1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hello everybody. It's Um Sam, I co host the podcast 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: here currently listening to called Stradio Lab, and I am 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: just um recording this little message to you, uh to 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: tell you that we are doing a live show in 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Brooklyn on March nine at eight p m. At the Bellhouse. 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: So if you live in New York City, we'd love 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: to see you there. If you feel like traveling from 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: wherever the hell it is you live, then we'd love 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: to see you there. Ticks are available. We're gonna have 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: special guests. It's gonna be so fun. We did one 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: over the summer and it was a damn blast, so 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: I have a really good feeling that this one is 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: going to be UM also fun. So yeah, um, And 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: now enjoy this gorgeous, beautiful, stunning, perfect no notes, absolutely unique, 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: completely self contained, um informative, and yet hilarious episode of 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: Stradio Lab. Okay, thank you bye, Okay, podcast starts. Now. 17 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: What's up everyone? You are listening to Stradio Lab. Um, 18 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: that's welcome back. Welcome back you, welcome back. Yeah, I'm back. 19 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 1: You for welcoming me back. I have to remind myself, 20 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, not everyone subscribed to the Patreon where you 21 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: would have already listened to the episode titled Sam Speaks. 22 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: So for many people, this is the first time you 23 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: have spoken in two weeks. Yeah, and in many ways 24 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 1: other than the Patreon episode. Of course, they would be correct. 25 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: It's baby's first words all over again. I am getting 26 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: my podcast legs back and you know, we'll see if 27 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: it's I got the stuff. And I have one question 28 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: for you, Sandwich is when you test it positive for 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: coronavirus and Chile, were you silent or were you silenced? 30 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for asking me that. I would say I 31 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: was very much silenced. I was whisked off to an 32 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Airbnb with Paris wallpaper, and UM have been unallowed to 33 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: speak ever since. Yeah, here's the so I've been. The 34 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: Paris wallpaper is almost like, um, it has now become 35 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: such a daily part of my life because you are 36 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, you've kind of made it a habit to 37 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: post selfies of yourself in front of the wallpaper, which, 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it online, it isn't Paris wallpaper 39 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: in the sense that there are there's like a beautiful 40 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: painting of the Eiffel Tower. It is, in fact the 41 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: wallpaper that says the word Paris and various different fonts. Yeah, 42 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: I mean it's very postmodern. It's very like called a MoMA. 43 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: It's it's not showing Paris, it is showing the word Paris, 44 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: and it's it's putting the onus on you to imagine 45 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: the city that is Paris that you know, it reminds 46 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: me of and of course I'm forgetting the artist. But 47 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: when you enter the Whitney there is a giant neon 48 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: sign that says America Like it's um and I everyone 49 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: everyone who's an art home listening to this is like 50 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: it's literally like a famous American artist whose name is 51 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: escaping me and I don't care right now, but it 52 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: like says America and giant letters and it's like, okay, 53 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: now it's very and now we said it when you 54 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: walk into Whitney, and that to me is what the 55 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Paris wallpaper in your airbnb in Santiago, Chile is going for. Yeah, 56 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: it's it's very much commenting on you know, what is 57 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: an image, um, and what is visual art? And what 58 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: do we talk about when we talk about Paris? Well, 59 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: and I you know, I can't not be addicted to 60 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: the fact that as an American in Santiago. My wallpaper 61 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: is Paris. You know, I do feel like if you were, 62 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, from Santiago, and you just wanted to stay 63 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: in this airbnb for some reason and you saw the 64 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: parents wallpaper, you'd be missing some of the context and 65 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you'd be like, yeah, this is like this person likes 66 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: the idea of Paris. But if you are visiting from 67 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: a foreign country and there's a different foreign country on 68 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: the wall, I mean, it's rubbing your snout in it. 69 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: It's like, do you like this, you stupid American tourist pig. 70 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: It's rubbing my snout in it. I think I keep 71 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: posting the selfies in front of it, too, because it's 72 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: almost like I want to post something that's like I'm 73 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: stuck in Santiago, But every time I opened my phone 74 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: and put on a selfie camera, all that's behind me 75 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: is the word Paris a thousand times, And so I 76 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: can't even get the brownie points of saying I'm stuck 77 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: in Santiago. It just says Paris. But I think it 78 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: adds to the you know, you are kind of in 79 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: this claustrophobic you know, It's like, uh, I think someone 80 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: mentioned a kind of a yellow wallpaper type situation, and 81 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: the Paris wallpaper adds to the a you know, fun 82 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: house mirror of your mind that's going on during this experience. 83 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: I mean it's like I would say that the inside 84 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: it's it's almost emulating the inside of your mind, which 85 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: is kind of like words don't mean anything anymore. What 86 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: place am I in? Like, yeah, I'm in Santiago kind of, 87 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: but it's Paris. You know, it's Paris. And here's what else. 88 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: No one else is saying, it's also l A. And 89 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: I it's weird. I'm in Santiago, but it's Paris. And 90 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: at the same time, it is in fact l A 91 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: because guess what, there's palm trees here. Sometimes it's just 92 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: that you were there to shoot something. Oh and I 93 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: was there and say that. And you're basically in a 94 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: sound stage and it's desert e here. It's hot and 95 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: sunny every day, at least right now because it's summer, 96 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: and so every day I'm like, Okay, it's summer here. 97 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: It's I'm in l A. I'm on a writer's I'm 98 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: in a writer's room in l A. That's what I'm 99 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: telling myself every day when I wake up. We're in 100 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: a room and you are a writer, and then I order, 101 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: you know, say, food from a restaurant, and then the 102 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: person comes and is speaking Spanish, and then I'm expected 103 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: to speak Spanish back, and suddenly the fantasy is shattered 104 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: and I'm back in Santiago. I'm not in Paris, I'm 105 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: not in l A. I am fact back and it's 106 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: very confusing. Yeah, and then you respond, speak English. Yeah. 107 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: I put in my special directions, my deliverery instructions. Speak 108 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: English from you know. Actually everything here is insanely bland, 109 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: and one talks about that. Not a single person talks 110 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: about that. Fascinating. Yeah. Here, I'll say, you know what 111 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: you missed last night? Please tell me so. So in fact, 112 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: this week you missed two shows that were gonna be 113 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: on together. One is the show that you co host 114 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: entitled Stevie, where they Marcia Andrew attempted to FaceTime you 115 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: on stage and then it did not work correct um. 116 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: And then last night we would have done a famous 117 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: New York staple called fifty first Jokes, where, in fact 118 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: fifth comedians each tell their first joke of the year, 119 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: and it should have been in January, but because of 120 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: it was. It was last night. Can I tell you 121 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: I had such a blast. It was like I said 122 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: this on stage, I was like, look at us, all 123 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: cost playing like there was just a vibe where I 124 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: was like, it was like, for a moment, none of 125 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: this exists, Like for a moment, we haven't We're not 126 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: about to enter a new variant. And then I also 127 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: accessed my Boston comic personality and really went out with 128 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: the guys after when I tell you, I was shooting 129 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: the ship with all the guy I was with, like 130 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: the you know, I'm talking Anthony de Vito, I'm talking 131 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: uh you know, uh, you know our friend Mike and Bruce. 132 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, it was I was chilling with the guys. 133 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: I was like keeping up. I was like cracking jokes, 134 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: and there was a sick pleasure of being like, you know, 135 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: I can access this, I can I know how to 136 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: hang I love that like you specifically, I don't in 137 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: my mind, I don't think I've ever seen you hang 138 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: with the guys, So to hear about it, it's like, 139 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: you're right, that is a possibility because in my mind, 140 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: like those types, like specifically like Mike, it's like we 141 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: knew each other from open mics forever and like there 142 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: was a lot of hanging with that style of cruise. 143 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: Mike is Mike, I feel comfortable within any environment. That 144 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: was the wrong example, but like I mean, I mean 145 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: kind of uh, you know, you know what I mean, 146 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: like comedians that are in a in a very slightly 147 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: different scene than we are. Let's say, yeah, and I'm 148 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: talking specifically about straight men. Just in case anyone was 149 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: unclear on that. No, you said, guys, they got it. 150 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: I know, but you know, the guys can in anything 151 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: these days, Am I right say that? Well, I'm glad 152 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: you were straight for a night, and I'm glad that 153 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: you it felt so good to be straight for a night. 154 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not even seeing that in a kind of 155 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: condescending way or like oh, like genuinely I was like 156 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: I let I could finally let loose. I just have 157 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: to ask, like conversationally, did you find it where? Where 158 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: there ever moments where you felt ostracized or all good, wow, 159 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: look at that. It's going to be a no. It's 160 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a no. Look at that. It was also 161 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: nice just like talking stand up, like not talking to 162 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: people that are like you know, it was just stand 163 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: up in its purest form, Like I was having this 164 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: conversation with um Anthony Davito about like what someone should 165 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: name their hour and like what is like the correct 166 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, something that can appeal to a mass audience 167 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: but also is like you know, is not hack or whatever. 168 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: And it was like such a fun conversation Mark Marin 169 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: over here. No, it's not crazy, I think. I guess 170 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm like having trouble jumping off because you weren't there. 