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Speaker 1: The best podcast available is back. I'm Jason Gibbs. To

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Speaker 1: the left of me, the great Andrew Gribble. Best podcast available, Gribbs,

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Speaker 1: We're back, counting down the days to the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: here in well not here, but in sunny Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Right now. It's doing something outside. I have no idea

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Speaker 1: what it's doing, but yeah, you know, this is an

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Speaker 1: interesting I think we tested ourselves out in a huge

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Speaker 1: So that made us dig real deep. So now we're

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Speaker 1: back in a traditional, uh situation with the number ten pick,

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Speaker 1: the next fifteen weeks. Now. The draft is thirteen weeks

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Speaker 1: Will the UH some meet the rookies from rookie Minicamp,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty draft to bed. But we will

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Speaker 1: be with you all the way up to April twenty three,

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Speaker 1: and day one of the Draft from Las Vegas is

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Speaker 1: coming up. On today's podcast, UH happy to be joined

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Speaker 1: by Jimneggi, the executive director of the Reese's Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to that. You've been down to Mobile many times, Yes,

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Speaker 1: another another good event for the for the draft. Yeah, indeed,

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Speaker 1: and it's one of the better events to kick off

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Speaker 1: but it really gets going with the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We uh. We will also do our mock drafts, all

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Speaker 1: that game. Obviously Sam Donald and Josh Rosen were not

429
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Speaker 1: there because they were uh you know, they weren't seniors.

430
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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, it's getting better and better, and

431
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: I think now it's getting to the point where last

432
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: year having ninety three players in the Senior Bowl getting drafted,

433
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 1: I mean that is so much higher than it was

434
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Speaker 1: just ten years ago or so. So this is this

435
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,439
Speaker 1: is where you fill up your roster with with a

436
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Speaker 1: ton of guys that are going to play some major

437
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Speaker 1: roles in your team, whether it be a second round pick,

438
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Speaker 1: late first round. I mean, this is these are the

439
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 1: guys that make up the meat of the draft. Yeah,

440
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 1: no question about it. I know last week you wrote

441
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Speaker 1: about it on clear Len Browns dot com. Or were

442
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: there any other guys that stood out to you, the

443
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 1: guys that maybe Jim didn't touch. He mentioned kJ Hill,

444
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: who had a really big week and it was very

445
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: reminiscent of what Terry McLaurin did the previous year. So

446
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: back to back years where an Ohio State receiver who

447
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 1: maybe might not be the most talented or gifted guy,

448
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: but a guy that produced went on and continued to

449
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: just do that at the Senior Bowl against elevated competition

450
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: and some of the best seniors in the country. So

451
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: he had a very good week. The one guy was

452
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: gonna ask him about what we kind of trended on

453
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 1: different topics was Adam Troutman, the tight end out of Dayton.

454
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Speaker 1: He's gonna be the first. Odds are he's gonna be

455
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: the first drafted player out of Dating since the mid seventies. Uh.

456
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Speaker 1: He's he fits the mold of kind of a bigger

457
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: tight end. He likes blocking, but he can also make

458
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: a ton of players in the passing game. He's someone

459
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Speaker 1: to watch It is interesting because he his prospects status

460
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of that. Remember Adam Shaheen from

461
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He really hasn't done much

462
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Speaker 1: since since coming in the NFL. But but Troutman is

463
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: going to be a guy that UH is gonna elevate

464
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Speaker 1: maybe toward the top of that tight end class because

465
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: it's not not a really good tight end class. I

466
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Speaker 1: think that the top rated tight end UH commit out

467
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame he wasn't there. But really you're probably

468
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: not going to get a first round tight end this year.

