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Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touchdown. What's up?

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Speaker 2: Guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly.

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Speaker 2: We are presented by SPLITTERO Money.

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Speaker 3: He's bad.

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Speaker 4: Ba Jalila dies back in the mix.

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Speaker 5: He tried to get out, man, he tried to go

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Speaker 5: into civilian lives.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just I thought he was out.

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Speaker 3: I missed my brothers. I miss my brother Definitely.

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Speaker 4: We're thrilled to have you.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: You'll look going to join us throughout the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five seasons. So that's a win for everybody. And guys,

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Speaker 2: you know it's it's Thursday, taking us on a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we rewind a little bit to Sunday. Saw

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Speaker 2: some good things Money. Any observations that you start with.

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Speaker 5: Everybody thinks I talk too much anyways, start with Okay, Julie,

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Speaker 5: you go, especially since the secondary played so well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, secondary played well.

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Speaker 6: Right, You've seen the two picks right, one pick six

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Speaker 6: obviously you know ending with the.

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Speaker 3: Injurie, you never liked that pulling forward.

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Speaker 6: But my biggest thing for me is when we talked

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Speaker 6: about it, Chris, when we're covering the game just last year,

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Speaker 6: at this time of the year, Jesse Miner's defense. It's

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Speaker 6: and people might say it is because I'm a defensive guy,

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Speaker 6: but his defense showed up last year in the preseason

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Speaker 6: and it rolled over into the season. This year has

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Speaker 6: been the same story, right, And it doesn't matter who

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Speaker 6: it is he plugs and plays. These guys are second string,

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Speaker 6: third string, and these guys are putting out a product

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Speaker 6: that it would look like if the first team was there.

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Speaker 6: So that's what I was mostly impressed.

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Speaker 2: With Nico Reid in Canton and then Eric Rodgers with

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Speaker 2: two interceptions money. That's the one thing I think has

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Speaker 2: been crystal clear is this team looks prepared, especially in

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Speaker 2: the first half football games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know, people fans focus on players, which is understandable.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're the ones that are on the field

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Speaker 5: that have their names on the back of the jerseys,

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Speaker 5: the jerseys that they decide to wear the games. They

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Speaker 5: don't focus on coaches. And you said it, Jillill, it's

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Speaker 5: not just Jesse. I mean, look, he's the straw that

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Speaker 5: stirs the drink, but the position coaches and you've worked

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Speaker 5: with him and Chris, we've been around him. So it's

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Speaker 5: just it's such a good staff and I think that's

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Speaker 5: where ord of the special sauce of the Chargers is.

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Speaker 5: It's not just Jim Harbaugh or Jesse Minner or Ryan

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Speaker 5: Ficken and Greg Roman. It's all of those coaches underneath them.

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Speaker 5: And you know what Klink is doing with the DBS.

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Speaker 5: I think we were wondering at Chris O'Leary did such

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Speaker 5: a great job last year with Elijah Molden and those safeties,

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Speaker 5: and you're seeing these safeties pick up. I mean, you

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Speaker 5: had Miles Purchase out there playing free safety for the

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Speaker 5: and he was sensational.

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Speaker 1: So I think it just goes to show you that, like.

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Speaker 5: That's the one thing that maybe people aren't and it's understandable.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to know who the position coaches are, but

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Speaker 5: we say their name so often because we know how

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Speaker 5: important they are. And it's like you said, Juliel, it

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Speaker 5: doesn't matter, or you said it Chris Nico. One week,

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Speaker 5: it's Eric Rodgers, both undrafted free agents. It's back to

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Speaker 5: back weeks it's Marlo Wax, who I thought pop more

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Speaker 5: than anyone in in that Saints game because they're getting

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Speaker 5: good players with great coaching, and now you got kind

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Speaker 5: of what's happening with these Chargers.

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Speaker 3: There's another name I want to bring up in those

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Speaker 3: Arjent Mickens. Well talking about him.

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Speaker 6: He had two really good quiet games over the last

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Speaker 6: two preseason games. Looks like to be a truly sure tackler.

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Speaker 6: He's in the right position at the right time. And

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Speaker 6: as a safety, most people, well should know that, don't know.

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Speaker 6: You're the quarterback of the defense, right, You're the quarterback

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Speaker 6: You're trying to figure out what my job is before

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Speaker 6: change the coverage. So Argent Mickens has really put out

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Speaker 6: a good blueprint the first two games.

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Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, mckens fifty nine snaps in that

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Speaker 2: game Sunday. He was the highest graded rookie safety in

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Speaker 2: pre season Week one, according to Pro Football Focus and Julie,

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Speaker 2: you're the perfect person to ask. We talk about the

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Speaker 2: competition in the secondary, from Nico Reid last week to

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Speaker 2: Mickens and what Eric Rodgers has done. You mentioned purchase

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Speaker 2: take me inside as an undrafted guy, the competition and

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Speaker 2: just how fierce it is because these.

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Speaker 4: Games are like super Bowls to those guys in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you said it right, like you said it right.

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Speaker 6: Excuse me, Chris, Like these are the super Bowl because

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Speaker 6: you know when you come in, the NFL is a

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Speaker 6: into it at being a young guy, and it's a business, right,

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Speaker 6: you know, if I come in undrafted, they didn't invest

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Speaker 6: to make your nick to my coach would always say,

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Speaker 6: how to make the team, to get paid, you have

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Speaker 6: to flash on films. So if you're a hard hitter,

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Speaker 6: be a hard hitter, if you intercept the ball. Intercept

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Speaker 6: I get out there, I got a flash. What however

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Speaker 6: a lot of guys tend to forget about. It's special teams.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna make the roster on special teams. And a

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Speaker 6: lot of times you comeing as undrafted free agent. You

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Speaker 3: It may be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you said it with Mickens, and that

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Speaker 5: goes with Marlow Wax as well. When you go back

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Speaker 5: you know, you look at Wax and he's got nine

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Speaker 5: tackles in that game, nine solo tackles. It's him and

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Speaker 5: I thought it was the best tackle that we saw

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Speaker 5: and I think it probably speaks to the room a lot.

