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Speaker 1: It is Monday, November fifth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy I always brought you by Jeholme Loans and

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Speaker 1: now Pete Christo's personal chauffeur J production Assistant. I guess

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Speaker 1: would be maybe a title for that. That is a

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Speaker 1: nice ring to it. J Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: presented by Jet Home Loans, J P Shadrick, Pete Frisco's

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Speaker 1: down in South Florida. Tony Boselli is on the line

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Speaker 1: of New York. Jeff Logumen coming up in studio. Fred

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Speaker 1: Taylor over the phone. We're gonna pack show. Pete. How

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Speaker 1: are you, Bud? I'm good? How are you? JP? Refreshed,

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Speaker 1: relaxed the bye don't talk to me about bye weeks.

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Speaker 1: I do not want to hear anything about bye weeks.

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Speaker 1: I got some nice rest in, you know, slept in.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you want hear anything about bye week because

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Speaker 1: I don't get one. That's why we don't really work ever,

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Speaker 1: So what does it matter do you talk about base? Elli?

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Speaker 1: How many weeks in a row can you not be

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Speaker 1: in the studio working? I thought that I thought we

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Speaker 1: got flexed out today. Oh that was just the Jags about.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was confused. Now you know, you know

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Speaker 1: what it is is, Uh, you just have too many

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Speaker 1: other things going on in your life. That's not Actually

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into this specific so I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna leave leave anyone hanging out to try. But there's

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Speaker 1: a very there's a very good reason why I'm doing

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Speaker 1: the show by phone what i'd usually be doing it

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Speaker 1: by in the studio because I never missed one day

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Speaker 1: step four when I'm in London. And I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to get into why I'm up there right now. You

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Speaker 1: know what I call this an improvement. That's what I

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Speaker 1: call this. You know, I got a lot of I

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Speaker 1: got a lot of tweets last week saying how great

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Speaker 1: the flow was between me and Logiman last week. Great,

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Speaker 1: go for it, said, people said it was. The show

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Speaker 1: was a lot less more subdued last week for some reason.

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Speaker 1: Since you want and god, you guys have my vote

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Speaker 1: a angry Uh, here's what I'm voting for that I

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Speaker 1: voted now you didn't. Here's what's coming to miss me

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Speaker 1: too much? I don't like now, but you still miss me.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up tonight. The second half of the

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Speaker 1: season beginning. Question marks remain for this football team, of course,

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Speaker 1: and we'll go around the National Football League. Like we said,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Flagman coming up in the second hour, the great

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Speaker 1: flow with Pete Prisco will get a lot into that,

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Speaker 1: and then uh, we'll hear from Fred Taylor. Vince Manua

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Speaker 1: passed away. We'll get Fred's take on that and the

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Speaker 1: running back situation for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Could for Nette

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Speaker 1: be back? Well, that's part of the story today. The

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Speaker 1: Jaguars back on the practice field. Leonard for Nette was

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Speaker 1: on the practice field today. Blake Bortles was on the

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Speaker 1: practice field today as well. There was a reported injury

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Speaker 1: to his non throwing shoulder. The big news though, seven

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Speaker 1: back out there. There's no official injury designation today on

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Speaker 1: this Monday. Those will start on Wednesday. But good to

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Speaker 1: see the running back. Maybe could he be back this week? Well,

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Speaker 1: big picture look for this football team for head coach

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Speaker 1: Doug Marone, he's looking at himself at the bye week

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Speaker 1: and trying to get this team turned around. Well, I

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Speaker 1: get back to a head coach Doug Marone coming up. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that clip, by the way, yeah right, that was outstanding.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was really incul very interesting and you know,

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Speaker 1: you know that that sums up the first half. It

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Speaker 1: does right, four in a row to end before the

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Speaker 1: bye week, and that does kind of summing up. Guys,

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Speaker 1: it's um. You can say a lot of things. You

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Speaker 1: gotta go out there and prove it on Sunday. Now, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at this team right now, there's

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Speaker 1: three and five there, they're they're in they're in third,

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Speaker 1: they're tied for last position. You have to get a

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Speaker 1: division way in the team leading the division. The Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans are on on a six game winning streak, and

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Speaker 1: so you're talking about it must win on Sunday. Were

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Speaker 1: not think you look too far ahead. But and I

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Speaker 1: know we don't like talking about and people probably argue

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Speaker 1: and I don't think you over come back. You we can.

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Speaker 1: You can start looking ahead to April when they draft.

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Speaker 1: People agree, if they have any any illusions or any

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Speaker 1: What we said, must win the last three weeks, guys.

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Speaker 1: And it's not a good team right now. It's not

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Speaker 1: a good team. But I don't think it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: non divisional teams. They got to win the rest of

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Speaker 1: division games for sure if you want any chance. And

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Speaker 1: but there's nothing, I mean, to Pete's point, there's nothing

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Speaker 1: Right where do you start here? This week? There was

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Speaker 1: not any confidence going into the bye week. Maybe they've

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Speaker 1: coming out there. Right What you think? What? Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: are you cooking up at the bye That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like it's tough to to find anything to really like.

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Speaker 1: Are you talking about the ribs and some chicken and

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Speaker 1: some brisket? Sounds good to me? Sounds good to me

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Speaker 1: because that's about all they've got right now. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but getting for net back would be nice. Was anybody else,

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Speaker 1: I'm a difference that I don't know. Was anybody else

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Speaker 1: bothered by the fact that he was at the LSU

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Speaker 1: game on Saturday night? I got other issues. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna bring up Well, you just brought it up, Tony. No,

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Speaker 1: I got other issues. I'm not gonna bring up that one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's I mean, it's just I don't care

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Speaker 1: that he's at tell shoot since by week can do

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Speaker 1: whatever you want. But I mean, it's just there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that aren't good. Looks perceptionalized my opinion,

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Speaker 1: it's not good when your offensive captain has uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: has questions around stuff like that. Right, No, you're a captain.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna sit here in question and the

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Speaker 1: he feels, I don't know what's going on. And I've

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Speaker 1: never had hamstring, So I'll leave it at that. No.

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Speaker 1: So today, um, he did not speak with the media.

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Speaker 1: Today was open he has to talk to him since

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Speaker 1: he's been hurt. Right, Well, you see, there's if you're

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Speaker 1: the captain of the football team and you're in that position,

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Speaker 1: going on with my hamstring. This is why I'm not practicing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing my rehab. I'm trying to get back out

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Speaker 1: there as quickly as I can. When he doesn't talk,

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Speaker 1: So I think he's doing at their service to himself

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Speaker 1: by not speaking. Well, I mean, do you agree, Tony, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, we go to the last what's the

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Speaker 1: matter with you? What do you wand them back for?

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Speaker 1: Because there's something I mean, because it's because I said,

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Speaker 1: I don't like what I always don't like. I don't

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Speaker 1: what his body is like. And I just hate questioning

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Speaker 1: the guy around injuries. I just think. But I think,

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Speaker 1: perceptional wise, in communication wise, there's ways you do think,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're a captains. Well you said the best.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll leave it at what you said. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know me I'm gonna say it, and I'm saying

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Speaker 1: it there. He's he needs to stand up and speak

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Speaker 1: to the media and tell him what's going on. I

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Speaker 1: can't hide from him. There's no reason to hide from him.

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Speaker 1: And thus he's been told from somebody above, which I

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Speaker 1: highly doubt not to talk. Yeah, we'll find out. Let's

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Speaker 1: here to do. You know, the proof isn't being the pudding.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out. We'll find out the second half. They

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Speaker 1: gotta play Indianapolis and they gotta find a way to

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Speaker 1: is with him and then what he can do. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you one thing. You sit fresh legs better, yeah,

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Speaker 1: after sitting out this long, and we'll see if not

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Speaker 1: now win right, I mean, you gotta do it after

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Speaker 1: the bye. You gotta do it at a Vision game

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Speaker 1: on the road. We'll see what happens there. Defensively for

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Speaker 1: this Jaguars team, where can the tweaks come and they're

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Speaker 1: losing Dante Fowler? Of course? What will that do for

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Speaker 1: this Jaguars defense? How do they overcome that feat? What's

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Speaker 1: one sack? I mean let's not get over the let's

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Speaker 1: not let's not lose their minds. Get one tack on

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Speaker 1: the year. I mean, I don't. I mean it's okay, great.

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Speaker 1: I mean I remember everyone's like, oh the Rams. I

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Speaker 1: mean like, okay, did he did he do anything? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nothing pass press or no? Okay, time for the run game.

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Speaker 1: By the way, what's that they did? Time him to

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Speaker 1: play the run? No? But but tony uh. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a good move. That's I think it's a great

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Speaker 1: good move for the Rams to try and amp up

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Speaker 1: a pass rush from the edge. It's not very good.

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Speaker 1: I want to give up, I think. But I don't

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Speaker 1: care what the Rams did or didn't do. I think

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Speaker 1: they'll be fine. I mean, little La laurentto McCrae open

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Speaker 1: be the guy who rotates in there with god boy,

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Speaker 1: he'll be the third down stub rush. Sure you can

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Speaker 1: you know, take guys around and do some different things

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Speaker 1: and get different books. I don't think it affects this

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Speaker 1: defense overall in the big in the big, same at

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Speaker 1: all defense has I mean, but what needs to change

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Speaker 1: though to your question, JP, is this. This defense needs

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Speaker 1: to get back to where their pressure in the quarterback

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Speaker 1: and affect them quarterback. And they're not doing that consistently

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Speaker 1: right now. You can't do it without a lead, Tony

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Speaker 1: leag You know when you have third and uh seven plus,

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Speaker 1: you can do it. Sure, what if they had that?

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Speaker 1: You want to go back to the stilly game and

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Speaker 1: go through it? Let's go. I don't have the descript

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Speaker 1: five minutes and he's got him going. Keep con I

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Speaker 1: mean you want to go through. I mean you're saying

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Speaker 1: this team never gets third and long. What I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is that it's better to have the lead to let

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Speaker 1: that pass rush Goo lose too. So this is what

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Speaker 1: I love. I love. I love this narrative. So let's

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Speaker 1: play everything on the offense. That's not what I said.

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Speaker 1: It would be nice. There's no responsibility on the defense.

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Speaker 1: There's everything here is like everything here is like the

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Speaker 1: offense to this that what is it? This is a

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Speaker 1: great defense, which I think it has the potential to

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Speaker 1: be great, and they have great players, they would happen.

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Speaker 1: Well what is your problem? You're telling me everything's gonna

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Speaker 1: be all right if we get well, what is the problem.