171 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: You have to know. It's kind of because because I 172 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: wasn't there for one of those cases where we had 173 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: to be there. It's one of the many cases that 174 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: maybe you guys have run across this in your life 175 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: where sometimes you have to be there. But I also 176 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: think it's hard. This is one of those intros where 177 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: it's like we are just like sort of catching up 178 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: in a way that's like a little bit real, Like 179 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: you do have to like like it's actually helpful context 180 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: to know where both of us are at um we've 181 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: been up to, but it's also like it's hard to 182 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: be sort of post podcast when you're sincerely catching up 183 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: on what's sort of been happening. I guess, I mean, 184 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: I feel like Our analysis of the pair's wallpaper was 185 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: pretty post podcast if I can be so bold, sure, 186 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: sure that's true? Or should I say we was someone 187 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: telling us this that, like you know how and you 188 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: know in France they also say a way. It's kind 189 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: of like yeah instead of yes. And someone was saying 190 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: like they said way, and then someone was like, don't 191 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: say that if you're not friends, say wait, okay, stop 192 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: gate keeping the word. Yet I know you can literally 193 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: stop keeping the word. Yeah, it's not that deep. Oh 194 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: my god. In Chile, they like don't put like on 195 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: grassy s. They don't say the s at the end. 196 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: So I've really been trying to be like really casual 197 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: and be like Grassia, Like I always think about that 198 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: if I ever go to Spain, I'm like, I need 199 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: to have the confidence to do the list you have to. 200 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: But today the woman came to give me my COVID 201 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: test and she and I was just like really trying 202 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: to speak Spanish, but it was embarrassing. I have the 203 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: Spanish of the child, um, maybe a three year old. Yeah, 204 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: but are really hot three year old, hot, horny three 205 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: year old, horny three year old who's not afraid to 206 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: go there? Yeah, um, should we bring our guests. I 207 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: think that would be for the best, to be perfectly 208 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: honest with you. Oh my god, it's tough. Um yeah, 209 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: I guess, like, are we doing a good job? There 210 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: is something? No, no, no, no, no, you can you 211 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: just please please wait? I mean I've been waiting. Okay, 212 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: are we doing a good job to see? This is 213 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: one of those cases where I truly to be this 214 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: is a great insurance. But I can tell that you 215 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: are unsure. Okay, Okay, Well then in that case, I'm 216 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: just gonna you know. You didn't like it, specifically, you 217 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: didn't like my part. I thought your part was great. 218 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: I was questioning my own part as well. I think 219 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: your part was excellent. Okay, your part was better than mine, 220 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: But I feel the need to defend my part as 221 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: being also valid like I do think you. I do 222 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: think we never got to like a Paris wallpaper moment 223 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: with my part. But I thought I thought it would 224 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: be important to bring up since this is a podcast 225 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: about trip culture, that I was right for a night. 226 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: I think it is really important to bring it up. 227 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: And as a co host, I think I failed you 228 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: because I didn't treat it as the gift that it was. Yeah, 229 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: thank you, So I apologize. I actually feel my body 230 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: becoming more relaxed after you said that. You know, I 231 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: and improv. Everything your partner brings you is a gift 232 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: and you have to treat it as if it's special. 233 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: And I wasn't doing that. And I was you know, 234 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the story, but did it? Was it Christmas morning? 235 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: Totally totally, And just from my perspective, it actually seemed 236 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: like you enjoyed it fine until afterwards you were like, wait, 237 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: that was not that good. So for the future, you know, 238 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: if you've done a good job pretending to enjoy it 239 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: so far, maybe don't stop the magic halfway through, you know, 240 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: just let me believe it was a good gift. No, 241 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I just didn't. I felt like I 242 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: wasn't able to like riff on it in a way 243 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: that transcended what it was. Totally totally. Well, oh, brother, 244 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: I told you. I'm get my podcast legs back, um 245 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: to help us get our feet on the damn ground. 246 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: Um please, um, Welcome to the podcast Give a Glamour Girl? 247 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: Who do you who? For? Natalie robber Lightman. Hey, wow, guys, 248 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me. What well, I have 249 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: a lot to say obviously right at the game. The 250 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: first thing I want to say is, so, I read 251 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: this book last year about sibling rivalry and how to 252 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: help kids with what is it called pluge? It's called 253 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: siblings without rivalry? Can you write a book that was 254 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: about the opposite of sibling Okay, guy, you guys don't 255 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: got it. You guys don't got it. It just sounds 256 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: like no. But honestly, what I'm saying to you guys 257 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: is you don't get it. Okay, well you haven't started yet, 258 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: so and I love so basically, like the whole thing 259 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: is like, well you've really It's like it's not about 260 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: what one person has the other person has. It's like 261 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: seeing the feeling of like you feel like you don't 262 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: have enough cereal or whatever. And I want to say 263 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: that what you boys just did was a beautiful demonstration 264 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: of that philosophy. Really, you know what I mean, Who's 265 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: who's who's you know? Interest on first spot? Right, and 266 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: then and then you said I see you, I see 267 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: that you felt that, and then you can find out 268 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: of it and as a mother and as your mother's Yeah, 269 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: what could I wish for more for my boys. Thank you, 270 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: and honestly, all we really want is for your approval 271 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: as our mother. Yeah, you know we're putting on this, 272 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: this performance. We're pretending we're talking about things. None of 273 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: what we said is true. Sam's in New York. I mean, 274 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: I've been in New York whole time. I'm back in 275 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: my home at the Empire State Building on top. We're 276 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: just trying to make up story. And here's something I 277 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: just thought of. We make we tell ourselves stories in 278 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: order to live. I just thought of that, write it down, 279 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna I think I'm gonna write that one down, 280 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: and that I would even like to have an addendum 281 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: to that. You know, we tell ourselves. Wait to say 282 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: it again, we tell ourselves stories in order to live. 283 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: We tell ourselves stories in order to live. Um uh. 284 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: In the eyes of our mother, Natalie, we tell ourselves stories. 285 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: So and so then our mother is there. We tell 286 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: ourselves stories and so our mother is there. Well, okay, 287 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: so this is the same. On the one hand, we 288 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: tell ourselves stories. On the other hand, because our mother 289 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: is right, two things can be true. Two things can 290 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: be true. Do you believe in kind of like Freudian 291 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: mother stuff. Um, you know me, just like, do you 292 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: feel like basically everything we're doing is like rooted in 293 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: a relationship to our parents? Basically for sure? But I 294 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: don't think it's all like I gotta funk daddy, you know, totally. Yes, 295 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: I think some of it, sure, some of it, yeah, 296 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: but not all of it. My mom when she was 297 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: a kid, was acting out at one point and her 298 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: mom went to like a Freudian psychologists and that person 299 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: was like, she wants to suck your husband. No, got it? 300 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: And and then there's no end really to the story, 301 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: but it is. I was reading this book, in fact, 302 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: called in the freud Archives, and it is truly a 303 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: laugh out loud account of these feuding Freudians, and it's 304 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: like they're feuding, but because they're both Freudians, the accusations 305 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: are like, well, he attacked me because he clearly has 306 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: unresolved issues with his mother. Well he attacked me because 307 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: his testicles. He's insecure about his testicle. It's like it 308 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: was like this, these like professional fights, but then they 309 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: would keep going back to like the most personal stuff, 310 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, what an untendable way to live? 311 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean, feuding Freudian sounds very like Dr Susian. Yes, 312 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: I actually thought that when I said it, fifty feuding 313 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: Freudian Freudians fighting fighting the first Furrer. Oh yes, Oh 314 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: my god. I love like historical like stuff. That was 315 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: historical fiction. Inglorious bastards. Literally, are we craving another? Inglorious bastards? Okay, 316 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: so here's the that's literally the question. Thank you for 317 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: bringing that up. And my answer is, is he going 318 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: to make a gay one? Is he going to make 319 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: one that's like set during the Age Crisis and it's 320 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: like gay men murdering Ronald Reagan? Wait, George, I'm sorry, 321 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: but that's genius. Okay, we're gee gee, it's literally you 322 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: don't you see I'm making it. I'm making it. Yeah, done, 323 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: that's genius. That's literally all the premises. Can I give 324 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: you a suggestion and people will whatever. But just I'm 325 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: like very into film. And something that I just noticed 326 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: is it doesn't always work to cast gay actors and 327 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: gay roles. No, no, I would say yeah against the material. 328 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: So obviously it's a long way way. But when you 329 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: get to casting, you know, who would you cast as 330 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: a central and and and keep in mind. You know, 331 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: of course, some there's a lot of controversy about how 332 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: to depict who was affected the most by the age crisis. 