1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: Twenty four hour NBA News. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: This's you, lo, Chris Haynes. It's so time, Markstein, It's 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: so time. This League Uncut is underway and on fire. 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: This should be a good one. Hello again, friends, Welcome 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: to another edition this League Uncut. Don't believe what you 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: read on Twitter. Mark Stein, Chris Haynes still for the 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: moment together as a tandem. Despite some high profile flirtations 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: on the Bird app between Chris Haynes and MSNBC's Chris Hayes. 10 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: I have not received any notifications. I'm still part of 11 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: this show. We're actually you know, the fact we're recording 12 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: this is proof just one more element of an absolutely 13 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: crazy Wednesday in the NBA. We are recording this on 14 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: Wednesday night for a Thursday morning drop. If I have 15 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: my days right. Lakers down huge to the Jah morantless 16 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzlies down thirteen halfway through the third quarter as 17 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: we start taping this crazy day in the NBA. No 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Job Morant for the Grizzlies in Game two against the Lakers. 19 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: No Jannis and De Decoumpo against them against the Miami Heat. 20 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: Milwaukee's down one Oho they got to play Game two 21 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: without Yiannis. Mike Brown of the Sacramento Kings Unanimous Coach 22 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: of the Year, as touted, predicted, and lobbied for by 23 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: the very in demand Chris Haynes. You called your shot, 24 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: you said he should be unanimous. He got it. Every 25 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: first place. 26 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: Vote, they got one hundred, one hundred voters all vote 27 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: at him first to win that award. Well deserved. It 28 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: was the right, move right decision. There was really Listen, 29 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: I knew you had reservations about that, but there was 30 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: really nobody in his class this year that couldn't make 31 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: the case that they should receive a first place vote. 32 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 2: It wasn't so much reservations, It's just I didn't necessarily 33 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: think it would happen because like we saw with you know, 34 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like Paolo Benkearo is going to be 35 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: the umous unanimous Rookie of the Year, when he would 36 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: certainly have a case for that. But in Mike's case, 37 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: you proved correct. He absolutely lapped the field. 38 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: He lapped the field and at he's the first coach 39 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: in NBA history to receive that award unanimously. So Coach Brown, 40 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 3: he got some of the this League uncut good karma 41 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: along with them. I'm pretty sure that played a part 42 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: in a voter's decision. 43 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: It has been really nothing good news since he stopped 44 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: by this league uncut. 45 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: Isn't it nothing but good news? I mean, Malik Beasley 46 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: came on the pod and he got what he wanted. 47 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 3: Two days later, you know, got traded to the Los 48 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: Angeles Lakers. Uh, you know, Dame, I don't know. 49 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. If I don't know, if it come. 50 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: Don don't. Let's not point let's not point that out. 51 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: Don't tell him, Hey, dray BA for that better as well. 52 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: I'll tell him either. 53 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: I think we're yeah, we're bat in five hundred. 54 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: Mike Brown. Mike Brown definitely riding the wave of this 55 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: league uncut and the first the Coach of the Year 56 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: award is older than me. It goes back to nineteen 57 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: sixty two to sixty three, first unanimous winner. But like 58 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: I said, there's even more. We have a GM change. 59 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: There is now a GM opening in the NBA. Tommy 60 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: Shephard ousted in Washington on Wednesday night. We didn't even 61 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: get to what I reported Monday about the Mavericks being 62 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: in advanced talks to hire former Utah Jazz lead assistant 63 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: Dennis Lindsay, who will be joining the Mavericks front office 64 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: to be a special assistant to Nico Harrison's I mean, 65 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: there's there's a zillion different directions we could obviously go, 66 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: but in truth, there's really only one place to start. 67 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: And that's the fact that Draymond Green recent guest on 68 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: this podcast, as you noted, the our supposed magic dust 69 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: certainly did not work for him. He's been suspended for 70 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: Thursday nights Game three. You are going to be on 71 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: the sideline at what is sure to be an absolutely 72 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: raucous Chase Center with the Warriors down to zip already, 73 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: and we'll have to play Game three without their defensive anchor, 74 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: their defensive brains, and really the guy who's frequently described 75 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: as the heart and soul of that team. And I think, look, 76 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: the suspension, you know, the stomp was severe, playing to 77 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: the crowd with everybody into even more of a frenzy. 78 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: Adam Silver was there even saying all that. I still 79 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: come away surprised that the league went through with this 80 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: and suspended him. I think the Warriors are surprised. I 81 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: don't think We're alone in that surprise, because no matter 82 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: how merited the suspension might seem on paper, I think 83 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: there was a lot of skepticism that the league would 84 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: actually go through with it and take Draymond Green. After 85 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: he was ejected and missed the final seven plus minutes 86 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: of Game two, I think there was a fair bit 87 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: of skepticism that the league would take this step and 88 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: take him out of Game three, which means, I mean, wow, 89 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: can the Warriors? Can the Warriors win a Game three, 90 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: even at home without him? 91 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: That's a very good question, Stean. Before I answer that 92 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: or tackle that, I should say, Producer Ryan comes through 93 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: again and he related to us that Dame. Don't forget 94 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: Dame won the three point contest. 95 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: Right hours after. 96 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 4: Thank you. So we are three for four. 97 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: And hey, who knows, maybe the Warriors win Game three 98 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: without him and come back to win this series and 99 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: we can forget this little suspension. But let's be real, 100 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: nobody's gonna forget the suspension because it's a massive, massive story. 101 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: We all remember the way the Warriors season started with 102 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: the practice court clash with Jordan Poole, the punch the Warriors. 103 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: You know, Draymond Green did take time away from the team, 104 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: but he was not suspended at the start of the season. 