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Speaker 1: What's the problem? Come on, what's the problem. It's not

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Speaker 1: just one guy. Ever. In the run game, you have

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Speaker 1: to give your fifth tight end when he balking tight

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Speaker 1: ends just walking the end, not physical at all. You

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Speaker 1: can't hold the point one on one. I agree that's

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Speaker 1: a problem, but but the line you might as well

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Speaker 1: try and get better at that spot. Walker looks like

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Speaker 1: a guard masquerading as a tackle. Does he not okay, Pete,

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Speaker 1: do you listen? I hate seeing the guy who was

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Speaker 1: beat the offensive line that we're really hard for Eric

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Speaker 1: Flower's but we need it to me. You watched the tape, Pete. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a bad group right now. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to deny it. And but hold on, you have Eric Flowers.

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Speaker 1: He's not good. He's not good. They spent a top

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Speaker 1: ten pick on him, and in two years they've spent thirty,

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Speaker 1: you know, fifteen million dollars a year on another guy

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Speaker 1: moving to the right tackle and then come up. But

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Speaker 1: the league where it's hard to find big people who

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Speaker 1: can play. So what is the solution up front? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, all you can do is play with the

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Speaker 1: guys you got, and they gotta get better, be more physical.

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Speaker 1: We gotta work together. Maybe, you know, look at what

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Speaker 1: you're doing to you know, I'm sure they used the

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Speaker 1: bye week to look at different concepts. Are they better

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Speaker 1: or maybe maybe they're better at gap team and maybe

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Speaker 1: go back to run a more power football. Maybe this

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Speaker 1: is what the place does a better better job and

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Speaker 1: get away from the inside outside zone stuff, or maybe

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Speaker 1: it's vice versa. I mean, you have a lot of

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Speaker 1: data and a lot of analytics, go back and run,

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Speaker 1: you know, look at that and make an adjustment and

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Speaker 1: find I would go find the one or two things

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Speaker 1: I did really will and focus on that. And what

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Speaker 1: do you think, Well, Tony, what do you think if

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Speaker 1: you're the haven't haven't I mean listen when you I mean,

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Speaker 1: how many times did they run the ball last two weeks?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to evaluate the run game. Come on, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean I'm not. I

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Speaker 1: mean they have a whole analysts department of people in

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Speaker 1: there that break down the numbers, look at the numbers,

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Speaker 1: make your best judgment, go with That's what I would do.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here is after you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna sit from the chief season. We'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what I think they do better, what they don't. But

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, you know, tight ends got

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Speaker 1: to play better. They can't block anybody, so it's hard.

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Speaker 1: James Shaughnessy was back in the practice field today though,

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Speaker 1: just a heads up, that's a that's an upgrade. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: anybody's an upgrade for the way those guys have been blocking.

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Speaker 1: It's not like o. Shaun's a huge blocker anyway, but

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Speaker 1: you know he's a guy on the depth. You made

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Speaker 1: decisions when you look at here's a question you went

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Speaker 1: into the season. You want to be a power running tea.

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Speaker 1: Here three tight ends are O'Shaughnessy, Safarian Jenkins, and now

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Speaker 1: it's Paul. Which one of those are running a blockers one?

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Speaker 1: So I mean this is a decision if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be a running tea when you want to play a

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Speaker 1: twelve person No, you need more tight ends. You need

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Speaker 1: to bucking guys. That's why I go back, and we

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Speaker 1: asked the question earlier. Jeff brought it up by first

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Speaker 1: is why do you not resign Lewis as a blocking

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Speaker 1: tight end? Do you see the Packers last night had

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Speaker 1: four tight ends on the field at one point, and

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Speaker 1: he was four tight ends in the roster and he

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Speaker 1: was one of them. But I'm not trying. I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to be overable. You asked what you can do now? Well,

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Speaker 1: you're limited now what you can do because you made

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Speaker 1: decisions and again and then those decisions are magnified by injuries.

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Speaker 1: I'm not putting it all on any one person. I'm

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Speaker 1: not blaming that anyone. I'm saying it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: And like if you put a line in there, you

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Speaker 1: know that's basically telling everybody's going to be a run

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Speaker 1: play almost Well, they tried to do that, shout. I

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Speaker 1: don't think shot is the right guy. Shot is not

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Speaker 1: long enough? Which guy should do it? If you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it that you wanted a guy like that? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And Eric Cloward's will be a tight end long and

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Speaker 1: Josh Walker could be a tight end. You want people

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Speaker 1: length being that tight end because Shatley is not long,

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Speaker 1: not a long player, so you know the length you know,

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Speaker 1: hurts him a little bit. Mhm. Man, that's depressing this

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Speaker 1: offensive talk at the bye week, but it's not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's not things you can do, but

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Speaker 1: I mean this is where you I mean, it's easy

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Speaker 1: to coach when everything's going your way. This is where

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Speaker 1: you're digging into off season. Do some man, do some work,

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Speaker 1: do some projects. Look at what you do. Well, there's

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Speaker 1: there's stuff they've done. Well, do you build on it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care if it's one play. Let's

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Speaker 1: say it's one play you do well, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: build on that play. Let's figure different formations we can

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Speaker 1: run out and what we can do differently with that?

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Speaker 1: What why do we do that play? Well? All right?

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Speaker 1: What else can we incorporate with that? It's not all bad.

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Speaker 1: It just feels all bad right now, but it's not.

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Speaker 1: What's what's the best run play they've had in the

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Speaker 1: last two years? Is what? Well? It depends who's in

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Speaker 1: there with Leonard. They're better off. They're better power football team,

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Speaker 1: running power, you know, you know, getting a double team

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Speaker 1: on the front side pulling the card, right, do that

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Speaker 1: you need to tight end? Tight end? Right? They don't

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Speaker 1: have that? Yeah, like to play against Pittsburgh where they

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Speaker 1: kicked the guard out and right, it's hard to find

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the season. Impossible to find. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it's not they're not they're not available and they're not

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Speaker 1: coming to the Jaguars. Hey, Tony, I enjoyed Boston first off,

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Speaker 1: and we will uh, we'll catch you from the from

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Speaker 1: Hindesfield booth on Thursday night, Thursday Night football. The Steelers

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Speaker 1: who they have this week, Panthers. It's a good game.

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Speaker 1: Can you can you guys call can you call me back?

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Speaker 1: At the last five minutes the show so I can

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Speaker 1: listen to the Monday night the preview. Yeah, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: just mad. I'm just mad that we don't get um

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Speaker 1: your promos for Westwood One. Well next week coming back, Okay, alright,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on JP. How's it going? Boston Pizza

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Speaker 1: You know? I knew Pete was on here. Man, I

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Speaker 1: I talk. Yeah, we kick off after the bye week.

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Speaker 1: You know better than that. You know I never started

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Speaker 1: better than Fred Deller, Okay, because he's not. You know

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Speaker 1: You're the blueprint, you know. And uh, Frank has endured

634
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: a whole lot of his share as injuries, and he's

635
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: tough as can be. He's tough as hell, you know,

636
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: and he's showing it. I like to think I'm more explosive,

637
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: and I've done some great things. But I think Frank's

638
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: decided back to Yeah, he just has to be in

639
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, but not before you. Sorry, We'll

640
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: see how goes. You know. We're gonna do a deep dive,

641
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, and hopefully the voters are willing to do

642
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: a deep dive and figure out the teams I faced,

643
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: the defenses we faced. Not me, but we faced. Uh,

644
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: just just a whole lot of stuff, the stats inside

645
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: and out, you know, look at the guys that are

646
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame that we went up against,

647
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: all that different stuff that they'll sort it out. I

648
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: didn't worry. I might not get in next year, two

649
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: years from now. At some point, I may just even

650
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: be the first Jaguar who knows me or both overtake

651
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: or figure it out. By the way, for running back

652
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: to gett in the Hall of Fame, he's got to

653
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: have a pretty good offensive line. And earlier yesterday Vince

654
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: Manaway passed away thirty eight years of age. He was

655
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: a big part of your success here in Jacksonville, fred

656
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: what are your best memories events? Oh man, rest easy,

657
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: big fella. It hurt me so bad yesterday. JP to

658
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: hear that news. Uh talking to Mojo, h Uh, Greg Jones,

659
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: album pier In and coach Pola. We're all talking interday.

660
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: And it's just the spirit, Vince the spirit. You know

661
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: people some people around the building call them lazy. That's

662
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: the the meanor that you know. He probably carried sometimes,

663
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: but when he got on the field, he was so

664
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: far from lazy. He was a maler. You know. He

665
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: give his left arm, you know, if you needed it,

666
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, may have been. And Uh,

667
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: I would just say, brother, are you ready? Of course

668
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm ready, brother, anything for Freddie, you know. And uh,

669
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: he would be the first to scrape guys off the pile.

670
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: Either come and pick me up from under the pile.

671
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: And I can tell you Vince crap and reach down

672
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: to get me off that ground. Every single play, every

673
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: time I got a tackle, he was in the vicinity,

674
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: he reached to pick me up. And just thinking about

675
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: that yesterday when I heard the news, that brought a

676
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: tear of mindes. Just that simple gesture right there is

677
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: kind of what caught me up in the whole entire

678
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: moment of yesterday. Um. But he's a great person, very likable,

679
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: never meant any harm to anybody. Definitely a real dog

680
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: and mean, you know, he wasn't even like a mean

681
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: guy on the field. He just did his work. He

682
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna apologize to you, but he just did his work.

683
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: And he wasn't necessarily nice. He played within the rules

684
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: of the game, but he was he was hard man

685
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: and he was very He was one of the best

686
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: guards in Jaguars history. And in my opinion, yeah, people,

687
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: where does he rank, like when when he was playing

688
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: of other guys in the league, where where would you

689
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: kind of put man on on? He was he was

690
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: one of the top you know, when he was playing,

691
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: he was one of the top ten guards in the league.

692
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. And he's

693
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: clearly one of the best in Jaguars history. You know,

694
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: the guy was a maller in the run game. I

695
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: mean that's what he was. He was tough, he was

696
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, Fred mentioned it, I love the brother. I

697
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: loved you. I saw your quote, I love brother. You

698
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: know that the Hawaiians they talked like that when you

699
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: know when they talked you guys. It was funny because

700
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: he always said that to you, always say brother, brother, right,

701
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: and that what it was. Yeah, Naoli Uh. Big Events

702
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: brought brother uh for ma to my father when he

703
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: was in Jacksonville. So you know the some mo and

704
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: that the culture even coach Polo that culture man and

705
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: just good people, genuine from the heart, never disrespectful. You know,

706
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: it's their culture. They believe in positiveness, energy and love

707
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: man and and so much passion and everything they're doing.

