WEBVTT - EPISODE 27: The Draymond Experience

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of.

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<v Speaker 1>This's you, lo, Chris Haynes. It's so time, Markstein, It's

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<v Speaker 1>so time. This League Uncut is underway and on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>This should be a good one. Hello again, friends, Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to another edition this League Uncut. Don't believe what you

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<v Speaker 2>read on Twitter. Mark Stein, Chris Haynes still for the

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<v Speaker 2>moment together as a tandem. Despite some high profile flirtations

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<v Speaker 2>on the Bird app between Chris Haynes and MSNBC's Chris Hayes.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not received any notifications. I'm still part of

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<v Speaker 2>this show. We're actually you know, the fact we're recording

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<v Speaker 2>this is proof just one more element of an absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>crazy Wednesday in the NBA. We are recording this on

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday night for a Thursday morning drop. If I have

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<v Speaker 2>my days right. Lakers down huge to the Jah morantless

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis Grizzlies down thirteen halfway through the third quarter as

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<v Speaker 2>we start taping this crazy day in the NBA. No

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<v Speaker 2>Job Morant for the Grizzlies in Game two against the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>No Jannis and De Decoumpo against them against the Miami Heat.

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<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee's down one Oho they got to play Game two

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<v Speaker 2>without Yiannis. Mike Brown of the Sacramento Kings Unanimous Coach

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<v Speaker 2>of the Year, as touted, predicted, and lobbied for by

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<v Speaker 2>the very in demand Chris Haynes. You called your shot,

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<v Speaker 2>you said he should be unanimous. He got it. Every

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<v Speaker 2>first place.

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<v Speaker 3>Vote, they got one hundred, one hundred voters all vote

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<v Speaker 3>at him first to win that award. Well deserved. It

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<v Speaker 3>was the right, move right decision. There was really Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I knew you had reservations about that, but there was

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<v Speaker 3>really nobody in his class this year that couldn't make

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<v Speaker 3>the case that they should receive a first place vote.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't so much reservations, It's just I didn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>think it would happen because like we saw with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't sound like Paolo Benkearo is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the umous unanimous Rookie of the Year, when he would

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<v Speaker 2>certainly have a case for that. But in Mike's case,

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<v Speaker 2>you proved correct. He absolutely lapped the field.

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<v Speaker 3>He lapped the field and at he's the first coach

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<v Speaker 3>in NBA history to receive that award unanimously. So Coach Brown,

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<v Speaker 3>he got some of the this League uncut good karma

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<v Speaker 3>along with them. I'm pretty sure that played a part

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<v Speaker 3>in a voter's decision.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been really nothing good news since he stopped

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<v Speaker 2>by this league uncut.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it nothing but good news? I mean, Malik Beasley

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<v Speaker 3>came on the pod and he got what he wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>Two days later, you know, got traded to the Los

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<v Speaker 3>Angeles Lakers. Uh, you know, Dame, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. If I don't know, if it come.

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<v Speaker 2>Don don't. Let's not point let's not point that out.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't tell him, Hey, dray BA for that better as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell him either.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're yeah, we're bat in five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Brown. Mike Brown definitely riding the wave of this

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<v Speaker 2>league uncut and the first the Coach of the Year

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<v Speaker 2>award is older than me. It goes back to nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty two to sixty three, first unanimous winner. But like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, there's even more. We have a GM change.

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<v Speaker 2>There is now a GM opening in the NBA. Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>Shephard ousted in Washington on Wednesday night. We didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>get to what I reported Monday about the Mavericks being

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<v Speaker 2>in advanced talks to hire former Utah Jazz lead assistant

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<v Speaker 2>Dennis Lindsay, who will be joining the Mavericks front office

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<v Speaker 2>to be a special assistant to Nico Harrison's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's a zillion different directions we could obviously go,

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<v Speaker 2>but in truth, there's really only one place to start.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the fact that Draymond Green recent guest on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, as you noted, the our supposed magic dust

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<v Speaker 2>certainly did not work for him. He's been suspended for

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday nights Game three. You are going to be on

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<v Speaker 2>the sideline at what is sure to be an absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>raucous Chase Center with the Warriors down to zip already,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll have to play Game three without their defensive anchor,

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<v Speaker 2>their defensive brains, and really the guy who's frequently described

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<v Speaker 2>as the heart and soul of that team. And I think, look,

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<v Speaker 2>the suspension, you know, the stomp was severe, playing to

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd with everybody into even more of a frenzy.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Silver was there even saying all that. I still

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<v Speaker 2>come away surprised that the league went through with this

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<v Speaker 2>and suspended him. I think the Warriors are surprised. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think We're alone in that surprise, because no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how merited the suspension might seem on paper, I think

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of skepticism that the league would

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<v Speaker 2>actually go through with it and take Draymond Green. After

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<v Speaker 2>he was ejected and missed the final seven plus minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of Game two, I think there was a fair bit

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<v Speaker 2>of skepticism that the league would take this step and

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<v Speaker 2>take him out of Game three, which means, I mean, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>can the Warriors? Can the Warriors win a Game three,

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<v Speaker 2>even at home without him?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very good question, Stean. Before I answer that

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<v Speaker 3>or tackle that, I should say, Producer Ryan comes through

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<v Speaker 3>again and he related to us that Dame. Don't forget

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<v Speaker 3>Dame won the three point contest.

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<v Speaker 2>Right hours after.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. So we are three for four.

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<v Speaker 2>And hey, who knows, maybe the Warriors win Game three

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<v Speaker 2>without him and come back to win this series and

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<v Speaker 2>we can forget this little suspension. But let's be real,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's gonna forget the suspension because it's a massive, massive story.