105 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 2: He was there for Ring night. But now the most 106 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: important game of the season, he's not going to be 107 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: on the floor. Just give me your takeaways and we'll 108 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: just take it. Something tells me we're gonna we'll have 109 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: a lot to say on all sides of this one. 110 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: But I mean, when this thing came down at almost 111 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: midnight on Tuesday night, Eastern time, what were you You 112 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: were on the court, right, I mean, you're working the 113 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: game in Phoenix. 114 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: I was on. 115 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: I was Yeah, I was on during the game. Yeah, 116 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: doing a sounce clip game. I didn't like it. I 117 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: don't like it. I don't. I might be in well, 118 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm a minority in that, but I don't. 119 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: I didn't even think it warranted an injection. In game two, 120 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: I think give them both flagrant ones and keep it moving. 121 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: I think the bonus is I'm not saying what he 122 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: did is being swept under the rug, but you know 123 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: that's a dangerous play, very dangerous play. When you're grabbing 124 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: a guy's foot his ankle area and grabbing hold to it, 125 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: you know you can commit serious damage. Depending on how 126 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: that player whose foot is being held, depending on how 127 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: he moves, and so, yeah, it was. It was it assessive, 128 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: Yes it was, But I believe the hold was obsessive 129 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: as well. And I don't think I don't think it 130 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: warranted Draymond being a and I certainly don't think it 131 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: should have warranted a suspension for Game three. With that 132 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: being said, Joe Dumars laid out in a statement that 133 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: they took into consideration Dre's past incidents. 134 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 4: I get it. 135 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: I don't like it still, I think you should take 136 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: it by a case by case basis. I don't, you know, 137 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: because what that what people can lead into that is 138 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: that if that same situation happened with someone else, they 139 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: would get the benefit of the doubt and be allowed 140 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: to play the next next anme, I don't think you. 141 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: I don't think what happened in the past should have 142 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: any bearing on the decision you make moving forward. That's 143 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: just my, uh, my personal opinion. So I don't like it. 144 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: With that being said, to go to state Wars find 145 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: themselves in this in this situation far too often, and 146 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's typically Draymond Green putting them in 147 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: that situation. 148 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: So there are they used to it? 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're used to it, but you 150 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: know it's gonna be tough, man, because Sacramento Keys are 151 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: playing some extremely great basketball. Man they've actually gotten it 152 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: seemed like the world is catching on to just how 153 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: fun this team is to watch. And even though the 154 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: game shifts to Oakland, excuse me, San Francisco, Oh I. 155 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: May, I wish it was still in Oakland? Am I 156 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: allowed to say that? Yes, I wish I wish it 157 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: was still in Oakland. 158 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 4: Okay, I love love to be in Oakland. 159 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: Oracle Arena was one of the top three best arenas 160 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: experience wise for me. But it's still gonna be a 161 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 3: tough game for the Words to overcome. And uh if 162 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: they are, if they find themselves down oh three, you 163 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 3: know Dremond's gonna catch a lot of hell for sure. 164 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: Well look, I mean you are going to be right 165 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: in the heart of it. You are going to be 166 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: on the floor for you know, one of the most 167 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: anticipated games of the season because how the Warriors, I mean, 168 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: the Warriors are playing for their lives. I mean the 169 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: reality is, and I think a lot of people are 170 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: overlooking this today, even if Draymond Greenen were playing in 171 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: this game three, let's not forget math and history say 172 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: that the series is very likely over. In NBA history, 173 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: teams that go down two with or without their best 174 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: defensive players suspended are twenty six and three to oh 175 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: eight all time. I repeat, twenty six and threeh eight. 176 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: That's a winning percentage of point zero seven eight. Not good. 177 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: So even if Draymond green were playing in game three, 178 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: the math and history are stacked against the Warriors coming 179 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: back out of this hole, especially with their road record. 180 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: But I mean, this thing has so many layers. I mean, 181 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 2: you mentioned Joe Dumars. Joe Dumars is the one whose 182 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: name is on the press release, a press release that 183 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: very strangely again went out at eleven thirty eight Eastern time. 184 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't remember an NBA decision that went 185 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: out so late. Why wouldn't that just hold until the morning. 186 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: I mean, even that was bizarre that it drops when 187 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: it did in the middle of a really absorbing Suns 188 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: Clippers playoff game. But Joe Dumar's name, as you know, 189 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: basically the head of NBA discipline at this point. But 190 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: Joe Dumar's last job before he worked for the NBA, 191 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: was with the Sacramento Kings in their front office, and 192 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: then on top of that, he is incredibly close to 193 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: Draymond Green, and based on everything I've heard and read, 194 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: I mean, Draymond looks at him as a mentor. So 195 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: there was a lot here just for Joe Dumars to 196 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: mow through. Look, this is very hard for me to say, 197 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: because I feel like I am one of Draymond's biggest fans. 198 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: And the reason I am one of his biggest fans 199 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: is because my last three years at ESPN, I was embedded, 200 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: basically embedded with the Warriors. I went a lot of 201 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: places where I traveled with that team a ton. The 202 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: reason I shouted out Oakland is because I became a 203 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: part time Oakland resident for three years. I mean, it 204 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: was incredible living in what I used to call the 205 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: Warriors dorm because I would stay at the Oakland Marriott 206 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: and the Warriors would practice on top of the Oakland Marriott, 207 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: and you could I could roll out of bed and 208 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: be in front of a camera in ten minutes. I mean, 209 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: it was the coolest work setup I've probably ever had. 210 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: But having observed this team from very close range, I 211 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 2: think I have a pretty good handle on how important 212 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: Draymond Green is to that whole machine. Obviously, the Warriors 213 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: universe revolves around Stephan Curry, and nobody would dispute that. 214 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: And I'm certainly not even trying to take an ounce 215 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: away from Steph's influence. You know, he is the center 216 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: of that universe. But Steve Kerr said it today, Bob 217 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Myers said it today, and it's true. The Warriors don't 218 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: win any of their championships without Draymond Green. He is 219 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: that important on both ends of the court, and beyond 220 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: just his on court contributions, what he, you know, is 221 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: is really an emotional you know, the emotional compass might 222 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: be too strong, but I mean, he is such a 223 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: big part of that team's energy and edge, and so 224 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: I have a lot of fondness for him. I think 225 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: that came through and we had him on the show. 226 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: But I actually would say that the suspension is warranted, 227 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: and I feel like I'm in the minority saying so. 228 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: I think when you combine the severity of the stomp 229 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: with the wrestling histrionics after the stomp that whipped up 230 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: the crowd with Adam Silver in the house, and you know, 231 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: when they do factor in the history, like I said 232 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: to me, the suspension can be justified. The surprise to 233 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: me is that they actually went through and did it, 234 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: because I think the Warriors and even around the league, 235 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: I think even other teams watching this did not expect 236 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: the league to take this step and actually sit him 237 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: down for this huge Game three. 238 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: So the question I have to you is what does 239 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: him getting into it with the crowd, going back and 240 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 3: forth with them, What does that have to do with 241 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: the incident. 242 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: What it does to what it says is that there's 243 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: no contrition and that there's no if you're gonna say 244 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: you put your foot there because you had nowhere else 245 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: to put it, Like to me, you have to show 246 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: some level of apology or remorse about how hard your 247 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: foot down came on on another player. And I think 248 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: by throwing in the wrestling stuff talking to the cameras, 249 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: it took something that was over the line, even farther 250 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: over the line on my scorecard. 251 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: Okay, again, I'm not Sabonis, so I don't know what 252 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: he felt. But do you believe that Sabonis did a 253 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: little Hollywood at at all to try to sail the severity. 254 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: Look, I think you can certainly make the case that 255 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: he that he's gotten off very light here, all all 256 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: sabonus all, But all we know about Sabonis is he 257 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: got a technical foul. Now to this point, the Kings 258 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: have said he's questionable with a sternhum contusion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 259 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: So I can tell by I can tell by the 260 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: tone of your voice you're not exactly buying that injury report, 261 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: you know. 262 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you can get a contusia any type of way. 263 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: But I think if Draymond actually thought he hurts really 264 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: hurts the Bonis, I don't think he's doing that, even 265 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 3: for Draymond. I know people may find that hard to believe, 266 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: but I think if he really felt like he hurts Sabonis, 267 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: I don't think he's acting that way. You know, he 268 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: said it even after that game that he felt like 269 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: Sabonis was selling it a little bit. 270 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: And you know, rightfully. 271 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: So that's something you know, I think I can say 272 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: most players, but I think a lot of players would 273 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: do that in that situation. Again, I'm not said he 274 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: did it, but I don't. I don't think it was 275 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: that hard of a stump. Again, I just think they 276 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: should have moved on flagrant wants for both of them. 277 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: Both of them kept it, kept it moving. Let's get 278 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: to game. 279 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: Three and it's okay, So we differ there. But I 280 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: guess what also when I come away from this thing, 281 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: because you know, we had Draymond on the week. We 282 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: talked to him exactly a week before the playoffs started, 283 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: and you asked him about the New Orleans game, and 284 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: he went into incredible depth talking about his mindset and 285 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: kind of what made him, you know, go to that 286 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: place that he talks about where he he is trying 287 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: to change the game with the way he comports himself 288 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: on the court. And so the Warriors might have ended 289 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: up in the plane if they don't win that New 290 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 2: Orleans game. They won that New Orleans game because of 291 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: all the stuff he did that night. And remember he 292 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: even told us he said something to the effect of, 293 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: you know that, didn't he tell Dante DiVincenzo that like, 294 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: I don't even care now if I get kicked out, 295 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: because we've got this game one. It's turned around like 296 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: he went to that place to try to get the 297 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: team behind him, and it did change that game dramatically. 298 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: So I guess the reason I bring that story up 299 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: is just to say this is the way the Warriors 300 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: operate like they might have been in the play in 301 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: if Draymond didn't do what he did in that home 302 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: game in New Orleans. He tried the same approach in 303 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: this game too, and it backfired. But that's a trade 304 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: I think the Warriors have always been willing to make 305 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: because many more times than not it has worked for them. 306 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: They win way more often because of Draymond Green than 307 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: lose because of Draymond Green. Stat muse put out late 308 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: last night when all this was going on this season, 309 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: When you add in the two playoff games, the Warriors 310 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: are a is it a five to sixty two team 311 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: or a five eighty two winning percentage with Draymond on 312 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: the floor. Without Draymond there're a three point thirty three. 