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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chris Hary with you on our one hundredth

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Speaker 1: episode of Chargers Weekly. We have a star studded lineup

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Speaker 1: from the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Greg Rosenthal of

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, Jim Trotter NFL Network, one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest safeties of all times, Steve Atwater, the talented mister Rhodo,

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Speaker 1: ESPN's Matthew Berry, and we'll kick things off with the

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Speaker 1: best information man in football, ESPN's Adam Schefter. Well, I

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Speaker 1: couldn't think of a better guest to kick off our

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Speaker 1: one hundredth episode of Chargers Weekly. Episodes? Was I in

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Speaker 1: the first one? You were on one of the first ones.

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Speaker 1: You know, you kicked off the twenty seventeen season because

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Speaker 1: we played the Broncos and we previewed Broncos Chargers Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football. Rex was in the booth, but you joined me. Now,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Let's see Chris. First question I

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Speaker 1: have for he's where's Dylan? This is like her element.

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Speaker 1: Star and she was talking to Luca and Donovan, Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: Marvin bag all these stars. You gotta be so proud.

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Speaker 1: That's probably the best part of this whole job. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing that I enjoy doing more than getting to travel

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Speaker 1: with her, watching her interview and and honestly, it's not

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Speaker 1: of her doing that. And once she's expressed that interest,

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Speaker 1: know if there's anything else. And then ESPN's cover. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know. So, so it's worked out pretty well. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for asking and thank you for paying attention. That's great. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is like the NFL spring break, right, you have

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Speaker 1: the future of the NFL. Here. We're a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks for free agency, coaches, executives, agents, for our listeners.

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Speaker 1: What is this experience like for you personally? Well, first

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Speaker 1: were seven reporters and you're one of seven, one of seven,

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Speaker 1: about Let's talk some Chargers. They ended the season in

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Speaker 1: twelve and four one a playoff game. Your overall impressions

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Speaker 1: of what coach Lynn has done in two seasons, Well,

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Speaker 1: They're one of the better teams in the AFC. And

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Speaker 1: you know, so you see, you had Gordon, you had

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Speaker 1: Eckler out of obviously out of the backfield. You know,

427
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Speaker 1: Keenan's gonna get his right. But then you know, you'd

428
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Speaker 1: see it'd be Tyrone Williams, it'd be Mike Williams. And

429
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Speaker 1: you know, there were a couple of games, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: there was I think it was a three touchdown game

431
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Speaker 1: and one of them he ran for a touchdown. Like wait,

432
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Speaker 1: where did that come from? The Chiefs game? Yeah? Right, yeah,

433
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: it was like the Mike Williams game, and like, but

434
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Speaker 1: he'd been inconsistent, so you know, that just felt like

435
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 1: the volume wasn't there for him. But certainly the red

436
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: zone targets were which is interesting. And so what's gonna

437
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: be really interesting I think for people that are looking

438
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Speaker 1: at the Chargers from a fantasy perspective is how does

439
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Speaker 1: that change with Hunter Henry's return. I was just gonna ask,

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Speaker 1: so because Henry was so good in the red zone

441
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Speaker 1: two years ago, and the expectation like he was a

442
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: high draft pick, you know, for people that drafted early

443
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: before his injury, people were, you know he would have

444
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Speaker 1: I think before his injury, I think I had him

445
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Speaker 1: as tight end four coming into the year. And so

446
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: because we know Philip loves looking for tight ends in

447
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: the red zone, in the end zone, obviously you know,

448
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Speaker 1: Gates owns the NFL record, and so when Hunter suffered

449
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Speaker 1: his injury, I think looking around, all right, who's a

450
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Speaker 1: big target in the red zone, who's somebody that could

451
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Speaker 1: replace that? And so right, big Mike Williams obviously comes out,

452
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Speaker 1: and you know the college resume I speaks fromself. I

453
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Speaker 1: think Williams. You know, because the Chargers are a West

454
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Speaker 1: Coast team and so much of our media's East Coast

455
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Speaker 1: basin people, I don't know, the Chargers never get enough

456
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Speaker 1: respect fantasy wise, I think that they should. Really, I

457
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Speaker 1: really don't believe that Melvin Gordon does. Melvin Gordon always

458
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Speaker 1: goes in the first round. But beyond that, like I did,

459
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Speaker 1: I do a column every year called hundred Facts, and

460
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Speaker 1: I just sort of and I it's basically a sleeper

461
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Speaker 1: bust column disguised, and I sort of use facts to

462
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Speaker 1: kind of build a case for somebody. Sure, and if

463
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Speaker 1: you go back and look at my one from last year,

464
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Speaker 1: I used five or six facts on Philip Rivers, and

465
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Speaker 1: I just pointed the fact that like that Philip Rivers

466
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Speaker 1: had been so consistent that he was like twenty five

467
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Speaker 1: yards twenty five touchdowns in four thousand yards in the bank,

468
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: never misses a game, He's always healthy. And also the

469
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Speaker 1: other thing about him is that I think four of

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Speaker 1: the last five seasons, not counting this past season, so

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Speaker 1: this is going into last year, and that's happened again

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Speaker 1: this year, so I guess there'll be five of the

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Speaker 1: past six Philip Rivers has finished at least five spots ahead.