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<v Speaker 2>We all remember the way the Warriors season started with

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<v Speaker 2>the practice court clash with Jordan Poole, the punch the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Draymond Green did take time away from the team,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was not suspended at the start of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>He was there for Ring night. But now the most

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<v Speaker 2>important game of the season, he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor. Just give me your takeaways and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just take it. Something tells me we're gonna we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to say on all sides of this one.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, when this thing came down at almost

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<v Speaker 2>midnight on Tuesday night, Eastern time, what were you You

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<v Speaker 2>were on the court, right, I mean, you're working the

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<v Speaker 2>game in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 4>I was on.

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<v Speaker 3>I was Yeah, I was on during the game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>doing a sounce clip game. I didn't like it. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like it. I don't. I might be in well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying I'm a minority in that, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even think it warranted an injection. In game two,

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<v Speaker 3>I think give them both flagrant ones and keep it moving.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the bonus is I'm not saying what he

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<v Speaker 3>did is being swept under the rug, but you know

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<v Speaker 3>that's a dangerous play, very dangerous play. When you're grabbing

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<v Speaker 3>a guy's foot his ankle area and grabbing hold to it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know you can commit serious damage. Depending on how

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<v Speaker 3>that player whose foot is being held, depending on how

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<v Speaker 3>he moves, and so, yeah, it was. It was it assessive,

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it was, But I believe the hold was obsessive

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<v Speaker 3>as well. And I don't think I don't think it

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<v Speaker 3>warranted Draymond being a and I certainly don't think it

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<v Speaker 3>should have warranted a suspension for Game three. With that

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<v Speaker 3>being said, Joe Dumars laid out in a statement that

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<v Speaker 3>they took into consideration Dre's past incidents.

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<v Speaker 4>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like it still, I think you should take

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<v Speaker 3>it by a case by case basis. I don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because what that what people can lead into that is

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<v Speaker 3>that if that same situation happened with someone else, they

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<v Speaker 3>would get the benefit of the doubt and be allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to play the next next anme, I don't think you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think what happened in the past should have

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<v Speaker 3>any bearing on the decision you make moving forward. That's

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<v Speaker 3>just my, uh, my personal opinion. So I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>With that being said, to go to state Wars find

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<v Speaker 3>themselves in this in this situation far too often, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, it's typically Draymond Green putting them in

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<v Speaker 3>that situation.

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<v Speaker 4>So there are they used to it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they're used to it, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know it's gonna be tough, man, because Sacramento Keys are

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<v Speaker 3>playing some extremely great basketball. Man they've actually gotten it

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<v Speaker 3>seemed like the world is catching on to just how

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<v Speaker 3>fun this team is to watch. And even though the

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<v Speaker 3>game shifts to Oakland, excuse me, San Francisco, Oh I.

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<v Speaker 2>May, I wish it was still in Oakland? Am I

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to say that? Yes, I wish I wish it

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<v Speaker 2>was still in Oakland.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I love love to be in Oakland.

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<v Speaker 3>Oracle Arena was one of the top three best arenas

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<v Speaker 3>experience wise for me. But it's still gonna be a

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<v Speaker 3>tough game for the Words to overcome. And uh if

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<v Speaker 3>they are, if they find themselves down oh three, you

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<v Speaker 3>know Dremond's gonna catch a lot of hell for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well look, I mean you are going to be right

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<v Speaker 2>in the heart of it. You are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor for you know, one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>anticipated games of the season because how the Warriors, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the Warriors are playing for their lives. I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>reality is, and I think a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 2>overlooking this today, even if Draymond Greenen were playing in

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<v Speaker 2>this game three, let's not forget math and history say

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<v Speaker 2>that the series is very likely over. In NBA history,

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<v Speaker 2>teams that go down two with or without their best

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<v Speaker 2>defensive players suspended are twenty six and three to oh

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<v Speaker 2>eight all time. I repeat, twenty six and threeh eight.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a winning percentage of point zero seven eight. Not good.

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<v Speaker 2>So even if Draymond green were playing in game three,

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<v Speaker 2>the math and history are stacked against the Warriors coming

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<v Speaker 2>back out of this hole, especially with their road record.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, this thing has so many layers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned Joe Dumars. Joe Dumars is the one whose

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<v Speaker 2>name is on the press release, a press release that

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<v Speaker 2>very strangely again went out at eleven thirty eight Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't remember an NBA decision that went

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<v Speaker 2>out so late. Why wouldn't that just hold until the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, even that was bizarre that it drops when

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<v Speaker 2>it did in the middle of a really absorbing Suns

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<v Speaker 2>Clippers playoff game. But Joe Dumar's name, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>basically the head of NBA discipline at this point. But

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Dumar's last job before he worked for the NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>was with the Sacramento Kings in their front office, and

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<v Speaker 2>then on top of that, he is incredibly close to

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<v Speaker 2>Draymond Green, and based on everything I've heard and read,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Draymond looks at him as a mentor. So

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot here just for Joe Dumars to

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<v Speaker 2>mow through. Look, this is very hard for me to say,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like I am one of Draymond's biggest fans.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason I am one of his biggest fans

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<v Speaker 2>is because my last three years at ESPN, I was embedded,

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<v Speaker 2>basically embedded with the Warriors. I went a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>places where I traveled with that team a ton. The

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<v Speaker 2>reason I shouted out Oakland is because I became a

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<v Speaker 2>part time Oakland resident for three years. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was incredible living in what I used to call the

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors dorm because I would stay at the Oakland Marriott

