Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving the Great Episode four oh seven.
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Speaker 2: Good to see you. Good to see you.
Speaker 1: So I have a very funny story that I will
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Speaker 1: had to borrow money this weekend to gamble with from demons.
Speaker 1: That happened, and so and it was as just the
Speaker 1: way it should have gone. It was so close to
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Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: How many stories have started like that? I was, I
Speaker 1: was right there, But such is life. So that story
Speaker 1: coming later in today's show. Right now, we will get
Speaker 1: to straight to voicemail, brought to you by our friends
Speaker 1: at boost Mobile. Draymond Green ejected himself after an argument
Speaker 1: with Steve Kerr. The the juice is still worth the
Speaker 1: squeeze with Draymond, but man, oh man, there's a lot
Speaker 1: less juice and the squeezings getting a lot tougher, and
Speaker 1: that you can kind of see how that could end.
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua knocks out Jake Paul and I'll be totally
Speaker 1: honest here. That was we talked about that more? Did
Speaker 1: we talk about that at all?
Speaker 2: We did on Thursday? We did?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, about the gambling opportunities from that, and that
Speaker 1: one came through. Now the knockout rounds one through three
Speaker 1: did not at minus one thirty, but the knockout overall
Speaker 1: at minus three seventy did. And two thoughts on that quickly.
Speaker 1: One is I I was nervous watching that because I
Speaker 1: bet Joshua for knockout or TKO like, but I would
Speaker 1: not so I would not have won the bet if
Speaker 1: it went to the cards, which I did not think
Speaker 1: it was going to. First few rounds obviously Jake's running around.
Speaker 1: I didn't love that, but I felt like but I
Speaker 1: also would not have won the bet if Jake got
Speaker 1: deq and I was worried with him, like consistently like
Speaker 1: wrestling and falling, that they might deque him. But Joshua
Speaker 1: called him with a clean right broke his jaw in
Speaker 1: multiple places. And now I have to listen to people
Speaker 1: telling me, you know how tough Jake Paul is. Listen.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't doubt that he's tough. Doesn't change
Speaker 1: the fact that he is a clown and the tongue
Speaker 1: wagging and the whole he put himself in that position
Speaker 1: to get his jaw broken, got his jaw broken, and
Speaker 1: people were like, Wow, you can't question that guy. I
Speaker 1: question that guy plenty. I'm glad for Anthony Joshua and
Speaker 1: then DK metcalf so he's been suspended for two games.
Speaker 1: That's gonna cost him more than half a million dollars
Speaker 1: in salary. It might cost the Steelers. Now, the Steelers
Speaker 1: if they win against the Bronco I'm sorry again with
Speaker 1: the Broncos against the Browns. They the Steelers have three
Speaker 1: ways to make the playoffs. Way number one, they beat
Speaker 1: the Browns, they're in way number two. The Ravens lose
Speaker 1: to the Packers, then the Steelers are in way. Number
Speaker 1: three is Steelers beat the Ravens in Week eighteen. But
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf obviously won't be playing in those games, so
Speaker 1: that hurts them a bit. I still think they'll be
Speaker 1: able to beat the Browns. I don't think it'll be
Speaker 1: a problem. So I just want to spend a moment
Speaker 1: here talking about what DK Metcalf did so and reminder
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Speaker 1: you know, demanse my general feeling on a few of
Speaker 1: these topics. What is this? There is almost no one
Speaker 1: more embarrassing to be around or be associated with than
Speaker 1: the full grown, post college age adult that goes to
Speaker 1: games to nastily taunt pro athletes. I don't like that
Speaker 1: guy in any way, shape or form. I think that
Speaker 1: is embarrassing behavior. I think it is shocking. Listen. I
Speaker 1: think booing is fine. I think making noise, I think
Speaker 1: the ACA visional well timed, wise crack. If it's actually
Speaker 1: funny and witty, I think there is a room for
Speaker 1: that in sports. But the thirty something year old, and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's what this guy was, but
Speaker 1: just in generically, the thirty something year old or old
Speaker 1: or drunk idiot that is just being obnoxious and making
Speaker 1: it uncomfortable for those around him. I don't like that person.
Speaker 1: I also have a controversial belief, which is society as
Speaker 1: a whole is better if people have a somewhat healthy
Speaker 1: fear eh, Mike get punched in the face. I think that,
Speaker 1: like there is the furthest logical conclusion of this is
Speaker 1: I find no one more abhorrent or a certain a
Speaker 1: porrent might be the wrong word obnoxious, then the streamer
Speaker 1: idiot kids that walk around malls and stuff, Yeah, pulling pranks,
Speaker 1: messing with people with their own security because they know
Speaker 1: I can't get punched in the face. And I do
Speaker 1: think that there is a healthy self policing that can
Speaker 1: be done of if folks know, hey, yeah, maybe I'll
Speaker 1: be able to press charges. Maybe I you know, maybe
Speaker 1: it's gonna ruin the other person's next few months. But
Speaker 1: if I act in a certain manner, I might get
Speaker 1: punched in the face, nut shot, not stabbed, not kicked
Speaker 1: in the head while I'm on the ground, but a
Speaker 1: quick little jab. If everybody knows that that's on the board,
Speaker 1: I think people will conduct themselves with more grace and courtesy.
Speaker 1: And we've lost that a little bit, just a little bit.
Speaker 1: We've become a little too I would say, liberal with
Speaker 1: words that are being allowed, while a little too conservative
Speaker 1: with punches that are allowed. Just my personal that's not
Speaker 1: and I don't mean that in a political sense. I
Speaker 1: mean they the I think that old sticks and stones
Speaker 1: will break my bones, but words will never harm me.
Speaker 1: Nursery rhyme did a little damage to a generation guy,
Speaker 1: and so uh and so I do think they're say
Speaker 1: it again, you know, yeah, run away correct. I do
Speaker 1: think there was a At times certain things you deserve
Speaker 1: to get punched like I.
Speaker 2: And have the facts come out about what was said.
Speaker 3: Like DK was saying that he might have called him
Speaker 3: something that you never call a black man. He was
Speaker 3: saying that he just called DK by his original name
Speaker 3: and is and like his original name.
Speaker 2: So I think that that I.
Speaker 1: Have seen with audio sound like the guy with the
Speaker 1: blue wig is telling the truth. Yeah, that he didn't
Speaker 1: say anything about his wife, his mother. He didn't say
Speaker 1: a slur.
