1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Mr garbutsch Off, tear down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: us where you were with the terrorists. If you've got 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. If you're 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: satisfied with is not President of the United States, take 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: it to a bank. Together, we will make America great again. 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: We'll never sharender. It's what you've been waiting for all day. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with America now joined the conversation called Buck 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: toll free at eight four four hundred Buck. That's eight 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: four four nine hundred to eight to five the future 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: of talk radio, Buck Sexton, Team Buck. Welcome to the 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt Baltimore, Maryland edition. I'm here in Baltimore, Maryland, 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: meeting with some friends and associates in the in the business. 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: I was in d C yesterday very much enjoyed my 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: stroll down Memory Lane in the District of Columbia. Doesn't 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: have the best politics, obviously, but it is a place that, uh, 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: you know, I generally have some fondness for. And now 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm here in Baltimore and enjoying, enjoying the sites and 18 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: getting to get acclamate to this place. Never been here before, 19 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: first time ever, first time ever in Baltimore, So let's 20 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: get into what we're gonna talk about today on the show, 21 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: and we will be taking calls eight four buck eight 22 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: four four nine two eight two five. We're gonna be 23 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: jumping into healthcare here in a second, the latest on that. 24 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: We'll also talk about the uh liberation of Rucca from 25 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: the Islamic States, grasp that I'll be coming up later 26 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: on this hour. Also some more information about the extent 27 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: of pro Hillary corruption in the government, both at the 28 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: d o J and well across the board during the 29 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: Obama administration. We'll get into that later on. Its very 30 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: interesting reporting on it. If I have time, maybe some 31 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: of the New York Times undercover footage courtesy of Project 32 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: Very Toss I may speak to that for a little bit. 33 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I see here there's some breaking news that yet another 34 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: individual has been caught up in the sexual harassment allegations 35 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: that are rocking Hollywood, that are really tearing going after 36 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: some of the the big heavy hitters, not just Harvey Weinstein, 37 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: there're others too, And the Amazon Studios head has resigned 38 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: after harassment accusation. Keep in mind that Amazon, Netflix, these 39 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: are the big studios of the future, so this is 40 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: a big deal. We don't think of Amazon as a 41 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: as a Hollywood, as a Hollywood producer, or as something 42 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: that makes products that are in that space. But Amazon 43 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: has a ton of cash on its balance sheet and 44 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: a lot of ability to not just put content out 45 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: there for people to buy, but also to create its 46 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: own content. So that that is just some breaking news 47 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: owner share with you. I think I'll skip past the 48 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: latest iteration of CNN with oh my gosh, there's a 49 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: troll Russian trolls. There's like all these trolls from Russia 50 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: that are trying to we're trying to influence the election. 51 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say about it at 52 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: this point. This is an obsession on the left with 53 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: the oh the Facebook ads and trolling, and they just 54 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: will not let it go. He here we are. We're 55 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: gonna be at the at the one year mark pretty 56 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: soon of the Trump presidency and we're still gonna be 57 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: hearing about it. A Russian oligarch had a friend who 58 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: also had a cousin who owned a business that bought 59 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: some stuff tied to the Kremlin and then put Facebook 60 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: ads out. It's just what is this? Yeah, I mean, 61 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: the Russians engage in propaganda they've engaged in again for 62 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: a long time. It's nothing new, but it gets people 63 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: on the left excited because it's it just feeds the 64 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: idea that the election never really happened and will somehow 65 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: be nullified, which what this all comes down to. These 66 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: long estate discussion come up I think will be really 67 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: interesting and will also work in some of the Kurdish 68 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: independence uh analysis that I haven't gotten to yet. But first, 69 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: let's talk healthcare for a minute, because there were some 70 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: surprises on the healthcare front today. And oh and maybe 71 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: i'll get to uh the John McCain feud right now 72 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: in the media with Trump over comments about nationalism. I 73 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I don't know if you really 74 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: do we want to hear. But do you want to 75 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: get into that today? Maybe maybe not? Uh, First on healthcare, 76 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: because that does matter. As I say, we prioritize here 77 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: right usually beginning of the show, most important news the day, 78 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot strategic level, big impact situations and analysis, 79 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: and then we tend to get a little deeper into 80 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: the weeds, maybe a little national security in the third hour. 81 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: It's just what I think about what's going on in life. 82 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Maybe some history, some other fun or interesting or compelling stuff. Today. 83 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: I'll probably do some news in the last hour of 84 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: the show. But healthcare is one of those topics that 85 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: when there's something that has occurred, something has changed, it 86 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: is necessary for us to keep an eye on it. 87 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Because I'm sure you've got a little card in your pocket, 88 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: or you've got one nearby, or whatever you deal with healthcare. 89 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: We all deal with it personally as a family and friends, 90 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: as a business owner, whatever it. Maybe we're constantly interacting 91 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: with the health care market. It is. You may not 92 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: care that much about health care stories, although I'm sure 93 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: you do, but healthcare certainly cares about you. There is 94 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: no way to avoid it. And Trump has been very 95 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: clear for a long time now, whenever I say that, 96 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: I think of Obama, let me be clear. Well, i'd 97 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: like to be clear. Well, let me be clear. Uh, 98 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: I just did my own little montage there. But that 99 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: was a favorite verbal pose of the Obama, of the 100 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: Obama rhetorical tool kid right, Well, may well, may be clear, 101 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be clear. So whenever I say that, now, 102 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: that's Obama. Also for a while, maybe not want to 103 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: say the word, folks, because I felt like he was 104 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: particularly overused it as a means of of seeming like, 105 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, he's in touch with the folks. You know, 106 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: people use this word folks because it makes them seem folksy, right, 107 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: it makes them seem more approachable and connected, know, just 108 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: just a part of the folks. Man. I'm just but 109 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: now I use it again because it is a it 110 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: is a fun catch all. And I don't think I 111 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: can get away with saying y'all yet. Although I appreciate 112 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: that many of my wonderful team buck listeners in the 113 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: South have said buck you are you are cleared. I 114 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: give you permission to yawl it up. But I still, 115 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: as a Yankee from New York City, I kind of 116 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: stumble on my all, it's just not there yet. It's 117 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: just not there yet. I'm working on y'all. I'm getting 118 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: better at it. But healthcare, all right, So Trump has 119 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: been clear going back on track here for a moment 120 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: about how Obamacare is a disaster. He's been saying it 121 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: for quite some time. He just said it earlier today. 122 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: Here's what it was. Play clip to please Obamacare? He did, 123 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: are you trying to keep it alive? Obamacare is virtually dead. 124 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: At best, you could say it's in its final legs. 125 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: The premiums are going through the roof, the deductibles are 126 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: so high that people don't get to use it. Obamacare 127 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: is a disgrace to our nation. And we are solving 128 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: the problem of Obamacare now for most of us, because 129 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: we've been promised for a long time. For most of us, 130 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: Obamacare being solved means Obamacare being gone. That was my impression, 131 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: because that's what I was told, Repeal in her place, 132 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: repeat and replace. The Congress has failed now multiple times 133 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: to get to that point at which repeal and replace happens. 134 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: And so now we look at, well, what can be done, 135 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: what is achievable? And with the President telling us all 136 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: that Obamacare is on its last legs, that it's going 137 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: to be it's gonna be all collapsing and getting worse 138 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: and worse, I think there's a little dissonance. There's some 139 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: understandable confusion. I share in the confusion because we're also 140 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: hearing today the following this from the Wall Street Journal 141 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: quote to senators on Tuesday finalize the basic contours of 142 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: a bipartisan deal designed to shore up the nation's health 143 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: insurance markets. While giving states more say and how they 144 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: implement rules set out by the Affordable Care Act. The 145 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: bill would, among other things, preserved for two years, the 146 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: billions of dollars in payments made to insurers to offset 147 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: consumers out of pocket costs. President Donald Trump said last 148 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: week his administration would be ending the payments, a move 149 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: democrats and health analysts have feared would lead to rising 150 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: premiums and scant ensure participation on the individual markets. The bill, 151 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: forge by centers Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Patty Murray 152 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: of Washington, caps almost three months of talks to forging 153 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: agreement that aims to appeal to both parties. So so 154 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: let's just let's take steps to take a step back 155 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: and take stock of what this means. They're saying President 156 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Trump's out there sing Obamacare is on the way out. 157 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: It's it's a a dying statute, or it's a dying construct. 158 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: It's just not going to be sustainable, and that I 159 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: think is certainly true. But then you wonder, all right, well, 160 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: why aren't we going to try and fix it, because 161 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: just sending more money to you know, last week, Trump's 162 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: on this executive order that stops the payments that the 163 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: federal government was making of the executive branch instead of 164 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: through legislative appropriations. It's going to stop the process of 165 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: giving that money the exchanges. But now here Congress is acting, right, 166 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: So so Trump's like, this is for Congress to act on, 167 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: but the Congress is acting. Okay, that's a good thing. 168 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: But isn't this the Congress then shoring up the failing 169 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: Obamacare bill with taxpayer dollars in a way that if 170 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: we really think this law should go is going and 171 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: needs to go, why are we gonna shovel money at it? 172 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that a problem of I'm a little bit I 173 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: have to share with you. I'm a little perplex right now. 174 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: And Trump spoke about this earlier day as well. Play 175 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: clip thirteen please um. Apparently Lamar Alexander has said he's 176 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: made a deal with Senator Patty Murray to stabilize Obamacare. 177 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: Has the White House been involved in those negotiations and 178 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: will you support that deal? Yes, we have been involved, 179 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: and this is a short term deal because we think 180 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: ultimately block grants going to the states is going to 181 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: be the answer. That's a very good solution. We think 182 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: it's going to not only save money, but give people 183 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: much better healthcare with a very very much smaller premium spike, 184 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: and you look at what's gone on with that, also 185 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: much lower deductible so they can use it. Uh Lamar 186 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: has been working very very hard with the Democratic his 187 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: colleagues on the other side, and Patty Murray is one 188 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: of them in particular, and they're coming up and they're 189 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: fairly close to a short term solution. The solution will 190 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: be for about a year or two years, and it 191 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: will get us over this intermediate hump because we have, 192 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: as you probably know, we have either half the votes 193 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: who were very close to having the votes, and we 194 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: will get the votes for having really the potential of 195 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: having great healthcare in our country. So they are indeed working, 196 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: but it is a short term solution so that we 197 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: don't have this very dangerous little period, including dangerous period 198 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: for insurance companies by the way, for a period of 199 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: one year two years, we will have a very good solution, 200 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: but we're going to have a great solution ultimately. I 201 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: think a better word than solution here would be stop gap. 202 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: If the belief is that or if the purpose is 203 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: that this is just to prevent the exchanges from collapsing 204 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: in the short term, then that's all this should be, right, 205 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: And so to say it's a solution, okay, maybe you 206 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: could say it's solving the immediate problem, but it's not 207 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: dealing with the overarching issues of Obamacare. This just puts 208 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: money into it and says, okay, well, we'll do something 209 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: better going forward. What's that something that's supposed to be 210 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: better or or starting to make things better. The legislation, 211 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: this bipartisan legislation that's out there today, would make it 212 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: easier to get a bare bones health insurance plan. People 213 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: call them a catastrophic plans. I believe. They also call 214 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: them copper plans because it's like gold, silver, bronze or 215 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: copper slightly better than rusty tin, rusty tin nail plan 216 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: or something, right, I mean, they've got copper plan here. 217 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Uh So these plans would be available there are there 218 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: available only to people under age thirty. And there's some 219 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: other provisos. You've got to show economic hardship. That so 220 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: more people be able to get low cost, high high 221 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: not high premium. Sorry, that would be the high deductible, 222 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: thank you, low cost, high deductible plans. So that's a 223 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: little bit better, but not that much better. This is 224 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: I think where we're going to run into some problems here, 225 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: because if the horizon of healthcare reform is extended too far, 226 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: then you're assuming that Republicans are going to be in 227 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: this position forever, which I'm starting to see that this 228 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: is not part of the legislative thinking here, or maybe 229 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: it is, which would be even more disconcerting. But Okay, 230 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this for years, or well, what what 231 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: does the Senate look like in two years? Are we 232 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: so sure that it's going to stay in Republican hands 233 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: in two years, especially if the repeal in replace of 234 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: Obamacare has not happened, if promises have not been kept, 235 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: This isn't really keeping a promise. Uh. This is at 236 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: best rolling back some of the mandatory benefits under the 237 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: A c A. But here's the problem. If the overall 238 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: structure of the Obamacare exchanges and everything else stays in place, 239 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: and it's just a question of turning the money on 240 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: and turning the money off from the federal government and 241 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: also expanding mandatory benefits under A c A the Affordable 242 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: Care Act Obamacare, or contracting those benefits based on the 243 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: political whims of any given moment of any given Congress. 