333 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: Who would you cast? I'm thinking maybe you're so glad 334 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: we're getting to that. Yeah, Chris Pine. Yeah, that's a 335 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: really good choice. Yeah, I mean I love um, who's 336 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: the Chris from Partners Rack. Oh, Chris Prod. Chris Prod. 337 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: That's a really good one. That's a really really good one. 338 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: He can give you a laugh, he should. You know 339 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: what I'm realizing, you know, if we're doing this inglorious 340 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: bastard style, I mean there's already literally a narrative about 341 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: a brick being thrown, like imagine, it's like if it's 342 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: Tarantino esque, it's like Chris Pratt as a persecuted gay 343 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: individual at Stone Wall throwing a brick that then kind 344 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: of smashes a CoP's head. And there's blood everywhere. Of course, 345 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: there's blood. You know, when it comes to film, there 346 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: will be. And if you can double the blood, double budget, 347 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: double it help me. Yeah? Yeah, whatever, you know what 348 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: else I need to say? Hanging out with straight guys, Yes, 349 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: when it's right, it's so fucking right. Yes, Natalie, this 350 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Thank you for saying that. And 351 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: it's not always right, you know, but when it's right, 352 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: it's literally better than hanging out with anyone else. It's 353 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: like it is truly like if you get in the zone, 354 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: it is the most comfortable. It's like, oh, thank god, 355 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: you're a lot. It's a bubble bath. You're just in 356 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: and they just take you. You flow down a lazy river, 357 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: you know how I feel? Okay, Sometimes like it's similar 358 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: to like going and spending time in nature. Like it's 359 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: it's very much just sometimes food and if I'm like 360 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: I need my like gay comforts and I need my 361 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: city comforts. But like when you can really take that 362 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: that night and be with straight guys, you just feel cleansed. 363 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: That comparison is so apt. It's like when um, straight 364 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: people go to like a drag brunch that George having 365 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: his night with the boys, you know what I mean, 366 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: that's exactly what. It couldn't be a every day but 367 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: like on the weekend maybe sure, yeah, like a pre 368 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: weekend night. Yeah, it kind of roots you a little bit. 369 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, and this is the real world. We 370 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: can all pretend that we're real, but like this is 371 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: the world we live. Yeah, I mean I feel like 372 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys feel this as like 373 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: and I'm seriously not trying to be rude, but like 374 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: gay guys, I'm saying that nicely and so just I'll 375 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: just go on. And then like when you're growing up, 376 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: so like for me as someone, like I wanted those 377 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: guys to like want to me and they didn't and 378 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: like you're like, are you guys my friends? And like 379 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: but also I'm gay but whatever, It's like you spend 380 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: your whole life like chase a gay guys like I'm sorry, 381 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: straight guys affection. I'm like actually about to cry and uh. 382 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: And then and then you start living like without it, 383 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You're like, oh, I don't 384 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: need it, like by the way, like I'm gay and 385 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: like okay whatever, like it doesn't really matter. But but 386 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: the so then you have your whole life without it. 387 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: It's not like it doesn't like make up who you are, 388 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: but then you get to just have it for the night, 389 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, oh my god, like 390 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: I actually do have the straight guys attention and like 391 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: love it scratches an old itchy. Do you guys feel 392 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: what I said, Well, it's what a therapist might call 393 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm butchering this, but I think it's called 394 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: a reparative experience, which is where you like, let's say 395 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: you have had like a bad experience in Santiago, Chile, 396 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: then have a reparative experience. You plan a trip where 397 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: you make an effort to have a really good time 398 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: so that then that location is not a trauma in 399 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: your brain kind of. And I feel like that is 400 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: what it's like to hang out with straight guys on 401 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: your own terms. It's like, I'm not I'm not trying 402 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: to impress anyone. I it's of course, you know, I'm 403 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: not going to hang out with you know, like bad 404 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: Like I'm hanging out with like nice straight guys that 405 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: accept me for who I am. So like, I'm not like, 406 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm not intimidated. I don't feel like I'm coming up short, 407 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: like I'm re contextualizing the experience. I love it. And 408 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: thank you. I needed the language and he gave it 409 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: to me. And honestly, George, h shout out to you 410 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: for just having that language on hand because we were 411 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: going to be dancing around sort of the phrasing of 412 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: what that could be called. Could come up with that phrase. Man, Yeah, 413 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: I dated someone for six years, both of whose parents 414 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: were therapists. Oh my god, I know the language. Whoa 415 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: and therapists, I'll say it in Los Angeles, So that's 416 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: sort of top tier. Yeah, top tier definitely to the stars. 417 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: Maybe you know they can't discuss their their patients. Oh, 418 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: they can give a hint. They saw, they can give 419 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: a little hit. My mom is a therapist, and they 420 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: can give a hint. Does your mom have celebrity patients? 421 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know, but not not for my knowledge. 422 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: I want to know. I want to have badly. No, 423 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: her clients are are kind of like just people in 424 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: like Westchester. I assume they like fly in for her 425 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: because she's really good. Yeah, she sounds really good. I 426 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: mean she did a I'm fly into Westchester. You should 427 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: seriously take a helicopter to Westchester to see my mom. 428 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: To go have therapy with your mom? Yeah, yeah, she 429 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: does mostly couple's works, So bring whoever you two can go. Yeah, 430 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: we should go. Why not? Un fascinating? Should we do 431 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: the first segment? I was going to say that, actually, yeah, Natalie, 432 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: do you feel like we're talking over you too much? Oh? 433 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: My god, do you feel that? Well, I'm just like 434 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: you are someone who whose voice I value and who 435 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: I want to just here speak, and yet I keep 436 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: having the instinct to speak myself. Oh wait, do you guys? 437 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: I haven't felt that. I feel like I'm talking a lot, 438 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: but that's now the official narrative. Wait, I got I 439 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: don't want to be some girl who's like not talking. 440 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: It's like humiliating. Oh no, no, no, I'm like, I'm like, 441 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm like a girl afraid to talk. That's you're not 442 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: being that. You're not You're not at all. We actually 443 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: already changed the narrative and like we won't let the 444 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: first narrative take over, Like we have complete control of 445 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 1: the narrative and of the press and so like totally 446 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: will control this story. Do you sometimes feel like people 447 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: are reclaiming narratives too much? Yeah, at this point in time, 448 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: sometimes want to kind of defend the narrative and be 449 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: like the narrative has agency to like you have to 450 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: let it do its thing before you. Everyone keeps reclaiming, right, 451 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: you can't constantly. I mean, like Britney spears culture and 452 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: everyone wanted to do that with everything. Right now, I'm like, 453 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: can we just let some stuff be like what it 454 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: is on its surface? This is how I feel about 455 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: the Kanye I mean, who knows that this will be 456 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: relevant by the time it comes out, But like the Kanye, 457 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: Julia Fox, Kim Kardashian news cycle, where it's like basically there, 458 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: it's like the narrative is a hot potato and they're 459 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: each reclaiming it for essentially six seconds at a time. 460 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: It's like I can't gear up right because it's like, 461 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: this is a juicy story. And then it's like you're 462 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: having fun with what is abuse? And then it's like, no, 463 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: you're having fun with what is a mental health breakdown? 464 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: And then it's like just go through that over and 465 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: over and over and over. Right, I mean, well, then 466 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: Julia Fox walked a runway and then there was a 467 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: headline that was like her revenge dress, and it's like, wait, 468 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: what when did we get here? Like right, she's literally 469 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: she is so just happy to be here. I literally 470 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: like just happy to let me full of support. She 471 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: has my full support, full support. I think her saying 472 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: unca jobs is one of the funniest things that has 473 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: ever happened to me too. I um, I really like 474 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: I just I find them all. I love looking at her, 475 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: so that's all I got to beautiful, gorgeous, stunning, beautious. 476 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: And I kind of like how fake it all is, 477 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: like where it's like we did it for a month 478 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: and it's like over and an agree one like this 479 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: is this is radical honesty, the radical transparency. Totally. It 480 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: is like yeah, and it is kind of like it's 481 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: a celebrity couple, like they're all like that. Like it's 482 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: unsettling to us because it shows us the truth of 483 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: all celebrity couples, which like they just don't exist. It 484 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: literally does not happening, and that is not nice to us. 485 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: Nor Okay, now that we've controlled, I'll try and speak 486 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: up a little more get myself. No, I actually feel 487 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: bad for even say it's it's my insecurity at being 488 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: like a speaking to you, you know what I mean, 489 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: because because I often and then its spirals and then 490 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm as I'm doing now, I'm taking up space talking 491 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: about my own insecurity about talking too much, and then 492 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: it's like give it up. I hear you, but don't worry. 493 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: So let's do our for a segment, Sam, okay. Um, 494 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: So I've had a lot of time to reflect and 495 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: get stronger, and so I will be reducing the first segment, Natalie. 496 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: And it is called straight Shooters, and in it we 497 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: gauge your famil familiarity with complicity and straight culture by 498 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: asking a series of rapid fire questions basically this thing 499 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: or another thing. And if you ask any pop questions, 500 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: we will yell at you. Natalie, how did Sam do 501 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: introducing the segment? So cute, so sweet, amazing energy, great guy, 502 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone introduce a segments so well, Oh 503 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: my god. It actually brings tears to my eyes. And 504 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: to think that mere weeks ago back check that as 505 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: someone right now, I have to deal with my audience 506 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: smokes and just saying that mere weeks ago, Sam would 507 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: in fact ask me to introduce a segment because, quote, 508 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: you're so much better at it. Wait, that's weapon is 509 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: heart breaking heartbard. Yeah well yeah, but you know, but 510 00:29:55,120 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: it's like a really good weapon, totally all right shooting. Okay, 511 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, Yeah, why am I apologizing? Um? Okay, So, Natalie, 512 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: leftist politics or center parts, oh, center parts now, oh okay. 513 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: Basically like, of course leftist politics, right, but what we 514 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: actually can only focus on one thing at a time, 515 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: and right now it is center center. That's a correct assessment. 