Speaker 3: I think that's also a problem on dkse on DK
Speaker 3: side because I understand like the fans shouldn't be there heckling,
Speaker 3: but you also shouldn't put that on the fan that
Speaker 3: he said that just because you want to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a whole nother thing, which is the if
Speaker 1: you tell me, and I don't you know, the if
Speaker 1: you tell me no matter what race, creed, ethnicity, religion,
Speaker 1: you are, somebody weaponizes that against you in the form
Speaker 1: of a slur. That definitely checks the box for me
Speaker 1: of you're allowed to punch that person. You're not. Again,
Speaker 1: like I said, you can't shoot them, can't stab them,
Speaker 1: can't if they're unconscious, kick him in the head. But
Speaker 1: one quick punch to the face. They deserve it, and
Speaker 1: I don't think a jury of your peers is going
Speaker 1: to hold you accountable, just like you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell my story. So I now the flip side
Speaker 1: to that coin is claiming that happened when it didn't
Speaker 1: happen is an extra type of dirty and that that
Speaker 1: is from the same branch of something you've heard me
Speaker 1: say before, which is folks inability to take an l
Speaker 1: these days, or folks inability to be like I screwed
Speaker 1: up like that. So again I am I want to
Speaker 1: be very careful here because I also have not heard
Speaker 1: DK say that's what the guy said. I think it
Speaker 1: was o Cho Sinko reported that DK told him, So
Speaker 1: I don't again, I have I don't know. I definitely
Speaker 1: don't know what was said definitively. I just know what
Speaker 1: the audio shows and the video shows seems to back
Speaker 1: up Blue Wig guy.
Speaker 2: Guy wouldn't have walked up, I feel, And I.
Speaker 1: Also feel like I also feel like there is again
Speaker 1: you can sometimes tell what was said by the reaction
Speaker 1: of folks around and the it and so I.
Speaker 2: Feel like, oh my gosh, like, yeah.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like that. Again, I'm so I the
Speaker 1: I would not. I don't have enough evidence yet to
Speaker 1: make my own full mental ruling, but I know which
Speaker 1: way I'm leaning. Okay, So now that I've laid all
Speaker 1: this out there, I want to I want to make
Speaker 1: this point, which is, of course DK Metcalf got suspended
Speaker 1: two games the NFL. There are very few black in
Speaker 1: white lines that the NFL in particular has to maintain,
Speaker 1: and one of them is you can't hit the customers.
Speaker 1: And I feel more strongly about that, honestly, in the
Speaker 1: NFL than the NBA, even though the NBA they're on
Speaker 1: top of the court. Because this is I think you
Speaker 1: have to get in such a different mind frame to
Speaker 1: play pro football. It's while you're on the field. I
Speaker 1: think you have to like Cyche that that it needs
Speaker 1: to be really really instilled that you can't take that
Speaker 1: into the stands because I think it can.
Speaker 2: Go massive dude.
Speaker 1: It's a massive dude who's in like a in that moment,
Speaker 1: like for your mentality, like you know, the We've seen
Speaker 1: plenty of these guys who in their day to day
Speaker 1: life are just like soft spoken, quiet, you know, peaceful people,
Speaker 1: but they have to get into it. So I just
Speaker 1: think the size plus the mindset, all of that, it
Speaker 1: becomes really like legitimately dangerous, not fake dangerous, legitimately dangerous.
Speaker 1: And so I I as soon as it happened, I
Speaker 1: texted Bruin Wilde. I was like, he's going to be
Speaker 1: suspended a minimum of the game, maybe multiple now maybe,
Speaker 1: And I know it voids as guarantees. I actually don't
Speaker 1: think that matters that much because he's still a really
Speaker 1: good player. You only don't want your guarantee, like the
Speaker 1: Steelers want to keep paying him. So that's not going
Speaker 1: to probably be a problem now next year, if he's
Speaker 1: terrible or if he suffers a terrible injury, then those
Speaker 1: voided guarantees could matter. But that's my general take on
Speaker 1: the DK Metcalf situation. Now we have and even more
Speaker 1: nuanced conversation to be had about my hometown Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs and where they're going geographically, and some of this
Speaker 1: is going to be boring some of them, and you
Speaker 1: know what I shouldn't say is going to be boring.
Speaker 1: Some of this is going to be just real geography,
Speaker 1: and some of it's going to be real politics. And
Speaker 1: some of this is going to be municipal spending. But
Speaker 1: I'll make it all good, So go ahead.
Speaker 2: The season for hell becomes more hilatious.
Speaker 3: You guys lost Patrick, You guys lost your backup quarterback
Speaker 3: in Garda.
Speaker 2: Minshew, and you lost the Titans.
Speaker 3: And it seems like Kansas City Chiefs are no longer
Speaker 3: going to be in Kansas City. They might be moving
Speaker 3: over to Kansas in twenty thirty. How do you feel
Speaker 3: about this development?
Speaker 1: All right, first, let me explain to people what it means.
Speaker 1: Kansas City Kansas City for all intents and purposes. When
Speaker 1: people hear about Kansas City, they're talking about the Missouri side.
Speaker 1: It is where I'm from, so weird kind of border
Speaker 1: rivalry Missouri or Kansas. But I grew up one block
Speaker 1: off State Line Road. That is exactly what it sounds
Speaker 1: like the line between Missouri and Kansas. Now, confusingly and oddly,
Speaker 1: the Missouri side of State Line Road is Kansas City.
Speaker 1: The Kansas side of State Line Road is not Kansas City, Kansas.
Speaker 1: That's a different part. Like there is a small part
Speaker 1: of Kansasity, Kansas that touches State Line Road, but most
Speaker 1: of it that touches State Line Road is like uh
Speaker 1: Leewood or Oleitha or different municipalities. Okay, you guys don't
Speaker 1: care about that. What you do what does matter is this,
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are moving about twenty minutes west of where
Speaker 1: they currently play. So this has no impact on them
Speaker 1: being the Kansas City Chiefs because they were in Kansas
Speaker 1: City proper. Yes, but they are still in the greater
Speaker 1: Kansas City area, just like the same San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers play in Santa Clara. The New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: which people consider Boston's team, play in Foxborough. Like this
Speaker 1: is the Detroit Pistons used to play at the Palace
Speaker 1: at Auburn Hills. This happens. This is not a team
Speaker 1: moving the way teams move, like Baltimore going to Cleveland,
Speaker 1: that type of the Cleveland going to Baltimore. Either, That's
Speaker 1: not what this is at all. Now it does for
Speaker 1: me as a native Missouri and someone who's lived lived
Speaker 1: his whole life my dad, it's Kansasy, Missouri firefighter. I
Speaker 1: lived in on the Missouri side and whenever people say
Speaker 1: to me, oh, you're from Kansas, I correct them say no,
Speaker 1: I'm from Missouri. I hate that the Chiefs are leaving
Speaker 1: I don't hate that Missouri was not held hostage by
Speaker 1: pro sports owners. And this is where we get into
Speaker 1: a little bit of tricky stuff. And then we will
Speaker 1: talk about the football piece of it, because there is
Speaker 1: a real football piece of it. But this is so teams,
Speaker 1: because the state of Kansas, via star bonds and other stuff,
Speaker 1: is going to pay more money for this chief stadium
Speaker 1: than any local government, which means taxpayers have paid for
Speaker 1: any stadium in the history of America one point eight
Speaker 1: billion dollars. And I have always believed that the call
Speaker 1: it fifteen biggest cities in the country, all of the
Speaker 1: mayors slash governors of those states should have gotten together
Speaker 1: a long time ago and said, folks, we need to
Speaker 1: have an agreement amongst ourselves. We are not going to
Speaker 1: pay for pro those sports team stadiums because they want
Speaker 1: to be in our cities. So New York, LA, Dallas, Houston, Chicago,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, that your major markets pro sports teams want
Speaker 1: to be there. The idea that they are going to
Speaker 1: leave is a bluff. If you are a major, major market,
Speaker 1: so you should never pay. Never pay if you're in
Speaker 1: one of those markets. If you're in a smaller market.