244 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: Then this we're just gonna this is gonna become like 245 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: the tax code, right goes up, a little down, a 246 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: little up, a little down, a little doesn't, but overall 247 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: it's still a monstrosity. That's the current tax code. Obamacare 248 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: is going to start to mirror that here, Republicans, do, 249 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, make it a little better. But then Democrats 250 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: come into that. We cannot assume that incremental change is 251 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: good enough or even possible over the long term to 252 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: achieve the ends of a replacement of Obamacare. Sweeping bold action, 253 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: my friends, at some point, the GOP Congress needs to 254 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: get it together, get their spines stiffened collectively, and take 255 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: action on Obamacare that will dramatically change the way we 256 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: buy health insurance. The way it is market based, the 257 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: way providers have incentives for better, more efficient, more cost 258 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: effective care, and that the dollars follow the patient. The 259 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: patient makes the decisions. That's what has to happen here. 260 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: This is this nibbling around the edges. I'm not saying 261 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: it's not good, I'm just saying it's not good enough. Yet. 262 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I want to salute in both Lamar Alexander and Patty 263 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Murray for working Hall Art on a bipartisan solution. We 264 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: think it's a good solution, and it got broad support 265 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,479 Speaker 1: when Patty and I talked about it at the Caucus 266 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: at lunch today. First, it stabilizes the system two year. 267 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: In two years, of course, sharing provides real stability to 268 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: the system, and we want to make sure that happens. 269 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: We want to work in the long term to reduce 270 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: premiums in increased coverage. Our Republican colleagues seem to be 271 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: in the opposite place on the long term, but I 272 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: think there's a growing consensus that in the short term 273 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: we need stability in the markets. So we've achieved stability 274 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: if this agreement becomes law. We've also put in some 275 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: very significant anti sabotage provisions prating sabotaging this bill, and 276 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: the agreement would undo much of that sabotage. Sabotage no, 277 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: not allowed. Chuck Schumer likes this way too much, uh, 278 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: way too much for me to think that it's a 279 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: good idea. That's I'm I'm opposed. I know this isn't 280 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: how you should do your politics in general, but I'm 281 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: opposed to it because Chuck is for it. But that's 282 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: a pretty Jack Schilma, that's a pretty good, pretty good 283 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: yardstick I think that you can use here. And you've 284 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: also got Senator Patty Murray, which is not exactly a 285 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: giant not going to give me a giant vote of 286 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: confidence here play clip. Right now, patients and families across 287 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: our country are looking at the harmful steps that President 288 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: Trump has taken to sabotage healthcare in our country. They're 289 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: looking at their bank accounts, and they're realizing if the 290 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: President is allowed to continue down the path he has 291 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: headed on, they are the ones that are going to 292 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: pay the price. So I'm really glad that Democrats and 293 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: Republicans agree it's unacceptable and that the uncertainty and dysfunction 294 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: cannot continue. And I'm very pleased that in the hearings 295 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: and discussions with over half he goes on to talk 296 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: about Sabbath TAJ. Sabotage is clearly the in the center 297 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: of the talking points right now for the Democrats. He's 298 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: trying to sabotage it. He's just being the word. He's 299 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: sabotaging the healthcare marketplaces, says Chuck Shuma. But yeah, that's 300 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: that's what they're all supposed to say, because illegal payments, 301 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: they're not legal payments that have been made, because illegal 302 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: payments have been made by the were made by the 303 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: Obama administration in order to shore up these failing exchanges. 304 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: Now those payments have to forevermore be made. It seems 305 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: they're just hiding how problematic the exchanges really are. They're 306 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: just hiding that this is this is a recipe doomed 307 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: and I think intentionally doomed to failure. Forcing people into 308 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: exchanges that they don't want to be in, where they're 309 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: paying mostly for other people's health care or the taxpayer 310 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: is subsidizing them, is not gonna make for good exchanges. 311 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: All right, We've got a ton of lines live here, 312 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: so I do want to get to some calls. Eight 313 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: four to five will do that. We'll talk about Ice 314 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: is taking Roca. It is a day that of celebration 315 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: and the fight against Jeehodism. Today, my friends, we'll get 316 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: into that he's holding the line for America buck sex 317 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: in his back. I see even more headlines now that 318 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: they're just popping up all over the place here about 319 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: sexual harassment allegation, sexual assault allegations from different actresses out 320 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: there without necessarily Some of them are about wine seeing 321 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: some of them are about other individuals unnamed as if 322 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: yet Reese, Witherspoon, j this is all on the drudgepoort, Reese, Witherspoon, 323 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence, others that are coming out and saying I 324 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: can't even keep up with it, all saying that they 325 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: were really agree you just leave sexually harassed. And then 326 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: you have the main header on on drudger Bob Weinstein, 327 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: so the brother of Harvey Weinstein accused of sexual harassment. 328 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: This is this is a day. It is a day 329 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: of reckoning, or I suppose a month of reckoning for 330 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood for the entertain You know, when people say Hollywood 331 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: really for the entertainment industry, it's well beyond just Hollywood. 332 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: And also it's it's a music industry. News media industry 333 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: has a has a problem with this too, but it's 334 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry. And I'll give you some of 335 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: my thoughts on why I think entergy. I think as 336 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: an industry it's particularly susceptible to real abuse of power, 337 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: and it's a culture that has gone hidden. And on 338 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: the other hand, there's so much virtue signaling right. It's 339 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: almost like they they doth they doth doth protest in 340 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: favor of their progressivism and their feminism in Hollywood too much. 341 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: They make too much of a big deal about how 342 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: left wing and progressive and pro feminist and and pro 343 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: trans and all this stuff they are. And you go, 344 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: hm hmm. Now we look under the surface, and sure 345 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: enough there's a tremendous amount of hypocrisy and and exploitation 346 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: and and even seeming the criminal behavior here. All right, 347 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: I got I know, I know lines, lines. I've gotta 348 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: get the lines. You folks are all kind enough to 349 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: call in and keep me company here, and everyone else 350 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: I know listening likes to hear from members of the team. 351 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: Tim in Mississippi on w b u V. Hey Tim, Hey, 352 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: but can you doing I'm all right, thank you for 353 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: calling listen a couple of things, and you kind of 354 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: hit on a couple of my points here in the 355 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: last little bit that you did. But but this whole, 356 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: this whole deal with the insurance stuff, what what they're 357 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: trying to do. And by the way, Lamar Alexander, Lamar 358 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: Alexander just barely misses the cut for the swamp dwelling 359 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: six that are in the Senate, McConnell, McCain, Graham, mccowski, 360 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: and conquered. Those guys need to be voted out of office. 361 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: But that's another point. Anyway, Alexander is just as big 362 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: as wamp brow as the risk. But but what this 363 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: thing is trying to do and then you hit on it. 364 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: The payments that were made to the insurance companies were 365 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: not mandated by law, They weren't even permitted by law. 366 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: Was done by executive order. Illegal, uh that that he 367 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: can make the order. But the payments are funded through 368 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: the executive branch. What this bill will do is it 369 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: will take out of Donald Trump's hands the ability to 370 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: stop making these payments because essentially what they'll be doing 371 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: is memorializing this in a law. Okay, Now, two things 372 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: about this whole this whole deal. First of all, the 373 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: the subsidies, the money that is going to the insurance companies. Um, 374 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: why why should uh why should taxpayer money be going 375 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: to ensures? And it winds up in their pockets a 376 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: great deal of Now we're also subsidizing the changes, you know, 377 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: to the the individual participants, So we're paying the insurance 378 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: taxpayer money. And I pay a lot of taxes. I'm 379 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: sure you do too. Taxpayer money is going into the 380 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: pockets of the insurance companies and now it's not enough. 381 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: They can't make it their pull and have the exchanges 382 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: because we can't make money blah blah blah um my 383 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: premiums and I have have always paid my own insurance. 384 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: My premiums went from nine hundred dollars nine twelve dollars 385 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: to two thousand, three hundred five dollars a month in 386 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: the last eight months here and your your care has 387 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: not gotten substantially better, has it. It's not like all 388 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden you're getting the white glove service. No, no, 389 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: it has not, not a bit um so. So really, 390 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: the whole insurance thing, I'm paying, and a lot of 391 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: people are paying three different pieces. I'm paying for myself 392 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: at exorbitant rates. I'm paying insurers to do nothing but 393 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: get rich, And I'm subsidizing people that for whatever reason didn't, 394 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: couldn't wouldn't have insurance except for this, and for for 395 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: the administration to allow this now to be put into law. 396 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: I think President Trump is going to be making a serious, 397 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: serious mistake. I totally agree you, Tim I said, what, 398 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: once you turn the money spigot on, it's it's gonna 399 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: be almost impossible to turn it off, right, That's what 400 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: that's the mistake here. I think Trump made the right 401 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: call last week by saying, look, we're just not gonna 402 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: make these payments anymore, but by saying we are going 403 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: to make by by blessing this Senate move to be 404 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: bipartisan and funding the shortfalls in these exchanges. Well, isn't 405 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: Trump telling us that this is terrible, it's falling apart 406 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: and people are going to feel the pain and understand 407 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: that they that this can't continue. Well, which is it? 408 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: I feel that there's a there's a disconnect here with 409 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: the strategy unit, and it feels very short term to me. Absolutely, 410 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: it does to me too, except as you know, if 411 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: they enter into this two year thing, like you said 412 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: a minute ago, um that if this happens to undo 413 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: it will take another act of Congress. Who knows who's 414 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: going to control the congress um in two years? And 415 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: and really there's I mean, I don't know the specific ideas, 416 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: but but it's amazing how um, I guess economic system 417 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: dumb we are in this country. You know, people like free. 418 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: People think free is still a thing, Tim, People think 419 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: that someone else paying for their health care at some 420 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: level or being subsidized by the taxpayer, is not them 421 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: and meaning it does not have any effect on the 422 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: economy and their own earnings and wages and prospects in 423 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: the economy. And I just one more thing on this him, 424 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: and then I got to move the next call. But 425 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: the ads on this for the Democrats right themselves. I mean, 426 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: it's it's one thing to say it's unconstitutional for the 427 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: payments to continue to be made. I think that's a 428 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: that's a strong argument, right. You can't just have the 429 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: federal government writing checks that it feels like writing. Okay, 430 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: once Congress passes it, or assuming Congress passes us and 431 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: Trump signs it, then the ads or the the storyline 432 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: from Democrats becomes, they're cutting off funds for your health care, 433 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: full stop, and that's why it doesn't go away. All right, 434 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: Tim Shields time and great, great call. I can talk 435 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: to you about this all day. But I want to 436 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: thank you very much, sir, But I want to move 437 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: to some of our other callers who are patiently waiting 438 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: here in the queue, and including our friend Greg who's 439 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: calling it from Oklahoma listening on the I Heart app. 440 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: We know Greg greg is a combat veteran. What's up, Greg, Hey? Buck? 441 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: I just wanted to talk about everybody's UH favorite soldier 442 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: who served with honor and distinction. Oh, I know you're 443 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: talking about except berg All decided to plead guilty to 444 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: UH desertion and then misbehavior before the enemy. I think 445 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: the next step is really finding out what this punishment 446 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: is is going to be. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that 447 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: the death sentence is not on the table in this 448 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: particular situation, even though if you read the codes that 449 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: he violated in a time of war, desertion is punsorable 450 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: by death, and so is mis misbehavior before the enemy. 451 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: And I think he's just gonna get life in prison 452 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: and be another cult hero to the left, just like 453 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: brad man It's unbelievable they've done with Bradley Manning by 454 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: not not to divert from the bird doll discussion, but 455 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: that Harvard offered offered him this uh this intern and 456 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: look I I see on all on a lot of 457 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: news networks, they're all referring to Bradley Manning as she 458 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: and Bradley manning the whistle blower. I'm like, dumping a 459 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: ton of classified documents on the internet is not whistle blowing. 