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Speaker 1: Has averaged five spots ahead of where he was drafted,

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Speaker 1: meaning like if he finishes QB, he'd be drafted his

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Speaker 1: QB fifteen and finishes QB ten, he'd be drafted. His

477
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Speaker 1: QB thirteen finishes KULB eight. He always outperforms his ADP,

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Speaker 1: which is average draft position. Just Rivers never gets the

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Speaker 1: respect that I think he deserves from fantasy players. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he hasn't missed a start, as you mentioned,

481
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Speaker 1: since oh six. Why do you think that is? Is

482
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Speaker 1: he just there's so many quarterbacks now that you can

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Speaker 1: wait on a quarterback and then Philip just kind of

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Speaker 1: gets pushed back a little bit. Yeah. I think it's

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Speaker 1: because although I think maybe this year, I think it's

486
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Speaker 1: first off quarterback is devalued. Yea. He he's not a

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Speaker 1: big name quarterback in this sense the way a Brady

488
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Speaker 1: or a Rodgers or Roethlisberger is where, you know, and

489
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Speaker 1: I think some of this is on ESPN, like we

490
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: don't show enough highlights, you know, that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I remember after one Sunday night game, after one sun

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Speaker 1: and night game that the Chargers came back and win,

493
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Speaker 1: Rivers was talking with Michelle Tafoya and he was all

494
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Speaker 1: fired up because he was right, and he was all

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Speaker 1: fired up because he's like, this is like the first

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Speaker 1: one I've done of these in like four years or

497
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Speaker 1: whatever it was or three seasons, and so it's like

498
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Speaker 1: because of the charges have struggled and because it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a you know, they were in San Diego and

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Speaker 1: La West Coast team. For whatever reason, Philip just doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the He's obviously a big star, he's a future

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame all that, but I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 1: I just don't feel like he gets the the media

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Speaker 1: respect he should. He's not mentioned in the same breath

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Speaker 1: as those guys when he should be, when the numbers

506
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Speaker 1: suggests he should be. So based on the year that

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Speaker 1: he had last year, and you take into consideration, he

508
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Speaker 1: throws the ball in Melvin Gordon a lot, yea, he

509
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Speaker 1: throws the ball at Austin Echolo a lot. Hundry's coming back,

510
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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen yep PPR machine. Yeah, Mike Williams, where do

511
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Speaker 1: you look at Philip Rivers this year in comparison to

512
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Speaker 1: year's past? Listen, I'm always a Philip Rivers apologist. I

513
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Speaker 1: have him on my Dynasty League team. I've had him

514
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Speaker 1: for years, so I love him as a quarterback. What's

515
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Speaker 1: nice about Rivers is there's a floor there. I think

516
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Speaker 1: one of the problems is that he hasn't had He

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Speaker 1: hasn't had a crazy Mahomes like season, you know, or

518
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Speaker 1: a fifty touchdown season. He's it's always just so solid,

519
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Speaker 1: right and for leagues of count interceptions. You know, that's

520
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: that's been h that's been an issue at somewhat. I

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Speaker 1: think I have him somewhere like eight or ten in

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Speaker 1: my quarterback ranking. So has a QB one. You know,

523
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Speaker 1: he doesn't run um and by run, I mean like

524
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Speaker 1: he's not he's not mobile the way like Aaron Rodgers

525
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Speaker 1: will get your three or four rushing touchdowns over the

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Speaker 1: course of a year, you know, um uh you know.

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Speaker 1: So you know, obviously Mahomes has has speed there. You know,

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Speaker 1: you think about Lamar Jackson obviously, and so you know,

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Speaker 1: Cousins is somebody that that's a part of his game

530
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Speaker 1: usually and so um uh Wentz, Deshaun Way and when

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Speaker 1: you think about some of the other kind of high

532
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Speaker 1: end fantasy quarterbacks. So he's he's a little bit stiffer

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Speaker 1: from that from disappure statistic statistic standpoint. And then also

534
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Speaker 1: you know, one of the reasons Melvin so good is

535
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Speaker 1: because he converts touchdowns. So like the problem. The problem

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Speaker 1: for Philip Rivers. Fantasy stock has been a great thing

537
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Speaker 1: for Philip Rivers, the NFL quarterback, which is that the

538
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: Chargers defense is usually pretty good, so he doesn't get

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Speaker 1: into shootouts. They're up, they're running the ball in the

540
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: second half they go, they tend to you know, run

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Speaker 1: the ball with Gordon when they get in close, and

542
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it's hard to project Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: for over forty touchdowns, you know what I mean, like

544
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Speaker 1: so um so. I think that's why there's a little

545
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Speaker 1: bit of a ceiling there with him, but the floor

546
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: is very high, and I think Rivers is, you know, awesome.

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Speaker 1: You know, you think about Gordon two and coming out

548
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: of Wisconsin, he didn't catch the ball a ton in college,

549
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Speaker 1: and each and every year we're starting to see him

550
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Speaker 1: catch the ball even more and more. You couple that

551
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Speaker 1: with Eckler, and I think one of the fantasy questions.

552
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Speaker 1: First of all, it's February, it's ever too early to

553
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: talk fantasy. But what are the questions I always got

554
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: with with Eckler and Gordon is like did you start both?

555
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: Can you start both? And at the beginning of the

556
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: year they were on the last year. You could last

557
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: year ingram camera clip like the first four or five. Yeah, yeah,

558
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: they were, And I mean, Eckler's a talented player, and

559
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: it was It's a credit to him because it's like

560
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: when you've got somebody like Melvin Gordon, you just you know,

561
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: only you need to do is give him a breather

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00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I think, you know, Coach Lynn

563
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: said this over the course of this season, like we've

564
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: got to find ways to get Eckler on the field,

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Speaker 1: you know. And when Gordon went down with his injury

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Speaker 1: and you know Eckler was dealing with that stinger, um,

567
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: Justin Jackson stepped up and it was so nice. Yeah,

568
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: it was credit to the coaching staff and the game plan.