Speaker 1: It does get trickier because we have seen teams leave
Speaker 1: smaller markets. And one can argue, and I have argued
Speaker 1: for a long time to use my hometown as a example,
Speaker 1: that the thing that distinct that makes Kansas City different
Speaker 1: from Des Moines, Iowa, or Omaha, Nebraska is that we
Speaker 1: have the chiefs and the royals. That's it. We're a
Speaker 1: two sport pro sport city and there is real economic
Speaker 1: and civic pride benefit to that. And Kansas City is
Speaker 1: not a huge market, so you can't just dare a
Speaker 1: team to leave the way LA could or New York
Speaker 1: could or Washington, d C. Could because they might leave.
Speaker 1: The Kansas City has lost teams before, and so I
Speaker 1: don't think it. While I understand the argument of there
Speaker 1: are better things to be putting paying taxpayer dollars for
Speaker 1: that is correct, I agree with that in general. I
Speaker 1: also understand why if you're Memphis, losing the Grizzlies as
Speaker 1: scary as shit, and it might be worth taxpayer dollars
Speaker 1: to make sure they stay. And so I think the
Speaker 1: math is not the same for mid market and small
Speaker 1: market teams as it is for major market teams. That's
Speaker 1: just my opinion. I think I have data to back
Speaker 1: that up, but it's my gut feeling on having grown
Speaker 1: up in one of those places and feeling like I'm
Speaker 1: from somewhere, and because we have pro sports teams and
Speaker 1: so this doesn't change that for Kansas Citians, they will
Speaker 1: still be the Kansas City Chiefs. Nobody half the country
Speaker 1: thought they played in Kansas already anyway, And I don't
Speaker 1: think I understand the gut reaction people have, and I'm
Speaker 1: with you politically on this, that it is shameful the
Speaker 1: public subsidies we will give billion dollar sports teams when
Speaker 1: I mean the city the state of Kansas has no
Speaker 1: public transportation none. Don't get mad at me, Governor Laura Kelly, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a few bus routes, but like there
Speaker 1: are there's there are things that money could be used
Speaker 1: for that probably would help a greater group of people.
Speaker 1: I get that, But I also do think that if
Speaker 1: you're in a city the size of one that a
Speaker 1: team might leave, losing that team can be devastating to
Speaker 1: the community. So I do think you have to weigh
Speaker 1: that the the problem for the cheap for that the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were able to play into specifically is because they're
Speaker 1: on a state line, they could play one state against
Speaker 1: the other and get basically demanse the benefit that you
Speaker 1: normally only get this type of I mean one point
Speaker 1: eight billion, it's the biggest public subsidy ever. You normally
Speaker 1: only get that something like that if you are threatening
Speaker 1: your fan base with we are moving, like we are
Speaker 1: going to the Seattle SuperSonics are going to become the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder. Because Kansas City that is on a
Speaker 1: state line, they were able to get the benefit without
Speaker 1: ever having to threaten. They were never threatening to move
Speaker 1: to San Antonio. It's just like we'll just.
Speaker 2: Ext whoever is going to the games previously.
Speaker 1: Right, you still get to play the states against each other.
Speaker 1: And this has been a problem for border cities. This
Speaker 1: is a bigger problem when it comes to business taxes
Speaker 1: and municipal funding. And again, this is the part that
Speaker 1: could be boring, but I'm gonna give a very simplistic
Speaker 1: story of what's happened in my hometown. Because it's on
Speaker 1: a state line, you'll have a business, not a sports team,
Speaker 1: a business that is based in Kansas, and then politicians
Speaker 1: in Missouri because they want to say we added jobs
Speaker 1: to our community will give that business insane tax breaks
Speaker 1: to move its headquarters fifteen minutes east over to Missouri,
Speaker 1: and that business can then not pay the taxes it
Speaker 1: was once paying. It has no impact whatsoever actually on
Speaker 1: who has the jobs. You're not adding jobs to your community,
Speaker 1: You're just stealing them off the books of Kansas to
Speaker 1: Adam and Missouri, or Missouri to Adam and Kansas, vice versa.
Speaker 1: But it's the same human beings working there, and that has,
Speaker 1: you know, been That's a problem for mayors and city
Speaker 1: councils of border cities all the time, like how do
Speaker 1: we because it ends up being not a zero sum
Speaker 1: game again, a zero sum for the overall community, but
Speaker 1: a huge win for the a zero sum for the
Speaker 1: employment of the overall community, while being a huge win
Speaker 1: for the bottom line of corporations. But that's a sidebar.
Speaker 1: Now to the football piece of it, because here is
Speaker 1: the tangible effect. The Chiefs are going to play in
Speaker 1: a dome stadium starting in twenty thirty one.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's awesome. I don't know how you feel about that.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I love the domes.
Speaker 1: I hate so.
Speaker 2: The snow games. That real effect of the weather.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that passion, so the others. Here's the
Speaker 1: so very short term, very selfish. I like the dome
Speaker 1: for Patrick's late thirties.
Speaker 3: Oh and then the new guy is gonna be playing
Speaker 3: in the dome the whole time.
Speaker 1: So if we are just talking about maximizing like Mahomes' career,
Speaker 1: having the fact that his age thirty five and older
Speaker 1: seasons will be in a dome is probably good. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's probably good. That to me is not worth the
Speaker 1: trade off of football slowly but surely eliminating weather as
Speaker 1: a component, Like I think we are moving towards a
Speaker 1: reality of in a decade, there are are maybe three
Speaker 1: or four stadiums in the country where weather plays a part,
Speaker 1: and I don't like that for football. I think football
Speaker 1: is a game made to be played in the elements.
Speaker 1: I don't mind domes in warm weather places because it
Speaker 1: feels like that's actually like the elements aren't going to
Speaker 1: be a big issue there anyway, and so it allows
Speaker 1: you to host more events.