313 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: That's their winning percentage. Like he's a winning player and 314 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: he makes this team go emotionally a lot of the time. 315 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: And so that's why I think they roll with it, 316 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: because of course, now there's this whole conversation that maybe 317 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: this is the end, and this is gonna be a 318 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 2: horrible way for this to end for the Warriors, and 319 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: but Draymond Green has been. There's been so much more 320 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: good than bad from his time as a Warrior. 321 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the bat has been really bad, and one 322 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: of the bats cost him a championship. 323 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: You know. But people, but even that I would dispute 324 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 2: to a degree because, okay, Game twenty sixteen, the common 325 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 2: refrain is he got suspended for Game five and that 326 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: cost them the championship. No, I think it cost them 327 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: Game five, which could have been the clincher, no question. 328 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: But the momentum in Game seven he was, he was, 329 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: He played the best game of his life in Game seven. 330 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: He did. 331 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: But at that point, you gave the Calvs life, You 332 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: gave them momentum. 333 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so he gave them life, he gave the momentum, 334 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: But giving them the championship, to me, that's always been 335 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: a step too far. And the other reason I say 336 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: it is because losing that series. The Warriors don't get 337 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant if they don't lose that series. And so 338 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: then they won the next two, so they won three 339 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: out of four. 340 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 4: So it's the trade off. It's trade off. You know, 341 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: for every bad there's two goods. 342 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: That let me that was terrible. I'm not trying to 343 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: that was you know, that was a you know, that 344 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: was a really bad moment, a really low moment in 345 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: his career. And yes, it did cost the Warriors a 346 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: Game five that they could have clinched at home and 347 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: handed the Kas momentum. And yes, that mistake will be 348 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: talked about in reference to Draymond Green's career for the 349 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: rest of his life. He's going to have to hear 350 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 2: about getting suspended from Game five in the twenty sixteen Finals. 351 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: But I just to me, it's always been an oversimplification 352 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: to just say it cost the Warriors the championship. 353 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: Well, when I say that, that because the way you're 354 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 3: saying it, you're making it seem like that is the 355 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: common theme, like that's the narrative. 356 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: And that might be. 357 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: But from my Vanash point where I come from. Remember, 358 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: I was covering the Caves. I was a Cavs beat 359 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 3: writer at that time, So I'm judging it off of how. 360 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: What was being said. 361 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: In that locker room to me at the time, the disposition, 362 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 3: the vibe the locker room. 363 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: I'm basing it all off of that. 364 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: That was the year before you became a CALVS spy. 365 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: Correct, the year before I came a war a Warrior spot. Yes, 366 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 3: so right when they won the championship two months later. 367 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were were for the Caves. 368 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 3: I was a spy for the Calves, according to Dremond, 369 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: and it took it took about half a season for 370 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: him to realize that I was a journalist like everybody. 371 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, like I told, I mean, I 372 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: forget about the fact that, like, how crazy is that 373 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 2: that you covered the Calves the twenty sixteen the great, 374 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: you know, the greatest season in their franchise history, Lebron's 375 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: you know, greatest moment, and then you had to flip 376 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: right over and cover the Warriors. 377 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: I didn't want to. I didn't I want to star. 378 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: And the reason I didn't want to was because of that. Like, 379 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 3: first of all, when I went to cover the Cavaliers, 380 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: I know it was jumping on it. 381 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: I want to hear it. I've never told me this, 382 00:21:59,400 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: so I want. 383 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 4: To hear I went No. 384 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to become a national NBA writer, a national 385 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 3: NBA insider, and so I viewed that Cavaliers job covering 386 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: Lebron as. 387 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: He returned home. 388 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: I view that. 389 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 3: I viewed that as the stepping stone to get that 390 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: national gig. So the plan was always to do two 391 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: years always, and I did two years was my second year. 392 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 4: ESPN brought me on. 393 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 3: I won't mention names of who the people that were 394 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: involved in you know, get me over there, but ESPN 395 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: brought me on and the role was for a national 396 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 3: NBA insider slash, you know, writer, and that was the 397 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: role for like the the month, the first month that 398 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: we're negotiating, that is the role. Somewhere along the line 399 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 3: after a month, something changed and then they wanted me 400 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: to cover the Warriors, and I'm like, hold on, here, 401 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: cover the Warriors. Like, first of all, like I'm done 402 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 3: with the beat stuff, Like I felt like I've done 403 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 3: the most, one of the most, the one of the 404 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 3: biggest beats you can do, just covering Lebron, covering his 405 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 3: his journey home, him getting the championship. And then they 406 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: want me to cover the Warriors. Now all of a sudden, 407 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: after that's something that I didn't verbally agree to, and 408 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: then I'm like, hold on, Ethan Strauss covers the Warriors, 409 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 3: like what are they? So it was just it was 410 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: a situation where I already had let the Cleveland Plain 411 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 3: deal to know I was leaving. So I ended up 412 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: taking the role and I and I didn't want to 413 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: take the role number one because I didn't want to 414 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: be a beat writer anymore. But I didn't want to 415 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: take the role again because who do you know stein 416 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: in your history of being in this in this profession, 417 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 3: who do you know somebody who covered the Celtics as 418 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: a beat writer in the Celtics Laker rivalry time and 419 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: then went to cover the Lakers beat Like I've never 420 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: I've never heard of that. I just never even though 