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<v Speaker 2>and the Warriors would practice on top of the Oakland Marriott,

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<v Speaker 2>and you could I could roll out of bed and

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<v Speaker 2>be in front of a camera in ten minutes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the coolest work setup I've probably ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>But having observed this team from very close range, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I have a pretty good handle on how important

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<v Speaker 2>Draymond Green is to that whole machine. Obviously, the Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>universe revolves around Stephan Curry, and nobody would dispute that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm certainly not even trying to take an ounce

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<v Speaker 2>away from Steph's influence. You know, he is the center

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<v Speaker 2>of that universe. But Steve Kerr said it today, Bob

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<v Speaker 2>Myers said it today, and it's true. The Warriors don't

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<v Speaker 2>win any of their championships without Draymond Green. He is

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<v Speaker 2>that important on both ends of the court, and beyond

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<v Speaker 2>just his on court contributions, what he, you know, is

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<v Speaker 2>is really an emotional you know, the emotional compass might

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<v Speaker 2>be too strong, but I mean, he is such a

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<v Speaker 2>big part of that team's energy and edge, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of fondness for him. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that came through and we had him on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually would say that the suspension is warranted,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like I'm in the minority saying so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you combine the severity of the stomp

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<v Speaker 2>with the wrestling histrionics after the stomp that whipped up

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd with Adam Silver in the house, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when they do factor in the history, like I said

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<v Speaker 2>to me, the suspension can be justified. The surprise to

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<v Speaker 2>me is that they actually went through and did it,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think the Warriors and even around the league,

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<v Speaker 2>I think even other teams watching this did not expect

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<v Speaker 2>the league to take this step and actually sit him

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<v Speaker 2>down for this huge Game three.

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<v Speaker 3>So the question I have to you is what does

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<v Speaker 3>him getting into it with the crowd, going back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth with them, What does that have to do with

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<v Speaker 3>the incident.

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<v Speaker 2>What it does to what it says is that there's

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<v Speaker 2>no contrition and that there's no if you're gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>you put your foot there because you had nowhere else

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<v Speaker 2>to put it, Like to me, you have to show

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<v Speaker 2>some level of apology or remorse about how hard your

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<v Speaker 2>foot down came on on another player. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>by throwing in the wrestling stuff talking to the cameras,

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<v Speaker 2>it took something that was over the line, even farther

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<v Speaker 2>over the line on my scorecard.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, again, I'm not Sabonis, so I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>he felt. But do you believe that Sabonis did a

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<v Speaker 3>little Hollywood at at all to try to sail the severity.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I think you can certainly make the case that

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<v Speaker 2>he that he's gotten off very light here, all all

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<v Speaker 2>sabonus all, But all we know about Sabonis is he

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<v Speaker 2>got a technical foul. Now to this point, the Kings

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<v Speaker 2>have said he's questionable with a sternhum contusion. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I can tell by I can tell by the

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<v Speaker 2>tone of your voice you're not exactly buying that injury report,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can get a contusia any type of way.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think if Draymond actually thought he hurts really

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<v Speaker 3>hurts the Bonis, I don't think he's doing that, even

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<v Speaker 3>for Draymond. I know people may find that hard to believe,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think if he really felt like he hurts Sabonis,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's acting that way. You know, he

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<v Speaker 3>said it even after that game that he felt like

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<v Speaker 3>Sabonis was selling it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, rightfully.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's something you know, I think I can say

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<v Speaker 3>most players, but I think a lot of players would

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<v Speaker 3>do that in that situation. Again, I'm not said he

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<v Speaker 3>did it, but I don't. I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 3>that hard of a stump. Again, I just think they

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<v Speaker 3>should have moved on flagrant wants for both of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Both of them kept it, kept it moving. Let's get

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<v Speaker 3>to game.

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<v Speaker 2>Three and it's okay, So we differ there. But I

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<v Speaker 2>guess what also when I come away from this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, we had Draymond on the week. We

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<v Speaker 2>talked to him exactly a week before the playoffs started,

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<v Speaker 2>and you asked him about the New Orleans game, and

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<v Speaker 2>he went into incredible depth talking about his mindset and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what made him, you know, go to that

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<v Speaker 2>place that he talks about where he he is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to change the game with the way he comports himself

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<v Speaker 2>on the court. And so the Warriors might have ended

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<v Speaker 2>up in the plane if they don't win that New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans game. They won that New Orleans game because of

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<v Speaker 2>all the stuff he did that night. And remember he

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<v Speaker 2>even told us he said something to the effect of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that, didn't he tell Dante DiVincenzo that like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even care now if I get kicked out,

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<v Speaker 2>because we've got this game one. It's turned around like

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<v Speaker 2>he went to that place to try to get the

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<v Speaker 2>team behind him, and it did change that game dramatically.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess the reason I bring that story up

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<v Speaker 2>is just to say this is the way the Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>operate like they might have been in the play in

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<v Speaker 2>if Draymond didn't do what he did in that home

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<v Speaker 2>game in New Orleans. He tried the same approach in

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<v Speaker 2>this game too, and it backfired. But that's a trade

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Warriors have always been willing to make

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<v Speaker 2>because many more times than not it has worked for them.

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<v Speaker 2>They win way more often because of Draymond Green than

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<v Speaker 2>lose because of Draymond Green. Stat muse put out late

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<v Speaker 2>last night when all this was going on this season,

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<v Speaker 2>When you add in the two playoff games, the Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>are a is it a five to sixty two team

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<v Speaker 2>or a five eighty two winning percentage with Draymond on

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<v Speaker 2>the floor. Without Draymond there're a three point thirty three.