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Speaker 1: With Mickens.

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Speaker 5: I think it's sort of what's interesting about roster construction, right,

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Speaker 5: It's not it's not just who are the fifty three

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Speaker 5: that to me is one of the more interesting names

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Speaker 5: to watch when it comes time to make this fifty

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Speaker 5: three Chris Is, you know you're talking about carrying five safeties.

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Speaker 5: the fifty three because I think there's a handful of players.

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Speaker 5: You put them on the practice squad, they're gonna get plucked.

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Speaker 6: And just you mentioned Tony and we were watching from

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Speaker 3: I tend to look at different stuff.

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Speaker 6: And once the pick six happened, he threw the ball

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Speaker 3: The ball guy ran and grabbed the ball.

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Speaker 6: Tony Jefferson sprints from the bench and chases the ball

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Speaker 6: guy down, like, no, no, no, even that ball I got. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: He's like, I got to get this ball to the rookie.

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Speaker 6: This is gonna be a keepsake, right, So listen, Tony Jefferson.

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Speaker 6: I came in with Tony Jefferson to see him playing

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Speaker 6: at the level that he's still playing at, right, and

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Speaker 6: not only what he's doing on the field, you mentioned it,

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Speaker 3: But I will say, like carrying five.

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Speaker 6: Safeties are in the safety's favor right now because they

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Speaker 2: It's such a veteran laden room because you know, we

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Speaker 2: haven't talked much about Elijah Bolden. We should because he's

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Speaker 2: kind of ramping his way back in the form. But

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Speaker 4: Derwin ALOHI, Elijah Tony. What a room to learn from

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Speaker 2: To have that to have that versatility in that room.

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Speaker 2: And I think we've talked about the fact that Elijah

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Speaker 2: much that hurt them in that Houston Wildcard game. But

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Speaker 2: you know, Jesse Minter, he even said at the podium,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think you know, we looked at

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Speaker 5: the guaranteed money for Benjamin Saint Ustin. He's been banged

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Speaker 5: this could be a casualty because of how good these

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Speaker 5: and you just hear the effusive praise that coach Minter

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Speaker 5: because he's different. You know, he's a different body type.

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Speaker 5: You look at at Saints, he's a big dude. He's big,

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Speaker 5: he's physical. Yeah, I mean, he's typically a press man guy,

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Speaker 5: and we know that that's what Jesse wants to start

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Speaker 5: playing more of. So I think you hit it on

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Speaker 5: the head, Chris.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: We see him last year play make plenty of players

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Speaker 6: He's practicing like he's playing now, so he's gonna get

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Speaker 6: Obviously cam Hart's his size is you know, you can't

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Speaker 2: So you know who's come alive is number ninety nine,

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Speaker 6: seen him make that play on the film, I said, yeah,

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Speaker 6: this is why they and grat him in a third You.

436
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Speaker 4: Lose poona Ford, but you bring in cold Well.

437
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Speaker 2: And I think there's just so much deeper collectively with

438
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Speaker 2: with Tart and Tito and Hand and Jones. I mean,

439
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Speaker 2: it's a rotation that I really think that you can

440
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Speaker 2: go into each and every week rotating.

441
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Speaker 5: Like five or six guys, And that's what they told us.

442
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Speaker 5: That's one thing I like about this. You know this

443
00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,200
Speaker 5: staff is they tell you and then they show you.

444
00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,160
Speaker 5: You know, jesse Miner was very upfront. He said, look,

445
00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,879
Speaker 5: we lost Poona and we made up for it with quantities,

446
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Speaker 5: like it wasn't one player. We knew we were going

447
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Speaker 5: to have to go out and get a couple and hope,

448
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,399
Speaker 5: you know, the freshness by rotating those guys in was

449
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Speaker 5: going to help make up for that loss. And then

450
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Speaker 5: you hope one of these guys pops and I think

451
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Speaker 5: you can make it. Look Tito has looked great. I

452
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Speaker 5: think for you know, Tierre looks like he's ready to

453
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Speaker 5: take that next step. I think he said, hey, put

454
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Speaker 5: a finger on which guy's going to replace Poona. Is

455
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Speaker 5: that it would be Tierre. But what called well has

456
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Speaker 5: shown and I think that was sort of some of

457
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Speaker 5: the magic from last year is that they had these

458
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Speaker 5: depth pieces, and the depth ultimately is what showed out.

459
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Speaker 5: You know, it was originally gonna be what two safeties,

460
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Speaker 5: It was gonna be Durwin and Eloi and they were

461
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Speaker 5: probably gonna play high and then all of a sudden,

462
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Speaker 5: like now let's let's just put during it. Elijah's coming

463
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Speaker 5: along so far. He remember he didn't show up till

464
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Speaker 5: late August and O'Leary just you know, from what we

465
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Speaker 5: heard was just with him hours and hours and Elijah

466
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Speaker 5: put in all that time. And to me, that's what

467
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Speaker 5: unlocked to this defense was putting Durwin at that big nickel.

468
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Speaker 5: And that's kind of what we're talking about. How do

469
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Speaker 5: you replace poona Well, if Jamari Caldwell's giving you what

470
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Speaker 5: ten fifteen maybe twenty snaps a game, like, yeah, that's

471
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Speaker 5: how you do it.

472
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Speaker 6: Well, it's definitely because they're gonna it's because an NFL game,

473
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Speaker 6: you're gonna average it's probably about sixty sixty sixty five

474
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Speaker 6: plays right coming from college's easily eighty five ninety. And

475
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Speaker 6: you talk about the depth, and it's so big in

476
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Speaker 6: the NFL because you get banged up weekend, week out

477
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Speaker 6: in these seventeen eighteen games and you're just fighting every week.