569
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Speaker 1: But you could see you missed, you know, the Chargers

570
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: offense missed Eckler. He brings he brings something to that

571
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: offense that I don't think they have elsewhere. And so

572
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: he's a special little player. When you come here, what

573
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: are you trying to try and get information about next

574
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: year with teams? Are you looking at some prospects. I'm

575
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: not really looking at the prospects because again, until you

576
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: know a players like you know, you can say, this

577
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: player is a great but you know what I mean, Like, um,

578
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a good example. Well, the

579
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: example I always used as Derrick Henry. Like I loved

580
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry coming out of college Alabama. I'm like, I

581
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: can't wait to draft this guy. Then he gets drafted

582
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: by Tennessee and he's behind de Marco Murray and you're like, well,

583
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: there goes that, Like he's not getting on the field,

584
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: of which you really didn't, you know, in his first year.

585
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: So until you and there have been lesser players that

586
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: have suddenly sprung to fantasy relevance because they've gotten into

587
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: the right situation or a scheme that's you know, a

588
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: good fit for that. Well, Philip lindsay, a guy who

589
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: didn't even get drafted. It didn't even get drafted exactly,

590
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: and you know, had a monster year, but there was

591
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: opportunity there and you know, and it was a good

592
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: fit and they schemed for him perfectly. So I don't

593
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: really pay attention to the prospects in a big sense

594
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: until I know where they land. For what I do

595
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: for here, it's much it's more about networking and learning,

596
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, I go to all the coaches press conference

597
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: and you get to ask specific questions and talk to

598
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 1: various players, coaches and uh. And then you know at

599
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: night you meet people and just yeah, gleaning information, gleaning nuggets,

600
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: developing sources, you know, kissing, kissing baby, shaking hands. So

601
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: what it is we're here at day one, um, final

602
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: thing for your free agency? Um, the guys like Levion

603
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: Bell some of these other guys. How does free agency

604
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: dictate how you rank of like like a Levion Bell

605
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: for instance, based on where he goes? Is he really

606
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: going to change? Sure? Oh sure? I mean, like again,

607
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: it's all about you know, it's about scheme and opportunity.

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00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Right now, in theory, Levyon Bell is probably gonna go

609
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Speaker 1: to a team. Uh, Like, you're not gonna sign Levan

610
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Speaker 1: Bell to the kind of money that you're gonna right, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I have him ranked as a you know,

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Speaker 1: top fifteen player, but he's a I rank him differently

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Speaker 1: if he's on the Jets versus the Colts. You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I don't think he's going to the Colts.

615
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Speaker 1: But my point is is, like if the Colts sign

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Speaker 1: of behind that offensive line with Andrew Luck as his quarterback,

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Speaker 1: that's a different scenario than if he goes to New

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Speaker 1: Orc and he's behind a so so offensive line with

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Speaker 1: still a young quarterback and you know, so it's um so. Again,

620
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Speaker 1: it just sort of depends on every but every player

621
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: is different, every situation is different, every team is different,

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Speaker 1: Opportunity is different. I will say, however, is that free

623
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Speaker 1: agency is like this big puzzle because every signing creates

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Speaker 1: a ripple effect on that team and the team that

625
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Speaker 1: the player left. And so like we know Alabian Bell's

626
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,239
Speaker 1: not going to be with the Steelers, but you know,

627
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: assuming the Steelers trade Antonio Brown, that's going to affect

628
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Speaker 1: It affixs juju, It affects every James Washington you mean

629
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Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, it affects a lot of people. We're

630
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Speaker 1: even talking about like offensive tackles and guards as offensive line.

631
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Speaker 1: Or you lose, you lose a guy and that running

632
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Speaker 1: back doesn't have the year that you expect him to have.

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Speaker 1: Correct yere Matthew Berry kid, thank you know for your time.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate it. My pleasure. Go Chargers. Thresholf of Hawaiian

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636
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: are still wishing I was on vacation. Yeah, the weather's

637
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: not comparable here in India. Huh No, no, it um.

638
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: I always feel bad. You never want to complain about

639
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: being in Hawaii. You know the weather wasn't we go

640
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: every year and this was the first year where we

641
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: got a little bit of precipitation, you know, outside of

642
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: the ordinary. Yeah, but again Hawaii, So you can't complain. No,

643
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: no one's gonna feel bad for you. No, Well, what's

644
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: this week like for you? Because this is it's an

645
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: interesting time when the NFL calendar, Right, you got the

646
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: super Bowl just ended, we got free agency in a

647
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. You got the future of the league here,

648
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: you got coaches, agents, executives for you personally, how do

649
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: you approach the week? What's interesting is I hadn't been

650
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: here in roughly seven years. I think, really I had

651
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: stopped coming, just from the standpoint of for the things

652
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: I do now, or storytelling and that sort of thing.

653
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: The combine back in the day used to be a

654
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: little more intimate and so you could get some time

655
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: one on one with guys. Now there are so many

656
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: people I think someone told me today they are fourteen

657
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: hundred media members. Chris head Adam shifts around. He said

658
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago he was one of seven reporters exactly. Yeah,

659
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, I'm not a hangout at

660
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: the bar type guy, late at nine guys. So really

661
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: this isn't conducive for me personally. I prefer to go

662
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: to if I'm say I want to visit with someone

663
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: from the Chargers, go to their place and visit with him,

664
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: or say it's Tennessee, go and visit with him there. Yeah,

665
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a little more personal and you developed stronger,

666
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: a stronger rapport with whoever it is you're you're talking to,

667
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: as opposed to having twenty other writers around or whatever.

