white flag, you know, 147 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: this early in the season. 148 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: Bob, I've got a position player named for you who 149 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: popped up in some trade rumors this past week. When 150 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: do you think the chances are that Jaron Duran could 151 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: be on the block. 152 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: Well, they got to make move at room in the 153 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: outfield at some point, and the plot have been calling 154 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: and calling about him. 155 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: But they don't have that one piece either. 156 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean the Potterys, they've already traded away a lot 157 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: of prospects. 158 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what they you know, have to give up. Uh, 159 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: you know they're going for this thing, so I'm not 160 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that fits. 161 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got two and a half years of control, 162 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: not making any money, so it makes sense where the 163 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: potterys badly want them. I just don't know who they 164 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: have to give up if we're to giving up a 165 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: lot of guys the last two years just by trading 166 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: prospects and going for. 167 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: The same. 168 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 6: Crats. 169 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: You look different today, Do I see chubby shorts on 170 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: your shoulder? 171 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: Oh? 172 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 4: This the sick design. 173 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: I mean, don't even get it twisted too, because the 174 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: lining normally is like an SOS pad. This lining that's 175 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 5: in the center is so soft, so smooth the outside. 176 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: So many things to choose from on chubby shorts dot com. 177 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: Facts and the code foul for twenty percent off. I 178 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: got the Tiger Sharks o we well blend of a 179 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: tiger and a shark. It's beautiful, so don't wait for 180 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: a very limited time shop Chubby's biggest sale of the 181 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: year forty five dollars shorts and up to sixty five 182 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: percent off select year. Hit up chubby shorts dot com 183 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: and grab your favorites before they're gone. If you miss 184 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: the sale, then use the FT code ful in lowercase 185 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: for twenty percent off. Support ft let them, know, we 186 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: sent you in the survey asks and get ready to 187 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: turn some heads. Summer's here dressed like it in Chubbys. 188 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: Hey, Bob, here's another interesting team. What about the Orioles. Orioles, 189 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: ohhearn Mullins. Maybe I don't know. If Morton keeps pitching, okay, 190 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: would he be one, Sagano, maybe Flynn. They have some 191 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: names out there. Would they go into another trade and 192 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 4: try to get some prospects back to try to help 193 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 4: them in the future. 194 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the thing is with them Ajas, you 195 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: got so many prospects already. 196 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: They're absolutely loading the farm system. 197 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, if they don't get back in thing and 198 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: some gms say, you know what, keep an eye for 199 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: these guys, they may still make a wild card run. 200 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: But the names you said for sure. 201 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean Flinn would bring a bunch back, you know, 202 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: Sagan always only been there a happy year. If you 203 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: want to do that, fine, you know, same same thing 204 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: two with center field. But yeah, Fland would be a 205 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: guy that everybody would want, and he can pitch, you know, 206 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: big time situations. But a lot of gms say, keep 207 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: an eye for the Orls. They got a soft schedule, 208 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, they can't hit lefties, but it might be 209 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: too early to pull the plug in these guys. 210 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: Bob, what would you say is the most surprising storyline 211 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: for a team so far this season, which which probably 212 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: I guess would be let's do it this way, a 213 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: surprise where you're like, Wow, they're much better than I 214 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: expected them to be. And then one super downer. I 215 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: know we've covered a couple of them already in Atlanta, 216 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: I guess Arizona to an extent, definitely Baltimore. 217 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 6: But what's one up one down for you that really 218 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 6: surprised you? 219 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: And the one up for sure is the one nobody 220 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: hardly talks about. Saint Louis Cardinals. I means unbelievable. What 221 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: they're doing as almost like that movie Major League, where 222 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: they're winning despite what the front office wants. 223 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: To do, and then they want to trade guys at the deadline. 224 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: They want to dump and get prospects, you know, whether 225 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: it's Ryan Helsley or a bunch of those guys. But 226 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: the way they're playing, you can't do it so to 227 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: kind of poil in the front office plans. I think 228 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: Oli Marmel has done an unbelievable job as manager there 229 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: then the on the on the flip end Uh, you know, 230 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: like you said, the two guys, you're talking about the 231 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: two teams the one though, it was probably the Texas Rangers. 