Speaker 2: Fine.
Speaker 1: And I don't mind the Dome in Minnesota only because
Speaker 1: that specific place can get so Maybe it's just because
Speaker 1: I'm used to it, but it can get so much
Speaker 1: snow that they have like cancel games, but I guess Buffalo.
Speaker 1: So it's probably just because I'm used to it. But
Speaker 1: I don't like football removing the elements and the idea
Speaker 1: that because they build this stadium, Kansas City is going
Speaker 1: to get a bunch of super Bowls. It's just not true.
Speaker 1: I think they will probably get one, and people will
Speaker 1: complain about the super Bowl being in Kansas City, and
Speaker 1: you know what, they should because the super Bowl should
Speaker 1: not be in Kansas City. Super Bowls shouldn't. I'm from there.
Speaker 1: I love it. Super Bowl should not have ever been
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, it shouldn't have ever been in Indianapolis. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't be in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: The super Bowl sho, what does it need to be
Speaker 2: in New Orleans? Or wait, what happened?
Speaker 1: New Orleans? Miami, Vegas, LA? That's where the super Bowl elitist? Okay,
Speaker 1: no cities, it's yeah, I guess. I mean New Orleans
Speaker 1: isn't a big market. It's just awesome and the and
Speaker 1: so I think we have seen cities that can do it.
Speaker 1: And I'd be honestly okay with LA not being included.
Speaker 1: I'd be fine with it just being Vegas Miami, New
Speaker 1: Orleans that being the rotation. You can make the argument
Speaker 1: for Phoenix, but I just think they're not the idea
Speaker 1: that Kansas City is because they add this is going
Speaker 1: to be a part of a Super Bowl rotation. That's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Now. It's not gonna be every ten
Speaker 1: years the biggest sporting event in the country, headquarters in
Speaker 1: wyan Dot County for in February. It's just not happening.
Speaker 1: But the big my biggest thing is on the field.
Speaker 1: I don't like I like that weather matters, and I
Speaker 1: like that the Buffalo and Kansas City and Baltimore and
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and New England have to be able to play
Speaker 1: in multiple settings. And I just I so yes, I
Speaker 1: think it'll be good for Pat the end of you know,
Speaker 1: the last quarter of Patrick's career. But it's to me
Speaker 1: a bit of a bummer. And the other bomber is this,
Speaker 1: You're gonna go from eighty thousand seats to about sixty
Speaker 1: eight thousand, and I'm going to be very interested and
Speaker 1: I really hope that they that they find a way
Speaker 1: because I think the tailgating will be great no matter
Speaker 1: what one thing. Clark KHNT said yesterday. That's true. Is
Speaker 1: parking lots don't tailgate people do, That's correct. I think
Speaker 1: the tailgating pregame stuff. I trust they will make sure
Speaker 1: that stays sacrisanct, because, like, if there's ever a reason
Speaker 1: to go to an NFL game, going to Arrowhead to
Speaker 1: tailgate before the game is one of the greatest things
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And I think that will stay. But
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to be able like and
Speaker 1: but the other thing Clark said is seats and concrete
Speaker 1: don't make noise. Fans do. That is true, but certain
Speaker 1: stadiums are more we're conducive for noise than others. And
Speaker 1: Arrowhead has been the loudest open air stadium in the
Speaker 1: country forever. And I just hope they are able to
Speaker 1: recreate that.
Speaker 2: Is it. Is it going to have a new name, Well.
Speaker 1: I would imagine they'll still call it Arrowhead. They've already
Speaker 1: kind of sold on that because it's technically Geha Field
Speaker 1: at Arrowhead. And I've never totally understood naming right sponsorships, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that anyone has paid more attention to
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. I really don't know that anyone
Speaker 1: in the world has paid more attention to the Kansity
Speaker 1: chiefs than me certainly, uh since because the stadiums don't
Speaker 1: even named that for like five years of the field
Speaker 1: in that time prayer and I still don't. But I
Speaker 1: still don't know what GHA is. Yeah, if you were
Speaker 1: like this, I have no idea. I have no clue
Speaker 1: what the I I don't know. Do they sell insurance?
Speaker 1: Is it? Are they? I have a colt. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. So it's it's always arrowhead to me.
Speaker 1: But that's the the positive and the negative. That's what
Speaker 1: it is. Now. Will Kn't City get a Final four? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Like will they're like having a domed stadium? There is
Speaker 1: there are benefits for it.
Speaker 2: The h A is Government Employees Health Association.
Speaker 1: Still don't know what it means. Does that mean they
Speaker 1: they they? Does that mean they compete with the company
Speaker 1: that Gronk advertises for So it is they're the competitors
Speaker 1: of Gronk's company. What's that? What's the Gronk insurance company?
Speaker 1: Where he's like, I wasn't in the military. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so EH and U SAA are competitors, all right, good
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 3: Do you think there's I'm sorry, just cut you off.
Speaker 3: Do you think there's gonna be any teams that hold
Speaker 3: out on this open air stadium closed team? Like could
Speaker 3: you see Green Baby? And like the last team with
Speaker 3: an open open stadium in thirty.
Speaker 1: Years Buffalo's building a new stadium and Buffalo's new stadium
Speaker 1: doesn't have a roof, right, fact check me on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's good for something then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and butfo yeah, and it's Buffalo. But I
Speaker 1: I don't know. The Chiefs playing in a dome feels
Speaker 1: weird to me. I'm sure I get used to it.
Speaker 1: And if Old Mahomes is just lighting people up, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll be fine with it.
Speaker 3: But maybe because I'm a not a savant and like
Speaker 3: a football historian, I just don't see why you would
Speaker 3: want like and this is like I hear a lot
Speaker 3: of people that's their take. They want there to be snow,
Speaker 3: the incluent weather. Why would you not just want them
Speaker 3: to perform to their best ability like any other sport,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like there's no sport.
Speaker 1: It's because that's so That's where that's where I disagree
Speaker 1: with you, know what you're saying a lot of people
Speaker 1: feel that way. It just it just depends on how
Speaker 1: you look at it. I look at being great at
Speaker 1: football intrinsically, meaning that you can have different types of
Speaker 1: game plans and different abilities in different weather. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I think that is part of building a team. I
Speaker 1: think part of building a team is teaching them how
Speaker 1: to exploit different weather conditions. I think that is as
Speaker 1: intrinsic to the game as kick returning, Like that's part
Speaker 1: of it. And I think removing it people a lot
Speaker 1: of people feel like, oh, you were move it, and
Speaker 1: that then makes it more pure. I feel like it
Speaker 1: makes it less pure. And I I understand in basketball
Speaker 1: that doesn't exist. Everything the same, all of it.