421 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: I don't root for any I just know how fan 422 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: bases are gonna view it, and I know how players 423 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: are gonna view it, because obviously you develop relationships his 424 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 3: status with players on one team and then you go 425 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: on the other team and try to do that, And 426 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: so I was I was really concerned about that. 427 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because even if it has happened before, 428 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: and I don't really you know, maybe there's an example 429 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: that I just don't remember, you know, like I remember 430 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 2: the great Buck Harvey, someone I absolutely loved covering the 431 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: Spurs with great columnists for the San Antonio Express News 432 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: for years and years and years. He actually was a 433 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: former Celtics beat writer, but made the move from the 434 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: Celtics to the Spurs, Like, I can't remember a situation 435 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: you're describing, but like I said, even if there is one, 436 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: and I'm forgetting it. You're doing this in the social 437 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: media era, which is a lot. You know, you're gonna 438 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: hear about it. You're gonna you're gonna get those weird 439 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: reactions now that you know, had you done, had you 440 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: switched beats like that in nineteen ninety seven, you wouldn't 441 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: have felt as angst. You wouldn't have felt as angsty 442 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: about it as you probably did in twenty seventeen. 443 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I would have. 444 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: But I was doing research like at that time because 445 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm again like I don't want to take it. You 446 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: know that that is the main reason why I don't 447 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 3: want to take it. But I'm doing research to try 448 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: to see, like, was there anybody, anybody, because I was 449 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 3: trying to reach out to people, and I didn't reach 450 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: out to anybody because I couldn't find anybody who made 451 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 3: a similar move covering two rivalries within the year, you know, 452 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 3: covering two teams in the same rivalry within the year, 453 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: And I. 454 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 4: Mean it ended up working out. 455 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: Man like, if I was going to make that transition, 456 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 3: the Warriors were just the perfect team. 457 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 4: Steph is awesome, Clay is awesome. Dreymond was the one. 458 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: Who had to be convinced over time that I was 459 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: not a Lebron James spy Cleveland Cavaliers spy. But it 460 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: worked out, and you know, I ended up, you know 461 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: me another two years before I got my full time 462 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 3: NBA insider status. 463 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: Now that you say it out loud, the conspiracy theorist 464 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: in me wonders, like, did they already know what was 465 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: going to happen to Ethan? Somebody on this podcast and 466 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 2: some other people in April twenty seventeen, did they already 467 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: know that when they when they put you on the 468 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: Warriors Beat. I don't know that answer, but that is 469 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: a that's an interesting question for that all ESBN pod 470 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: that you keep want to make me do someday? 471 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 3: What I what I can say to that. You know, 472 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: Ethan has spoken on a record on his pod. I 473 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: believe he's written about it a few times. He didn't 474 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: want to do the everyday minutia of what is required 475 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: of the Warriors Beat, like he just you know, Ethan 476 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: is a Ethan is a great writer and he wants 477 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: to spend his time doing great work. And you know, 478 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: he made it. You know, he said this publicly. He 479 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: didn't want to do the beat stuff, the things that 480 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: ESPN was asking. So I essentially came over there and 481 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: did that. But the one thing, and Ethan was able 482 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 3: to focus on the big picture stuff. But one thing 483 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 3: that I did like about ESPN is that I was 484 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: required to do the daily beat grind work for the Warriors, 485 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 3: but they didn't stop me from doing anything else. And 486 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: so I felt like a national NBA insider at the 487 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: time because they let me work on breaking stories on 488 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: you know, other teams. They let me do the sit 489 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: downs when I was doing sit downs at the time 490 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: with Kevin Durant, Michael Beasley, Dame CJ like dinner sit 491 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: downs for Sports Center. So they gave me so much 492 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: autonomy over there to do some good work. So I 493 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: appreciate them for that. I just did not want to 494 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: be a beat writer. And then when my contract was 495 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 3: up after two years, they they gave me a they 496 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: gave they offered me a new contract, a new contract. 497 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: It was more money than what I was making, actually 498 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: more money than I was ever making. But again they 499 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 3: wanted me to stay on the Warriors beat and do 500 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 3: the same thing, and I said no to that, and 501 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: I went out. Then I went to looking at other offers, 502 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: and and then I got the biggest, the biggest deals 503 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: that I've ever had in my life from those other offers. 504 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: So it ends up working out. But I, you know, 505 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: no hard feelings towards ESPN. 506 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 4: It just wasn't. I wasn't willing to do that role anymore. 507 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: And that's the Chris Haynes side of the story. Stay 508 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: tuned well, so hold on. 509 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: That's my side. 510 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: People don't care about my side in the other part 511 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: of the equation. No hard Chris, no hard feelings. Hanes 512 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: has weighed in. Mark Stein has yet to add his 513 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: his part of the story. But look, you know what, 514 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: It's true. You made the right decision. You became a 515 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: national writer. Five years later after that, you and I 516 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: got to finally, finally, finally do this pod together that 517 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: we're that we've been trying to do. We finally the 518 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: planets aligned to allow us to hook up to do this. 519 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: You know, I did get a little scared earlier tonight 520 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: when I saw MSNBC's Chris Haynes nominate. You know, when 521 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: I saw him suggesting that you guys were gonna team 522 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: up and that our our podcast partnership was you know, 523 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: I think this is episode twenty eight, so like, I'm like, man, 524 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: did we not even make it to thirty episodes? And 525 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: it's over? But luckily that was just Twitter talk. We're 526 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: still together, and we'll see if I ever, we'll see 527 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: if I ever reveal any of that, We'll see if 528 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: I ever. 529 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I'm gonna keep 530 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna keep poking. But I thought when 531 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: we started this podcast, I thought you was gonna hit 532 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 3: me with tampering charges. Not me, mister Chris Hayes. I 533 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 3: thought you were gonna hit him with tampering charges. 