478
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Speaker 6: You're getting body working. Guys get injured. It's one hundred

479
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Speaker 6: percent injury rate. We all know that, right, And you

480
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Speaker 6: the teams who drive the best in December and January,

481
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Speaker 6: or teams who have depth and have guys who come

482
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Speaker 6: in and it's the next man up mentality, right, But

483
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Speaker 6: here they don't talk about the next man up mentality.

484
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Speaker 3: It's almost like you got to know.

485
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Speaker 6: Listen, you're on the roster for a reason, on the

486
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Speaker 6: fifty three for a reason, and at any point in

487
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Speaker 6: time we can count on you.

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Speaker 5: I do want to correct myself because I'm looking at

489
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Speaker 5: it now. I had to go back and watch the

490
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Speaker 5: sack so because it was shuck, Yeah, he's going to

491
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Speaker 5: get a second team. Oh line, So it was not

492
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Speaker 5: uh Ruiz and Penning instead it was or McCoy i

493
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Speaker 5: should say, and Penning.

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Speaker 1: It was still impressive.

495
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Speaker 5: I don't want the you know who that come after

496
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Speaker 5: me charges they mentioned exactly so, but still again impressive second,

497
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Speaker 5: you know, getting double teams, and it's you know, it's

498
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Speaker 5: one of the nice things about having this this tool.

499
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Speaker 5: Just watching him. I mean he is so far away, Chris,

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Speaker 5: I'll let you see it so you can just kind

501
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Speaker 5: of watch. I mean, you see where he is here

502
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 5: is he gets engaged double teamed. He's looking look at him,

503
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Speaker 5: peeking through those two helmets that are double team in him,

504
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Speaker 5: and as soon as he sees a move, just shed

505
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Speaker 5: and go.

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Speaker 1: Man. It was impressive, even impressive.

507
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 2: The ten snafts, maybe fifteen to twenty very quickly, like

508
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 2: maybe the first four weeks of the year, and you

509
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 2: mentioned like next man up so.

510
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Speaker 5: And hey, he wasn't even the best guy on the

511
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Speaker 5: defensive line, by the way.

512
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Speaker 1: Caleb Murphy.

513
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Speaker 2: You know, we talk about guys like Kyle Canard and

514
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 2: Junior Colson didn't play in that game, but Derwin heaped

515
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Speaker 2: the praise on Wax. Caleb Murphy man so farris state

516
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 2: his senior year division two twenty five and a half sacks.

517
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Speaker 2: This guy comes from the Tennessee Titans, and I think

518
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Speaker 2: somebody I forgot who it was, but said Charger is

519
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 2: getting all these old Titans from Elijah Mouldener Tartan now

520
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Speaker 2: Caleb Murphy.

521
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Speaker 4: But talk about producing.

522
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Speaker 2: When your numbers called two sacks in this game, and

523
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Speaker 2: you and I were sitting next to each other right

524
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Speaker 2: before the half, just like, dude, this guy has made

525
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Speaker 2: the team.

526
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Speaker 4: He has made the team some way. What do you

527
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Speaker 4: think from the fourth and.

528
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Speaker 2: Fifth edge rusher perspective, because kind of Canard was going

529
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Speaker 2: to be the fourth guy, but you gotta be on

530
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Speaker 2: the field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been hampered with injury.

532
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Speaker 6: And we talked about Caleb and we talked about he

533
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Speaker 6: showed what he had in his bag, right on those

534
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 6: two different sacks, right, and he one was speed the

535
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 6: power right down the left, tackles chest and then another

536
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Speaker 6: time he showed hip hips get on the edge, swipe

537
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Speaker 6: and get around and get a strip sack on this

538
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Speaker 6: first one.

539
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Speaker 3: Right.

540
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 6: So he's shown that he has an arsenal. And like

541
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 6: you said, you can't make the club in the tub.

542
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 6: They would always say it. And that's why I was

543
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 6: so big on, you know, keeping my body fresh, because listen,

544
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Speaker 6: this is the most competitive business in the world, right,

545
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 6: and one guy you go down, the next guy steps

546
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 6: up in your position, and that can be the last

547
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Speaker 6: time you step on the field.

548
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Speaker 3: Right.

549
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Speaker 6: So Canard not being able to produce has given Murphy

550
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Speaker 6: an opportunity and he's taking full advantage of it.

551
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you said fourth or fifth. I think

552
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Speaker 5: I don't think there's any question, Chris. Just and look,

553
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 5: he's making the fifty three because he's a core four guy.

554
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 5: And we talked about that earlier. So and he was

555
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 5: on the team last year. You know, he got elevated

556
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 5: from that practice squad had a couple of games and

557
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Speaker 5: you know you kind of mentioned it, Chris, and I'd

558
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Speaker 5: love to kind of get your take on it Jalil

559
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 5: because there is something about that about the Tennessee thing

560
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 5: and whatever Vrabel was running in Tennessee because it's Christian

561
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 5: Fulton played at a high level, got a big contract.

562
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 5: Forgets Elijah mentioned Fulton played at a high level, got

563
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 5: a big contract. Tier Tart played at a high level.

564
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 5: You know, a cast off in Miami. They're just like,

565
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 5: we just didn't want to deal with you show and

566
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 5: we talked about it, Chris. We're like, this is the guy.

567
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 5: This is a guy that Chargers have to go out

568
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 5: and get. He fits so perfect with what they like

569
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 5: to do, and in those limited reps flashes gets himself

570
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 5: a nice chunk of a contract. I think he was

571
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Speaker 5: an undrafted free agent if I remember right, So you

572
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 5: get a one year, five million dollar deal, man.

573
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Speaker 1: That's a nice chunk of change.

574
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Speaker 5: Not to mention they're gonna get all that playing time

575
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 5: and go back into free agency next year. Same with Poona.