668
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: So for me, there were just a couple of stories

669
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm working on where I just felt it was good

670
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: paying for the buck to come and get some of

671
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: these things here. Now knock these interviews out of the way,

672
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: and then I could get back to trying to do

673
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: the more um quote unquote intimate or personal long form pieces. Well,

674
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: speaking of that in your storytelling, he's on Keenan Allen's

675
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: year that was phenomenal and he had another Pro Bowl season.

676
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Keenan, which you got from that conversation

677
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: with him, what I got from it. You know, I'd

678
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: seem Keenan from Afar, but never really spent time with him.

679
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: So I was just curious knowing his talents. I just

680
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: wanted to know what the guy was like and what

681
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: his drive was like. So when I went down to

682
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: North Carolina, that's kind of what I learned. You're able

683
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: to go back and see the roots, you know, you

684
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: know where where that certain attitude and makeup and drive

685
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: comes from. And and I value that. So I appreciate

686
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: him allowing me to do that. And what I saw

687
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: was a guy who very early on learned from his

688
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: stepdad and his older brothers that there is a certain

689
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: way you have to play this game if you want

690
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: to be successful. And as his dad's stepdad likes to

691
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: say to him, it's a grown man's game. So even

692
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: at seven years old, you know, you may get knocked around,

693
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: but you always get up and you keep going. And

694
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: so I was it was it allowed me to better

695
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: understand that sort of alpha dog mentality he has when

696
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: he's on the field and just to strive to be

697
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: the best. So um again, I love going back and

698
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: being with these guys in those settings and and getting

699
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: to learn a bit, you know, a bit about them

700
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: as people too as well as just players. People forget

701
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: the Keenan so young still. Yeah, and here's the here's

702
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: the funny thing when he came out. Now, the way

703
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: the story is told to me, his mom literally had

704
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: to sign his first contract because he wasn't old enough.

705
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: Was he like twenty He wasn't. Yeah, he wasn't twenty

706
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: one yet. And that's wild. Yeah, and did with his

707
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: seventh season now, Yeah, and his mom had something along

708
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: those lines. She had to sign something for him to

709
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: be able to play in the NFL. So that's pretty wild.

710
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: But his his perseverance too through some some really tough

711
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: injuries too. I mean to rebound. I just I can't

712
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: get that first half of the Chiefs game out of

713
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: my head Week one, where he he was just eating

714
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: up the Chiefs. I think Marcus, Marcus in particular, how

715
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: to meltdown because of it. Yeah, yeah, but he does

716
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: that to you. He's the best route runner in the league. Yeah,

717
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: and he'll he'll you know, he likes to talk to you,

718
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: So that's part of it. And you have a competitive

719
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: guy like Marcus Peters, and so when you're getting your

720
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: lunch handed to you and the guy's talking to you, um, you,

721
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: it's very easy to lose your composure, which Marcus did,

722
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: and that's what was so disappointing to see him go down,

723
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: um you know in that game, the way he did

724
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: for third quarter or something. No, it was first half,

725
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: first half, the first half hill. Yeah, it was still

726
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: into the first half. So I mean he was on

727
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: pace to have a monster game and which likely would

728
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: have led to a monster year. But you know, to

729
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: see him come back and then I thought it was

730
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: pretty telling for him then as he sets his goals

731
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: going forward. It was never then about catches or yards

732
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: or touchdowns. It was always about sixteen. Just play sixteen games,

733
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, And he always believed that if he played sixteen,

734
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: everything would take care of itself. And it has. And

735
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: he was a big part of the charge of success

736
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: this year. I mean, you go twelve and four, you

737
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: win a playoff game in Anthony Lynne's second year, he's

738
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: really building something in LA. Just your overall thoughts on

739
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: what the Charges did in eighteen. I thought it was

740
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: a big step for them to finally try and connect

741
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: with that community. Look, La loves a winner. So as

742
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: I've always said, whether it's the Charges of the Rams,

743
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: it's going to take time to develop, to establish roots

744
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: in that community, and one of the ways to accelerate

745
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: that growth is by winning. So it was critical for

746
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: them to do that. It was it was disappointing to

747
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: me personally because knowing some of these guys as long

748
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: as I have, whether it's Philip or Antonio, you'd like

749
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: to see them have success and get a shot and

750
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: play for a ring. So to see them lose that

751
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: was disappointing. But that was a shock to everybody the

752
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: way that the way the way the season ended. Yet, yeah,

753
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: no question about it. I thought, Look, if we're being

754
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: honest here, I thought the Patriots did a much better

755
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: job in terms of game planning for the Chargers than

756
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: vice versa. And I mean, we could we could dissect

757
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: that whole game, which I don't think you could really,

758
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: But you know the thing about the Patriots that that

759
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: whole playoff run. I mean, they shut out the Chiefs

760
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: at halftime in Arrowhead, they held the ramps of three points,

761
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: they were locked in, and they're they're almost kind of

762
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: the anomaly of the league. You know, it's it's just

763
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: it's kind of a different it's a different deal. No,

764
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: what what Bill does is he uses the early part

765
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: of the season to figure it out. What does he have,

766
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: What are the strengths and weaknesses, what can they do?