Speaker 3: Like soccer, like I mean, I don't know if they
Speaker 3: played definitely they play soccer in the snow or like
Speaker 3: light snow.
Speaker 2: They obviously can like heavy rain.
Speaker 1: That's fair, but the soccer is an outdoor sport and
Speaker 1: being able to handle heat is a bigger thing in soccer.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, the yeah, yeah, I guess I'm always
Speaker 3: looking for the light show I'm seeing these games.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 1: That's the way the NFL is moving that. It just
Speaker 1: bums me out. I mean, but again, I'm a grand
Speaker 1: poll now.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry to those historians that stuff has changed.
Speaker 1: No, it's fine. Just so many of the like the
Speaker 1: great moments in NFL history are playoff games in the
Speaker 1: elements and and that'll be a bummer for me, But
Speaker 1: you know nothing to cry about. I just I don't
Speaker 1: love it. That to me matters a lot more than
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Speaker 1: get to Sunday Night football. In some of the other.
Speaker 3: Games, Ravens hanging by a thread. Drake May was looking
Speaker 3: poor in the first half. Rallied Lamar Jackson came out
Speaker 3: of the game with I think like a rib injury.
Speaker 2: We lost the game. Now we have a seven percent
Speaker 2: chance of making the playoffs. Yeah yeah, how ye? Who
Speaker 2: do you think this is big wrong? The Ravens or Patriots?
Speaker 1: I think, well, listen, I think it's a Let me
Speaker 1: start with the Patriots. And what was I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember because there was a clip from last week's show.
Speaker 1: Was it about Lamar? What was the clip? Maybe the
Speaker 1: producers saw it as well. There is a clip of
Speaker 1: I did some take that I don't even know if
Speaker 1: demanse agreed with, but it was massively aggregated, and it
Speaker 1: was aggregated with the monsee and I split screen. And
Speaker 1: I always find this funny because I wasn't do you
Speaker 1: guys remember what I'm talking about? Was it my last
Speaker 1: week from it was from Thursday show. I can't even
Speaker 1: remember what we talked about on Thursday.
Speaker 3: But regardless, Lamar's health, niquill and sickness and stuff, but
Speaker 3: it was something else other than that.
Speaker 2: Probably That's why.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. What are If I had our
Speaker 1: rundown from last week in front of me, I could
Speaker 1: I could think of it. I'm trying to think if
Speaker 1: it's Lamar because the reason I thought of that is
Speaker 1: it might happen again this week, but uh the let's
Speaker 1: start with the Patriots. I think that was a growing
Speaker 1: up moment for Drake Drake. I think that Drake was
Speaker 1: playing one of his worst games of the year and
Speaker 1: for him to rally the way he did and make
Speaker 1: the I mean, he obviously had the one great deep
Speaker 1: pass that was robbed from him on the miss DPI,
Speaker 1: but didn't matter. He had already the touchdown pass he
Speaker 1: threw to the front corner of the end zone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. I thought that was great, and I I
Speaker 1: think that on top of that, Uhle's hold on. I
Speaker 1: think Paul just texted to me, Oh, this is what
Speaker 1: it was. Sorry, it was the thank you, Paul. It
Speaker 1: was the whimby stuff. It was me saying I don't
Speaker 1: need to be lectured by the old French kid. That
Speaker 1: the people got super mad at that take and you're
Speaker 1: just sitting there like listening. It's just super funny. Thank you, Paul.
Speaker 1: The no the people got mad at I think my
Speaker 1: Lamar h takes from TV. But sorry, I'm interrupting myself.
Speaker 1: I thought the Drake may touchdown pass was unild The
Speaker 1: bomb was unbelievable. The fourth and two play which kept
Speaker 1: him alive to go win the game. It was just
Speaker 1: past the sideline, but it was an absolute laser that
Speaker 1: I thought was gonna be knocked down. He was excellent.
Speaker 1: And Drake May's the real deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the real hand.
Speaker 1: And uh, the Patriots they had to win that game
Speaker 1: because while I thought sometimes the schedule stuff got a
Speaker 1: little overblown, if they had played that soft schedule and
Speaker 1: then lost to Buffalo and Baltimore, it'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: They're they're a really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're Oh, they're ahead of schedule. They're better than
Speaker 1: all the JV teams, but they're not an A lister,
Speaker 1: And I think they proved they're A listers. And so
Speaker 1: I think that is that's the Patriots piece of it.
Speaker 1: And they've got.
Speaker 2: They got their quarterback. The guy looks like. I think
Speaker 2: that guy's gonna be in the league for a really
Speaker 2: really long time. Yeah, yeah, I solid, man.
Speaker 1: I think he is just going to be a top
Speaker 1: five quarterback. Yeah. Forward, he's legit. He is, without a
Speaker 1: doubt legit. And then you get to the Ravens and
Speaker 1: there's a lot here. They blew another big lead. Everyone's
Speaker 1: blaming hardball. They didn't give the ball to they didn't
Speaker 1: have Derrick Henry on the field for their last two possessions.
Speaker 1: People are understandably blaming hardball. Another can I call it
Speaker 1: without people freaking out? Weird injury thing with Lamar I do.
Speaker 3: I do feel strongly that he could have came back
Speaker 3: in the game. Watching the like and it's and it's
Speaker 3: a rivengery. I do think he could have come back
Speaker 3: in that game. And I don't like doing that or
Speaker 3: like being like so I don't know what the guy
Speaker 3: was feeling, but I don't know, like he was moving around,
Speaker 3: he's like on the side, like like I've had a
Speaker 3: ribbery before.
Speaker 2: And I just I don't know. I felt like he
Speaker 2: could have kept played, especially in that situation. We have
Speaker 2: the game. We just need you to manage.
Speaker 1: But I so listen, I hate that you're the one
Speaker 1: that said that instead of me, because and I want
Speaker 1: this if this gets aggregated, people to understand he could
Speaker 1: Its just Demonte's favorite team and the guy he's ridden
Speaker 1: with more than anybody. Yeah, but I was shocked he
Speaker 1: didn't go back in and when he didn't go back in.
Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that, I was not shocked he didn't
Speaker 1: go back in. We didn't go back in. I assumed
Speaker 1: we were going to get the news yesterday that he
Speaker 1: broke his ribs, that he had cracked ribs, that even
Speaker 1: though the hit didn't the need didn't look that bad.