460 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: It's just just it's betraying your country, and it's wildly irresponsible, right, 461 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: It's it's amazing the narrat anyway with burg Doll. I mean, look, Greg, 462 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: you're a guy who was out there literally on on 463 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: the front lines and and uh you know, facing down 464 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: those uh, those enemies and dealing with those very real 465 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: threats to your person day in and day out. So 466 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: I hear from you and others who have warned the 467 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: uniform and served in combat zones across the board very 468 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: very much want to see stern, stern punishment, perhaps not 469 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: the ultimate punishment, but stern punishment for bird Doll for 470 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 1: what for what he did, because of the implications of 471 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: having other people having to go find him on top 472 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: of everything. On on CNN, your former colleague John Bremen, 473 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: he wondered aloud, if quote, beyond what he had already 474 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: served with captivity with the Taliban, would you know service 475 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: justice for his desertion and misbehavior before the enemy, As 476 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: if him being captured wasn't his own fault and that 477 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: should count towards his sentencing at some point like it 478 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: was mind blowing that he actually said this, let me 479 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: have one other thing, this Greg, I mean, if this 480 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: were if burg Doll had not been brought back at 481 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: the cost of you know, trading Taliban senior you know, 482 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: few senior fighters and and senior organizers, if burgall had 483 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: not been traded under the Obama administration and it was 484 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: not part of Obama's the whole Rose Garden speech and 485 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: all this stuff. Do you think that you'd be hearing 486 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: from any senior government officials who are who are clearly 487 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: Democrats about how yeah, you know, the punishment we don't 488 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: have to worry about. No, it's because this was an 489 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: Obama decision and they don't want to they don't want 490 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: to look as bad, right, And they only did this 491 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: is because the memory hole, the v A scandal that 492 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: was exploding in front of their face at the time 493 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: they hold this Rose Garden and then all of a sudden, 494 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: the v A scandal disappears from the front page. And 495 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: this is great celebration of the you know, forty eight 496 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: hours of the Obama a ministration and saying, hey, he 497 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: served with honor and distinction until you actually talk to 498 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: anybody that served with him and like, no, he completely 499 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: messed up the into the war. Greg, I know you 500 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: were in rock Vet before. We have to run into 501 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: a break here because we've got our guests, But let 502 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: me ask you first and foremost your thoughts on your 503 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: your thoughts on Kurdish independence and Kurds in the fight 504 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: against ices Buck. I'm grateful that you keep putting this 505 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: in front of people. I think this is one of 506 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: the main passions that most veterans that I know have U. 507 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: The Curtish people are warriors that have a warrior culture, 508 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: and so it really uh speaks to us. And honestly, 509 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: if I didn't have a family, I would be over 510 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: there fighting with the Freshmerga or the p k K. 511 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: At this point, I mean, this is absolutely ridiculous. Trump's 512 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: statement yesterday UH really sent me into a heated and 513 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: just because again we're leaving them behind and not backing 514 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: them up when they've literally saved Iraq from ISIS in 515 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen, fifteen and sixteen and then push 516 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: them out and essentially took rocket today h Slash last night. 517 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: So to turn our back on these people is infuriating 518 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: and get my blood pressure up even right now just 519 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: talking about it. I hear you, I hear you. Man well, 520 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: Greg has always great call my friend, thank you for 521 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 1: your service and Shields High team. We're going to run 522 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: into a quick break here. We're gonna talk about isis 523 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: the fall of Rock into the hands of the good 524 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: guys finally thanks to in large part of our friends 525 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: the Kurds along with some US some essential US MILL help. 526 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: We will get into that and also talk a bit 527 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: about Kurtish independence and then the latest on Hillary's un 528 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: ending circle of corruption. We can have some fun with that, 529 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: and later on the show, I'll talk to you about 530 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: judicial uh not just activism, but lunacy courtesy of a 531 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: judge in Hawaii that is part of the hashtag resistance 532 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: against Trump. Maybe some thoughts on the Weinstein the continuing 533 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: spiral into the eighth circle of Hell, that is the 534 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: Weinstein harassment slash assault story as well. And it's gone 535 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: well beyond Weinstein, as I've been saying to it's now 536 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: spreading and there's more and more that's going to be 537 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: coming out. You are now entering the Freedom Tactical Operations Center. 538 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: Programs must be kept strictly need to know Team Buck 539 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: is cleared and ready for the Buck brief. Well, the 540 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: day we have been waiting for for years now is 541 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: finally upon us. The Islamic State has lost control of Rocca, 542 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: It's capital, it's de facto capital in Syria. Uh. The 543 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: Syrian Democratic forces with US backing and air power, have 544 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: finally beaten the j hottest Sadis not just on their 545 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: home turf, but in the heart of the territory that 546 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: they once controlled. And now it seems like it is 547 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: just going to continue to roll them up going forward. 548 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: We have Hassan Hassan with us. He is the co 549 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: author of ISIS inside the Army of Terror. Hassan, great 550 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: to have you back. Tell us what's going on with 551 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: Rocca right now? Well, thank you for having me. Well. Uh, 552 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: the bottle of Rockers is almost over. Uh. There's kind 553 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: of tent of the city. Uh. It's still under the 554 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: control of ISIS. Uh. But the American officials and people 555 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: like the commanders on the ground considered the battle done. 556 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: It's just a clearing and remain of pockets. You have 557 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: also had to also remember that the same thing happened 558 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: in most of the battle continued for for a bit 559 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: of a while, but it's really done practically speak right, 560 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: they sees that stadium that was set up by ISIS 561 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: in the center of Rocca as something i've a last 562 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: stand position, right, So that was the final, the final 563 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: big stronghold of of ISIS fighters that is now in 564 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: the hands of the Syrian Democratic forces. There will be 565 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: some mopping up operations in the city and then continued 566 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: security encounter and surgery concerns. But on the Syrian side, 567 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: and I want to ask you about the Iraqi sign 568 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: just a moment, Hassan. On the Syrian side, what's still 569 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: left in ISIS or g hottest aligned hands in terms 570 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: of territory, Well, there is still there's still a major 571 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 1: stronghold UH in the province of der Zor that's larger 572 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: than Rocco in terms of territory size wise, it's it's 573 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: much bigger than Rocco, but it's UH. It's predominantly try Um, 574 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: predominantly rural areas. US. There's in that in that space, 575 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: there's kind of there's two or three small cities or 576 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: urban centers, but it's ISIS is on the run in Syria. 577 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: The problem though, is that this is a time when 578 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: ice ICES is changing tactics. So it's actually uh moving 579 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: away from kind of face to face with the US 580 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: backed forces. So they know so well they've melted away 581 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: into the civilian population now and they're going to engage 582 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: in insurgency. I so, yes, exactly, so insurgency and full force. 583 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: Now there are less emphasizing the territory and the klip 584 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: it and they're moving away into insurgency. They've been talking 585 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: about this recently in their publications and their public discourse, saying, uh, 586 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: in two thousands, in two thousand and eight, we did 587 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: the same thing. We dismantled all our fights in units 588 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: and turned and turned everyone into an I e D expert, 589 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: and we trained all all our fighters to be I 590 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: e D experts. And this is what they're trying to do. Now. 591 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: What is the status of the Syrian regime, the Assad regimes, 592 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: security and and territorial gains right now? I mean, how 593 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,959 Speaker 1: is how is a sad looking at all? This? Well? 594 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: I said, is looking pretty well? He on one hand, 595 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: he has won the strategic war, so nobody wants to 596 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: topple as Sad anymore, and no regional even the oppositions 597 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: regional backers. They're not interested in bringing down Acid regime, 598 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: including Turkey. Turkey was one of the kind of the 599 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: sorriest backers of the Syrian opposition. They are now more 600 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: or less or indirectly actually working with the Acid regime, 601 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: and their policy is in line with the Russian and 602 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: the Iranian policy in northern Syria, so they're actually working together. 603 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: The Gulf states have no interest in Syria anymore. There 604 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: there we saw today, for example, the former uh A 605 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: Saudi ambassadors to Iraq went with Bret McGurk into Syria 606 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: to visit the deliberated area is that the Americans liberated 607 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: and helped liberate in eastern Syria, and they're talking about 608 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: rebuilding rock for example. So uh answered, this is looking 609 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: pretty you know, please stay right there. There's no there's 610 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: no serious Really, the Assad regime has lived throughout this 611 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: entire horrific civil war. Half a million casualties were so 612 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: the Asade regime is going to live to fight another day. Yes, absolutely, 613 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: abs what it's good to say, that's there's no question 614 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: about this at the opposition to talk about resistant asset, 615 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: but they're really privately that there except the reality this 616 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: is unless something changes. But for now as it is 617 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: is fine. The question really is what to do with 618 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: what remains of Syria and what what the future in 619 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: the kind of the far future, and is the since 620 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: future um nobody is talking about removing now and militarily 621 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: is also doing well. Now there's a race between the 622 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: Russians and Americans in the Eastern Syria over who takes 623 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: which areas in in what remains of isis Terris alright? 624 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: Hassan Hassan, co author of Isis Inside the Army of Terror? 625 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: Check it out. It's on Amazon. Hassan. Always great to 626 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: have you man, Thank you for your time. Thank you, sir, 627 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: He's back with you now. Because when it comes to 628 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. Tee him. 629 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: I know a lot of shows, TV radio, a lot 630 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: of hosts, a lot of people who work in the 631 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: information a new space would probably skip over any any 632 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: in depth discussion of a breakaway province of a faraway country, 633 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: though when we've been at war in and I've been 634 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: very involved in for quite some time now, but a 635 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: lot of people would skip over it in my business 636 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: in order to move on to the latest UH tweet 637 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: war against the Trump administration or whatever it may be, 638 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: right talk about how some unfunny leftist female comedian has 639 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: said something terrible about somebody on the on the right. 640 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: I think Kurdistan matters. I think the Kurdish issue is important, 641 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: and I think that I can discuss it in a 642 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: way where you'll see that this reflects more than just 643 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: a decision about what the best strategy is for us 644 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: in dealing with this issue in Iraq. It reflects who 645 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: we are as a country. And that's why I think 646 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: you get some of the most passionate reactions on this 647 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: issue from veterans, veterans who served in Iraq and who 648 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: saw firsthand the incredible spirit and tenacity and honor of 649 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: the Iraqi Kurds. Despite all of the atrocities around them, 650 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: the genocide around them, the genocide visited upon them by 651 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein, the on Fall campaign, the poison gas attack 652 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: at Halabja, a Kurdish town, dropping poison gas on men, 653 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: women and children from Saddam's helicopters. They have endured through 654 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: all of this, and despite the breakdown of their country 655 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: into a g hottest sadest anarchy. For a while, the 656 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: Kurds kept it together somehow, um as a result of 657 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: the bravery of Kurdish Peshmerga and the trustworthiness of the 658 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: Kurdish government. Look, I'm not naive, and no government is perfect. 659 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: They're acting in their own self interest and the interests 660 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 1: of their people. And the Barzanis and and the other 661 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: other clans that run the Kurdish area of Rock that 662 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: run Kurdistan are certainly not without sin. But because of 663 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: the Kurds, I can put it to you in these terms, 664 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: and I think that most of the veterans I know, 665 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: we get a lot of veterans who listened to the show, 666 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: and a lot of active military too. Because of the Kurds. 667 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:21,919 Speaker 1: There are fewer Americans who have come back with grievous 668 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: wounds from Iraq. And there are few Americans who have 669 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: come back having been killed in action because of Kurdish actions, 670 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: because of what they did. Now, it's their country and 671 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: they have an interest in it and all of that. 672 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: But you can't say the same thing about a lot 673 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: of Sunni Arab towns in Iraq. You can't say the 674 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: same thing about fighting alongside you know, Sunni, And I'm 675 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: generalizing here, I know they're there are excellent Sunni Arab 676 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: units in Iraq, and there are a lot of not 677 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: so good ones circa two thousand six, two thousand seven, 678 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, when the surge was happening. I mean, 679 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: you ask, you ask a veteran who's r of in 680 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: Iraq around that time period, would you rather have had 681 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: Peshmurger having your back or whoever the latest Iraqi army 682 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, Sunni and Shia Arab lad Iraqi Army battalion 683 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: rolled in was. You won't get the same answer every time, 684 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: but from a lot of them, you're gonna hear Peshburger. So, 685 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: as I've said, I think we have a gentlemanly obligation. 