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Speaker 1: You used to rap rate our podcast. My name is

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Speaker 1: beat Out.

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Speaker 2: Elliott Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Elliott the Butcher has come.

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Speaker 2: He cockered, hero conquered. Yes, he has def GMOs is

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Speaker 2: a check beat Out. You know what I'm saying. We

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Speaker 2: was the rollout man put Betty in position. Man, I

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Speaker 2: love it, Ben. The episode came out, Uh the Big

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Speaker 2: Dog record with Lil Wayne. People see the luck.

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Speaker 1: They like it, man, they like it right, b I

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Speaker 1: love when the stars come together.

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Speaker 3: And this wasn't planninged though, you know, like, yeah, it

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Speaker 3: just happened serendipitously, and I love it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: The record is fire. The conversation was fire all. It's

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Speaker 3: off to Jeff jam now though. Man, they got to

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Speaker 3: release the project.

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Speaker 2: Yo, no pressure game but to gi all the wonderful

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Speaker 2: saying is beat Out talking to mess He said this

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Speaker 2: is one of the best albums. Beat Out so critical.

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Speaker 2: But the way he's praising this Benny the Butcher album,

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Speaker 2: he heard stuff we haven't heard. What's going on with

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Speaker 2: Beata's critique of this Belly the Butcher album.

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Speaker 1: I give props when they do. It's so weird when

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Speaker 3: I'm like, like, yo, I give people their flowers when

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Speaker 3: it's the right time, you know, when it's appropriate.

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Speaker 1: I guess I guess my critiques allowed in my praise.

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Speaker 2: I feel like your critics are like curveballs, like they

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Speaker 2: don't know what it's coming. They don't know how It's

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Speaker 2: like they know you throw strikes, but they don't know

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Speaker 2: what it's coming. They're like, who's gonna get it? Who's this?

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Speaker 3: Anybody?

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Speaker 1: Anybody could get it.

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Speaker 2: That's anybody could get it. And I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 2: if I'm a Rat fan, you definitely got to run

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Speaker 2: that rapp or our podcast back with Benny because I

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Speaker 2: feel like, you know, like we said, we heard a lot.

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Speaker 2: We were a blessed shout to chase out to this team.

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Speaker 2: We were blessed to hear early versions of some songs,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like we gave a lot of people

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Speaker 2: the information about the album in advance, and Benny's ecstatic

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, so I think it's dope.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a puzzle, right to see, like

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Speaker 1: I think the version that we heard, for the most

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Speaker 1: and hopefully it is because I think this is the

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Speaker 1: fans have been asking for. So I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 2: Benny the Butcher Man, Yeah, sert Man, Griselda Man. Somebody

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Speaker 2: said you this is your eighty fifth interview with Griselda.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, man, what the fuck stop hating?

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Speaker 3: No't be hating, man, what's the rap rate our podcast

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm saying it was a completed thing too now,

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Speaker 2: because we had Westside Gun by himself, We did Conway

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Speaker 2: by himself. We had had to get the Butcher by himself.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had to make this a complete Its

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Speaker 2: the only way. And you know, think about us beat out,

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Speaker 2: We go out and get the stories. Man. We never hesitated.

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Speaker 2: We've been many exotic places. We've been a Budapest, Hungary.

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Speaker 2: We've been to uh Canada, Toronto, Canada, we're gone. One

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Speaker 2: time we went to where do we go? We talked

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Speaker 2: to was it take? Keith went out to him.

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Speaker 3: For one day?

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Speaker 2: What was he in Memphis? What was he?

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Speaker 1: I think he was in Memphis.

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Speaker 2: We just will go anywhere. We'll get in the plane,

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Speaker 2: We'll go anywhere. Yes, it's the first time to raperate

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Speaker 2: our podcast episodes taped in a fine place doing this Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: California, Sacramento and sacked. Hewn told dB yes, but he

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Speaker 1: had the pleasure of talking to the lovely talented Victoria Money.

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Speaker 2: Yo, I'm not I wasn't even that up on Victoria Money.

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Speaker 3: You know absolutely. I love the fact that you said

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Speaker 3: She's almost like a seasoned rookie. She's been in the

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Speaker 3: now she's finally getting her props and her flowers. It's like,

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Speaker 3: Victoria Manet is the hottest ticket in town. I told

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Speaker 3: she's the hottest name in R and B because it's like,

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Speaker 1: She sings, she has crazy breath control, like she's she's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's dope because the people so critical R

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Speaker 2: a smash manlet's get that's getting bigger and bigger. I

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Speaker 2: of it's already established it. I feel like that record's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, it's one of those songs that when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and video of course is exemplary. Man, it's so fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the dude I Look Good at? Charlie Boy's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good to talk to her about about that.