708
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: I can't forget Chad or Chad either. Oh so Chad

709
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: Uh he's another another some more and Broda that was

710
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: a good guy. So rest easy. Big Events man definitely

711
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: will be missed, no doubt. We need some positive energy

712
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: around this offense right now. Fred Um Leonard for Nette

713
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: was back in the practice field today. Seemed like a

714
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: good sign, didn't talk in the locker room today and

715
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: they don't have to do a report until later in

716
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: the week. But if not now, when right? Yeah, you

717
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: know I always go back to my second year JP

718
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: with that hamstring. It's tough. Hamstrings are tough there, unpredictable.

719
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: I think the best thing you can do for yourself.

720
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: I can't even answer win, I hope just now, but

721
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: the win, I don't know. Right, it's up to him.

722
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: He has to feel he has to be mentally in there,

723
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: because I do know one thing, you can't straddle in

724
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: this game, the NFL, that business out there with those

725
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: other grown men that are trying to take your head off.

726
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: You can't straddle. You can't be one ft in one

727
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: ft out. That just cause for injury yourself. So you

728
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: gotta be a dent in it. So when it when

729
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: his mindset is there, that's the win, and hopefully for

730
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: for the team. It's now, I don't know, hopefully it's gone,

731
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: and hopefully he can burst into all the things they

732
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: need to do to get get the job done. When

733
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: you hurt your hamstring and that you're sucking your what

734
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: game was that? When you heard it? You know, I

735
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: believe I got hurt in the Carolina game. We were

736
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: in Carolina, if I'm not mistaking, and yeah, I just

737
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: felt a little tweak right behind the knee, right there

738
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: behind the knee, and uh, I don't know, it just

739
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: felt it felt like it was just something simple like

740
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: no big, you know, nothing big at all. But that

741
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: was my very first hamstring injury ever in my entire life.

742
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: And it happened. Then, you know, I thought I can

743
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: go through the next week of practice that was that

744
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: didn't go well, missing days, missing games, and in and

745
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: out of the lineup, and it was just all bad.

746
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: Definitely the most frustrating, uh time in my life during

747
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 1: my career because I was in and out of the lineup.

748
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: It's easier, Pete, I think, just to have an injury

749
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: so you're out four to six weeks, you know, mc

750
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: l or PCL or scope or whatever the those type

751
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: things ligament damage. But we have those soft tissue injuries, growings, hamstrings, biceps,

752
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff you just never know, you never know,

753
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: and is it is it's almost unfair to the player.

754
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: Right that we were out there, people are saying, oh,

755
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: why isn't he back, Why can't he get back? And

756
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: you heard that same stuff. It's almost unfair to you guys,

757
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: because we don't know what your body is going through,

758
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: you know what it's it's and once, yeah, it's it

759
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: is unfair. Let me just say that, because you don't

760
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: know the person and what they're going through mentally, what

761
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: their focus is, and a lot of times that will

762
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: usually lose to this guy isself. Right, Yeah, you just

763
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: don't know. But I think the thing that a player

764
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: can have isn't it And his defense is if he's

765
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: on time to his training sessions or his rehab sessions,

766
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: if the training stamp staff, if they think he's doing

767
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: everything in his power that he can to get back,

768
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: if he's there, you know, before the hens, the roosters,

769
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: what the roosters do they right? Yeah, okay, so before

770
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: you know, early in the morning is what I'm trying

771
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: to say. I was in the building six thirty, you know,

772
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: seven o'clock before the eight o'clock meeting, trying to get

773
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: myself together. So it all depends on the players. Uh,

774
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: you know, they're disciplined in there their rehab and their

775
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: approach and trying to get back, you know, So that

776
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: goes a long way. So if a guy isn't in it,

777
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: then you can kind of say, well, this guy, he's

778
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: just not the right material. He's not what we thought

779
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: he was. I gotta call other day about dlvin cooking

780
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. He has been trying to force the coaches

781
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: to put him out there. They're telling him, young man,

782
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: sit down. But he's a guy who's doing everything and

783
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: his will to get out there. You know, he wanted

784
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: to be out there this week and they had to

785
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: make a decision to limit him. But that's the type

786
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: of attitude you need, a guy who's trying to break

787
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: his tail to get out there, not the opposite. And

788
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: you know what you're saying right there. That leads me

789
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: to where I've I've some of the things I've heard

790
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: that maybe for Net isn't that guy, which is, you

791
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: only have so many earning years in your body, Fred,

792
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: You know that you only have so many games to

793
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: get out there and play the game. And if you

794
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: love the game, I'm with you, do everything in your power.

795
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: If you've got to be there at six o'clock, get

796
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: there at six o'clock. Does it bother you? As a

797
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: former player and everything to see him on the sidelines

798
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: at l s U when you're supposed to be doing

799
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: going through rehabbing stuff. Does that bother you? You know?

800
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: It does? I mean we lived that We I've lived

801
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: that life, you know, I've it was it was a Saturday.

802
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: You know, he has a personal life. It doesn't mean

803
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: he didn't do his rehab. I mean he's only at

804
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: the game. What is that four or five hour window?

805
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: Five hour window at max? I mean you can fly

806
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: there and go there. You can fly there and get

807
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: there at nighttime. I mean, I mean, I don't know

808
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: if he was in Jacksonville's I don't know how they're week,

809
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: their bye week schedule was and all of that. If

810
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: he if that was part of their off time usually

811
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: in a bye week, it is, you know what I mean.

812
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: So he could have been home already. Who knows. I don't.

813
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't know where he was. But you know, until

814
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: his defense, I can say, I can say it doesn't

815
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: bother me temply because I mean, your personal time is

816
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: your personal time. We don't know what he's done. We

817
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: didn't see his entire twenty four hours, you know what

818
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean, So he could have done rehab, went to

819
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: the game, went back and done rehab, or he couldn't

820
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: have done it. I mean, I don't know, right, so

821
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: I can't make a call or base judgment on seeing

822
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: the matter game. UH, but I do think that these

823
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: guys should be UH should understand that their earning potential

824
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: is great, but the window is small. So you want

825
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: to try and maximize such you know, UH as as

826
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: best as you can, and UH do everything and your

827
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: power that you can to make it happen. Okay, Fred,

828
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time today. Thanks for the memories on Vince.

829
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for the insight to the for net in the

830
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: running situation. It's always good to talk to you, budd,

831
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you later this week. Get him

832
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: in the hall, Get him in the hall. Hey, that's

833
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: that's where we're at right now. I'll talk to you later.

834
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: J P. Pete. Always a pleasure. We catch up on

835
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: lost holds or something. Man, you bet, you bet, and

836
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: play some golf. We gotta play some golf one of

837
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: these days too. Golf. Man, my back on fire. Oh god, hey,

838
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: I can't play too after season. Get your back right,

839
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: we'll go play golf alright, guy. That foresome Pete Prisco,

840
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor and fill in the blanks. We'll come back.

841
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: We'll go around the a f C South Jeff log

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Speaker 1: way off to the right, and uh were the Texans

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Speaker 1: Well not only that though, um, yeah, the Texans are

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Speaker 1: playing better football, particularly on the offensive line, which has

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Speaker 1: get closer to get a more makeable field goal, and

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Speaker 1: missed it. It was it was a bad decision by

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Speaker 1: the head coach to make that. It's a fifty one

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Speaker 1: it's in Denver, right, and this guy just got paid right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta make the kick, but why not make it

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Speaker 1: easier on him? Though? Am I wrong? I mean he

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Speaker 1: But well, if he got ten more yards he would

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Speaker 1: down thirteen ten um and then left the ball there.

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Speaker 1: Always some time left to the clock in the Texans

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Speaker 1: coaching decisions an issue in Denver. It sounds like the

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Speaker 1: Titans play tonight. We'll get to Monday night, the full

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Speaker 1: preview coming up. But both of these teams, Titans, Cowboys

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Speaker 1: need this ball game tonight, both teams at three and

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Speaker 1: four p Yeah. I think this is an enormous game

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Speaker 1: for for both of these teams and both of these

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks JP. I mean you talk about you know, people

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Speaker 1: want to kill mari I mean Winston and whatever. But

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Speaker 1: at best, but now he has a new toy and

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Speaker 1: Marie Cooper to be interesting to see how they use them.

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Speaker 1: But big game for both these teams. You know, the

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Speaker 1: loser goes to three and five. Uh, they have big problems.

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Speaker 1: So it should be a hard, tough, physical game, probably

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Speaker 1: low scoring UH, and a lot of a lot of running.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at um, you know, Jerry Jones JP,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna probably run run that, uh, run that fun

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Speaker 1: and try and get the ball to Cooper to make

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Speaker 1: himself look at But we'll talk more about that when

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Speaker 1: we prove your Monday Night. But I think this is

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Speaker 1: one of those Titans are in trouble here, and like

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, they have major issues. Yeah, if the Titans fall,

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Speaker 1: there's three and five and guess what, that's three three

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Speaker 1: and five teams in the division all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: if that happens. And and the Texans who looked like

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Speaker 1: they were dead. Um, you know, remember Frank Wright gave

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Speaker 1: him the game and it was gonna go to the

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Speaker 1: And now look at them, there's six and three. They

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Speaker 1: can't lose all of a sudden, um, And they're hot.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else is not. And of course the big matchup

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Speaker 1: next week, the Jags and the Colts coming up Sunday

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the division. Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: a big win. It's a big game for both those teams.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the team that's win stays alive. The team

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Speaker 1: that loses is probably done. And the Colts. You know,

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Speaker 1: the interesting thing about Colts, JP, they're playing much better

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. They haven't given up a sack

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Speaker 1: in fifteen quarters. How about that? Really, that's incredible because

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Speaker 1: that's in the storyline for three years on these That's

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Speaker 1: why they got Luck hurt, right, they had help, not

982
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: not not giving up a sack of fifteen quarters is incredible.

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00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a tough challenge for Jacksonville's defense.

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00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: I mean again, Tony keeps talking about defense playing better

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00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: we'll see, because they're playing Andrew Luck in an offensive line,

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Speaker 1: it's much better. Who have they played the lad Let's see,

988
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: they played the Raiders. Okay, you can't rush the past, right,

989
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: they let the best one in football maybe go, second

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00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: best one in football go? The Bills are the Bills

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Speaker 1: they beat? Well, they got some you know, Jerry use

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Speaker 1: can rush the pastor, but they did beat them. And

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Speaker 1: who is the New York Jets? New York Jets are

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Speaker 1: pretty good now. They don't rush the pastor that well though,

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Speaker 1: either from the outside. But but yeah, I mean, for

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Speaker 1: the fact, I don't care who the Cults are playing,

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Speaker 1: the fact that their offensive line hasn't given up a

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Speaker 1: sack in fifteen quarters is pretty incredible. Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 1: No matter who it is. That's right, nfl um, especially

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Speaker 1: with that group the way it's going. You know, what's

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Speaker 1: your early feel on Jack's cults this week? Something tells

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Speaker 1: me jackson was gonna win the game. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know how though. I think they're gonna pound them, just

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00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: pound the rock, yea, yea, and they'll play good defense.

