WEBVTT - Vol. 10: Matt Barnes & Stephen Jackson - Part 2 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.080 Charges. That's created by Portalais and Control Media. It's produced 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:10.760 by dB Podcasts in association with I Heart Radio. This 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.960 time a former Son's player who you might remember as 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:16.360 t Rex. More video in just a moment, but this 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:18.840 is Rex Chapman's mug shot and we are learning a 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.640 lot more about the charge of the Charge. Matt. I've 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.159 seen the tapes. What happened to you in Manhattan? Be 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.080 hard to believe that race doesn't play into that. Man, 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.360 same cop pulls me over, runs my ship again. I'm 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:31.840 just like you pull me over twice in the last 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:33.479 two weeks, Like what are you running? A lot of 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.840 the players that consume cannabis and I have to worry 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:37.920 about getting drugs And I know, man, Matt had a 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.199 lot to do with that. Bro. You know how I 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.240 feel about my kids and you're in my house playing 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.239 dad and you don't tell me. Where does the Kwamie 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:49.239 Brown situation fall into that category for you? You've got 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:55.920 some real ship today, Rex, Welcome back to Charges. I'm 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.480 your host, Rex Chapman. This is episode ten, and I 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.360 want to thank you from the bottom room by Heart 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.680 for listening. We're halfway through season one and are so 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.320 excited for what is in store for you all. We'd 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.000 like to ask that you take a moment to rate, review, 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.080 and share your favorite episodes with all those in your 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.200 world that you think would enjoy our show. Encouraging them 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.640 to subscribe goes a long way. Today we continue our 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.600 two part conversation with Matt Barnes and Steven Jackson. In 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.399 part one, we went hard to the rack at Steven's 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.520 tribulations on and off the court, and we'll get back 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.920 to his story shortly. In part two, we will be 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.880 putting the spotlight to start on Mr Barnes. As you 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.160 can tell from part one, Matt is highly engaging and intelligent. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.280 Even Stevie refers to him as the brains of their unit. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.920 Matt is very savvy and medium minded now, but he 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.400 had to learn the hard way just how when he 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.720 was approached by the tempting world of reality television for 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.000 he and his family, his instincts said no. But when 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.160 the big fellow Shaquille O'Neil puts the battery in your back, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.640 it's a yes. In April of season one of the 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:08.240 broadcasting behemoth, Basketball Wives was born to the airwaves. The 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.320 drama that ensued on camera and in the headlines is 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:23.560 where we begin. This is charged, Matt. You went all 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.480 the way out there and put you in your family 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.440 in the limelight with reality TV, and I know you 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.160 said in other interviews that it portrays people in a 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:35.080 certain way and maybe even leans into stereotypes. Who, in 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.480 your opinion, has the responsibility to stop that? Is that you? 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.799 Is that the producers is at the network? I think 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:48.320 it's us um because people love drama, drama sales. You know. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.119 My whole situation was it actually started in Phoenix. I'll 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:52.640 take you down a brief road. So Shack and I 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.680 were teammates at the time, and uh man, I'm fresh 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.480 off having newborn twins in and on a new team 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.919 in Phoenix, probably been with my girl a little bit 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.200 over a year, and she comes to me like, Hey, 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.800 Shanny O'Neill wants to do a reality show about women 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.280 kind of behind the scenes running their household, being moms. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.720 You know, our charitable contributions. This isn't that. And I'm 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.000 just like TV New Kids, New Team. I just don't 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.400 think so, you know. So we're backing forth for maybe 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.360 a few weeks, and I'm standing firm on no until 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.320 Shaq hits me one day and just like, hey man, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.359 you need to let you know, let's let's think about 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:29.919 this is gonna be a good show to be good 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:31.200 for him and to get him out of our hair, 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.720 and it'll be this, this and that. Mike, you sure 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.200 a big fellow. He's like, come on, man, you know 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:36.800 I got my hands on this. We're gonna be straight. 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.400 So from that, Basketball Wives was born, and that was 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.600 some motherfucking bullshit. Uh, But at the same time, it 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.560 also it also showed me another side of kind of 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.200 in what I'm excelling in now is production and content 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.040 creation because I was behind the scenes kind of seeing 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.480 how you know. One thing about reality TV is is 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.320 people who watch it think that ship is real. They 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.520 don't know that everything is scripted in stage. What they'll 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.720 do is they'll create chaos and then they'll show your 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.000 real reaction within the chaos. But the chaos could be 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.280 made up. Um, so people really live and die by 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:08.800 the stuff and the end the ship is not real. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.800 So although it was a negative depiction, I feel like 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.360 a black people in basketball wise, and even all the 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.760 reality shows, whether it's black or white. I just think 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.800 people have to understand the negativity sales, But at the 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.880 end of the day, people are willing to do whatever 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.880 it takes to be famous. Right now, people care more 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:26.760 about fame than they do about respect, dignity, morals, anything 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.120 like fame, the price of fame. Fame is probably the 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.000 most addicting drug we have in this world, you know. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.479 So although there were some negative things that came from it, 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.760 I always try to find a positive lining in it. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.200 And like I said, it was being behind the scenes, Like, 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.440 look at this bullshit they're creating, Like, imagine if I 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.280 had the opportunity just be in this space and create 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.320 something positive, some you know, tell real stories. So that's 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.760 kind of what got me um thinking early on that 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.880 how I want to be able to tell stories at 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.200 some point, and that's what I'm doing now. So but 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.960 at the same time, another positive was, you know, although 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.359 I was a role player and a journeyman, doing reality 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.200 TV flipped me. Now I wouldn't say Hollywood because reality 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:04.919 TV is not Hollywood, but it kind of put me 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.520 in a different space as well. So now I have 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.640 a whole new group of eyeballs of people that may 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.520 have not have known me because of basketball being because 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.400 they're not fans or I wasn't a huge star, but 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.960 know me now because they saw my ex wife and 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.680 now on this reality thing. So again, there was some 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.600 positives from it as far as just kind of like 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.440 opening up and being in different spaces and and being 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.839 in that production space now and then kind of wanting 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.760 to create positivity out of the negativity that I saw. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.320 But unfortunately, you know, they say things coming ways, but 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.520 I don't think the reality TV wave is go anywhere 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:37.320 because we live in a time where people love drama negativity. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.640 You know, you look at social media. Unfortunately now it's 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.000 it's similar to the news. It's a bunch of negativity. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.760 It's a bunch of people talking bad who are insecure 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.479 about themselves, who want to protect their negativity on other people. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.120 So negativity will always win and sell. And I think 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.440 it's upon us to really kind of step back and 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.280 say like, hey, there has to be another way. But 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.680 then again, I can say that because I played in 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.360 the b A and was able to save some money 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.280 and made some smart moves now and I don't need 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.640 anything like that, So I'm never gonna tell someone like, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.120 don't take your chance, because there have been some people 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.200 who step in the reality space and flip that into 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.520 a real brand in a business, and you know, are 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.960 making money right now. So to each his own, I 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.080 just wish that there was a way to create more 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.520 positive messaging we're putting out there, because not only are 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.839 we looking stupid, but we're we have the next generation 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.960 thinking like, okay, this is you know. I remember one time, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:29.040 I think while still playing, I was talking to a 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.040 bunch of school kids. I was talking to a school 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:32.800 and you know, talking about what kids want to be, 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.320 and two little girls told me we want to be 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:38.120 reality TV stars. And I'm like, not actresses or you know, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.480 like not the next step. They what they said, reality 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.080 TV stars on this ship, like we're showing this next 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:47.120 generation like this is the route, this is the direction 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.880 to go. Which is sad because you always kind of 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.560 have to be aware of what you're putting out there. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.080 So you know, there was there was a few positives 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.039 I think more negative than anything, But like I said, 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.080 I'm never gonna take food out of someone's mouth and 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:58.719 tone what they should and shouldn't do. I just wish 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.520 there was a way for us to eate more positive 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.800 content to put out there because our kids are always 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:08.640 watching yeah. It seems Barnes had forgotten to appear in 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.600 court for a traffic violation, driving with a suspended license. