WEBVTT - NFL Week 16 Reaction: Chiefs LEAVING KC? Caleb & Bears THRILLER + Ravens on the ROPES | Nick Wright 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.920 Welcome in What Driving the Great Episode four oh seven. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.280 This episode has always is brought to you by our 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:13.560 friends at Boost Mobile. Great to see everyone today, Merry Christmas, 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:17.560 Happy Hanukah, Happy holidays to everybody again. We are live 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.320 right now Tuesday, December twenty third, and then we are 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.919 bringing you later this week our gambling show, so it 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.320 will be a two show week this week and next 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:32.000 is Christmas Day and New Year's Day, both fall on 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:37.040 our regular Thursday recordings. Demons, how are you good doing it? Yeah? 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:38.600 Good to see you. Good to see you. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.960 So I have a very funny story that I will 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:47.240 tell later in today's show that I have just shared 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.720 with some of our great producers at Volume and Blue 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:58.200 Duck about a real life scenario where I, forty something 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:08.720 year old, long time professional grandfather, national television and podcast host, 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:14.640 had to borrow money this weekend to gamble with from demons. 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:22.959 That happened, and so and it was as just the 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.200 way it should have gone. It was so close to 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:31.640 being so great, and yet instead it was really was 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.880 really really was right. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:35.440 You know what? 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.600 How many stories have started like that? I was, I 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.679 was right there, But such is life. So that story 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.959 coming later in today's show. Right now, we will get 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.200 to straight to voicemail, brought to you by our friends 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:52.480 at boost Mobile. Draymond Green ejected himself after an argument 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:58.560 with Steve Kerr. The the juice is still worth the 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.760 squeeze with Draymond, but man, oh man, there's a lot 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:07.440 less juice and the squeezings getting a lot tougher, and 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.919 that you can kind of see how that could end. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:16.720 Anthony Joshua knocks out Jake Paul and I'll be totally 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.919 honest here. That was we talked about that more? Did 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:20.880 we talk about that at all? 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:22.520 We did on Thursday? We did? 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:27.600 Okay, yeah, about the gambling opportunities from that, and that 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:32.640 one came through. Now the knockout rounds one through three 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.119 did not at minus one thirty, but the knockout overall 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.480 at minus three seventy did. And two thoughts on that quickly. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:47.800 One is I I was nervous watching that because I 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:54.040 bet Joshua for knockout or TKO like, but I would 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.840 not so I would not have won the bet if 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.560 it went to the cards, which I did not think 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.560 it was going to. First few rounds obviously Jake's running around. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.640 I didn't love that, but I felt like but I 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.880 also would not have won the bet if Jake got 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:13.880 deq and I was worried with him, like consistently like 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:18.760 wrestling and falling, that they might deque him. But Joshua 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.680 called him with a clean right broke his jaw in 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.359 multiple places. And now I have to listen to people 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.440 telling me, you know how tough Jake Paul is. Listen. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.919 I mean, I don't doubt that he's tough. Doesn't change 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.440 the fact that he is a clown and the tongue 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.600 wagging and the whole he put himself in that position 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.800 to get his jaw broken, got his jaw broken, and 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.680 people were like, Wow, you can't question that guy. I 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.840 question that guy plenty. I'm glad for Anthony Joshua and 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:52.360 then DK metcalf so he's been suspended for two games. 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.880 That's gonna cost him more than half a million dollars 0:03:55.880 --> 0:04:01.640 in salary. It might cost the Steelers. Now, the Steelers 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.400 if they win against the Bronco I'm sorry again with 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:09.240 the Broncos against the Browns. They the Steelers have three 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.720 ways to make the playoffs. Way number one, they beat 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.440 the Browns, they're in way number two. The Ravens lose 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.080 to the Packers, then the Steelers are in way. Number 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:24.520 three is Steelers beat the Ravens in Week eighteen. But 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.839 DK Metcalf obviously won't be playing in those games, so 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.520 that hurts them a bit. I still think they'll be 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.240 able to beat the Browns. I don't think it'll be 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.560 a problem. So I just want to spend a moment 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:42.720 here talking about what DK Metcalf did so and reminder 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.520 everybody like great subscriber review would be a great Christmas 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:49.000 present to us if we as we inch closer to 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.640 a quarter of a million subscribers, we're right short of 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.880 two hundred and thirty thousand. We're not going to get 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.400 to a quarter of a million by New Year's as 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.279 was our goal. If we could maybe approach it by 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.400 the Super Bowl would be great. We'd have to really 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.960 pick up the numbers on YouTube, but they much love 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.000 to everyone who subscribes already. If you're just watching or 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.160 