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Speaker 1: I think the defense is gonna take it ill to say,

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Speaker 1: but I don't you know the lines? What is the line?

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Speaker 1: The early line is Indie minus three. So they think

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00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: they're even teams then because they give them three points

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00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: the field ability. Hey, this Colts team is getting better

1010
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: and luck playing good ball. But here's the other thing.

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00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: Go three tight ends, you can catch touchdowns. But here's

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00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: the other thing. Jp they're getting better, but they're not

1013
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: might not be getting better for this year, but they're

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00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: gonna be better, really good next year. That's not you know. Look,

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00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: their quarterback issue is solved, done finished over. Jacksonville is not,

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Speaker 1: you know, and Tennessee is not, and the Texans are.

1017
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: So the two teams that have the quarterback issue solved

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00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: are the ones that have the advantage in division. So

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00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: when was was this last year? Remember we're thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: the situation for the Jaguars quarterback, it was Watson was

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Speaker 1: banged up, Andrew Luck hasn't played in two years, and

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Speaker 1: Mariota was really bad. Mariota stinks right Well, that's that's changed.

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00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles is struggling, Andrew Luck is carrying a team again,

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Speaker 1: although he's getting more help around them now. Watson has

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00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: a good team around him. He wasn't great yesterday, but

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00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: and he's got some hopkins who can make plays. And

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00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: then you got Jacksonville whose offense is a disaster. There's

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00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: no other way to label the offense. It's a disaster.

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Speaker 1: And they've had a ton of injuries. They haven't scored

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Speaker 1: a first half touchdown in a month. But think about it,

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Speaker 1: j P. On the surface, they've had a ton of injuries,

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Speaker 1: but they have a quarterback who can't play above the injuries.

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Speaker 1: If those injuries happen in Green Bay or or Dandy

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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, because he's had a bunch

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Speaker 1: of them too, they that he can rise above that.

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Speaker 1: Mortals can't. He needs everything around him to go perfectly royal,

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Speaker 1: and it's just not happening. Alright, Pete, thirty seconds. Give

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Speaker 1: me your meaningless power rankings in the division, please, sir.

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Speaker 1: One Texans to Cults, three Titans for Jackonville. All right,

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Speaker 1: what's that? What's happened? By the way, We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Carlos Hide on tonight Jaguars All like and I gotta

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Speaker 1: say good evening, Pete. What's up, Jeff? But by the way,

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of TELPISLI I got a lot

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Speaker 1: of little tweets last week saying how much nicer it

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Speaker 1: was me and you on here instead of him. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we've got a lot more accomplished. We don't argue

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Speaker 1: as much as you you are. Do you argue with

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Speaker 1: him on on Thursday when you're on with him? Maybe

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Speaker 1: sometimes we do, But for the most part, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to argue with me. Now he usually doesn't want to.

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Speaker 1: I just somehow light the fire, you know how that goes.

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Speaker 1: It's easy, doesn't take much at all with him. What

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01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: was the one time, the last the last argument we had,

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01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: Pete Tony was trying to tell me about an RPO,

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: was trying to like explain to me what the definition

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Speaker 1: of r p O was or is. And I can't

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Speaker 1: remember exactly how it went, but somehow or another, it's like,

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Speaker 1: that's not an rp O. That's it's got that's a pass.

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01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Okay, run pass option. Let's see what the

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Speaker 1: definition of RPO is. Had to explain that to him,

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Speaker 1: and it's like elementary stuff. Sometimes he gets and he

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Speaker 1: gets so flushed it when he's wrong. That's the best

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Speaker 1: part of it. Oh and and here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: He actually Pete. A couple of years ago, I made

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Speaker 1: a comment that as a team and you can comment

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Speaker 1: on this, And I heard this this morning because he

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Speaker 1: you know him, Yeah, I know him. And the comment

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Speaker 1: was brought up to him about possibly drafting a quarterback

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Speaker 1: every year, and Joe is my witness. Didn't me, Okay,

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Speaker 1: didn't I say that a couple of years ago? And

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Speaker 1: I got I got ripped both. How can you say

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Speaker 1: that you draft a quarterback every year? And then so

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Speaker 1: they say to him this morning, you know what he says,

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Speaker 1: I have to agree with that. Yeah, I said that.

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Speaker 1: I've been I'm with you, Jeff, I said that all

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Speaker 1: along I would draft one a year. He got to,

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Speaker 1: you always do. You might get lucky, especially when you

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Speaker 1: Famer in the sixth round, like some certain franchise did

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Speaker 1: in New England. Right. That's it's amazing watching him and uh,

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Speaker 1: watching that game last night, I tried to stay awake

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Speaker 1: for the whole thing. It didn't happen, but from what

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Speaker 1: I did see staying awake was a tremendous football game

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Speaker 1: and it's very clear that those two are simply two

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Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league. But I think

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Speaker 1: it also further illustrates the greatness of Bill Belichick as

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Speaker 1: a coach. He's unbelievable. That was that was the difference

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Speaker 1: in the game with his Yes, And here's the thing, Pete,

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Speaker 1: isn't it always the difference for the most part a

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Speaker 1: great quarterback and you don't have one then, but everything

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Speaker 1: else is pretty even. There's there's other great quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the league. But when you when you when you if

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Speaker 1: you were to look at the Patriots roster, Pete and

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Speaker 1: be honest, to look at them and say, okay, let's

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Speaker 1: take the quarterback out of the equation. Let's look at

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Speaker 1: their roster and compare apples to apples compared to the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars roster, compared to any other team roster. And yes,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback separates that roster, there's no question. But the

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Speaker 1: coaching also separates that roster because he allows those players

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01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: to do things that they do best. They all have

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Speaker 1: a role, and I think that's the most impressive thing

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Speaker 1: of all at all of all, and they don't make mistakes,

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Speaker 1: and that's coaching. The least penalized team in football. But

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Speaker 1: but he also takes for example, James White on another

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Speaker 1: team would be a third down back who come in

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Speaker 1: and do they but the way they use their players,

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Speaker 1: He's great at taking what they do and making it.

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Speaker 1: You know, Okay, I'll give you another example Patterson. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I look at Patterson. One day I was at Viking example,

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Speaker 1: Zimmer and Patterson is returning kicks and he's jogging right,

1204
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Speaker 1: He's going through the motions. And I looked at Zimer,

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Speaker 1: I go, how do you put up with that garbage?

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Speaker 1: And he goes, ah, some days he's good, some days

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Speaker 1: he's man, you know, and everything well, you know what happens.

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Speaker 1: They get rid of him obviously, then he ends up

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Speaker 1: in New England. What do they do? They washed the

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Speaker 1: stink off of them, right, the stink of his career

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Speaker 1: has gone, and now he's a contributor, not a major contributor,

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Speaker 1: but they found a way to make him a contributor.

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Speaker 1: That's what Belichick does because he finds what players do best,

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Speaker 1: and then he capitalizes and utilizes that correct. Patterson is

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Speaker 1: for the most part a bust as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I mean for the most part correct. Okay, So if

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Speaker 1: he can't catch and he can't run routes, but he's dynamic,

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Speaker 1: so let's hand him the ball instead of making him

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Speaker 1: try to catch the ball and use him as a

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Speaker 1: return man and as use them as a returnment. And

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Speaker 1: it's worked in and it's just, uh, you know, the

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Speaker 1: experience that we had Pete up there watching them and

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Speaker 1: how they go about their business and training camp was

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Speaker 1: an eye opener for me two preseasons ago. It was

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Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Yeah, it was. It was. It was an

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Speaker 1: absolute eye opener for me, and to see how their

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Speaker 1: practice went, but also to see the hardest part, Peter,

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Speaker 1: and you know this, you've watched a lot of NFL practices.

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Speaker 1: When you when you see how Special Teams operates, that's

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Speaker 1: always an indicator of me of saying, if the Special

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Speaker 1: Teams is running mistake free and very organized, which the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars do a pretty good job with Jodi Camills, but

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Speaker 1: this what what the Patriots do as a whole different

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Speaker 1: level with I think his name is Joe Judge as

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Speaker 1: a Special Teams coordinator. But we all knew why that

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Speaker 1: that happens is because that's the demands of Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: as a coach. Because the Jaguars coaches would be out

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Speaker 1: on the field's first year with Joe D. Camillis as

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Speaker 1: a special teams coordinator that year, but when the Patriots

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Speaker 1: called for the second punt return team, they weren't looking

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Speaker 1: out there. It was just amazing to me how everybody

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Speaker 1: was so clean on assignments and where they had to be,

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Speaker 1: what they had to do, what the depth chart was.

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Speaker 1: The coaches were on the field going, hey, where's John,

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Speaker 1: Hey Joe, let's go. It's third punt return. They didn't

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Speaker 1: have that happen because they do that up there. They're gone, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean everybody, it's the expectation and and then and

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Speaker 1: then it filters down into the guys that are good

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Speaker 1: those guys. Brady works as hard as anybody, so it

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Speaker 1: the don we'll have a real problem. Okay, Jeff VASSELLI

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Speaker 1: will get to know Jeff when you will start name calling.

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, when you is that a name? I'm

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Speaker 1: Oh God, don't go there. He's called the Oshana because

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Speaker 1: peace jealous of you know, that thing's gone. That was

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Speaker 1: a long time ago, Hey, Jeff. But when you read

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Speaker 1: books about Belichick, and I've read everyone, I love reading

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Speaker 1: about the guy. I'm fascinated by the detail. You go

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Speaker 1: into it and you go, Okay, that's why he is

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Speaker 1: this way. That's why he's that way. You can just

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Speaker 1: back in the day in New York, they used to

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Speaker 1: call him Doom because he was the gloom and Doom

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Speaker 1: and that he's still kind of that way, right, But

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Speaker 1: they all marveled at the detail and and what he

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Speaker 1: knew from the time he walked into that building as

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Speaker 1: the field. I think the greatest thing that he has

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Speaker 1: that helps him with that, I guess making sure that

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Speaker 1: the message filters throughout the team. You have a guy

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Speaker 1: like Tom Brady who is totally on board with everything

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Speaker 1: to Bill Belichick says publicly. Now privately maybe things are different,

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Speaker 1: But publicly Brady always says the right things about team,

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Speaker 1: first team, first team, first team, first And I think

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Speaker 1: when you have a great player who plays that position,

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Speaker 1: who echoes what the head coach says, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's amazing how far that that can go. When you

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Speaker 1: is over top of him, that on the football side

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Speaker 1: echoes and embraces everything that he says. Makes a difference. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you follow. They follow the guy who's great. Whatever he

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Speaker 1: does is the way they'll follow. And it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: And look, Tom Brady doesn't love Bill Belichick, make no

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Speaker 1: mistake about it. And you mentioned it, Jeff, Privately, he

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Speaker 1: would probably tell you he's tired of being berated all

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Speaker 1: the time and beat down all the time. But he

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Speaker 1: respects them. And that's all you need from your quarterback

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Speaker 1: and your coaches is respect. And I think it's mutual.