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.200 The Manhattan Beach Police Department hadn't forgotten, though, and when 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.400 an officer spotted Barnes and pulled him over, he wasn't 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.720 happy or cooperative. In fact, the officer called from back 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.120 up when Barnes allegedly made a verbal threat. Barnes was 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.400 jailed and Sarshan paul Ford said, this matter us and 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:31.840 through yet. Yeah, but I'm with him, so I said 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.280 I need to know. Great, So what do you need 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.920 to step over here? So? What can we get when 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.000 you get at it? Right? Yeah? You don't know this, 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:47.880 MONI fum anyway, I do, okay, I unders camera? What's 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:58.080 just get him? Matt. I've seen the tapes. What happened 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.520 to you in Manhattan Beach? Hard to believe that race 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.720 doesn't play into that. Man, What do you remember about 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.600 that day and what do you wish went differently? It 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:10.239 was unfortunate, man, because everyone saw on YouTube what happened 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.000 that final day, but they don't know that was like 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.280 six weeks and this one cop fucking with me. This 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.080 one cop pulled me over four times in six weeks. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.240 I was playing with the Lakers at the time. We're 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.560 in the playoffs. I remember when I was injury too. 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.640 I just sprained my ankle. So I'm driving from the 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.040 facility and Elsa Gundo to my crib in Manhattan Beach 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.920 and in the first time, this cop pulls me over. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.680 So I'm you know again, I'm fresh out of practice, 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.480 so I'm still a little hot. So I'm driving home 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.679 all black escalade, windows down though, no shirt on, so 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.200 you know, obviously I'm fully tatted. So I see a 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.440 cop get behind me, then pull up next to me 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.600 and stare at me and then take off. So I'm like, okay, 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.840 let dude's trying to funk when but he's gone. And 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.200 then like another light or two, I see a cop 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.200 driving slow. I'm like, damn, is that that same cop? 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.840 And sure enough it was. So this cop went from 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.360 being in the same lane as me to getting back 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.160 to the outside lane slowing way down. So I got 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.160 ahead of him, and then he got behind me and 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.000 pulled me over. Like what the funk This cop just 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.360 did all that? And he ends up pulling me over 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.880 because I don't have a front license plate, so I 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.240 asked him, like you literally like this kind of bis 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.280 being going on for almost five minutes, Like you literally 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.319 followed me all this way, stared at me, got ahead 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.719 of me, stopped, got behind me and pulling me over 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.160 because of a front license plate, like you gotta follow 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:25.880 the rules, blah blah blah whatever. So he gives me 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.720 a fixed ticket or a warning. I don't know what 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.320 the funk you gave me. I go on my way. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.480 Maybe a few days later, same cop, after practice again 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.680 pulls me over. I was like, what are you doing? What? 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.600 I was like, what am I doing? This time? Same 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.520 fucking guy, your windows in the front or two tenant? 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.080 So I smiled at him like all right, bro, And 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.719 he starts to try to peel my my thing off 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.319 and I hit his hand aways like are you touching me? 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:51.560 I'm like, man, you don't have to just give me 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.640 my my fix it ticket. Don't fucking put your hands 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.320 on my windows and trying to peel my tin off, 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.160 Like you better watch your attitude. I'm like, all right, sir. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.200 So it gives me my ticket. I move on. So 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.120 then this is uh, the third time he pulls me over. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.560 We had just got back from Okay, see and again. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.080 Like I said, I'm playing with the sprained ankle. So 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:10.680 I'm heavily ice both knees, iced, ankle, ice, shoulder iced. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.880 This guys, same cop pulls me over. Um runs my 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:17.360 ship again. I'm just like, you know, what are you 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.400 running now? Like you just pull you pull me over 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.160 twice in the last you know, two weeks, Like what 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.600 are you running? Your registration is expired and I'm like, no, 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.720 it's not. He's like, well, and my records it is. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.319 And I'm just like what, Like, it's not like you 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.360 made a mistake, sir. He's like, get out of the car. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.079 I'm like I'm not getting out the car. He's like, 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.000 you better get out of the car now. So he 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.040 opens my door. I get out of the car. I 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.280 go sit down on the thing. He's like, here, sit here, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.160 I gotta go run some more stuff. So I'm sitting 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.320 here just mad as a motherfucker on my phone's dead 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.120 mad as a motherfucker. Next thing he knows, he's like, 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.319 well you He's like, I need to impound your car 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.439 because your registration is expired. I'm like, yeo, my fucking 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.440 registration isn't expired. You're full of ship. So I get pissed. 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.120 I'm just like, man, fuck you, fuck this and he's 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:00.719 just he starting no, I mean, goes sit back in 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:01.960 this car. He's like, I don't know why you're still 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.080 sitting here. You they need to call someone or walk. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.560 I'm like, this, motherfucker, so again, I told you my 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.520 phone was dead. So I walk maybe a mile and 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.480 a half and flip flops, ice bags on my knee, 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.560 I s on my ankle, ice on my shoulder the 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.800 day of a fucking playoff game back to my house. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.240 So I'm mad as a motherfucker, like I wanted to 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.200 whoop this dude's ass so bad. So fast forward to 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.400 the end of the season. My ex wife and I 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.160 are in Manhattan Beach, and if you're familiar with Manhattan Beach, 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:29.559 you can park down by the beach and then you 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.360 walk up the hill to the restaurant. So we'd parked 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.640 down there. I went up in eight walking back, and 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.160 you know, obviously when you play for the Lakers you're 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.040 in Manhattan Beach, you know they treat everyone rest in 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.079 peace like there Kobe like. So I had swarms of 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.240 people pictures walking with me, talking with me, talking Lakers 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.199 ship so next thing, I know, we kind of get 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:48.480 down to the bottom of the hill and you know, 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.480 there's like and so there's a parking lot, and then 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.360 there's the alley and then there's the first set of 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.720 bars and restaurants. So there's a cop in the alley 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.880 park right next to the bar to a bar and 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.320 he says, Barnes, come here, and I remember heard that 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.440 fucking voice. I'm like, is this that cop? And I 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.080 had the same escalator, so he must have saw my 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.720 escalating the parking lot. It's like this, that same fucking cop. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.000 He calls me over. I look over. I'm like, Yo, 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.080 what the fund is this dude doing? And my my 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.760 ex the twins mom, she's a spark plug too. She's like, oh, 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.080 what's this motherfucker wants? So she's already on one too. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.319 So he's like come here and I So we kind 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.880 of start walking over there and he tells me to 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.360 this motherfucker tells me to come over here and sit 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.440 down in the alley where people throw up p and 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.880 I was like, I'm not doing you. Fuck you. So 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:33.839 but I don't remember what the fourth time was for. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.240 It was it was forcing more bullshit. So anyway, like, 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.079 so when you start seeing people are obviously filming this now, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.280 So this dude's telling me to put my hands behind 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.040 my back and come here, and I told him, you 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:44.560 touch me, I'm gonna beat the ship out of you. 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.280 So as soon as I said that, he like they 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.000 had to be waiting on me. So he says something 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.559 into his little shoulder piece, and I tell you, forty 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:56.600 five seconds later, five cops come howling, the lights on noise. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.160 So I'm I'm there talking to this cop like I 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.240 was letting him have it, saying whatever to him because 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:03.840 I was just frushed, Like I really felt like he 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.400 was targeting me. So long story start, I end up 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.120 getting arrested, I get right out, but so then I'm 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.880 just like fucking I'm like, this dude was racially profiling 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.960 bothered me because, come to find out, my registration wasn't suspended, 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.920 everything was up to date. I didn't have no warrants, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.640 no nothing. He just dude was just fucking with me. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:20.719 So I get a lawyer. We find out he's a 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.920 new cop basically trying to make his name on the four. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.079 So I'm in the process of suing the Manhattan Beach 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:26.840 Police because and then other people start telling you though, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.080 Manhattan Beach is anonymous for racially profile and all this 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.120 kind of stuff. And then I remember our security at 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.520 the Robert Laura, who was Kobe's head security, but kind 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.640 of our our Laker team securities. Like, Matt, you got 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.960 a point, you probably got a case. But the last 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.199 thing you want to do is sue a police department 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.880 because then you're gonna become a target. So I'm like, uh, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.120 that makes a lot of sense. A long story short, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.360 this dude pulled me over, harassed me like four times 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.439 within a six week span, just to kind of make 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.640 his name. But again, no one really gets to know 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.000 the backstory, so people think, oh, he must be drunken man, 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.600 hadn't beach getting arrested, And that's that's the typical Matt 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.960 barn ship, not knowing that I hadn't even had no drinks. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.839 I was walking back from dinner with my wife and 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.760 I was just being harassed by this punk ass cop. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:15.079 So it was sucked up amazing. Lebral was over Gloria 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.079 go Van Star Basketball Wives l A. The v H 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.480 one reality show for a Strange husband is Matt Barnes 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:25.160 of the Memphis Grizzly. Barnes reportedly went ballistic when he 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.040 found that New York Knicks head coach Derek Fisher was 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.320 hanging out with his sexy ex wife at her California home. 