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Speaker 3: And of course she's hitting the rope. Actually the tour

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Speaker 3: over see soon, first time over sit Yeah, yep, touch

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Speaker 1: And of course we talked about the album Motherhood. We

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, man, I think if you're a

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Speaker 2: like it's her best interview. Man. That's why, that's why

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Speaker 2: these artists. Man, you can't front of the Rapperate our podcasts. Man,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna sit in front of us, gonna sit in

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Speaker 2: best interview to really tell your story. Man, this is

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Speaker 1: Best interviews or your money back guarantee.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about the money back, man. Best interviews though,

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Speaker 2: best interviews. Man, you don't get your art needs to

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Speaker 2: be critiqued. Man, let's stop making such a big deal

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Speaker 2: about these interviews. Man, just sit down, man talk.

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Speaker 3: Man, you had a good conversation with Victoria, So that's

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Speaker 3: all that counts.

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Speaker 2: That's all it counts.

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Speaker 2: You know, and we ended in the fourth quarter right now,

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Speaker 2: the season two of the Rapperate our podcast is winding down.

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Speaker 2: We got a couple more slots were about to hit

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Speaker 2: you at the end of the year, you know, beat

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Speaker 2: be you still feel good about that he was telling

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Speaker 3: Listen, it's the knife, end it, man, bottom of the knife.

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Speaker 1: Guess how you're gonna crack man?

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Speaker 2: Exactly man, the rapp right up? Boys, what it gonna crack? Man?

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Speaker 2: We apply pressure, man, We don't let the pressure get

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Speaker 2: to us. Man, we apply pressure. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But let's get into it though.

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Speaker 2: Right The loveliest talented man Victoria Monet V Monet, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: and the rap rate on podcasts, Yeah, rap right up? Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Elliott Wilson's name is beat I I what's up baby?

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Speaker 3: Looking good? Elliott?

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Speaker 2: Feeling good? Man. We in Sacramento. Yes, I'm all away

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Speaker 2: here to see this lovely lady.

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Speaker 3: Hey Monette, I just name an R and B.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely Sacramento. Like we just got here. What's going on

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Speaker 4: You know what? So much has changed since I moved.

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Speaker 4: I moved away in two thousand and nine, so I'm

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Speaker 4: learning a little bit today. Like you are, but Sacramento

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Speaker 4: lots of diversity, great musical taste. There's also like left

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Speaker 2: And do you think the environment kind of spurred your creativity?

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Speaker 3: It seems like every city you're in you're owning right

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Speaker 3: now this year.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we all to congratulations on the success of the tour.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: You an now sit back in September, the tickets sold

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Speaker 4: Oh my god. I got cussed out so bad online.

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Speaker 4: They were like we were the tickets were in our

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Speaker 4: I added it to my car. You need to do

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Speaker 2: It for long, even like with like the Fallent appearance, right,

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you so much. That means a lot.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate absolutely. The breath control was crazy. I saw

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Someone commented that I should just

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Speaker 2: I was saying that the guy was a Charlie Charlie Boy.

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Speaker 4: He killed it.

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Speaker 2: He's great that you don't paid him home is putting

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Speaker 4: He killed it. Yes, he was singing, and I was like,

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Speaker 4: like probably two or three am. Finally her turn. And

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00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 4: so when we got her on camera, she was like, oh,

435
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,199
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. What do I do?

436
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 4: I was like, let me just dance. You got it,

437
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,919
Speaker 4: And so the camera turned on, she goes and she

438
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 4: just starts hitting a.

439
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 2: Bunch of people.

440
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, who is this? The dancers were all shocked.

441
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,200
Speaker 4: It was just such a great moment. And then I

442
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 4: also had my daughter in the video, so it just

443
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,679
Speaker 4: seems like a multi generational, really good feeling that we

444
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 4: have on film that can like a home video but

445
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 4: for the world. You know.

446
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 3: I think the moment that everyone loves is that part

447
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 3: where you take off the jackets and oh.

448
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 2: My god, that's so fluid.

449
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, how many takes did y'all do to get

450
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:46,880
Speaker 3: that one right?

451
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 2: One?

452
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 4: Literally one we had one take. When you get start

453
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 4: to get in production, it just people start moving fast

454
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 4: and we have to be out of the venue at

455
00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 4: a certain time, and like you just start to cut stuff,

456
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 4: but you plan to film, and that scene was one

457
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 4: that was going to be cut. I was like, we

458
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 4: gotta let's just hit it one time. So we just

459
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 4: had to nail it and get it done. And I

460
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 4: thought originally it was going to have like more angles

461
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 4: and stuff, but it just worked out exactly how it

462
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 4: was supposed to be perfect. I'm trying to see if

463
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 4: someone can figure out how to do it, like if

464
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 4: a TikToker, if somebody can like get it right. I

465
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 4: haven't seen it yet.