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Speaker 1: They know it. Hey logs, JP, Hey fix the offense please. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good luck with that. I thought you guys already did

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Speaker 1: that in the first hour we were waiting for you

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Speaker 1: second hour. Uh, fix the offense. Where do you start? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, how do you jump started? You know

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Speaker 1: what is what is the offense done well so far

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Speaker 1: this year? In other games? You look at the games

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Speaker 1: that they played extremely well, which is the Jets game

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01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: and the Patriots game, and in those games, for quarterback

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Speaker 1: is playing at a very high efficient level. So that

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Speaker 1: has to start with him, I believe, because if your

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Speaker 1: quarterback is not performing at a functional level, I believe

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Speaker 1: that the running game has no chance to succeed because

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Speaker 1: then defense I've always said, defenses can always stop the

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Speaker 1: run if they put enough resources to stop in the run,

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Speaker 1: but they can't. What they can't do is apply resources

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Speaker 1: to stop both things. And so your quarterback has to

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Speaker 1: be able to play well. And if you can run

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Speaker 1: the ball when those resources are fortified defensively to stop

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Speaker 1: the running game, that makes it great. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's not simple, but it is. You've got to

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Speaker 1: be able to run the football effectively, and then the

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Speaker 1: quarterback has to be able to perform efficiently and effectively

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Speaker 1: in the ball game. And I don't say, and I've

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Speaker 1: said this before, that you have to Defenses have to

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Speaker 1: fear or respect your passing game. I don't say fear,

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Speaker 1: but they've got to respect it. And I got the

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Speaker 1: impression right now that the Jaguars offense is doesn't scare anybody.

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Speaker 1: I don't think teams respect it, and I think they're

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Speaker 1: doing a very good job to stop and run. The

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are seeing a lot of man They're seeing a

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Speaker 1: lot of single high coverage. They're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 1: eight men in the box or seven men in the box,

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Speaker 1: depending on if you're in regular personnel or three wide

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Speaker 1: receiver personnel. So it's simple. I mean, the Jaguars need

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Speaker 1: to run the ball better and they need to have

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Speaker 1: better play in their passing game. Now, how they get

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Speaker 1: that in those two areas that's the hard part. But

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Speaker 1: it's not easy in the National Football League. It's not

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Speaker 1: easy to run. The offensive line needs to play better.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that kind of go

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Speaker 1: into making that side of the ball better. And this week,

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Speaker 1: if there was ever a get well week, I would

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Speaker 1: think that it's this against the Indianapolis Colts. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they are they're not a very talented group. They play hard.

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Speaker 1: Give him. I give him a lot of respect because

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Speaker 1: I think Frank Wright because is doing a good job

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Speaker 1: as a head coach. There. They've got a very good quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But defensively, Pete when Jabal shared is arguably your best player,

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Speaker 1: that's not saying a whole lot about their talent level

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Speaker 1: on defense. Well that letterd kid, the rookie is pretty

1346
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Speaker 1: good player too. Darius Leonard. Yeah, he's a good player.

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Speaker 1: He's all right. I mean, come on, let's carried away.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's a linebackerth and he's he's still a rookie,

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Speaker 1: a big deal. No, No, they're not good. They're not

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Speaker 1: good on defense. But you're right. If there's ever a

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Speaker 1: week to get the offense cranked up, this is it.

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Speaker 1: Point me a play out that this rookie linebacker Darius Leonard,

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Speaker 1: who is a second old pick out of South Carolina State. Okay,

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Speaker 1: name me a play that he's changed the game. He

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Speaker 1: asked four sacks, Name me a play that's changed the game.

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Speaker 1: There's I'm sure there's some. That's my point. He's got

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Speaker 1: three force fumbles. Name name you a play that's changed

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Speaker 1: the game going through every game. I mean that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's my point. Like he's a good I'm sure he's

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Speaker 1: a good football player, but I mean, typically the guys

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Speaker 1: which he's got some of those, but has he changed

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Speaker 1: in the game. He's a good player, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 1: Good player is it in a moment, maybe the end

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Speaker 1: of game, you know, or something like that, that kind

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Speaker 1: of impact. I watched the last two games, and fifty

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01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: three shows up as a good player, and but on film, Pete,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't show up as a great player. Great players

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Speaker 1: show up game in and game out, and if they

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Speaker 1: don't show up every game, they at least show up

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Speaker 1: every other game. But he has a chance to be

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Speaker 1: Komochi Terrey, who's a rookie second round pick out Rutgers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got a chance to be good at some point

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Speaker 1: in the future. And Grober Stewart pretty good football player,

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Speaker 1: solid guy, defensive tackle. But I mean, for the most part,

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Speaker 1: they're kind of average guys. And here's the thing. Name

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Speaker 1: me one defensive back you know, besides Malik Hooker that

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Speaker 1: the back end for sure. The corners are really really suspect, no,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Guys, Let's come back. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a contest where you got the

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01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: Look at John Gruden getting ten million dollars a year

1463
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: just in this, I mean, just ripping that team up, man,

1464
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 1: and he's terrible. He's got five first round picks though

1465
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 1: in the next two years. Yeah, I know, Pete. I

1466
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: mean I'm watching I'm watching the Raiders play more than that,

1467
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: watching the Raiders play and versus the Colts today, and

1468
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: I'm watching what they're doing on defense, and I'm going,

1469
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: what are trying to figure out what they're doing? I

1470
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: mean some of the some of the things that they're

1471
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: doing just it is terrible, terrible. Yeah, Like what they

1472
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: ran They ran a man coverage and this is something

1473
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: that I've shown pat capital. They ran man a man

1474
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: and they had single high safety and they're only Russian three.

1475
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: But then they had too linebackers. So you're telling me

1476
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: that Andrew luck is that great of a threat to

1477
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: run and on a third down you're gonna rush three,

1478
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: have two linebackers just spine there's like third and four,

1479
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: so they're never never land. Then the linebackers they're doing

1480
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: nothing right. That's what I mean. I always call that.

1481
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: It's like on Hail Mary's. You see guys that the

1482
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: linebackers in the middle of field. What are they doing

1483
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen yards deep? I mean, do something that's going

1484
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: take a chance? Yeah, one the other we just stand

1485
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: there and go, okaye, not to It's not Michael back,

1486
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: for goodness say exactly I was. I was just there

1487
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: going you gotta be kidding me. Anyway, they're not very good.

1488
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: And offensively they have uh quarterback that is just so

1489
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: hot and cold and he makes some throws that you go,

1490
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: what what was that? Isn't Gruden system a little outdated

1491
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: to when you watch it? I mean like they run

1492
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: out of those ISO routes and there's no bunches and

1493
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: a lot of bunches and picks and rubs. And I'm

1494
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: not an offensive expert. And here here's the thing about

1495
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: whether a scheme can be outdated or not. Does it

1496
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 1: work or does it not. I mean, look, there's some

1497
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 1: there's some schemes. Look, the Jaguars went back and pulled

1498
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: the old scheme out of the playbooks from years ago

1499
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: last year offensively and took it to the n f

1500
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: C title game. I mean, so maybe they need to

1501
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: go get those schemes back out again. Yeah, she saould

1502
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: be nice. And then we got to get the execution

1503
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: back out. That's that's the key, Jeff. Can they fix

1504
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 1: the offense? You know, is it fixable? I mean, the

1505
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: personnel is what it is, right, Yes, it's fixable. How

1506
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: you've got to get the offensive line playing at a

1507
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: better level than what it's been doing. You know, last

1508
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: year you had the offensive line I thought, playing at

1509
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 1: a pretty good level or early in the season, and

1510
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 1: the running game will go pretty well. And then as

1511
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: the running game started to falter later in the season,

1512
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: the play the quarterback started to get better. So offensively,

1513
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: get the offensive line play better and more consistent than

1514
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: everything else. Has an opportunity to succeed when the offensive

1515
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: line plays better. And I know I heard you guys

1516
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: talking earlier that you brought up if I believe it was,

1517
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: you know, do you think about replacing the left tackle

1518
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: Josh Walker and putting Flowers in that's not necessarily the answer.

1519
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 1: I think you gotta worry and make sure that you

1520
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: get everybody else playing better at run blocking, because that's

1521
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: the one thing that Josh Walker can do, and he's

1522
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: given you great effort and energy and his run blocking.

1523
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: He'll struggle when he has to pass block and he

1524
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: has to be in space against a great player. Well,

1525
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: a great player in space is really not gonna happen

1526
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: this week. So I don't think this is the week

1527
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 1: to do that with Eric Flowers. This is the week

1528
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: to get back to getting everybody else to play better

1529
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,839
Speaker 1: and run blocking better. So, but you know, the amazing

1530
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,879
Speaker 1: thing is Peters. If you look at at the numbers,

1531
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 1: the only Jaguar that has over a four point yards

1532
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: per carry is t J. Yeldon and he's barely across

1533
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: it at four point one, I mean four net. Carlos High,

1534
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Wilds, who was obviously not with the team anymore,

1535
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 1: or Grant. Everybody is below four. It's gotta be better.

1536
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Jeff. The tight ends are

1537
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: disaster blocking. What can you do there? Well, I think

1538
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: this week it's gonna be better. When you get O'Shaughnessy back.

1539
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: I mean he's not a you know, he's not a

1540
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: dominant blocking tight end by any means, but he's gonna

1541
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna give you great effort, and he's gonna get

1542
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: in some people's way. I don't think the guy that's

1543
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: kind of a mystery to me at the tight end

1544
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 1: spot because you know, when you when you look at

1545
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: David Greenage and Blake Bell, I mean, these guys look

1546
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: like their man eaters. I mean literally, yeah, big big

1547
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: big One's a former quarterback. Yeah, quarterback is something? Come on, Pete,

1548
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: was he really a quarterback? He was the bull? What

1549
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: was he the bull? He was? He was not a quarterback. Yeah,

1550
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: but at some point in his life he was an

1551
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: actual quarterback who played quarterback. So he has that mentality.