767
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: Like Gronkowski after the Super Bowl was saying they got

768
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: back to they had to establish an identity. Every year

769
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: is different, every team is different. And what they realized

770
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: halfway through that year was our identity is not throwing

771
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: the ball. Our identity is grinding on people. So that means,

772
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of Sony Michelle, James White to

773
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: set up our play action game. And that's who they

774
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: were at the end of the year. And so when

775
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: they got into games against the Chiefs or they got

776
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: into games against the Rams, they were able to play

777
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: more ball control in terms of they understood the importance

778
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: of time of possession. And the good thing for them

779
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: is fortunately that against the Chiefs they did shut them

780
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: out in the first half because I'm not sure they

781
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: or anyone else could have stopped Patrick Mahomes if that

782
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: game had gone on any longer. But no, they're phenomen

783
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: That's why they've won six championships, you know, under the

784
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: Brady Belichick era. But I still, you know, would love

785
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: to see would have loved to have seen Philip and

786
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: Antonio get that, because one thing Philip had told me

787
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs was he felt that after the

788
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game that they were starting to turn the corner

789
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of connecting with the fans

790
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: in LA because that was so big to come back

791
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: from I think what was an eighteen down in the

792
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: second half, something like that, down I can't remember, you

793
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: were there, yeah, there, But to come back from that,

794
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: and then to follow it up two weeks later, correct

795
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: with what they did in Kansas City down fourteen correct.

796
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: So to do those two things, I remember him telling

797
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: me the story that, you know, you have those times

798
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: in San Diego where you'd come back from a big

799
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: game and there'd be tons of fans waiting on you.

800
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: And then early on they'd come back from a big

801
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: win their first year in LA or whatever, and there'd

802
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: be two or three people, and he said, after one

803
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: of those games, I can't remember it was Kansas City

804
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: or if it was, was Pittsburgh, but he said, all

805
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we had fans waiting for oh yeah, yeah,

806
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: and he's like that was nice. You know, you started

807
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: to feel like you're making that connection. So if they

808
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: could have won that next game against New England, that

809
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: playoff game, and gotten to a super Bowl, it would

810
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: have been really fun to see what that would have been. Like.

811
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: The good thing I think for Philip just this overall roster.

812
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: There's a lot of young guys. We've talked about the

813
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: way that to LESC and company have drafted a lot

814
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: of guys still on the roster from the last few years. Sure,

815
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: undrafted guys like Badgeley and Eckler contributing m Philip's gonna

816
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: have another crack or two at this over the next

817
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: couple of years. Yeah, he may. But I guess I've

818
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: been around this game long enough to never sort of

819
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: assume or to take for granted. And I heard you're not.

820
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: I know you're not. Nothing carries over twelve or four

821
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: does not carry over to twe I mean correct, So

822
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: you'd be foolish to think that correct. So I hope

823
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: you're right, because I know, as writers were not supposed

824
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: to root four teams or people are all that. But

825
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, I've been around this game long enough and

826
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: that I root for good people. So you know, Phillips

827
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: obviously what I call good people, So I'd like to

828
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: see him have an opportunity. Does anything surprise you in

829
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: this league anymore? With player movement and everything that we've

830
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: seen for the last couple of years. Um, yes and no.

831
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm I can be surprised, but not stunned, if that

832
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah. So there's always there's that initial five

833
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: second of wow, I can't believe this. Then it's like, whoa,

834
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: what do you mean you can't believe it? You know,

835
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: think back to last year when this happened or that happened.

836
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: So one of the things that I guess surprises me

837
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: is how teams will continue to make the same mistakes

838
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: in terms of clubs that believe free agency as a

839
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: panacea and they open their wallets and paying a credible

840
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: amounts of money thinking that one player or two players

841
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: are going to get them over the hump. And I

842
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: think the stat I saw is that last year, of

843
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: the top five guys who received the largest contracts, those

844
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: teams did not make the playoffs. Those five teams, and

845
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: yet we're going to see it again this year. You

846
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: watch to get some of these quarterback salaries. You know, again,

847
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: we're going to break the bank for someone the quarterback position.

848
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: I understand a little more, just the desperation. I still

849
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: don't can't say that I would do it, but you

850
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: have to try and sell hope to your fan base,

851
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: So you need to do something. You can get a

852
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: guy that can at least maybe get you in a

853
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: position to get to the playoffs, but it doesn't always

854
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: work out. That's what the Broncos thought they have with

855
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: Case Keenan. Yeah, and now look where they are, so

856
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: in all likelihood are going to look to move Case

857
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: or potentially even cut them. It's a strange league, you know,

858
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: but that's what makes it so appetizing to a fan

859
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: base that you you never know you know, and different

860
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: things are happening, and you wait to see what's going

861
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 1: to happen next, and when you have someone was telling

862
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: me yesterday that there had been talk or a discussion

863
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: about should they move some elements of the combine to

864
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: prime time? And I'm like, on the one hand, I'm like,

865
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: come on, And then on the other hand, I'm like,

866
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: the appetite isn't absatiable for this that I could see

867
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: that happening. We're taping this right behind a fan bench press,

868
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, this is the bench press.

869
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: The real bench press is right to our right here. Ye,

870
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: So this you're ready to go? Throw up to twenty five? Yeah,

871
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't know fifteen twenty times. I just came off

872
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: vacation myself, so it may be a little bit tough

873
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: for me. But Jim, you're the best man, always gracious

874
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: with your time. What do you got going on this offseason?