534 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: Well look, I mean if he offers, if he offers 535 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: you a better deal, I mean, I then I you know, 536 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 2: what can I say? I mean, I might have to 537 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: just shake your hand and say it was a good ride. 538 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: But hopefully he doesn't. But you know what, if he 539 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: so he wants to come on the pod, maybe, I mean, 540 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: you know, I can always. 541 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 4: Just we're gonna have to get them all. 542 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: We need a Haines Hayes summit. So producer Ryan also 543 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: notes that this is only episode twenty seven, so we 544 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: definitely didn't even make it to thirty episodes. But luckily 545 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: we're still here, still together. You brought up contracts, great 546 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: segue for the other element of this whole Warriors thing. 547 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: It's been out there now for a month. Last dance? 548 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: Is this the Warriors last dance? Last dance? I know, 549 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: our good buddy Tim Kawakami had Steve Kerr on his pod, 550 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: you know, within the last month and asked him, is 551 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: this the last stands for the Warriors? Like, I just 552 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: don't think last dance is the right terminology here. Obviously, 553 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: Draymond Green has a player option and Klay Thompson wants 554 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: a contract extension. And if they go out in the 555 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: first round and again with or without Draymond Green, history 556 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: says that, you know, only twenty six of three hundred 557 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: and thirty four teams in this position in NBA history 558 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: have ever come out of an O two hole to 559 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: win the series. So history says the Warriors are going 560 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: out in the first round, They've got decisions to make. 561 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: I think the anticipation league wide is that there will 562 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: be changes with this team that it's not going to 563 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: look the exact same that with the new CBA coming in, 564 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be too expensive for the Warriors to 565 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: keep this thing together. So I think, you know, the questions, 566 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: the talk as a subject, it is natural to throw 567 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: all these things out and ask you know, we asked 568 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: Raymond directly when he was on do you think you're 569 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: going to finish your is a Warrior? Because you know 570 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: it's unclear if his long term future with this team 571 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: is unclear, and I think he acknowledged that. And you know, 572 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: so again, change is expected to some degree. But I 573 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: don't think Stephen Curry's going anywhere. I don't know what 574 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: kind of contract extension Klay Thompson is getting or not getting, 575 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: but I don't think Clay's going anywhere. Yes, we're gonna 576 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: ask questions about Draymond's future because he has the player 577 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: option for next season at twenty seven point six million 578 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: and he has to make a decision. We're going to 579 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: ask questions about Bob Myers because we've been talking about 580 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: that all year. Is Bob Myers going to stay on 581 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: as the lead voice in the Warrior's front office? But 582 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: I don't think Steve Kerr is going anywhere, So, I mean, 583 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: you know, last it's not as drastic as a last dance. Yes, 584 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: the Warriors are very likely going to look different next 585 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: season than they do right now. But it's not going 586 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: to be a last dancy kind of overhaul where they're 587 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: all gone. 588 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not I agree with you Wat saying it's 589 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 3: not the equivalent at all. You know, I think Clay 590 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 3: will be back. Draymond is up in the air, but 591 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: there's you know, he controls his destiny. 592 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not the equivalent at all. 593 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they're gonna, I mean, if they go out 594 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: in Round one as defending champions, to go out in 595 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: Round one, yeah, they're they're gonna. They're gonna look at trades. 596 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: They might make a trade or two, and they might 597 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 2: drastically shake this thing up. I don't you know, but 598 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: drastic shake up is not a last dance. But I guess, 599 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: even as I say it out loud, I understand the 600 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: sentiment because you know I did when we had Drake, 601 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: we had Draymond on you know, I said it. I'm 602 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: a basketball romantic and I would love to see those 603 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: three guys in particular play their whole careers together, and 604 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: just the reality is that doesn't happen in the end. 605 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't happen in the modern NBA. So are Stephen Curry, 606 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 2: Clay Thompson, and Draymond Green going to be able to 607 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: play their whole careers together after our first round exit? 608 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: It gets a lot tougher to say that, Yeah, for sure. So, 609 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: as I mentioned right at the top, there's a lot 610 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: of different directions we could have gone in this show. 611 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: With Tommy Sheppard exiting the Washington front office today and 612 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 2: the injuries with John and Giannis and Mike Brown, and 613 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much going on. But I had 614 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: a feeling that Draymond and all things suspension and Warriors 615 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: had a feeling all that was going to dominate today's discussions. 616 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: But I think the perfect ending spot for us is 617 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 2: it's just to get an update of your travels, mister Haynes, 618 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: because you know you are jet setting, running around series 619 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 2: the series. I'm stuck at home. I don't have any 620 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: fun travel tales to share. As stated, You've got you're 621 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 2: gonna be at Chase Center Thursday night tonight for Kings 622 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: at Warriors Game three. Then where are you going after that. 623 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: From there, then I go to LA and I catch 624 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: the Size and Clippers game four. That game would be Saturday. 625 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 3: Then after that I stay in La, which is cool. 626 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: I got Monday's game Game four between the Lakers and 627 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 3: the Memphis Grizzle. 