Speaker 1: But you never know, you know how that is. And
Speaker 1: so I just assumed, like, oh man, there's he, like
Speaker 1: he's he probably isn't gonna play this coming week, and
Speaker 1: that's it's a rap. And when Harbaugh came out yesterday
Speaker 1: and said it's just a bad contusion and he's day
Speaker 1: to day, I was stunned. Now again, it's weird because
Speaker 1: Lamar is obviously tough, and obviously he's played cares so
Speaker 1: I so that's why I'm saying, it's just another weird
Speaker 1: injury thing with Lamar, where now he has suffered a
Speaker 1: hamstring injury that nobody saw when it happened, but obviously
Speaker 1: was a real one, like a not real as opposed
Speaker 1: to real versus fake. I should have said a significant
Speaker 1: one to where he missed multiple games, including a game
Speaker 1: after a buye that his coach thought he would be
Speaker 1: back for and then had knee ankle toe injuries that
Speaker 1: made him miss practice but not miss any games, but
Speaker 1: he then wasn't effective in the games. Then his you know,
Speaker 1: annual December cold had to miss practice, and now what
Speaker 1: looked like a relatively banal play knocked him out for
Speaker 1: the most critical half of their season, basically playing an
Speaker 1: elimination game. It's just weird. And I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be like cag with my analysis here. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to hint at anything, but I'm also not going to
Speaker 1: act like it's not weird. And it's very very hard
Speaker 1: not to go to the other quarterbacks in Lamar's tax
Speaker 1: bracket and echelon, and I'd ask yourself, do we think
Speaker 1: they would have an injury that the next day their
Speaker 1: coach calls day to day and expects them to play
Speaker 1: the next week, that we wouldn't have seen them back
Speaker 1: on the field at least trying seeing giving it a
Speaker 1: go and then maybe Okay, this isn't gonna work. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like you would have, and so
Speaker 1: it's just odd.
Speaker 2: And I go about Baltimore. See so with the situation, Harball,
Speaker 2: whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Let me tweak that there you go, I don't because
Speaker 1: I said this a few weeks ago. I don't think
Speaker 1: he wants out. I think he might be over Harball
Speaker 1: and that this has run its course, and that Lamar
Speaker 1: is resigned to the fact that this is a lost season,
Speaker 1: and it is a lost season, and this was the
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I said yesterday on TV that I
Speaker 1: think people maybe took issue with. But again, we won't
Speaker 1: know for five years, but I'll I think this will
Speaker 1: age well. I am not saying Lamar will never make
Speaker 1: or win a super Bowl. What I am saying is
Speaker 1: I think when his career is over, we will look
Speaker 1: at the best chances he had were these past three years.
Speaker 1: They were the solitary super Bowl favorite at multiple points
Speaker 1: in each of the last three seasons. They were the
Speaker 1: super Bowl preseason favorite this year. And to come out
Speaker 1: of these three years with two total playoff victories, come
Speaker 1: out of the twenty twenties so far twenty one, twenty two,
Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four to twenty five with two total
Speaker 1: playoff victories is stunning. And now I think you start
Speaker 1: a new era with a new head coach Demons. Before
Speaker 1: we move on to side of it, I want to
Speaker 1: give you some news. Zay Flowers name to the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl this morning. Now go ahead, I know you have
Speaker 1: a potential Zay Flowers take.
Speaker 3: Just run straight, man, please just run straight, and just
Speaker 3: be a little bit tighter with the football. I just
Speaker 3: think that there there have been a couple of big
Speaker 3: situations and the biggest point of the season, and I
Speaker 3: think the guy is loose with the football. He's trying
Speaker 3: to play like backyard football or something, making these cuts backwards.
Speaker 3: And that's not like the only time that I've seen
Speaker 3: him do that, but just in the bigger instances, it's like, dude,
Speaker 3: just just be tirer with the football. Don't try to
Speaker 3: get it all one play, go down or something. It's
Speaker 3: just kind of frustrated.
Speaker 1: And he has said he was gonna do that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he has not done that.
Speaker 2: He's loose. It's just loose.
Speaker 1: And it's the end. He doesn't fumble a lot, but
Speaker 1: you remember the fumbles. Yeah, you're youber. There are big moments,
Speaker 1: all right. This also got you know, there's extra bad
Speaker 1: for Baltimore because of Pittsburgh's green in the day. I
Speaker 1: know you have a question about that.
Speaker 2: What'd you think of the end of that game Pittsburgh Detroit.
Speaker 2: So I.
Speaker 1: Thought a couple of things. One is this, you're the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions with Dan the man Campbell. You're biting knee caps.
Speaker 1: You have first and goal from the one with twenty
Speaker 1: two seconds in a timeout. Run the ball, run the ball.
Speaker 1: The you ran a little fancy little pick play. You
Speaker 1: got OPI like you're supposed to be this big, strong, tough,
Speaker 1: smack smouth.
Speaker 2: Get it.
Speaker 1: You're the one yard line. So that's first point. That
Speaker 1: was on the first OPI. The second OPI, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I love that OPI call. I also don't
Speaker 1: think that should have mattered because a Monros Saint Brown,
Speaker 1: by any definition ever, was short of the end zone
Speaker 1: on fourth down. And here's the critical piece. Had his
Speaker 1: momentum stopped, his forward ruggers was stopped. Now, they didn't
Speaker 1: blow it dead, but that was asinine. Had there not
Speaker 1: been a called OPI and that a Monro Saint Brown
Speaker 1: lateral which happened three seconds and five yards after he
Speaker 1: was first hit when he was pushed backwards, had they
Speaker 1: not said that play was blown dead, that would have
Speaker 1: been an outrage because the reason, you know is forward
Speaker 1: momentum was stopped and everyone thought the play was over.
Speaker 1: Was the other Steelers could have gone up and hit
Speaker 1: him as well. There were two pushing him, but they
Speaker 1: didn't because they knew obviously that play was supposed to
Speaker 1: be over. So I didn't think Detroit got screwed. I
Speaker 1: do think Pittsburgh, where I have to give him credit
Speaker 1: to Monse is they're playing their best ball. Rogers is
Speaker 1: playing his best ball. You And here is the important
Speaker 1: thing for Pittsburgh. If you beat the Browns, your old
Speaker 1: ass team, with your old ass quarterback, you can give
Speaker 1: yourselves a bye week that's super valuable. Because you beat
Speaker 1: the Browns and Week eighteen is truly wholly and entirely
Speaker 1: meaningless for you. You will have locked up the four seed.
Speaker 1: You will not be able to improve your seed, and
Speaker 1: you can just rest Rogers, rest whomever else DK is
Speaker 1: gonna be resting either way, and you'll be at home
Speaker 1: for two weeks leading into the playoffs, which is a
Speaker 1: home game. So Steelers beat the Browns, and they all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, depending on who they draw, are live now.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're live against Buffalo, but Buffalo's not
Speaker 1: guaranteed to be the five seed. And so that's a
Speaker 1: great weekend for Pittsburgh. All right, let's go on to
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Speaker 1: other games.
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams and the Comeback over Green Bay. I saw
Speaker 2: some beautiful stuff from this car over the weekend.