576
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 5: Ford wasn't in the rotation in Buffalo. Somehow They're like

577
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Speaker 5: that's the guy. And I think, so, I don't know,

578
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 5: Jilio as you played in Houston or something. Is there

579
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Speaker 5: something about do you think there's front offices that are like, yeah,

580
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 5: that's they're doing over in Tennessee. What we and Caleb

581
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Speaker 5: Murphy's the fourth one. What we do here, And it's

582
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Speaker 5: a good fit if we can get these players with

583
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Speaker 5: traits that we like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're really clost money. And I think is more

585
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Speaker 6: so because I don't know what Tennessee runs, right, and

586
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 6: it's probably that they run something very familiar, and they

587
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Speaker 6: see these guys can fit in our system. Not only

588
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 6: can they fit in our system, they know the system.

589
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 6: So when we bring them in they can we can

590
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Speaker 6: implement them into the system and playing time.

591
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Speaker 3: Now, right.

592
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Speaker 6: But the front office, that's shout out to the front office.

593
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 6: They're doing the due diligence. They're doing their work. They're

594
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 6: seeing what defenses run similar schemes around the NFL, and

595
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 6: it seems like it's the Tennessee Titans, and they're like, hey.

596
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 6: They always say one man's trash is another man's treasure, right,

597
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 6: and the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

598
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 6: And the Chargers love some X Titans.

599
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Speaker 2: The fact that Tart and Molden it was like two

600
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Speaker 2: or three weeks into camp that the Tart became a Charger.

601
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Speaker 2: The I think at the end of camp where Molden

602
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: came into the fold, so they both came in late.

603
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 2: So I think it gives us some perspective too. It's like,

604
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Speaker 2: you can look at this roster now that's currently constructed

605
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: in mid August, they could find two more starters at

606
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Speaker 2: the end of August or when when cutdown day comes,

607
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Speaker 2: or via trade. Georgie's has proved and that he's not

608
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: afraid to keep churning the roster and to be able

609
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Speaker 2: to find those guys has just been remarkable.

610
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Speaker 1: You flip it to do you know Shane Bowen?

611
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Speaker 3: I don't.

612
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Shane was there. He was in Houston, but

613
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 5: I think it was before you were there. So Bowen

614
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 5: was there, was there DC under Vrable, he's now the

615
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 5: DC in New York. We saw how good that defense

616
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Speaker 5: was last year Despoue how bad. So that's a dude

617
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 5: that knows how to coach d So for some reason,

618
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Speaker 5: that's that's the dude that they saw coordinating the defense

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Speaker 5: that they liked. It was way before you sixteen seventeen. Yeah,

620
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Speaker 5: because I know you were here when you rolled up

621
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Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: He's got Thibodeau Burns and Abdul Carter coming off the

623
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Speaker 2: edge that the charges will see in week.

624
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Speaker 5: Four, Dexter Lawrence argued, but that greatest screen on the

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Speaker 5: chessboard on the defensive side of the ball.

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635
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Speaker 2: of the difference in style of play from week zero

636
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Speaker 2: to week one. The running back position is getting very

637
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Speaker 2: very interesting. Marion Hampton didn't play. There's a reason for

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Speaker 2: that because I think we know who a Marian Hampton

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Speaker 2: is going to become.

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Speaker 1: Brazil.

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Speaker 2: Najie Harris is still working to the side, so his

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Speaker 2: availability tbd. But between Haskins Videll, we got to see

643
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Speaker 2: Rocket Sanders, Nahiem Hines, who I know had a couple

644
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Speaker 2: of fumbles and one loss. But those four guys, man

645
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: and listen, I want to see a little bit more

646
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: Rocket Sanders, you know, seeing what he did in South Carolina,

647
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Speaker 2: to see that fourth quarter in some of the some

648
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Speaker 2: of the runs that he had. I don't know if

649
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: you and DJ spoke about Rocket.

650
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: And just we didn't, Yeah did?

651
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Speaker 4: What do you guys have to say?

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Speaker 1: Well?

653
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 5: Just you know, I think we've talked about it before too.

654
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: There's you know, when you look at the undrafted free

655
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 5: agents and you see the guy that's got the biggest number,

656
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 5: and that's Raheem Sanders. Sixty grand, you know, was his guarantee.

657
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 5: It's the highest. Second highest was Nico at forty grand.

658
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 5: So those are the guys that you're like, okay, if

659
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 5: you want to handicap, who's going to make the team.

660
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 5: It's the guys that got the most money. So and

661
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 5: that's why they enticed him to come here ahead of

662
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 5: other teams. He just fits what they do. You know,

663
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 5: They signed Gus Edwards, they signed Najie Harris, they drafted

664
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 5: Amari and Hampton six foot two twenty Like, what's Raheem Sanders?

665
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 5: He's six foot two thirty five and four four or

666
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 5: four guy, and I think the one knock on him, DJ,

667
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 5: I shouldn't say a knock. The one thing that DJ said,

668
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 5: you know, coming out of South Carolina that was a

669
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 5: concern is can he give you anything in the passing game,

670
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 5: because that just wasn't there. There was no evidence that

671
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 5: that was something that was in his bag. There he's

672
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 5: even on the field, so it's like, can he pass pro?

673
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 5: Can he catch the ball on the backfield? That's sort

674
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 5: of what you want to see him. What do we see?

675
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 5: We saw him put him out, you know, in the route,

676
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 5: and he was fine, you know, caught it, had a

677
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 5: nice little move, little juke move when he after he

678
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 5: caught the ball. And then I think you talked about

679
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 5: the four to for Jaliel. You know you saw it.

680
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 5: You know the way that play was schemed up, hole

681
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 5: gets plugged, bounces it, and he's able to beat the

682
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 5: corner to the pylon. So that kind of tells you, Okay,

683
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 5: he's got everything. They said, dude, that's got power, he's

684
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 5: got speed, and he's got some vision to catch that ball.

685
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: Money. I came out at the wrong time sixty thousand.

686
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: I came a couple.

687
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: I mean like two thousand dollars.

688
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: And that's what most guys get.

689
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 5: Like if you look at the Chargers undrafted free agents,

690
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 5: it's going to be between two and six grand. So

691
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 5: that's why sixty K is like, Okay, they want this.