232 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: I thought they had a chance to get to a 233 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: World Series and win it. They're number three in baseball 234 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: for e ra uh. 235 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: De Grom is back to being looking like the old 236 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: Jacob de Grom, But they just can't hit. I don't 237 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: you know. 238 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: I still tend to have a chance to recover, but 239 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: they've been very disappointing. I don't think May thought this 240 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: offense would be this bad. 241 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: Hey, Bob, did you see you saw the Marlins Rockies 242 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 4: attendance the other day? Did it remind you of the 243 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 4: Did you remind you of the Metrodome? Like around ninety 244 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: eight ninety nine when I was first coming up and 245 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: we'd have an eleven am game against I don't know, 246 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: any pick a team, any team not named the Yankees 247 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: of Red Sox, and there was about three hundred people 248 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 4: at those games. 249 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: Those are classics, those Saturday games at eleven o'clock in 250 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: the morning. Oh, you have to pull it by two o'clock. 251 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: Oh, we had a time limit. We had a time 252 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: limit so the Gophers could get the field ready to play. Oh, 253 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: a time limit work if the game ended, it was 254 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 4: the game ended it like it was like a three 255 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 4: hour timeline. We started like ten in the morning. 256 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 6: It's it's over. 257 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: Game's over. 258 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, yes, yes, yes, yes, a 259 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 5: big league game that would have ended on a time limit. 260 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: I've never heard this suspended. It would be suspended. 261 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, to get a college. 262 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: In exactly yeah everybody, Oh my. 263 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: Gosh, fans are anyway, So what difference to me? 264 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 4: That is true? Oh, they could get the double Edder. 265 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 4: You could get a bad Twins team, and you could 266 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: get the Gophers, which they weren't very good at football 267 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 4: at the time either, So you can get a double 268 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: edder just not good. But I did get to go 269 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: to some Gopher games, so that's kind of cool. 270 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they threw better remember. 271 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: Oh, there's no doubt about that. 272 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 6: That's true. 273 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 4: But what do you think I mean? Honestly though, what 274 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: about the Marlins? And we use the Rockies too, but 275 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 4: what are they gonna do the Marlins because they can't 276 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: get any traction in South Florida. Nobody likes going to 277 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: the stadium, even though it's air conditioned and all that, 278 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: but they just can't get any traction. There is there 279 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: any hope for the Marlins down the road. 280 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 281 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean people hate driving there just you know, it's 282 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: not a nothing to do around the area anyway, But 283 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: it takes to from Port Lauderdale scout Stock about taking 284 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: an hour and a half to two hours to get there. 285 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 6: You know. 286 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: The strange part is when WBC rolls around, it's electric. 287 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: It's a gress atmosphere outside of a World Series or 288 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: right there with a World Series. But they cannot get 289 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: people there during the season. I mean, they have no 290 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: choice but to win or people are gonna come out. 291 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: But you know, the cost is talking to the Martin's official. 292 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: So they lost money those three games because it costs 293 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: more to put on those three games again, you know, 294 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: than it did to actually play him. So with the Rockies, 295 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: by hiring all the concession people and staying workers, they 296 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: lost money because its entire at tenants I think was 297 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: one like nineteen thousand. 298 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: That's crazy, that's crazy. 299 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 5: Tens of people saw them play, but none of them 300 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 5: bought none of them bought beer. But I have to 301 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 5: go to something more positive for baseball Aaron Judge. The 302 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 5: season he's putting together this year, is it he stays 303 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 5: on the pace that he's at, will it be the 304 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: greatest offensive season we've ever seen. 305 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: No, it's still very Bonds. I mean, he's you can 306 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: arget Barry Bonds and gress players ever played the game. 307 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: But outside Barry Bonds, in my view, it's only right 308 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: up there for him to have this. 309 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: High of a bad average with the home runs. 310 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about Ted Williams days, those type 311 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: of things. So, but it's incredible to watch, fun to watch, 312 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: as you guys know, he's like the nicest guys. 313 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: Human beings are the base of the planet. Unbelievable. 