listening on iTunes or Spotify and not subscribed on an 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:18.760 audio platform and or on YouTube, would be greatly appreciated. So, 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:24.280 you know, demanse my general feeling on a few of 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:29.159 these topics. What is this? There is almost no one 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:34.480 more embarrassing to be around or be associated with than 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:39.760 the full grown, post college age adult that goes to 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:47.200 games to nastily taunt pro athletes. I don't like that 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.800 guy in any way, shape or form. I think that 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:56.359 is embarrassing behavior. I think it is shocking. Listen. I 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.360 think booing is fine. I think making noise, I think 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:04.320 the ACA visional well timed, wise crack. If it's actually 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.400 funny and witty, I think there is a room for 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:12.000 that in sports. But the thirty something year old, and 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:13.760 I'm not saying that that's what this guy was, but 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.200 just in generically, the thirty something year old or old 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.400 or drunk idiot that is just being obnoxious and making 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.440 it uncomfortable for those around him. I don't like that person. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:32.800 I also have a controversial belief, which is society as 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:41.760 a whole is better if people have a somewhat healthy 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:48.480 fear eh, Mike get punched in the face. I think that, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:54.520 like there is the furthest logical conclusion of this is 0:06:54.560 --> 0:07:01.040 I find no one more abhorrent or a certain a 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.680 porrent might be the wrong word obnoxious, then the streamer 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:10.920 idiot kids that walk around malls and stuff, Yeah, pulling pranks, 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:16.280 messing with people with their own security because they know 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.280 I can't get punched in the face. And I do 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:26.120 think that there is a healthy self policing that can 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:32.160 be done of if folks know, hey, yeah, maybe I'll 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.239 be able to press charges. Maybe I you know, maybe 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.480 it's gonna ruin the other person's next few months. But 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.840 if I act in a certain manner, I might get 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.600 punched in the face, nut shot, not stabbed, not kicked 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.720 in the head while I'm on the ground, but a 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:52.520 quick little jab. If everybody knows that that's on the board, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:58.520 I think people will conduct themselves with more grace and courtesy. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:02.200 And we've lost that a little bit, just a little bit. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:08.960 We've become a little too I would say, liberal with 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:14.000 words that are being allowed, while a little too conservative 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.320 with punches that are allowed. Just my personal that's not 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:19.960 and I don't mean that in a political sense. I 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.200 mean they the I think that old sticks and stones 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.320 will break my bones, but words will never harm me. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:29.640 Nursery rhyme did a little damage to a generation guy, 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:35.800 and so uh and so I do think they're say 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:42.480 it again, you know, yeah, run away correct. I do 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:47.800 think there was a At times certain things you deserve 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:52.000 to get punched like I. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:52.680 And have the facts come out about what was said. 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.079 Like DK was saying that he might have called him 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:56.760 something that you never call a black man. He was 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.640 saying that he just called DK by his original name 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.240 and is and like his original name. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:03.960 So I think that that I. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:09.880 Have seen with audio sound like the guy with the 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.040 blue wig is telling the truth. Yeah, that he didn't 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.320 say anything about his wife, his mother. He didn't say 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:15.800 a slur. 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.680 I think that's also a problem on dkse on DK 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.720 side because I understand like the fans shouldn't be there heckling, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.080 but you also shouldn't put that on the fan that 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:25.640 he said that just because you want to go. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:32.760 Yeah, that's a whole nother thing, which is the if 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.959 you tell me, and I don't you know, the if 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.320 you tell me no matter what race, creed, ethnicity, religion, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:43.160 you are, somebody weaponizes that against you in the form 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.080 of a slur. That definitely checks the box for me 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.720 of you're allowed to punch that person. You're not. Again, 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.280 like I said, you can't shoot them, can't stab them, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.880 can't if they're unconscious, kick him in the head. But 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.560 one quick punch to the face. They deserve it, and 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.160 I don't think a jury of your peers is going 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.080 to hold you accountable, just like you know what, I'm 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:07.120 gonna tell my story. So I now the flip side 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:15.120 to that coin is claiming that happened when it didn't 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:21.559 happen is an extra type of dirty and that that 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:27.600 is from the same branch of something you've heard me 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.679 say before, which is folks inability to take an l 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.480 these days, or folks inability to be like I screwed 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:40.000 up like that. So again I am I want to 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:45.640 be very careful here because I also have not heard 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.920 DK say that's what the guy said. I think it 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:53.080 was o Cho Sinko reported that DK told him, So 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:57.040 I don't again, I have I don't know. I definitely 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.480 don't know what was said definitively. I just know what 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.920 the audio shows and the video shows seems to back 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:05.400 up Blue Wig guy. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:09.360 Guy wouldn't have walked up, I feel, And I. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:14.280 Also feel like I also feel like there is again 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.720 you can sometimes tell what was said by the reaction 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:29.520 of folks around and the it and so I. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.640 Feel like, oh my gosh, like, yeah. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.240 It didn't seem like that. Again, I'm so I the 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.160 I would not. I don't have enough evidence yet to 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.000 make my own full mental ruling, but I know which 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.920 way I'm leaning. Okay, So now that I've laid all 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.120 this out there, I want to I want to make 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:53.440 this point, which is, of course DK Metcalf got suspended 0:11:53.480 --> 0:12:00.160 two games the NFL. There are very few black in 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:06.120 white lines that the NFL in particular has to maintain, 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.000 and one of them is you can't hit the customers. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.160 And I feel more strongly about that, honestly, in the 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:19.960 NFL than the NBA, even though the NBA they're on 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:29.880 top of the court. Because this is I think you 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.080 have to get in such a different mind frame to 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:38.920 play pro football. It's while you're on the field. I 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:42.000 think you have to like Cyche that that it needs 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:47.200 to be really really instilled that you can't take that 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:52.000 into the stands because I think it can. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.000 Go massive dude. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.400 It's a massive dude who's in like a in that moment, 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:01.360 like for your mentality, like you know, the We've seen 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.680 plenty of these guys who in their day to day 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:09.520 life are just like soft spoken, quiet, you know, peaceful people, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.360 but they have to get into it. So I just 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.080 think the size plus the mindset, all of that, it 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:18.400 becomes really like legitimately dangerous, not fake dangerous, legitimately dangerous. 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:23.520 And so I I as soon as it happened, I 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.959 texted Bruin Wilde. I was like, he's going to be 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.600 suspended a minimum of the game, maybe multiple now maybe, 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.880 And I know it voids as guarantees. I actually don't 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:35.960 think that matters that much because he's still a really 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.600 good player. You only don't want your guarantee, like the 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.800 Steelers want to keep paying him. So that's not going 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.880 to probably be a problem now next year, if he's 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:49.320 terrible or if he suffers a terrible injury, then those 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.280 voided guarantees could matter. But that's my general take on 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:59.839 the DK Metcalf situation. Now we have and even more 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.480 nuanced conversation to be had about my hometown Kansas City 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:09.360 Chiefs and where they're going geographically, and some of this 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.240 is going to be boring some of them, and you 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:12.640 know what I shouldn't say is going to be boring. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.640 Some of this is going to be just real geography, 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:20.080 and some of it's going to be real politics. And 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:26.000 some of this is going to be municipal spending. But 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:27.960 I'll make it all good, So go ahead. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.080 The season for hell becomes more hilatious. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.800 You guys lost Patrick, You guys lost your backup quarterback 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:34.400 in Garda. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:35.920 Minshew, and you lost the Titans. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.160 And it seems like Kansas City Chiefs are no longer 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.120 going to be in Kansas City. They might be moving 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.800 over to Kansas in twenty thirty. How do you feel 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:43.720 about this development? 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.360 All right, first, let me explain to people what it means. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:52.200 Kansas City Kansas City for all intents and purposes. When 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.280 people hear about Kansas City, they're talking about the Missouri side. 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.880 It is where I'm from, so weird kind of border 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:02.720 rivalry Missouri or Kansas. But I grew up one block 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.840 off State Line Road. That is exactly what it sounds 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:13.000 like the line between Missouri and Kansas. Now, confusingly and oddly, 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.200 the Missouri side of State Line Road is Kansas City. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:22.240 The Kansas side of State Line Road is not Kansas City, Kansas. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.600 That's a different part. Like there is a small part 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.760 of Kansasity, Kansas that touches State Line Road, but most 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.600 of it that touches State Line Road is like uh 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:36.600 Leewood or Oleitha or different municipalities. Okay, you guys don't 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:41.520 care about that. What you do what does matter is this, 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:46.600 The Chiefs are moving about twenty minutes west of where 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:51.960 they currently play. So this has no impact on them 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.280 being the Kansas City Chiefs because they were in Kansas 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.880 City proper. Yes, but they are still in the greater 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.880 Kansas City area, just like the same San Francisco forty 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.000 nine Ers play in Santa Clara. The New England Patriots, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.880 which people consider Boston's team, play in Foxborough. Like this 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.320 is the Detroit Pistons used to play at the Palace 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.440 at Auburn Hills. This happens. This is not a team 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:20.400 moving the way teams move, like Baltimore going to Cleveland, 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.200 that type of the Cleveland going to Baltimore. Either, That's 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.400 not what this is at all. Now it does for 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.920 me as a native Missouri and someone who's lived lived 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.800 his whole life my dad, it's Kansasy, Missouri firefighter. I 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.280 lived in on the Missouri side and whenever people say 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.160 to me, oh, you're from Kansas, I correct them say no, 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.680 I'm from Missouri. I hate that the Chiefs are leaving 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:53.360 I don't hate that Missouri was not held hostage by 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.640 pro sports owners. And this is where we get into 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.960 a little bit of tricky stuff. And then we will 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.280 talk about the football piece of it, because there is 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:09.960 a real football piece of it. But this is so teams, 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:14.440 because the state of Kansas, via star bonds and other stuff, 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.040 is going to pay more money for this chief stadium 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:23.919 than any local government, which means taxpayers have paid for 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.520 any stadium in the history of America one point eight 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:36.520 billion dollars. And I have always believed that the call 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:42.560 it fifteen biggest cities in the country, all of the 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:48.439 mayors slash governors of those states should have gotten together 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:52.919 a long time ago and said, folks, we need to 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:57.919 have an agreement amongst ourselves. We are not going to 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:04.119 pay for pro those sports team stadiums because they want 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:10.399 to be in our cities. So New York, LA, Dallas, Houston, Chicago, 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:15.440 San Francisco, that your major markets pro sports teams want 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.720 to be there. The idea that they are going to 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:23.680 leave is a bluff. If you are a major, major market, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:28.399 so you should never pay. Never pay if you're in 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.680 one of those markets. If you're in a smaller market. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:40.200 It does get trickier because we have seen teams leave 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.280 smaller markets. And one can argue, and I have argued 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:51.520 for a long time to use my hometown as a example, 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:56.360 that the thing that distinct that makes Kansas City different 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:01.800 from Des Moines, Iowa, or Omaha, Nebraska is that we 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.199 have the chiefs and the royals. That's it. We're a 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:12.000 two sport pro sport city and there is real economic 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.159 and civic pride benefit to that. And Kansas City is 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:21.679 not a huge market, so you can't just dare a 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:26.080 team to leave the way LA could or New York 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:31.160 could or Washington, d C. Could because they might leave. 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.679 The Kansas City has lost teams before, and so I 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:40.520 don't think it. While I understand the argument of there 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:44.200 are better things to be putting paying taxpayer dollars for 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:49.120 that is correct, I agree with that in general. I 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:56.400 also understand why if you're Memphis, losing the Grizzlies as 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:01.360 scary as shit, and it might be worth taxpayer dollars 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:07.600 to make sure they stay. And so I think the 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.560 math is not the same for mid market and small 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:14.280 market teams as it is for major market teams. That's 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.240 just my opinion. I think I have data to back 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.200 that up, but it's my gut feeling on having grown 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.080 up in one of those places and feeling like I'm 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:28.679 from somewhere, and because we have pro sports teams and 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:32.800 so this doesn't change that for Kansas Citians, they will 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.880 still be the Kansas City Chiefs. Nobody half the country 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:41.719 thought they played in Kansas already anyway, And I don't 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:47.560 think I understand the gut reaction people have, and I'm 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:53.520 with you politically on this, that it is shameful the 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:58.360 public subsidies we will give billion dollar sports teams when 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:03.160 I mean the city the state of Kansas has no 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:09.080 public transportation none. Don't get mad at me, Governor Laura Kelly, Like, 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.720 I'm sure there's a few bus routes, but like there 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:16.160 are there's there are things that money could be used 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.720 for that probably would help a greater group of people. 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.200 I get that, But I also do think that if 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:28.639 you're in a city the size of one that a 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:32.960 team might leave, losing that team can be devastating to 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.240 the community. So I do think you have to weigh 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:42.439 that the the problem for the cheap for that the 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:47.160 Chiefs were able to play into specifically is because they're 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:51.959 on a state line, they could play one state against 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:57.520 the other and get basically demanse the benefit that you 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:01.160 normally only get this type of I mean one point 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:04.400 eight billion, it's the biggest public subsidy ever. You normally 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:09.240 only get that something like that if you are threatening 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.800 your fan base with we are moving, like we are 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:16.399 going to the Seattle SuperSonics are going to become the 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:20.800 Oklahoma City Thunder. Because Kansas City that is on a 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:24.879 state line, they were able to get the benefit without 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.119 ever having to threaten. They were never threatening to move 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:31.600 to San Antonio. It's just like we'll just. 