692
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 5: This guy's probably gonna make the team.

693
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 6: And you made a good point money because you talk

694
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 6: about Okay Naji and then you have a Mari and Hampton. Right,

695
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 6: So the third running back typically is your third down back,

696
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 6: scat back. We you know, get him out into the

697
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 6: backfield screens, get the ball in his hands, and that's

698
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 6: where it's that's going to be the difference, I think,

699
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 6: right and playing with Naim Hines and Indy, that's all

700
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 6: he was right, he passed tech.

701
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: He's a kick return of punk return.

702
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 6: Obviously had those muffs unfortunately in the game last week.

703
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: But he's a guy that's really shifting.

704
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 6: He's a really good third down back that you can

705
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 6: get involved into the passing game.

706
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 3: So I think the battle is going to be one there.

707
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 6: I think they have their first and second down backs

708
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 6: basically with naj being healthy if he's able to play,

709
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 6: but the third back is going to be.

710
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 3: Based on what you can do in the passing game.

711
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: That's my opinion.

712
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: So I think we're let's let's think positive and say, na,

713
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 2: he's gonna be ready to go.

714
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 3: Let's just say that.

715
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 5: Okay, I'd like to say that, but I think reality

716
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 5: suggests that that's probably not going to be the case. Okay,

717
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 5: I would, I would, Yeah, I would love. So you

718
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 5: want to let's I think let's go to college.

719
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're doing. We're doing the hypothetical best case and

720
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: the worst case.

721
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: So the first is that we know Marien Hampton, Naji

722
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: Harris and we I think we would agree Haskins is

723
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: going to make the team because of the special teams.

724
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 5: Right and you know what he's you could make a

725
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 5: case he's been the best looking back.

726
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the two preseason game.

727
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: So this so this competitionally comes down to Rocket Sanders,

728
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: Keimani Videl, who I think has had a good preseason,

729
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: and Naim Miller Hines. So if you if today who's

730
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: that third that third running back with Haskins making those.

731
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: I think Haskins is definitely on the team.

732
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 6: I'm going Hines because of his return ability right kickoff.

733
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 5: Which is where those muffed punts come in, and You're.

734
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 6: Like, exactly, now, if they can oversee that and he

735
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 6: can come to these next two games and show them

736
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 6: to hey, I clean that up.

737
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: I just know playing with him, how explosive he is.

738
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 6: Went to Buffalo after the Theamar Hamlin scary injury. The

739
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 6: next following week, he took a kicker turn back one

740
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 6: hundred yards, Like he has the ability to be able

741
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 6: to produce on special teams.

742
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: And that's the only reason I'm going in that direction. Yeah,

743
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: were you at.

744
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 5: Money, Well, I think for me, so in that in

745
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 5: that column where Naji Hampton Haskins are there, yeah, I

746
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 5: think the fourth guy is probably between viidell And and

747
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: Nahim Miller Hines. I think that's kind of how you

748
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 5: would probably because you have Haskins, who was great in

749
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 5: short yardage last year, who's shown that he has the

750
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 5: ability to carry the ball if you want to give

751
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 5: him five six ten carries per game and be very physical.

752
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 5: But and all three of those guys are similar, you know,

753
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: they're big powerback guys. So I think that that would

754
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: be sort of your battle. And I think Kamani's kind

755
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 5: of getting lost in this because he struggled last year

756
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 5: in pass pro. But what I've seen so far this

757
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: year is a different dude. I think he's looked great.

758
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 5: He's been explosive, he's been physical. I think he's been

759
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 5: much better in pass pro. They drafted him for a

760
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 5: reason last year, so I don't think he's out of

761
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 5: this mix at all. I think it's probably the tightest

762
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 5: competition of any room here because they're not carrying five.

763
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not happening.

764
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 5: So I think the question is if if you keep

765
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 5: if you keep Nahim, can you get Kamani through on

766
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 5: the practice squad? And I think the answer is probably yes.

767
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 5: If you keep Kamani, can you get Nahim through on

768
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 5: the practice squad? I think the answer probably no. I

769
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 5: think a teams might come get him because of what

770
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 5: you said. You know, look, most of these punt returners

771
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 5: tend to be smaller guys. You know, there's not a

772
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 5: lot of Courterill Patterson's out there, so that leaves them

773
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 5: open to injury. And if you can have a backup

774
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 5: guy like Hines, if something were to happen at Double

775
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: ded like I think that sort of plays into that. Now,

776
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 5: if you want to start Chris, you can start in

777
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 5: the other column where now she's on the you know,

778
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 5: he's on the he's on the he's out the first

779
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 5: four weeks. If that's the way this shakes up, and

780
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 5: I think that opens up a much more interesting conversation.

781
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: Well it does, and you know you mentioned this with

782
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: the wide receivers too. I think at the beginning of

783
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: camp money uh, we tend to fall in love with

784
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: some of these guys, but they end up coming back

785
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: on the practice squad. So that's I think the main

786
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: point is, Okay, what guy can you get back on

787
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: the practice squad versus you know, Listen, some people may

788
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: think that there's a reason why rocket teams got sixty grand,

789
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: maybe because a lot of teams wanted them. So if

790
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: there's if there's a team out there that sees that

791
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: he popped against the Saints and he has a really

792
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: good game against the Rams, maybe that's a player that

793
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: you can't keep on the practice squad because somebody.

794
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: Will scoop him.

795
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 2: So if not, she's not ready, I think that that

796
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: becomes a very interesting thing.

797
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: Nahim.

798
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: Heines the fact that he has the versatility to be

799
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: able to catch the ball out of the backfield and

800
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 2: brings maybe a little bit of a different element than

801
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: a Marion Hampton does.

802
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: I would lean to maybe him being that that third

803
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: back in addition to Haskins.

804
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: We're just that for a pass pro rep. He can

805
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: do it right. He can do it, like even though

806
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: he's a smaller guy.