469
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 1: But Troutman someone you could maybe look at Day two,

470
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Speaker 1: Day three. He had a very good week down there. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: and I think mel Kiper in his big board has

472
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Speaker 1: him as one of the top number three tight end

473
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: yeah coming out in the draft. So definitely something to

474
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Speaker 1: watch on that end. Yeah, it's it's it's just you

475
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: don't sometimes you have to remember dating as a football team. Yeah,

476
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things where you associate them

477
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: so much a college basketball There are a great college

478
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: basketball school, but they also do a football team. But

479
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Speaker 1: they this is this will be a history making pick,

480
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Speaker 1: maybe the first UH draft pick in nearly forty or

481
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Speaker 1: forty so years. So that's a little recap on the

482
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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Getting the draft process started away, we go

483
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Speaker 1: for the next thirteen weeks leading up to Draft Day

484
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Speaker 1: number one April in last Vegas, Nevada. I know the

485
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: CBD guys were hoping to get a trip there to

486
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: broadcast from radio row. We're not going to do that. No, no, no, no,

487
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: We'll be here. It's a lot easier because the guys

488
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Speaker 1: are here the next day and it makes a lot

489
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: more sense. You know. We we went through a two

490
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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen NFL draft to three first round picks. None

491
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: of them were at the draft, which that that's hard

492
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: to do, you know. And then even in two thousand eighteen,

493
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Speaker 1: I think Denzel might have been there, but Baker Mayfield

494
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: was not there. So it's it's it's a it's a

495
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: it's a tricky event. But you're right, everyone ends up

496
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: coming to us press conferences are here. It's been a

497
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: lot easier better to be in BA. Don't get me wrong.

498
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Speaker 1: I love Vegas. Who doesn't love Vegas? But business comes first,

499
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: all right? The speaking of business, the business of football

500
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: here in Barria with the Cleveland Browns new head coach

501
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: and Kevin Stefanski. And on Monday, we have a new GM.

502
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 1: It's an old face as the yes, but a young one.

503
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Speaker 1: The vice president a player personnel. UH and GM Andrew

504
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: Berry now with the football team, back with the football

505
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: team running the show. Uh. He was with the Eagles

506
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Speaker 1: as their vice president of football operations. Uh. You know,

507
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: already making some moves with regards to his staff and

508
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: a lot to do. Uh. You're gonna have free agency,

509
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: the combine, Pro Days, all this stuff before we even

510
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: get to thirteen weeks from now. But Andrew Berry and

511
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Stevanski, you're gonna be responsible for figuring out who's

512
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Speaker 1: gonna get drafted. A yeah. And when we talk about

513
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: that process, it really does begin first off with evaluating

514
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Speaker 1: your own roster. And I think that's the thing that's

515
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: going to be ongoing here, uh, for the for the

516
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: next few weeks, and especially because you know, with the

517
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Speaker 1: reports out there about your defensive coordinator choice, he's not

518
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: here yet because he's he's busy doing some stuff with

519
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So that even maybe adds a little

520
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: bit more to lay on on projecting how guys are

521
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: gonna fit within the defense. Than you look at their

522
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: their salary number that they make sense for you moving forward?

523
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: How are they going to fit within these new schemes.

524
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: That dictates your decisions in free agency. And then even

525
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: though these things maybe shouldn't go hand in hand, you

526
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: should be drafting to fill up all your areas and

527
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: areas of your roster, not just areas your need. But

528
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: what you do in free agency is gonna have a

529
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: little bit of an effect on what you do in

530
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Speaker 1: the draft. So all of this goes hand in hand.

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Speaker 1: All of this is going to be done at a

532
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Speaker 1: rapid pace because you know, we've got guys in this

533
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: building who are already working on the draft. I mean,

534
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: that's how things operate in the NFL. It's more than

535
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 1: a year long thing. But now you have to make

536
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: a lot of quick uh decisions you would make over

537
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: a longer period time, now over a shorter period time.

538
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: So I think for Andrew Berry, these first couple weeks,

539
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: tons and tons of information gathering and and ultimately at

540
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: some point here you usually do it before the combine.