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.359 Ext whoever is going to the games previously. 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.400 Right, you still get to play the states against each other. 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:43.679 And this has been a problem for border cities. This 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:49.040 is a bigger problem when it comes to business taxes 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.159 and municipal funding. And again, this is the part that 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.200 could be boring, but I'm gonna give a very simplistic 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:58.879 story of what's happened in my hometown. Because it's on 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:04.720 a state line, you'll have a business, not a sports team, 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:11.520 a business that is based in Kansas, and then politicians 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.600 in Missouri because they want to say we added jobs 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:20.280 to our community will give that business insane tax breaks 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:25.960 to move its headquarters fifteen minutes east over to Missouri, 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:31.280 and that business can then not pay the taxes it 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:35.119 was once paying. It has no impact whatsoever actually on 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:39.119 who has the jobs. You're not adding jobs to your community, 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.560 You're just stealing them off the books of Kansas to 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.920 Adam and Missouri, or Missouri to Adam and Kansas, vice versa. 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:49.960 But it's the same human beings working there, and that has, 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:54.919 you know, been That's a problem for mayors and city 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.560 councils of border cities all the time, like how do 0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.440 we because it ends up being not a zero sum 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:05.639 game again, a zero sum for the overall community, but 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:09.360 a huge win for the a zero sum for the 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.720 employment of the overall community, while being a huge win 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.680 for the bottom line of corporations. But that's a sidebar. 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.439 Now to the football piece of it, because here is 0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.639 the tangible effect. The Chiefs are going to play in 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:24.760 a dome stadium starting in twenty thirty one. 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:29.040 Hey, that's awesome. I don't know how you feel about that. 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.120 That's awesome. I love the domes. 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:35.040 I hate so. 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:39.080 The snow games. That real effect of the weather. 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:50.040 Yeah, I like that passion, so the others. Here's the 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:59.040 so very short term, very selfish. I like the dome 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:02.640 for Patrick's late thirties. 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.960 Oh and then the new guy is gonna be playing 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:06.159 in the dome the whole time. 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:14.000 So if we are just talking about maximizing like Mahomes' career, 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:20.040 having the fact that his age thirty five and older 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:27.479 seasons will be in a dome is probably good. Yeah, Okay, 0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:36.840 that's probably good. That to me is not worth the 0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:48.560 trade off of football slowly but surely eliminating weather as 0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:55.399 a component, Like I think we are moving towards a 0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:02.280 reality of in a decade, there are are maybe three 0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:06.880 or four stadiums in the country where weather plays a part, 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.080 and I don't like that for football. I think football 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.160 is a game made to be played in the elements. 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:20.800 I don't mind domes in warm weather places because it 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:26.520 feels like that's actually like the elements aren't going to 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.679 be a big issue there anyway, and so it allows 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:29.760 you to host more events. 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:30.080 Fine. 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:34.640 And I don't mind the Dome in Minnesota only because 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.720 that specific place can get so Maybe it's just because 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.880 I'm used to it, but it can get so much 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:43.920 snow that they have like cancel games, but I guess Buffalo. 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.919 So it's probably just because I'm used to it. But 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:53.520 I don't like football removing the elements and the idea 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:58.399 that because they build this stadium, Kansas City is going 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:02.520 to get a bunch of super Bowls. It's just not true. 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:07.960 I think they will probably get one, and people will 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.520 complain about the super Bowl being in Kansas City, and 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.040 you know what, they should because the super Bowl should 0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:19.000 not be in Kansas City. Super Bowls shouldn't. I'm from there. 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.320 I love it. Super Bowl should not have ever been 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.600 in Minneapolis, it shouldn't have ever been in Indianapolis. It 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.040 shouldn't be in Kansas City. 0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:27.879 The super Bowl sho, what does it need to be 0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.000 in New Orleans? Or wait, what happened? 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:36.560 New Orleans? Miami, Vegas, LA? That's where the super Bowl elitist? Okay, 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:42.520 no cities, it's yeah, I guess. I mean New Orleans 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:48.600 isn't a big market. It's just awesome and the and 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:53.159 so I think we have seen cities that can do it. 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.840 And I'd be honestly okay with LA not being included. 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.439