807
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: I've seen him do it.

808
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you played with him, so you know.

809
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 5: I mean, and like, it's a dude that was out

810
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 5: of the league for two years, so you got fresh

811
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 5: legs and that helps.

812
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 6: That's a great point. He's at the league for two years.

813
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 6: You see he's wearing his knee breaks, but you've seen

814
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 6: last week on Saturday, he's breaking angles in the open

815
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 6: field and he's there like, yeah, he's good there. So

816
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 6: I think that's a lot of things. I think that

817
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 6: was one of the biggest things why teams were hesitant

818
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 6: to bring him back in is because of a knee injury,

819
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 6: especially at running back.

820
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: You know the toll that they take.

821
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 6: But he looks healthy, he looks one hundred percent and

822
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 6: he looks like he can go. So it'll be I've

823
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 6: seen guys make the team on the last preseason game.

824
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

825
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 5: The biggest one number Tony Jefferson last year to Jefferson

826
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 5: last year, Yeah, the Dallas game.

827
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 6: Thomas Harper, that was that was slated before him, Right,

828
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 6: he gets hurt.

829
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: TJFS goes in for the Dallas games.

830
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 6: It has probably one of the best games any charge

831
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 6: in the preseason.

832
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so still a lot of time that'll be

833
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: in the books. Yeah, one of the best.

834
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 5: Yeah that Look, the Nazi thing, we obviously I hope

835
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: he's fine. I hope he's ready to go week one.

836
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 5: I just think the reality is he's still just kind

837
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 5: of walking around. He's still working off for the s.

838
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 5: I mean, we're three weeks out of Brazil, and that

839
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: is hard when you've been remember the injury happened on

840
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 5: July fourth, Like you're talking about, he's been gone for

841
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 5: six weeks, and I know running backs. It's just to

842
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 5: me and I think that the way it lines up,

843
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 5: it makes it interesting because of how Rocket is built

844
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 5: very similar, you know, and he's got more explosiveness than

845
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 5: Naji does. But we know what this team wants to do. Man,

846
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 5: we saw everything. I've I called way too many Stanford

847
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 5: games when Hart was there. I called way too many

848
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 5: forty nine er games when he was up there. This

849
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 5: dude wants to lean on you in the fourth quarter.

850
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 5: He wants to run a four minute offense and Rocket

851
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 5: fits right into that, you know, as Naji does. And

852
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 5: so I think that's when we're talking about that column.

853
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 5: Na she's inactive for the first four I don't think

854
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 5: there's any question that Raheem Sanders is in there. That

855
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 5: it's Haskins, Sanders, Hampton. And then again, I think that

856
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 5: battle comes down to Hines versus Fidell, and it's not the.

857
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: Worst thing in the world.

858
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: If not she's not ready, get him ready and get

859
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: him fresh for the back half of the season with

860
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: a Marion Hampton and then whoever kind of raises their

861
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: hand in the running backs room. But what's funny is

862
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: we were doing our pregame show at our Bolts to watch.

863
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: You had KALs and I had Trey Harris.

864
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: Pass.

865
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: Well, it's not a good day to basket well, Trey Harris.

866
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: With just a but but you know, Kles popped in

867
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 2: and Canton and I just saw Trey Harrison a bounce

868
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: back game. And you know, even Greg Roman said it's

869
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: it didn't go right at the beginning of the game,

870
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: but just wasn't in the cards to pass. And that's

871
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: why I don't want to just completely like rule Taylor

872
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: Heineke out as the backup quarterback either, because sometimes you

873
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: get a two or three series and they just don't

874
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: go your way. So what I'd like to see against

875
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: the Rams money is, is Taylor Heineke.

876
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: For a half.

877
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it'd be important to see him for

878
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 4: a longer extent a period of time.

879
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 5: Well, look, I think you know being selfish is yeah,

880
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 5: I'd like to see him ball out and then teams

881
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 5: make the call because they need a backup. There's not

882
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 5: a lot of good backups, so you can trust to

883
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 5: win a quarter, to win a single game. Heineke's one

884
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 5: of them. You know, I've have full faith that he

885
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 5: can go out and win you a quarter and win

886
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 5: you a game. And if the Chargers decide they want

887
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 5: to go in the Trey Lance direction, then they can

888
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 5: recoup the pick that they sent out for him, you know,

889
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 5: go get a seventh or a six, or swap you

890
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 5: know your seventh or six, something along those lines. So yeah,

891
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 5: I'd love to see him ball out. I do want

892
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 5: to allude to, you know, the KLS thing, and you

893
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 5: know we love him.

894
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: We just talked to him. He's great.

895
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 5: But and he had a huge drop. It was a

896
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 5: bad drop, but nobody said anything. And so I think

897
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 5: it's important to remember people have narratives attached to them.

898
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 5: The narrative attached to Kls is explosive. This is our guy, man,

899
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 5: he's gonna come out. He's the speed element that we wanted,

900
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 5: that we've been looking for.

901
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: That was a big drop.

902
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: It maybe set the tone for Heineke to have a

903
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: rough go in the in that game in those first

904
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 5: two series. Now, Heineke did some damage himself airmail and Conklin.

905
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: A couple of times.

906
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 5: But if that's Quinton Johnston, that makes that drop, it's

907
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 5: all we hear about. So remember wide receivers drop balls.

908
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 5: Keenan led the league. Would hate freaking punch me in

909
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 5: the head. I heard me say it. But Keenan led

910
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 5: the league drops one year like he led the league

911
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 5: and drop it why because he was targeted a one

912
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy times. So like it happens, you know,

913
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 5: And it happened to KLS, and it's gonna happen to

914
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 5: Trey Harris, it's gonna happen to Quinton, It's gonna happen

915
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 5: to lat like it well maybe not Latin, but it's

916
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 5: gonna exactly.

917
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: That's part of it.