516 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: Natalie fat Joe or skinny girl Margarita, Oh, skinny girl, 517 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm a Bethney girl. I listened to just be the podcast, 518 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: so it's gotta be yeah, um okay. The teens of 519 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: euphoria or the thirty somethings of a story, the teams 520 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: of usphoria nicely unrealistic beauty standards or realistic the aging technology, um, 521 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: realistic d aging technology. I can't wait to participate. I 522 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: can't wait to be part of the conversation. Did I 523 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: be talking after the they are said? You can't do? 524 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: What you just did was just ask a question? But 525 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: of course you literally I did. I did. I wonder 526 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: if I can be talking after the things are said? Yeah, 527 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: making statements is not. It is allowed, Like that's not 528 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: love that six times ahead? Sorry? Um okay. Being a 529 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: linebacker or being a line producer, Oh my god, I 530 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: think honestly being a linebacker, because it would be silly 531 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: and cute if I did that, and if I was 532 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: a line producer, people would be like so disappointed in 533 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: me for like ruining forgetting to do stuff, and like 534 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, don't you think linebacker? 535 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: Maybe this is one of those things where you know, 536 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: you say the words so many times it loses its 537 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: meaning now here in the world. Now hearing the word linebacker, 538 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, that sounds that sounds like the title of 539 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: um kind of like a postmodern novel, Like linebacker doesn't 540 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: sound like like really conceptual or something like it's weird that. 541 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: I guess you could say that about like shortstop, like 542 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: those are pretty weird work. Yeah, well, what is a 543 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: linebacker again? That's I don't know, is that the big one? 544 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: That's the big one for sure? Okay, because people will 545 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: be anecker right right, but they're all pretty big, right. Yeah. 546 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: You can't be like tiny and be a football player, 547 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: for short, unless you're a kicker. Unless you're a kicker. Again, 548 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: if you're a kicker, do you never get in a 549 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: situation where you are beat up? I think I can 550 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: get beat up a little, but I don't think it's 551 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: very common. Mostly maybe after the game face if you're 552 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: talking smack at the at the bar or after the 553 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: big game. Right, if you win, they do like a 554 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: celebratory like punch in the fucking face. That's like they're 555 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: like jackass. That's good. Yeah, okay, Natalie self help or 556 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: self harm? Okay, guy who read that little ditty that? Yeah, 557 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: that was a George original for sure. I have to 558 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: say self help pretty unambiguously. Yeah, I mean I love 559 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: self helping. I read the book about something rivalry, which 560 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: we have to get back to. But but let's finish 561 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: the segment first. Okay, No, that wasn't sorry, that was 562 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: not directed at you. That was directed at me. Wanting 563 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: to respond to that, and George move on to George says, 564 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Okay, this is gonna be a hard one. 565 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: Oh god, Kirsten Dunst, Kristen Stewart or kin whoa, Oh 566 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: you know what, it's actually not hard um for me. 567 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: It's Christen Stewart, you know what I mean? Because I'm 568 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: like a lesbian, right, so it's not so like what 569 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: am I gonna pick? It's like, right, she's like your guys, 570 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: Lady Gaga. Yeah yeah, well she's like you can be 571 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: like you can have like a pinion to be like 572 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: oh yeah, she's like annoying or like she's like oh, 573 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: like oh, she's a really good actor, like she's a 574 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: guy actor or whatever. But it's like she's kind of 575 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: just like psychotically hot. It really is. And there's like, no, 576 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: there's no real advans or butts. I mean, maybe people 577 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: will righte in, maybe we'll get like flooding d ms 578 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: like we don't like her, but come on, and she 579 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: has this girlfriend, fiance whatever. She did this interview or 580 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, I met a two weeks ago, 581 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna marry her, like I'm engaged whatever. She's 582 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: just like a classic like hero for people, like we 583 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: really met her, she got engaged her fiance for two weeks, 584 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: but she made the plan. Yeah, she was like this 585 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: is the one. Yeah, so I do love Kristen. Kirsten 586 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: Dunson is architectural Digest house store. Have you seen it? Yes? 587 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: Of course, Sam, have you not? No weird? You got 588 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: to see what she's doing with little boat figurines. Yeah. 589 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: I can't decide if I actually like the house. I 590 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: did really enjoy watching her give the tour. I hear you, 591 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: I got it, and I agree with you. By the way, 592 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: So Natalie, I try and catch me not agree with you? 593 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, giving it a go or giving it arrest? Arrest? Okay, okay, 594 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: well finally I asked my last question so I can 595 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: respond to the Christian Stewart conversation, which is what I 596 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: wanted to do this whole time. It to me, and 597 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if this comes across as problematic to me. 598 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: It's like you watch something like The l Word. Each 599 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: of the women has a different energy and you're like, Okay, 600 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: these are all the kinds of queer women. Christian Stewart 601 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: is like, what if you took all those energies and 602 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: put them into one person? Um? Can you say more? No? Actually, okay, amazing. 603 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: Do you guys have another segment? Or I guess what 604 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean is just like she is as you're saying, 605 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: she is, as Sam said, she is your Lady Gaga, 606 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: and that she she's like she is the she is 607 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: the one, right I mean right, yeah, I mean she's 608 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: and people are so going to disagree with me. I 609 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: really should speak from personal experience because like whatever, but 610 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: it's it's not that she's so like um like, it's 611 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: really she's not Lady Gaga, because it's really that she's 612 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: so fucking hot to me, you know what I mean, 613 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: not even like oh she's like representing the culture or 614 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: she's like hating knockout after knockout or whatever. It's like 615 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: she literally like those talks in a way that is 616 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: um of having sex for me. I want to talk 617 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: about something else because I'm getting embarrassed. No, no, no, no, 618 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: but I completely agree with you. There's no one that 619 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: has more of an ironically charged presence. Yeah, it's not 620 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: true except for that girl who was in that French one. 621 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Um, I'm talking about like the singer 622 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: the one with Okay, do you feel like Adele is 623 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: the hotter one or the other one is the hotter 624 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: one from Thank You for Asking? And it's not Bluesenrm's 625 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: color that I'm talking about and actually talking about. Yeah, yeah, 626 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: the Blues Normers color whatever. It's icho. But um, Adele, 627 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: there's a fan cam of her and I actually, you 628 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: guys should post this in the show notes. Can Yeah, 629 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: we're going to post it in the show notes. A 630 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: fan cam video adel from Portrait of a Lady on 631 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: Fire that is literally going to get your guys rocks off. 632 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: So I hope I hope people are generally jerking it 633 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: to this episode, is all I can say. Do you 634 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: think you have like like a lot of kind of 635 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: like dyke like listeners. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean 636 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: based on emails we get and stuff. Yeah, and they've 637 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: glamoring for me the backlash I got when I said 638 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: I didn't like Kristen Stewart and for the record, I 639 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: was the one that we've talked about her in the past. 640 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: Oh all right, this is insane. Now, this is officially insane, 641 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like scared. You know, It's like, how come 642 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: it's insane when I start talking about it, Like because 643 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: you had a secret, Sam, you're kind of gate keeping 644 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: Kristen Stewart. Like, I'm just saying, this is how I feel. 645 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: It's like you're talking about her. But then when we'd 646 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: start talking about her, you are suddenly really tense and 647 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: you're like, that's not not that well. I'm obviously coming 648 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: in with like a bad energy, But I will say, 649 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 1: you guys had a thing about her that I didn't 650 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: know about, so I was preda no. No. Our thing 651 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: was just whether she's a good actress, which is completely 652 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: separate o respect, I don't know and of course the 653 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: thing is I keep saying, Sam, have you seen Personal Shopper? 654 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: And my answer remains, but and I do take back 655 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: what I said. I was watching the Twilight films and 656 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: it had and it was driving me crazy to watch them. 657 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: And that's I think I was coming from a place 658 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: of anger. Yeah, that those films. I'm not ready to 659 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 1: be reclaimed quite yet. They're not though, guys. Yeah, I 660 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: like what I missed it, I missed a little bit. 661 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: Now back, Oh did you know that? Yeah? Why know 662 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: you're an introvert. What are you guys talking about? Well, 663 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, I think it was actually a good time 664 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: to maybe move on. Great because imagine, truly imagine how 665 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: boring it would be if we were like, well, actually 666 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: we were talking about this and then we like had 667 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: to really did, like imagine, I don't want right natally, 668 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: What the hell is your topic? Okay, so my topic 669 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: is and this is a thing of straight culture if 670 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm understanding everything, Yes, is penis straws. And maybe people 671 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: don't know what you have the visual exactly, but you 672 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: google it, it it will come up like those plastic straws 673 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: that you have on like Bachelor at weekends. I have 674 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: a penis at the top, so you're like sucking on 675 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: a penis to get to the like gen tonic or whatever. 676 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm a bridesmaid, I've been one. Do 677 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: you identify as one more broadly just out of out 678 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: of cont specific event even when the wedding ends. I 679 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: think if someone tells you something enough times about yourself, 680 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: you start to believe them. And it's kind of like, 681 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: how like, you know, there's a kind of harmful stereotype 682 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: of like straight women like experimenting with queerness in college 683 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: or something, and that it's like and and and then 684 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: they you know, get whatever. It's like You're like, no, 685 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't experimenting with being a bridesmaid, Like that's my identity. 