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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff Mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Caroline and I'm Kristen and for this

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Speaker 1: this another installment of our Summer short series. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about freckles. And before you get up angrily and say

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Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with summer, think about it. It

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Speaker 1: It obviously does. When you are exposed to sunshine, my friends,

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Speaker 1: you get freckles. And I had asked Kristen, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about this topic, and I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm very pale, but I'm not very frankly. But in

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Speaker 1: the summer, I do get a lot of freckles on

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Speaker 1: my hands. What's up with that? I am pale as well,

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Speaker 1: and not all that frankly, although on my left arm

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Speaker 1: I do have two freckles right about an inch and

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Speaker 1: a half apart. And when I was a kid, this

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Speaker 1: is totally off topic. When I was a kid, I

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Speaker 1: would look at these freckles and tell myself, if anyone

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Speaker 1: ever I think I told my mom this, if anyone

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Speaker 1: ever claimed to be me, But she wasn't sure, look

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Speaker 1: for the two freckles. Thank god you told your mother that.

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Speaker 1: I know. She was like, okay, okay, child, good, good job, Kristen. Uh. So,

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Speaker 1: freckles are also in the news though, and not just

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Speaker 1: because of UV rays in the summertime. Right, Okay, So,

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Speaker 1: back when we did our Women in Aviation podcast, we

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Speaker 1: talked about Amelia Earhart and how there was this expedition

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Speaker 1: going out to try to find remains or clues or

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Speaker 1: did find a combination of very interesting items that led

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Speaker 1: them to believe that she missed ear Heart had been

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Speaker 1: of the things that they found was Dr. C. H.

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Speaker 1: Berry's freckle ointment, which was market to women in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen thirties as a way to fade freckles. And it

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Speaker 1: contains twelve percent ammoniated mercury and point seven percent zinc oxide.

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Speaker 1: In other words, not really that's safe for you, but hey,

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Speaker 1: this is Dr C. H. Baby and the nineteen thirties.

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Speaker 1: And one of the reasons they think that this freckle

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Speaker 1: Sernilia says that quote. It's well documented Amelia had freckles

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Speaker 1: and disliked having them. Yeah, sure, lock homes over there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you google Amelia Earhart and freckles, and it's

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Speaker 1: just page after page of the headline. Does freckle cream

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Speaker 1: point to disappeared so and so person? To be very specific, basically,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, oh my god, freckle

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Speaker 1: cream Amelia are hard to make sense. Freckle cream. She

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Speaker 1: was there, she must have been flying with it. She

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Speaker 1: hated her freckles, that's to They were also like, I

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Speaker 1: doubt Pacific Islanders were all about removing their freckles. Now

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Speaker 1: it remains to be seen, of course, whether or not

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Speaker 1: this really was Amelia Earharts freckle cream. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why people freak out about freckles so much.

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Speaker 1: I think that they're adorable, but then again, it might

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Speaker 1: be because you and I don't have a lot of them,

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Speaker 1: so you know, grass is always greener kind of thing. Um,

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Speaker 1: But the medical term for freckles are flds. I mean, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I just read it. I never know how to pronounce things. Now,

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Speaker 1: And then you have sunburn freckles, which are also called kristen.

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Speaker 1: And one of those creams that lightened skin contains hydro quinine,

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Speaker 1: is from Jennifer about the mommy War. She says, as

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Speaker 1: a working mother currently serving on active duty in the Army.

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Speaker 1: The mommy war is a moot point. I signed a

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