0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:21.840
<v Speaker 2>That's their winning percentage. Like he's a winning player and

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<v Speaker 2>he makes this team go emotionally a lot of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's why I think they roll with it,

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<v Speaker 2>because of course, now there's this whole conversation that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this is the end, and this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>horrible way for this to end for the Warriors, and

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<v Speaker 2>but Draymond Green has been. There's been so much more

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<v Speaker 2>good than bad from his time as a Warrior.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the bat has been really bad, and one

0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.399
<v Speaker 3>of the bats cost him a championship.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. But people, but even that I would dispute

0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:02.479
<v Speaker 2>to a degree because, okay, Game twenty sixteen, the common

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<v Speaker 2>refrain is he got suspended for Game five and that

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<v Speaker 2>cost them the championship. No, I think it cost them

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<v Speaker 2>Game five, which could have been the clincher, no question.

0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:15.520
<v Speaker 2>But the momentum in Game seven he was, he was,

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<v Speaker 2>He played the best game of his life in Game seven.

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<v Speaker 4>He did.

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<v Speaker 3>But at that point, you gave the Calvs life, You

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<v Speaker 3>gave them momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he gave them life, he gave the momentum,

0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:31.399
<v Speaker 2>But giving them the championship, to me, that's always been

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<v Speaker 2>a step too far. And the other reason I say

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<v Speaker 2>it is because losing that series. The Warriors don't get

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant if they don't lose that series. And so

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<v Speaker 2>then they won the next two, so they won three

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<v Speaker 2>out of four.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's the trade off. It's trade off. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>for every bad there's two goods.

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<v Speaker 2>That let me that was terrible. I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>that was you know, that was a you know, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a really bad moment, a really low moment in

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<v Speaker 2>his career. And yes, it did cost the Warriors a

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<v Speaker 2>Game five that they could have clinched at home and

0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 2>handed the Kas momentum. And yes, that mistake will be

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<v Speaker 2>talked about in reference to Draymond Green's career for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of his life. He's going to have to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about getting suspended from Game five in the twenty sixteen Finals.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just to me, it's always been an oversimplification

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<v Speaker 2>to just say it cost the Warriors the championship.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when I say that, that because the way you're

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<v Speaker 3>saying it, you're making it seem like that is the

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<v Speaker 3>common theme, like that's the narrative.

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<v Speaker 4>And that might be.

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<v Speaker 3>But from my Vanash point where I come from. Remember,

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<v Speaker 3>I was covering the Caves. I was a Cavs beat

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<v Speaker 3>writer at that time, So I'm judging it off of how.

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<v Speaker 4>What was being said.

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<v Speaker 3>In that locker room to me at the time, the disposition,

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<v Speaker 3>the vibe the locker room.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm basing it all off of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the year before you became a CALVS spy.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, the year before I came a war a Warrior spot. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so right when they won the championship two months later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were were for the Caves.

0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:20.360
<v Speaker 3>I was a spy for the Calves, according to Dremond,

0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.439
<v Speaker 3>and it took it took about half a season for

0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.639
<v Speaker 3>him to realize that I was a journalist like everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny, like I told, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>forget about the fact that, like, how crazy is that

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that you covered the Calves the twenty sixteen the great,

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, the greatest season in their franchise history, Lebron's

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, greatest moment, and then you had to flip

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<v Speaker 2>right over and cover the Warriors.

0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 4>I didn't want to. I didn't I want to star.

0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:52.159
<v Speaker 3>And the reason I didn't want to was because of that. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>first of all, when I went to cover the Cavaliers,

0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 3>I know it was jumping on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear it. I've never told me this,

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<v Speaker 2>so I want.

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<v Speaker 4>To hear I went No.

0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:06.560
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to become a national NBA writer, a national

0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:10.879
<v Speaker 3>NBA insider, and so I viewed that Cavaliers job covering

0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Lebron as.

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<v Speaker 4>He returned home.

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<v Speaker 2>I view that.

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<v Speaker 3>I viewed that as the stepping stone to get that

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<v Speaker 3>national gig. So the plan was always to do two

0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 3>years always, and I did two years was my second year.

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<v Speaker 4>ESPN brought me on.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't mention names of who the people that were

0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 3>involved in you know, get me over there, but ESPN

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.760
<v Speaker 3>brought me on and the role was for a national

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<v Speaker 3>NBA insider slash, you know, writer, and that was the

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<v Speaker 3>role for like the the month, the first month that

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<v Speaker 3>we're negotiating, that is the role. Somewhere along the line

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<v Speaker 3>after a month, something changed and then they wanted me

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<v Speaker 3>to cover the Warriors, and I'm like, hold on, here,

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<v Speaker 3>cover the Warriors. Like, first of all, like I'm done

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 3>with the beat stuff, Like I felt like I've done

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.199
<v Speaker 3>the most, one of the most, the one of the

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:10.640
<v Speaker 3>biggest beats you can do, just covering Lebron, covering his

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:14.159
<v Speaker 3>his journey home, him getting the championship. And then they

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 3>want me to cover the Warriors. Now all of a sudden,

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 3>after that's something that I didn't verbally agree to, and

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.639
<v Speaker 3>then I'm like, hold on, Ethan Strauss covers the Warriors,

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.760
<v Speaker 3>like what are they? So it was just it was

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 3>a situation where I already had let the Cleveland Plain

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.159
<v Speaker 3>deal to know I was leaving. So I ended up

0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:34.879
<v Speaker 3>taking the role and I and I didn't want to

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 3>take the role number one because I didn't want to

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.359
<v Speaker 3>be a beat writer anymore. But I didn't want to

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 3>take the role again because who do you know stein

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 3>in your history of being in this in this profession,

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:49.159
<v Speaker 3>who do you know somebody who covered the Celtics as

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 3>a beat writer in the Celtics Laker rivalry time and

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 3>then went to cover the Lakers beat Like I've never

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 3>I've never heard of that. I just never even though

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't root for any I just know how fan

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:04.720
<v Speaker 3>bases are gonna view it, and I know how players

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:09.199
<v Speaker 3>are gonna view it, because obviously you develop relationships his

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 3>status with players on one team and then you go

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 3>on the other team and try to do that, And

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 3>so I was I was really concerned about that.