875
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: Just working on a couple of pieces here and then,

876
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: same old thing, trying to pick out some interesting stories

877
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: that hopefully will resonate with fans, and just trying to

878
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: do some good storytelling. That's all. I can't wait. You

879
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: do a phenomenal job. I appreciate you man. All Right,

880
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: as we roll on here on Chargers Weekly, episode number

881
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: one hundred, have to bring on a recurring guest, Greg

882
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: Rosenthal NFL dot Com. Greg, what's up, buddy. I'm like

883
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: Norm McDonald on Dave Letterman. That's actually got to really

884
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 1: date me because no one knows these these references people,

885
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: No Norm, but I would I would love wow. But

886
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: Letterman hasn't even been on the air for a while.

887
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: I would love to be the Norm McDonald though, because

888
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: he's like if you see if you see him on

889
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: a show, you're you're happy. We had you on right before.

890
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: I was actually during training camp and you made the

891
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: prediction of Charger Pets AFC Championship game. You came kind

892
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: of close, very close. I thought you were just gonna

893
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: full out give me credit for that. I mean, well,

894
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: I should give you credit. You had. Who knows, if

895
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: the seatings had ended up a little different, maybe that

896
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: would have been the AFC Championship. Give me. I would

897
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: have never guessed, you know, the morning of that game,

898
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: how that game would have gone, both or anyone, you know,

899
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: no one thought that. But it doesn't surprise me that

900
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: those were two of the final eight. I just thought

901
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: they were two of the best, you know, six seven

902
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: teams going into the season. I think it kind of

903
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: played out the way. Yeah. I talk to Isaac Rochelle

904
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: on Monday far Backstage Chargers podcast. He says he's staying salty.

905
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: I think the entire locker room is pretty salty after

906
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: that game. Because after the Patriots scored in the first touchdown,

907
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: Charges came right back. It was like a forty six

908
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: yard touchdown. Keena. I just thought there would be a

909
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: lot of points and then it was kind of a

910
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: bus Saul Well you saw the next week again in

911
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and then he saw in the Super Bowl

912
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: the defensive game planned and improvement and that continuity from

913
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: that Patriots defense. It was no fluke. It wasn't just

914
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: like one game plan where they out coached the Chargers,

915
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: and they did, but they did it against the Chiefs.

916
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: And I know the Chiefs eventually scored in that game,

917
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: but to hold that, yeah, to hold them to seven

918
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarters outrageous and then in the best,

919
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, one of the best Super Bowl defensive performances

920
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: of all time. So they came up with something and

921
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: it's a good reminder to Chargers fans, to everyone. That's

922
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: like the season kind of starts a new with the playoffs,

923
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: and if you can figure out or become a different

924
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: or better team, then it's like that's almost all that matters.

925
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: You know, people gets lost into two greg Is, they

926
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: were I think they're nine and oh getting on a

927
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: plane going into that game against the Patriots. The travel

928
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: and what they did on the road, the impressive wins

929
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: in December Kansas City Pittsburgh. Obviously, you know the Patriots game.

930
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: It is what it is. But these guys won some

931
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: big games in primetime in December, and I know twelve

932
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: and four dry huge games. I mean of some of

933
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: like we're looking at NFL Top ten games on the network.

934
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'm watching it last week the Kansas City

935
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: Chargers game. Well, to win in Pittsburgh and to win

936
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, and then to win in Baltimore in

937
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think if you are just like making

938
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: a power ranking of like who had the most impressive seasons,

939
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: who had like the best wins, you know, the Chargers

940
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: to me are probably the fifth or sixth best team

941
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: in terms of having the best season in the NFL.

942
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: You have to put the Rams and the Saints I

943
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: think the final four, yet you put them as the

944
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: top four, and then it's and then it's probably the

945
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: Chargers after that in terms of what they put together

946
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: in terms of impressive wins. Yeah, they closed both of

947
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: Anthony Elin's first two seasons. They've closed the season very strong.

948
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: I think thirteen and four in November and December. So

949
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit everything. It's a little

950
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: bit of Philip Rivers, a little bit of Coach Lynn

951
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: in this culture that they're building, and really what Tom

952
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: Telesco has done with the roster, the a lot of

953
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: young pieces, it's impressive. But they also have to be

954
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: really concerned about how the offense finished. So that that

955
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: was the thing that stuck out to me was it

956
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: was one of the best offenses in the league for

957
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: fifteen weeks. Fourteen weeks it wasn't great the last three

958
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: or four weeks. Now they had much tougher matchups, but

959
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: the line especially and I and I did hammer that

960
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: going into the Baltimore game. I picked them to beat Baltimore.

961
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: But in that game and the Patriots, I was just saying, Hey,

962
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: that offensive line that we've said so improvement, so improved,

963
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: they're not really protecting and Philip that well, and especially

964
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: on the right side. It was just trouble and that

965
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: played out in that game. Yeah, and it wasn't their

966
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: only problem, but that it was. It was an issue

967
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: that they that I'm sure the Chargers are thinking about

968
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: going into the office. Yeah, I think you have to

969
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: address the offensive line in some form or fashion. And

970
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: one of the ways you do that, I think Forest

971
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: line this is gonna be his first healthy off season

972
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: because he got hurt and training campus rookie season. He

973
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: didn't play much at all in twenty eighteen. So if

974
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: they can get something from Forrest a couple of that

975
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 1: with you know, we were just talking off line about

976
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: the draft. How you know, we don't know much yet,

977
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: but it seems to be a good offensive line draft

978
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: in terms of depth. So maybe you get a right tackle,

979
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: maybe you get some positional versatility there, someone who can