314 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: So, I mean, his teammates said they'll love playing for 315 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: the Yankees just because he's on that team. It's unbelievable 316 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: what a leadership really has and just you know, bringing 317 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: guys over on the road to his suite, playing video games, 318 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: running out restaurants for families. 319 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: So it could happen to a better guy. 320 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 5: Is it too much to ask for him to be 321 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 5: the face of baseball because he's pretty reticent to do that. 322 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 5: He doesn't want to be the face of baseball, but 323 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 5: he is one of the best teammates ever, Like he 324 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 5: is all those things that you just said and more. 325 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 5: But the argument is, you know, he just he does 326 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 5: his interviews and he's not necessarily putting himself out there. 327 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 5: Is there an argument that we shouldn't make him do that? 328 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: No, I mean Jeter was the same way. Jeter very 329 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: uh you know, rarely opened up. Uh you know, and 330 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: he's doing things that Jeter never did. So No, I 331 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: think it's fine. And the thing about him, it's not 332 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: like he's not doing interviews where some guys will take 333 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: a whole series off. He's addressed in the media just 334 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: about every game, uh afterwards, doesn't matter if he goes, 335 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: oh for four hits three home runs. So no, I 336 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: think he is a face of baseball, and I think 337 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: he's comfortable with that. You know it' stuff for him 338 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: to go out and stuff to the sides. He talked 339 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: about going up to the Starbucks in Seattle and walking 340 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: across the street. 341 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: Everybody's falling him over there and things like that. You 342 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: sometimes you kind. 343 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: Of wish it he was six one or six two 344 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: and get away with it instead of being six seven 345 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: to eighty. 346 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: Well, is that why I hit the home run? Off 347 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: Dobbins because he's the he's the Yankees captain, and Dobbin 348 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: said he hates the Yankees last night and he's like, 349 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: I'll still you on the captain took it personal. That's right. 350 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait for the Red Sox Yankee games at 351 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: fend Away. Those fans are gonna go crazy cheering for him. 352 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean, now he's gonna be bel of it forever 353 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: at Fenwick. 354 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 6: That is an epic line. I will give it to him. 355 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 4: You know you're talking Aaron Judges. What about can we 356 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: give Kal Rawly some love? He actually has more homers 357 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: than anybody? 358 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: Right, Yep, that's true. 359 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 4: We talk about Cara a catcher with twenty five homers 360 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: or beginning of June. 361 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna see them the next three days. It's unbelievable. 362 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: I covered my Piazza with the Dodgers, and uh, that's 363 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: what your minding your money of. But you know, it 364 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: looks like he's a better defensive catcher than Piazza. Uh, 365 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: unbelievable the stuff he's doing. So yeah, no one talks 366 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: about him. I think as your places in Seattle, if 367 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: he was in New York, LA, you know, he'd be 368 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: on the news every single night. 369 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 6: It's summertime. 370 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: And if you want to let it all flow out 371 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: but the hair is thinning, there is a solution for 372 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: you and crats. 373 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 6: It's called Nutrifol. Tell the people what they need to do. 374 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: It's easy. 375 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: You just got to hit on neutrofol dot com and 376 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 5: use our code foul and I'll tell you why. Because 377 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 5: you're gonna have thicker hair. 378 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: That's it. 379 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: If that's your you want thicker hair, there's no other 380 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 5: place to go than neutrofol dot com and use the 381 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 5: code foul for. 382 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: US number one dermatologists recommended hair growth supplement brand trusted 383 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: by over one and a half million people. See thicker, stronger, 384 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: faster growing hair with less shedding in just three to 385 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: six months with Nutrifol. For a limited time, they're offering 386 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: the ftfam ten bucks off your first month subscription and 387 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: free shipping when you go to nutrofol dot com and 388 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 2: you enter the promo code foul foul find out why. 389 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: Over forty five hundred healthcare professionals and stylists recommend Nutrifol 390 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: for healthier hair. 391 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 4: Hey, no offense to Piazza, but he never won a 392 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 4: platinum glove. Okay, Piza never want a platinum gloves, Bob, 393 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 4: Let's be serious. He was on Baywatch. He was on 394 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 4: Baywatch and he had platinum hair, but he never won 395 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: a platinum glove. 