918
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: That's part of the deal, though, Jilliel, I mean you've

919
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: been up a closer person with these receivers sometimes. I

920
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: remember that Green Bay game that you know, we all

921
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 2: talk about Quinton's pass it. You know, I think Keenan

922
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: had a drop in that game in the end zone.

923
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 4: And yes, and is as surehanded as they come. I mean,

924
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 4: Keenan is put together.

925
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: It's by the way, it's great to see him out

926
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: there because it does bring another dimension to this offense.

927
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: But I agree with you, buddy, I think it's it's

928
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: time to maybe kill these narratives.

929
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: Or just it's not.

930
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: I don't think it's worth anybody's breath to continue to

931
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: nit pick stuff that happens in the preseason or.

932
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 6: In training camp or since when did like training camp

933
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 6: practice stats become a thing Like if you go off

934
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 6: of training camp practice stats, a lot of people are

935
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 6: not going to.

936
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Make the team, right, some weird people gonna make it,

937
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: and some weird.

938
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 6: People are going to make the team. Like it is

939
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 6: what it is at the end of the day. So

940
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 6: what have you done for me lately? Business and practice

941
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 6: is practice.

942
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: I get it.

943
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 6: What you put out there on tape is what the

944
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 6: coaches see, what they believe. I understand that. But when

945
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 6: you get between those white lines on Sunday on Saturday,

946
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 6: when the lights are on, that's what matters the most.

947
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 6: Like the media is blowing up. This guy went twelve

948
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 6: for fourteen hundred.

949
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: And seventeen, but doors going to Canton to Canton off

950
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: of half of the breaks.

951
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: This is what we do.

952
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: Though.

953
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: Money it's like it's it's maddening you all we have.

954
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 4: It's I know, it's all we have.

955
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: But like the fact that Shador had a good half,

956
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: I'm happy for him and I hope he can continue.

957
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 4: I know he got hurt.

958
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: But like we don't talk about Tanner McKee for the Eagles,

959
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: who like was like twenty two of twenty five for

960
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 2: three touchdowns.

961
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's just it doesn't really have any impact.

962
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously the Browns are different because they're looking

963
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 5: for a starting quarterback. It's going to be Joe Flacco,

964
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: but you know they're the idea that that's an open

965
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 5: competition is what makes it interesting. Like to me, the

966
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 5: things that people you know that the one of the

967
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: great things that I think the Chargers are showing us

968
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 5: is who they're going to be, especially in light of

969
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 5: the Rashawn Slater injury. Now, what are we seeing in

970
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 5: these preseason games, even prior to Rashawn getting hurt is

971
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 5: we're seeing a lot of Disley, Fisk and Matt Locke

972
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 5: out there at the same time. That package that they

973
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: ran last year two hundred and sixty pounds plus for

974
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 5: each of them, And we said, we shared this stat

975
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 5: multiple times, the Chargers ran more plays with eight or

976
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 5: more two hundred and sixty pounds player, the five offensive

977
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: lineman and that three. You know that if I would

978
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 5: call it thirteen, I don't really you know, I think

979
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 5: you would probably put Matt Locke more the role of

980
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 5: a tight end than a full begging call twenty two

981
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: if you want. But with eight two hundred and sixty

982
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 5: pound plus guys, I think that's what the reality is.

983
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 5: That's what this team is. And the one thing that flashes,

984
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 5: maybe more than anything else that we've seen in these

985
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 5: two preseason games is those guys can block. Man Tucker

986
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 5: Fisk can block, Will Disley can block, and Scott Mattlock

987
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 5: has taken a huge step from last year. Man I

988
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 5: think it was it was a Haskins run. I think

989
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 5: that he was tailing matt Lock. And you want to

990
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 5: talk about blowing a hole open, and now you've got

991
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 5: a two hundred and forty pound back right behind three

992
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 5: hundred and five pound matt Lock.

993
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: It was beautiful.

994
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 5: And I think that's sort of what Greg Roman and

995
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 5: Jim Harbar are showing us, is that get ready. It's

996
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 5: you're getting all excited about KLS and Trey Harris and

997
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 5: that's who you guys picked on your pregame show. And

998
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 5: it's like, hey man, it's gonna be Keenan and lad

999
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: and it's gonna be matt Lock, Tucker Fisk and Will

1000
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 5: Disley out there, and that's that's what this is gonna be.

1001
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: It's gonna be bully Ball night. Former player.

1002
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 6: I hated playing tonight like this, like listen, and I

1003
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 6: wasn't alf of being a phys safety, like that's what I

1004
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 6: prided myself on. And I don't care how big you are,

1005
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 6: I don't care how much you lift. I don't care

1006
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 6: what kind of program you do in the offseason. When

1007
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 6: it's week twelve, thirteen, fourteen, ladies and gentlemen, and you

1008
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 6: have to play a team like this Chargers culture when

1009
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 6: they're smashing my football for four quarters, you don't want

1010
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 6: smoke at all.

1011
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, al Marion Hampton is maybe the guy that we're

1012
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: not talking about as much because we're not gonna see

1013
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: him probably, I don't know.

1014
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see him one more game, maybe they.

1015
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 5: See him get a couple couple carries, so maybe so,

1016
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 5: But that's the guy.

1017
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned, you mentioned that that package of

1018
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: Fisk and Disley, and you know, those guys are catching

1019
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: balls in Houston. Now they're gonna actually be blocking and

1020
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: and uh making.

1021
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: Playing with as they get a seven game and they

1022
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 5: get a seven game streak where he caught one he

1023
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 5: caught at least one pass and it was one pass

1024
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 5: it was but you know what that pass he caught

1025
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame game, it's beautiful man, nice feet,

1026
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 5: great soft hands, and you know, and we didn't even

1027
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 5: mention Conklin. I mean, you could end up having fourteen

1028
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: I mean, you could have fourteen personnel seen it.

1029
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: But it could be done.

1030
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 5: You got one wide receiver, it's lad it's Conkling, it's Disley,

1031
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 5: it's Fisk, and it's Matt Locke out there. I mean,

1032
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 5: it's it's it could happen.