686 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: We have a debt of honor to the Kurdish people. 687 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: I think that's well established. We are celebrating, and I 688 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: think not nearly celebrating enough the downfall of the Islamic 689 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: State right now because the Kurds provided the ground force. 690 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: So also to my previous thesis about how we have 691 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: fewer wounded and debt Americans in Iraq because of the Kurds, 692 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: that's certainly the case as well in the fight against 693 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: the Islamic State. So this is not just some far 694 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: away place that we can put out of mind. The 695 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: Islamic State was involved in mass casualty attacks in Europe. 696 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 1: Those attacks were planned in Rocca in the surrounding areas. 697 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: People were trained and funded in rock on the surrounding areas, 698 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: and they were coming for us on our own soil 699 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 1: too here in America, and the Kurds helped stamp them out. 700 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: They're still doing it. There's more operations left to come, 701 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: but the Islamic State will, barring some unbelievable reversal of 702 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: fortune in the Islamic State is on the way out 703 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: as a state. It'll be an ideology and Jiad is 704 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: here to stay for a while. But a group that 705 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: calls itself a state, that is the Islamic State, that 706 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: functions as a government, that has its own passport making office, 707 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 1: that has its own police and Shariah courts and all that. Nope, 708 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna be gone in Iraq and Syria soon and 709 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: again thanks to the Kurds. So that's why when I 710 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 1: see the latest news out of Kurdistan, it it really 711 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:11,479 Speaker 1: saddens me. The Iraqi government largely pushed into this and 712 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: and egged on by I R G C. Kods force, 713 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: and Iran has seized Kerk Cook and the surrounding oil fields. 714 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: And Kerk Cook if that's a city that doesn't uh 715 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: pop up in the in the memory bank, it's for 716 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: us just another city in Iraq where we've had, you know, 717 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: our best and bravest fighting and trying to create stability 718 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 1: and turn the lights on and get the sewage flowing 719 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: and everything else in that in that city. But for 720 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: the Kurds, kirk Cook is Jerusalem. That's what they say 721 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: that kirk Cook is the Kurdish Jerusalem. It is the 722 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: most important city to them. Usually you think of Kurdistan 723 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: and areas like air Bill and the cities like our 724 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: Bill and Sumania. But for them, Kerk Cook is the 725 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: the holy Grail of cities. And the Iraqi government has 726 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: taken it back and taken it back by force. And 727 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: I've seen some reports on exchanges of gunfire between Iraqi 728 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: troops and some pesh Murga, although they were immediately said, 729 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: oh no, it's just a misunderstanding. I don't know, I'm 730 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: not there. But now the government in Baghdad wants even more. 731 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: They want the pesh Murga, who whose name means those 732 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: who make a pact with Death, who, even when outgunned 733 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: by ISIS fighters, were willing to stand their ground and 734 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: stick it out. The pesh Murger are supposed to come 735 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: under the authority of the central government in Baghdad. And 736 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: we look at this and we say to ourselves, Okay, 737 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: in the short term, I want to give you the 738 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: short term version of what's happening there and the long 739 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: term version, which is a combination of why you and 740 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: and everyone listening, Well, that's the general you, why we 741 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: should all care about this, and why there is an 742 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: opportunity here. And let me start with what the thinking is, 743 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: and then I'll get to why I think it's wrong 744 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: and how there should be a focus on something else. Um. 745 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: And I think I've talked talked to you for in 746 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: the show going back the Air of Woodrow Wilson, League 747 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: of Nations, the Kords, there's thirty million of them, largest 748 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: stateless people in the world. I just think they also 749 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: they deserve a homeland, not just because they say it, 750 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,879 Speaker 1: not just because they have their own language and then 751 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: their own ethnicity. You can say that a lot of 752 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: they've earned it. They've earned it, and the international community 753 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 1: should recognize that. On the U S should be taking 754 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: a lead on this, but I'm getting ahead of myself. 755 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: In the short term, here's how the Trump administration so far, 756 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: and I break with them on this. You know, I'm 757 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 1: not here to just tell you everything Trump does is great. 758 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. You know that this is a 759 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: foreign policy matter that I disagree with the current administration 760 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: position on. But I think Trump is persuadable on this. 761 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: I don't think it's all over yet. That's also why 762 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about this today on 763 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: the show. I don't think this is signed, sealed and 764 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: delivered against the Kurts, although it has gone badly in 765 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 1: recent days and it's certainly a major setback for them. 766 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: I think if Trump was presented with the arguments in 767 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: the right way, if he was presented with the arguments 768 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: that I'm making here on this show, for example, he 769 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: might change his mind and and there would be a 770 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: way to transition. It wouldn't be an overnight thing, but 771 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: everybody had a transition to official Kurdish independence. The short 772 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: term thinking on this is we don't want to upset 773 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: Turkey because Turkey gets very, uh very antsy about the 774 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: notion of kur even. Remember, Iraq is a separate country, 775 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: a different state from Turkey, right, but the Turks have 776 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,240 Speaker 1: their own Kurdish minority. There has been the p KK 777 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: insurgency in Turkey for decades. It's killed a lot of 778 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: Turks and there's a lot of bad blood over this. 779 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: But to that, I say, the Turkish government has been 780 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: much less helpful and trustworthy on the issue of the 781 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: Islamic State then it should have been, especially early on. 782 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: The Turkish government needs us more than we need them, 783 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: and the Turkish government would learn to live with it. 784 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of direct investment in northern Iraq already. 785 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: They have economic ties to Kurdistan as it is. And 786 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: just because we take up we say that a part 787 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: of Iraq can be Kurdish, doesn't mean that we would 788 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 1: then say, oh yeah, and Turkey too, a huge piece 789 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: of Turkey. No one suggesting that the Turks need to 790 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 1: well it. They'd say it's their backyard. But from my perspective, 791 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: they should back off on this one, but they won't. 792 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: They won't. But that's why we don't want upset Turkey 793 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: NATO ally, although causing problems for US in the region 794 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: and with are Doan has a government in place that 795 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: is it's just going down the wrong path of Islamism 796 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: and authoritarianism. It's pretty scary stuff what's happening in Turkey 797 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: right now, and they're locking up journalists like it's going 798 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,399 Speaker 1: out of style. And then the other piece of this 799 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: is the Iraq Iran issue. And when you look at it, 800 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 1: you say, Okay, we've we've essentially helped build this government 801 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: in Iraq out of Baghdad with Hyderalla body as the 802 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: prime minister, and we don't want to go against them. 803 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: There are ally where we'd be carving up a part 804 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: of their country, right, but what are they really going 805 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: to say to us? They're they're going to do what 806 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: exactly tell us that this is this is impossible, that 807 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: this thinking is is beyond the pale. We've pushed for 808 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: Albanian independence or ethnic Albanians to have independence in the 809 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: state of Kosovo. Uh. You look at South Ossetia, you 810 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: look at South Sudan, new countries are being formed, still 811 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: the map is not done and over with. And then 812 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: you have the Iranian hand on this, which is the 813 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: most ominous and odious of all the players here. That 814 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: you have I r G. C. Kold's force in any way, 815 00:48:54,920 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: shape or form attached to these Shia militias that are 816 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: helping to take control in places like kirk Cook is 817 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: deeply disturbing. Uh. These are true enemies of the United States. 818 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: They are enemies of Western are Western allies? They are 819 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: enemies of Yes, they are enemies of Western civilization. Here's 820 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: what the Wallstreet Journal reports on this issue. Specifically, Iran, 821 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: with its own restive Kurdish population, was the most vocal 822 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: opponent of Kurdistan's independence. The chief of its Kods Force, 823 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: Major General Kassams Solimani, who has nurtured close ties with 824 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: Baghdad and Mr Barzani's Kurdish opponents, played a key role 825 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 1: in Monday's takeover of kerk Cook. This development has prompted Mr. 826 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: Barzani's movement to adopt a stridently anti Iranian tone, potentially 827 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: aligned the conflict with the broader Middle East fracture between 828 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: foes and allies of Tehran. Iran really doesn't want an 829 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: independent Kurdistan. I think Iran realizes that were that to happen, 830 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: you know what, if we were we were playing chess 831 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: instead of checkers here, if we were looking if the 832 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: government right now was looking steps down the line, and 833 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: I understand this would be a transition process. It wouldn't 834 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 1: be forever. But we could be given a lot more 835 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: help and backing to the Kurds than we are. We 836 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: could have air bases in Kurdistan. The Kurds would love it, 837 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: oh man, I'm sure they would. I mean I haven't 838 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,919 Speaker 1: talked to them about it, you know, but I'm sure 839 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: the Kurds would love to have some a permanent US 840 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: military base. I mean, think along the lines of what 841 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: we have in South Korea and Germany. Have that right 842 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: up in Kurdistan in an area where the people couldn't 843 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: be any happier to see US, friendly, trustworthy. Kurdish food 844 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: is good. Look, I'm open about that. I think the 845 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: Kurds are great. Uh. Kurtish food is good. Kurtish people 846 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: are friendly. That like Americans. They love Americans. If we 847 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: set up an air base or two in the north, 848 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, or whatever basis we want, and what do 849 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: you think the Iranians would think? Then no more of this, 850 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: all this this Baghdad Oh we've got you know, we 851 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: don't want to be puppets of the Americans and we're 852 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: gonna cause problem. You know, the courage will be like 853 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: come on in, the water's warm, because the Kurds are 854 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: real allies. And one more thing. So from a strategic 855 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: point of view, the relationship that we could have with 856 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: the Kurds, if they were an autonomous state, could just 857 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: get stronger and stronger and give us a tremendous amount 858 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: of leverage in a part of the world where we 859 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: could really use it. And we would have, you know, 860 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,359 Speaker 1: we if we built an air base there, if there 861 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: was a Curtis stand, if it was a member of 862 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, the the United Nations and seen by the 863 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 1: world as a new state. There's a lot of opportunities there, 864 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: opportunities for investment as well, all kinds of stuff. And 865 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,919 Speaker 1: one more thing. And this is at the broadest level, 866 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: the broadest narrative of what I view is not just 867 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: the counter jihad and the global counterinsurgency against al Qaya, 868 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: the Islamic State and these other these other entities, these 869 00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: other nihilistic, vile, destructive death cults that are out there 870 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: under the banner of of jihad. The Kurds have proven 871 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:13,280 Speaker 1: that a Muslim ethnic group, so they're at their ethnic Kords, 872 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: but there Muslim by religion. The Kurds have proven that 873 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: an Islamic people can be modern, pro western, maintain their identity, 874 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 1: and be an ally to the civilized world in the 875 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: face of the worst jihaddest atrocity is imaginable. They have 876 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: been a beacon to the rest of the Muslim world, 877 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: whether they want to see it or not, about what 878 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 1: is possible, about what friendship with the West and with 879 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: the civilized nations of the world could mean. And to 880 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: miss this opportunity to say, see, there are friends, there 881 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: are allies. They've been with us, they have bled with us, 882 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: they have bled for us, and now we have an 883 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: opportunity to pay them back. I just think it's I 884 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: will say it. I think it's shameful. And we them 885 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: more than this, We owe them more than this. All right, 886 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: We've got calls up on the board here in the 887 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt. And I also want to thank UH w 888 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: CBM A M six eight, Baltimore for hosting me today. 889 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 1: UH special thanks to Shawn Casey, the programming director, Eric Steinegal, 890 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: the chief engineer w c B M A M UH 891 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 1: six eight in Baltimore. Thank you very much for giving 892 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 1: me a Mobile Freedom Hunt for the day, much much appreciated. 893 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: Let's get into all of the latest. Here we have 894 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: on the board. Here we have Dr Bob listening in 895 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: on the I Heart app from in Pennsylvania. What's going on? 896 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:47,399 Speaker 1: Dr Bob? Hey page paging the doctor. What's up? Now? 897 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: You got you gotta cut no speaker phone, sir, You 898 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: gotta come right up to this because everyone wants to 899 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: hear you, Dr Bob. Okay, So there we go. Look 900 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: at oh Crystal clear. Man, it's like you're hanging out 901 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: here with me and everybody else. All right, here's the story. 