466
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,439
Speaker 3: What that we haven't seen it? How much closer are

467
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 3: we all to the makan A Stallion on My Mama remix?

468
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you tell me, because I really have

469
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 4: been like trying to manifest that I did hang with

470
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 4: her the other night for Halloween. Didn't mention that. I

471
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 4: feel like it wasn't the time and place, but like

472
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 4: that's the one, like that's the one feature. Well, there's

473
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 4: a couple, but definitely her, definitely Beyonce. It would be

474
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 4: like obviously dream Renaissance. Yes, I just it just makes

475
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 4: so much sense to just being that they're both from Texans.

476
00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 4: It's Texas and just such a cultural thing, right. But

477
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 4: I would be honored if it's not that just doing

478
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 4: anything with me because people say that we're twins. So

479
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 4: we were talking about it. We were like, we finally

480
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 4: proved that we're two different people.

481
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 2: Oh, you hadn't met. That was the first time.

482
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 4: We've seen each other in passing it an award show,

483
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 4: and then this was really the first time we had

484
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 4: a full conversation. Yeah in costume, in costume, yeah, well

485
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 4: on Halloween costumes. It was fun.

486
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 3: Sticking on a wrap though. You know, although, like I said,

487
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 3: you're the hottest name in R and B, your producer

488
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 3: d Mile you said you're a rap on the low

489
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 3: for real, for real punch lines, be punching. I love

490
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: the line on O Mama you say, I'm so deep

491
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 3: in my bag like a grandma. Wouldn't a peppermint?

492
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

493
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: Visual always hip a peppermint?

494
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 4: Yes, isn't it true? That's that church?

495
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? But do you join inspiration from like rappers and

496
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: hip hop?

497
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 4: I definitely love hip hop so much and just being

498
00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 4: a dancer, dancing to hip hop you always get. You

499
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 4: listen to the music a lot, learning the choreography, so

500
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: you get to hear some lyrics over and over again

501
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 4: and try to get dissect what it means. The cadences

502
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 4: are super cool. I feel like they just be talking

503
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 4: shit so much and it's really fun. So I like

504
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 4: to try to do that in my music. Just talk

505
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 4: a little bit, but make it pretty and melodic, but

506
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 4: also just like have fun, fun with it.

507
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: How did you develop as a songwriter?

508
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 4: I do it a lot. I feel like ten thousand

509
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 4: plus hours really, and then also sharing space with other

510
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 4: people that you are inspired by can really help. Listening

511
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 4: to different types of music. I think one thing that

512
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: helped me is like, instead of always listening to what

513
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: is being played right now today, I'll go back and

514
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 4: still listen to like seventies music, or like sometimes just

515
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 4: like motown, or listen to like Brazilian seventies music, like

516
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 4: just trying to like change it up. Listen to Shot

517
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 4: for a little bit because she's very poetic, just switching

518
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 4: it up and drawing inspiration from things that aren't at

519
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 4: maybe mainstream right now, so that you can differentiate yourself

520
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 4: from maybe what is.

521
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: Like trendy, you know, And although you've written songs and

522
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: hooks for others, like, are there moments where you want

523
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: to keep them all to yourself?

524
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 4: No, I really enjoy writing for other people. I think

525
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: that my voice everything is not for my voice and

526
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 4: not for my style and not for my my I

527
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 4: guess my message. Like there's so many different ways to

528
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: express myself when I feel like being a songwriter allows

529
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: me to jump into someone else's world, Like what if

530
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 4: I wanted to write a country song and Victoria Monet

531
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 4: as an artist is not at that place right now,

532
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 4: So like it's cool to just be able to like

533
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: spread ideas across and like, you know, have conversations with

534
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 4: people that maybe bring their ideas to life. Like if

535
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 4: I sat down with a country artists or like of

536
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 4: death metal artists or its something like, and they tell

537
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 4: me what's going on with their life, I'd be able

538
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 4: to express that completely differently than how I would say

539
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 4: it in that same situation in my own song. So

540
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 4: it's just like being a painter and having different colors

541
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: to use, you know.

542
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 2: How do you view a Victoria Monais soon, Like what

543
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: are the elements in there that I assist that you think?

544
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 4: For Jaguar Era, it's definitely horns. Music's very horny. Yeah, yes,

545
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 4: lots of horns. I love live music, live instrumentation. I

546
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 4: feel like That's another element sonically that I really stand by.

547
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 4: It's using live musicians. I also love just being a

548
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: little bit playful, and that since I write my own music,

549
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 4: it maybe flows a little bit easier, just because I

550
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: don't have to consult, I guess, with anybody to say

551
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 4: like do you like this idea? Should we say this?

552
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: It's just all in here, so like it's just kind

553
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 4: of a little bit more free, free flowing for me.