1033
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 6: As a defense. Do you run against that? And that's

1034
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 6: that's a base look. That's definitely a base look.

1035
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: But then they can.

1036
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: Spread you out to Yeah, exactly, that's the thing.

1037
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 4: The identity doesn't change.

1038
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: But also the fact that there are more weapons on

1039
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: the outside for Justin to maybe take advantage of some

1040
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: of those looks. And you know, you have one on

1041
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: one look with KLS or Trey Harris or you know,

1042
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: having Keenan and Ladd on the field at the same

1043
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: time to go with that punishing running game back, what

1044
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: does that do to a secondary No, that's a great point, Chris.

1045
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 6: Because when you looked at the playoff game last year

1046
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 6: against the Texans, right teams will know what the Chargers

1047
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 6: want to do.

1048
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 3: They want to run the ball.

1049
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 6: And sometimes you can run for four quarters and you'll

1050
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 6: punch them and we talked about it, body blow, body blow.

1051
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 6: Then you get a headshot, and sometimes the headshot never

1052
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 6: comes right. And I think that's what I don't want

1053
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 6: to say. That's why the reason Justin struggled that day.

1054
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 6: But if you have to turn away from the run game, now,

1055
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 6: Justin has a lot of options. Right, it's not just

1056
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 6: Ladden that went crazy that game, but getting triple team,

1057
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 6: triple team, double team. They're rolling the coverage to him.

1058
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 6: But now it's Keenan, Now it's Kless, Now it's straight Harris.

1059
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 6: Now it's QJ. Like he has options. And I think

1060
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 6: that's what Charge of Faith Will wanted to see him,

1061
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 6: just have options. If the running game doesn't work, then

1062
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 6: we can change up the game plan and we can

1063
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 6: make it happen.

1064
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: In the year, I mean it was. It was a

1065
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 5: tough game. The fact that they couldn't run the ball,

1066
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 5: that they couldn't block. So now I got no play action.

1067
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 5: You gotta run a quick game. No one could separate,

1068
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 5: no one could get open. It was like it's it's

1069
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 5: old news. It was a long time ago.

1070
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 4: Money.

1071
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: We were a shoe string away. I actually saw that,

1072
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: you know the CJ. Stroud play where they fumble and

1073
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: picks it up. Tuley was a shoe string away, a

1074
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: sad loss of thirty or even picking the ball up

1075
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: and scoring, and that game is completely different game. And

1076
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: it was the one play that changed everything. Before we

1077
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 2: get out of here, anything that you want to see

1078
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: Saturday that we didn't talk about that you're looking forward to.

1079
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 5: I think just more. I think it's more of competent,

1080
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 5: you know, competitors, welcome the theme of this team. It's

1081
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 5: more Marlo Wax, Mickens Bridges, you know, instead of Eric Rodgers.

1082
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 5: You know, maybe it is Bridges who flashes? Is that

1083
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Speaker 5: corner you know? Is it Miles Purchase back out there

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Speaker 5: at free safety?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 5: It's it's the depth of this team that I'm looking

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Speaker 5: forward to seeing. I think also, you know, the the

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Speaker 5: one room that needs to be settled ahead of all

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Speaker 5: others is that running back room, Because like I said,

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Speaker 5: I think that's going to be a tough decision between Viadelle,

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Speaker 5: Hines and Sanders and and that's probably what you're going

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Speaker 5: to see.

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Speaker 3: You're going to see a lot of So what about

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00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: what about me?

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Speaker 1: Enough about me? Let's talk about me?

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 6: I just it's preseason, right and I just want to

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Speaker 6: see these guys. I want them to be vanilla playbook

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Speaker 6: on offense, Vanilla playbook on defense, Vanilla playbook on special teams,

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Speaker 6: and just let them be athletes, let them show that

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Speaker 6: God given ability and let the chips fall where they make.

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Speaker 6: Like you said, money, competition, competition, competition and see what

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Speaker 6: happens from there.

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Speaker 2: I want to see if there's you know, guys like

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Speaker 2: Kyle could Arden, Junior Colson get on the field. Yeah

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Speaker 2: this week too, because I think it's it's gonna be.

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Speaker 5: I think, Chris, if you're just a and being you know,

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Speaker 5: junior versus Marlowe, you know, you're talking about a pretty

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Speaker 5: sizable difference in the way that looked at that position

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Speaker 5: and just what their eyes were seeing and what they

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Speaker 5: were executing. So I think Junior, you know, I feel

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Speaker 5: like what coach Minter said is right on the money,

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Speaker 5: and that's like he's just got to stop thinking, man,

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Speaker 5: he's got to get back to being junior and stop

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Speaker 5: feeling like he's so far behind and he's got to

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Speaker 5: he's processing too much and just lean on your natural gifts.

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Speaker 5: And what you said, Julie is what Greg Roman said

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Speaker 5: in his press or. He's like, I'm not out there

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Speaker 5: running rub routes. I'm not drawing up place for these guys.

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Speaker 5: I want to see you win. He's like, we're playing vanilla.

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Speaker 5: Show me that you can win, show me that you

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Speaker 5: can separate, Show me that you know what routes to run.

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Speaker 5: Show me that you understand, leverage, that's all we're doing

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Speaker 5: out there. That's that's what this is for. It's not

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Speaker 5: to draw up a cool play to get you open,

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Speaker 5: you know, because.

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Speaker 1: We schemed it up.

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Speaker 5: That does nothing for us. He's like, we're just putting

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Speaker 5: guys out there and seeing who can win. And I

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Speaker 5: think we've seen Eric Rodgers win, Myles Purchase win, you

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Speaker 5: go Read win, Caleb Murphy win, Jamari Like that's what's fun.

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Speaker 5: Let's just go watch guys win their individual battles.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, Uh, welcome back, bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good to have you.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you.

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Speaker 4: Uh for for money and Jealil and Chris has been

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Speaker 4: Chargers Weekly. We'll see you next week.