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's interesting because even if it has happened before,

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 2>and I don't really you know, maybe there's an example

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 2>that I just don't remember, you know, like I remember

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 2>the great Buck Harvey, someone I absolutely loved covering the

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Spurs with great columnists for the San Antonio Express News

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 2>for years and years and years. He actually was a

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 2>former Celtics beat writer, but made the move from the

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Celtics to the Spurs, Like, I can't remember a situation

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 2>you're describing, but like I said, even if there is one,

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 2>and I'm forgetting it. You're doing this in the social

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 2>media era, which is a lot. You know, you're gonna

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.639
<v Speaker 2>hear about it. You're gonna you're gonna get those weird

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 2>reactions now that you know, had you done, had you

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 2>switched beats like that in nineteen ninety seven, you wouldn't

0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 2>have felt as angst. You wouldn't have felt as angsty

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 2>about it as you probably did in twenty seventeen.

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think I would have.

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 3>But I was doing research like at that time because

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm again like I don't want to take it. You

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 3>know that that is the main reason why I don't

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:17.880
<v Speaker 3>want to take it. But I'm doing research to try

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 3>to see, like, was there anybody, anybody, because I was

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.239
<v Speaker 3>trying to reach out to people, and I didn't reach

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 3>out to anybody because I couldn't find anybody who made

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:31.439
<v Speaker 3>a similar move covering two rivalries within the year, you know,

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.120
<v Speaker 3>covering two teams in the same rivalry within the year,

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<v Speaker 3>And I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean it ended up working out.

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<v Speaker 3>Man like, if I was going to make that transition,

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 3>the Warriors were just the perfect team.

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Steph is awesome, Clay is awesome. Dreymond was the one.

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Who had to be convinced over time that I was

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 3>not a Lebron James spy Cleveland Cavaliers spy. But it

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 3>worked out, and you know, I ended up, you know

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 3>me another two years before I got my full time

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 3>NBA insider status.

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Now that you say it out loud, the conspiracy theorist

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 2>in me wonders, like, did they already know what was

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>going to happen to Ethan? Somebody on this podcast and

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.880
<v Speaker 2>some other people in April twenty seventeen, did they already

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>know that when they when they put you on the

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Warriors Beat. I don't know that answer, but that is

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 2>a that's an interesting question for that all ESBN pod

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 2>that you keep want to make me do someday?

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.239
<v Speaker 3>What I what I can say to that. You know,

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Ethan has spoken on a record on his pod. I

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 3>believe he's written about it a few times. He didn't

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 3>want to do the everyday minutia of what is required

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 3>of the Warriors Beat, like he just you know, Ethan

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 3>is a Ethan is a great writer and he wants

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 3>to spend his time doing great work. And you know,

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 3>he made it. You know, he said this publicly. He

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't want to do the beat stuff, the things that

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 3>ESPN was asking. So I essentially came over there and

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 3>did that. But the one thing, and Ethan was able

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 3>to focus on the big picture stuff. But one thing

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 3>that I did like about ESPN is that I was

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 3>required to do the daily beat grind work for the Warriors,

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:26.239
<v Speaker 3>but they didn't stop me from doing anything else. And

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 3>so I felt like a national NBA insider at the

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 3>time because they let me work on breaking stories on

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, other teams. They let me do the sit

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 3>downs when I was doing sit downs at the time

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 3>with Kevin Durant, Michael Beasley, Dame CJ like dinner sit

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 3>downs for Sports Center. So they gave me so much

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 3>autonomy over there to do some good work. So I

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 3>appreciate them for that. I just did not want to

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 3>be a beat writer. And then when my contract was

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 3>up after two years, they they gave me a they

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 3>gave they offered me a new contract, a new contract.

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 3>It was more money than what I was making, actually

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 3>more money than I was ever making. But again they

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 3>wanted me to stay on the Warriors beat and do

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 3>the same thing, and I said no to that, and

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I went out. Then I went to looking at other offers,

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>and and then I got the biggest, the biggest deals

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 3>that I've ever had in my life from those other offers.

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 3>So it ends up working out. But I, you know,

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 3>no hard feelings towards ESPN.

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 4>It just wasn't. I wasn't willing to do that role anymore.

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 2>And that's the Chris Haynes side of the story. Stay

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 2>tuned well, so hold on.

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 4>That's my side.

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>People don't care about my side in the other part

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>of the equation. No hard Chris, no hard feelings. Hanes

0:28:55.640 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 2>has weighed in. Mark Stein has yet to add his

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>his part of the story. But look, you know what,

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>It's true. You made the right decision. You became a

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>national writer. Five years later after that, you and I

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>got to finally, finally, finally do this pod together that

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>we're that we've been trying to do. We finally the

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 2>planets aligned to allow us to hook up to do this.