686 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, for the night. I'm like, how many 687 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: times I have to tell you like it was me? Um, 688 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 1: but I have, I've been one. I do identify and um, 689 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: like I've been on Bachelor Ate weekends and the penis 690 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: straw is like a big part of it. And it's 691 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: a very straight activity to suck out of the penis straw. 692 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: Yeah for me? Can I say more? Please? Okay? Basically 693 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: I feel like there's this thing on bachelor at weekends. 694 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 1: How do you guys on bachelor Weekend? I've been a 695 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: bride's man for my best friend jen and very briefly 696 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: there was a penis element to it than you wasn't 697 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 1: pinned the tail? Actually, you know what? I think maybe 698 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: that might have been of it, but I now can't remember. 699 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: But more importantly, we were very My friend jen Um 700 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 1: got married relatively young. We were like and the thing 701 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: that her brides her maid of honor plan was a 702 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: nude drawing class where there was a naked guy and 703 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: we all were taught how to draw him by this 704 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: like kind of domineering woman who was part of the 705 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: It was the one like peddling him. So we started. 706 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: First of all, it was at this like gorgeous airbnb 707 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,439 Speaker 1: that was kind of like a loft. So we did 708 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: the drawing and then we went out and this was 709 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: in London and we had British person Bingo, so it 710 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: was like we would go out bar hopping and it 711 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: would be like, okay, did you meet someone who is 712 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: from Essex? Did you meet someone who voted yes on Brexit? 713 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: And you would like to do the Bengo card And 714 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: some of them were kind of you. Thank you for 715 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: asking that question. What did you say, Natalie, you were 716 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: in England. We were in London, guy, did you say, oh, sorry, 717 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 1: go around healths kitchen. I'm so sorry. Her husband is British. 718 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: They got married in London. Oh yeah, that helps so much. 719 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 1: The batch it was in London. We drew a naked guy. 720 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: Then we went out bar hopping and that was about 721 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: and there were there was definitely penis paraphernalia, but I 722 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: can't remember exactly what it was like. I don't know 723 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: if it was straws. I don't know if it was stickers. 724 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was you know, confetti that 725 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: was shaped like penises. But there was an element of 726 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: that for sure, totally that And that is the only 727 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: time I've ever been in a bridal party. Okay, thank you, 728 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: And I'm taking all of that in. And I have 729 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: been in the bridal party once, but I did not 730 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: go to the bachelor at party. Been to a bachelor party. 731 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: Um not not. It wasn't political, um, I wasn't trying 732 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: to make my voice heard by by being silent. I 733 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: just sort of I think it was like, you know, 734 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: part of me has trouble committing to sort of the 735 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 1: flights and sort of the costs of part of it. Yeah, 736 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: there is that there's a part of me that doesn't 737 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: want to pay for it. Yeah, it's a burden. Well, 738 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: basically the theory is like at a bachelor at weekend, 739 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: and this kind of goes for any straight like girls 740 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: night or whatever. There's like a lot of work done 741 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: to like invoke sex and like sexiness and like something illicit, 742 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: like kind of something's happening right now, you know what 743 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Because it's a very like unsexual like kind 744 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: of known environment, like nothing's going to happen tonight. But 745 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: we have these penis draws are like, oh, we're doing 746 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: something a listed or like we're looking at a naked guy, 747 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: like we're drawing a penis, you know, like that kind 748 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: of and wearing the penis hat, or like we're playing 749 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: a game where we talk about sex, you know what 750 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Like you never have I ever or whatever. 751 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's very straight because with gay 752 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: people it's not there's not no sex, you know what 753 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean. The X is always on the table like 754 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. Like if you're in a group of gay people, 755 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: it's like it's not like oh yeah, like, well, that's 756 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: nothing would ever happen between any of that, right maybe, 757 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 1: and I'm not god, I don't know what's going to 758 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: happen something. So that kind of thing of like really 759 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: working hard to like add sex in like an obvious way, 760 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, is a straight thing. You 761 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: also point out the whole point of like bachelor bachelor 762 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: parties too, is like we have to go wild because 763 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: after this we only have sex with this one person 764 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: and we never are fun again because well then the 765 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: kids come and no home and um and uh. Whereas 766 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: I do think people are like marriage does not mean 767 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: um that in the same sense. I actually think that 768 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: first rate people, even bachelorettes and bachelor parties, have strayed 769 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: too far from the original thing, which was like have 770 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: sex one more time before you with someone else. There's 771 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: actually there's actually something almost beautiful in the simplicity of 772 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 1: a bachelor party at like a strip club, because you're like, okay, 773 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: this is straightforward, where it's like to have a bachelotte 774 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: party where it's like penises, penises, what are we doing here? 775 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: Totally like at least like a bachelor party back in 776 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: the day was like you're not married yet you should 777 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: have you should suck a girl, you know what I mean? 778 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 1: And then they would and then no, in our modern 779 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: day conception of commitment or whatever, like oh we're not 780 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: we don't have sex with other people, so that's cheating 781 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: and it'll still be cheating tomorrow. It's like, then what 782 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: are we doing here? You know what I mean? Why 783 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: it's the nights so different than tomorrow? Yeah, yeah, you're 784 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: completely right. I'm making like, um, like a mid summer 785 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,919 Speaker 1: style ritualistic It should end with like and now here 786 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: is a naked person have sex with them? People should 787 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: die and there should be blood. No. Um, the like 788 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: a lot of Glazer movie where they like kill something 789 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: that is, by the way, the feeling of a bachelorette 790 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: party where it's like something needs to happen, you know 791 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like in that movie it's murder, But 792 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: that's the feeling of like this night needs to be 793 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: like alive, and yeah it's not going to well that's it. 794 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: Well that's the the stilted promise of the bachelor party. 795 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: It's like, well, you want to go crazy, but you're 796 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: not going to do the one thing, like you're not 797 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: gonna have sex with something like, so then you have 798 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 1: to just like I find all these ways to get 799 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: all right to the edge, but not jump right totally. 800 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 1: And it comes in the form of a straw. Yeah. 801 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: When you are at these bachelor at parties, are you 802 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: having fun? Um? Yeah, a lot of the time. I 803 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 1: just went to one for my friend a couple of 804 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: months ago. It was just like a random house. I 805 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: got there, there was a horse nearby, and I did 806 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: shrooms and I looked at the horse. It was amazing, 807 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, And it was really fun. But then there 808 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: were penis straws and and I and I am a 809 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,919 Speaker 1: wrinkle in it, you know what I mean, Like sure 810 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: that it's like, oh the penis straw And I'm like, yeah, 811 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's kind of like, don't 812 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: don't think too hard about the whole thing. But but 813 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: I do. But I do. Um, I do have a 814 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: lot of fun all the time in my life. There 815 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 1: was something about would you say and I don't. I 816 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: don't want you to drag your friends, but like, okay, 817 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: for me, I'm like the bachelor party I'm describing is 818 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: very much. It was not. It was like everything was 819 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: done with a wink. It was a mixed group of 820 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: like women and gay men. It was like all these 821 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: people are like, you know, almost doing commentary on the 822 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: idea of a bachelor party. Like no one was there 823 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: earnestly being like, you know, right, I can't believe you're 824 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: doing it's batch like it wasn't you know. It was 825 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: very much like, oh, isn't it funny that we have penis? 826 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: Things like isn't it funny that we're doing this? You know, 827 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: And I'm almost like I almost crave the simplicity of 828 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: a non ironic like of a match or party where 829 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: it's really like I've been waiting my whole life for this. Yeah, 830 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the ones that I've done 831 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: are ironic. Like, I mean, listen, there's always a wink 832 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: in a odd with a penis hat, of course, you 833 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's a playful thing. Yeah, 834 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 1: it would be funny if it would be crazy if 835 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: there wasn't if someone was like, this is a fashion statement, 836 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 1: of course. And by the way, they'll check the runway 837 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 1: next year. Like it starts exactly as soon as something 838 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: is laughable, it becomes fashion. Right, you're joking now, but 839 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: literally you're going to be like bidding on one on 840 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,479 Speaker 1: eBay and like, how soon do you think pussy hats 841 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: are going to be reappropriated? Ironically, It's not soon enough. 