980
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: kick into guard. I've talked about this with other people

981
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: kind of around the league. It's a weird issue when

982
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: almost every team has offensive line problems. Like there's so

983
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: many teams I wrote this articles like one thing they

984
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: can do to you know, get to the Super Bowl

985
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: next year. You could make twenty of them the offensive

986
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: line issues, and there's no one in free agency. That's

987
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: what I'm focused on right now. There's a couple guys

988
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: here or there, but it's so hard to find value

989
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: and free agency you're much more likely to find value

990
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: in getting the right offensive line coach and system that

991
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: you are being able to Like Roger Saffold, who also

992
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: is in Los Angeles with the Rams, thirty one years old,

993
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: had a solid career, he might become the highest paid

994
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: guard in the NFL because he's a free agent and

995
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: he's just the best guy available. He's thirty one years

996
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: old and he's not a pro bowler, and he's got

997
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: to be the highest paid guard in the league. Let's

998
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: get into your list. Top lee of one. I was

999
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: looking at it a couple days ago. I have to, like,

1000
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: I have to sift through it and look at it

1001
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: with context because a lot of these guys are gonna

1002
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: be franchise at the top, right, it'll change it before

1003
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: March ninth, I think is the day. Yeah, the guys

1004
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: that you're confident will not be franchise. Who's at the

1005
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: top of that list? So, like, who kind of leads

1006
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: the packer? Leveyon Bell Trey Flowers. I still think there's

1007
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: a chance Tree Flowers gets tagged, but most people don't

1008
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: so leveyon Bell Trey Flowers, Earl Thomas, I think there's

1009
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: a chance Landed Collins is out there. Uh, Sheldon Richardson

1010
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: guys like that. Defensive line is something that's another one.

1011
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is the one that makes the most sense. People

1012
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: are trying to pushed back on that. I think the

1013
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: Giants are the wild card that I'm really looking at.

1014
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: When the Eagles are trying to trade Nick Foles, I

1015
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: think it's because they don't want them to go to

1016
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: the Giants or the Redskins, which I think both would

1017
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: would like Nick Foles. Yeah, defensive line for the Chargers,

1018
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: they'll be probably looking at that position both in free

1019
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: agency and the draft. A lot of understrict to free

1020
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: agents across the line. Linebackers another position where they could

1021
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: probably address it in both free agency and the draft.

1022
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: C J. Mosley, Is that a guy that you think

1023
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: is going to be free No, Because I think the

1024
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: Ravens all he seems to be their priority to get

1025
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: a long term deal done. I don't think they want

1026
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: to use the tag for him, but I think they'll

1027
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: figure out a way to keep him. But there are

1028
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: some pretty top shelf linebackers available. kJ Wright from the Seahawks,

1029
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: who's really good and would absolutely fit. You know, has

1030
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: has been under Gus Bradley before him just putting that

1031
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: together for the first time. He's really good. And Jordan

1032
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: Hicks of the Eagles, I think as a three down

1033
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: linebacker who would it very much with the Chargers. So

1034
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: there's linebackers, and you said they're looking for defensive lineman.

1035
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: That's the deepest position in free agency is is ends

1036
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: in tackles. I think on the defensive line's well, because

1037
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: it's the same in the draft apparently, you know, right,

1038
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: and the Chargers need a lot of defensive tackles. They're

1039
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: all free agents right now. Yeah, they're and they're good

1040
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: at edge rusher. Right. You got you got Boss, you

1041
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: got Ingram, you got Nuosu who came on. You got

1042
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: Isaac Rochelle, who was a seventh round pick to LESCo

1043
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: in company. You look at the last two drafts, Greg,

1044
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: they've had I think all fourteen picks remain on the roster,

1045
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: thirteen have played in a game. Eleven have started a game,

1046
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: and that doesn't include guys like Eckler and Badgeley who

1047
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: they picked up. It really kind of solved the kicking positions.

1048
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: So it's a young team here, right, it's a young team.

1049
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pieces and a lot of depth

1050
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: behind some of these older guys too. Yeah, and that

1051
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: makes defensive tackle even more important because they're gonna want

1052
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: to get some guys in the draft. They probably want

1053
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: to bring back. I would think one of their guys

1054
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: because right now, what they have three free agents there

1055
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: various Filon is probably the guy out of that group

1056
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: that I would think they'd want to bring back the most.

1057
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: And also I think could Sneaky get a nice contract

1058
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Speaker 1: in free agency because I think he's he's shown some

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00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: some good things. But if you're look, you know, it's

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00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: not that hard to find, like a run stopping guy

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Speaker 1: in the middle, a guy like Marcus Hunter or the

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Speaker 1: there are defensive tackles out there. Af C West obviously

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Speaker 1: a new coach and quarterback in Denver. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator. In Kansas City. The Raiders have

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00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: three first round draft picks. There's undoubtedly going to be

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Speaker 1: more changes, probably over the next month or two. You know,

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Speaker 1: as we sit here at the end of February entering March,

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Speaker 1: what's your early forecast of this division? Wow? You know,

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00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: you know my forecast of this division has not been great.

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00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: I guess I had the Chargers winning it last year.