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, I did get a little scared earlier tonight

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>when I saw MSNBC's Chris Haynes nominate. You know, when

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I saw him suggesting that you guys were gonna team

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>up and that our our podcast partnership was you know,

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I think this is episode twenty eight, so like, I'm like, man,

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>did we not even make it to thirty episodes? And

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>it's over? But luckily that was just Twitter talk. We're

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 2>still together, and we'll see if I ever, we'll see

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>if I ever reveal any of that, We'll see if

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I ever.

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 3>I thought, yeah, yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I'm gonna keep

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm gonna keep poking. But I thought when

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 3>we started this podcast, I thought you was gonna hit

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 3>me with tampering charges. Not me, mister Chris Hayes. I

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:07.719
<v Speaker 3>thought you were gonna hit him with tampering charges.

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Well look, I mean if he offers, if he offers

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>you a better deal, I mean, I then I you know,

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:13.719
<v Speaker 2>what can I say? I mean, I might have to

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>just shake your hand and say it was a good ride.

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>But hopefully he doesn't. But you know what, if he

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>so he wants to come on the pod, maybe, I mean,

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, I can always.

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 4>Just we're gonna have to get them all.

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>We need a Haines Hayes summit. So producer Ryan also

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 2>notes that this is only episode twenty seven, so we

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 2>definitely didn't even make it to thirty episodes. But luckily

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 2>we're still here, still together. You brought up contracts, great

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>segue for the other element of this whole Warriors thing.

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>It's been out there now for a month. Last dance?

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Is this the Warriors last dance? Last dance? I know,

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 2>our good buddy Tim Kawakami had Steve Kerr on his pod,

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, within the last month and asked him, is

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 2>this the last stands for the Warriors? Like, I just

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>don't think last dance is the right terminology here. Obviously,

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Draymond Green has a player option and Klay Thompson wants

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 2>a contract extension. And if they go out in the

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 2>first round and again with or without Draymond Green, history

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>says that, you know, only twenty six of three hundred

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>and thirty four teams in this position in NBA history

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>have ever come out of an O two hole to

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 2>win the series. So history says the Warriors are going

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 2>out in the first round, They've got decisions to make.

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I think the anticipation league wide is that there will

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 2>be changes with this team that it's not going to

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>look the exact same that with the new CBA coming in,

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be too expensive for the Warriors to

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>keep this thing together. So I think, you know, the questions,

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>the talk as a subject, it is natural to throw

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>all these things out and ask you know, we asked

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Raymond directly when he was on do you think you're

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>going to finish your is a Warrior? Because you know

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>it's unclear if his long term future with this team

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 2>is unclear, and I think he acknowledged that. And you know,

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 2>so again, change is expected to some degree. But I

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 2>don't think Stephen Curry's going anywhere. I don't know what

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of contract extension Klay Thompson is getting or not getting,

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think Clay's going anywhere. Yes, we're gonna

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 2>ask questions about Draymond's future because he has the player

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 2>option for next season at twenty seven point six million

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and he has to make a decision. We're going to

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>ask questions about Bob Myers because we've been talking about

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>that all year. Is Bob Myers going to stay on

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 2>as the lead voice in the Warrior's front office? But

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Steve Kerr is going anywhere, So, I mean,

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, last it's not as drastic as a last dance. Yes,

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>the Warriors are very likely going to look different next

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 2>season than they do right now. But it's not going

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>to be a last dancy kind of overhaul where they're

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 2>all gone.

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not I agree with you Wat saying it's

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 3>not the equivalent at all. You know, I think Clay

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.479
<v Speaker 3>will be back. Draymond is up in the air, but

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 3>there's you know, he controls his destiny.

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not the equivalent at all.

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe they're gonna, I mean, if they go out

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 2>in Round one as defending champions, to go out in

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Round one, yeah, they're they're gonna. They're gonna look at trades.

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 2>They might make a trade or two, and they might

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.239
<v Speaker 2>drastically shake this thing up. I don't you know, but

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 2>drastic shake up is not a last dance. But I guess,

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 2>even as I say it out loud, I understand the

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>sentiment because you know I did when we had Drake,

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 2>we had Draymond on you know, I said it. I'm

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 2>a basketball romantic and I would love to see those

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>three guys in particular play their whole careers together, and

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>just the reality is that doesn't happen in the end.

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't happen in the modern NBA. So are Stephen Curry,

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:59.479
<v Speaker 2>Clay Thompson, and Draymond Green going to be able to

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 2>play their whole careers together after our first round exit?

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>It gets a lot tougher to say that, Yeah, for sure. So,

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 2>as I mentioned right at the top, there's a lot

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>of different directions we could have gone in this show.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 2>With Tommy Sheppard exiting the Washington front office today and

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 2>the injuries with John and Giannis and Mike Brown, and

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's so much going on. But I had

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 2>a feeling that Draymond and all things suspension and Warriors

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>had a feeling all that was going to dominate today's discussions.

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 2>But I think the perfect ending spot for us is

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 2>it's just to get an update of your travels, mister Haynes,

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 2>because you know you are jet setting, running around series

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 2>the series. I'm stuck at home. I don't have any

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>fun travel tales to share. As stated, You've got you're

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna be at Chase Center Thursday night tonight for Kings

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.799
<v Speaker 2>at Warriors Game three. Then where are you going after that.

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 3>From there, then I go to LA and I catch

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 3>the Size and Clippers game four. That game would be Saturday.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Then after that I stay in La, which is cool.

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 3>I got Monday's game Game four between the Lakers and

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 3>the Memphis Grizzle.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Wow, three different series of.

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, four days. Yeah, and then after that.