Speaker 3: Jordan Love got knocked out of the game, but I
Speaker 3: think a concussion didn't matter though, because Willis came in
Speaker 3: and he was cooking too, so I think there is
Speaker 3: still a solid win. Cook the on side kick in overtime,
Speaker 3: some dots into the end zone. How what should Bears
Speaker 3: fans expectations be at this point of the season.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, that was an unbelievable win. And post on
Speaker 1: sidekick Caleb was unreal. The fourth down throw to say
Speaker 1: keep the game alive was perfect. The overtime touchdown pass
Speaker 1: was perfect. Now you do have to acknowledge all of
Speaker 1: Caleb's great moments happened after an onside kick, and that means,
Speaker 1: by definition, they were incredibly lucky that they had a
Speaker 1: chance for those to happen, Like onside kicks just you
Speaker 1: cover ten percent of them and so, but that's football
Speaker 1: like that the sometimes you need that little opening to
Speaker 1: redeem yourself. And now the Bears are locked into the
Speaker 1: playoffs feeling great and I think feeling like we can
Speaker 1: play better because Caleb's highs have been unbelievable, but he
Speaker 1: hasn't been consistent yet. That is like a fair critique,
Speaker 1: But the.
Speaker 2: That he hasn't been like really bad either though, Like
Speaker 2: I feel like he's gone right, that's right.
Speaker 1: I think that's a great way to put it. He is.
Speaker 1: He has had high highs and high lows, but he
Speaker 1: has not had enough. So and he just hasn't been
Speaker 1: consistent though, but you see it, and and if you're
Speaker 1: you mentioned Malik Willis, I want to say something about
Speaker 1: him and Matt Lafore. Malik Willis has been excellent as
Speaker 1: a backup for them. He might get a look somewhere
Speaker 1: next year because of this. And there is a real
Speaker 1: benefit to now having the track record that Matt Lafore
Speaker 1: built with Malik Willis, which is you should always have
Speaker 1: a good backup quarterback now because quarterbacks that are trying
Speaker 1: to rebuild their value will want to go to Green
Speaker 1: Bay and he clearly can coach these guys up. So
Speaker 1: that has like a real long term impact and effect.
Speaker 1: I'm checking right now. I think Malik Willis is a
Speaker 1: free agent after this year, yeah, because he was still
Speaker 1: on his rookie deal. So Malik Willis could be looking
Speaker 1: at like one of those one year, ten twelve million
Speaker 1: dollar deals from a team that stopgap situation. Could Could
Speaker 1: the Colts sign him while they're waiting on Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: to recover something like that, Like, I think that's on
Speaker 1: the board, So I think that is interesting. I also
Speaker 1: think that because of Detroit's loss, green Bay is going
Speaker 1: to be fine. But the injuries are just piling up
Speaker 1: on them, and they're not. Here's the scenario for the
Speaker 1: Lions to get in and the Packers to be out
Speaker 1: is very simple. The Packers have to lose out and
Speaker 1: the Lions have to win out. Now that's not outrageous
Speaker 1: when you say there's only two games left. It would
Speaker 1: mean the Packers have to lose to Baltimore and to Minnesota,
Speaker 1: two seven and eight disappointing teams. I know in our
Speaker 1: head one team's way better than the other, but they're not.
Speaker 1: So the Packers would have to lose to Baltimore and
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and the Lions would have to beat Minnesota
Speaker 1: and Chicago in the final week of the year. So
Speaker 1: Packers aren't in. But it would take a disaster, and
Speaker 1: that also means Lions are basically out. All right, Let's
Speaker 1: talk about my favorite game of the weekend, Demonsey.
Speaker 3: So you're and Trevor Lawrence went and hung thirty four
Speaker 3: on that top rated defense in Denver. Nobody's believed in
Speaker 3: this team except for you, through and through. Are you
Speaker 3: ready to take a victory lap or ere? The your
Speaker 3: sights higher for them in the postseason?
Speaker 1: Sites are higher? Man was playing out of his mind.
Speaker 1: Everten nobody good against that Denver defense. Nobody and Trevor
Speaker 1: carved him up. Yeah, and they now they have a sneak,
Speaker 1: not sneaky, but they have a path to the one seed.
Speaker 1: So let me tell you explain what it is. They
Speaker 1: they have to win out. Obviously, who do they play.
Speaker 1: They are in Indie, which just saw essentially their season
Speaker 1: end last night, and home for the Titans. Two and zero,
Speaker 1: no problem they So if they do that, we go
Speaker 1: to the old athletic playoff predictor they have. If they
Speaker 1: go to and zero, they have a thirty percent chance
Speaker 1: of the three seed, a fifty two percent chance of
Speaker 1: the two seed, and a eighteen percent chance of the
Speaker 1: one seed. So how do they get the one seed? Again,
Speaker 1: this part's pretty simple as well. The Broncos are going
Speaker 1: to beat the Chiefs, so we can't ask for the
Speaker 1: Broncos to beat the Chiefs to beat the Broncos. But
Speaker 1: if the Broncos then lose to the Chargers in Week eighteen,
Speaker 1: then what the Jags would need to be the one
Speaker 1: seed is the Patriots to lose. It's hard gonna lie
Speaker 1: either to the Jets or the Dolphins, and then that
Speaker 1: so what the what the Jags need is the Patriots
Speaker 1: and Broncos to lose at least once and they'll be
Speaker 1: the one seed. What I am more interested in is
Speaker 1: how do they get the two seed? They because I
Speaker 1: think that's more realistic. I think it's the same thing. Actually,
Speaker 1: they need the they for them to get the two seed,
Speaker 1: they need the Patriots to lose once. Uh wait, is
Speaker 1: that not right?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm confused here. Let me look the I might
Speaker 1: be confused on this one, because this says the more
Speaker 1: likely if the Patriots win. Oh, because they get that,
Speaker 1: they have the tiebreaker with New England and hold on,
Speaker 1: is this correct? I have to look this up real quick. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I care about the Jags. I'm the only person the
Speaker 1: they do have. They would have the tiebreaker with New England.
Speaker 1: But New England. I'm so confused by this right now,
Speaker 1: hold on, let me let me figure this out real quick.
Speaker 1: Oh hold on, you know what, this is bad podcasting.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing the regardless, they're in great shape and
Speaker 1: Trevor's playing great and Liam Cohen's been awesome. There's just
Speaker 1: no way around it.
Speaker 2: If they go on a deep playoff run, do you
Speaker 2: think it would ease the pain of your chief season
Speaker 2: this year? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Can you imagine? I gotta tell you, just like,
Speaker 1: right back up, how obnoxious I'm going to be if
Speaker 1: Trevor makes a Super Bowl before Lamar and Josh Come
Speaker 1: on god, yeah, oh my goodness, gracious, all right, let's
Speaker 1: talk Thursday night football quick.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that game Seahawks ended up pulling out, pulling
Speaker 3: out the comeback last night. Forty nine ers made sure
Speaker 3: we didn't forget about them, and they beat the crap
Speaker 3: out of the Colts. I gotta I gotta be honest.