842 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 1: We're honestly, I think I actually think it's it's really 843 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: going to take a second because it it felt it's 844 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: in the scars are bad, you know what I mean, 845 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: going to be like a quick bounce back. Oh my god, 846 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: what's wow? That really affected you? I'm sorry, Yeah, oh 847 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: my god, it was the hats you can't think of 848 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about how it's not an ironic Oh yeah, 849 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: they're not. They're not ironic. But I will say, like 850 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it is can be like a really 851 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 1: fun like you go away with a group of people 852 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: you get to meet, Like if you're the new people 853 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: you're meeting are fun. That's a great element, you know, 854 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean like college friends or whatever. Yes, I love that. 855 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: That's like the best part of a wedding. Yeah, I know, 856 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that is. Like I do think like 857 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: sometimes like queer weddings are kind of trying to like 858 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: reinment the wheel a little bit, you know, and it's 859 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know what, it's no problem. You 860 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: can do whatever you want, but like the wheel is like, 861 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: it's not bad. You know it's been tested. Yeah, it's 862 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: been It's tired and true. So I don't know, are 863 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,439 Speaker 1: you guys like gonna get married you think to each 864 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: other or whatever? Maybe after we see your couple of 865 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: therapist mom, I do I like, honestly, if it were 866 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 1: done well, I really love the premise of a bachelor 867 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 1: bachelorette party. It sounds so fun, and I'm at this 868 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: point in my life just desperately seeking excuses for people 869 00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:03,439 Speaker 1: to commit to having fun. I'm I'm tired of oh yeah, 870 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: let's I'll pop in for a drink, but then I 871 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: have to go to that thing. It's like no, no, no, 872 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: I want your complete attention. I want you to be 873 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: in a hotel room with me and you have to 874 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: go to sleep here and wake up here. You want 875 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: like what do you want them? You want like a 876 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: big weekend away or you want like a crazy night? 877 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? That's a great question. 878 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be a big weekend away. But 879 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: I want a small weekend away. Like it's say maybe 880 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: like Atlantic City, it's like an hour. I want to go, 881 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: like an hour out of town. So everyone's everyone's committed 882 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: to being there, and it's it's not hard to get there, 883 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: and then you just everyone is on the same page 884 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: of like going for it and being a lot of fun. 885 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 1: I would I'm imagining. Maybe this is boring, but like 886 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm imagining an upstate house with the right crew. You 887 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: guys are really describing the two kids like the two 888 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: best kinds, you know, Like I do think Atlantic City 889 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 1: would take me out of it. I'm going to be honest, 890 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: like I need to be I need to not be 891 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: affected by my surroundings, Like I don't need to see 892 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: someone stumbling on the street, you know, Like I I 893 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 1: wanted to stimuli, yes, or I want to be in 894 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: control of the stimuli. Okay, I love that. I do 895 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: want the option to go to a bar, like specifically 896 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: like a smaller city bar I find to be so fun. Yeah, 897 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: well yeah, I mean, unfortunately, have the trauma of going 898 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: to a small bar in Maine and singing karaoke with 899 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: a woman and we did um the pink song some ballad, 900 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: She's amazing. It was called who Knew? Really? Yeah, it 901 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: was Who Knew? The Connected? Are we right now? That 902 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 1: was great? But here's here's the thing. Then I was 903 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: like we were saying it together, and I was like trying. 904 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: I was being a little a stranger. Yeah, she was 905 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: her forties. I was being a little kind of and 906 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,720 Speaker 1: I was taking the role of like gay guy who's like, yes, queen, 907 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: you know. I was doing a little bit of that whatever. 908 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: We're in karaoke fine, um, And and then I was 909 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 1: like trying to be like cutie with her. And then 910 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: she was like truly turned to me and had like 911 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 1: tears in her eyes and was like, this song reminds 912 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: me of my baby, who I haven't seen in so long. 913 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, and then I actually that 914 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: experience was immensely dramatic in terms of like suddenly being 915 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: brought down to earth when I thought I truly was 916 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: like I'm a tourist in this small city and I'm like, 917 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm like having fun with this random woman. And there 918 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: was just like a real like down to earth moment 919 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 1: where I truly still think about it to this day 920 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,760 Speaker 1: and that that has like affected how I how I see, 921 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,879 Speaker 1: like knowing how when I'm somewhere else. No, there's than 922 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: like a person who's like a casual stranger slash friend, 923 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 1: like trying to become like a three to mentional person 924 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: with you, Like, let's acknowledge what this is, like we 925 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: are performing a person for each other. Right, Yeah. I 926 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: wonder how she thinks about it though, Like maybe she's like, 927 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 1: oh my god, like that night, like I was so 928 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: held by that guy that I did. Know what I mean, 929 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: I will say, to my credit, I did step up 930 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,280 Speaker 1: to the plate and then like have like pretty intense 931 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,280 Speaker 1: conversation with her. It sounds like you did. That's probably 932 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: why it's traumatic for you. You gave it to her, 933 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And it's good that you 934 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 1: did it, But it was also crazy that to me 935 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 1: that song, who knew I was almost doing it. I 936 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, so random that it's like this, 937 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: And then she was like, the song is really meaningful 938 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: to me. I can't. I mean, there's no way to 939 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: talk about it without sounding like an asshole. But well, 940 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: I do think that Pink has that funny ability to 941 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 1: be very very much a joke to some people and 942 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: literally like a prince to other people. You know, my 943 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 1: my mom is addicted to Pink. You know. That's like 944 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 1: I genuinely wish I could, like I don't enjoy like 945 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: being having a different opinion on it, Like I wish 946 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 1: I could just be like hell, yes, but more like 947 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: she'll be like, so what do you like? Do you 948 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: like pink? And like do get guys like pink? And 949 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: wait that I should have done that as my topic. 950 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: Pink is such a good topic, pink should I should? 951 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: I save it for someone else. There's nobody straighter, especially 952 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 1: how dikey she looks is. It's amazing the way that 953 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: she can look and act and how straight she can 954 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: still seem and be. Yeah, well it's all these signifiers. 955 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: Do you would think like, oh, she's really good friends 956 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 1: with Ellen, like all these things that maybe to a 957 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 1: straight person would read as queer, but actually her even 958 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: more straight. It's an amazing right, George, Yes, Like it's 959 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: it's just an example of how like the facts don't 960 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: tell the whole story, like you really represent just looking 961 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: at the raw data, like yeo, do you have a 962 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 1: short haircut because she liked to do aerial tricks. Yeah, 963 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: but she's not a lesbian and she can act like one. 964 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: And you're so thank you for bringing raw data, the 965 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: concept of broad data into it, because it goes to 966 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: show you how relying on stem does not tell the 967 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: whole story. Like that's why you need a kind of 968 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: liberal arts education. You can't just rely on the data. Yeah, 969 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: and you have to rely a lot on like vibe 970 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: is something. Yeah, Yeah, did you get to the bottom 971 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: of penis straws? Well, I'm almost like, Natalie, do you 972 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: have anything you want to say about specifically penis straws? 973 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: Which you totally don't have to because to me, this 974 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: topic has always been about the concept of well, I mean, 975 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: the penis straw like itself, I think is just like 976 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 1: embodies the thing of like, oh, like I'm doing something sexual, 977 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like needing to be like 978 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: this is sexy when you're with all girls. I'm drinking 979 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: out of it, Like I'm putting my mouth to the 980 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 1: little tip of the shafts on the straw. And you 981 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to do that if you were gay, you 982 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, you wouldn't. You wouldn't have 983 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: to bring it in so hard with the straw. Yeah, 984 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: but I actually I actually wish they would though. Okay, sorry, 985 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm I love it. Yeah, Okay, hear me out a 986 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 1: gay bar. That's bachelorette party themes wait and wait, yeah, 987 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and all the drinks have penis straws are 988 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: wearing penis hats. You get like it's like a joke. 989 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: It's like a commentary. Literally, gay men wearing batch threat 990 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 1: like bride and pin the penis on the guy in 991 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: the corners. Okay, right, okay, you guys actually have your 992 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: next projects. By the way, door, do you need to 993 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: write that movie about Reagan Corcasses and Sam. You actually 994 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 1: have to start this bar and literally we need to 995 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 1: get you like seed money. I'm so excited for you guys. 996 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: This is crazy, that is amazing. I mean you would go, right, 997 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 1: I would you know who else would go? Yeah, they 998 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: like it, but they would go and then and they 999 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 1: would be fun for the guys there, Yeah, and they 1000 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: would kind of props. It's funny because one of the 1001 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: most frustrating, I feel like, quote unquote debates is when 1002 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: gay men are like straight women need to stop going 1003 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: to game like batch no more batch stort parties at 1004 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 1: gave bars, and then it's like this is like what Yeah, 1005 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 1: I just like stumbled into that, but it's just like 1006 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: it's not that simple, Like you can't this isn't like 1007 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: a clear punching up, punching down thing like gave bar 1008 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: should be for everyone. So then it's like, well, you're 1009 00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: almost like remixing that and making it completely nonsensical where 1010 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, no one's on top here, No everyone's 1011 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: on the bottom, and and it's like, oh, like why 1012 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: are these women at the gay bars? But but if 1013 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: they came to this gay bar, they would be a 1014 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: fun prop for the guy. Like it's really for the guys, 1015 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you could have like 1016 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: a photo booth in the corner and and you're like, 1017 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, look, you know. It's in the same 1018 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,479 Speaker 1: way that it's like girls go to the gay bars 1019 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: and be like it's gay, But but they would be 1020 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 1: the ones that are like, do you guys know what 1021 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying? I do get what you're saying, and I 1022 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: think you're do you think I should say it for 1023 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: like another half hour? Well it was it was hard 1024 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: because it was like we can't interrupt, you know, like 1025 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: so we're just like a natural conclusion. Um. You know. 1026 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,919 Speaker 1: I used to think that like bachelor party at gay 1027 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 1: bars thing like had kind of like aged out, like 1028 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: I thought it didn't exist anymore. And then a few 1029 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: years ago we were on Fire Island, which you know, 1030 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: it's like hard to get there, hard to get housing there, 1031 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: like it's like a commitment. And there was a full 1032 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: bachelor that's the housing crisis. There was a full bachelor 1033 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: head party fully on Fire Island, like treating you get 1034 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: here and they're like treating the game in like props. 