554
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: But yeah, the goal in any session of writing any

555
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 4: song is just to make the best song possible that day,

556
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: with whatever tools that you have that day. I feel

557
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: like ideas are like things that blow in the wind,

558
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: and if you catch one, you're lucky, and if you

559
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 4: let it go, it goes to somebody else some different time.

560
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 4: But it's unlimited. So like if you go on the studio,

561
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: you're gonna get whatever you have. You know, if your

562
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 4: hands are open, something will land.

563
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: And I read one of your interviews when you said

564
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 2: sometimes you almost have to just get the bad ideas

565
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: out if it isn't clicking right, and just stay in it, just.

566
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 4: Go yeah, yeah, just just it's kind of an exercise,

567
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 4: like I guess, you know, if you practice seven days

568
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 4: a week. One of those days might not be as good,

569
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: but then maybe the seventh day is the game. But

570
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 4: if you didn't do the sixth day that was bad,

571
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 4: maybe it'll end up being on your game day. So

572
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: it's like you just gotta keep working.

573
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: Or a year ago, you said you wanted to make

574
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: a classic love song that Anita Baker would be, Yes,

575
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 3: you feel like you've done that yet, Well.

576
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 4: I'd have to hear from her. I'd have to hear

577
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: from her, but I I feel like, yes, that's the one.

578
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 4: I feel like. Would would uh, I would guess she

579
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: may be proud of But I am going to see

580
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: her in December. Yeah, I'm going to go to her show.

581
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: So if we ever get a chance to speak, and

582
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 4: if she's even listened at all, I would. I would

583
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 4: hope that I've made her proud because she's inspired me

584
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: so much and just brought so many moments, so much color,

585
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 4: so much more color with her music.

586
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 3: So it's funny you mentioned how does it feel, Elie?

587
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 3: I love the way that song bleeds into all my mama.

588
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 4: It's crazy, right. There was a there's a composer named

589
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 4: Puranahead out of Detroit who did that transition. And he

590
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: has this orchestra called the Soul Chestra, so it's his

591
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: own string players and people that played live to make

592
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: that transition happen. And we thought it was sick. D

593
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: Mile orchestrated that situation. He knows Barana had very well. Well,

594
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: he also Parana had. Did I did an album live well,

595
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: not last year, the year before of orchestral arrangements of

596
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: Jaguar and Paranahead did all those arrangements as well. So

597
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 4: shout out to Paranhahead one time out of Detroit. But yeah,

598
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 4: he killed that transition.

599
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 2: And D Miley he spoke of he spoke of you earlier.

600
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: What do you make of him?

601
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 3: Like?

602
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: Why is he a go to guy? Like? What makes

603
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: him so special as a producer?

604
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: Well, I think our relationship goes beyond production. When I

605
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 4: moved to atlant in two thousand and nine, like I

606
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: was saying, he was someone who let the girl group

607
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: that I was in stay in his home. He had

608
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 4: a three bedroom apartment with two other guys, and it

609
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 4: was there was like eight of us staying in his

610
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 4: home because they opened their home to us. We didn't

611
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: have any place to go. So our relationship started there

612
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: that's my brother for life. Like whether or not we

613
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 4: do another song, I just know that he's a great

614
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 4: person and he cares about people, and he loves great music,

615
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: and he bases his collaborations more so on that than

616
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 4: who's got the most streams or who's popping. Like he'll

617
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 4: go if you have one listener and he thinks you're incredible,

618
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 4: he'll you knowsional session and get inspired. So I just

619
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: love him so much. I think we have a great

620
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: thing going sonically. But again, even if we never made

621
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 4: another song, like that's my bro.

622
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: I love the fact, like on the album on Draguar two,

623
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 3: you don't stick to traditional formats, like one of my

624
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: favorites is all right, and like the verses are real short.

625
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah you have like three choruses and stuff like that.

626
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: Ain't have like a rap kind of flow too.

627
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just love changing the cadences up a little bit.

628
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 4: I do love like rhythm. Maybe that's something that I

629
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 4: got from dance too, because when you're choreographing hip hop,

630
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: you can dance in between certain rhythms and you like

631
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: pay attention to cadences of lyrics. So like some of

632
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 4: the syncopations and stuff the switches are nice to have

633
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: and song. Yeah, I feel like I try, I know

634
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: the traditional formats of music, but then it's like you

635
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: learn all the rules and then you forget them. You

636
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: can break them, right, Yeah, So I guess that's what

637
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 4: I try to do a little bit, is just switch

638
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: things up. You know, how does it make you feel?

639
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 4: It's not a normal, normal time signature. It switches from

640
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: three four to four to four. So it's like, that's

641
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: another fun thing, you know. Stop asking me for shits

642
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 4: like random. It slows down me to like talk and

643
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: shit Like, I feel like it's just fun to kind

644
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: of just stir stir it up, mix things up.