541
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: You get all your scouts in the building and start

542
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: hashing it out. This is what he's been through before. Uh,

543
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: he'll have his own way of doing things. But uh,

544
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: he's familiar at least with a lot of the guys

545
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Speaker 1: that are still here in the building, and that does

546
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: there is something to be said for that, because they're

547
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: gonna things are gonna happen, and they're gonna happen very

548
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: quickly as we roll into the quote off season. But uh,

549
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: Andrew Berry, a guy with a lot of experience, came

550
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: from a great program and great team in Indianapolis prior

551
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Speaker 1: to his first stint afterwards, I mean the year that

552
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Speaker 1: he spent in Philadelphia with Howie Roseman. I can only

553
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: imagine that you're gonna pull some good knowledge out of

554
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: that building and what those guys do. So uh, those

555
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, I know that there's some questions about Andrew

556
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: Berry and well is he too young? And all that

557
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: this guy has been around. He knows what he's doing

558
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting to see how this all

559
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: plays out. Yeah, you know, when you get hired as

560
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Speaker 1: a VP of player Personnel at the age of nine,

561
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: you're on the fast path to being a g M.

562
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Speaker 1: And I think that it was it was headed this way, Uh,

563
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: no matter what, whether it was going to be with

564
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: the Browns or not. I mean Andrew Berry was going

565
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: to be a GM here in the next couple of years.

566
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: Early there was some interest by Carolina, but they couldn't

567
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: at that time guarantee full control the fifty three man roster,

568
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: so he didn't didn't do the interview there. So it's

569
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: clearly a respected name in the business. And and like

570
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: I said on CBD earlier this week, when you go

571
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: back and look at the press release, when you uh

572
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: when we announce him as the VP of Player Personnel,

573
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: the one quote there outside the buildings from the most

574
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Speaker 1: old school GM and that you can think of and

575
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: Bill Pollian, but now he's associated with kind of new

576
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: way of thinking, analytic based thinking. He's just a smart,

577
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: gifted guy and I think that he really But he

578
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: comes from the football background, played at Harvard, uh was

579
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: was a pro scout evaluator for so many years for

580
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Speaker 1: the Colts. So this guy has a mix of a

581
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: lot of different things, which is what you see in

582
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: guys who end up becoming gms, because it is more

583
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: than being a scout, it is more than knowing analytics.

584
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: It's a it's a combination of everything. And I think

585
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: the Bronze believe they've got kind of the right mix

586
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: and most importantly, the right guy to work with with

587
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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski and finding guys that fit what the coach

588
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Speaker 1: wants to do. Before we get into our mock draft segment,

589
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: the draft is in Vegas. Let's go back to that

590
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: real quick, because you know that this whole taking the

591
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: show on the road I think has been good for

592
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: the National Football League, and obviously it's gonna really be

593
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: good for us a year from now when it comes

594
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. But uh, Vegas is a whole other dynamic,

595
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: and now you're talking about putting players on boats and

596
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: really turning it into quite the spectacle. And this is, uh,

597
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a little different than than Nashville,

598
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: than Philly, than Chicago, than anything that I think we've

599
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Speaker 1: seen here. Yeah, it'll be interesting, I think, mostly because

600
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Speaker 1: it's gonna almost feel like a United Nations type crowd

601
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Speaker 1: of NFL fans, you know what I mean, because I don't.

602
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Speaker 1: There's not even though there's probably gonna be a lot

603
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: of Raiders fans in there that are excited about them,

604
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: you don't have the years of fan base and excitement

605
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: about that team in Las Vegas and I think that's

606
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Speaker 1: what's gonna be neat about Pas Vegas games in general

607
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: throughout these first few seasons. I think they're gonna do

608
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: better obviously than the Chargers do with their fans, but

609
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: these are gonna be those games where you see a

610
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: huge road presence. Every year. Fans are gonna be planning

611
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: their Vegas trips to go see their favorite team play

612
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: the Raiders, and that's what it's gonna I think that's

613
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Speaker 1: what made Las Vegas such a exciting possibility for the

614
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Speaker 1: NFL for so many years. While you've been hearing about

615
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas as a potential destination, and it'll be neat

616
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Speaker 1: to see it. And I think it starts with the draft,

617
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: and you know it is really it is crazy to

618
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Speaker 1: go back. I mean, it's more crazy to even remember

619
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't so long ago when the draft started on Saturday.