396 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 6: Did they have platinum gloves back then? 397 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 4: No? 398 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 5: But he also was like me, we had skillets. We 399 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 5: had had skillets. You guys could both hit. You could 400 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 5: tell both of you can hit by the way you caught. 401 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 5: That's that's how you We could hit. 402 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: Hit you good hit. Even sometimes you'd have some of 403 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: the pitchers complaining about Piazza behind the plate, and time 404 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: Alosaurus said, okay, you want me to put the backup 405 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: catcher in. No, No, we'll take We'll take his two 406 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: home runs and five reviews every. 407 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 6: Night exactly, exactly. 408 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: Yes, hey, Bob, last one for you. When do you 409 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: think Shoeo Tani pitches in a major league game again? 410 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 6: And I know the Dodgers are doing fine. 411 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: I mean, they're not running away with the division by 412 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: any means, but does this season surprise you because we 413 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: talked so much about pitching injuries last year for them, 414 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: and we're not gonna have time for it on the 415 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: rest of the show. So I'll mention it now Tony 416 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: Gonslin heads to the shelf. He's got a little elbow discomfort. 417 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: So I think that makes it eight starters on the 418 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: il for this team. 419 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 6: What do you think. 420 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: I think we'll see him in August, but not before them. 421 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: But even in spring training, people are watching him say, 422 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: you know what, he could pitch for the Dodgers right now. 423 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: He could have been their opening day starter. But just 424 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: kind of slow playing them. It's like it had so 425 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: many injuries. They say, you know what, we want this 426 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: guy healthy come October. And even October they probably you know, 427 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: us them three four innings at a time. They're not 428 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: going to, you know, push them seven eight innings that. 429 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: Sort of thing. 430 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: So I think they're slow playing a lot of guys, 431 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, they don't want they don't want 432 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: the nightmare of the year ago, even though they won 433 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: the World Series, only have three starters, you know, limping 434 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: into the postseason right now. The only guy that can 435 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: trust is Yamamoto, and you know he's pitching like a 436 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: I saw a young candidate. 437 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: But I think they're just taking their sweet time. 438 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: Even if they had to push them, you know, Seyo 439 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: Tani it's with the potteris then in their team. 440 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: I think you'd definitely be a pitching right now. 441 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 4: And they only although Dodgers did last year was when 442 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: the World Series only three pitchers. But I have to 443 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 4: ask this. I saw this the other day, and I 444 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: don't know if it's if it's a real thing or 445 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: not ball, but you're deeper into this stuff than I am. 446 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: Before twenty twenty, I think it was the Dodgers had 447 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: the fewest or some of the fewest injur and then 448 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty they brought in the drive Line guys 449 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 4: and went heavy drive Line, and since then they've had 450 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 4: like the most injuries. Is there a coincidence or is that? 451 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: Is that something that's a real thing, because I've seen 452 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 4: it in a couple of different places now where it's 453 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: been mentioned. I don't know anything about drive Line other 454 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 4: than you see their videos and people go to them 455 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: to try to get better offensively and defensively. I don't 456 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: know what they do, but is that a real thing? 457 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 3: It's really could be. 458 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: I know in Boston they kind of hired the drab 459 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: line guys, and you know what, I'm like, they're lying 460 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: the world on fire. You talk to scouts that go 461 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: to those facilities, and everybody's high five and everybody when 462 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: they're throwing you ninety eight one hundred miles an hour, 463 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: the ball maybe twenty feet of the catcher's had have 464 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: no idea where he's throwing, but they know. They're kind 465 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: of saying, Okay, throw as hard as you can. If 466 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: you blow out, you blow out, you know, get your 467 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: money first. Uh, you know that sort of thing. So 468 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: I think that's a problem now, just hown't anybody knows 469 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: how to pitch, you know, Emma. Greg Maddox used to 470 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: always say, there's nothing better than just a control fastball. 