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00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't too far off, and I had Jesus twelve

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Speaker 1: and four we have I'm thinking of two years ago,

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Speaker 1: and I thought this was the best division in football

1074
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: and didn't really you know, work out that way. Well,

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00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders kind of disappointed that right, and the Broncos

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00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: that year, But you are, you feel like the Chargers

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00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs are pretty far ahead of the other

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: two teams. That's what It's what it feels like. It's

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00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: what it feels like, and you're just kind of looking

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00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: at the standings. But it is new coaches uh in

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00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: Denver and a lot of roster problems and Flacco a

1082
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: quarterback back. It's it's just not a great team. And

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00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders are as rebuilding a team as there is

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00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So it does feel like you've got

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00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: two great quarterbacks in Kansas City in Los Angeles, and

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00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: two teams that are pretty deep with young players. You

1087
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: just have two teams that to me feel about as

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00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: safe as as a ten win team as just about

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00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: anyone in the a FC, you know, along with the Patriots,

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00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 1: and that's especially because I think they're just significantly better

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00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 1: than the Broncos the Raiders. But it never works out

1092
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: that way. So I've learned that no nothing carries over.

1093
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: But you know, like the Chiefs to me would be

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00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: if you just had to pick one team who's the

1095
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: favorite in the AFC. If you just had to pick

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00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: one team, it's like, I'm gonna give it to the

1097
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: twenty five year old MVP. You can't argue anything, you know,

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00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: you can't argue with a great coach. And I'm a

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00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: big Andy Reid believer, and you know, I just think

1100
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: he creates offense every year, and so I just I

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00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: just feel like that team's gonna find a way to

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00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: double digit wins. And that's where you start, you know,

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00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: speaking of coaching and continuity, I think that's just like

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00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: the underlying theme with the Charges. It was the same

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00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: last year, but you continue to keep the coaching staff together,

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00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: right with with wizzen Hunt and Bridley and a lot

1107
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: of the positional coaches under those guys. I think there's

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00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: something to be said about that. You know, you go

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00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: into a new season and there's not a lot to

1110
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: learn that's new in terms of your surroundings. That's true.

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00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: And the Chiefs are changing their defense, which I think

1112
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: was a move they needed to make. But I totally

1113
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: agree when you look at what's made the Patriots special

1114
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: and the Steelers too, as the best teams in the AFC,

1115
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: that continuity is huge because the Patriots, they haven't just

1116
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: been running the same since them for a few years.

1117
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: They've been doing it for like eighteen years. Yeah, and

1118
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: then and it's like you can change what you want

1119
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: to do on a week to week basis so much

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00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: easier because there's this like common language that the players

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00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: and the coaches that everyone speaks. And you're right, the Chargers,

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00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: it's crazy to think now have about as good continuity

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00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: as like any any any teams other than you know,

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00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 1: the Steelers, the Patriots, the Seahawks. There's a few teams

1125
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: out there, there's not there's not many, and it's you know,

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00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: it's the coaches. But it's also I mentioned just the

1127
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: success that they've had in the draft. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: of the same guys that have been drafted, you know,

1129
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: so you're you're really building this team through the draft.

1130
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: They were selective in free agency last year, getting poundc

1131
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowler, So I think they've really kind of

1132
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: picked and choosed their spots and free agency to really

1133
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: bolster the roster. Yeah, they need you know, you mentioned

1134
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: lamp and you know those two offensive line picks. You know,

1135
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 1: I don't think it's panned out the first two years

1136
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: like they would hope back to back, but otherwise they've

1137
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: done really well on the draft and continuity wise. That's

1138
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: how you win is by if you can stack up

1139
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: good drafts one one after another. You're not going to

1140
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: count on trying to figure out how to get veterans

1141
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: from another team that's going to help your team because

1142
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: it's really tricky. Um, there's a lot that goes into it.

1143
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: You can just plug a guy in, you can do it.

1144
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: You can do it, but it's easier once you have

1145
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: that base of guys that are draft picks, no doubt.

1146
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: So what's this we'd like for you? What do you

1147
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: have going on? This is like the NFL spring break here.

1148
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: I know you have a lot of podcast obligations and

1149
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,479
Speaker 1: stuff like seventy degrees colder. It's like I've spent another

1150
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: fifteen fifteenth combine. It's like I've spent a lot of

1151
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: time in Indianapolis of my life. Uh, you know, we

1152
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: take podcasts, We do a Twitter show on Thursday, and

1153
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: then we go to cover the pro side. So yeah,

1154
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: all the gms and coaches are here. We talk to

1155
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: them all, we listen to them all. You got to

1156
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: feel like I just talked to Brian Flores and Chris

1157
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Greer talked to GM and the Dolphins,

1158
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: So you gotta feel like guys and new roles, how

1159
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna handle it, how they're gonna answer question. Do

1160
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: you get just little nuggets, little peaks ahead of like

1161
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: what's gonna come next week? Who's gonna get franchise tag?

1162
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, who's gonna get traded? Because that's the thing,

1163
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: Like the draft to me is so far away. And

1164
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: Marty if this is spring break, let's like free agency

1165
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: is Marty Gray And that really starts right when we

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00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: leave here. Yeah, I forgot to ask you your your

1167
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: seventh ranked linebacker in the twenty nineteen NFL draft, Adolphus

1168
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: Howard from Washington State, And I made up that name.

1169
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: I love it. Greg, thanks so much, but thanks and

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. For Episode number one hundred, I

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Speaker 1: thanks to Greg Rosenthal, Jim Trotter, Matthew Barry, Steve Atwater,

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Speaker 1: and Adam Schefter for joining me. And of course thanks

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00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: you all for listening. Remember downloaded subscribe on Apple podcast

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Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly every Thursday, Episode one hundred. We hope to

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Speaker 1: make it one hundred more. Until next time, I'm Chris

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Speaker 1: Harry h