628 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: Wow, three different series of. 629 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, four days. Yeah, and then after that. 630 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: It's not official yet, but I think I'll finally get 631 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: to do a home game where I reside in Sacramento. 632 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 3: That Wednesday game, which would be that game five? What 633 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 3: game would be next week? Wednesday Warriors? It'll be five? Okay, 634 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 3: that would be five. So yeah, you know, it's crazy. 635 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm second guessing myself, like that that can't 636 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: be five, because that mean King's got Game seven. They 637 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 3: don't have home court advances. It's yes, they do. I forgot. 638 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 3: I forgot. 639 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 4: See it still has a second ar how good the 640 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 4: Kings are? 641 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: Like, what will that be like for you to jump 642 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: from King's Warriors to Suns Clippers to Lakers Grizz will 643 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: be to do three different series and that short of 644 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 2: a span. 645 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: I will have a day in between, so you know, 646 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 3: I can make my calls and you know, do my research. 647 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: So it would be cool because I'm familiar with all 648 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: those teams, so you know, Lakers, Memphis, easy, easy transition, 649 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 3: you know, all you know, a lot of guys have 650 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 3: relationship with already from all those teams, Warriors, Clip, I mean, Warriors, Kings, 651 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: same thing, so that that's an easy transition. Like so 652 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 3: if but if I'm going out East, because I haven't 653 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 3: spent much time East, it depends on the team. But 654 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 3: you know there's a few East teams where you have 655 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 3: to kind of like, all right, you got to dig 656 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 3: a little deeper. But this will be this will be cool. 657 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 4: So all right, let me see, let me see. 658 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 3: So there was one point obviously, you know, for those 659 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 3: who'll know what you know, as I'm doing sidelines, I 660 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: got a seat right there at the scores table, right there. 661 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 3: And that's why Stein loves his Dallas Mavericks media seat 662 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: because he's right there, can hear everything. 663 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 4: Great seat. But there was one point. 664 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 3: In the game, and I thought fans might have caught 665 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 3: this on video because bones Hiler took Chris Paul to 666 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: the rack a few times and after one of the layups, 667 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 3: he after one of the layups, he like went off 668 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: on Chris Paul's like start talking you know, got in 669 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 3: his face, start talking, wolfing, and then he went to 670 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 3: guard whoever he was guarding, and so there was a 671 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 3: stoppage of play not too long after that, and Chris 672 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 3: Paul is over there talking with ty Loo. He's in 673 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 3: Tylu face, and so I had to take out my earpiece. 674 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 3: I'm trying to hear what's going on, and I'm like 675 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 3: really close and I can pretty hear. And he was like, yeah, 676 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 3: a young kid doing all that talking. 677 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 4: Put him on me. Stop being scared. Put him on me. 678 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: Don't go don't go score on me, and they go 679 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 3: and then go up guard somebody else. You want to, 680 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 3: you want to, you want to, you know, you want 681 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 3: to do this right, get on put him on me. 682 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 3: And Lou said nope, that's just time, and he just 683 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 3: turned away and start coaching again. 684 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 4: I said nope. 685 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 3: So that that was the one thing like behind to say, 686 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: I thought, I thought somebody will catch it on camera, 687 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 3: because you could see what Chris Paul was pointing like 688 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 3: at bones, like put him on me, put him on me. 689 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 3: So that's one thing. And then uh, I told you. 690 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: You know I have not I have not worked sideline 691 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: of any kind on a Tylu game since twenty sixteen 692 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: or twenty seventeen. But I found him to be in 693 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 2: my limited time doing sidelines for ESPN Radio, Tylu there 694 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: were there were always in game interactions with Tyler. You 695 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 2: always every single game that that the reporter was in. 696 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, he would just ask me, 697 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 2: was that a foul? What should I I mean, he 698 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 2: would just I mean, he was joking, but like he 699 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: he would just he likes that sideline commentary. 700 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 4: And so let's let's keep it on ty Lou. 701 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 3: As we know, ty Lou is arguably the best best 702 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 3: coach when it comes to X and OS, drawing up plays. 703 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 3: He just gets real creative, you know, with that aspect 704 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 3: of coaching, one of the best. And so Steyle, I 705 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: don't know if you noticed, so he's been he has 706 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: been starting zubots defensively on Tory Craig and you know, 707 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 3: and you would know STI from the time that the 708 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: Clippers the Clippers Mavericks series was a year ago, two 709 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 3: years ago when he started zubots on Luca. And so 710 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 3: these are all like unorthodox like assignments that he puts 711 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 3: on his players and he expects he expects them to execute. 712 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 4: So check it out. I didn't get to use this. 713 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 4: So I went up to Zubos before the game, before 714 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 4: game two and. 715 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 3: I said a zoo, like, what's your reaction when coach 716 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 3: Lou comes to you, like with these crazy defensive assignments, 717 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 3: and like like how do you accept it? 718 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 4: And he started laughing and he was like. 719 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 3: Well, for Toy Craig, he said, I don't care about him, 720 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 3: but the word what. 721 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 4: He said, I'm being. 722 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: I'm being I'm being really uh PG thirteen with how 723 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 3: he said that if you can get my drift. I 724 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 3: don't want to say exactly what he said, but he said, 725 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 3: with Toy Craig, I don't care about him, but Luca, 726 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 3: you gotta you know, it takes more work. I gotta 727 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: put more work and more effort, and I got to 728 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 3: be better prepared to have the assignment like him. And 729 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 3: he said, but with Lou, you know, I trust him. 730 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 3: I trust him, he said, So it may sound strange, 731 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 3: but I trust that he's going to put me in 732 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 3: the best, you know, best situation possible. So that was like, 733 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 3: that was really unique. I wish I could say exactly 734 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 3: what Zubac said. I don't think he would care if 735 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 3: I did say it because he said it knowing it 736 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 3: was on record. But I let that be. They're still 737 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. I don't want to give more bulletin 738 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 3: board material, even though I probably have. And lastly, side, 739 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you about this one. Norman Powell 740 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 3: told me he is pissed, pissed off about not being 741 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 3: one of the three finalists for the sixth Man of 742 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 3: the Year award, being that he led the league in 743 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 3: scoring off the bench. He said it was pissed. He 744 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 3: couldn't believe it when the list came out. He felt 745 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 3: like his body of work, He felt like his body 746 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 3: of work warrned it him being in the top three. 