471 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: And how many guys actually have that? 472 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: So it's almost like some teams could care less say, 473 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: you know what, we'll grab you guys they get hurt, 474 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: spin them up. 475 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 3: We'll bring them, bring in some new guys. 476 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: Where it's become such a thing where some agentsert are 477 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: saying they don't want their guy who's drafted by searching 478 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: clubs for that reason. 479 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 6: Mmm. Wow, that's interesting. You don't have a lot of 480 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 6: control of that. 481 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 4: But this is in the NFL. This isn't We don't 482 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: have a deon Sanders, Bob Okay, we can't tell them 483 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 4: where to draft shador. I want him to go to Cleveland, 484 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 4: dang it. 485 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: But you can say, hey, I'm not gonna take slot money. 486 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm taking over slot money, or you better go move 487 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: on to next guy. 488 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: You can do that. 489 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: True, Hey you got one. Yeah, you better be damn 490 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 4: good to be pulling that off up. 491 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: That's true. But hey, it's interesting to hear Bob. Great stuff. 492 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 2: Great to have you back on. Give Bob a follow 493 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: if you don't already at b Nightingale and check out 494 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: his articles, including the Sunday column that he puts together 495 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: on USA Today. 496 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 6: Thanks Bob, good talking to you, you too. 497 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: Nice guys, Take care. 498 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: Let's dive into a really strong article on Friday that 499 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: might have gotten lost in all the other headlines from 500 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: the weekend in Major League Baseball. Dan Hayes covers the 501 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: Twins for The Athletic. Did some really good reporting and 502 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: had some interesting quotes come out of this story on 503 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: the twins recent series in Sacramento, the Twins lost their 504 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: ace Pablo Lopez to a shoulder injury for probably a 505 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: couple months, and actually, since that article is Zebbie Matthews, 506 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: who also pitched in Sacramento, has gone down with a 507 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 2: shoulder injury. Let's bring up the pitching side of things first. 508 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: Joe Ryan went through a similar shoulder injury last year 509 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: to what Pablo Lopez is dealing with, and he said 510 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 2: about Sacramento, the first thing I thought of was Zach 511 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: Wheeler saying I was all armed when I was pitching. 512 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 6: There does that play into that? 513 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 2: And he said, I don't think Pablo is the kind 514 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: of guy that's going to say the mound was the issue, 515 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: but I'll say it. 516 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 6: They said the mound was I guess firm, rock solid, which. 517 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: Happened to be the case with the batter's box as well, 518 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: which we'll get to. There are a ton of issues, 519 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: of course, with playing in a minor league park that's 520 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: also getting double dipped with. 521 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 6: A minor league team. 522 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: Do you think there's anything to this Zach Wheeler saying 523 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 2: them all armed and then these shoulder injuries popping up. 524 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 4: I think there's something to the field not being up 525 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: to major league standards because they're also every time they 526 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 4: go on the road, it's being used by the Giants' 527 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: Triple A team, so it never gets a break and 528 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 4: the lay around screw doesn't get to fix it properly 529 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: so it's always in use. And is there something to it? 530 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: If they say there's something to it, I don't know. 531 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: I didn't pitch, but I would definitely think that there's 532 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 4: something to it. And you know, this isn't the first 533 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: thing with this whole thing Sevarino's talked about and he 534 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: pitches there. Visiting teams have talked about not being able 535 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 4: to do their normal warm up stuff. Hitters that are 536 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 4: having a hard time because they can't hit before they 537 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: have to go pinch it. So listen, Yeah, there's something 538 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: to it. I don't know what, but if Joe Ryan 539 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 4: says he thinks it is, and I'm gonna go with him, yeah, 540 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 4: I agree. 541 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if you remember AJ but 542 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 5: Roger Center, the whatever it's called now or whatever it 543 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 5: was called, the sky Dome, the roof's open on a 544 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 5: hot Sunday day game that John gets like concrete and 545 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 5: it breaks apart. What if you started and it was 546 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 5: wet and you were moldeds. I never had the issue 547 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 5: because I had medals on, but guys that were moldeds, 548 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 5: You're gonna slide around later in the game. Now, think 549 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 5: about it. If you're out in Sacramento, and that field 550 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 5: is being used essentially twelve straight days because they do 551 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 5: get off Mondays when Sacramento comes in town. It's just 552 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 5: not going to it's just not going to get fixed 553 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 5: the way it should be, the way it should be 554 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 5: covered and stay wet and stay tacky. 