645
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: Well, stop asking me for inspired by true events.

646
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: Not specifically true events. I think it's just like in general,

647
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 4: you want you to put your phone on to not

648
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: to start, you know. I felt like a very relatable concept.

649
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: And it actually came about because I was writing another

650
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 4: song with DMA on the room and for some reason

651
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: the lyrics to stop asking me for shit came, but

652
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: it wasn't to that beat that was that was looping

653
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: in the studio. So the next day they made a

654
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: beat and I was like, huh, I don't really like it,

655
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: and then the third day, I said, can you just

656
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: play that beat that you guys played yesterday and it

657
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: will stop asking me for shit. But then I just

658
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 4: put the lyrics I had to that, and just like

659
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: it just worked. So you just never know how stuff

660
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: ends up happening for the better good.

661
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: You know, since we talked about Jagua too, it was

662
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: supposed to be a trilogy, right, yes, why'd you scrap

663
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: that idea?

664
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 4: Well, Pandemic. I didn't expect there to be three years

665
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 4: in between these albums. It was going to be like,

666
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: you know, my original plan was just to put three

667
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: projects out so I could microdose people into my music.

668
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: And so I know, attention spands are super short, and

669
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 4: I just wanted to it not overwhelm. I had a

670
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 4: lot of music to give, but not overwhelm them and

671
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: put it all in one project. So I was like,

672
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: let's just split it up. But then when I started

673
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: splitting things up and I just picked the very best

674
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: songs I had, then I was like, I feel like

675
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: this project is not done. And so once I finished

676
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: that it became Jaguar two. I was like, I feel

677
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: like I've completed the sentence that I wanted to say

678
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: with Jaguar so I didn't feel it necessary to do

679
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: a third. I mean, technically there kind of will be,

680
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: because I want to do a Deluxe, So if you

681
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: want to look at that as a third, it could be.

682
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: But I just felt like Jaguar two, I made the

683
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: statement that I wanted to make you.

684
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: Know, You've been even very precise with the rollout throughout

685
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: the whole year, like what made you start with Smoke

686
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: the Lucky Day collaboration.

687
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 4: Between Jaguar one and two. I felt like Smoke was

688
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: the most consistent with the sonics of Jaguar one. So

689
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: I kind of wanted to usher people into the new

690
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 4: era and give them something familiar but still new for Victoria,

691
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 4: and then go into the other eras the other pages

692
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: of Jaguar two, because then I went into Party Girls,

693
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: which is a more like Island, you know, a Jamaican vibe,

694
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 4: and then we went to a nineties early two thousands

695
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: vibe with All My Mama, So it kind of journeys

696
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: you through seventies into like nineties like reggae, into like

697
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: early two thousands Victoria.

698
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: Also, like those promo skits you shot around smoke and

699
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Yeah, acting's fun.

700
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: It's so fun. I'm just like crossing my fingers on

701
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: SNL like. But I have such a great creative team.

702
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: We have a creative group chat and just so fun

703
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: to just throw ideas out there and see what sticks

704
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: and what we can accomplish, how much it's gonna cost

705
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: to do, you know, pull all these ideas together. But

706
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 4: it's really fun to just kind of dabble in the

707
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: acting world but still make it. It's still involved with

708
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: my music because one day I do want to like

709
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: separately act and also write scripts for sitcoms and you know,

710
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: use my pen in that way. You know.

711
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know the visuals are really important to you

712
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: because you're not afraid to do bro for a video

713
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: like a body Girl at the Jamaica moment. You did

714
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: that in South Africa. Yes, so the budget don't make

715
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: mean nothing.

716
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, you don't have to climb the

717
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: pole for smoke.

718
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what I did?

719
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: I worked.

720
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: I worked really hard for that. There was also another

721
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: music video for that I originally pulled danced for for

722
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: Freak and it's just like high respect stripper so much.

723
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: Good God damn say it will stop me from spinning

724
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: us up.

725
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: I was on the spin poole and I was like,

726
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 4: I finally got this move. And the tighter you are

727
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: to the pole, the faster it spins. So it's this

728
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: move where I had to be tight to the poles

729
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: and I finally nailed it. I was like, yes, I

730
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 4: was like I don't know how to stop myself. So

731
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 4: that was that was a time, my god. But now

732
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: I have been to Magic City since and I'm like,

733
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 4: oh my god, oh my god. Crazy. It's like it's

734
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: a different style, but it's just like so much core work.

735
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 4: They are athletes truly, It's like it's insane. So shout

736
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: out to shout out to y'all.

737
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: But what was it like meeting Bouja BoNT On in

738
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: Jamaica doing the video experience.

739
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 2: He is.