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:36.200 He jumped behind the wheel and drove. What followed was 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:40.080 a violent confrontation the NBA and Adam Silver, suspending this 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.560 man for two games. He raised his hands. I respect 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.040 that he didn't go get a gun. He raised his 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:51.560 hands and defended his house. So, Matt, uh, while we're 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.120 going down the shitty road, tell me about the day 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.120 your face time by one of your twin sons, about 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.360 a party going on into former home with one of 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.520 our fraternity brothers. Former uh, one of your ex teammates 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.120 being there with your ex wife. What was going on 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.920 in your life and through your fucking mind at that time? 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.600 So no, I've never really given the full story of 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.640 how that day happened. Um. So, I'm playing with the 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.600 Memphis Grizzlies at the time, and we have training camp 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.160 in Santa Barbara. So I went out to Memphis early 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:23.520 and worked out with the team. So I hadn't been 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.040 in l A for almost a month. So when we 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.200 go back to Santa Barbara. I'm like, Ship, I'm gonna 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.000 see if And at this time, my X and I 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:31.880 were on good terms. We were just X. You know, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:33.920 we weren't together no more. So I'm like, shout, I'm 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.480 gonna see if, you know, if she can bring the 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.120 twins down and stay the night. I'll get them a 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.560 room so I could just hang out with them before 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.160 I have to go back to Memphis. So the twins 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.160 are maybe when it's just two thousand and fifteen, so 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.480 the twins a like six or seven. So she ends 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.160 up bringing them down. I get them a room. We're 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.800 hanging out the whole day, and then training camps in Saturday, 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.560 and Coach Yeager said, you know we have Sunday off. 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.800 I'm like, all right, Ship, well, coach, can I go 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.160 back Saturday, spend the rest of Saturday in l A 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.480 because we're only in Santa Barbis two hours away, and 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.960 then I'll fly back to Memphis Monday or excuse me, 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.600 Sunday evening, and I'll be back in time for practice Monday. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.840 I had no problem, so I end up leaving and 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:09.800 I kind of think this is where Kanye said that 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:11.960 I drove ninety miles because I was probably I was 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.960 ninety miles away and in Santa Barbara, but I just 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.520 drove back to l A at the time. So we're 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.240 driving back from Santa Barbara to l A. And like 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:21.680 I said, G and I are cool. So it's no 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.200 I'm driving her car back because obviously I didn't have 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:25.320 a car out there. The twins are in the back. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.080 Everyone's kind of doing their own thing. We stop and 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.120 get some food, so me and the twins go and 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.720 get something, and then we're waiting in the car for 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.280 their mom to come back out. And it's her car, 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.080 so she's on the phone when she walks out of 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.880 the restaurant, and all of a sudden, the bluetooth in 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.400 the car goes from the playing the Boys cartoon to 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.880 her and Derek's conversation, and I hear some ship like 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:50.920 I miss you, baby can wave teeth to come back 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.840 out here. And I'm like and I'm like, yo, I 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.520 know that motherfucking voice, Like whose voices that I know 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.720 that fucking voice? And so they keep talking. I said, 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.440 she doesn't know that they're conversation that's taken over the 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.679 stereo inside the car. So I'm sitting there and then 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.879 once I hear I like, say something else and I 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.120 heard him like, Yo, that's fucking Derek. So she gets 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.239 in the car and I'm looking at her and her 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.399 eyeballs just about to jump out of her head. I'm like, 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:16.480 so she gets in the cars like are you talking 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.040 to Derek? And she froze. I'm like, Derek, if this 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.359 is you, I'm gonna beat the funk out of you 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:22.840 next time I see you. And then it goes click 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:24.920 and then the boys moving and then the Boys cartoon 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.800 comes back on. So for like the next hour, we 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.879 still have like another hour in the drive. She stone 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:34.159 cold doesn't say a word the whole entire drive, and 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.040 I'm mad, but at the same time, I'm not gonna 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:37.639 argue in front of the kids, so I kind of 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.960 just holding in, like all right, we'll talk about this 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:41.960 another time. So we end up getting back. She drops 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.320 me off of my crib, I say bye to the boys, 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.600 and I'm just like, we'll talk later. It's like okay. 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:48.960 So she ends up going home. The boys go home 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.679 later that night. I probably get dropped off like around six, 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.040 like later that night, like ten o'clock, one of the 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.080 twins calls me. I'm thinking, like first all, it's ten o'clock. 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:58.639 You're six years old? Seven years old? Why are you 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:03.240 still awake? Calls me like, Dad, your friend Derek is here. 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.760 Just the first thing he says, car and I'm just like, Dad, 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.280