620
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's how much things have changed, where

621
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: that seems like years ago, but it really wasn't that

622
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: long ago. It was it was early morning when we

623
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: saw Joe Thomas get drafted and be on a boat.

624
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean that that wasn't too long ago. So it's

625
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: the draft is certainly evolved. It's only getting bigger and bigger. Uh,

626
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be. To me, what makes a draft

627
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: exciting is if there's any doubt going into the number

628
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Speaker 1: one pick. And right now we we don't really feel

629
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: like there's going to be so that that to me

630
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: diminishes the excitement a little bit, because there's no doubt

631
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: it seemingly from anyone who's gonna be number one pick,

632
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: or even there's gonna be the number two pick. It's

633
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 1: almost like the draft starts at number three. Yeah, and

634
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: that's where I was going next. The Bengals don't have

635
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: to tell us who they're taking at number one, but

636
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: they're really not gonna, I think, or even contemplate trading

637
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: this number one pick, are they? I mean, unless you

638
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: get the total Godfather offer, which is always a possibility.

639
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams got that offer for for r

640
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: G three way back when, and they traded out that

641
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: traded out of that pick. Uh in two thousand and

642
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: eleven team that doesn't have a quarterback. No, And that's

643
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Speaker 1: why what's interesting, But it is funny because so the

644
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: the interesting thing is they got to work really close

645
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert all week this past week. Justin Herbert

646
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: could have been maybe the number one quarterback last year

647
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: had he gone pro, I mean maybe behind Kyler Murray.

648
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Speaker 1: But he would probably have been in this same draft

649
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: position last year as he is this year. But the

650
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: Bengals got so Herbert got the head start with that.

651
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: With that Bengals coaching staff, UH worked a lot with them.

652
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: I think ultimately the end of the day, it's gonna

653
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Speaker 1: be Joe Burrow unless something crazy happens. You know, you

654
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: don't want to risk anything. But the combine at all

655
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff I do have it is funny

656
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: because I mean Bengals fans. We saw it in Cincinnati

657
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: in December when we were down there, there was already

658
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: already a sign for Joe Burrow in the stands because

659
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: they have they clinched the number one pick. But I

660
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: have a friend, one of my good friends, UH is

661
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: a huge Bengals fan, and I literally all I do

662
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: throughout the last month, as I've sent him tweets or

663
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Speaker 1: articles that is casting any doubt on Joe Burrow being

664
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Speaker 1: the number one pick. It's my new favorite thing to do.

665
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Speaker 1: So I sent him a picture of of I think

666
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: it was the old Bengals Oh Line coach the earlier

667
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: this week that said at a done deal that they're

668
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Speaker 1: considering all options, including Justin Herbert. I just sent him

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Speaker 1: the link about Carson Palmer. He would advise Joe Burrow

670
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: to think twice about going to Cincinnati, and so I

671
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: like to to poke the bearl a little bit, but

672
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: it just seems like we ultimately know at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day that that's what this is gonna be,

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Speaker 1: and and all of a sudden, the A F. C.

675
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Speaker 1: North is just loaded at the quarterback position, which is

676
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Speaker 1: not something we want to see. What do you make

677
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: of Justin Herbert? I mean, he's really tall, and I

678
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: think that's that's the first day way he's really good,

679
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: and I think that he's he's really good. I think

680
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm rooting for him to at least

681
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: be good on draft day because then it bumps down

682
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Speaker 1: the position players for the Browns at number ten. But

683
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: he's he's there's been the concern that now we're hearing

684
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Speaker 1: the debate is he too tall, which is like the

685
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: old question about brock Osweiler and things like that. But

686
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Speaker 1: I think he's fighting to be the number two quarterback

687
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: in this draft against an injured to taga Bloa. I

688
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: mean that's that's what's interesting it. But now with the

689
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: Chargers moving on from Rivers, I mean, that's that's a

690
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: team that could be linked to Herbert. But ultimately he

691
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: could be someone that teams trade up to to get

692
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Speaker 1: because I think that he fits more of those old

693
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: prototypes that you might want to see out of out

694
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: of a quarterback. But he's also athletic. We saw him

695
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Speaker 1: running a bunch in the in the Rose Bowl this

696
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Speaker 1: earlier this month. I mean he's got yeah, So he's

697
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: he's a new style quarterback that can help out these teams.