740
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: Incredible. He's super powerful. The way he speaks to you

741
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 4: when he wants to say something important, how intense. He

742
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: looks into your eyes and he's like serious. It's almost

743
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: like big bro, like I'm telling you this and I'm

744
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: dead ass, you know. But when I first was talking

745
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 4: to him, it was through WhatsApp because I hadn't gotten

746
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: to Jamaica yet, and so he had to like break

747
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: some things down from because his acts and I was

748
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 4: like what, so he would just like take his time

749
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: with me because he knows something I didn't completely understand.

750
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: But it's really amazing to have someone like that, Like

751
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: your mom was listening to is.

752
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 3: Your mom Caribbean?

753
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 4: No? Okay mobile Ale.

754
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when I heard that vibe yeah that she

755
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: listened to Bouju like till Shallow was one of my

756
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: favorite albums for him, and I'm like, okay, that's very specific.

757
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm like, why did you? I want to know

758
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 4: who introduced her to But she was also listening to

759
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: Uncle Luke, so like she just had maybe some cool

760
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: friends that had great musical taste and just put her on.

761
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 4: But it was in those moments where she was like

762
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: in a great mood and wanted to clean the house

763
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: and like just vibing. So I just feel like I

764
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: have a really cool moment.

765
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah crazy And that song, it's like he just gives

766
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: you a no.

767
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we gave it. When we first gave him

768
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: the song to rap too, it was like still the

769
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: production from the first part of the song. So when

770
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: he gave he gave us his verse back, we were like, oh,

771
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 4: we got to take it to Jamaica. So then a

772
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 4: producer named Drettie came in and recreated the beat under

773
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 4: his verse, so it felt more like his world. Oh wow,

774
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: just like it turned it all the way up. So

775
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 4: it was just like such an amazing back and forth

776
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: process of making that that record and then the video too,

777
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, dang, maybe I need to make I

778
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 4: need to make a song that where I can go

779
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 4: to Greece, you know, like specifically so I can travel

780
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 4: to do the video there. But yeah, it was really

781
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: awesome mixed me.

782
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: Then you returned to favor you on his album Yes

783
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: Touching Body, Yes.

784
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: Yes, it's swap.

785
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. He was like, do you have any songs

786
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: that that you think I could write on in the end,

787
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 4: So when I sent that, he was like like, basically

788
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 4: just wait till I send you back this record. So

789
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 4: it's just so cool, like some of the things that

790
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: you think of as a kid that seems so distant

791
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 4: that you just got to let time do its thing,

792
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: you know, and they come to you.

793
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, how do you get earth Winding Fire

794
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: on your album?

795
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 4: I will never get over it. But my manager is

796
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: a beast. She knew that The inspiration for Jaguar One

797
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 4: was Earths Winding Fire and listening to their music and

798
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: you know, hearing the horn arrangements and their strings and

799
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: how it made people feel to listen to their music.

800
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: I was listening to a lot of that when making

801
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: Jaguar One, So it was an idea, like we wanted

802
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: to have them on the project, and she made it

803
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: happen and they were down, like they were very receptive

804
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: to the music. I got a call from Verding White

805
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: the other day. I'm like, it's my life. He just

806
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: he said he saw me on fallin he you know,

807
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: he knows the tours going on, and it's just really crazy,

808
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 4: Like my life is just changing so fast, and I'm

809
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: trying to be present and like take it all in

810
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 4: and like because a lot of the things that are

811
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: happening are things that I had written down before, like

812
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: wish for before, and I'm also writing more things and

813
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: wishing for more things right now. But I don't want

814
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 4: to get to ahead of myself and just try to

815
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 4: enjoy the things that are happening now, you know what

816
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: I mean.

817
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: Well, I love about that. So in Hollywood, is that

818
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: the hook you say, you say you're dreaming bigger than

819
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: I ever should. Yeah, what were some of those dreams

820
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: like early on?

821
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 4: Well, well, I feel like when I say that lyric,

822
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 4: it's more so I'm kind of like, you know, when

823
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 4: you come from a town like this, You're like, yeah,

824
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 4: I want the lights and I want you know, I

825
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 4: want to leave my mark on history, and I want

826
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 4: the fancy car that I see on the TV. And

827
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: I want the big house by the Malibu beach, you know,

828
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 4: these like physical tangible things and then having my daughter,

829
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: and it's also writing just about more important things in life.

830
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: You just realize that like you don't need any of that.

831
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 4: It's really more so about genuinely being happy with where

832
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 4: you're what you're doing, like pursuing things that make you happy,

833
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: saying no to the things that you don't, saying no

834
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: to the people that don't make you happy, and surrounding

835
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: yourself with people who you truly love, creating a legacy

836
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: through your bloodline or through who you can help. And

837
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: so the record just kind of challenges all of the

838
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: things that I say, you know, maybe people move to

839
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 4: La to get and just takes you back to the

840
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: root of it all, which is happiness, family, quality, time

841
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: and those things. So that's why I put my daughter

842
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: on the record with them.