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 3>It's not official yet, but I think I'll finally get

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 3>to do a home game where I reside in Sacramento.

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 3>That Wednesday game, which would be that game five? What

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 3>game would be next week? Wednesday Warriors? It'll be five? Okay,

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 3>that would be five. So yeah, you know, it's crazy.

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking I'm second guessing myself, like that that can't

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 3>be five, because that mean King's got Game seven. They

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 3>don't have home court advances. It's yes, they do. I forgot.

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 3>I forgot.

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 4>See it still has a second ar how good the

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 4>Kings are?

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Like, what will that be like for you to jump

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>from King's Warriors to Suns Clippers to Lakers Grizz will

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 2>be to do three different series and that short of

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:02.399
<v Speaker 2>a span.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 3>I will have a day in between, so you know,

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.280
<v Speaker 3>I can make my calls and you know, do my research.

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 3>So it would be cool because I'm familiar with all

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 3>those teams, so you know, Lakers, Memphis, easy, easy transition,

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, all you know, a lot of guys have

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 3>relationship with already from all those teams, Warriors, Clip, I mean, Warriors, Kings,

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 3>same thing, so that that's an easy transition. Like so

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 3>if but if I'm going out East, because I haven't

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 3>spent much time East, it depends on the team. But

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 3>you know there's a few East teams where you have

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:40.919
<v Speaker 3>to kind of like, all right, you got to dig

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 3>a little deeper. But this will be this will be cool.

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.760
<v Speaker 4>So all right, let me see, let me see.

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 3>So there was one point obviously, you know, for those

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 3>who'll know what you know, as I'm doing sidelines, I

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 3>got a seat right there at the scores table, right there.

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 3>And that's why Stein loves his Dallas Mavericks media seat

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 3>because he's right there, can hear everything.

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 4>Great seat. But there was one point.

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 3>In the game, and I thought fans might have caught

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 3>this on video because bones Hiler took Chris Paul to

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 3>the rack a few times and after one of the layups,

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 3>he after one of the layups, he like went off

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 3>on Chris Paul's like start talking you know, got in

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:35.800
<v Speaker 3>his face, start talking, wolfing, and then he went to

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 3>guard whoever he was guarding, and so there was a

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 3>stoppage of play not too long after that, and Chris

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Paul is over there talking with ty Loo. He's in

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Tylu face, and so I had to take out my earpiece.

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to hear what's going on, and I'm like

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 3>really close and I can pretty hear. And he was like, yeah,

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 3>a young kid doing all that talking.

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 4>Put him on me. Stop being scared. Put him on me.

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Don't go don't go score on me, and they go

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>and then go up guard somebody else. You want to,

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 3>you want to, you want to, you know, you want

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 3>to do this right, get on put him on me.

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 3>And Lou said nope, that's just time, and he just

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<v Speaker 3>turned away and start coaching again.

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<v Speaker 4>I said nope.

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<v Speaker 3>So that that was the one thing like behind to say,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, I thought somebody will catch it on camera,

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<v Speaker 3>because you could see what Chris Paul was pointing like

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<v Speaker 3>at bones, like put him on me, put him on me.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's one thing. And then uh, I told you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I have not I have not worked sideline

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<v Speaker 2>of any kind on a Tylu game since twenty sixteen

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 2>or twenty seventeen. But I found him to be in

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>my limited time doing sidelines for ESPN Radio, Tylu there

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 2>were there were always in game interactions with Tyler. You

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 2>always every single game that that the reporter was in.

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I said, he would just ask me,

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<v Speaker 2>was that a foul? What should I I mean, he

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:06.800
<v Speaker 2>would just I mean, he was joking, but like he

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<v Speaker 2>he would just he likes that sideline commentary.

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<v Speaker 4>And so let's let's keep it on ty Lou.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 3>As we know, ty Lou is arguably the best best

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 3>coach when it comes to X and OS, drawing up plays.

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 3>He just gets real creative, you know, with that aspect

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<v Speaker 3>of coaching, one of the best. And so Steyle, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you noticed, so he's been he has

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<v Speaker 3>been starting zubots defensively on Tory Craig and you know,

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 3>and you would know STI from the time that the

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Clippers the Clippers Mavericks series was a year ago, two

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<v Speaker 3>years ago when he started zubots on Luca. And so

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 3>these are all like unorthodox like assignments that he puts

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<v Speaker 3>on his players and he expects he expects them to execute.

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 4>So check it out. I didn't get to use this.

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.800
<v Speaker 4>So I went up to Zubos before the game, before

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<v Speaker 4>game two and.

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<v Speaker 3>I said a zoo, like, what's your reaction when coach

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Lou comes to you, like with these crazy defensive assignments,

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:16.879
<v Speaker 3>and like like how do you accept it?

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:18.839
<v Speaker 4>And he started laughing and he was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for Toy Craig, he said, I don't care about him,

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:26.879
<v Speaker 3>but the word what.

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 4>He said, I'm being.

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm being I'm being really uh PG thirteen with how

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 3>he said that if you can get my drift. I

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 3>don't want to say exactly what he said, but he said,

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 3>with Toy Craig, I don't care about him, but Luca,

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 3>you gotta you know, it takes more work. I gotta

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 3>put more work and more effort, and I got to

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 3>be better prepared to have the assignment like him. And

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.280
<v Speaker 3>he said, but with Lou, you know, I trust him.