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Speaker 1: And I think that there are more teams that are

699
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Speaker 1: gonna be willing to move into this first part of

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Speaker 1: the first round than there maybe were last year. All right,

701
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Speaker 1: let's get down to it. It is time for our

702
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: mock draft segment. We have three big ones because usually

703
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: about this time, everybody that's anybody in the NFL Draft

704
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Speaker 1: puts out their mock drafts. And we kick it off

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Speaker 1: with Bucky Brooks on NFL dot Com. His first mock draft,

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Speaker 1: Tristan Worth's the offensive tackle from Iowa junior and the

707
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Speaker 1: comment the Browns need another rock solid edge blocker in

708
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Speaker 1: the starting lineup. Just a little tease. This position is

709
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: gonna come up a lot in this segment when it

710
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Speaker 1: comes to the Browns at number ten. I did a

711
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: mock draft round up for Cleveland Roun's dot com and

712
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: it was all offensive tackles, so it last week there

713
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: was at least a couple of different positions thrown in there.

714
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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing is what I've been looking at

715
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Speaker 1: in these in these mock drafts with these different offensive tackles,

716
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: is it's everyone ranks him a little bit differently. And

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Speaker 1: I think that Uh, from Bucky's perspective, he would in

718
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: his situation, would have Tristan Works be the third tackle

719
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: off the board behind the Gendrick Wills, UH and Andrew Thomas,

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Speaker 1: and he expects four tackles to go in the top eleven.

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Speaker 1: So that that's that's different than we've seen in year

722
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Speaker 1: years past. The one thing of note with Worths and

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Speaker 1: I definitely don't think this would happen here, but Daniel

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00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: Jeremiah in the past has projected Works as a potential guard,

725
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: which I think he could still play tackle, but clearly

726
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: he's got some versatility and could maybe in the different

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Speaker 1: situations be a guard. Three quarterbacks going in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: You know, Burrow at one, Uh, he's got Tega Viola

729
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: from Alabama, number five, Herbert at number six, to the

730
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Speaker 1: to the Chargers. I mean, everything stays pretty pretty even.

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Speaker 1: It is funny because the wide receiver class is so

732
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: good this year, but hardly hardly a mention here in

733
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: the in these first few everybody drafting, UH, lineman, whether

734
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Speaker 1: it's defensive lineman, whether it's offensive lineman or quarterback or

735
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: that safety that I love, Isaiah. I was, I was

736
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Speaker 1: running on the treadmill this morning, and I was seeing

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Speaker 1: the scrolls as NFL Network does these mock drafts with

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Speaker 1: the scrolls, and it's it's crazy. It's like the wide

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00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: receiver runs starts at like thirteen, and it's like all

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Speaker 1: these teams that you think are pretty good just adding

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, like the Cowboys, Uh, just a bunch of

742
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: of different offenses. And that's why it was interesting that

743
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Speaker 1: the comment that was made, uh before the Citrus Bowl

744
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: or whatever it's called now, where Nick Saban said no

745
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: one on his team was projected as the top fifteen

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00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: pick except for two of them. And I think that

747
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 1: that's that was crazy because Jerry Judy was like, going

748
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: into this, you think we're gonna be a top five pick,

749
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: but it it might not make sense with some of

750
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: these teams in the top ten. It seems like a

751
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: lot of these top ten teams don't need wide receivers,

752
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: they just need other positions to need. All right, we

753
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: move on. Daniel Jeremiah at NFL dot com, the draft

754
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: Guru taking over from Mike Mayock his second year, is

755
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: the lead draft analyst on NFL dot Com, and he

756
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: has the Browns at number ten, taking Andrew Thomas, the

757
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: junior offensive tackle out of Georgia, and his comment the

758
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: Browns must upgrade their offensive tackle situation. Thomas has some

759
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: areas for improvement, but he'll be too tempting to pass up.