747 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 3: And he feels his disrespectful and he just his pissed. 748 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 3: Does he have a complaint remember the Clippers over the 749 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 3: last Let me see if I have the stat the 750 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 3: Clippers have won. I want to say six of the 751 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 3: nine last six minut of the Year awards. I believe 752 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 3: from the combination of Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Montrez Harrold, 753 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 3: so they steady produced those awards on their team. Does 754 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 3: Norman Powell have a gripe? 755 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I can see why he's surprised he wasn't 756 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 2: at least a finalist, you know, Bobby Portis was. You know, 757 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 2: it's probably you know, Malcolm Brogden and Emmanuel Quickly. I 758 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 2: think it's going to be one of those two who 759 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 2: probably win it and will know this week. Is that 760 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 2: I think that one might even be the Thursday Thursday announcement. 761 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 2: So I guess for third finalist it's between Bobby Portis 762 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 2: and Norman Powell. I mean, I really like the year. 763 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 4: The leading score off the leaders score off the bench. 764 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 2: That I really liked the year Porters had. I think 765 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 2: Porters had had. 766 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 4: A huge Oh no, no doubt, no doubt. I'm arguing three. 767 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 4: I'm arguing top three. 768 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 2: Does he have one of those three? Do we knock out? 769 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 2: I mean that's really the question. I mean, do you 770 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 2: take out quickly? Do you take out Brogden? Do you 771 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 2: take out Portois? 772 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 4: I mean producer Ryan says is five at the last. 773 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 2: Nine, which is a lot. I didn't realize that that's 774 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 2: a lot track of that. Yes, I don't think that 775 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 2: was a factor because I never even heard that stat 776 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: until you said it, So I really don't think that 777 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 2: was a factor. But I mean, I'm glad he told you. 778 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad he told you how he feels about it, 779 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 2: and I'm glad you shared it with because I was 780 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: not aware of that. 781 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 4: No, he said, nobody ever asked him. He said, nobody 782 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 4: asked him. 783 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 2: And I can see what I can see why he's 784 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 2: not happy, for sure. But you know, again, I did 785 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 2: not have an official ballot, but I must confess those 786 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 2: would have been my three finalists as well. I really 787 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 2: think Portois had an amazing year. I don't know why. 788 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: I'm really fascinated about the rebounding situation in the NBA 789 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 2: because I looked this up for my Tuesday newsletter. The 790 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 2: top ten rebounders in the NBA nine are from countries 791 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 2: not named America. The highest American rebounder is number ten, 792 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 2: Julius Randall, but Bobby Portis was thirteenth. I didn't realize 793 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 2: Bobby Portis was that high on the list. I mean, 794 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 2: that's that's quite impressive for a six man. 795 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 4: I mean he you know, he and somebody who plays 796 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 4: with Giannis too, So I. 797 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: Mean that's the thing. Not trying to slight Norm Powell 798 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. I just think it 799 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 2: was a it was a crowded. It's crowded. I mean, 800 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 2: just even getting a finalist spot is crowded. But uh 801 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: no that I'm glad you asked him. It's amazing nobody 802 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: asked him. 803 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, so nobody asked him. So all right, I was 804 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 3: just putting it out there. 805 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: We love hearing about your travelers. Like I said, I'm envious. 806 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 2: It's very weird. I'm home. I don't know what, when 807 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 2: or if I will be attending a playoff game this 808 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: post season, which is just crazy weird. But I get 809 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 2: to live vicariously through Chris Haynes. Say it right, Haynes. 810 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 4: Hanes, Please, Chris Haynes. 811 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: Who's got? So you got Thursday Sons, Clippers, Lakers, Memphis. 812 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 3: Sunday, Thursdays, which is tonight, Warriors, Kings, Saturday Suns Clippers, Monday, 813 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 3: Lakers Grizzlies, and which because we're taping this tonight, we're 814 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 3: taping this on a Wednesday night. Lakers just lost to 815 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 3: the Memphis Grizzlies without job series todd On. 816 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: Glad you threw that in because that was on my 817 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: list to make sure we update the scores as we're 818 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 2: putting this thing to bed. As you said, Memphis without 819 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: jaw wins. Game two evens the series with the Lakers 820 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: at one to one. Milwaukee without Yannis absolutely rolling against Miami. 821 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 2: So it looks like the Bucks are going to tie 822 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 2: that series even without their best player. The lead was 823 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: seventy nine fifty was the last score I saw. Wow, 824 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 2: eighty one fifty five at the half. The Bucks eighty 825 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 2: one points at the half without their best player. Crazy 826 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: Game two and then of course you've got Minnesota at 827 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 2: Denver is the game that will be taking place now 828 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 2: as Chris and I go off the proverbial air. Thanks 829 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 2: A mil for joining us on another edition of This 830 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 2: League Uncut. Sounds like with Chris's schedule falling the way 831 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: it does, hopefully we will be able to record on 832 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 2: our usual Sunday night for Monday morning release schedule. Please rate, 833 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 2: review and subscribe to the pod This League Uncut, Stein 834 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 2: and A. Haynes back with you very soon. Thanks for 835 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 2: joining us everybody, and that'll do it for us. See 836 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 2: you next time. This League Uncut is an iHeartRadio production. 837 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 2: Don't suck a look up 838 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: Chris Hans and marks time