902 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: First of all, we have to transform everything that you 903 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: just said into action. Now I've written even though I'm Jewish, 904 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm not Kurdish. I've written a half dozen articles over 905 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,839 Speaker 1: the past decade on this issue. And I visited Congress 906 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: on Mondays three weeks ago when they had the hearing 907 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: when the Cassidy Bill, and dropped off a couple of 908 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: articles along those lines. To try to motivate people to 909 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:33,240 Speaker 1: have a conference in Washington. They would pull together all 910 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: of the Kurdish lobbying groups. There are four of them, 911 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 1: and a guy named Sharko, a boss who has been 912 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: educating me on this. Who is the president of the 913 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: Kurdistan National Assembly of Syria can put this together, and 914 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 1: I'd like to ask you if we can recruit your 915 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: support to help coordinate pulling this together as soon as possible, 916 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: because we have to help the Donald under dan that 917 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 1: being neutral, as you pointed out yesterday, when Fox News 918 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: is actually supporting Iran via back. Dad. Do you think 919 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: we can do this? I don't. I don't know the 920 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 1: specifics of what you're trying for your Dr Bob, but 921 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: if if it, if there's a way that I can 922 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: be helpful in getting the administration to understand this Kurdish 923 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 1: issue from a perspective, and it sounds like you and 924 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: I share that that's something I would certainly be interested in. Well, 925 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 1: let me just suggest that Barzani would come over for 926 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: a conference. And the key difference between this and a 927 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: conference that was held in June is it would not 928 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: just be one of the Couratish groups, would be all 929 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: of them. And there we've we've written up in the 930 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: past the various factions that have been backed by various groups. 931 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: But the key thing is we have to push for independence. 932 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: We have to push for the fact that a hundred 933 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: years ago, the Treaty of Severa is promised that this 934 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: was going to occur, and then it was unfortunately supplanted. 935 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: And therefore this is something that's for the thirty plus 936 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: million heards, is something that should have been accomplished not 937 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: just yesterday, but a year ago, if not a century ago, 938 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: if not four thousand years ago, when they first started 939 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: working together as an ethnic group. All right, Dr Bob, 940 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 1: give me a favorite. Send me, send me all this, 941 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 1: Send me all this. You have my Facebook, right, send 942 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: me the message there. I'll get it, and uh, you 943 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,919 Speaker 1: and I can we we can start a dialogue about 944 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: this via email and see where we go. All right, 945 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to hear from you. Thanks, Okay, all right, 946 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 1: Dr Bob, thank you, sir. So I've got two different 947 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 1: stories that i want to get to now, and I'm 948 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,879 Speaker 1: not sure how much time I'm gonna spend on either, 949 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,720 Speaker 1: so we'll see. I think I will skip over that 950 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: I saw it fox, that Bigfoot was reportedly sited in 951 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 1: northern California to pick just have gone viral. Oh man, 952 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's just something it's just fun to read. 953 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's nonsense, but it's fun to read a 954 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 1: big Foot story right now and again big Foot locked ness, 955 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: chupa cabra. There's all kinds of stuff out there. Maybe 956 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: you can get into some of that on around Halloween, 957 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, take take a a fun view of the lore, 958 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: the mythology around all this stuff. I think mythology is 959 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: mythology is just stories as long as you realize it's 960 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: not real. Stories give me great. Uh So, I this 961 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: big Foot photo that was pretty funny. That's out there 962 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 1: right now. I don't think, I don't I don't know 963 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: much to add on that. I'm not a I'm not 964 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 1: a Sasquatch expert um and uh or I never just 965 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 1: really so, I guess the abominable snowman is that like 966 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: in the Himalayas versus the sasqu and Sasquatches up in 967 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest. And I've never really and and big 968 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: Foot is the same as Sasquatch. So that's about as 969 00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 1: much as that now, all right, like buck stop talking 970 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: about the things. Yeah, so I've got put that aside. 971 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: I just saw that story and it made me smile 972 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: for a second. That's all hard turn Now I want 973 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: to get into the the Hillary corruption stuff that broke today, 974 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: and I think was it Solomon and my friend Sarah Carter. Sarah, 975 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: by the way, it's just the greatest. I used to 976 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: work with her a lot at at the Blaze, and 977 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: it's amazing that a journalist can be so effective and 978 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: fierce in her profession and such an incredibly kind, warm 979 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: and trustworthy and patriotic human beings. So, uh, Sarah. I 980 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: can't say enough nice things about Sarah Carter. And you know, 981 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: we've had her on the show many times before. But 982 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 1: I've been working with Sarah for years. I'm not sure 983 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: if this was her. I think it is her piece, 984 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: it's Solomon as well. She's been working with John Solomon 985 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the Hillary email stuff and also on 986 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 1: the Russia gate. So but there's more Hillary corruption about Russia, 987 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 1: and I'll get to that. Put put a pin in 988 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 1: that for a second, but we will talk about it. 989 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: I think it's just giving us more of it's more 990 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 1: detail that is supporting what we already know as as 991 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: conclusions about all this. But put a hold on that 992 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: for a second, because I also just want to note 993 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: that there is not a whole lot of new information 994 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: right think the two stories I wanted to get to 995 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: know obviously Russia. Hillary will get into that in a second, 996 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 1: but first on the Las Vegas mash shooting that happened. 997 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: Here we are now, we've had many days passed since 998 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: that incident, and we don't really have much more in 999 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 1: terms of information. I spoke to you yesterday about how 1000 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: the timeline was fixed and how it seems like Hazos 1001 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: Jesus Campos was maybe caught up in the possibility of 1002 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: his employer being sued. He is completely, uh disappeared. I mean, 1003 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: it's it's known that he's Oh it's Allison Span is 1004 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 1: the one with the piece. Pardon me, well, Sarah still 1005 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: all those things I said about Sarah Carter still stands. 1006 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: So Sarah Carter is still wonderful. But it's Allison Span 1007 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: with the with the piece on Russia, FBI and cover. 1008 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah here, John Solomon and Allison Space. It was John 1009 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Solomon and Allison Span instead of John Solomon and Sarah Carter. 1010 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure Allison Span is great too, I just don't 1011 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 1: know her. So, but back to Las Vegas. Thank you 1012 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 1: producer Amy for not letting me continue to cite the 1013 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: wrong person as the author of that piece. That's why 1014 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: I've got you know, Amy, Yeah, making sure that I 1015 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: stay on the on the factual path here. Uh, although 1016 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 1: she left me alone with the Sasquatch thing, because we 1017 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 1: all know sasquatch. It's just about fun. So we don't 1018 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 1: have we don't have any more back to the serious 1019 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 1: topic of of the investigation here, we don't have anything 1020 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: on on the shooter. Really, we don't have any additional information, 1021 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: which is kind of incredible at this point, not much 1022 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 1: more in the way of motive. And this disappearance and 1023 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,920 Speaker 1: he's not disappeared like no one knows where he is, 1024 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 1: but dropping off the radar of the security guard. It's 1025 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,000 Speaker 1: just something up. And I'm I don't have conspiracies for you. 1026 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't buy into that stuff. One of 1027 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: the reasons why I never think that conspiracies are uh, 1028 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: intellectually sound practice, it is because having spent time in 1029 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: some places where there's a lot of conspiracy theories c 1030 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: I A CFR. You know, go down, go down the 1031 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 1: list of some of these organizations. It's often what people 1032 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: think might be some grandiose plot. It's much more likely 1033 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: to just be in competence, indifference, in aptitude, so I'll 1034 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 1: be amazing if there was like all these people coming 1035 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 1: together from all over the world and there's like this 1036 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 1: this group of people that are like at the top, 1037 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, and and they're they're they're the ones given 1038 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 1: the orders. I mean, they're the one saying like this 1039 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: is how it's good that that gets people riled up, 1040 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 1: and they no. No, Usually, conspiracies are just much more complicated, 1041 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: are much more complicated then they have to be. And 1042 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: that's because they're not accurate, right, That's why conspiracies become 1043 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: so ornate. But they're interesting and so they draw attention 1044 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: for people. I don't have any conspiracy to offer up 1045 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: here about what's going on on Vegas, because nothing makes 1046 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: sense to me. But I also don't have answers for you. 1047 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: I don't have answers about the motive of the shooter. 1048 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't have answers about how you know, the timeline. 1049 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,479 Speaker 1: I think we've worked out a little bit, but still 1050 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 1: the motive here, we don't have it. And I was 1051 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 1: saying to you the first week of the shooting. I 1052 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: just want to note this, I was saying the first 1053 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: week that that shooting had happened, that I'm not sure 1054 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: we're ever going to find out based on the the 1055 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: almost unfathomable precision and planning and the meticulous nature of 1056 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: what that guy Paddock did to engage in mass murder. 1057 01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: It just doesn't line up with what we see in 1058 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: these case is in the past. And if you're gonna 1059 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: if there was a political motive, if you do something 1060 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 1: for a political motive, you want people to know. And 1061 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 1: if you're that politicized, you tend to leave a trail 1062 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: of your politics, and we don't. We still just don't 1063 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,919 Speaker 1: have it. Now. Another a lot of folks are out there, Oh, 1064 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, my law enforcement sources say, you know, it's 1065 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 1: just a matter of hours before the equivalent of the 1066 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, the the handwritten note that explains it all 1067 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: is revealed. They've got it. You know, people say stuff 1068 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: like that, whether they're saying it in good faith or 1069 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 1: they just want to be on on TV or on 1070 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: radio and have something to say. I can't tell you, 1071 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: but I was telling you right away, I don't think 1072 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 1: that this is I don't see how we get to 1073 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 1: a clear answer here, because if there was a clear answer, 1074 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: we would probably know. And right now that's looking pretty 1075 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: pretty accurate. And if it changes. I'll update you as 1076 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: soon as I can. But I'm still sitting around waiting. 1077 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a part of this world anymore 1078 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 1: on the investigative or analytics side. I'm still waiting to 1079 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 1: hear something about loss Vegas on the motive and about 1080 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: this shooter that all that brings it all together. So 1081 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: it makes sense. I just I'm not there yet. Um, 1082 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: And we're not there yet. No no one knows, I 1083 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 1: mean no one. No one knows unless law enforces holding 1084 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 1: stuff back. But there's no criminal trial here that we 1085 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: know of. I mean, the shooters debt, So why would 1086 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: law enforce and be holding out on us? That makes 1087 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 1: no sense either. So there's just some there's some question 1088 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 1: marks that are are lingering. Um. And I wanted to 1089 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: note that now I told you we talked about Hillary 1090 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 1: and the corruption and and all the and the Russia stuff. 1091 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 1: Why don't I take this opportunity to we can reset, 1092 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: get back into neutral here and go to a quick 1093 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: break so we can all take a little breather here 1094 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 1: from some of our wonderful sponsors. We come back, we'll 1095 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: dive into this reporting on Hillary. Here's the here's the 1096 01:04:53,800 --> 01:05:00,080 Speaker 1: short version of it. Did. The FBI uncovered Russian bribery 1097 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: and meddling and all kinds of stuff going on before 1098 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 1: the Obama administration approved the controversial uranium deal with Moscow. 1099 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 1: By the way, who was the Secretary of State during 1100 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: all that? Oh that's right, Hillary, she was a secretary 1101 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 1: of State. But what happened was, Oh, we'll find out 1102 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 1: what happened Hillary. No, you won't. Yes I will, Yes, 1103 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: I will. We're gonna look into what happened with Hillary here, 1104 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 1: all right. I promised you Hillary time. You did? You 1105 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 1: promised I promised you Hillary time. And so that now 1106 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna get and now we're gonna get into it. 1107 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I really, I really am now just just taking this 1108 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 1: into like a like a parrot sound, but it's really 1109 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: if you really listen closely, it sounds like Hillary. Don't 1110 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 1: don't think that I'm just making a parody with a parrot. 1111 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 1: I'll show myself out, all right. FBI uncovered Russian bribery 1112 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow. 1113 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 1: It's on the Hill dot Com seventy eight thousand shares 1114 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 1: and counting on social media, so some people definitely read 1115 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 1: this one and let me give you some of the 1116 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,240 Speaker 1: some of the broad strokes. There's a lot of detail here, 1117 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 1: and it's good to have the details out there. It's 1118 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 1: good reporting from it's great reporter from John Solomon and 1119 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 1: Allison Span But, uh, you just need to know the 1120 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 1: broad strokes to understand why this matters so much. But 1121 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 1: let me get walk you through this a little bit. Quote. 1122 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 1: Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in giving 1123 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,720 Speaker 1: Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the 1124 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 1: FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials 1125 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 1: were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion, and money laundering designed 1126 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 1: to grow Vladimir Putin's atomic energy business inside the United States. 