760
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: Does that mean that we're talking about a work in progress,

761
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: some things that need to be done. If I'm picking

762
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Speaker 1: at number ten, I'm kind of kind of want to

763
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: plug and play. But Thomas interests me in that it

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00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: looks like he could play both the tackle spots if

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00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: he wanted to, and the Browns could have some needs

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Speaker 1: at both of the tackle spots, so that that's something

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00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: that's to me. He he to me, seems like the

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00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: guy that might have the biggest upside, but it might

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Speaker 1: be the tougher transit and of the group. So it

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Speaker 1: really what it comes down to is is the what

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Speaker 1: your evaluation ultimately ranks these tackles. It so I think

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Speaker 1: with these four tackles that keep getting mentioned in the

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Speaker 1: top ten, I think each team is going to grade

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Speaker 1: these guys differently, And it ultimately wouldn't surprise me if

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00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: a team like a Cleveland, a team like someone someone

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00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: else that maybe the Cardinals that are going after these tackles.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't surprise me if if some teams ultimately have to

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Speaker 1: trade up to get the guy that they really want

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00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: for their specific offense. Yeah, and and again, I think

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00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: a lot of things are in play. I mean Arizona,

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00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: Arizona has a quarterback. I think they would be willing

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00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: to listen if someone fell. Uh. I don't Jacksonville. I

783
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 1: think Jacksonville is gonna be the tough team to read

784
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: right in front of you. But Miami the Chargers, I mean,

785
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: maybe the Giants would be looking to move to package

786
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: some things up at number four to jump ahead of Miami.

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00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: Uh for one of those you know, the second or

788
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: third best quarterback in the draft. But it definitely looks

789
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: like Burrow one, Chase Young two. As we talked about Okuda,

790
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: the defensive back, the corner from Ohio State, very talented corner.

791
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: Keep seeing him at number three, but I think anything

792
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: is in play because again, Washington's got a quarterback. Yeah enough.

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00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: Note a friend of the show, Dame Bruegler, says Thomas

794
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: has shock absorbers for hands and he projects him as

795
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Speaker 1: an early starter. So that I think there's some just

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00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: there's some Dame like yeah. So there there's clearly some

797
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: team people like Andrew tom is better than others. It

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00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: seems to me a lot more like Jedrick Will's the

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00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: best out of Alabama. He's been one that has not

800
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: been linked to the Browns too much because it seems

801
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: like he comes off the board first. But maybe if

802
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: you do do get lucky. I have seen mock drafts

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Speaker 1: where the Browns do get the top offensive tackle there choosing. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see them, all right. We

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00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: move on to Mel Kuyper JR. ESPN dot Com draft

806
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: analysts extraordin there at number ten, he has the Browns

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Speaker 1: taking McCay I, Beckton I'm sure I probably just butchered that.

808
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: Did I butcher that? It's McKay. It's McKay. Yeah, alright, see,

809
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: all right, I'm one for one. Gribbs prepped me on

810
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: it before, and I told him I was gonna mess

811
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Speaker 1: it up by the time it got to me out

812
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: of Louisville. The offensive tackle and Mel's comments, I'm not

813
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: quite sure what to make of him. This is a

814
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: tough pick to project because the Browns don't even have

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Speaker 1: a GM yet. We do have a GM now. Just

816
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: a quick heads up, but Cleveland's clear weakness in was

817
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: at left tackle. Greg Robinson was in and out of

818
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: the starting line up there and is now a free agent.

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Speaker 1: He's not the long term answer. If the Browns can't

820
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: upgrade there in free agency, they should look to the draft.