1552
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 1: So what, Pete? I played quarterback too, So what are

1553
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 1: you trying to say? You were soft? Then you were soft,

1554
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: believe it or not. I did Pete all the way

1555
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: until high school? Why did you? Why did you switch?

1556
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: Oh until high school? That doesn't counter play quarterback? In

1557
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: eighth grade? Two? You did? Yeah, eighth grade it was

1558
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: twenty pound team or something. That was a long time ago.

1559
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: Believe me, I played. I called my own plays in

1560
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: eighth grade. You know what I actually did too. And

1561
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: this is this is just a funny story. I think

1562
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: it was the It was a little league lower loud

1563
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: in Little League Okay and Stralian Virginia, and it was

1564
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: the the ram I was. It was like the lower

1565
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 1: league and the rams out of the quarterback man Pete.

1566
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: We ran seventeen sweep and eighteen sweep. The cows came

1567
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: home and then the coach finally took the play calling

1568
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: away from me. Yeah. JP, if you don't know this,

1569
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: the quarterback is the one eight is the whole. Okay,

1570
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: so one eight team that means good quarterback goes to

1571
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: eight whole. This is a true story. When I was

1572
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: in the eighth in eighth grade or seventh grade, we

1573
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: played I was a hundred fifteen. I had to sweat

1574
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: it out to make it every week or league. Yeah,

1575
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 1: and we played this star. We played this all star.

1576
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: He played in the weight league. Yeah. Do you want

1577
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: to talk about soft everybody was in the weight leagues

1578
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: back then. They didn't have I don't know why wasn't

1579
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: in a weight league a legal if we had a

1580
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: three hundred pound guy. You had to tackle him in

1581
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: Pop Warner. Yes, now everything was weight league. No, we

1582
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: didn't have a weight league, Pete, that's what that's because

1583
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: Virginia football wasn't very Where did you play this at

1584
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: in Florida? So anyway, so we played this all star

1585
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: team from Lexting to Kentucky somehow some way. It was

1586
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 1: like after the season, and they waited in after practice

1587
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 1: and they had about four kids that way a hundred

1588
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: thirty after practice, so everybody was in the hundred. So

1589
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: they were bigger kids. So we're playing them. We had

1590
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: no business playing him. They're beating the daylights out of

1591
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: his and one of my wide receiver says, please, I'll

1592
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: pay you if you'd never throw me the football. Yes,

1593
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: like I said, soft, Well, that wasn't me. I got

1594
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: I got beat up that day about that. Jeff, didn

1595
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: you play school football in Virginia and you were probably

1596
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: you probably threw kids around like they were children back then.

1597
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I was. Now, yeah, and when I was when I

1598
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 1: was a junior in high school, I was I think

1599
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: six four one eighty ball. Maybe you were mean. You

1600
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: were that kid that everybody ate it. And then my

1601
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: senior I was six six, strapping two oh five. You

1602
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 1: played baseball too, though, Yeah, and I could. I could

1603
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: play baseball pretty good, but I was I was not

1604
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: a big guy by any means. You were always a kid.

1605
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: If I was a recruiter, you were the kid I

1606
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: would look for because you were six six two or

1607
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: five and you were still good. That means at some

1608
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 1: point you're gonna be six six to seventy five or

1609
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: two sixty five or whatever you were. But Jeff, now

1610
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: these kids, like some days you see this kid, he's

1611
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: six ft six and three pounds and he's throwing little

1612
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: kids around. But then when he gets to play the

1613
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: kids the same size as him, he can't do it anymore.

1614
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: That's true the NFL, though, I mean it's everybody's big.

1615
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: Everybody's big. Pete by the way, and just we've gotten

1616
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: totally off topic. He's sometimes it's good. The Philadelphia Eagles

1617
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 1: tackle that they got from Australia. He's a rugby player. Yeah,

1618
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 1: the left tackle got a chance to see him while

1619
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 1: we were in London. My god, is he a big man?

1620
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: I mean he is. I mean he and here's the thing,

1621
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:01,879
Speaker 1: he's six eight three fifty ish. But you would assume

1622
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: that he's like six six three fifteen, I mean, felt proportionate,

1623
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: but just big. See the highlights of him running with

1624
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: the rugby bull no problem. Did you see him in

1625
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: the preseason when he was playing tackle? He letn't see it.

1626
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: I would really like to when he was inactive. Go

1627
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: go watch his tape from the preseason. There's games where

1628
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: he actually looks like he's going to be a good player.

1629
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: And I believe it. I believe it. I mean, he's

1630
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,959
Speaker 1: obviously got some talent, but man, the size and the proportion.

1631
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 1: You sit there and you go, good, God, here's the thing.

1632
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: What's it gonna stop? I mean really, I mean, Pete,

1633
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 1: when when you first started covering the league, which was

1634
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 1: what year, oh nineteen, first started actually covering the league? Nine? Okay,

1635
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: and so eighty nine, which the same year I came

1636
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: into the league. Okay, in eighty nine, our tackles were

1637
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: ballpark h two eighty guards were two sixty five to

1638
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: two seventy five are center. Jim Sweeney was probably to

1639
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: seventy and and so where did it go? Well, jeff I,

1640
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: I went back to my old high school to see

1641
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: my high school coach. When I was down here one

1642
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: day and they were playing a game and I walked

1643
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: out on the field. I called out him, and he

1644
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: looked over and he recognized me. He brought me out

1645
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: and I looked at his players and I said, oh

1646
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: my god. I mean I played guard night schol was

1647
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,759
Speaker 1: a little kid, but I played. But these kids are enormous, Hue,

1648
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: how come we didn't think about it that from where

1649
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: we were from from in nineteen nine to where it

1650
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: is today. So where is it gonna be another? I mean,

1651
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: six eight three forty nine gonna be the average size

1652
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: when we get into But why, I mean, okay, I

1653
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: could see guys in the NFL, they were in the

1654
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,680
Speaker 1: strength program. Then why are high school kids gigantic? Now?

1655
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: If you walk out to the high school field, Jeff,

1656
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: your six ft four five pounds would have looked like

1657
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,560
Speaker 1: a slender wide receiver nowadays, I would have been a

1658
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: lot out for a tight end. You'd have been a

1659
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: tight end and maybe they could pad you up and

1660
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 1: you could actually block for the Jaguars like nobody else

1661
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: does on that team. On that note, let's come back

1662
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: in a moment and flip it to defense. Quickly join

1663
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,560
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1664
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: five k run and walk plus a one mile fun

1665
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 1: run November at t I A, bank Field, c Jacksonville

1666
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: and The Roar, plus a fun after party with live

1667
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 1: music and games. You'll finish inside the stadium and up

1668
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Speaker 1: those listening to Pete and Tony and you guys on

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Speaker 1: Would that help? Maybe? Would help make it the the

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Speaker 1: I think it would do just the opposite. It would

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Speaker 1: just enhance, enhanced, enhanced the noise. Okay, yeah, it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna block it out. I was just im just wanting

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Speaker 1: it would just would be funny. Would just block out Tony,

1740
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Speaker 1: but me and Pete would be heard. I catch you

1741
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Speaker 1: guys a little bit on the way to the TV

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Speaker 1: show when they replay thanks for listening. Yeah, they replaying

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Speaker 1: on the A M signal. You'd still get a headache,

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Speaker 1: but it would be from clean sound. Yeah. I do

1745
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Speaker 1: get a little bit of a headache. And then uh,

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Speaker 1: by the time I get to the TV show, I'm like, man,

1747
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Speaker 1: I go in here and calm down for a minute.

1748
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Speaker 1: Well it's not me. I just I just know how

1749
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Speaker 1: to tweak them and get him go. That's not hard, No,

1750
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Speaker 1: it's not. It's like it's like throwing fire. I mean

1751
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Speaker 1: the lighter fluid on the fire. He's easy. Dante Fowler

1752
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 1: got traded for a couple of draft picks. It was

1753
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 1: a report today, but a counterpoint of counterpart Pete Jason

1754
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 1: lackinfora said that earlier in the year, if not then

1755
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Speaker 1: with the preseason, that the Jacks had a chance to

1756
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: trade Fowler for Teddy Bridgewater. I've heard that's not true.

1757
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Speaker 1: By the way, Really, what was that printed by your

1758
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I heard it wasn't true, and

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Speaker 1: it probably came from the Jets. Um And and when

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Speaker 1: you look at the situation, it's Jacksonville wanted Teddy Bridgewater.

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Speaker 1: They could have had Teddy Bridge Bridgewater in the off season.

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Speaker 1: By the time when it was looking like the Jetrick

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Speaker 1: gonna trade Bridgewater, they were still all in on Blake Bortles.

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Speaker 1: They just given him an extension, So why would they

1765
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Speaker 1: go trade for Teddy Bridgewater. That makes no sense to me.

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Speaker 1: So and and plus here's the other thing. Bridgewater was

1767
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Speaker 1: still coming off the knee. Nobody knew what he was.

1768
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Speaker 1: I mean, he had the preseason where he played a

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Speaker 1: couple of games. So for me, that that report and

1770
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Speaker 1: maybe the Jets called the Jaguards and said, hey, we

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Speaker 1: got we want Dante Fowler. Maybe we'd throw in Teddy

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Speaker 1: Bridgewater or something like that. But I don't think it

1773
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Speaker 1: was the other way around, and they went searching for it. Alright.

1774
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Speaker 1: So my question to you, Pete is the reports are

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Speaker 1: about a conditional third round pick for Dante Fowler and

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Speaker 1: a future what fifth or six round pick, because that

1777
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Speaker 1: what what what it was? What is the accurate trade

1778
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Speaker 1: they get the first they get the pick that comes

1779
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Speaker 1: back to them, the competitory pick. Whichever the two competitory

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Speaker 1: picks comes back higher, that's the one that the Jaguars

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01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: will get in the third round. So that's assuming that

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Speaker 1: the Rams will get a competitor. They'll get a couple

1783
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,600
Speaker 1: of them. So if they do, then they get the

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Speaker 1: highest one of those. Now some people will say, why

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Speaker 1: didn't you just get the Rams pick, Well, it's not

1786
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Speaker 1: that much difference because the Rams are gonna be at

1787
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Speaker 1: the back end of the round anyway, So okay, and

1788
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Speaker 1: then what's the other pick that they get. So look

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Speaker 1: for me, if I look at this trade on the surface,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good trade for the Rams

1791
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:58,799
Speaker 1: who are desperate for pass rush help. They're two outside

1792
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: edge rushers, and knowing that defense, Wade Phillips needs edge rushers.