1127 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: Federal agents used a confidential US witness working inside the 1128 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 1: Russian nuclear industry to gather ex densive financial records, make 1129 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 1: secret recordings that intercept emails as early as two thousand 1130 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 1: and nine that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium 1131 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 1: trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks and violation of the 1132 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 1: Ford Corrupt Practices Act Practices Act, according to the FBI 1133 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: and court documents. Uh, and it's just there's a lot 1134 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: more detail here, but let me just skip to some 1135 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: of the parts you're gonna need to know. Rather than 1136 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 1: bring immediate charges in the d J continued investigating the 1137 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 1: matter for nearly four years, essentially leaving the American public 1138 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 1: and Congress in the dark about nuclear Russian nuclear corruption 1139 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 1: on US soil during a period when the Obama administration 1140 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 1: made two major decisions benefiting Putin's commercial nuclear ambitions, um 1141 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 1: and the And then you get into the Clinton aspect 1142 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: of all this stuff here in just a second. But first, okay, 1143 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 1: so there's this big investigation going on. FBI is looking 1144 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 1: into it. Court documents can be consulted to give further 1145 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: further proof of all this that the Russians are playing 1146 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 1: dirty in the uranium sector and the government knows about this, 1147 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,280 Speaker 1: but the government doesn't do anything for four years. Meanwhile, 1148 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: now we get into some other stuff here, right, So 1149 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 1: the Aby administrations decided, no, no no, we're not gonna We're 1150 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 1: not gonna go forward with these prosecutions. We're not gonna 1151 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 1: raise the alarm. Not keep in mind, what have we 1152 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: heard about all Russia corruption and and meddling in the election. Oh, 1153 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: there should have been more done, That should have been 1154 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 1: more done. What about before? Right, this is Russian meddling, 1155 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 1: and all of our stuff is not new online in person, 1156 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 1: old school, new school, up down and all around the place. 1157 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 1: The Russians are meddling right there, doing whatever they can 1158 01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 1: not new, going back to the KGB era, going back 1159 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 1: to UH compromise at the Provocatzia, Provocatzia and all these 1160 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 1: other things that the KGB, you know, provocations and compromising 1161 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,600 Speaker 1: and all the things that KGB used to do. Maskova, 1162 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,559 Speaker 1: you know, i'd like the fake on Russian accent when 1163 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 1: I say these words. And then you get Hillary in 1164 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 1: on all this, and you start to wonder. It's it's 1165 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,559 Speaker 1: kind of interesting, isn't it that while this is all 1166 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 1: going on, and this was written about in UH in 1167 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,639 Speaker 1: Clinton cash, all right, but there's all this shady Russian 1168 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 1: business happening, and then you find out that, you know, 1169 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: Hillary and the Clinton Foundation, there's all this money that's 1170 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: coming into them too, And you just have to wonder, 1171 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,600 Speaker 1: given the sensitivity that should have been raised at the 1172 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 1: time about Russia in our uranium sector, that Hillary as 1173 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 1: Secretary of State allowed the Russians to purchase this large 1174 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 1: steak in American an American uranium company. You would think, 1175 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,600 Speaker 1: you would think might get a little more attention to 1176 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 1: raise some long to know how to be written about 1177 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: by Peter Schweitzer for anyone to even noticed this right quote. 1178 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,040 Speaker 1: The Obama Administration's decision to approve Raza Tom's purchase of 1179 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 1: Uranium one. Uranium one is the U S company has 1180 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 1: been a source of political controversy since that's when conservative 1181 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: author Peter Schweitzer and The New York Times documented how 1182 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in Russian 1183 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 1: speaking fees and his charitable foundation collected millions in donations 1184 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 1: from parties interested in the deal while Hillary Clinton presided 1185 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 1: on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. 1186 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 1: The Obama administration and the Clinton's defended their actions at 1187 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,679 Speaker 1: the time, insisting there was no evidence that any Russians 1188 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: or donors engaged in wrongdoing and there was no national 1189 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,639 Speaker 1: security reason for any member of the committee to oppose 1190 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 1: Iranium one deal. But FBI, Energy Department and court documents 1191 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 1: reviewed by The Hill show the FBI in fact had 1192 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 1: gathered substantial evidence well before the committee's decision that Vadium Mercurian, 1193 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 1: the main Russian overseeing Putin's nuclear expansion inside the United 1194 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 1: States was engaged in wrongdoing starting in two thousand and nine. Okay, So, 1195 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 1: like I said, there's a lot I know, there's a 1196 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 1: lot of detail, a lot of names and guy's name, 1197 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 1: like you know what was this guy? Vladimir and Vadim 1198 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:18,479 Speaker 1: and you know this and that and god, I've gotta stop. 1199 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: My Russian keeps keeps floating into my Transylvanian because you know, 1200 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 1: we got DRACTA coming up in a few weeks. Uh. 1201 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 1: But here's what, here's what you this is already known, 1202 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 1: but it just gives you more details about this. And 1203 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,160 Speaker 1: the Obama administration, the d o Janity administration sat on this, 1204 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,680 Speaker 1: didn't want to do much about it. And it just 1205 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,760 Speaker 1: goes to show that they made a political decision about 1206 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,680 Speaker 1: Russian medaling during the election, and the political decision was, look, 1207 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 1: Hilary is gonna win anyway. You know, this is not 1208 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: a big deal. Who cares? And that's the truth. It's 1209 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 1: not a big deal. Who cares? Or if you want 1210 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 1: to look into it, fine, but you know, looking into 1211 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 1: the same way you look into like baseball and steroids 1212 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: or something, right, I mean, Congress gets all sanctimonious and 1213 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 1: nobody really cares. Uh, but no, no, Now they tell 1214 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,640 Speaker 1: us that this is a national security threat. Now they 1215 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 1: tell us that the Russians are like lurking in every 1216 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 1: corner and under every bed, and we've got to be 1217 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 1: terrified of what Russia is gonna do next. And the 1218 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,000 Speaker 1: Russians aren't finished with us, and the Russians, yeah, we 1219 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 1: have there are opposition governments around the world. To be 1220 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 1: sure their enemy governments, enemy regimes around the world. But 1221 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 1: to overstate the threat from Russia for purely political reasons, 1222 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 1: right as an excuse for Hillary's loss to Donald Trump. 1223 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,640 Speaker 1: It's just pathetic. But they're not going to stop. And 1224 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 1: when you look at how blatant the corruption was with 1225 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 1: the Clinton Foundation and Hillary and the conflicts of interest there, 1226 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,880 Speaker 1: This is why the punches that the media try to 1227 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 1: land on this administration just don't work. This is why 1228 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 1: they keep coming. They keep coming to the American people 1229 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,800 Speaker 1: and saying, oh, he's gone too far. Now, oh this 1230 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 1: latest thing he said. Now it's all over for Trump. 1231 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 1: And it's not because we're paying attention. We see and 1232 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't even get I didn't even get to talk 1233 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,719 Speaker 1: about how the Department of Justice, or rather James Comey, 1234 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 1: how did the FBI was writing and this was on 1235 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,519 Speaker 1: this was courtesy of Fox News dot Com yesterday, was 1236 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 1: writing memos two show before Hillary was even interviewed that 1237 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 1: the email thing was going nowhere. That's yeah, that's right. 1238 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 1: A different justice system for the Clintons. At least they 1239 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 1: thought that's what they had now with Trump in office, though, 1240 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:36,560 Speaker 1: I think things have changed because they've really become just obstructionists. 1241 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: They have no good policies, and frankly, they're not good politicians, 1242 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: but they are very good obstructionists and that's what they 1243 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,640 Speaker 1: do well. Obstruct Uh. The number of nominees that I 1244 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 1: have approved by the Democrats are about half of what 1245 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: President Obama had. And when you look at that and 1246 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 1: you look at judicial appointments, look how slow that's going. 1247 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 1: I'll have a hundred and forty five ultimately, which is 1248 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 1: tremendous number, will have seventeen Court of Appeals supportments. But 1249 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: they're not getting approved. They're being slow walked by Schulber 1250 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:14,600 Speaker 1: and the group of Democrats that really it's it's really disgraceful. 1251 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 1: Even people that they know they're going to approve, they 1252 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 1: take it right out to the end. They use every 1253 01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 1: single minute, and I think it's a very disgraceful situation. There. 1254 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,559 Speaker 1: We have President Trump who is not mincing words when 1255 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,720 Speaker 1: it comes to the Democrats, calling them obstructionists, particularly on 1256 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,599 Speaker 1: the issue of the judiciary, which a lot of folks 1257 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 1: on the left no is one of the best places. 1258 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 1: It probably is the single best option for the hashtag resistance. 1259 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,759 Speaker 1: But Trump was also talking earlier day about how he's 1260 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,800 Speaker 1: got a healthcare bill that he likes, or at least 1261 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 1: he's saying he likes it as of now, that would 1262 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,880 Speaker 1: be bipartisan in nature. So so what is going on here? 1263 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,679 Speaker 1: He was buddy buddy with McConnell earlier in the week. 1264 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Now he's pushing for by partisan healthcare reform. What is 1265 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,000 Speaker 1: really happening To help us way through some of this? 1266 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 1: We have Sarah Westwood on the line. She is the 1267 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 1: Washington Examiners White House correspondent. Sarah, great to have you, 1268 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Okay, Sarah, Let's let's start with 1269 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 1: the basics here. What is going on? One moment Trump 1270 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 1: saying the Democrats are obstruction is the next it feels 1271 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 1: like he's telling us that Chuck and Nancy have some 1272 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:29,400 Speaker 1: good ideas for shoring up the healthcare exchanges, while clearly 1273 01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:33,760 Speaker 1: President Trump is trying to lay some defensive groundwork for 1274 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 1: his decision to withhold those cost sharing reduction payments, which 1275 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 1: UM analysts believe we're helping to prop up the Obamacare exchanges. 1276 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,639 Speaker 1: And so by withholding those and then also by doing 1277 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 1: his executive order that he did last week which opened 1278 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,759 Speaker 1: up the possibility of selling insurance plans over state lines, 1279 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,439 Speaker 1: president Trump is taking some actions that are undermining the 1280 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,920 Speaker 1: integrity of the Obamacare system. It was already weak, and 1281 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 1: this is only going to weaken it. So President Trump 1282 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,920 Speaker 1: has suggested that Republicans would be open to working with Democrats, 1283 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 1: but that's clearly not a viable possibility. Democrats and Republicans 1284 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:15,360 Speaker 1: are so far apart on healthcare. They've uh, Democrats are pursuing, 1285 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, in some cases, a single payer system, while 1286 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: Republicans are pursuing something that block grants medicate. So they 1287 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 1: couldn't be further apart on healthcare. And really this is 1288 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,720 Speaker 1: a tool that both sides use sometimes to call for 1289 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 1: a bipartisan solution, and it's an effort to highlight the 1290 01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 1: other side's unwillingness to work together. You have Senator Senator 1291 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 1: Truck Schumer saying that the latest solution to show up 1292 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,240 Speaker 1: the exchanges is a pretty good idea. You got Senator 1293 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 1: Patty Murray saying Democrats Republicans working together, that's a that's 1294 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 1: a good thing, something we should all feel like it 1295 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,320 Speaker 1: is to be applauded. And yet I'm just wondering, is 1296 01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,400 Speaker 1: this like when a little bit earlier, we had Trump, 1297 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,960 Speaker 1: what was it a few weeks ago, Trump saying that 1298 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 1: there was a deal or there was reporting at least 1299 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,880 Speaker 1: of a deal on immigration with Chuck and Nancy, and 1300 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,559 Speaker 1: now we're told that's fallen apart. Do you think that 1301 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 1: there's a chance that Trump is going to just change 1302 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 1: his mind on this? By it's not really a bipartisan 1303 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,640 Speaker 1: reform on health here, it's just a quick fix or 1304 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 1: a two year fix. There's always a possibility that President 1305 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,440 Speaker 1: Trump will change his mind on anything, and certainly with immigration, 1306 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 1: we saw that's exactly what happened in his conversation with 1307 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 1: the Democratic congressional leaders. He seemed to indicate that the 1308 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,639 Speaker 1: wall wasn't going to be part of what he pushed 1309 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,560 Speaker 1: for in any package that extended protection to the Dreamers 1310 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 1: to to legislate the Dhaka order that he's rescinding next year. 1311 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 1: But uh, Truck and Nancy came out ahead of the 1312 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:53,200 Speaker 1: White House announcing that the President Trump wasn't going to 1313 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,920 Speaker 1: pursue the wall in a way that made it look 1314 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 1: like they've gotten some kind of concession. The White House 1315 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,439 Speaker 1: might have made mistake by letting Chuck and Nancy set 1316 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,479 Speaker 1: the tone for what the agreement was going to look like. 1317 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 1: And so what you saw was President Trump Saul pulled 1318 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: back a little bit from that and say, uh, well, 1319 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: these are all of the border security and interior security 1320 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 1: measures that we're going to push for as part of 1321 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,760 Speaker 1: the deal. Those included like to verify more ICE employees 1322 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 1: and resources, and that put Democrats back on defense. Dates 1323 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 1: then felt the need to backtrack from the deal. So 1324 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 1: this is a lot of game woman trip, a lot 1325 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 1: of signaling to supporters about who's going to fight for what. 1326 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,400 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, though, uh, these these 1327 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 1: deals are all within the reach of Congress. They just 1328 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,439 Speaker 1: have to be willing to let the other side maybe 1329 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 1: win a symbolic victory. Now and then we're speaking to 1330 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 1: Sarah Westwood, who is the Washington Examiners. White House corresponded, Uh, 1331 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,559 Speaker 1: speaking to the White House, Sarah, what can you tell 1332 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,640 Speaker 1: us about as much as anyone can know? What can 1333 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 1: you tell us about the relationship between Senate Majority Leader 1334 01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell and President Donald Trump. It seems like it's 1335 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,720 Speaker 1: been on a bit of a roller coaster lately. It 1336 01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,680 Speaker 1: certainly has. But what we're hearing from our sources is 1337 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,000 Speaker 1: that it was President Trump the White House who initiated 1338 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 1: that meeting, not the Senate Majority Leader. There are some 1339 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,839 Speaker 1: who think it's a recognition on the part of Trump 1340 01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 1: that he will need Senate Republicans to pass his legislative 1341 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 1: agenda items, particularly tax form, and that antagonizing McConnell is 1342 01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,400 Speaker 1: not going to be the way to get there. There 1343 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:32,240 Speaker 1: are some who think that President Trump is just laying 1344 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 1: the groundwork to be able to say a little bit 1345 01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 1: down the line that he did everything he could, that 1346 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,719 Speaker 1: he looked, I did try to make nice with McConnell, 1347 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 1: and look where it got us. That he's sort of 1348 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 1: buying himself that credibility down the line. Uh, it was 1349 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 1: just sort of remarkable to see President Trump go from 1350 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 1: trading barbs with McConnell on Twitter to shaking his hand 1351 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 1: and clapping his back in front of reporters in the 1352 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:57,720 Speaker 1: Rose Garden yesterday, and the relationship between the presidents and 1353 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,360 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Tillers in which I'm seeing being there's 1354 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 1: additional reporting today to say that still some some tension 1355 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 1: there or is that not really verified based on what 1356 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 1: you're hearing from your sources. Well, remote, we're hearing that 1357 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 1: the tension has been there for a long time, not 1358 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:18,160 Speaker 1: necessarily because of either side doing anything wrong, but because 1359 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 1: Tillerson and Trump just may not be a good fit 1360 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:25,759 Speaker 1: professionally personally, that they have totally different styles, totally different 1361 01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 1: approaches to the job. That President Trump maybe thought he 1362 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,559 Speaker 1: was going to be hiring a contemporary, someone that he 1363 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 1: could interact with in a friendly way because Rex Tillerson 1364 01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 1: came from the corporate world. But Tillerson was actually much 1365 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,800 Speaker 1: more cautious and careful then President Trump might have thought. 