1035 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is crazy, Like you don't 1036 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: understand where you are. Can I tell you something? You 1037 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: think that most straight women at this point have multiple 1038 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: gay friends. It is shocking how not true that is. 1039 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 1: And so and it is way more often And I'm 1040 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 1: not saying I'm offended by this. I don't care, but 1041 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: it is way more often than you think that you 1042 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: will suddenly be spoken to by a straight woman as 1043 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 1: though it's like and she's watching Will and Grace. It is. 1044 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 1: It is shocking because you kind of think, like New 1045 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: York like media representation, like surely every kind of cool 1046 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: looking straight woman has a few close game ill friends. 1047 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: You just kind of think like that's part of the world. 1048 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: Now it really is. I am constantly, constantly shocked by this. Yeah, 1049 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 1: would you agree, Sam? I feel agree? It's kind of crazy, 1050 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: and it's almost sad because you can because you can 1051 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 1: tell that they somehow missed the bone, like they were like, 1052 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: oh no, like I'm thirty three and I still don't 1053 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 1: have close gate male friends, right. They just moved the 1054 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 1: wrong towns, in the wrong order, in the wrong decades 1055 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,439 Speaker 1: and just missed it all. Yeah, you know what I mean. 1056 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 1: It's also like a self fulfilling thing where it's like 1057 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 1: they treat gay men like that, and gay men don't 1058 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: want to hang out with them, so then they're always like, well, 1059 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 1: why don't I have the best gay friend? Right, It's 1060 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 1: like because you want one. That's so sad. That's heavy, 1061 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: It's really sad. Yeah. Yeah, I like don't want this 1062 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 1: episode to end. Sorry, now, I like brought the concept 1063 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: of it ending into the conversation. Well, I just you know, 1064 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 1: I want to say, in the Street Women, this has 1065 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: been like a a critique of you this episode, and 1066 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: I personally love you. I thrive around street women, and 1067 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 1: I think for the most part you're my icons, my 1068 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: idol straight women are I agree? You know, is one 1069 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: of the great one of the great straight women. My 1070 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 1: mom my, wait, can I say something? Yeah, my mom 1071 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: our moms and our mom's know how to act around 1072 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: game in Yeah, yeah, best friends with our moms. Yeah, 1073 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 1: and yeah, that's the real Freudian thing. Elephant in the 1074 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: room is that we just want to be best friends 1075 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,439 Speaker 1: with our mom mom. He was too afraid to write 1076 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,920 Speaker 1: it down. Yeah, he was like, Oh, I guess I 1077 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 1: want to hurt best friends. Yeah, you want to be 1078 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 1: having a bachelorte party with your mom. Oh my god, 1079 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: the dream. I mean, yeah, I have to give a 1080 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: major shout out to straight women because literally like some 1081 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 1: of the us girls in the world and taught me 1082 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 1: so much and and a big part of me is one, 1083 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: who what am I saying? Really? What does that mean? 1084 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, by the way, oh, this would be 1085 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 1: an amazing platform two D come out on. Right, would 1086 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 1: be straight culture. My topic is me no, but like 1087 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 1: I was one for a long time, And I mean 1088 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 1: I think a lot of like day women don't feel 1089 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: comfortable in some of the like straight like girls stuff. 1090 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: But I was like a big fan of like sleepovers 1091 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: and like blah blah blah, and like closeness and like yeah, 1092 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,479 Speaker 1: but also my friends growing up, my straight girl friends 1093 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: who are all straight now and he's bought up parties 1094 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: like go too. When we were kids, we used to 1095 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: hump the ship out of each other, like I mean, 1096 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like why why did I love it? So 1097 01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, straight, girls are amazing, Like literally you 1098 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 1: can rub on each other. I don't know what that was, 1099 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,439 Speaker 1: but it was seriously amazing. And sleepovers are to die 1100 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: for if you play them right. And that's honestly, what 1101 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 1: is a bachelorette party but a sleepover? And I want 1102 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,560 Speaker 1: to have one. Oh my god, I would love to 1103 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 1: have a sleepover. Oh yeah, do you guys do that ever? Well, 1104 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: I feel like if you're having a sleepover with game 1105 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 1: and it does not the stereotype, but it is an 1106 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 1: orgy whatever, thank you. M Yeah. I feel like sleepover 1107 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: is like no one's doing them anymore. Everyone needs like 1108 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 1: their night creams or whatever. No. I fully, I think 1109 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: that's so true. Everyone's like, well, my back hurts if 1110 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 1: I like, don't sleep in my own Yeah, yeah, it's like, 1111 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: can you just have a fucking night where your back hurts. 1112 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 1: It's worth it for the camaraderie. Totally get a massage. 1113 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,520 Speaker 1: That's a great excuse. Can I give each other? People 1114 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 1: who are particular about their routines when they're literally on 1115 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 1: like a group vacation is so destabilizing. I now, I'm 1116 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:09,919 Speaker 1: like not sure if I want to say this because 1117 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 1: maybe these people listen. Let's just say. Let's just say this. 1118 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 1: I once went on vacasion with people who kept adhering 1119 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 1: to strict exercise regimens while on that vacation. That would 1120 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 1: like interfere with group activities, so we would have to 1121 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 1: plan around their exercising. That's tough. You can say. I'm 1122 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,880 Speaker 1: not gonna say, I'm not gonna I'm our lips a seed. 1123 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 1: You know, I don't exercise anymore, and I want to 1124 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: say this to listeners. It is literally one of the 1125 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: best things that ever happened to me. Yes, I mean 1126 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: I take walks or whatever, but when I have to 1127 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 1: go somewhere, but seriously, my body, I've never felt more amazing. 1128 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 1: And some people aren't supposed to do it. I'll just 1129 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 1: say that it's not right for everybody. What's so funny 1130 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,920 Speaker 1: is I don't exercise, but I feel a conn I'm 1131 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 1: basically well, you know, it's like occasionally I'll do stuff, 1132 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 1: but it's like I basically feel constant guilt. About not exercising. 1133 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 1: You need to We need to talk because literally, you 1134 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: can be free. You just don't have to do it. 1135 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 1: You don't even Okay, okay, I can't. I can't support 1136 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 1: this converense you can and I know whatever, we can't 1137 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 1: get into this again. Working out is like the thing 1138 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 1: that puts me in the best mood. I feel incredible. 1139 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 1: I need to go for a run or actually, I'm 1140 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 1: feeling so much affection for you. I don't know what's 1141 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 1: going on, Natalie. I've been there, set and there is 1142 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 1: a way out. Pity. No, no, no, no, no, it's 1143 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 1: the door. Like actually I'm like that. I stand. Look 1144 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 1: look at your big smile. It must be true for you, 1145 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's amazing, George. It's not 1146 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 1: true for you, and you need to come with me. Okay, 1147 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: I love I love Natalie the like prescribe like almost 1148 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 1: as if it's like antidepressants. It's like, it's not for everybody. 1149 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Therapy size. Of course, it's very individual, but not everybody 1150 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 1: can be jogging? Are you kidding me? What is harder 1151 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 1: on the body than throwing yourself at the pavement. Second, 1152 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I do think running specifically. I'm sorry to say is insane. Yeah, 1153 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,720 Speaker 1: you're sacrificing yourself. You run a little. I don't run 1154 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 1: like a a mile or two to warm up for 1155 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 1: my my gym time. You like to be at the gym. 1156 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 1: The idea that a mile. If I ever ran a mile, 1157 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 1: I'd be like, well, it's time to go to the 1158 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 1: hospital at point nine nine. So, oh my god, do 1159 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 1: you like the gym like life? I love the gym life. 1160 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 1: It really is. It's like and I don't even think 1161 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm particularly good at it, Like my body is like 1162 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 1: quite average, But I just like love going there and 1163 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 1: I love like hitting the weights and going for little runs. 1164 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 1: And oh I can't get enough of the stuff. That's amazing. 1165 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,600 Speaker 1: And I would never try and take it from you, 1166 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 1: even though it seems like I am. Um, Yeah, I 1167 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: want to. I want to join my fantasy in life 1168 01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 1: along with my bachelorette bars to join a really really 1169 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:24,440 Speaker 1: fancy Jim one day, Sam, you literally can join Equinox. 1170 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 1: Are not there yet, you know what I mean? I know, 1171 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: but I just think, knowing how much joy it would 1172 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,839 Speaker 1: bring you, you can cut costs elsewhere and join Equinox. 1173 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 1: Could you get like some type of deal with them 1174 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 1: or you like post hashtag ad do you know what 1175 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean? May be down, but George, what we can't 1176 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: talk about that? Seriously? He wants to be happy. Can 1177 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 1: we help her? I don't think I'm no, I don't 1178 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,840 Speaker 1: think they would have me. Yeah. I feel like our 1179 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 1: listeners would wouldn't mind a tempercent discount on the six 1180 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:02,960 Speaker 1: bright point right on a discount crowd. Should we do 1181 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,639 Speaker 1: a final segment is a real question. We absolutely should, George, 1182 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,719 Speaker 1: do you want to introduce it? Yea naturally. Our final 1183 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 1: segment is called Shoutouts, and in this segment we pay 1184 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 1: homage to one of the foundational elements of straight culture, 1185 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,799 Speaker 1: which is the radio shout out. Think t RL, think 1186 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 1: you know Elvis Duran and the z Morning Zoo. I 1187 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 1: love him. He's gay, by the way, go on, No, 1188 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 1: he's he's a gay guy. Yeah wow, welcome to the flock. 1189 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah wait, what did you say? I don't know? Um, 1190 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,639 Speaker 1: So we will each go around and do a shout 1191 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 1: out about something that that is on our minds this weekend. 