1793
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 1: As good as his down guys are, they only had

1794
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Speaker 1: two sacks in the first seven, nine or eight weeks

1795
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: of the season. That's not good enough. And and Fowler

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Speaker 1: doesn't put up giant sack numbers, but he's still a

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Speaker 1: good serviceable player. Well, he doesn't put up giant sack numbers,

1798
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Speaker 1: and I think part of the reason why is that

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Speaker 1: he's a part time has been a part time player

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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars. What do you think of him as

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Speaker 1: a player, Because people are calling me, Oh, he's a bust,

1802
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Speaker 1: he's a bust, he's a bust. What do you think

1803
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 1: of him as a player. I think he's an incredible athlete,

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest athletes I've ever watched. Um He's

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Speaker 1: got tremendous ability. He can do things physically that others

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Speaker 1: just can. Yeah. I think the biggest concern with Dante

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Speaker 1: is that where what do you what do you play

1808
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Speaker 1: him as? Is he a linebacker? Is the defensive end?

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Speaker 1: In a perfect world with the Jaguars, he would have

1810
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Speaker 1: been a two down linebacker of Sam on first and

1811
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: second down and then put his hand in the ground

1812
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Speaker 1: as a edge pass rusher on third down. The reports

1813
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Speaker 1: always words that they had a hard time trusting Dante

1814
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Speaker 1: as a linebacker on first and second down. They were

1815
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: concerned that he couldn't execute the game plan as a linebacker.

1816
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Speaker 1: So that's why he was essentially in a backup role

1817
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 1: as a defensive end. But if if you can find

1818
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Speaker 1: a way to put him in a scheme that he

1819
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: can play linebacker on first and second down and put

1820
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: his hand in the ground as a rusher outside d

1821
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 1: rusher on third down. I mean, he's not a bust.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a productive player. I mean, look at

1823
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Speaker 1: what he's been able to do when he's been healthy

1824
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Speaker 1: in the last two years, essentially playing a different position

1825
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,839
Speaker 1: that he did in college. I mean, he's a remarkable

1826
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Speaker 1: athlete and some of the production and he's been able

1827
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Speaker 1: to get eight sacks last year, uh, carrying fumbles back

1828
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Speaker 1: for touchdowns, you know. But the but the reality is

1829
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, he was a twelve day eight team

1830
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 1: play a game guy and he wasn't gonna be back

1831
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Speaker 1: next year. No, So I think your whole goal look

1832
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,719
Speaker 1: going forward is okay, Well, twelve d eight team plays

1833
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Speaker 1: are the impact plays that he could make? Is it

1834
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: gonna help us win games this year? And for the

1835
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,839
Speaker 1: way it was going was not particularly good. The reports

1836
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 1: are that he was also involved with some of the

1837
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Speaker 1: things that we're going on over there in London from

1838
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 1: a negative perspective, And so if you can capitalize now

1839
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 1: and get better than what the compensatory pick would have

1840
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 1: been from him leaving in free agency. You take it,

1841
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Speaker 1: and I think the Jaguars wisely took it, and a

1842
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: lot of people looked at that as well, it's tanking. Well, no,

1843
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: it's not tanking because if you actually looked at it

1844
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,719
Speaker 1: from Okay, do you have a guy that can step

1845
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 1: into that role Laurenti mccraig to want Smoot. I think

1846
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 1: mccraig can fill that role admirably and in some cases

1847
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 1: filled that role better than Dante as a edge type

1848
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 1: player because he's better against the run than Dante. But

1849
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 1: now who's the Who's the next guy? That's what I'm saying,

1850
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: Laurentie mccraig, after after, because you have you need four

1851
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 1: edge guys? Right, you want four? Well as far as

1852
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 1: far is like on subsituations, Yeah, well there's gonna be

1853
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Speaker 1: another one up, right, who's gonna be I think a

1854
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: smooth is gonna be up And you know Smoot's gotta

1855
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 1: start been up all year and been up all year, Pete,

1856
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Speaker 1: I mean, and you're talking about talking about you're talking

1857
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 1: about a bus there now, I mean right as of

1858
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,560
Speaker 1: right now, you would say that that is absolutely a

1859
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 1: bust because when you have a third round pick who's

1860
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 1: in the second year and he was inactive every game

1861
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: this year and it hasn't been as far as I

1862
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 1: know because of injury. Uh that's a problem. Well do

1863
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: you have it. He's got an opportunity to show it,

1864
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm sure he's gonna be up this week

1865
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: against the Colts. And the Colts right tackle is a

1866
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:46,560
Speaker 1: rookie and he's a second round pick, and he is

1867
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: he is there for the taking. That line is better,

1868
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 1: though much better, much better the the rookie. He's a

1869
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 1: second round pick and he was a Garden college and

1870
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: he's the one guy on that offensive line that's struggling.

1871
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Speaker 1: But I will say that Clinton Nelson Pete, he's good.

1872
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 1: The last early in the season, he was struggling a

1873
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: little bit, but the last five games. But I'm just

1874
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 1: saying now the last down the two games I watched, Yeah,

1875
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 1: he's been. He's a man. Yeah he's been. And you

1876
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Speaker 1: put him next to Ryan Kelly, who went to this

1877
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Speaker 1: guy Scoop you know, Alma Mater JP Obama, Kelly's Obama guy.

1878
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Speaker 1: That's that's two pretty good football play Christonso is a

1879
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Speaker 1: solid left tackle and he's coming back from an injury.

1880
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 1: He's doing pretty good, Glow Glewinsky. The right guard's Bradon Smith.

1881
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Speaker 1: But Bradon Smith will be good though maybe I think

1882
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Speaker 1: I think he'll be I think eventually he might slide

1883
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Speaker 1: it and play guard. The crazy thing is that he's

1884
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Speaker 1: six six three fifteen. He looks like he's about to eight.

1885
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Speaker 1: He looks like I know. That's it goes back to

1886
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Speaker 1: our theory on the big guys again, they look undersize,

1887
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 1: but jeff to haven't given up that. They haven't played

1888
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 1: many good defenses in the last couple We haven't given

1889
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: up a sack in fifteen quarters. That's pretty impressive. It's

1890
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: very impressive intent on the year. And he has been

1891
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 1: very comfortable in the pocket, which is Andrew luck probably

1892
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to act. He drops back and he's like,

1893
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Speaker 1: what I do it this time? You're okay? Well? Are

1894
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 1: aren't I supposed to like improvise and make something happen.

1895
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to. And and now this is a

1896
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Speaker 1: big This is for me. This is a telling game

1897
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 1: about the Jacksonville front. For big they haven't been winning enough, No,

1898
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 1: they haven't. They haven't been winning enough overall, and What's

1899
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Speaker 1: one of the big reasons why this team is where

1900
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Speaker 1: it is is because they haven't been at the top

1901
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Speaker 1: of their game like they were last year. I mean

1902
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Speaker 1: this this front. Every week last year you went how

1903
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 1: are they going to block them? And you hope that

1904
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 1: the bye week allows Clay's campbell to get a little

1905
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 1: more healthy. I think of league Jackson's been playing at

1906
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 1: a pretty high level. I think he's been playing pretty well,

1907
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 1: and I think Darius has been really good. I think

1908
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 1: those two guys have been pretty good. I think in

1909
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: Gockway needs to ramp it up, But I will say this,

1910
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 1: Pete offensive coordinators have given in Gockway a tremendous amount

1911
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Speaker 1: of respect as far as the number of backs that

1912
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 1: are chipping or tight ends that are doubling him. He is.

1913
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 1: He has had very few one on one opportunities, and

1914
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 1: I think as a defense and a defensive coordinator, you

1915
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 1: probably need to find ways to make And it would

1916
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 1: be easier if in Gockway was just as good of

1917
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 1: a rusher from the left side as he is the

1918
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Speaker 1: right side. But he's a better rusher from the right side,

1919
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Speaker 1: and it's easier to have a guy that is better

1920
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Speaker 1: on one side, and that's where he makes Hey had

1921
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Speaker 1: a putting more effort or concentration or focus on stopping

1922
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Speaker 1: him when he's a one side rusher. So alright, fellos,

1923
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Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll go around the National Football League

1924
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1992
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1993
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Speaker 1: that I'm looking forward to talk him about with him

1994
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 1: about is his rookie year, which he was the second

1995
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Speaker 1: round pick of the San Francisco forty Niners back in

1996
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Speaker 1: he had the opportunity to play with one of the

1997
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Speaker 1: great ones. Do you know what I'm talking about? Where

1998
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Speaker 1: was it? What was this? Im? Sorry he was I

1999
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: mean we're talking to Pete. Okay, yeah, okay, it's not

2000
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Speaker 1: an Alabama guy. P has no life. What I'm talking about?

2001
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Speaker 1: What he had the opportunity, Pete to play with Frank Gore,

2002
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:39,600
Speaker 1: who's surpassed to milestone he San Francisco. Right, thank you,

2003
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Speaker 1: now you've figured out. I'm back, I mean, good lord.

2004
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: And who was fourth on the NFL's all time rushing

2005
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: list and who passed I think it was Barry Sanders

2006
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 1: for fourth on the all time list as far as

2007
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage this past weekend, which is a trend's accomplishment.

2008
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Speaker 1: So I had the opportunity to play with a couple

2009
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,759
Speaker 1: of great players when I was a young player. Ronnie

2010
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 1: Lott as a guy our monk, which I got them

2011
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 1: late in obviously in their later years when they were

2012
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 1: on the downhill slope, so to speak, Pete. But to

2013
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: be able to come in as a rookie and learn

2014
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 1: from a guy like Frank Gore, I'm sure it was

2015
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 1: a great experience for a guy like him. Oh, I'm sure.

2016
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Frank Core is a pros bro. He

2017
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 1: just puts his head down and works, and that's why

2018
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 1: he's still doing it at this high level. UM. And

2019
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: granted he's not the player he used to be, but

2020
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:38,160
Speaker 1: he can still hit twenty catches, twenty rushes yesterday at

2021
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: his age, pretty incredible numbers. It was only like sixty

2022
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 1: yards or fifty something yards. It wasn't a big productive day.