1366 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,040 Speaker 1: And so they don't necessarily get along that well on 1367 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,879 Speaker 1: a personal level, and that's really colored their professional relationship 1368 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,799 Speaker 1: as well. Um, I you know, I have no idea 1369 01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 1: whether Tillerson actually called President Trump a moron, but those 1370 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,639 Speaker 1: stories are just the symptom of the fact that they're working. 1371 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,840 Speaker 1: Relationships has been complicated over the past few months. And 1372 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 1: I saw some reporting about Senator Tom Cotton. Is that 1373 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,280 Speaker 1: is that confirmed yet or is that just in the 1374 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,880 Speaker 1: rumor mill? Still, Well, it's still in the rumor mill, 1375 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:15,120 Speaker 1: but it's certainly believable because President Trump clearly likes Senator 1376 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,920 Speaker 1: Tom Cotton and trust his council. Remember that just days 1377 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 1: before President Trump gave that big speech about his new 1378 01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,800 Speaker 1: approach to the Iran nuclear deal, he had Cotton into 1379 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,080 Speaker 1: the White House for a one on one meeting. That 1380 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,959 Speaker 1: the White House has been in contact with Cotton, relying 1381 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,000 Speaker 1: on his advice as they proceeded with this new Uran policy. 1382 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,280 Speaker 1: So Cotton is someone President Trump clearly trust and likes, 1383 01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 1: has praised in the past. That wouldn't be surprising them 1384 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 1: that he would consider placing Cotton somewhere in the administration. 1385 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 1: Should have vacancy open up. Is there going to be 1386 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:52,280 Speaker 1: some action from this Republican Congress on legislation by the 1387 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 1: end of the year you think, or is this just 1388 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,599 Speaker 1: going to be a conversation, whether it's about taxes, healthcare 1389 01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 1: that just keeps getting pushed out. Well, it's the timeline 1390 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 1: that the White House is for doing for TAXICR in particular, 1391 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:09,160 Speaker 1: it's really ambitious. Initially, Gary Cone had said they wanted 1392 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,639 Speaker 1: to see tax reform get through the House by October 1393 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,479 Speaker 1: the Senate by November. That's just not looking likely. There's 1394 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,360 Speaker 1: only two weeks left in October, and Republicans are still 1395 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,920 Speaker 1: haggling over the broad strokes of tax reform and whether 1396 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 1: it should add to the deficits or not, just big 1397 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,559 Speaker 1: conceptual questions, let alone hammering out the nitty gritty of 1398 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,600 Speaker 1: what kind of language would pass the House by the 1399 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,520 Speaker 1: end of the month. So it's a really ambitious timeline. 1400 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,760 Speaker 1: And uh, the more it drags on, there's only a 1401 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,799 Speaker 1: couple of dozen legislative working days left on the calendar, 1402 01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,200 Speaker 1: the more unlikely it looks that we'll see it this year, 1403 01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 1: all right. Sarah Westwood, White House correspondent for the Washington Examder. Sarah, 1404 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,760 Speaker 1: great to have you, thanks for joining us, Thanks for 1405 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,439 Speaker 1: having me. Just a note about the obstruction as some 1406 01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,679 Speaker 1: point on the judiciary and what's going on there with Trump. 1407 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is true that the Democrats are doing 1408 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:07,000 Speaker 1: absolutely everything in their power to try and make it, 1409 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,040 Speaker 1: just make it as difficult as possible, as prolonged as 1410 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 1: possible to get Trump's nominees to the bench. This is 1411 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,479 Speaker 1: one of the places where I think he's shown the 1412 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:23,599 Speaker 1: greatest support from conservatives. So he's getting the most support 1413 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,000 Speaker 1: from conservatives is on putting people. Uh course, it's the 1414 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,760 Speaker 1: most visible manifestation of this. The Supreme Court, but the 1415 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:36,639 Speaker 1: federal bench as well and appellate courts. The Obama administration's 1416 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 1: legacy is largely a judicial one. Just keep that in mind. 1417 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't just mean the corruption within the do o 1418 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 1: J because of all the leftist bureaucrats that clearly infiltrated it, 1419 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,240 Speaker 1: but I mean the actual judiciary, like the bench judges. 1420 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:57,519 Speaker 1: Uh we're talking about a large number of the current 1421 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:04,120 Speaker 1: currently in lace federal judges were appointed by Obama. And 1422 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,720 Speaker 1: remember that it was Harry Reid who got rid of 1423 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: the filibuster for lower level meeting, non Supreme Court federal judges, 1424 01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 1: and that meant that they could just pack them with 1425 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 1: devoted leftists, and they did. I think I should probably 1426 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,559 Speaker 1: check my statistic, but usually when I say this, i'm right, 1427 01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm just being cautious. If I'm wrong, I'll correct it. 1428 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,840 Speaker 1: I think almost thirty percent in the let's say approximately 1429 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 1: of the UH federal bench right now is comprised of 1430 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 1: Obama appointees. Think about that, ish, A lot of judges 1431 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 1: are far left wing Obama picks, and that's something that 1432 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,720 Speaker 1: stays with us unless we get rid of some of 1433 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 1: those judges. And I think that you're seeing the need 1434 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,360 Speaker 1: for that with what's going on with this judge out 1435 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,120 Speaker 1: in in Hawaii. I think that people need to really 1436 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:02,519 Speaker 1: take seriously the removal of office, removal from office of 1437 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,400 Speaker 1: judges who are abusing their power. Why don't we talk 1438 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,840 Speaker 1: about that? Why don't I get into why I'm thinking 1439 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,320 Speaker 1: about the judiciary so much today? You got this judge 1440 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 1: out in Hawaii who is stopping Trump's third iteration of 1441 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,439 Speaker 1: the so called travel band or is I like to 1442 01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 1: put it the temporary restriction or temporary enhancement on travel security. 1443 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:32,320 Speaker 1: He's holding the line for America. Buck Sexton his back 1444 01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 1: hut Baltimore addition today, excited to be hanging out here, 1445 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,719 Speaker 1: like I said the first time, So Baltimore is uh 1446 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,000 Speaker 1: is It is a nice town. I like it here. 1447 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,479 Speaker 1: You know, some good restaurants, there's some stuff to do. 1448 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it, but I wanted to get into a 1449 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:57,720 Speaker 1: little bit of the continued fallout over the Harvey Weinstein situation. 1450 01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:04,120 Speaker 1: Drudge has a big headline Harvey wood Cracking, and there's 1451 01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 1: just more and more of this stuff coming out, and 1452 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think that it's it's gonna be coming 1453 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:16,040 Speaker 1: out for quite some time because and this hasn't been 1454 01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,080 Speaker 1: spoken about by that many people, I think yet, and 1455 01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:24,559 Speaker 1: that's that there's something about the entertainment industry that is 1456 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:31,800 Speaker 1: particularly and has been particularly open to this kind of 1457 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,160 Speaker 1: exploitation for a long time. And it's because you have 1458 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:41,599 Speaker 1: individuals who are largely in terms of their careers, left 1459 01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,400 Speaker 1: at the whim of completely well. They are left to 1460 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:49,920 Speaker 1: completely subjective decision making. There's not much that you can 1461 01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,000 Speaker 1: do or say when you don't get the part in 1462 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:56,000 Speaker 1: a movie. It's just people in power deciding whether you 1463 01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,679 Speaker 1: are a success or not. And that means that the 1464 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,120 Speaker 1: opportunity for abuse of power. And this is separate from 1465 01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,280 Speaker 1: the specifics of all the sexual assault allegations that are 1466 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,320 Speaker 1: out there, but I just mean as a general concept, 1467 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:14,799 Speaker 1: Hollywood and the media and the entertainment industry are are 1468 01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 1: a profession where the power imbalance is tremendous between those 1469 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,000 Speaker 1: who have it and those who do not, and the 1470 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 1: difference is stark. You know, let let me kind of. 1471 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 1: And this is also true, I should note in the 1472 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,000 Speaker 1: in the news industry, particularly the TV news side, and 1473 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 1: you've also seen plenty of problems coming from the TV 1474 01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:39,880 Speaker 1: news industry with regard to harassment recently. But if you 1475 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:45,519 Speaker 1: are let's say a if you're a lawyer, if you 1476 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 1: are working in a in a small business and you 1477 01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 1: have a role and that's what you do, you have 1478 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:56,200 Speaker 1: established something on your resume. You know that you have 1479 01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,280 Speaker 1: a company that probably there's some either an HR department 1480 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:03,720 Speaker 1: or at least some basic h r H policies that 1481 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,160 Speaker 1: are in place. There's some structure for what's going on, 1482 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 1: and there are other people, and there's transparent. Look I'm 1483 01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 1: speaking in generalities here, but there's other people around you, 1484 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:17,320 Speaker 1: and there's some sense of expectations for conduct in the workplace. 1485 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,519 Speaker 1: Now that sexual harassment happens, but the laws on the 1486 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 1: books that have been in the books for a long 1487 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:26,760 Speaker 1: time mean that at a company, at a corporation that is, 1488 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, making the money that is profitable, the opportunities 1489 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:37,519 Speaker 1: to harass people always come with the possibility of a 1490 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,599 Speaker 1: major UH settlement of some kind right that you can 1491 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:46,000 Speaker 1: be sued, that there can be redress for people who 1492 01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 1: are harassed or sexually harassed in your standard American court. 1493 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 1: Now that's not to say that harassment doesn't exist. I 1494 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,800 Speaker 1: know that the me too hashtag, which is about people 1495 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,920 Speaker 1: that have been sexually assaulted or harassed, has been mega 1496 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,160 Speaker 1: trending on Twitter. But I'm just trying to point out 1497 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:07,960 Speaker 1: that the entertainment industry specifically is going to be and 1498 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:12,200 Speaker 1: has been, a subject to people abusing their power in 1499 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,559 Speaker 1: this way because there really isn't much of a of 1500 01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,519 Speaker 1: a structure and place for a lot of how this works. 1501 01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:23,000 Speaker 1: There really isn't a an established best practices. There's no 1502 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 1: corporate culture in Holly Well. I guess you could argue 1503 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,640 Speaker 1: the corporate culture is the casting couch mentality. It is 1504 01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,240 Speaker 1: people doing anything to get ahead. But it's it's worse 1505 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,519 Speaker 1: in Hollywood then it would be, and and then I 1506 01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,519 Speaker 1: believe it's worse in Hollywood than it is in in 1507 01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:41,920 Speaker 1: almost any other industry, certainly in any other large industry. 1508 01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:48,000 Speaker 1: And Hollywood has been uniquely susceptible to abuse of power 1509 01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,639 Speaker 1: and harassment for a long time. What I think has 1510 01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:55,880 Speaker 1: caused the explosion of allegations here, or or rather the 1511 01:29:55,880 --> 01:30:00,080 Speaker 1: the outrage in response to the explosion allegations, is that 1512 01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:05,360 Speaker 1: this stuff was so egregious and was suppressed for so long. 1513 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 1: I believe that we all figured that there was that 1514 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:14,440 Speaker 1: there was behavior similar to this going on in Hollywood, 1515 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,720 Speaker 1: and that most people just ignored it. They've got their 1516 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,840 Speaker 1: own things to think about, and they didn't you know 1517 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,960 Speaker 1: what I mean similar to I mean sexual harassment comments 1518 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,800 Speaker 1: to women, uh quid pro quo for movie roles, that 1519 01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,080 Speaker 1: that casting couch behavior. I think people have recognized for 1520 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,360 Speaker 1: a long time that that was going on, but we 1521 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,360 Speaker 1: just didn't know the specifics of it. Now that we 1522 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:41,080 Speaker 1: know the specifics and know that it's not only an 1523 01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:46,439 Speaker 1: issue of what would be civil litigation, right, a suit 1524 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:50,760 Speaker 1: that could go to court that's monetary damages, but criminal allegations. 