843
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're doing an amazing job with that,

844
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: and I sold one of your Instagram dedications. You also

845
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: made a point of saying how it's important for your

846
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: daughter to have a front row seat to see all

847
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: the hard work. Yeah, Like, why do you think that?

848
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: Why do you want her to be seeing everything going on?

849
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: You know what, I saw my mom do it too.

850
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: My mom was a single mom. She got pregnant at nineteen.

851
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people have a similar story,

852
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 4: but I saw her working three jobs and I saw her,

853
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: you know, want to go back to school and finish

854
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 4: school and try to provide the best life for me,

855
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 4: make changes in my life and sacrifices in hers. One

856
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: of the things she made sure made happen was the

857
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 4: fact that I went to Sheldon High School, which is

858
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: a performing our school. We had to change our address

859
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: to do so because we didn't live in the area

860
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 4: where they accepted my you know, accepting me as a student.

861
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: So like she had some finessing going on just to

862
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 4: make sure that I was raised a certain way. And

863
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: I saw and did what I needed to do, and

864
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: I think that I'm trying to make those same efforts

865
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 4: with my daughter, and I think just the same way

866
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: that I do, she's gonna she's gonna take those characteristics

867
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 4: and apply them herself. She's watching everything. She's watching my

868
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 4: show and she probably shouldn't anymore. She's like doing the dances.

869
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, no, no, no, singing the lyrics. She knows stop.

870
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 4: She knows smoke like I'm like, okay. One time we

871
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: were at a restaurant and we were listening to I

872
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 4: believe I was listening to the mix of smoke in

873
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 4: the car. And so she's in the car and she's

874
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: we get into the line, the food line. We were

875
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: at Porthos, shout out to Porthos and we were in

876
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 4: the line and she's in her stroller. She's like, Mama,

877
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: I want to go go back to the car. I

878
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: want to go smoke. I'm like, what, I want to

879
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 4: go smoke? What she meant is what she wants to

880
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 4: go back to listen to smoke. I'm like, you were

881
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: going to get me arrested. The people are going to

882
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: figure out here smoking with me. But it's just like now,

883
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 4: it's just at that age where she's two and a half.

884
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 4: She's listening and watching everything. So as much bad things

885
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 4: that are out there that she could see, I want

886
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 4: to be the good things that she could see and

887
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: the good examples that she could apply to her young life.

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00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: You said, understand the sacrifices.

889
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that you tweeted, you said, she said, I

890
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: want to be Mama on stage.

891
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 4: Yes, she said it literally. She said it again this morning.

892
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: I said, what do you want to do today? She said,

893
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Speaker 4: I want to sing like Mama, Like, oh.

894
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: My god, my heart.

895
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: She really really knows how to just grab it and

896
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 4: hold it. But yeah, yeah, she's starting to be vocal

897
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 4: about what she wants to do. She's in the mirror

898
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 4: doing her own baby shock dances and everything. So hey, kids,

899
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 4: bop us up.

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Speaker 3: Victoria. She is on Hollywood. I don't know if you

901
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: have the money for the feature for the next time.

902
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: I know, I know it's expensive, very expensive feature, but

903
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: she does. I gave her her pub on Hollywood.

904
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Speaker 2: So so well, Hollywood, why did you get so deep

905
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: at there? What do you live for? What do you

906
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 2: what do you be for? Damn? Victoria questions?

907
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

908
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: It's okay, music can be therapy too.

909
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 4: It was there. Music has been definitely very therapeutic for me,

910
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 4: just to express whatever I'm holding and just write it

911
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 4: and like release it.

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00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: You know, so is going to be on any more songs?

913
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: Shoot, I think she's ready for her own album intro. Yeah, yeah,

914
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: but I would love to do more with her. I

915
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 4: actually want to do like have you guys ever heard

916
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: of Gracie's Yeah, like something like that with her, like

917
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 4: her have her own world so I can make child

918
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 4: appropriate music because she can't keep singing party girls like

919
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: oh no birthday party girls. You know, party girls a

920
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 4: party training song. Let's change the lyrics. Yeah yeah yeah, and.

921
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Speaker 3: You also take your talents across the pond in a

922
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: few weeks, right, Yes, it's they your first time headlining

923
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: a show over in Europe?

924
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: Yes, wow, yeah, first time before the last time I

925
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: was there it was opening I was on a tour

926
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Speaker 4: opening for Ariana Grande there Dangerous Woman tours. So I

927
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 4: haven't actually performed there since. I've been back once once,

928
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 4: So like, it's definitely time to go to London and

929
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: like see the town and all my mom is being

930
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 4: received really well there now too.

931
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, so much so you had to put a

932
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: second date to Yes, there's.