2023
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:47,759
Speaker 1: But the offensive line didn't play well either. And watching

2024
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 1: the game, and I haven't watched that tape, but they

2025
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 1: watching the game, they didn't play very well. So look,

2026
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Speaker 1: he's a great he's a he's a probably a Hall

2027
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Speaker 1: of Famer UM. And you know he's been in around

2028
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 1: the league for a long time and you can't help

2029
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 1: but learn from guy is like that. Let's go around

2030
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: the National Football League Week number nine. We start off

2031
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Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers over the Ravens sixteen. James Connor

2032
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 1: could be his job for good, Pete, what's the deal

2033
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 1: with and you know what it should be? Did you

2034
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 1: look at his numbers? They're they're better than what Bell

2035
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Speaker 1: puts out there, and Bell was don't don't get me wrong,

2036
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Speaker 1: Bell is a good football player, but he's not worth

2037
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Speaker 1: the aggravation. It's eight hundred grant eight under grand a

2038
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 1: week to pay him, and he doesn't want to be

2039
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Speaker 1: around there. And he's sending out a tweet today saying

2040
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Speaker 1: he's coming back, or at least he's leaving Miami. It

2041
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's coming back. If you're don't you put

2042
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 1: him on the exemple list of your Steelers. When he

2043
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 1: does come back. That gives you two weeks Connor plays.

2044
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 1: If he continues to roll up big numbers, then you

2045
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Speaker 1: work Bell in and keep him on the roster just

2046
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Speaker 1: in case, uh, something happens to Connor. Alright, so before

2047
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Speaker 1: we go any further here, Pete, Okay, this the skype

2048
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Speaker 1: shot that you have. Yeah, it makes you look coma.

2049
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Now you look tall and big. Okay, that's

2050
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 1: much better. Tilted back just a little bit right, Okay,

2051
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 1: thank you. It's got to get that quicks move along

2052
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Speaker 1: six ft six. It looks like you're peering over a window,

2053
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 1: so you're trying to reach out. Ye looks over the

2054
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Speaker 1: top of Bears over the Bills forty one to nine.

2055
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Speaker 1: The Bears had a twenty eight zip lead in the

2056
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Speaker 1: first half HOURD with a couple of touchdowns. What's up

2057
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: with the Bills quarterback. Let me let me bring this

2058
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: up Pete first, because since the Bears won, the Bears

2059
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Speaker 1: now got flexed to that Jaguar Sunday night game, and

2060
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Speaker 1: so the Bears will be playing a Sunday night game

2061
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Speaker 1: against the Vikings and then we'll turn around and play

2062
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 1: an early Thanksgiving game on obviously Thursday, Detroit. Is that fair? Uh? No, Well,

2063
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Speaker 1: Detroit's like a twenty minute flight, doesn't matter, don't matter.

2064
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Speaker 1: You're on the road, JP, You're on the road and

2065
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Speaker 1: you're playing on Thursday early afternoon. Yeah, that's say night. Yeah,

2066
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 1: but that's a turnaround, JP. It goes from Sunday. JP

2067
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Speaker 1: is worried about is a broadcaster? Hey, I could come

2068
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: on JP. Your body, your body is good, beat up

2069
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Speaker 1: and you gotta Playeve thirty on Thanksgiving. That's rough. That's

2070
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 1: that that that's not very fair to the Bears. No,

2071
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 1: just saying Panthers over the Buccaneers forty two. They had

2072
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,560
Speaker 1: a thirty five seven lead at one point. Do you

2073
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 1: know how many they had, like four or five rushing

2074
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: touchdowns by the Carolina Panthers in that ball game? But

2075
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 1: you know how many times how many points they score?

2076
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Speaker 1: Forty two how many passing attempts to Cam Newton havent

2077
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Speaker 1: not man, You would think that with forty two points

2078
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 1: you'd have thrown a lot more. Yes, pretty good number, right, Yeah,

2079
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Speaker 1: they're getting better. That's that's a number that you like

2080
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars to have for Blake Bortles and the rushing

2081
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 1: touchdowns be nice. The Chiefs over the Browns. Pat Mahomes

2082
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Speaker 1: with the pedestrian three seventy five, three touchdowns and an interception.

2083
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Speaker 1: Kareem Han had a couple of touchdowns. What an off

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Speaker 1: day from the Homes. In another way, he's tremendous, tremen

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Speaker 1: Should do you stop them? Jackson? Pretty decent formula, go

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Speaker 1: back in time and have the Jaguars draft him. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: that's what that's what I would have done. You don't

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Speaker 1: draft to running back at number four. I remember correctly, though.

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Speaker 1: I think there was a guy in the in this

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Speaker 1: on this show that was high on that running back

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Speaker 1: at an l s U. I was high on him,

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean, no, no doubt, generational back. I

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Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be a generational back, and right

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Speaker 1: now he has proven that to be true. Is he

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Speaker 1: a bust? So far? So far? Three point nine yards

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Speaker 1: per carry, third overall pick labor unlocks. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: say he's a bus yet, but I mean he's starting to.

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Speaker 1: He's starting to ease more towards that than he is,

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Speaker 1: certainly the generational back. Does he love it? Does he

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Speaker 1: love the game? You guys act like this's gotta be

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Speaker 1: black or white. There can be grays too. Now on

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Speaker 1: this show on Thursday, you can have gray on this

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Speaker 1: Jew's black or white. Dolphins over the Jets, thirteen to six,

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Speaker 1: ugly game. Dolphins gotta pick six in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald beat four interceptions. He came out and said that,

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Speaker 1: he said, it was not a very good game by him, obviously,

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Speaker 1: and he's leading the league interception what does he have fourteen? Now? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But you know what, though, Jeff, it's so hard to

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Speaker 1: evaluate these young quarterbacks with what they have around them.

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Speaker 1: All of them are in situations where there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot around them, and I think this is just a

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Speaker 1: learning year for all of them. But but and here

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Speaker 1: here's the argument that some coaches make that I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I totally am not on board with this.

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Speaker 1: They'll say, you got to protect a young quarterback protect

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Speaker 1: him with a running game, build talent around him, because

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Speaker 1: otherwise you can ruin them. I don't believe that. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't either. Either a person has the makeup, the

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Speaker 1: mental makeup to get through it or they don't. And

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Speaker 1: I think Blake Bortles is a perfect example. If you

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Speaker 1: don't have to ruin them, well, no, you're not ruining them.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have the mental makeup, then you drafted

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Speaker 1: the wrong guy. That's exactly right. Vikings over the Lions.

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Speaker 1: Stafford sacked nine times, the Hunter had three and a

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Speaker 1: half of them ten it was ten, it was ten.

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Speaker 1: They brewal three and a half. I mean that's the

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Speaker 1: Vikings defensive. Got everything Griffin back and they're starting to

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Speaker 1: look like the old Vikings defense again. Yeah, they're they're

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Speaker 1: pretty good with him back. Daniel Hunter is my favorite

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01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:29,520
Speaker 1: player to watch in the league now as a defensive end.

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01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 1: Falcons could be back fourteen over the Skins. Julio got

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Speaker 1: a touchdown piece. The Skins are in trouble, big trouble.

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Speaker 1: They lost all their offensive linemen, big trouble. Both guards

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Speaker 1: are out for the year. Trouble. Chargers over the Seahawks seventeen,

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Speaker 1: pick six off will soon many in a row? Is

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Speaker 1: that for the Chargers? Now? Is that six? Seven in

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Speaker 1: a row or five in row? Five? So you're playing

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Speaker 1: good football. That's a good team. Texans won six in

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Speaker 1: a row, Chargers won five in a row. Jaguars four

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Speaker 1: losses in a row. Yeah, great game in New Orleans

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Speaker 1: Saints over the Rams forty five thirty five. Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: is good. Oh, he's really good. And you know what

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Speaker 1: that was? Sean Payton And hey, Sean McVeigh, look at me.

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Speaker 1: I can still call plays. And Mercury Morris is popping

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Speaker 1: champagne last night. I got tired of that. Patriots over

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Speaker 1: the Packers. We've talked about that one. Patro now seven

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Speaker 1: and two. There was really no doubt, was there, Pete?

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Speaker 1: What's some matter? You got something against Sean McVeigh. No.

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Speaker 1: I love Sean McVeigh. I think Sean McVeigh is one

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Speaker 1: of the best play callers in the league. But Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton showed on Sunday that he is too. Are you

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Speaker 1: are you? Are you a Sean Payton guy. We've gotten

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Speaker 1: into it many a time, but I think he's arguably

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Speaker 1: the best play caller into it. Oh, he used to

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Speaker 1: he got mad at me for something. My roadie called

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Speaker 1: me up and screamed and yelled at me a couple

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Speaker 1: of different times. You know me, I don't. And then

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Speaker 1: you see him out and I go, come on, Sean seriously,

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Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, yeah, you're right now, we're fine.

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Speaker 1: We heard some coaches that have called you before. I know,

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Speaker 1: there's a guy down the hallway that used to call

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Speaker 1: me at home once in a while, probably just servidly,

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Speaker 1: so no I was. I was, yeah, well, yeah, probably.

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Speaker 1: It's time for Monday night football deep in the heart

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Speaker 1: of Texas. It's a must win in a battle of

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Speaker 1: three and four teams. Marcus Mariota and the Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: visit Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott and the Dallas Cowboys. Who

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Speaker 1: gets back to five hundred tonight logs. Cowboys are at

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Speaker 1: home and if they play well at home, and Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones does a great job of making that stadium in

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Speaker 1: that place an attractional Monday night football, and I think

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Speaker 1: that they'll be tough. They'll be tough to contend with tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Cowboys, Pete, I'm taking the Cowboys too,

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Speaker 1: But it'll be close. Because they're not that good on offense. No,

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Speaker 1: they're not pretty good the other week on offense when

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars came in there that yeah, yeah, but Tennessee

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Speaker 1: will give him all they got now. They will make

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Speaker 1: no mistake. It's gonna be a tight ball game, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be in an entertaining ball game.

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Speaker 1: But thought, I gotta run the set. I'll talk to

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Speaker 1: a piece Briscoe, CBS Sports Senior writer each and every

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Speaker 1: Monday on this program. Jeff Flog have been coming up,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars All Access seven o'clock, Mela Mushroom and Avondale get

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Speaker 1: there correct. Carlos Hide will be there as well with

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Speaker 1: Clay's Campbell. I'll be there, and you'll be there to

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Speaker 1: Jeff Flagg in a little while. You'll be there for

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. Our thanks to Tony Buselli on

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Speaker 1: the phone earlier, Fred Taylor as well, taking time out

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Speaker 1: on this Monday to join us for his thoughts and

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Speaker 1: memories of Vince Manaway for our entire crew. I'm J. P. Shatrick.

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Speaker 1: Will catch you next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network.