Speaker 3: I turned that game.
Speaker 2: Off the Seahawks. Was it? Seahawks Rams?
Speaker 3: Donald threw the pike the sixteen the year it was
Speaker 3: like thirty fourteen, Yeah, thirty to fourteen, nine minutes of
Speaker 3: they came back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. How are we feeling about the NFC?
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think the Rams are the best team.
Speaker 1: But that's a devastating loss. And Donald was awesome in
Speaker 1: overtime and maybe that'll be a fork in the road
Speaker 1: moment for him. But every concern you had about Donald
Speaker 1: going into that game, he lived up to those concerns.
Speaker 1: For the first three and a half quarters. Seattle is
Speaker 1: such an excellent team. They were able to overcome it,
Speaker 1: and Rashid Shaheed's punt return was great, But I still
Speaker 1: think the Rams are the best team and the Niners.
Speaker 1: Credit to Shanahan, credit to Purty, who was great last night. Again,
Speaker 1: every the somehow we're gonna have another where I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be drawn into more Brock Party arguments, even though we
Speaker 1: saw Mac Jones step in for him and be a
Speaker 1: B plus version of him, which proved everything I always
Speaker 1: said about that offense and that team. But whatever, it's
Speaker 1: just my destiny to have to always to have to
Speaker 1: argue about the forty nine Ers quarterback be proven right
Speaker 1: through an odd real life NFL experiment, and then have
Speaker 1: folks pretend that it's just coincidence that everything I said
Speaker 1: would happen is exactly what happened. But Party was excellent.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Niners defense is good enough for
Speaker 1: a playoff run, but their offense is elite right now,
Speaker 1: so I would power rank it Ram, Seahawks, Niners. What
Speaker 1: is interesting, though, is the Seahawks and Niners are the
Speaker 1: teams that control their own destiny for a one seed
Speaker 1: and the Rams ability so if the because the Seahawks
Speaker 1: have two games left Bears Niners. If they win both,
Speaker 1: they get the one seed and the bye. The Niners
Speaker 1: have two games left. I'm sorry I said that wrong.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Niners two games left are Bears Seahawks.
Speaker 1: If they win both of those games, they get the
Speaker 1: one seed. They get the buye. The Seahawks have two
Speaker 1: games left Panthers Niners. If they win both those games,
Speaker 1: they get the one seed. They get the buye. For
Speaker 1: the Rams to get the one seed, they need a
Speaker 1: very specific set of things to happen. Obviously, they have
Speaker 1: to go to and zero. They play Falcons Cardinals, and
Speaker 1: then their smoothest path would be the Panthers beating the
Speaker 1: Seahawks and then the Seahawks beating the Bears, But then
Speaker 1: they also need the Bears, not to Seahawks beating the Niners.
Speaker 1: Is the last thing. I apologize. I'm explaining this poorly.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try again. For the Rams to be the
Speaker 1: one seed, they need to go to and zero and
Speaker 1: then their easiest path would be Panthers beat the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: Seahawks beat the Niners, and then either the Bears lose
Speaker 1: to the Lions or the Bears lose to the Niners,
Speaker 1: so they need somehow Essentially, the Rams do. The Bears, Seahawks,
Speaker 1: and forty nine Ers to all lose at least once,
Speaker 1: which is tricky because they play each other, and so
Speaker 1: the Rams' ability to get the one seed is quite slim.
Speaker 1: And I think that matters because again weather matters, they
Speaker 1: would be they would have been in so fi they'd
Speaker 1: had the rest. So I think they're the best team.
Speaker 1: But that loss is devastating to them, and I still
Speaker 1: can't believe they lost the game the way they did.
Speaker 1: All right, let me quickly go through these other games.
Speaker 1: Eagles beat the Commanders and Marcus mariotis slash, Josh Johnson,
Speaker 1: Saquon looks great, Jalen played really well. We'll see Eagles
Speaker 1: big test this weekend against Buffalo. Panthers beat the Bucks
Speaker 1: in a game I can't I'm not gonna explain all
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of it. The short version is this,
Speaker 1: given the way to Sunday football went, had Baker not
Speaker 1: thrown that interception, I would have taken the money that
Speaker 1: Demands had loaned me earlier in the day that I
Speaker 1: talked about earlier and spun it into forty one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: That is not an exaggeration, That is not a oh
Speaker 1: you needed all these things to happen. It's very simple.
Speaker 1: Had the Bucks won that game thanks to a very
Speaker 1: savvy bet I placed with our friends at hard Rock,
Speaker 1: I would have hit a nice little Christmas forty one
Speaker 1: thousand dollars bonus are you doing? Baker threw one of
Speaker 1: the worst picks.
Speaker 2: Of them, and he was like peaking her. He was
Speaker 2: peaking around his old lineman.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't talk about I can't talk Bill's
Speaker 1: beat the Browns twenty three to twenty in a game
Speaker 1: Josh Allen didn't have to do anything, which is crazy
Speaker 1: because all I hear about is how Josh Allen has
Speaker 1: no help. I don't know. Having the freaking rushing champ
Speaker 1: in James Cook seems like a little bit of help,
Speaker 1: but what do I know. There. Chargers beat the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in a game I got dead wrong. Justin Herbert played great.
Speaker 1: I think you know he was just named the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's Josh Allen. Drake made Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: shout out Herbert. Texans beat the Raiders in a game
Speaker 1: that nobody watched. But the Texans looked awful, and the
Speaker 1: Texans offense has been shaky all year long, all year.
Speaker 1: Bengals beat the Dolphins forty five twenty one. Quinn your
Speaker 1: is not really an NFL quarterback, and the Bengals ripped
Speaker 1: up the Dolphins defense. Vikings beat the Jets sixteen thirteen
Speaker 1: in the game. I didn't spend a second watching, but
Speaker 1: I saw Jackson dart through for thirty three yards and
Speaker 1: played the whole game. That seems weird. Saints, he played
Speaker 1: the whole game. Demanday. Saints beat the Jets twenty nine
Speaker 1: to six. Tyler Shutt continues to play well and Falcons
Speaker 1: beat the Cardinals twenty six to nineteen in a game
Speaker 1: that happened, but I have no proof of it. All right, Uh,
Speaker 1: thank you everybody. We're gonna step aside here. We have
Speaker 1: a week seventeen gambling show coming to you tomorrow. We
Speaker 1: will bring that to you guys tomorrow. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: the firing in these lines early in the week. See
Speaker 1: how we do. We'll do that tomorrow. Thank you to
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