933
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Speaker 4: Two shows in and then I'm going to Brazil. Oh man, Yeah,

934
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: South America. Here we come.

935
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Speaker 3: Get the passports.

936
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 4: Come on, round it up. You already came to Sacramento,

937
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 4: so you might as well fly.

938
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Go where victorious?

939
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go.

940
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: But speaking of Ariana, I saw some article someow you

941
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 2: had two of her biggest hits right, two number ones,

942
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: and then that was kind of the main point of

943
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: where it's like I could be looked at as this

944
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: person who's songwriter, extraordinary. Everybody comes to me at that

945
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: moment you pivoted and really went for it and made

946
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Speaker 2: this happen.

947
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you know, it's kind of a scary thing

948
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: because at the time you get you're getting all these

949
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 4: calls and you're not sure if it's the right move.

950
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 4: But the instinct was there, and I had a crazy

951
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: discussion with my team about it, and you know, everyone

952
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: was on board and pushing me to like, this is,

953
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: you know, one of the biggest decisions of your life,

954
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: you know, because it could change everything how you navigate

955
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: right now could really just be the foundation for everything

956
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 4: that you've wanted. So we got in the studio and

957
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: you know I think that now looking back right move.

958
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations, absolutely, thank you so appreciate you. Thank you

959
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: for taking the time.

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00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: Thank you.

961
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: You guys want you to tear it down more at

962
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: the hometown. Shall go?

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00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: Are you guys coming? I'm out of here. I'm only

964
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: here for this, okay, you know what.

965
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: I might have to stay a little bit longer.

966
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: Come on, it's only like twenty four hours.

967
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: I think you're right that that's not that Also, isn't

969
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: that bad? When you saw Beyonce you tweeted that she's

970
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: the greatest performer live. No debate about it, yo.

971
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: Don't ask no questions like it's true?

972
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

973
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 4: I saw her in two cities that are in l

974
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Speaker 4: A and Houston.

975
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Speaker 2: I saw in London. I saw what so did you

976
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: in London?

977
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Speaker 4: What do you think?

978
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: It's her best tour though, I think it's crazy. She's

979
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: killing it.

980
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 3: I saw it on Instagram, knows.

981
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 4: Well, you know what. You could see it in theaters. Hey, yay,

982
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 4: So she got your back. You see how byance is

983
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 4: so great? She just she thought of you. So I'm

984
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: excited to see because I know she has so much

985
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: other footage of how the process, and so I'm always

986
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 4: inspired by her as not only an artist but a mom,

987
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: a mother of three, like navigating a whole world tour,

988
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: sixty something shows and more because she's not just touring,

989
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 4: she's doing other things in between. Just got some perfume out,

990
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 4: you know. And so I watching Life as but a Dream,

991
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 4: or like documentaries where she's talking about the personal size

992
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 4: and like balancing at all as a mom, or even

993
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: the Coachella doc. You know, it's all been super inspiring

994
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: and just real like it's something that you don't even

995
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: realize you feel until you actually experience it. So you

996
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: become a mom, you can't really prepare for it, you know.

997
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 4: So it's been really cool to just get an inside

998
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 4: view on one of the biggest stars in the world,

999
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: but also the human element of you know, still holding

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00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 4: together a family with the.

1001
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: Soul illness even you know, also in your music, how

1002
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: does it feel with all my mom and how it's

1003
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: become sort of this empowerment, right, yeah, how well receive

1004
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: other women are taking in famous women? Right? You know,

1005
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: women we don't know that cutting these videos and just

1006
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: a sort of organic connection to the song.

1007
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: I couldn't dream of anything more. It's like what I

1008
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: got from other artists is what I wanted to give

1009
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Speaker 4: to people. And I feel like just seeing these videos,

1010
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm, you know, at that point where

1011
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 4: people are, you know, I want, I want to inspire people.

1012
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: I want to live in this, live this life, to

1013
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: inspire others, to give all that I can give to

1014
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 4: other people and just make their lives happier, better And

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00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: within the three minutes they're listening to my music or

1016
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 4: the hour they come to my show, or you know,

1017
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: just whatever I could do to be of service to

1018
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 4: like the world. So I think with on my mama,

1019
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: seeing the reaction is like a really great start.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you, Victoria Monet.

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Speaker 3: Podcast rap Radar is The Interval Presents original production from

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Speaker 3: hyper House, produced by Laura Wasser, Hosts and producers Elliott

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Speaker 3: Wilson and Brian b. Dot Miller From Interval Presents executive

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Speaker 3: producers Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg, Executive producer Paul Rosenberg.

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Speaker 3: Editing is sound design by Dylan Alexander Freeman, recording engineer

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Ogletree. Special thanks to Charlotte Jenkins, Tammy Kim and

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Speaker 3: Jasmine Sanchez, Operations Lead Sarah Yu, business development Lead Cheffie

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