1525 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:56,000 Speaker 1: That's where the suppression of this goes, well beyond just well, 1526 01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:58,479 Speaker 1: you know, there was a corporate culture, or there wasn't 1527 01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,479 Speaker 1: a corporate culture in Hollywood. There was a culture of 1528 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,080 Speaker 1: the powerful praying on the powerless, and you know that 1529 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:11,759 Speaker 1: this is now into what feels like a criminal conspiracy, 1530 01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:16,200 Speaker 1: and you're starting to see the beginnings of co conspirator 1531 01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,080 Speaker 1: people talking about co conspirators with Weinstein. It's gone beyond 1532 01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:24,800 Speaker 1: just enablers, because this guy was a predator. This was 1533 01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:29,760 Speaker 1: somebody who was dangerous to women and praying upon them 1534 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,360 Speaker 1: in criminal ways, at least allegedly, right, nothing, nothing has 1535 01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,320 Speaker 1: been proven yet in a court of law. This is 1536 01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,360 Speaker 1: why we say allegedly it's a formality, but one that 1537 01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:42,479 Speaker 1: is in place. But the allegations of a criminal nature 1538 01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,479 Speaker 1: he denies. Of a civil suit nature he accepts, and 1539 01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,639 Speaker 1: that's why he's gone to the rehab facility. But this 1540 01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,840 Speaker 1: has gotten worse with each passing day. I don't think 1541 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,200 Speaker 1: we've seen the worst of it yet, and you're going 1542 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,200 Speaker 1: to see that there's been a transition from this was 1543 01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:03,640 Speaker 1: a civil suit kind of complaint originally to know this 1544 01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:07,599 Speaker 1: is now possible criminal charges. And now I'm wondering if 1545 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:11,160 Speaker 1: there's going to be more fallout for those around Harvey 1546 01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,960 Speaker 1: Weinstein for being co conspirators in this, for being enablers 1547 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,439 Speaker 1: in this. That's where I think this may be going next. 1548 01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:24,599 Speaker 1: M Well, everybody, it's been fun. I'm actually doing as 1549 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:29,280 Speaker 1: I said that the show today from Baltimore, which is 1550 01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,559 Speaker 1: my first time in Baltimore. I've done something of a 1551 01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:37,160 Speaker 1: of a coastal tour in the last few days. I 1552 01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:41,160 Speaker 1: went back to my old stomping ground in Washington, d C. 1553 01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,799 Speaker 1: Which I will tell you, I know it's a swamp, 1554 01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,400 Speaker 1: but it is in its own way pretty charming and 1555 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:53,920 Speaker 1: alluring swamp. The food in d C has gotten really good. 1556 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,800 Speaker 1: I moved there in two thousand and five, and I 1557 01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:02,240 Speaker 1: think DC has every year gotten better. So I know 1558 01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:05,439 Speaker 1: that all things political and inside the Bellway we see 1559 01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,680 Speaker 1: as being problematic, and there's and that's all true, right 1560 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,479 Speaker 1: that the wealthiest or three of the ten, or four 1561 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:13,920 Speaker 1: of the ten, might even be six of the ten. 1562 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,479 Speaker 1: I forget now several of the wealthiest counties in the 1563 01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:22,360 Speaker 1: country are the ones immediately ringing d C. That shouldn't 1564 01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,040 Speaker 1: be the case. It should not be feeding from the 1565 01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,080 Speaker 1: trough of the federal government. But that's what happens. But 1566 01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:29,680 Speaker 1: if you're just talking about a place to visit, I 1567 01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,200 Speaker 1: gotta say d C is pretty great. I was in 1568 01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,759 Speaker 1: Georgetown for a little bit. I met my little brother 1569 01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:39,400 Speaker 1: who just happened to randomly be in town on on business, 1570 01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:41,760 Speaker 1: and we we didn't even realize we're going to be 1571 01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,760 Speaker 1: in town the same time until I told him I 1572 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,639 Speaker 1: was going to be on Fox and had a lot 1573 01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:50,320 Speaker 1: of fun yesterday on the Brett Bear panel, but we 1574 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,280 Speaker 1: met up afterwards one of our old haunts. I was 1575 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,519 Speaker 1: a young c I a officer in d C living 1576 01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,680 Speaker 1: in Georgetown, and my little brother was a student at 1577 01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,800 Speaker 1: George Town University. So even when I was outside of 1578 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,000 Speaker 1: New York City, my hometown, I had family nearby when 1579 01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,320 Speaker 1: we used to hang out all the time, and it 1580 01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,640 Speaker 1: was it was great, and it was nice to be 1581 01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,000 Speaker 1: back in town and to spend some time in my 1582 01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,519 Speaker 1: old my old stomping ground, and also with a little 1583 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,759 Speaker 1: bro who's just the greatest guy anybody could could ever imagine. 1584 01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:27,040 Speaker 1: So I wanted to also, uh take some time today 1585 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:31,519 Speaker 1: to get into the latest on Team Buck Speaks, because 1586 01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,640 Speaker 1: this has become one of my one of my favorite 1587 01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,640 Speaker 1: parts of of the show. Actually, it's a lot of 1588 01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:40,080 Speaker 1: fun to be able to read off to all of 1589 01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:43,920 Speaker 1: you what you're saying, especially because we have such a 1590 01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,960 Speaker 1: large podcast audience. And also I know some of you 1591 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,880 Speaker 1: listen to the show either on the I Heart radio 1592 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,640 Speaker 1: app or you listen on a little bit of a 1593 01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:57,120 Speaker 1: delay on your station. So for those of you who 1594 01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,640 Speaker 1: can't call in live, which is it's always great to 1595 01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,160 Speaker 1: have you with the live call ins. But for those 1596 01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,320 Speaker 1: of you can't call it live. Facebook dot com slash 1597 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:08,040 Speaker 1: buck Sexton, the team and I Tyrone, Amy and me, 1598 01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,639 Speaker 1: we are going through those messages and we're taking all 1599 01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:17,200 Speaker 1: of your thoughts and advice into account, your criticism as well. Uh, 1600 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,720 Speaker 1: And it's a great way to have real connectivity with 1601 01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,639 Speaker 1: all of you listening. So however you listen to the show, 1602 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,519 Speaker 1: and if you're just a little shy about calling in, 1603 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:30,719 Speaker 1: although you couldn't have anyone better than than producer Amy 1604 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,720 Speaker 1: as the first person you're going to talk to, she will. 1605 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,880 Speaker 1: She'll make you feel right at home when you call in. 1606 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,599 Speaker 1: But if you would rather write, or if you want 1607 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,120 Speaker 1: to share a link, or there's a story that you 1608 01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,679 Speaker 1: think should be brought to the attention of the Freedom 1609 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,519 Speaker 1: Hut so that we can get involved in the discussion here, 1610 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,439 Speaker 1: or I can talk to my sources and try to 1611 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,479 Speaker 1: dig up more information on it. Facebook dot com slash 1612 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:56,360 Speaker 1: buck Sexton. So with that, uh, we have Mark writing 1613 01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 1: in doing great as usual on Brett Bear Killer Hair 1614 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:05,599 Speaker 1: bro always looking good, l O L. And then he writes, dang, 1615 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:10,360 Speaker 1: you're skinny now too, what's the secret? Looking younger and younger? 1616 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,000 Speaker 1: Always love your comments. You need to have your own 1617 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,320 Speaker 1: show on f n C. I think I'll tell them seriously, Well, Mark, 1618 01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,679 Speaker 1: you are far too nice. Thank you very much, hopefully 1619 01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:21,439 Speaker 1: I was having a good hair day yesterday on the 1620 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,960 Speaker 1: bread Bear panel. And in terms of dropping some LB's 1621 01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,160 Speaker 1: one is, you know, I can't be if if I'm 1622 01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a few years older than miss Molly, I 1623 01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,360 Speaker 1: can't be losing a step to be in uh dad 1624 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,840 Speaker 1: Bob just yet right, I've I've got to actually be 1625 01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,439 Speaker 1: a dad before I let the dad bod fully fully 1626 01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:43,639 Speaker 1: get embraced. And also, I just find the enemies are 1627 01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:46,280 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying I don't I don't enjoy both, 1628 01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,479 Speaker 1: but the enemies are sugar and alcohol everything else and 1629 01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:53,800 Speaker 1: sugar meaning also refined carbohydrates that your body breaks down 1630 01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,439 Speaker 1: quickly and in your blood. In your blood sugar reflects. Uh. 1631 01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,880 Speaker 1: It's as though you were you know, a cupcake, and 1632 01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:05,080 Speaker 1: or you know a piece of chocolate and a bagel. 1633 01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,680 Speaker 1: For all intents and purposes, you should think of them 1634 01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,000 Speaker 1: a gun of the same way. So although I think 1635 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,719 Speaker 1: dark chocolate is fantastic, as you know, yeah, sugar and chocolate, 1636 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean, whoops, No, chocolate's phenomenal. Sugar and alcohol are 1637 01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,800 Speaker 1: the enemy. If that's something that you want to make 1638 01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,280 Speaker 1: some changes to. Uh. David writes in hey buck, just 1639 01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,439 Speaker 1: listen to the Friday podcast. I will not give you 1640 01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:29,840 Speaker 1: a hard time about the pearl handled revolver remark because 1641 01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:33,240 Speaker 1: you corrected yourself. But on the subject of Friday, thank you. 1642 01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad I got so many I corrected it on air, 1643 01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,800 Speaker 1: and still people were writing again like how could you like, 1644 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know it wasn't it was Ivory. It 1645 01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:46,720 Speaker 1: wasn't pearl on patents, revolver or revolvers. Oh gosh, that 1646 01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,439 Speaker 1: I'm making another mistake. Apologies. But on the subject of 1647 01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:53,040 Speaker 1: Friday the thirteenth, my wife and I uh met on 1648 01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,080 Speaker 1: Friday the thirteenth, and we were married on on February 1649 01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,640 Speaker 1: thirteenth and have been married for almost thirty years. Superstition 1650 01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:04,280 Speaker 1: be d. D. Shields. High shout out to Ms Molly 1651 01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,120 Speaker 1: Welcome home, Chica. And by the way, my wife's name 1652 01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:10,400 Speaker 1: is Maria and she's a huge fan too. Well. David 1653 01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,960 Speaker 1: and Maria, congrats on your marital bliss and thank you 1654 01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:18,839 Speaker 1: very much for writing into the show. Shields High, Michael. 1655 01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:23,400 Speaker 1: Michael writes in Hey, Buck, Shields High from Texas. I 1656 01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,639 Speaker 1: was podcasting Friday Show. Just how to give a big 1657 01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:30,559 Speaker 1: thumbs up to the gratuitous greenskeeper Carl talking about all 1658 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,640 Speaker 1: the doctors offering their advice literally made me L O L. 1659 01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:38,519 Speaker 1: Thanks for the laugh, Shields High, buddy, Well Michael, glad 1660 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,519 Speaker 1: that it made you l O L. That's that's what 1661 01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,320 Speaker 1: we aim for sometimes here. It can't be all serious 1662 01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:47,320 Speaker 1: stuff all the time. Uh. Just this is from Ellen. 1663 01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,960 Speaker 1: Just listen a lot of Just listen to Friday Podcast 1664 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,200 Speaker 1: here today. I guess people are delayed over the weekend 1665 01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,080 Speaker 1: and they're right in on Monday. Just listen to Friday Podcast. 1666 01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,600 Speaker 1: Great show as usual. I'm with you on the Exorcist. 1667 01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:01,880 Speaker 1: I lived in d C for years and always avoided 1668 01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 1: that street when in Georgetown. Well, Ellen, I lived right 1669 01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,759 Speaker 1: down from that street and I walked past it every 1670 01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:12,639 Speaker 1: single day. I mean I drove past it, walked past 1671 01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,479 Speaker 1: it every day. To give you a sense of where 1672 01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:17,560 Speaker 1: I lived in Georgetown when I was down there, But 1673 01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:20,599 Speaker 1: that is to me still the scariest movie ever made. 1674 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,120 Speaker 1: I am an adult. I am not afraid of the dark. 1675 01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:25,599 Speaker 1: I have been in plenty of scary places around the world. 1676 01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,240 Speaker 1: I do not enjoy watching The Exorcist. It will not 1677 01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:31,719 Speaker 1: be on my list of movies for this Halloween. Although 1678 01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,599 Speaker 1: the real Dracula that's coming up on the Bucks Exton 1679 01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,280 Speaker 1: radio show in in a few weeks also known as 1680 01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:44,200 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with American Now So we have oho, sorry, 1681 01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 1: more people writing, lots more people writing in about the 1682 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:52,320 Speaker 1: pearl handled. Sorry they were they were not pearl handled. 1683 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,840 Speaker 1: I am not worthy. I am not worthy. They're not 1684 01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,040 Speaker 1: pearl handled. They were ivory handled. That patent Carrott. We 1685 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:03,000 Speaker 1: have established that, all right. David writes in with something serious. Here, Hey, Buck, 1686 01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,320 Speaker 1: here is the picture of the Vegas shooters sweet door 1687 01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:09,280 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier. It appears to be off the hinges 1688 01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:12,160 Speaker 1: and laying sideways. I can count maybe ten bullet holes. 1689 01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:14,080 Speaker 1: You know as well as I do that the door 1690 01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,680 Speaker 1: would have been blown to hell if two rounds were 1691 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,000 Speaker 1: put through it at short range by an a R 1692 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 1: fifteen on quote full automatic, that hallway would have looked 1693 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,360 Speaker 1: like a sawmill. It sucks. I even have to think 1694 01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,280 Speaker 1: about it, but it doesn't make sense on any level, 1695 01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,360 Speaker 1: and then a security guard disappears after the meeting with 1696 01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:33,960 Speaker 1: MGM management. Anyway, looking forward to the Dracula episode, there 1697 01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,960 Speaker 1: we go, perfect timing. David. The History Deep Dives are great, 1698 01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:40,559 Speaker 1: and you produce a well balanced show. We can only 1699 01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,840 Speaker 1: talk politics so much. Well, David, let me first say 1700 01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,200 Speaker 1: thank you for that. I do like to mix it 1701 01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,160 Speaker 1: up and bring a lot of information to the show because, look, 1702 01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,640 Speaker 1: I know that there's so much commentary out there, and 1703 01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:54,000 Speaker 1: by the time I'm on air, a lot of you 1704 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:57,240 Speaker 1: will have heard about the main news stories and maybe 1705 01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:00,200 Speaker 1: even some commentary in the main news stories. So that's 1706 01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:01,639 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I like to go deep 1707 01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,559 Speaker 1: on the national security side, bring a little expertise to things. 1708 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,320 Speaker 1: And also why I mix it up and why you 1709 01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:12,879 Speaker 1: have uh, some history deep dives, some more philosophical segments, 1710 01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:16,040 Speaker 1: some that are just about life and coming up the 1711 01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:20,559 Speaker 1: real Dracula for those who don't know the story, I 1712 01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,960 Speaker 1: think you'll really enjoy that. That will be as close 1713 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:25,599 Speaker 1: to Halloween. I gotta see what day of the week 1714 01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:29,519 Speaker 1: Halloween is, but the real Dracula is always that's a 1715 01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,519 Speaker 1: crowd pleaser because I'm I'm amazed to this day that 1716 01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:35,760 Speaker 1: no one has really made a movie about the guy 1717 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,519 Speaker 1: that Dracula, the character was based on. I mean, it 1718 01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:44,479 Speaker 1: is a historical character, as the cross versus Crescent theme 1719 01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,920 Speaker 1: continues through this show in terms of our history, Deep 1720 01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:51,120 Speaker 1: dives vlad dera cool who is the basis for Dracula, 1721 01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:55,720 Speaker 1: was raised in the Ottoman court. He was the equivalent 1722 01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,599 Speaker 1: in his day of like a special forces guy. He 1723 01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:04,040 Speaker 1: had non traditional he fought in nontraditional ways. He was 1724 01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,599 Speaker 1: schooled in the Ottoman arts of warfare and then fought 1725 01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:10,800 Speaker 1: for the Christians against the Ottomans. He was also a 1726 01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,960 Speaker 1: bloodthirsty maniac. But we'll get into all of that. We 1727 01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:17,320 Speaker 1: will get into all of that. It's a fascinating historical 1728 01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:20,080 Speaker 1: piece that I think doesn't get nearly enough attention, And 1729 01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:21,760 Speaker 1: now that I've talked it up so much, we will 1730 01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:25,400 Speaker 1: certainly have to spend some time on the show doing it. 1731 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:31,960 Speaker 1: Um Chessen writes in with a photo of his Chuck roast, 1732 01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,400 Speaker 1: which I can tell you all looks delicious. So Chessen, 1733 01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:37,920 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed that. I can't really describe it 1734 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,479 Speaker 1: well enough to do with Justice on radio. But I'm 1735 01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:46,120 Speaker 1: sure it was absolutely fantastic. And let's see who else 1736 01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,639 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make my there's so many and those 1737 01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,479 Speaker 1: of writing in just you know, even if I don't 1738 01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:53,800 Speaker 1: get to it on air. Um, if I don't get 1739 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,599 Speaker 1: to it on air, don't think that I'm not reading 1740 01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,640 Speaker 1: it and that you're you're not being heard in the 1741 01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:02,320 Speaker 1: sense that we're not getting to your messages. It just 1742 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:04,040 Speaker 1: means that we run out of time. And in fact, 1743 01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,720 Speaker 1: I gotta call it there because it is time for 1744 01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,439 Speaker 1: us to close up shop here in the Freedom Hut. 1745 01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,559 Speaker 1: Thank you as always, Facebook dot Com, slash buck Sex. 1746 01:43:13,560 --> 01:43:15,880 Speaker 1: Then if you want to send me those messages, I'm 1747 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:19,400 Speaker 1: gonna gonna be spending the night tonight in Baltimore, which 1748 01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,680 Speaker 1: is a lovely, lovely place. I want to thank w 1749 01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,960 Speaker 1: c w CBM for hosting me. Very generous of them 1750 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,719 Speaker 1: to allow me to come and use their wonderful radio 1751 01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:33,439 Speaker 1: studio and get a chance to enjoy Baltimore and its 1752 01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 1: surroundings and be close to the folks down here. So 1753 01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:38,440 Speaker 1: big thank you to w CBM.