1192 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 1: You know what, I actually something came to me. I 1193 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 1: can go first. I would love first. I want to 1194 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to the band Gossip and 1195 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,639 Speaker 1: its lead singer Beth Ditto. Let me tell you something, 1196 01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 1: dearrest listeners. I recently did a deep dive into the 1197 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 1: work of the band Gossip, which I used to live in, 1198 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,640 Speaker 1: and I would say, you know, they broke up, you know, 1199 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 1: a few years ago. I haven't. They're not in my playlist. 1200 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 1: I don't regularly listen to them, and I just want 1201 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,840 Speaker 1: to say, nobody is doing it like these men and 1202 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: women anymore. I highly encourage everyone to do two things. 1203 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 1: One is, go look up the performance of Standing in 1204 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: the Way of Control that they did on David Letterman 1205 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 1: and tell me that it is not real rock and 1206 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 1: roll the world has not seen since two thousand seven. 1207 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 1: And to go listen to the song Step in the 1208 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: Right Direction and tell me that song should not be 1209 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:37,120 Speaker 1: a canonized empowerment anthem on par with Haiti Barry's Firework. 1210 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 1: I'm talking they should play it on RuPaul's drag race. 1211 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking they should play it in graduations. It should 1212 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,680 Speaker 1: be a theme when someone has a coming out party. 1213 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 1: And so with that, I am calling officially for a 1214 01:11:53,800 --> 01:12:00,640 Speaker 1: career resurgence of one Miss Beth Ditto. And that's final. Um. 1215 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 1: You know, George, I'm down for the reclaiming of that band. 1216 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 1: Uh I. From my experience, I remember them being like 1217 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 1: I felt like Perez Hilton liked them so much in 1218 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 1: their heyday that it was like I was like, Okay, 1219 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: I won't like this, like it's a big tent. Though 1220 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,760 Speaker 1: it's a big time. It's totally a big time in 1221 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 1: my mind. They're very like fashion like Beth did, I 1222 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 1: feel like, would like walk runways and it would be like, 1223 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 1: isn't it fun to cheese there? And I think you're right? 1224 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,639 Speaker 1: And I think I'm just Maybe it was even internalized 1225 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,599 Speaker 1: homophobia where I was like, well, Perez like sit so much, 1226 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 1: then I don't like it totally. But but that is 1227 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:49,880 Speaker 1: definitely my association. Um, I have no association off. Well, 1228 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 1: there you go. Is that true. I don't know. I 1229 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,080 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I would I don't know 1230 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,640 Speaker 1: a lot about music and if I if I was 1231 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,800 Speaker 1: trying to flirt with you guys, that would be something 1232 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,400 Speaker 1: that I would have brought up sooner, you know what 1233 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:08,280 Speaker 1: I mean, so we could explain music to you. Happy 1234 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 1: to send you some playlists. The only thing I love 1235 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:17,639 Speaker 1: I seriously needs, please send me love that Wow? Okay, 1236 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:23,600 Speaker 1: well I'll go now ready, what's up freaks and losers 1237 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 1: and perverts out there around the globe. I would like 1238 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:32,720 Speaker 1: to give a huge shout out to lettuce, specifically ahead 1239 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,839 Speaker 1: of lettuce. Having ahead of lettuce is the peak of wealth. 1240 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 1: I have always thought I'm not worth it. I can't 1241 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 1: have lettuce. I'll just use some of the fucking box 1242 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 1: salad and put it on my sandwich or whatever. I 1243 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,759 Speaker 1: got a fucking head of lettuce because I was going 1244 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 1: through it in Santiago, Chile, and I'm pulling these dang 1245 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: leaves off and putting them on my sandwich. Oh the crunch, 1246 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: the fresh, wet feeling, the head of lettuce, Oh, so 1247 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 1: crisp and refreshing. I think it has taken my sandwich 1248 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 1: to the next level. And I've been waiting for this 1249 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 1: level my entire life. And I think it's so important 1250 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 1: that we don't hold ourselves back and we get the 1251 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,400 Speaker 1: head of lettuce. And we joined Equinox because you're worth 1252 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 1: it and it's time and so a head of lettuce, 1253 01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 1: I think you're a great addition to a sandwich. And yeah, 1254 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw away half and that's cool too. I'm 1255 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,840 Speaker 1: allowed so x o x o, I love you. A 1256 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 1: head of lettuce awesome. I'm like, you're making fun of me. Oh, 1257 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:47,479 Speaker 1: I'm literally not. I didn't. I didn't. I really thought, 1258 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,640 Speaker 1: I what what was that? What was a bit? What 1259 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,559 Speaker 1: took you know? When I understood what you were saying, 1260 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:54,880 Speaker 1: I was on board. At first. I thought you were 1261 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,639 Speaker 1: gonna make a salad with the head of lettuce, which 1262 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,719 Speaker 1: one could argue would make more sense with a whole 1263 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,160 Speaker 1: head lettuce, But in fact, you wanted to just pluck 1264 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,760 Speaker 1: a few leaves off for your sandwich. Is gonna throw 1265 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the way, which I guess is also 1266 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 1: a way to use it. Yeah. No, I feel I'm 1267 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 1: literally at about daga, you know, like my sandwiches are 1268 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 1: like that level right now. M I think you're really 1269 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 1: onto something because I fucking hate the bag box of Greens. 1270 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 1: It's like they just they're they are rotten. They come rotten. 1271 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,920 Speaker 1: The freshest ones are rotten to the core. So I 1272 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 1: support it and I want it for myself too, But 1273 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,479 Speaker 1: it's it doesn't unattainable. Yeah, but actually it's like you 1274 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,599 Speaker 1: can do it. It's easier to go to Equinox than 1275 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,600 Speaker 1: get ahead of lettus. That's right now, it is. I 1276 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 1: mean shows you everything wrong with inflation? Are you kidding me? Yes? 1277 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,680 Speaker 1: I also think it's so important to just encourage like 1278 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,200 Speaker 1: food waste as you did, like that. You need to 1279 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 1: be doing that kind of thing. Do you don't like 1280 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 1: to throw it out? I can turn it into fossil fuels. Yes, 1281 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:04,439 Speaker 1: you're not composting back in the earth stage right, you're 1282 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 1: growing out? Is recycling, right? I mean the problem is 1283 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:16,280 Speaker 1: that anyways, that's true, like because recycling is recycling. Okay. 1284 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 1: Something that I think about sometimes this is we can't 1285 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,040 Speaker 1: we can't air this. But sometimes I'm like, if something 1286 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 1: is going to compost, what's the point of putting it 1287 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 1: in a compost? But I can't. We can't go there. 1288 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 1: We can we can't go there because it won't it 1289 01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,280 Speaker 1: will compost. It won't not like specially turn it won't compost. 1290 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 1: Give an eggshels. Sorry not to be a cop, to 1291 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 1: be a cop, not to know, but we don't think 1292 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm okay, okay, Natalie. Would you like to do a 1293 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 1: shout out? Yeah? I always want to do one. Hey guys, um, 1294 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:53,440 Speaker 1: I want to shout out today. Um thanks underwear panties 1295 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:59,639 Speaker 1: and boxer panty because basically, you guys know this, it's 1296 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,560 Speaker 1: an underwear that absorbs your period. Now that's not possible, 1297 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 1: I know, but it does it the science it's literally magic. 1298 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 1: It makes no sense. They're like it can hold eighty 1299 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 1: gallons of period of blood. You're like, really because it's 1300 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 1: a piece of cloth and they're like yeah. And You're 1301 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,639 Speaker 1: like does it go anywhere? And they're like no. You're like, 1302 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 1: how's that? How's that? Because that's literally how possible. But 1303 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm finding as I get older, and I'm sure a 1304 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 1: lot of my listeners are that I'm I'm a little 1305 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,240 Speaker 1: less amenable to putting stuff up my vagina. Like I 1306 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 1: don't know, stuff used to just go up, like I 1307 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 1: can't really explain it, Like it just wasn't an issue. 1308 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 1: Kind of like it's like with people and with like 1309 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 1: stuff like I would just be like, you know, and 1310 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,720 Speaker 1: I could just put like a Diva cup people and 1311 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,960 Speaker 1: be like, oh, it's too much, it's too much, And 1312 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,000 Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's not, just like shove it. 1313 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: But something's changing and now I'm kind of like, you 1314 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,920 Speaker 1: know what, it's a little too much. I guess this 1315 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 1: is part of getting older. So I'm utilizing the underwear 1316 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 1: to catch the blood and it's amazing and I don't 1317 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,680 Speaker 1: understand it, but I appreciate it. And I got to 1318 01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 1: give a shout out shadow, and you know, they're not 1319 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 1: even an advertiser, no, and I'm not even attached to 1320 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 1: the brand. I actually shouldn't have said things because I 1321 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 1: think there are better ones that I actually want to get. 1322 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:22,640 Speaker 1: But just that that idea, you know, well, yeah, I 1323 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,080 Speaker 1: love that that. I loved sort of the ad to to. 1324 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 1: I thought that was like kind of calming. Well, I'm 1325 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 1: very entrepreneural. Being a consumer is being an entrepreneur exactly 1326 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,320 Speaker 1: being a consumer. Yeah, Like I'm an influencer of course, 1327 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,120 Speaker 1: just by virtual purchasing something to myself, right, I say, 1328 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,680 Speaker 1: next time, I'm going to get this one, not this one. 1329 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,599 Speaker 1: And exactly, yes, you are doing It's like your wire cutter, right, 1330 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,720 Speaker 1: buying is like a gateway to selling. Whoa, yeah, yeah, 1331 01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 1: because it's like you're dipping your toe into the economy. Basically, 1332 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,800 Speaker 1: it's like a slippery slope. You're buying next thing you know, 1333 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:08,240 Speaker 1: you're selling right, needing and getting is about to be 1334 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 1: selling you. Yeah. Well, this has been a sash so 1335 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,519 Speaker 1: lute delight, the best time you guys, thank you so 1336 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,439 Speaker 1: much for doing the pod. Seriously, thank you for having me. 1337 01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 1: It was a major treat. So this is going to 1338 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,160 Speaker 1: be a big one. I can feel it. You can 1339 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,639 Speaker 1: feel it. Make a splash. Let's make a splash. We're 1340 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,559 Speaker 1: gonna make a splash. So many people are scared to 1341 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,800 Speaker 1: make a splash, and even sometimes George and I can 1342 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: get scared. But today we really felt your confidence and 1343 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,120 Speaker 1: your energy and we said, you know what, this girl 1344 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 1: is not afraid of anything. It's so funny you say 1345 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,960 Speaker 1: that because no one would ever know you guys got scared. 1346 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,200 Speaker 1: So it's nice to say that. Just to give its people. 1347 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you, guys, you know what I mean. 1348 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 1: I could it's scared of making a splash. Things underwear 1349 01:19:51,439 --> 01:20:02,760 Speaker 1: make a splash. Bad sho. That's amazing. I was gonna say, 1350 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,479 Speaker 1: that's got to be the end, right Yeah, Okay, And 1351 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:17,840 Speaker 1: seen and seen by