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Speaker 1: Beckton six seven, three hundred seventy pounds take a minute

822
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: to process that mountain of a man is rising since

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00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: he declared for the draft, and scout's got to look

824
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: at his two thousand nineteen film. Great feet for his size,

825
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 1: can plow through defenders in the running game. The last

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle the Browns took in the first round, Joe Thomas,

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Speaker 1: a number three and two thousand and seven Affecton can

828
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Speaker 1: come close to Thomas the ceiling. New coach Kevin Stefanski

829
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: can stick around a long time, which we're all hoping for.

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Speaker 1: It's it's issue me though that Mel describes like as

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Speaker 1: if like he's coming out of like a Division three school,

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Speaker 1: that these scouts are discovering his tape. And he played

833
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Speaker 1: at Louisville and they were pretty good last year, like

834
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Speaker 1: they stunk the year before that, but there they were

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Speaker 1: good this past year. I mean that they were second

836
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Speaker 1: in the A C C Atlantic behind Clemson. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. And to me, with that size,

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Speaker 1: that makes me wonder could he be more of a

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Speaker 1: right tackle? Could he be more of your maller on

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00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: that side? And but but we'll see. I mean, he's

841
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: one of those people where it seems of the four,

842
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: the opinions are maybe the most mixed on him right now.

843
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: So maybe there isn't just a ton of information on

844
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: this guy right now. But it is interesting that we

845
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: talked a lot about the Senior Bowl and how there

846
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: was a bunch of good left tackles down there, all

847
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: four of these guys that that we're being mentioned, these

848
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: are all declare early guys. So this is such a

849
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: stark different from just a couple of years ago when

850
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: I remember when the Browns are going through the process

851
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eighteen, the first year post Joe Thomas,

852
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: You're thinking Brown's gotta get a left tackle, but that

853
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: draft just didn't have any left tackles at all. This

854
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: seems like the opposite of that, where there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of options where you can upgrade at that position.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's crucial because we talked about for

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Speaker 1: the free agency crop, there's there's little to be had

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Speaker 1: outside of maybe a couple of potential rentals for for

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Speaker 1: a year or two that are are near the end

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Speaker 1: of their careers. Uh, this is the draft where you

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Speaker 1: have to stock up and why I can't rule out

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Speaker 1: the possibility of drafting multiple at this position because you

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Speaker 1: just don't have a ton of depth at that position

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Speaker 1: on your roster right now. All right, So that's this

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Speaker 1: week's mock drafts. They are the big ones. Next week

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Speaker 1: we're probably gonna have to pull something. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to go deep to find the next round of mock

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Speaker 1: draft because I think everybody takes a little time now

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Speaker 1: to process things until we get closer to the NFL combine,

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Speaker 1: which is about five weeks from right now. Final thoughts

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Speaker 1: from you on episode and we've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff to talk about. It's just you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it might be a little tough talking lineman for the

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Speaker 1: next ten to twelve weeks, but it's what you need.

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Speaker 1: This is we saw the Browns and Johns in nineteen

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Speaker 1: needed to be better on the offensive line, especially at

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Speaker 1: the tackle positions. I mean, this may not be the

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Speaker 1: sexiest year of talking prospects would be a lot easier

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Speaker 1: to talk about Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs, those kind of guys,

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Speaker 1: but uh, these are the guys that can win you

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Speaker 1: win your games that matter, all right. We want to

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Speaker 1: thank Paul Taylor spending the dials on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the glass and keeping us up and running, and

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Speaker 1: getting us up and running. We have graphics, we have logos,

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Speaker 1: and speaking of logos, Ricky Sowinski, Uh with an outstanding

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Speaker 1: He created all the things behind us to make us

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl dot Com. Nice little January vacation and Bill.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, have a nice little time. Andrew Gribble,

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Speaker 1: outstanding to have you back. Looking forward to the season,

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Speaker 1: the off season, as we like to call it. That

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Speaker 1: really is the season that sets everything. No, it really

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