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I trust him, he said, So it may sound strange,

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 3>but I trust that he's going to put me in

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 3>the best, you know, best situation possible. So that was like,

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.840
<v Speaker 3>that was really unique. I wish I could say exactly

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 3>what Zubac said. I don't think he would care if

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I did say it because he said it knowing it

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 3>was on record. But I let that be. They're still

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 3>in the playoffs. I don't want to give more bulletin

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 3>board material, even though I probably have. And lastly, side,

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to ask you about this one. Norman Powell

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<v Speaker 3>told me he is pissed, pissed off about not being

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<v Speaker 3>one of the three finalists for the sixth Man of

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 3>the Year award, being that he led the league in

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 3>scoring off the bench. He said it was pissed. He

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 3>couldn't believe it when the list came out. He felt

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 3>like his body of work, He felt like his body

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:49.240
<v Speaker 3>of work warrned it him being in the top three.

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:53.240
<v Speaker 3>And he feels his disrespectful and he just his pissed.

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Does he have a complaint remember the Clippers over the

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 3>last Let me see if I have the stat the

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Clippers have won. I want to say six of the

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 3>nine last six minut of the Year awards. I believe

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 3>from the combination of Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Montrez Harrold,

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 3>so they steady produced those awards on their team. Does

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Norman Powell have a gripe?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can see why he's surprised he wasn't

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 2>at least a finalist, you know, Bobby Portis was. You know,

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>it's probably you know, Malcolm Brogden and Emmanuel Quickly. I

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 2>think it's going to be one of those two who

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 2>probably win it and will know this week. Is that

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that one might even be the Thursday Thursday announcement.

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 2>So I guess for third finalist it's between Bobby Portis

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 2>and Norman Powell. I mean, I really like the year.

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 4>The leading score off the leaders score off the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>That I really liked the year Porters had. I think

0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Porters had had.

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<v Speaker 4>A huge Oh no, no doubt, no doubt. I'm arguing three.

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm arguing top three.

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 2>Does he have one of those three? Do we knock out?

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's really the question. I mean, do you

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 2>take out quickly? Do you take out Brogden? Do you

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 2>take out Portois?

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean producer Ryan says is five at the last.

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Nine, which is a lot. I didn't realize that that's

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot track of that. Yes, I don't think that

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 2>was a factor because I never even heard that stat

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>until you said it, So I really don't think that

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:30.279
<v Speaker 2>was a factor. But I mean, I'm glad he told you.

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad he told you how he feels about it,

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad you shared it with because I was

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 2>not aware of that.

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 4>No, he said, nobody ever asked him. He said, nobody

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 4>asked him.

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 2>And I can see what I can see why he's

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 2>not happy, for sure. But you know, again, I did

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 2>not have an official ballot, but I must confess those

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.959
<v Speaker 2>would have been my three finalists as well. I really

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 2>think Portois had an amazing year. I don't know why.

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm really fascinated about the rebounding situation in the NBA

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:01.359
<v Speaker 2>because I looked this up for my Tuesday newsletter. The

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 2>top ten rebounders in the NBA nine are from countries

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:14.839
<v Speaker 2>not named America. The highest American rebounder is number ten,

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Julius Randall, but Bobby Portis was thirteenth. I didn't realize

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Bobby Portis was that high on the list. I mean,

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>that's that's quite impressive for a six man.

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean he you know, he and somebody who plays

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 4>with Giannis too, So I.

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Mean that's the thing. Not trying to slight Norm Powell

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>in any way, shape or form. I just think it

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 2>was a it was a crowded. It's crowded. I mean,

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 2>just even getting a finalist spot is crowded. But uh

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 2>no that I'm glad you asked him. It's amazing nobody

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 2>asked him.

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so nobody asked him. So all right, I was

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 3>just putting it out there.

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<v Speaker 2>We love hearing about your travelers. Like I said, I'm envious.

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:56.760
<v Speaker 2>It's very weird. I'm home. I don't know what, when

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 2>or if I will be attending a playoff game this

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>post season, which is just crazy weird. But I get

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 2>to live vicariously through Chris Haynes. Say it right, Haynes.

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Hanes, Please, Chris Haynes.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's got? So you got Thursday Sons, Clippers, Lakers, Memphis.

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Sunday, Thursdays, which is tonight, Warriors, Kings, Saturday Suns Clippers, Monday,

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 3>Lakers Grizzlies, and which because we're taping this tonight, we're

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 3>taping this on a Wednesday night. Lakers just lost to

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 3>the Memphis Grizzlies without job series todd On.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad you threw that in because that was on my

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 2>list to make sure we update the scores as we're

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 2>putting this thing to bed. As you said, Memphis without

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 2>jaw wins. Game two evens the series with the Lakers

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 2>at one to one. Milwaukee without Yannis absolutely rolling against Miami.

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 2>So it looks like the Bucks are going to tie

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that series even without their best player. The lead was

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 2>seventy nine fifty was the last score I saw. Wow,

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 2>eighty one fifty five at the half. The Bucks eighty

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 2>one points at the half without their best player. Crazy

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Game two and then of course you've got Minnesota at

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Denver is the game that will be taking place now

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:26.239
<v Speaker 2>as Chris and I go off the proverbial air. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>A mil for joining us on another edition of This

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 2>League Uncut. Sounds like with Chris's schedule falling the way

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<v Speaker 2>it does, hopefully we will be able to record on

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:41.879
<v Speaker 2>our usual Sunday night for Monday morning release schedule. Please rate,

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 2>review and subscribe to the pod This League Uncut, Stein

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 2>and A. Haynes back with you very soon. Thanks for

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:55.439
<v Speaker 2>joining us everybody, and that'll do it for us. See

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<v Speaker 2>you next time. This League Uncut is an iHeartRadio production.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't suck a look up

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Hans and marks time