555 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 4: You know you're talking about you're talking abou about Toronto, 556 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: right Toronto. I remember Darren Ur said, Remember Darren Ur 557 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: said he was a pretty good player. He took a 558 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: pitch in Toronto and both feet went like this and 559 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 4: he went on the aisle with a pulled groin. He 560 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 4: literally just took a pitch and it was so hard 561 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: and he had moldeds on and both feet went and 562 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 4: he pulled. Oh, it's unbelievable, brutal. It was. We used 563 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 4: to have guys fault all the time in Toronto. I 564 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 4: was a molded guy. It had to be. I mean, 565 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 4: it was like that's the one part where he had 566 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: to like dig in because it was it was. Yeah, 567 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: it was like it was it'd be like playing on 568 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 4: this desk or like the slick concrete crats. You know, 569 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 4: there were certain stadiums that had like that slick concrete 570 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 4: and you had to shuffle your feet because if you 571 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 4: stepped on it. You're right, it was like ice scanning. 572 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: That's what Toronto's home plate was, Like, that's what I'm 573 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: assuming Sacramentos. 574 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 5: Is like, that's totally and that's that's a bigger thing 575 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 5: than people. They don't understand, Like people are gonna tell us, well, 576 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 5: they need to suck it up. What's gonna end up 577 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 5: happening if enough pitchers or position players plane, major League 578 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 5: Baseball is gonna step in and say, Okay, we're gonna 579 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 5: help them and we're gonna make sure so they're just 580 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 5: you know, major League Baseball is just you know, covering. 581 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: They're just that. 582 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 5: They're a helicopter parent for the A's right now, until 583 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 5: they get all this stuff figured out, Like this should 584 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 5: be the standard. This is why it's in the CBA. 585 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 5: There's a standard playing surface. You go and play in London, 586 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 5: aj you know this. You go and play in London, 587 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 5: you go play in Mexico. The field has to be 588 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 5: up to a certain standard that Major League Baseball makes 589 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 5: it up to. And yet ah, you know what the A's, Oh, 590 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 5: they have just they have a plight of issues. So 591 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 5: we're just gonna make whatever they want to do is five. 592 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: Carlos Carea said, it's the worst batter's box he's ever 593 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: stepped in. He was over compensating with his back not 594 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: to slip like many of his teammates were doing. And 595 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 2: he eventually said, you know what, sitting out the last 596 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: two games of this series, I'm not sacrificing two months 597 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: of a season for a couple of at bats. 598 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 6: Here all so well aware. 599 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he's had injuries issues in the past, he said, 600 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: to testing and confirmis hypothesis. He hit on flat ground 601 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: in the indoor batting cages and he was like, I'm 602 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: totally fine. So he was trying different things like bar 603 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: and spikes from Ryan Jeffers, and eventually he was just like, 604 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: this is not major league quality. 605 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 6: I don't want to get hurt. 606 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 5: Oh well, guys, guys used to go into Toronto when 607 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 5: the turf was brutal in Toronto and they'd come out 608 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 5: of the they'd come out of. 609 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 4: It, Oh, my back is wretched. 610 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 5: I don't know how the Metrodome was. I mean, you 611 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 5: were like nineteen when you got call up to the 612 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 5: big league, so I guess that's different. 613 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: But guys just have to give teams. Used to give 614 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 4: guys off time off in the Metronome because we had 615 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 4: the old crappy turf all the time. Now we were 616 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 4: used to it. We could get away with it because 617 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 4: we played on it every day. But teams would come 618 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 4: in with some veteran guys and they couldn't play him 619 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: all three games because they were like, yeah, backs, hamstrings. 620 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 4: It was just a different thing. 621 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 6: Don't worry. 622 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: We're getting close to that time period in Sacramento where 623 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: it gets to like one hundred and ten degrees, So 624 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: maybe the batter's box will be less firm when it 625 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: melts to the ground. 626 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, And also the field will only get better because 627 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll be able to, you know, keep up 628 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: with the water and being played on every day. It's 629 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 4: gonna be off. It's gonna be off. That's it. 630 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: That's why we talk about it, and then hopefully someone 631 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: listens and works on it.